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B
So
I'm
Caitlin
Chappell
I'm,
a
new
support,
engineer
and
I
think
my
favorite
thing
about
working
at
get
labs
so
far
is
that
meeting
people
from
all
over
and
hearing
interesting
stories
or
about
cool
things
from
where
they
live?
So
what's
something
unexpected
that
you
learned
from
someone
here
at
give
lab.
A
It's
about
the
places
they
live.
I
had
a
coffee
chat
that
Charlie
who
lives
in
New
Zealand
put
on
a
while
ago,
and
she
showed
us
around
and
it's
a
meeting
that
only
grid
sees
on
is
the
internet
and
then
only
by
a
mobile
phone.
She
sees
like
on
a
4G
connections.
He
has
pretty
good
video
calling
and,
as
he
showed
us
around
the
property,
she
showed
her
hood
working
shop
and
she
showed
a
tent
that
they
built
at
a
very
special
story.
So
that
was
amazing.
C
Sorry
there
we
go
sorry
about
that.
Oh
thanks
for
having
us
this
morning
and
a
kind
of
more
business
related
question
is
around
as
we
plan
to
potentially
IPO
later
this
year.
How
do
you
feel
that
that
will
impact
the
company
business
or
anything
like
that?
Just
any
changes
you
feel
would
be
coming
from
the
company
at
that
point,
yeah.
A
A
A
A
Right,
we
already
have
a
nice
statement
here,
so
we'll
get
more
disclaimers
everywhere.
Just
one
also
point
out
that
we're
not
sure
we'll
go
public.
It's
our
ambition
to
do
that
in
on
November
18th,
but
we'll
see
how
far
we
get
much
earlier
than
other
companies
go
public
and
in
general
the
idea
is
not
to
change
too
much
now
have
it
affect
our
culture
too
much,
and
hopefully
the
greatest
things
like
if
I
will
achieve
are
happening
after
going
public
not
before.
D
Said
it
suppose
on
the
channel
channel
team,
with
Michelle
Hodges
responsible
for
programs
to
enable
men?
So
as
you
look
across
our
you
know,
alliances
in
Channel
landscape
and
you
know
the
ecosystem
that
we
have
built
up
and
our
building.
Where
do
you
think
the
partners
gonna
have
the
biggest
impact
in
the
next
12
to
18
months?
I?
Think.
A
Co
selling,
when
AWS
is
the
biggest
lever
we
have
any.
We
s
is
the
most
used
cloud
and
they
want
their
customers
to
use
DevOps
to
link
that
is,
that
is
multi
cloud.
That
is
not
the
property
or
any
cloud
vendor.
So
I
think
we
have
a
great
go-to
market
there
day
of
strong
sales
channel
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
where
I
expect
the
biggest
of
iacv
games
to
come
from
thanks.
E
For
asking
Frederick
I
said
Frederick
here:
I'm
part
of
the
finance
team
will
be
aligned
the
sales
going
forward
prior
to
coming
to
did
lab
I
specialize
in
SAS,
but
that
ops
industry
is
something
new
to
me.
I'm
curious.
What
kind
of
publication
or
resources
do
you
usually
follow?
Just
so
I
could
understand
the
industry
better
going
forward.
That's.
A
A
good
question
I
think
I
watch
hacker
news.
A
lot,
that's
about
everything,
particularly
DevOps
I
watched
Twitter,
a
lot
that
is
also
about
many
many
subjects,
not
just
DevOps
I.
Think
our
DevOps
comparison
page
is
an
interesting
place
to
start.
So,
if
you
Google
I'm
sure
my
speed
so
for
the
screen
sharing
field.
A
You
go
to
our
DevOps
tool.
Landscape
I
think
it's
interesting
to
kind
of
make
yourself
familiar
with
the
other
offerings,
so
you
can
click
them
and
get
an
idea
for
what
they
do
good
it,
and
if
you
don't
want
to
understand
kind
of
what
happens
like
what
happens
in
these
things,
I
think
you
can
click
this
get
to
kind
of
a
stage,
lifecycle,
so
kind
of
the
features,
and
if
you
wonder,
what's
coming
up
there's
another
page
on
our
homepage
at
the
bottom,
it
will
maybe
the
future.
A
Maturity
is
a
good
page
for
that
you
can
see
how
far
we
are
and
the
different
sections
you
can
click
any
section
to
get
a
better
idea.
You
can
also
click
roadmap
to
get
a
better
idea
of.
What's
on
that
part
of
the
roadmap
on
what
we're
thinking
about
it's
a
bit
of
a
good
lab
perspective,
I!
Think
of
understanding
all
these
sections,
all
these
capabilities
and
the
competition
in
each
is
this
might
be
a
good
way
to
get
started.
