GitLab Delivery Team Fast Boot, 30 Apr 2019

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Delivery team fast boot Day 3: Discussing branch, tag and package naming to make it consistent across projects.

The issues listing the work done are contained in epic https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/release/-/epics/17

A

So for the auto-tagging release, we said: how often does it run? It does not this.

B

Is not critical.

A

How do we know they didn't already trigger the same wrath? We decided to move on tax and now the problem is, how do we actually name the branches and name the tax right and then the version and in the version? So that's the main thing remaining to discuss. Yes, all right. Here's a marker and explore to a new, maybe maybe.

A

Spread it on the bed, because it's very difficult to see make bigger. You mean yes on one side, please.

C

Okay, so I went through the process kind of what we, what we discussed yesterday to see what we would get out of the pipeline so for better or for worse. This is what we have is the branch name in the tag game. Alright,.

B

C

Happy with the time being because it has refs in it, which is a little redundant for a time, but let's just leave it as it is for now, because I can't think of anything better, and then we have the version of the package that is built so I know. You know this logic now. I know this logic and it's really awful, but basically we can make this. You know we can make the version whatever we want, and we just need to figure out how to translate these two into it.

C

Now what I did was like okay, it has to be Center compliant yeah, meaning that needs major minor point. Yes, so I said I'm gonna take you know this part, and this part for the major and minor and I just made it zero yeah, because.

A

It's always going to be slowly 0 and then.

C

The standards to make it super compliant, then you add like a plus character. Alright and then I was like okay I'll just do this and then the Omni, Rev and I. Think when you build a package because can't go, do it somehow turned into a tilde, but the fact it was made. I don't know, but I'm not sure, actually what the version of the report, but either a where it's only here on that.

C

So this is kind of what it looks like I have a question: what's gonna happen when you try to do an upgrade of the package. Is.

A

Gonna alternate between downgrading up in our presence because of the ERF. Yes,.

C

And this is why we have the sort order right and also maybe why we use the pipeline ID.

A

C

With nightly build, sir.

A

So we have well nightly is a bit different because we tagged properly, but the branch built. This is why we use fire in French. Yes, so that enforces that you always have RF as the first thing, so it's always an upgrade. So it's always after RC correct and then you just check what was the tank is.

C

A

Idea and then, luckily, my family, which constantly increments ok.

C

So this will pepper ID so that that is how the upgrade works, because mm-hmm.

C

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D

Correct so it's 1110 zero and then our branch and then pipeline ad, which is constantly incrementing Denish.

A

And zero, because, just because it's the incremental advantage, I.

C

Need to actually install the package to see the version, but I don't know like I think this won't work. This won't work just well. It won't work for upgrades for sure I mean.

A

Maybe you can install it, but you can install it if you force yes, so we used to do that. I, don't remember whether that got changed in our environments, but this is why, in the cookbook we have the force, yes for our installations, to enforce that any RC is not taken as a downgrade yeah, so bees might work if we still.

C

Have that yes, since we can, we can make this format whatever we want, and only person is easy to change yeah. What do we want it to look like I, think, major and minor? We need 1110 I! Think it's not zero. We always need that. Yes, but then I don't know like we could put a pipeline ID. We could put all the deploy. We could.

A

Put in weekend, good all.

C

The new boy yeah.

B

I, don't want to do all of the play, because I actually want to publish these.

C

Bills before the official release right yeah.

A

No, it's not because of that! It's because you want to make sure that if you ever need to install an RC for some reason or you need to install an official package for some reason that you can actually install it and it's not considered the downgrade because it comes before our. So if you want.

C

Sun series well yeah: okay,.

A

Then you need to do our branch, but then for.

C

A

I think that yeah.

C

Okay, so just just think, like it's question mark for now, and then we need something here that increments and Star, Trek and I were talking about this on the way here, and you have options right. You can do the CIA ID of omnibus.

C

Man I might need yeah. I was just thinking yeah the pipeline. The CID is very well all right, correct, okay, so, finally, two more we could do the pipeline ID.

C

This thing, which is the thing that the job that finds the green, commits because that's gonna, that we could also put that in the tank. But.

A

This complicates things, doesn't it because you need no need to pass another variable from relievers yeah I figured I.

C

Was actually thinking that if we were to put something unique in the tank that isn't the refs, you could put the the thing that is doing the timing, but I'm just gonna put it I, don't think it's probably maybe not a good idea, but I was thinking what else people put in there, but.

