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From YouTube: AMA with Sid Sijbrandij (CEO) (Public Live Stream)
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A
All
right,
sherry
is
not
on
the
call,
but
she
has
a
quick
question.
We
have
an
open,
ceo
shadow
rotation
starting
on
monday.
What's
one
thing,
you'd
have
you'd
say
to
someone
who
is
on
the
fence
about
joining.
B
C
Yeah,
I'm
here
and
so
hi,
I'm
shane
rice,
ceo
shadow.
This
is
my
first
week
and
I'm
learning
about
all
the
functions
of
git
lab
and
getting
an
introduction
to
silicon
valley,
and
I
will
say
that
it's
really
interesting
to
get
an
inside
look
at
sid's
day-to-day.
If
you
haven't
looked
at
his
calendar,
it
is
like
slam-packed.
Full
of
you
know
very
interesting
calls,
not
just
you
know
internally,
but
also
with
you
know,
people
all
across
silicon
valley
in
the
industry.
C
It's
a
great
opportunity
to
see
how
sid
operates
and
how
he
thinks-
and
you
know
if
you
join
you'll-
get
to
spend
your
first
week
with
me,
and
so
I
think,
that's
a
great
reason
to
join
as
well.
You'll
you'll
get
a
little
bit
of
training
and
insight
from
my
first
week
in
the
program
as
you
ramp
up
so
yeah
I'll.
Let
parker
go
if
he
has
anything
to
add
yeah.
You
beat
me.
D
To
it,
I
would
say
just
do
it,
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
there's
ever
a
great
time
to
to
go
and
take
two
weeks
to
do
something
different,
but
it's
really
energizing.
I
think
it's.
It's
awesome
to
get
a
different
kind
of
exposure
to
the
functions
of
the
business
that
we
may
not
get
and
to
be
honest
chain
is
a
really
good.
A
A
Okay,
no
worries
anything
else
from
shadows.
E
F
Hi
sid:
what
are
you
most
looking
forward
to
at
school
next
week.
B
Yeah
thanks
for
asking
I
first
of
all
I
I
look
forward
to
kind
of
celebrating
the
last
year.
We've
had
an
amazing
year
and
during
a
pandemic
we
overachieved
on
our
goals,
and
I
we
quickly
in
marketing.
For
example,
we
quickly
changed
our
go
to
market
strategy,
we're
able
to
miss
up
make
up
for
the
missing
in-person
event.
So
I
look
forward
to
celebrating
that
and
then
I'm
excited
about
our
channel
program.
B
I'm
excited
about
our
partners,
mostly
the
strategic
partners,
amazon,
gcp,
vmware
and
ibm,
and
I'm
excited
about
the
new
comp
plans.
I
think
they
are
they're
a
huge
improvement.
So
these
are
things
I'm
looking
forward
to
thanks
for
asking.
F
B
You
want
me
to
read
the
whole
thing:
yeah
people
want
context
like
you're,
okay,
you're,
you're,
you're,
a
smart
person.
You
have
contacts
that
is
helpful
for
people
to
see.
So
please
don't
shy
away
from
that.
The
fact
that
I
already
put
my
answer
in
doesn't
mean
that
that
I'm
not
interested
in
the
question.
F
Okay,
so
we've
started
positioning
marketing
of
gitlab
more
towards
devops
platform
and
it
seems
like
we're,
de-emphasizing
the
plan
and
create
stages
quite
a
bit.
But
as
I
watch
atlassian
and
follow
their
website,
I
notice
their
positioning
trello.
F
Is
this
entry
point
for
less
technical
users,
and
I
think
this
adds
a
lot
of
feats
outside
of
r
d,
because
you
have
project
managers
and
other
people
in
the
company
all
involved,
and
I
think
gitlab's
product
in
this
realm
is
more
competitive
than
two
years
ago,
just
using
it
for
my
own
team.