Is
that
does
that
answer
your
question?
Yes,
thanks!
F
A
I
think
that
has
to
stop
like
the
executive
team
is
not
scaling
like
it's
not
growing,
so
we
got
to
make
sure
that
middle
management
also
understand
is
part
of
their
job
is
not
just
their
reports
also
and
trying
to
guide
the
company.
When
there's
an
issue
at
hand,
I
think
another
thing
is
that
there
tends
to
be
different.
Behavior
in
a
covert
is
in
text.
It's
easy
in
the
text.
A
It
just
gives
something
leave
out
some
context,
a
bit
snarky,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
every
time
we
communicate,
we
we
try
to
be
constructive
and
some
sometimes
it's
even
unintended,
but
just
text
communication
is
lower.
Bandwidth
is
how
it's
less
context
so
I
think
those
are
two
challenges.
We
have
an
internal
communication.
A
G
A
For
sure
external
monitor,
like
big
external
27-inch
all-nighter
super
important
I
got,
a
standing
desk
must
submit
that
it's
always
takes
of
it
to
actually
use
it.
I
have
to
Mouse's
I,
got
a
feather
to
sing
injury
and
kind
of
both
my
hands,
so
you
gotta
make
sure
I
alternate
my
hand,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
put
too
much
on
on
one
of
them
and
I
have
no
air
conditioning
in
this
apartment,
which
is
amazing,
is
in
the
summertime.
H
My
question
has
two
parts:
the
first
part
was
a
current
panic
in
the
stock
market
and
increase
the
uncertainly
level
in
the
economy.
Why
do
you
want
to
say
to
the
team
because
they
come
keep
focus
on
what
we
are
doing
at
your
lab
instead
in
part?
What's
your
personal
secret
weapon
if
they
come
and
the
focus
yeah.
A
A
So
our
marketing
team
is
looking
at
that
other
than
that.
If,
if
there's
an
economic
downturn-
and
this
is
my
trigger
one-
it
might
not-
we
don't
know,
but
if
there's
a
boundary,
oh
wow,
it
is
that
one
hand
slow,
it
slows
cell
cycles,
Bridget's
getting
cut,
so
it
will
make
it
tougher
to
sell,
get
allah.
On
the
other
hand,
companies
will
be
interested
in
saving
money
and
be
more
efficient
with
the
people
they
have,
which
is
coming
if
I'll
can
helpless.
So
I
think
it
will
be
both
a
problem
and
an
opportunity.
A
I
think,
ID
comfort
in
the
fact
that
we
have
a
great
cash
position
so
we'll
have
time
we
should
not
hesitate
to
make
decisions
and
actually
right
now,
one
of
I'm
gonna
focus
their
next
80
days
in
on
efficiency,
improvements
with
the
rest
of
the
executive
team
and
with
the
rest
of
the
company.
So
that's
unrelated
to
this
and
I
think
it.
If
this
happens,
that
will
be
the
right
action
as
far
just
maybe
morning,
you
bargained
for
with
your
question
any
comments.
I
mean
thank.
A
Like
in
the
beginning
of
the
company,
you
had
fewer
events,
but
they
had
a
bigger
amplitude
like
it
was,
oh,
my
goodness,
it's
so
great
and
and
oh,
the
company's
gonna
risk
as
we
get
bigger
the
amplitude
cuts
lower,
which
you
have
higher
frequency.
So
it's
it's
important
to
like
not
get
swept
up
too
much
in
emotions
with
other
photo,
I
feel
kind
of
roller
coaster.
The
whole
day,
and
my
my
way
of
doing
that
is
saying:
hey,
not
so
much
like
in
the
beginning.
A
If
something
happened
to
the
company,
I
was
like:
oh,
my
goodness,
like
the
company
should
be
perfect,
and
this
is
a
problem
and
I'm
responsible
now
I
try
them
a
more
like
okay
for
bigger
company.
Now
there
will
be
good
and
bad
things
happening
all
the
time.
What
can
I
do
about
it?
What
is
my
world?
What
should
I
say?
So
it's
important
to
kind
of
limit
yourself
to
kind
of
your
sphere
of
influence.
A
I
A
And
I'm
I'm
surprised
at
like
how
easy
things
like.
Oh
remote
and
transparency
are
but
they're
not
easy,
but
they're
much
easier
than
I
thought
like
we're,
not
the
biggest
all
remote
company
by
now,
I
think
for
our
size,
the
most
transparent
company
in
the
world,
I
didn't
think
that
was
possible
and
we're
not
winners.
We're
not
like
it's
not
something,
hopefully
that
people
perceive
us
like.
