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From YouTube: The Future of Fashion in Open Source
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Open source is not just about code. It's about fashion, too! Join Susan Spencer on May 12 at 1 pm ET on twitch.tv/github to learn how Seamly is transforming the fashion industry by empowering designers globally to create perfect-fit patterns.
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A
B
Hi
Rosie
I'm
Sid
Spencer.
My
background
is
as
a
senior
computer
scientist
at
a
contracted
with
NASA
and
other
agencies,
and
Healthcare
and
Private
Industry
I,
discovered
teamless
technology
and
created
a
prototype
by
spending
over
100,
making
how
to
make
and
I've
been
involved
in
open
source
for
about
nine
years.
My
background
is
in
political
science,
my
degree
political
science
from
a
women's
college,
so
I
decided
not
to
go
to
law.
School
I
just
wasn't
feeling
it.
C
B
Of
electoral
returns,
so
I
just
decided
to
continue
to
work
with
computers
and
I
am
about
two
or
three
classes:
shy
of
a
master's
degree
that
had
a
baby,
never
worked
out
to
complete
the
degree
so
I'm
still
so
I
I
never
was
because
of
these
qualifications.
I
was
never
hired
as
a
programmer.
Proper
I
was
working
in
data
centers
and
doing
systems
analysis
and
trying
to
make
things
work
from
an
architectural
perspective,
but
it
never
was
a
full-time
program,
so
in
network
architecture
and
security
before
it
was
even
called
cyber
security.
B
I
would
get
these
trouble
tickets
about
Network
performance
and
application
failure,
and
then
I
would
get
down
to
analyzing
packets
and
discover
that,
like
nine
times
out
of
ten,
the
problem
isn't
the
network.
It's
the
application
or
it's
some
sort
of
provisioning
problem
over
thin
types,
and
these
days
provisioning,
you
know
thin
pipes.
Data
transfer
is
not
really
a
problem,
but
back
then
it
was
a
big
deal
so,
and
people
didn't
quite
have
the
graphs
of
of
application
apis
that
they
do
now.
So
there.
A
Agency
content,
that's
cool,
though
right,
like
I,
just
thought.
I
I
was
like
how
did
how
did
she
go
from
system
analyst
to
being
an
open
source
maintainer
but
I?
Think,
like
you
telling
your
story
made
like
it,
it
put
the
pieces
together
and
it's
interesting
that
you
have
like
a
political
science
background
and,
and
you
had
to
like
essentially
explain
the
technology
to
those
folks,
but
in
a
way
that
translates
to
them.
A
No
I
feel
like
that's
kind
of
similar
to
my
role
as
a
developer,
Advocate,
where
it's
like
I'm
speaking
to
different
types
of
people
about
tech
and
then
like
I,
have
to
translate
it
in
different
ways.
I
do
want
to
say
hi
to
a
couple
familiar
people.
We
got
Andrea
a
githubber
from
Florida
and
then
we
got
Purdue,
not
who's,
always
tuning
in
so
I.
Appreciate
that
so
I
loved
hearing
about
your
your
background,
experience
and
I
think
you,
you
kind
of
talked
a
little
bit
about,
like
you
did
net
worth.
B
Okay:
okay,
when
my
husband
and
I
got
married,
we
had
two
kids
and
I
had
one
and
his
oldest
and
my
son
were
like
a
month
apart,
they
were
11.
and
his
youngest
was
eight.
So
these
three
kids
and
we
didn't
know
if
they
were
going
to
get
along
if
they're
going
to
beat
the
crap
out
of
each
other
or
what
so
so.
D
B
Left
my
job
as
a
NASA
as
a
manager
of
NASA's
budget
and
Time
network,
which
is
still
computer
janitor
work,
the
the
other
hallway
was
where
they
received
the
data
from
the
ISS
and
satellites
and
they
were
shiny
shoes
and
suits
and
stuff
like
we
were
jeans,
very
low,
key
people,
so
it
was
fun.
I
enjoyed
the
job,
but
really.
C
B
Was
looking
forward
to
my
life,
but
with
my
with
our
blended
family,
so
much
so
I
I
love
to
drive
some
van,
the
minivan,
and
it
was
great.
It
was
the
best
decision
of
my
life
I
loved
being
there
for
them.
You
know
to
provide
what
they
needed,
but
since
I
wasn't
working
my
mind
started
going
off
in
weird
directions
and
I
back
back.
B
In
my
day
I
it
was
like
big
New,
Wave,
stuff
and
I
wore
great
clothes
and
I
thought
I'm
gonna
do
that
again,
I
don't
have
to
wear
jeans
and
t-shirts.
I
can
do
some
really
cool
stuff
and
nothing
fit
me
like
what
the
heck
has
happened
here.