So
I'm
kind
of
curious
if
we've
over
rotated
here,
you
know
away
from
marketing
this
part
of
what
we
offer
and
just
what
your
perspective
is
on
that.
B
Yeah,
I
I
think
you're
right,
that
our
product
is
much
more
much
better
than
two
years
ago
and
we
might
not
have
kind
of
embraced
that
ourselves,
but
I
think
about
what
does
it
take
to
be
competitive?
Two
thoughts
come
to
mind.
I
think
we
need
your
import
custom
fields
and
enforcement
of
workflows
and
then.
B
F
Makes
sense
cool,
I
have
the
next
one
here.
How
do
you
view
microsoft's
approach
to
tightly
bundling
digital
transformation?
Software,
like
github
with
office
versus
the
more
open
approaches
that
google
cloud
and
amazon
are
taking?
Do
you
think
we'll
see
more
consolidation
to
offer
similar
gtm
approaches
for
some
of
these
cloud
platforms
over
time,
like
atlassian,
getting
acquired
by
a
big
player.
B
Yeah
they're
bundling
it
all,
but
but
it's
it's
one
big
azure
bundle
that
then
includes
office
and
includes
github.
It
makes
total
sense
from
from
their
perspective.
B
That
helps
to
make
clear
that
github
for
microsoft
is
a
vehicle
to
drive
more
azure,
and
I
think
I
think
we
should
capitalize
on
that
by
getting
closer
to
every
other
cloud
and
making
sure
that
we
have
a
multi-cloud
offering
that
works
great.
On
azure,
like
we,
our
biggest
customer
is
like
on
azure
and
using
gitlab.
So
it
should
work
great
great
with
azure,
but
also
with
everyone
else.
We
should
have
the
whole
rest
of
the
market.
Rooting
for
kit
lab.
F
B
Yeah
paul
graham
tweeted
three
hours
ago,
imagine
what
an
effective
philanthropist
visas
could
be
if
he
picks
the
right
problems,
he'll
absolutely
crush
them
so
for
the
benefit
of
the
world.
That
is
my
wish
for
his
next
role.
G
Hey
sid
just
wondering
what
our
interest
level
is
in
the
low
code,
no
code
space
because
it
sure
seems
like
it's
exploding
in
popularity
in
the
enterprise
space
right
now,.
B
I
think
it's
a
very
interesting
space,
I
think,
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
different
tools
that
are
all
called
loan
low
or
no
code,
which
are
very,
very
different.
It's
like
all
the
way
from
air
table
and
retool
to
things
that
are
hack
box
and
things
like
that
that
just
make
it
easier
to
deploy
up.
So
it's
a
very
wide
space,
I'm
interested
and
I'm
outside
of
gitlab
I've
taken
an
interest
in
an
individual
capacity
in
a
project
called
node-red,
which
I
find
very
interesting.
B
F
B
Yeah
I
want
to
thanks
for
that
and
eric
put
in
a
link
for
the
existing
direction
page
of
no
low
code.
Thanks
for
that
eric,
I
think
right
now.
The
most
important
thing
is
that
we
get
back
on
track
with
sales,
hiring
we're
behind
where
we
plan
to
be,
and
now
it's
getting
to
a
point
like
if
we
hire
any,
if
we
don't
make
up
that
lost
ground,
we're
gonna
miss
we're
gonna,
miss
targets,
so
that's
the
most
essential
thing.
H
Yeah,
I've
got
the
next
one
here
and
I
guess
unfiltered
is
a
treasure
trove
of
videos
and
content,
and
one
of
the
I
guess,
videos
I
stumbled
upon
was
your
y
combinator
demo
day
from
2015.
so
curious.
What
you
remind
remember
from
that
day
and
what
questions
you
and
dimitri
got
after
your
introduction.
B
Two
questions
come
to
mind.
B
B
It's
so
demo
days
like
super
super
busy,
so
there's
a
huge
crowd
of
people
and
we
were
kind
of
in
this
meals
like
we
were
taken
by
the
crowd
out
going
outside
and
aston
kutcher
came
by
with,
like
an
entourage
and
all
kinds
of
people
chasing
it.