A
A
So
that
I'd
really
like
to
go
to
Japan
and
Moscow,
that's
the
talk
to
Japan.
We
were
looking
to
go
to
the
Olympics,
but
it's
it
might
be
very
hot
there
and
then
it's
not
super
fun.
If
it's
super
hot,
you
have
to
kind
of
like
attend
things,
so
we
cancel
that
it's
also
a
ton
of
time
at
Moscow's,
also
bit
too
far
away
right
now,
I'm,
what's
convenient
from
San
Francisco
is
Hawaii,
which
is
an
amazing
place,
we'll
look
forward
to
go
there.
It's
also
convenient
convenient
in
big
quote.
A
A
A
I
A
First
of
all,
you
should
40
hours,
I,
think
I'm.
The
CEO
I
should
be
probably
the
busiest
person
also
and
largest
individual
shareholder,
not
individual,
as
in
non
non
organizational
non
VC
shareholder
in
the
company,
so
I
have
the
role
in
the
incentive
to
to
work
longer
hours,
don't
model
my
behavior
I
commonly
get
up
at
6
o'clock,
go
to
the
gym
and
I
start
at
7:30
and
commonly.
The
first
call
is
with
our
personal
assistant
in
the
Netherlands.
So
at
8
o'clock,
the
company
meetings
start
until
5
o'clock.
A
Mostly
then,
I
wrap
up,
try
to
answer
a
few
emails
and
every
last
fact
message
so
work
from
8:00
till
5:00
and
then
I
have
some
family
in
the
Netherlands,
so
I
do
calls
with
them
throughout
business
hours.
Just
like
most
calls
I
get
leftovers
are
25
minutes
as
well,
except
are
mostly
via
whatsapp.
Instead
of
zoom.
A
Maybe
it
worked
between
I'm,
sorry
between
finest
Seixas,
maybe
a
call
or
maybe
wrapping
up
I,
don't
I
tend
to
not
work
after
6:00
and
then
in
the
evening.
I
have
like
it's
intact
in
there.
That
is
we
and
on
the
shadow
page
I
think
it's
called
the
valley
type
where
it's
kind
of
a
person
you
like,
but
it's
also
professional
contact.
So
it's
it's
it's
over.
At
the
same
time,
actually.
J
A
A
In
DevOps,
tooling,
you
had
point
solutions
for
every
part
of
the
DevOps
lifecycle
and
at
some
point
someone
made
a
match.
We
had.
We
had
two
products,
we
have
Gil
and
version
control
via
live
CI.
Some
point
Camille
makes
a
much
better
fit
version
of
half
of
CI.
The
runner
part
we
end
up,
make
him
an
offer.
A
He
joins
the
company
a
couple
months
in
he
says:
hey,
we
should
combine
the
two
and
the
meet
you,
my
co-founder
says,
doesn't
make
sense,
they're
perfectly
integrated,
like
they
have
single
sign-on
the
same
concept
of
what
the
user
can
do.
It
doesn't
get,
there's
no
benefit
there.
I
also
say
this:
does
it
make
sense
our
customers
like
to
buy
individual
tools
and
compost
them
and
he
keeps
even
after
the
initial
knows,
he
keeps
pushing
for
it
and
he
says
look.
A
This
is
gonna,
be
better,
not
just
for
us
easier
for
us,
but
also
for
the
user,
because
you
can
have
everything
in
context.
Everything
in
a
single
data
store,
and
we
do
it
any
turns
out-
is
totally
right
and
right
now
it's
changing
the
industry.
You
can
see
get
up
now
following
our
lead,
adding
CI
and
packaging
and
security
to
to
their
product
and
we're
leading
we.
We
have
to
bother
scoping
and
the
most
that
in
that
scope,
so
that
decision
changed
the
industry.
A
It
changed
our
company
in
our
trajectory
and
it's
something
we
did
after.
We
initially
said
no
I'm
glad
we
reversed
that
decision
and
that's
where
our
sub
value
of
disagree
commit
and
disagree
comes
from.
You
invite
people
to
disagree
with
decisions.
Would
you
expect
if
a
decision
has
been
taken
to
execute
on
that
decision?
But
you
can
keep
disagreeing
with
the
person
who
made
that
decision
in
the
hope
that
they'll
reverse
it
and
that's
I
think
the
most
important
decision
that
get
map
and
it
wasn't.
It
wasn't
obvious.
J
A
Did
you
think
someone
on
Hacker
News
can
complain
that
handbooks
in
general
are
mechanical
and
it
feels
almost
like
someone's
trying
to
program
the
company
guilty,
like
I,
think
I.