I
couldn't
find
clothes
that
fit
at
any
price
and
I
realized.
This
was
a
system,
a
system,
systemic
problem
because
it
was
across
the
board
for
everyone.
Not
just
me,
because
I'm,
like
the
average
American
woman.
B
D
B
Makes
clothes
for
me
like
what
is
going
on
here?
This
is
terrible.
I
can
afford
it,
then
don't
they
want
my
money,
hello,
and
it
turns
out
that
67
of
women
are
size,
14
and
above
and
only
10
percent
of
Brands
create
sizes
in
this
range,
like
that's
so
much
money
left
on
the
table
and
I'm
like
oh
I'm,
getting
like
hot
about
this
now.
Okay,
why?
It's,
because,
once
you
get
the
methodology
that
we
use
to
create
sizes
stops
working
at
about
size,
10
or
12.
I
mean
just
it
stops
working
fitting
anybody.
A
B
There's
a
reason
for
this:
you
know,
let's
say
well,
you
know:
I
I
realized.
You
know
doing
all
this
research
I
realized
that
all
fashion
design
software
has
basically
encoded
a
hundred-year-old,
workflows
very
inefficient
and
it
creates
sizes
that
are
based
on
Victorian
era,
ideals
of
body
shapes
that
are
based
on
Northern
Europeans
tall,
skinny
orthopians
that
never
actually
existed.
You
know
these
Godlike
creatures
like
no
and
that's
what
our
face
sizes
are
based
on
our
body
proportions.
B
Our
pattern,
making
formulas
reflect
those
body
proportions
that
don't
fit
that
don't
reflect
real
people,
they
reflect
statues.
You
know
people
that
never
existed.
So
you
know
I
I
figured
out
how
to
sort
of
remove
that
ethnic
bias
from
the
fashion
design
process
yeah.
Because
what
happens
is
we
create
like
a
Baseline.
B
It's
easier
for
smaller
sizes
to
fit
smaller
bodies,
because
there's
there's
these
bodies
are
a
bit
straighter
and
there's
a
lack
of
curvature.
So
you
know
the
the
differences
in
fit.
Don't
really
appear
that
great!
You
know,
because
you
can
move
around
in
a
novel
and
it
works
fine.
But
when
you
get
to
size,
12,
14
15,
you
start
having
curves.
You
have
experience
of
real
people,
whether
those
curves
are
from
from
being
an
athlete,
that's
very,
very
fit
or
your
or
your
base
shape
is
just
different
than
that
ideal.
B
I
mean
it
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
really
with
with
that
percentages.
It's
actually
just
the
typical
variation
of
the
human
body,
we're
not
responding
to
it
and
it's
just
showing
up
we're
just
seeing
it
when
we
get
to
size,
12,
14
16.,
but
it's
there
the
whole
way.
So
we
rip
it
out
and
we
have
a
much
better
fit
so
when,
when
you're,
using
current
fashion
design
software,
that
has
these
assumptions
and
workflows
embedded
in
it
and
you
can't
get
out
of
those-
you
know,
there's
no
flexibility
there.
B
There's
then,
what
you
do
is
when
you
get
to
size,
12
or
14,
and
you
want
to
make
sizes
in
those
Beyond
size
10-12.
You
have
to
start
your
product
development
again
from
scratch,
which
adds
an
additional
minimal
two
to
five
k
in
cost
per
design
per
market.
So
if
you
want
to
go
into
Plus,
Size,
Market
or
Beyond
12
14,
you
have
that
extra.
You
know.
You've
doubled
your
expenditure.
B
If
you
also
want
to
go
into
petites
right,
you've
tripled
your
expenditure,
every
new
market
you're
like
adding
on,
and
so
that's
why
Nobody
Does
it
it's
like.
Well,
we
just
create
regular
sizes
0
to
10,
maybe
12,
and
that's
it
and
then
you
know
they
distribute
it
everywhere.
Those
sizes
everywhere
just
to
make
sure
that
they
get
those
products
in
front
of
consumers
who
happen
to
be
those
sizes
yeah.
But
this
results
in
out
of
every
100
garments
made
yeah.
D
B
Go
to
landfill
because
price
six
years
sold
in
about
20
year
returns,
so
you
take
those
40
that
are
unsold,
plus
the
20
that
are
returned
and
that
just
goes
to
landfill
without
ever
being
warned
and
that's
our
ecological
disaster.
That's
completely
understandable.
So
you
know
fashion
knows
that
it
needs
to
go
through
an
on-demand.
You
know
get
the
order
first
and
then
make
the
product,
but
they
don't
know
how
to
make
they
don't
know
how
to
make
it
fit
you
properly.
So
their
returns
are
still
going
to
be.