It
was
like
hey
sid,
you
have
a
business
card
like
no
do
you
he's
like?
No
all
right,
welcome
we'll
find
each
other
as
we
separated
in
this
mealstrom,
but
he
ended
up
investing
in
our
seat.
B
I
Hey
sid
really
appreciate
you
doing
these
things.
That's
awesome!
I
So
sometimes
there's
discussions
about
who's
responsible
for
something
and
it's
it's
not
clear
who
it
is
one
that
I'm
currently
involved
with
is
that
the
spam
and
captcha
stuff
like
I
ended
up
touching
this
code
as
part
of
snippets,
which
is
part
of
the
edit
group,
but
I
ended
up
doing
some
sort
of
needed
refactors
on
the
front
end
and
back
end
and
identifying
a
bunch
of
other
work
that
could
be
cleaned
up
and
followed
on
and
some
bugs
and
and
stuff.
I
So,
but
it
it's
not
clear
who's,
the
owner
of
that
and
the
second
example
that
www.
I
know
that
you're
aware
of
that,
and
I
really
appreciate
there
being
progress
made
on
that.
But
the
like
the
situation
I
find
myself
in
is
you
know
I
I
want
to
help
with
this
stuff,
and
I
I
want
to
do
good
for
the
company
like
I
have
the
context,
but
the
editor
group.
I
We
currently
already
have
seven
different
areas
of
responsibility,
and
you
know
I
I
have
to
do
my
job
there
and
I
don't
want
to
volunteer
for
all
of
the
extra
things,
or
at
least
not
completely,
so
it
seems
like
it
would
be
helpful,
given
how
these
discussions
have
gone.
If
there
were
more
process
around
this
of
saying,
okay,
here's
something
that's
not
clearly
owned.
At
least
it's
not
written
in
the
handbook
who
owns
this
or
if
it's
unclear
like
what
different
groups
own,
what
parts
of
this
and
a
process
to
get
that
resolved.
I
B
Yeah
thanks
for
that
you're,
very
right,
like
you
see
like
in
most
companies
like
80
of
the
stuff,
doesn't
have
a
super,
clear
owner
and
there's
and
we're
we're
spoiled,
because
we've
done
an
amazing
job
of
defining
owners
and
anytime.
It's
not
clear.
You
find
like
wow,
that's
a
lot
of
inefficiency,
so
we're
I
really
appreciate
you
raising
it.
It
should
be
clear
product
should
make
it
clear.
B
The
capta
captcha
thing
should
be
in
the
features.jamo
on
the
categories
page
and
I
will
make
sure
it
is
so
thanks
for
raising
it,
the
wwe
repository
it
needs
to
be
split,
but
it
needs
to
be
split
in
the
right
way.
I've
seen
a
lot
of
proposals
that
I
don't
think
split
it
up.
Right.
For
example,
we
have
a
slash
company
that
has
content
that
should
be
under
slash
handbook,
so
that
probably
I
don't
need
to
be
part
of
the
move
or
needs
to
be
moved
first
or
something
like
that.
B
The
handbook
should
go
to
lnd.
The
marketing
side
should
go
to
marketing,
and
that
report
should
be
split
so
separate.
The
two
concerns
so
I'll.
Take
this
to
the
r
d,
weekly
call
or
bi-weekly
call
to
make
sure
it
gets
addressed,
and
if
you
have
something
like
this
in
the
future,
do
raise
it.
Your
the
company
owes
you
a
clear
dri
for
anything
and
if
you
can't
resolve
it
by
the
management
chain
feel
free
to
drop
it
in
the
ceo
channel
at
any
time.
F
Yeah
I'm
wondering
if
we
have
a
future
where
we
ever
provide
version
control
for
things
like
music
and
movies
and
cad,
and
I
guess
more,
visual
and
graphical
things
or
weirder
file
formats
beyond
what
we
support
today,.
