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B
A
From
talk
international
women's
day,
apparently
it's
an
official
holiday
here
in
berlin
and
nobody's
working
except
me
so
yeah,
that's
pretty
cool.
A
User
testing,
I
did
some
user
tests
and
apparently
we'll
only
do
10
at
a
time,
so
I
was
wondering
if
anybody
else
has
done
this.
I
know
anna
and
I
were
struggling
with
this
to
try
and
make
it
work
so
just
kind
of
looking
for
anybody
else
to
have
this.
Who
else
made
a
comment?
A
Laurie
whitaker
had
made
a
comment
about
to
not
use
user
testing
to
use
qualtrics
instead,
and
I
don't
know
why
one
versus
the
other-
and
I
thought
that's
what
user
testing
was
for
is
just
for
simple
one:
click
test
or
simple
tests.
So
if,
if
qualtrics
or
the
other
platform
was
a
better
environment
to
do
a
single
one-click
test
that
she
said
that,
maybe
then
I
should
move
the
test
over
there
see
I
was
looking
for
that
kind
of
feedback
or
anything.
E
Yeah
I
can.
I
can
give
also
a
bit
more
context,
so
obviously
you
can
both
you
can
use
both
tools.
The
drawback
of
using
qualtrics
is
basically,
you
would
have
to
recruit
separately,
whereas
within
user
testing.
All
of
this
is
done.
Basically
in
one
go,
so
you
can
just
yeah
do
everything
in
there.
You
don't
have
to
take
care
of
recruiting
as
extensively
as
you
would
if
you
use
portraits.
E
So
I
believe
that
the
limit
is
because
of
our
subscription,
but
I
also
think
adam
and
this
threat
just
to
bring
some
clarity
into
this,
and
there
are
ways
in
user
testing
to
set
the
filter.
When
you
set
up
your
audience,
you
can
actually
select
people
that
previously
participated
in
your
test
and
to
not
include
them
in
the
next
one,
so
that
would
be
a
way
to
increase.
Basically,
the
sample
to
50.
D
Nothing
like
super
helpful,
but
I
think
it
makes
sense
if
you
wanted
to
keep
it
in
user
testing.
You'd
either
have
to
make
more
of
those
short
tests
or
build
it
out
into
a
bigger
one.
I
think
the
intent
of
a
short
test
is
to
like
intentionally
keep
it
to
a
small
group
of
people
to
a
smaller
length
of
time.
D
A
It
sounds
like
you
already
broke
it
down
small,
so
yeah.
One
of
the
reasons
I
like
the
user
testing
was
because
I
got
like
instant
feedback
and
I
don't
know
how
anything
else
will
take
like
the
setup
was
the
hardest
part
into
the
longest
time
right,
because
I
had
to
go
back
and
think
about
it
and
make
some
changes
and
then
tweak
some
stuff.
But
then,
once
I
submit
the
test
like,
I
literally
get
an
instant
response.
A
D
F
A
You
get
more
results.
It
was
just
that
concern
that
perhaps
somebody
could
go
back
and
click
the
new
test
and
get
the
same.
They'd
be
the
same
respondent
and
just
do
the
same
thing
five
times.
Instead
of
getting
five
different
versions
of
feedback
like
I
don't
expect
that
to
be
like
the
norm,
but
it's
just
something
I
was
thinking
about.
E
Yeah,
so
I
said
you
can
set
up
the
filter.
Basically,
when
you
set
up
the
audience,
but
then
also
in
general
user
testing.
Had
this
has
the
setting
called
fresh
eyes
so
for
a
certain
time
period.
I
don't
know
the
exact
time
at
the
moment,
but
there's
basically
for
anyone
like
that
participated
at
at
a
test
within
our
account.
G
Anything
else,
whereas
my
questions
so
daniel,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
what
you
would
consider
short
tests,
but
I
just
want
to
ask:
has
anyone
done
like
a
five
second
test,
and
this
is
to
test
basically
the
size
of
the
validation
text,
so
whether
it's
currently
14
pixels
and
what
I'm
suggesting
is
to
drop
it
down
to
12
pixels?
G
And
basically
you
know
what
catherine
explained
was.
You
know
you
show
a
screen
for
five
seconds
and
then
you
ask
you
can
ask
you
know
specific
questions
after
that.
So
her
suggestions
were
what
do
you
remember?
What
can
you
do
on
the
site
and
who's
the
site
for
so
depending
on?
If
they
actually
catch
the
validation
text,
they
hopefully
will
kind
of
reiterate
that
in
the
follow-up
questions
which
is
kind
of
cool,
but
I
was
just
curious
if
anyone
had
experience
doing
that.
A
A
F
A
You
could
do
like
50
people
or
100
people
and
it
wouldn't
like
bill
you
more
or
something.
I
don't.
E
E
Yes,
the
short
tests
there
are
cheaper,
basically
than
a
regular
test,
and
there
is,
and-
and
they
are
limited
in
time,
so
it
should
not
be
more
than
like
one
to
two
questions
like
imagine
something
like
five
minutes
less,
whereas
a
five
second
test,
it's
a
separate
methodology
in
itself.