B
A
Yeah
wow:
this
is
so
interesting
and
this
makes
a
lot
of
sense
because
I'm,
like
a
lot
of
clothes,
don't
fit
me
you're
right,
because
there's
different
types
of
body
types,
different
ethnicities,
different
just
everybody
in
the
world
is
different.
I
wanted
to
just
quickly.
Let
you
know
there's
like
a
little
bit
of
like
feedback
in
the
background
from
you,
but
I,
don't
know
if
it's
something
you
could
fix
in
the
meantime
highlight
some
some
comments.
A
Like
someone
said,
yeah
people
have
different
anatomy
and
then
Chrissy
on
Twitch
said
shout
out
to
sue
for
adding
her
own
her
open
source
project
to
women-led
open
source.
It's
a
repo
that
a
friend
of
mine,
created
after
noticing,
women
in
in
the
open
source.
Community
are
not
being
highlighted
enough.
That's
shout
out
to
you
for
creating
project
as
well.
Well,
really,
quick
question!
A
Well,
you
know
what
hold
on
hold
on
on
the
question:
Chrissy
I'm,
probably
gonna,
ask
a
similar
question,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
people
get
the
the
whole
overview.
So,
okay,
so
you
talked
about.
You
talked
about
the
problem
that
there
is
or
or
how
you
got
into
creating
this
tell
us
like
the
name
of
your
project,
what
it
is,
what
does
it
do
exactly?
Okay,.
B
It's
seemly
two
D's,
and
that
is
please
call
it
seem
like
today,
because
we
know
we're
going
to
go
into
3D
and
we
already
have
a
prototype
developed
for
that.
Where
we
take
our
these
these
closets.
Do
we
have
your
measurements?
We
have
these
designs.
We
can
export
the
designs
in
you
know:
OJ
mesh.
We
can
take
your
measurements,
create
your
avatar,
not
a
generalized
avatar
from
a
you
know,
5
000
body
database
and
all
this
is
closest
to
you
and
then
stretch
the
pattern
image
over
the
or
the
design
image
over
your
advertising.
B
D
B
A
B
C
B
A
B
A
B
B
All
right
well
she's
great,
but
you
can
see
that
you
know
it's
nice.
It
fits
her.
You
know,
I've,
put
electrical
tape
around
all
of
her
big.
You
know
facing
measurements
of
a
grease
white,
grease,
pencil
and
mark
the
other
one.
So
I
can,
you
know,
make
take
accurate
measurements,
and
so
I've
made
her
a
pair
of
pants
yeah.
C
D
A
B
Would
be
down
like
this
everything?
This
is
what
you
get
in
stores
and
even
following
pattern:
making
formulas
this
is
what
you
get,
but
by
with
seem
like
I'm
able
to
accurately
produce
for
her
measurements
for
her
the
relationship
between
her.
So
there's
no
gas
yeah.
So
you
don't
get
that
you
know.
Even
with
the
lower
lower
jeans
level,
you
wouldn't
get
that
sort
of
Commerce
pants,
but.
B
B
Naming
scheme
you
like
whatever
you
prefer
and
then
the
length
from
the
waistline
to
the
hip
level,
is
what
I've
defined
as
a
waisted
hip
length
and
that
and
we
can
go
in
and
take
a
look
at
that
I'm
going
to
cancel
that
go
to
measurements.
Look
at
our
variables
and
so
you
program
a
pair
of
pants.
The
way
you
program
anything.
This
is
like
coding,
only
better
wow,
and
so
you
can
go
in
and
waste
a
hip
length
there.
It
is-
and
it's
like
it's
taking
from
my
body
measurements.
B
B
So
this
is
the.
Can
you
see
this
okay?
This
is
the
so
these
are
the
actual
body
measurements
and
we've
named
our
body
measurements
of
using
anatomical
points
so
that
translations
from
language
to
language
aren't
confusing.
So
we
may
not
be
using
the
typical
fashion
language
to
refer
to
a
body
measurement,
but
it
is
precise
and
it's
trans.
So
that's
why
you
have
the
opportunity
to
create
a
variable
in
your
pattern
that
uses
the
terminology
that
you
like.
B
B
B
C
B
B
So
anyway.
So
that's
kind
of
how
we
get
from
from
body
measurements
to
the
actual
formula
to
create
a
pair
of
pants.
And
what
we
do
is
we.
We
have
some
operations
where
we
can
create
a
new
pattern
piece
and
we
can
start
like
here
and
start
collecting
objects
to
use
in
our
pattern
and
we
go
around
in
like
a
clockwise
fashion
and
we
Define
these
packages,
and
here
are
the
pieces
that
we
Define
there
are
and
every
time
the
measurements
change
it
just
ripples
throughout
the
system.