A

You want to change the tag you know. Look, they are you doing a final version, that's what you're trying to yeah okay, and so we can't use. We can't use the pipeline an idea phone numbers because we don't have it at the time exactly.

B

That comes later yeah, so.

A

We created the tag.

C

From the release tools right we're framing the tag from the release tools and it's tagging, killaby e and Tommy bucks and any tests everything's. At that point yeah we were also.

A

Discussing the.

C

Way down like, why can't the tag? Why do we need the Omnibus graph and I think we need Yami's? We need the time. You need something unique. That's for both all right. You can have nothing. Those changes, I've already changed all right and you don't want to move text.

C

That's why? Yes, so then, whatever let's say, we thought I might get your light. If you do this.

A

This is, this number is never gonna change right for us. Why don't you change it and say 1110 pipeline ID and then all of a sudden, you have 1110 three million. Whatever else you want to have it comes after point. Releases yeah. Is that a problem.

C

Because I mean yeah, this might be the artists I think like the way. The way that I see this actually is that these builds replace our season, dignity, right and and we'll use these up until we cut an official religion scene or point release work for you. So.

A

Here's the thing I'm, making a judgment call here and saying get public um is being detached from how we build final releases for sub manage customers so on the 22nd you're not gonna have the package that goes out to self-managed on the 22nd you're going to have on it alone, you're going to have 1111.

B

Something already right, because.

A

It's continuing to deploy. We.

C

Will I'm sure we will tag 11, 10, 1 and 11 10 right, 11, 1000 and maybe baby? No, no okay! So we'll pick whatever shop, it was tested on, get calm and we'll tag. It yeah.

B

C

B

Any more than normal.

C

Tiger both pull into the same song time to sing shot and yeah yeah.

A

Yeah so I mean there is a point to be means that if we do want to deploy at any point yeah, then yes, we're gonna, have a problem, but.

C

That will simplify things for us significantly here it would. It would actually be kind of nice that I've done in there, because, because.

A

Then you also resolve a problem. We then definitely need to work on the help. Page look yeah.

C

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C

It means that this problem goes away.

A

Yes, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter at all what you have after that.

C

But it also means it always: it's always going to come after our seas and it's always going to come after mmm releases which it's okay.

C

Actually I kinda like this nd, we.

A

Can also do something really really weird.

D

A

And now you have pipeline ID, which is 505. That's 11:10, well,.

C

Then it will definitely always be yeah.

A

Damn it is gonna, but my point is like if that is the main confusion, make it even more problematic yeah. Let's like this, is nucular option.

D

D

Okay, I, don't.

C

Like it too, I think it's a it's a good idea. Now we have to decide which pipeline ID and whether like this x, still makes sense for us, like I, know like it works as it is, but it is well.

A

I mean if you're going down the disrupt and ensure that you have this so then assistance.

C

So then it's xi and.

A

Pipeline idea, various tools builds your attacks, I.

D

A

To have this, yes, because I want to be able to quickly find out what is the latest year? I found a version from the version like that's you, you have no idea.

C

B

Times I saved us when.

A

When working on a nightly we're working on well not like way, but any of the package bills I mean.

C

It's possible that we could put it in the version without the in the static, because omnibuses also knows the ETL.

A

Provides right, but you you want an easy way of reference knows you do.

C

A

Don't want to go into like.

C

Figuring out every.

A

Time every single package.

B

A

With an overview of all the pipelines that you have, you can see.

D

C

A

It's like you're, not the only one using the packages you're, not the only one dealing with them, trying to install them and so on, and this is way easier for when they're obvious, we need to write it down document it yeah.

C

It makes a lot of sense to put it here here: okay, yeah.

D

A

It's just like it's redundant right because it's another, but keeping it consistent in making it very clear that you know this is not only like a backwards release of any sort. But if you just keep it like this, if you just keep it like this, then it is somewhere only and that is gonna users gonna, make it even difficult to clean up the stacks.

A

Right, yeah, accessible USA.

C

Okay and keeps it consistent so yeah this this ID yeah.

C

Which comes from the time all.

A

Right, so is that it Wow there is, is yeah I think yes, this makes yes.

C

Okay, well, there aren't that many changes to implement this any like 30 minutes or so, and then I think we'll be done. We'll just need to.

D

This could be the highlight of the week is starting this process. Yeah just.

A

Video nurse right down, yes blind by money-wise what you're doing there.