It's
mainly
used
to
basically
test
your
eye
copy
and
understand
and
test
the
understanding
of
that
particular
ui
copy
or
yeah
like
a
first
impression
test
kind
of
thing
like
this.
E
D
I
had
a
question,
or
maybe
more
of
a
thought.
I
was
reading
through
catherine's
suggestions
for
the
five
second
test.
D
I
don't
know
if
you'll
get
that
inside
or
not
because
I
think
that's
ultimately
like
the
hypothesis.
You're
testing
is
like.
If
we
reduce
the
help
text
or
the
validation
text
down
to
12
pixels,
will
it
still
be
readable.
G
Yeah
now
I
will
say
that
every
other
design
system
that
I've
looked
at
ibm
mobassian
a
couple
other.
They
do
use
12
pixel
font,
there's
only
one
loom
actually
uses
16.5,
but
that's
the
only
one
that
I
found.
So
I
wonder
if
it's
such
an
insignificant,
we're
such
a
minor
change.
If
that's
something
that
we
can
go
off
of
his
industry
standard,
so,
let's
you
know
go
with
the
12
pixel
and
not
even
test
it.
H
Are
you
worried
about
pushback
or
like
someone
being
concerned
about
the
change.
G
It's
just
validating
that
the
change
will
not
affect
the
communication
of
the
errors.
So
what
I'm,
having
trouble
with
is
using
a
validation
message
within
a
table.
So
really
we
don't
have
much
height.
So
that's
kind
of
the
reason
why
we're
wanting
to
reduce
it
to
12.
H
I
think
like
personally,
if
I
were
kind
of
wary
of
it,
I
might
do
just
kind
of
like
what
you're
doing
like
a
short
test
and
have
have
like
a
task
like
you
know,
have
a
display,
and
then
I
think
this
is
what
you're
doing
after
the
fact
be
like
okay,
what
was
the
error
that
you
needed
to
fix
and
then,
if
users
could
recall
that,
then
you
have
that
data
to
back
up
that
change
and
if
someone's
like?
Oh
this
seems
small,
I
don't
know.
H
C
I
think
there's
the
potential
to
test
this
at
the
component
level
and
and
say
we're
we're
doing
this
12
14
pixels,
there's
also
the
potential
for
you
to
to
not
necessarily
work
off
the
component
within
your
designs,
meaning
that
you
can
have
like
a
specific
way
of
approaching
it.
So
that's
another
consideration.
I
don't
know
whether
it's
the
best
consideration,
but
it's
just
another
way
of
potentially
going
about
it,
and
then
also
another
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
if
you
are
testing
a
something
at
the
component
level.
C
The
test
that
you're
talking
about
right
now
is
only
really
giving
you
a
partial
answer.
It's
not
really
showing
you
the
broad
the
breadth
of
use
cases
and
contexts
in
which
it
sits.
So
you're
not
gonna,
get
like
a
full
like
a
full
response
to
your
hypothesis
and
the
only
way
to
get
that
full
response
would
be
to
implement
it
in
the
product
and
deuce
may
be
testing,
and
that
would
that
would
give
you
the
breadth,
breadth
of
answers.
C
So
that's
that's
one
way
to
go
about
it
and
test
the
components
at
a
system-wide
level
and
then
finally,
I've
forgotten
what
the
the
term
is,
but
it's
in
the
handbook
somewhere
of
reversible
decisions,
and
it's
like
really-
it's
really
easy
in
this
case
to
swap
the
text
from
12
to
14
and
14.
Back
again,
it's
not
like
a
one-way
thing.
Where,
once
you
make
that
decision,
you
can't
swap
it
back.
So
that's
another
consideration
as
well.
G
That
makes
total
sense.
My
concern
is
that
that's
really
kind
of
a
little
bit
overkill,
perhaps
that
what
we're
looking
for
to
me.
That
sounds
like
more
of
a
massive
test.
I
don't
know
I
don't
that's
not
quite
the
word,
but
it's
almost
like
using
the
five
you
know.
Second
rule
sounds
like
jeremy's
on
board
with
that,
so
it's
almost
like.
I
want
to
conduct
that
and
see
how
that
goes.
G
I
also
want
to
conduct
it
because
I
want
to
know
you
know
kind
of
the
the
answers
that
come
back
and
just
see
how
successful
it
is
just
in
case.
I
want
to
do
it
in
the
future,
so
I
might
try
that
and
then,
if
that
fails
nick,
I
might
then
move
towards
more.
A
b
testing,
like
you
said.
C
Yeah,
I
mean
speak
speak
with
the
developers
because
they
can
give
you
the
feasibility
of
how
you'd
go
about
it,
and,
along
with
that,
you
could
also
use
feature
flags
to
test
this
with
just
git
lab
team
members.
First,
so
you
could
just
test
it
on
dot
com,
gitlab.org
to
start
out
with
and
and
see
how
it
goes.
D
This
is
a
random
aside,
but
when
I
was
in
my
last
role,
we
were
testing
something
similar,
but
instead
of
like
it
being
the
font
size,
it
was
like
the
color
of
gray.