B
You
don't
have
to
go
in
and
erase
and
redraw
like
you
do
currently
or
if
you're,
using
Adobe
Illustrator,
which
a
lot
of
people
do
for
pattern
design.
You
can
make
these
changes
that
that
you're
introducing
here,
you
still
have
to
sort
of
walk
the
seams
and
make
sure
you
haven't
done
and
it's
very
time
consuming.
So
we
just
kind
of
automated
all
that
you
can
focus.
C
B
C
B
B
Like
I
could
go
in,
let's
go
back
to
draw
and
I
can
say
all
right.
Let
me
let
me
pick
another
one.
Let
me
pick
what
is
this
showing
you
right
now,
it's
showing
me,
let
me
show
you
moana's
measurement,
see
that's
her.
Those
are
her
measurements.
You
can
tell
that
her
proportions
are
completely
different
than
mine,
I
mean
so
they
did.
This
is
not
a
pattern
that
has
a
particular
shape
and
it
just
kind
of
scales
up
but
retains
its
basic
proportions
to
maybe
fit
her
and
then
maybe
fit
me
this
actually
there's.
C
B
Or
you're
better,
you
can
Define
better
fit
ready
to
wear
sizes
as
well.
If
you,
if
you
want
to
just
you,
know,
zoom
in
on
a
particular
clientele
and
say
you
know,
I've
made
these
lip
people
try
them
on.
So
you
can
do
the
pre-production
model,
the
current
fashion
industry
model,
but
your
sales
will
be
better
and
your
returns
will
be
lower.
Wow.
A
We
enable
that
as
well,
that's
awesome
and
we
have
a
question.
We
have
two
questions
from
the
audience
that
I
think
are
interesting.
If
you
don't
mind,
Judy
asked
and
I
have
like
I,
don't
know
about
fashion
design.
So
I,
don't
know
what
this
means,
but
Judy
asked.
Can
you
do
grading
size
changes
for
different
sizes
from
this
pattern?
We.
B
D
C
B
Why
that
is
I?
Don't
know
that,
so
we
let
you
do
that
as
well,
but
our
multi-sized
feature
could
use
some
work
so
if
you're
a
two
plus
plus
programmer
and
would
like
to
help
out
to
save
the
planet
and
also
provide
yourself
with
some
great
fitting
jeans,
you
know
we
can
work
it
out.
I
can
I
think
that
you
patterns
whatever
you
want,
if
you,
if
you
like,
fix
that
problem
for
it.
A
B
A
B
C
B
B
Webassembly,
it
doesn't
work
great,
but
it's
working.
We
got
it
40
to
qp6
from
pc5,
and
we
have
some
of
our
QT
widgets
are
compatible
through
the
browser,
but
we
have
to
convert
these
QQ
widgets
to
qml.
So
if
you're
that
kind,
if
you're
that
person,
you
can
do
that.
Please
contact
me
yeah,
but
let's
just
I'll
just
create
a
new
pattern,
real
quick
with
this,
and
you
can
see
where
it
dies.
D
D
A
B
A
B
West
yeah,
but
you
know
on
any
computer
I
think.
Currently
we
compile
every
Sunday
night.
We
have
a
growing
a
release
every
week
for
Linux,
Windows
and
Mac,
and
that
is
tremendously
difficult
is
to
keep
up
with
all
the
little
changes
that
happened
with
Mac,
OS
and
Linux
desktops,
and
you
know
it's
just
and
support
Windows,
it's
just
a
lot
so
yeah.
Let
me
close
that.
That's
not
very
interesting.
A
I
could
I
could
only
imagine
no
I
think
people
are
excited.
We
have
people
that
are
watching
someone
said
I'm
an
engineer
who
was
a
designer
on
Pamela
I,
don't
know
what
Pamela
is
but
I
think
that's
good
news
for
you
contact
me
Judy,
hello.net
and
people
are
asking
I
think
out
of
being
interested
in
like
contributing
they
said
they
see
a
fork
on
GitHub.
D
A
A
C
A
B
Going
the
planet
too,
and
we're
in
use
at
the
London
College
in
fashion
university
of
Manchester
requires
us,
of
course,
all
of
their
PhD
students
in
research,
on
digital
fashion,
where
physical
fashion
houses
matching
digital
assets.
They
require
them
to
use.
Seemingly
because
we,
you
have
complete
control
over
the
pattern
and
it's
like.
Oh,
my
gosh
I,
there's
a
lot
Happening
Here.
So
we
think
we're
we're
doing
well,
but
we
don't
have
the
money
yet,
but
we're
working.
B
A
B
You
know
we
we
have
some
libraries
like
human
parser
and
we
have-
and
we
have
you
know
we
we
like
to
to
what
we
want
to
export
our
patterns
as
a
3D
object.