Think
I'm
now
trying
to
program
the
company
to
the
handbook
and
I
think
it's
super
high
leverage
super
high
impact.
It's
a
it's
a
bit
of
a
fuzzy
programming
language,
this
English
prose
but
I.
Think
it's
it's
very
flexible
and
it's.
It
allows
for
a
lot
of
creativity
and
impact.
So
I.
A
Like
that
I
wonder
whether
any
of
my
lines
are
still
in
get
lot,
maybe
in
the
big
me
a
few
lines
here
and
there
I
think
my
SSH
code
was
really
really
bad
pretty
quickly.
But
if
someone
is
someone
who's
curious
and
finds
out,
please
PLEASE
dump
it
in
the
CEO
channel.
How
much
is
still
in
there,
but
also
I'm,
not
the
world's
most
talented
programmer.
I
saw
it
in
previous
engagement
that
I
tended
to
gravitate
towards
project
management.
Things
like
that
I
like
it
like
this.
A
My
there
was
a
recent
magazine
cover
it's
on
my
facebook
post.
So
maybe
that
shadows
can
try
to
find
it.
It
should
be
public
post,
but
my
I
said
in
the
interview.
My
wife
is
a
better
programmer
than
me
and
the
e
status
the
headlines
that
was,
that
was
pretty
cool
she's
a
senior
software
developer
at
that
hacker
one.
She
just
got
a
promotion
it'll
be
part
of
it.
K
Jeff
enter
is
our
team
public
sector,
so
one
of
the
things
that
kind
of
intrigued
me
this
is
from
some
previous
career
experience,
was
that
there
was
some
content
that
was
publicly
available
on
what
gitlab
was
doing
with
blockchain,
since
my
onboarding
I
haven't
had
that
much
time
to
look
into
it
again.
So
I
was
just
curious.
How
you
see
get
lab
aligning
with
blockchain
what
use
cases
you
think
are
probably
the
most
valuable
for
us
and
our
customers,
and
particularly,
if
you
see
any
in
the
public
sector
or
defense,.
A
Yeah
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
walk
to
things
going
on
other
than
theirs
watching
companies
using
get
lab
to
develop
what
eats
offer
seed.
Blockchain
is
another
data
story.
We
use
post
grass
for
database
records,
we
use
Redis
for
kind
of
queues.
We
use
going
to
use
vault
for
secrets.
We
use
cloud
storage
for
like
big
attachments
on
log
files
and
things
like
that.
What
change
is
another
one
of
those
methods?
It's
slower
more
expensive,
but
it's
super
reliable.
It's
and
it's
it's
shared.
A
It's
it's
kind
of
a
place
of
record,
so
I
could
I
could
see
us
at
some
point.
For
example,
we
have
a
releases
feature,
maybe
and
Note
8
or
a
note
8-
that
release
in
the
blockchain
so
that
everyone
knows
what's
up
but
I,
think
that's
a
bit
far-fetched.
It's
more
trying
to
make
blockchain
work,
quick
if
I
would
I,
don't
see
any
anything
on
that
like
the
year
horizon,
where
I
actually
have
an
impact
other
than
hopefully
all
the
important
companies
or
Hughes,
and
continue
to
use
good
luck
good
to
go
yeah.
K
Think
what
was
interesting
is
seeing,
if
particularly
the
government
will
adopt
it
to
take
some
of
the
inefficiency
out
of
things
like
getting
approvals
for
DCAA,
which
is
the
you
know,
federal
compliance
for
contractors,
helping
people
with
other
types
of
compliance
like
around
security,
like
the
risk
management
framework.
The
problem
with
that
is
that
the
government
itself
has
to
embrace
it
and
I.
Don't
think
they're
that
motivated
to
do
that,
so
I've
been
trying
to
figure
out
how
do
we?
K
You
know
jumpstart
this
and
kind
of
force,
the
issue
with
government,
but
that's
that's
a
big.
That's
a
big
project
and
I
haven't
seen
anything
that
seems
to
be
moving
in
that
direction.
Yet,
but
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
for
everybody
if
we
could
get
some
of
that
bureaucracy
out
of
the
way,
especially
to
help
innovation
and
help
us,
you
know
stay
on
top
of
you
know
the
tech
technology
and
in
the
forefront,
yeah.
A
I
could
see
it
will
be
cool
to
have
a
better
land
registry,
or
something
like
that
would
blockchain
I.
Think
it's
kind
of
weird:
did
you
have
to
buy
title
insurance
when
you
purchase
a
home,
so
I
could
see
that
and
I
think
a
lot
of
things
were
people
now
advocating
for
blockchain
and
government
could
just
be
solved
with
the
government
having
a
database
with
an
API.
It
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
be
on
the
blockchain.