B
B
What
has
happened
is
that
we
have
two
there's
two
approaches:
there's
the
git
approach,
which
allows
you
to
kind
of
prepare
something
really
big,
that
touches
multiple
parts
of
something
as
and
presented
as
one
comprehensive
proposal
and
then
there's
the
figma
approach
that
focuses
more
on
real-time
collaboration
and
everyone's
on
the
same
page,
the
whole
time,
but
it
doesn't
allow
you
to
like
make
a
big
proposal,
and
the
thing
is
that
the
figma
approach
is
so
usable
and
so
convenient
that
that
seems
to
be
winning
in
the
marketplace
now.
I
still.
B
I
still
think
that
the
make
a
bigger
proposal
approach
makes
sense
like
if
you
want
to
do.
If
you
get
a
movie
and
you
want
to
do
another
cut,
you
want,
you
can't
do
that
piecemeal,
like
you,
have
to
move
a
lot
of
things
around
in
order
for
someone
to
view
your
proposal,
but
don't
don't
argue
with
the
market,
so
I'm
not
sure
where
it's
going.
I
I
think,
a
couple
years
ago
we
saw
people
building
on
top
of
gitlab
to
do
things
like
editing,
legal
texts
and
things
like
that.
B
B
On
the
other
hand,
real
time
doesn't
allow
you
to
make
a
coherent
proposal,
which
is
also
sometimes
important,
so
which
one
is
it
going
to
be
and
in
the
meantime
we
should
focus
on
what
we
can
influence
and
an
example
I'm
thinking
of
is
like
in
issue
descriptions.
I
want
real-time
editing,
I
don't
want
version
control
there.
I
want
us
to
use
that
in
a
meeting
instead
of
a
google
doc
like
this
should
be
an
issue
where
we're
in
right.
B
Now
it
shouldn't
be
google,
so
we
need
real-time
editing
for
issue
descriptions
and
then
what
can
we
do
to
improve
usability?
Probably
as
soon
as
a
user
added
something
that
causes
a
merge
conflict,
we
should
tell
the
user,
like
hey,
you're
now,
causing
merge
conflicts
because
they're
probably
interested
no
one
wants
merge,
conflicts,
they're,
horrible,
there's.
No,
the
solution,
isn't
locking
files
or
stuff
like
that.
The
user
is
informing
people.
F
B
J
Tim
hey.
I
was
curious
how
you
stay
motivated
to
see
through
gitlab's
continued
success.
I
know
recently.
We've
had
some
folks
that
have
been
with
gitlab
for
a
while
say,
they're
goodbyes,
and
I
know
how
easy
after
a
few
years
just
having
a
desire
to
maybe
work
on
new
problems
or
solve
different
challenges
can
be
a
real
kind
of
threat
to
keeping
people
around.
So
what
do
you
do
to
stay
committed
to
the?
What
we're
working
towards.
B
Yeah
for
sure
well,
first
of
all,
I'm
encouraged
that
our
retention
is
way
better
than
the
industry
average.
So
yeah
you
see
the
goodbye
messages
of
people,
that's
logical
at
our
scale
that
some
people
are
leaving,
but
I
think
it's
very
encouraging
that
we
have
a
lot
fewer
people
leaving
than
other
parts
of
the
industry.
B
I'm
motivated
because
of
the
opportunity
ahead.
The
devops
market
is
going
to
grow
from
eight
to
17
billion
dollars
from
last
year
to
2023
same
time.
Devops
platforms
within
that
market
are
going
to
grow
from
10
to
40
percent,
so
there's
a
huge
opportunity
for
the
best
devops
platform,
and
I
think
that
that
opportunity
and
the
potential
for
continued
high
growth
is
what
motivates
me.
J
J
K
B
Yeah,
I
I'm
not
subscribed
to
like
sub
stack
and
stuff
like
that.
I'm
subscribed
to
a
ton
of
things
that
sign
me
up
without
me.