So
if
you're,
if
you're
good
at
with
the
asympt
library,
you
want
to
integrate
it,
which
is
an
open
source
project
by
the
way,
and
you
want
to
integrate
it
into
our
software
contact
us
that's
a
great
thing
to
do
so,
but
the
the
stack
is
not
that
great.
It's
not
that
deep.
B
It's
QT,
C,
plus
plus
a
couple
of
libraries.
That's
it!
Okay!
So
I
know
it's
a
very
narrow
technology,
but
you
know
if
you
want
to
get
in
and
rewrite
it
in
JavaScript.
Let's
talk
yeah,
you
know,
because
I
would
love
to
do
that.
It's
just
we're
sort
of
married
to
our
current
technology,
which
is
why
we're
going
with
webassembly
and
we.
B
B
D
B
You
know
make
changes
to
the
code
just
convert,
you
know
and
have
have
releases
every
couple
of
months,
yeah
rather
than
you
know
every
week,
but
we
can
take
what
we
have
and
then
convert
it
and
stand
it
up
in
the
web
so
that
everybody
can
have
access
to
it,
because
we
want
people
who
have
talents
to
be
able
to
run
our
software
and
PC.
Sales
are
plummeting
tablet.
Sales
and
and
catalytic
hybrids
are
exponentially
growing.
So
that's
where
we
want
to
be.
We
want
to
run
in
the
West.
B
If
you
hear
a
measurement
Yeah
by
definition,
inclusive
of
everyone,
so
your
avatar
will
be
you,
it
won't
be.
Oh,
we
think
this
looks
a
little
bit
like
you
we're
gonna
go.
This
is
the
nearest
thing
we
can
find
in
our
current
database.
So
we're
going
to
show
it
on
you
and
that's
not
really
it
so,
and
then
we
can.
You
know
if
you're
interested,
you
know
we
can
be
safe
income.
Whatever
you
want,
we
could
you
know
just
you
could
be
a
cat
ship
like
that.
B
C
C
B
Yeah
design
and
Export,
it's
like,
oh,
so
we
wanna,
we
are
written
to
be
interoperable,
whereas
fashion
design
software
is
typically
proprietary,
silent,
doesn't
interoperate,
you
got
to
exit
a
manual
and
do
this
and
then
every
time
you
go
from
software
to
software,
you
lose
you
lose
characteristics.
You
lose
Design
Elements,
it's
not
they're,
not
meant
to
work.
So
we
are,
you
know
we
want
to.
We
want
to
have
the
end
to
end
2D
to
3D
and
back.
B
Oh,
let's
just
use
AI
to
Divine
to
design
patterns,
but
the
thing
is
when
you
use
AI
to
do
that,
you
get
these
patterns
that
you
can't
you
can't
actually
make
in
the
real
world,
so
it
has
to
be
guided
from
a
certain
point.
So
it's
this.
Is
this
unusual
in
that
our
AI,
which
we
will
get
to
which
we
can
do?
We
know
how
to
do
that.
B
It's
going
to
be
informed
by
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
be
using
either
woven
or
knit
materials
with
certain
characteristics.
So
you
have
to
know
what
it
is
you're
going
to
make
how
what
it's
going
to
be
made
of,
because
that
there's
an
intrinsic
variable
about
that
when
you're,
making
pattern
designs
in
this
traditional
way
that
we're
using
in
Simi
2D
and
we're
like
traditional.
B
A
A
There's
some
other
questions
and
I
think
you
kind
of
talked
about
how
you
see
your
project
in
the
future
of
going
into
3D
of
of
going
into
being
able
to
be
a
spa
in
the
web
and
and
there's
all
these
other
things
that
you
did
talk
about.
But
people
said
how
can
people
with
little
to
know
I
think
this
is
a
good
question.
I,
don't
have
any
fashion
knowledge
like
what
would
I
even
be
able
to
contribute.
C
B
D
B
Manual
because
you
don't
take
anything
for
granted,
it's
like
that
makes
no
sense.
That's
too
complicated.
You
know
we
need
your
pair
of
eyes
right.
We
need,
we
need
fresh
eyes
to
look
at
our
user
manual
because
we
really
don't
have
one
at
the
moment.
Yeah.
We
have
you
know
17
000,
YouTube
channels
out
there
and
and
Facebook
groups
and
in
multiple
languages,
but
we
don't
have
anything
that
we
provide
ourselves.
That
is
the
you
know
in.
B
A
Apparently,
this
person
helps
to
run
a
student
thrift
store
on
campus,
so
definitely
just
want
to
Echo
what
what
who
has
been
saying
if
you're
interested
reach
out
to
her
at
hello,
seemly.net
check
out
the
the
repository
at
github.com,
fashionfreedom
seemly.2d
and
go
ahead
and
contribute
to
the
the
documentation,
like
you
said,
go
ahead
and
check
out
some
of
the
issues
that
are
open
and
read
the
contributing
guidelines
to
see
how
you
can
be
able
to
contribute
your
knowledge
to
this
project.
I
think
people,
people
are
excited,
and
rightly
so.
A
C
B
A
Oh,
no
I'm,
actually
and
I
I
think
you
did
I
actually
already
mentioned
this,
but
before
I
spoke
to
you,
I
was
like
I,
usually
don't
see,
fashion
things
be
open
source
and
maybe
for
people
who
are
coming
in
a
little
bit
later.
Do
you
want
to
like
reiterate
on
why
you
open
source
this?
What
are
the
benefits
you
did?
You
did
speak
on
it,
but
just
yeah.
B
Yeah,
well,
you
know
so
one
thing:
the
fashion
industry
isn't
going
to
change.
You
know.
I've
talked
to
Adidas,
I've
talked
to
you,
know,
people
that
work
at
h
m
and
they
say
you
know
we
and
people
go
into
college
of
fashion
and
all
these
other
institutions
to
say
this
fashion
industry
isn't
listening
to
us
they're
all
they
all
the
only
response
they
get
is
well.
That's
just
not
the
way
it's
done,
because
they
don't
actually.
D
A
B
B
So
that's
in
our
favor,
so
going
open
source
means.
We
don't
have
to
get
industry
approval.
We
don't
have
to
work
with
them,
they're,
not
funding
it.
The
results
aren't
skewed.
It's
you
know
to
favor
their
current
technology.
We
were
able
to
to
pinpoint
to
discover,
pinpoint
and
implement
the
correct
solution.
C
B
B
We
did
this
first,
the
products
first
and
that's
like
getting
your
peanut
butter,
Center
already
done
and
then
we're
adding
the
business
around
it
like
the
chocolatey
outside
so
chocolate
and
peanut
butter
together,
but
with
Private
Industry,
you
create
the
peanut
The
Chocolate
shell
on
the
outside
first
and
then
try
to
stuff
that
peanut
butter
cinnamon.
So
you
create
your
product
later
and
it
doesn't
always
work.
You
don't
always
get
product
Market
fit
you
don't
always
get
so
we
do
it
backwards
but
open.
You
know.
B
Companies
that
come
from
the
open
source
world
have
a
much
higher
percentage
of
success
and
profitability
than
startups
from
private
Enterprise.
Simply
because
it's
because
we
get
our
product
Market
fit
down
first
and
we
get
it
through,
it's
user
driven
right,
that's
the
difference.
We
don't
have
a
company
going
well
I!
Think
we're
going
to
be
like
this,
like
the
people
who
are
going
to
use
it,
tell
you
what
it
should
be,
what
it
should
do
and
that's
very
fine
grain.
You.
A
B
Just
decided
to
tackle
the
technology
first
and
I
would
sit
on
the
sofa
and
just
visualize,
and
my
kids
are
coming
from
school
and
go
mom
you're
on
drugs
like
yeah
I
am
because
I'm
like
not
doing
anything
for
hours,
just
trying
to
visualize
how
this
is
gonna,
work
and
I.
You
know.
Did
all
my
research
I
learned
how
it's
currently
done
translated
as
manual
pattern,
making
techniques
into
geometry
get
the
math,
and
so
you.
D
B
A
lot
of
different
open
source,
graphics
and
creative
tools
come
together
for
lead
with
graphics
and
I
think
it
fell
apart
for
covid
and
I.
Don't
think
that
they've
they've
kind
of
come
back
together
since
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
future
is
for
that,
but
you
could
find
you
know.
Foggen
is
a
great
place
to
go
to
sort
of
maybe
have
a
birds
of
a
feather.
You
know
send
in
the
things
I
want
to
have
a
15
minute.
Give
me
a
table
and
I'll
put
up
a
sign,
says
anybody
that
wants
to
talk
about
this.
B
A
A
That's
cool,
I'm,
curious
how
this
is
set
up
to
integrate
with
production
process,
for
companies
to
be
able
to
use
this
for
sales
if
each
or
to
be
able
to
use
this
for
sales,
if
each
garment
cut
will
be
a
different
size
and
a
one-time
cut
I
think
this
is.
This-
could
be
really
cool
and
useful
but
hard
to
implement
it.
B
There's
the
company
in
Phoenix
does
Gerber
to
make
the
measure
stuff
and
there's
a
two
billion
dollar
Factory
from
Park
funded
by
far
Fetch
and
a
couple
other
companies
being
built
in
Portugal
just
for
custom
set
on
demand
fashion,
because
that
is
the
future.