Wanting
to
I
don't.
My
email
box
is
already
a
mess,
so
I
don't
want
to
make
it
even
more
of
a
mess
as
far
as
newsletters
satakiri
is
a
great
one,
and
I
just
read
the
website
and
the
tweets
and
newsletters
are
a
bit
last
year.
B
I
think
it's
clubhouse
now
so
I'll
be
on
clubhouse
soon,
with
austin
allred
to
if
you're
into
trendy
things
but
yeah.
I
do
think
it's
a
it's
a
great
vehicle
and
I
love
that
it's
the
dis
intermediation
of
newsletters
that
there's
not
a
central
platform
that
controls
them.
L
Hey
sid,
I
just
put
some
a
comment
back
up
under
number
five,
because
I
came
in
late.
Sorry,
where
you
and
danielle
were
talking
about
microsoft
using
office
as
a
as
a
bundle,
and
actually
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
little
bit
of
clarity
there.
I
think
there
is
a
play
where,
if
office
is
in
there
and
they've
got
an
ela
they'll
use
that
ela
to
then
maybe
even
give
away
github
to
get
them
on
to
azure.
B
I
think
it's
very
it's
simpler.
We
can
say
I
think
you're
totally
correct,
and
I
think
we
can
say
it's
simpler.
Microsoft
is
leveraging
every
thing
they
have
in
a
company
to
get
azure
it
used
to
be
everything
had
to
serve
windows,
and
now
it's
everything
has
to
serve.
Azure
and
office
is
serving
azure,
github
is
serving
azure
and
it's
not
office
is
not
directly
serving
github.
H
M
Byron
yeah,
sorry,
I
said
in
the
last
2020
ama
you
mentioned
that
you
bought
a
new
dj
system
and
we're
hoping
that
your
dutch
roots
would
maybe
help
your
career.
Take
off.
Are
you
enjoying
it
and
have
you
started
a
soundcloud
yet
that
we
can
follow
you
at.
B
No
no
soundcloud,
yet
I'm
just
mixing
different
songs,
just
one.
I
want
to
do
that.
Sundown
set
and
it's
been
super
fun,
and
this
weekend
I
actually
brought
out
the
system
because
I
taught
someone
else
yogurt
admiral
from
hackerone
how
to
how
to
dj.
Now,
I'm
not
the
best
dj
in
the
world,
but
I
already
had
some
skills.
I
could
teach
him
so
we
had
a
fun
night
doing
that
together
and
I'm
I'm
not
super
skilled.
B
I'm
using
like
the
the
electronics
to
help
me
match,
beats
and
stuff
like
that.
But
it's
it's
fun,
I'm
enjoying
it.
It
sounds
really
good
and
but
I'm
not
creating
songs.
I
think
all
the
really
good
djs
today
they
make
music
and
that's
a
really
long
time
for
me
ago,
module
tracker
and
s3m
for
anybody
interested,
but
not
doing
that
at
the
moment
it's
a
bit
more
time
consuming.
N
So
you
talked
about
the
ice
skating
competition
and
I'm
not
even
gonna,
try
to
butcher
the
name
of
it
because
I
I'll
stay
down
there.
You
go
just
wondering
if
you
think
they'll
have
it
this
year
and
if
you
would
consider
going.
B
Yeah
the
there's
now
first
ice
in
the
netherlands,
so
so
some
people
are
speed
skating,
but
I
I
think
it's
relatively
late
in
the
year,
so
I
think
the
odds
of
something
happening
are
low
for
sure
I'm
not
fit
for
it.
I
I
just
bought
an
elliptical,
so
I'm
looking
I'm
hoping
to
get
into
shape
a
little
bit
more,
but
if
it
if
and
when
it
happens,
I
will
be
on
a
plane
to
the
netherlands.
Whatever
happens.
A
All
right,
it
is
8
25
pacific,
so
we
will
async
the
rest
of
the
questions
and
I
hope
everybody
has
a
good
day.