The
problem
is
the
software
that
you
use
to
design
those.
Those
clothing
really
needs
to
be
able
to
fit
people
better
than
our
current
industry.
Software
does
so
so
we
are.
A
A
Awesome
I
wanna,
since
we
only
have
14
minutes
left
I
want
to
transition
into
like
a
little
bit
more
on
the
open
source
journey
and
then
ask
some
of
the
non-technical
questions
so
for
for
a
little
bit.
I'll
I'll
ask
those
questions
so
that
we
can
eventually
wrap
up,
but
this
is
a
really
cool,
exciting
project.
You
can
tell
from
the
comments
that
people
are
excited
about
this
as
well
and
I
hope
that
I
hope
that
you
get
a
couple
more
contributions
or
or
users
as
well.
A
B
Can
I
answer
that
after
I
answer
Sarah's
question
about
compatibility
and
whether
she
can
send
stuff
the
safety
machine
sure
I've
had
you
know
people
Design
shoes
with
the
same
lengths
and
they
they
do
layouts
based
on
you
know
the
the
size
of
the
layout.
Is
the
media
size
that
they're
feeding
to
their
water
jet
cutter
for
their
soul,
stuff
so
yeah?
We
we
export
SVG,
PDF
hpvl
a
you
know
the
fashion,
whatever
aamas
format.
A
B
So
the
only
way
to
do
this
is
I
think
through
open
source
and
then
creating
proving
it
like
it's
like
did
you
did
you
know
that
that
at
Netscape,
when
they
were
trying
to
sell
their
browser,
when
you
know
no
one
believed
what
it
could
do
until
they
actually
saw
it
fully
implemented,
and
they
went
oh
wow.
Why
didn't
you
tell
us?
They
could
do
that
yeah?
We
did
tell
you,
but
you
didn't
see
it
till
we
did
it
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
are.
We.
No
one
really
believes
us.
B
So
the
thing
is,
we
were
featured
in
the
keynote
address
at
the
clothing
body-
interaction
conference
in
Berlin
two
months
ago,
and
the
comment
was
made
that
the
fashion,
because
the
fashion
industry
has
no
competition-
that
the
only
way
is
to
really
get
changing,
and
so
this
is
not
just
my
perspective.
This
is
the
perspective
of
several
very
academics
across
the
planet.
You
know
these
definitions.
D
B
Agree-
and
let
me
point
out
that
there's
another
open
source
fashion
design
tool
called
ink
Stitch
that
I
believe
next,
let's
never
developed
and
I'm,
not
sure
I
think
it's
it's
ongoing
I!
Think
it's
a
valid!
So
if
you
want
to
contribute
to
embroidery,
that's
amazing,
so
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
bring
in
each
stitch
design
introducing
the
patterns
so
in
the
layout
or
in
the
counterpages,
so
that
when
you
see
it
when
the
patterns
you
scale
these
embroidery
design
scales
too.
B
So
you
know
what
does
it
make
sense
to
you
so
that
you
so
that
you
so
that
it
it
looks
the
same
on
everybody
and
it
doesn't
look
smaller
on
larger
sizes
and
too
big
on
cars
that
it
that
the
design
itself
actually
scales,
which
would
be
an
amazing
thing
to
happen.
So
if
you
want
to
work
on
that,
hello.
A
Everybody
that's
a
great
idea,
and
no
that
makes
at
least
that
makes
sense
to
me
like
what
you
said
of
bringing
in
there
the
embroidery,
and
you
don't
want
that.
Okay,
because
this
person
has
larger
measurements,
the
embroidery
looks
a
little
bit
smaller
or
bigger,
or
whatever
you
want
to
be
able
to
scale.
I
do
see
one
question
from
Judy
I'm
going
to
leave
it
for
like
just
near
the
end,
because
we
only
have
10
minutes
so
I
kind
of
want
to
talk
through
some
of
these
things
about
open
source
really
quickly.
A
B
A
problem
across
the
board,
so
that's
why
I'm
really
trying
to
get
people
fired
up
about
the
ecological
benefits,
the
sustainability
benefits
of
this
tool
for
the
planet?
So
so,
if
you're,
if
you're
into
that,
which
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are-
and
you
have
some
some
skill
sets
in
anything
related
to
design
and
coding,
just
contact
me
and
we'll
figure
something
out
to
the
end.
So
again,
the
challenges
are
finding
finding
team
members
and
the
other
challenge
is
that
people
people
in
Industry,
especially
in
Middle,
America,.
C
B
Don't
understand
that
99
of
the
internet
is
open.
Source
Google
is
an
open
source
company.
Everything
that
they
rely
on
today,
there's
all
kinds
of
bits
and
pieces
in
your
phone
that
are
open
source
and
and
it's
and
we
have
to
interoperate,
and
it's
it's
just
the
way
things
are
because
technology
is
so
complicated.
You
can't
you
can't
continue
that
early
80s
business
model
of
proprietary
siled
software
that
generates
they're
like
oh,
that
is
expired
and
done.
That
is
dinosaur
world.
B
We
are
now
in
an
area
where
we
have
to
cooperate
if
your
technology
does
not
cooperate,
if
it's
not
interoperable,
then
you're
gonna
die,
and
you
know
like
Judy
Hansen's
questions
is:
is
this
a
middle
tool
between
design
and
Gerber
like
we
are
a
replacement
for
Gerber?
We
do
the
design
and
you
can
go
directly
from
Steam
link
to
the
manufacturing
floor
or.
C
B
You've
got
to
find
a
manufacturer
that
works
with
tooth
attack
or
whatever
and
with
simulator
doesn't
matter.
We
just
you
know.
If
they'll
accept
a
PDF
or
an
aama
file,
it
doesn't
matter,
we
do
not
care.
You
know
your
manufacturer
can
be
a
decentralized
DIY
collaborative
in
Barcelona
which
exists
by
the
way
and
it'll
work.
So
that's
kind
of
that's.
We
want
to
empower
everyone.
Awesome.
A
B
D
A
B
B
B
A
A
C
A
And
then
I
think
this
will
be
my
like
last
open
source
like
question
to.
You
is
like
what
are
your
thoughts
on
how
we
can
improve
diversity
in
open
source,
you've
kind
of
improved
you're,
improving
diversity
in
fashion
so
curious
on
on
your
thoughts
on
that,
it's
sometimes
even
difficult
for
me
to
find
a
lot
of
guest
on
the
show
who
are
not
just
white
men
like
I,
try
to
make
a
special
effort
to
get
women
or
to
get
people
of
different
races
to
get
people
of
different
abilities.
B
Here's
the
thing
I
think
it
says
all
a
matter
of
of
being
actually
open
and
providing
people
that
opportunity,
because
the
requirement
is
get
on
GitHub,
find
it
open
source.
It's
like
what
are
you
talking
about,
so
we
have
these
larger
institutions
that
promote
open
source.
You
know
we
have.
We
have
these
companies
that
get
out
that
handle
sponsorships
payments
for
GitHub
projects,
so
I
think
you
know
SPI
OSI,
even
creative
comments
and
GitHub.
B
These
are
the
opportunities,
and
just
it's
like
a
thing
which-
and
this
has
not
happened
yet,
but
I
believe
that
this
is
the
way
to
get
people
involved,
especially
because
employers
are
looking
for
open
source
contributions.
If
you've
got
a
profile
on
open
source
right.
That
shows
your
open
source
contributions
in
a
in
an
employer-friendly
way.
B
Then
you
have
a
much
greater
chance
of
being
because
people
look
for
this
because
here's
the
trick,
if
you're
a
programmer
and
you've,
been
working
on
things.
There
were
assignments
and
you
created
things
from
scratch,
that's
great
or
if
they're
your
own
ideas,
you've
created
from
scratch,
that's
great,
but
what
they
want
is.
Are
you
capable
of
taking
an
existing
system
and.
A
B
A
Mine
I
love
that
idea
of
going
to
yeah
I
love
that
idea
of
going
to
different
campuses,
because
that's
where
you
get
the
the
students,
the
people
that
just
want
to
improve
their
coding
skills,
even
maybe
even
coding,
boot
camps,
even
though,
like
I,
don't
like
and
and
giving
it
to
everybody
in
an
approachable
way.
As.
B
A
B
A
A
B
C
B
C
C
A
B
C
B
A
B
D
C
B
D
A
D
A
A
I
mean
it's
already
sounds
like
it's
making
waves
in
the
fashion
industry
overall,
so
really
appreciate
it,
and
thank
you
to
the
audience
as
well,
for
you
know
tuning
in
being
really
engaged
asking
questions
and
just
showing
general
interest
about
contributing
I'm
excited
to
see
what
y'all
make
and
Sue
do
you
have
any
last
things
that
you
wanted
to
mention
before
we
completely
go.
Thank.
D
A
B
A
A
Yeah
nice
meeting
you
as
well.
Okay,
thank
you
all
I
know
that
we're
a
little
bit
overtime.
I,
don't
want
to
take
more
of
your
time,
so
thank
y'all
tune
back
in
Next
Friday
for
the
next
project.
I
think
I'm
talking
with
Simon
Willison
about
data
and
how
he's
he's
transforming
data.
So
thank
you
all
so
much
and
have
a
great
Friday
bye.