We
were
using
for
inputs
and
we
were
trying
to
do
remote
testing
with
users
and
our
users
like
couldn't
see
the
input
fields
and
to
me,
I'm
like
they're
right
here
in
front
of
us.
Why
can't
you
see
them,
and
it
was
because
their
monitor
contrast
was
turned
up
so
high
like
when
I
physically
went
and
saw
them
in
everett
washington.
D
I
could
see
like
yeah.
This
screen
looks
completely
white,
because
your
configuration
of
your
hardware
is
messed
up,
that's
something
that
can
sometimes
be
hard
to
test
for,
but
it
is
a
reality
sometimes
that
people
that
are
hard
of
like
seeing
or
have
like
a
older
setup.
Sometimes
those
smaller
pixels
or
the
lighter
colors
are
just
not
visible
at
all,
which
I
don't
know
how
in
the
world
we
ever
catch
that.
D
But
just
keep
that
in
mind
like
when
we
think
about
these
things.
I
really
liked
your
idea
of
looking
at
a
table,
essentially
of
like
which
design
systems
use,
12,
pixel
font
for
help
text
and
which
ones
don't,
and
I
think
that's
a
good
evidence
artifact
to
attach
to
your
suggestion
when
you
bring
it
forward
to
like
the
foundations
team,
with
whatever
research
you
decide
is
necessary.
G
F
G
A
G
A
That
it's
hard
to
look
at
the
youtube
library
of
all
of
our
videos.
It's
like
seeing
just
screen
grabs
from
the
whatever
portion
of
the
video.
It
is
it's
like
some
weird
table,
or
some
one
person's
profile
image
is
like.
Okay,
I
don't
understand
anything
here.
I
think,
having
a
template
or
like
a
something
we
can
use
like
a
universal
copy.
Pasta
would
be
kind
of
nice.
G
G
That's
a
joke!
Nick
real,
quick
nick
when
I
first
joined
he
kept
talking
about
zebra
stripes
and
I
was
like.
I
have
never
heard
that
design
term
in
my
life,
so
I
finally
asked
him
and
he
was
he
was
like
oh
zebra,
and
I
was
like
okay
that
just
confused
me
more
than
anything
zebra.
I've
never
heard
it
pronounced
that
way.
So
thank
you.
Nick
for
teaching
me
something
new.
C
I
was
in
the
coffee
shop
earlier
today
and
I
went
to
the
lady
at
the
counter
I
was
like.
Can
I
have
one
of
those
scones,
please
she's,
just
like
what
guys
one
of
those
scones
please
she's
like
what?
What
are
you
talking
about?
Sorry?
What
are
those
scones?
C
G
Says
you
yeah
all
right
cool
well,
thank
you.
Everyone
for
the
input
anything
else.
F
I
just
found
a
thought
about
using
the
figma
thumbnail
template
for
videos,
it's
nice
and
easy
to
read.
It
might
be
a
good
like
intermediate
solution
until
we
accomplish
something
more
snazzy.
A
Sorry,
that
is
that
you
would
have
double
titles,
because
it
has
whenever
you
embed
a
link,
and
it
shows
a
preview
tile,
it
has
the
youtube
title
across
the
top
which
it
auto
generates
or
generates
off
of
the
metadata
and
then
you're.
Looking
at
the
title
for
the
screen
that
you
see
already
that
you
want
to
use
for
the
figmas,
it
looks,
it
might
look
weird
that.
F
D
G
Open
up
an
issue
and
we
can
all
discuss
it
there,
I'm
gonna,
be
discussing
it.
G
Okay,
anyone
else
have
any
topics
they'd
like
to
discuss.
C
C
So
I'm
currently
in
the
middle
of
designing
this
value
stream
stuff
and
one
of
the
aspects
of
value
stream
that
is
important,
is
how
efficient
you
are
within
each
state.
Is
this
blackboard.
A
C
C
I
don't
know
what
yeah
right
screw
it
for
some
reason
as
well.
Not
letting
me
share
my
screen
so
I'll
I'll
I'll
record
something
and
post
asynchronously
instead.
G
Then
I
know
a
lot
of
people
are
having
issues
with
zoom,
specifically
sharing
screens
and
whatnot.
F
Updates,
could
you
drop
a
link
into
the
agenda?
C
C
Create
a
form
so
currently
within
value
stream.
C
You
can
basically
show
the
start
of
end
and
end
event
that
is
contributing
towards
the
particular
stage,
and
what
we
want
to
do
is
also
include
idle
time,
as
as
opposed
to
active
time,
which
basically
shows
how
much
of
the
time
within
that
stage
you
aren't
actually
working
on
it,
and
that
ratio
between
active
time
and
idle
time
gives
you
your
your
efficiency
for
that
stage
and
your
entire
value
stream.
C
So,
in
order
for
this
to
work,
I
am
looking
to
try
and
one
differentiate,
active
time
and
idle
time,
two
create
the
stage
and
blocks
or
the
stage
in
a
way
where
you
can
it's
it's
not
taking
up
too
much
space,
because
you
also
in
the
context
you
need
to
order
the
stages
of
where
they're
going
and
so
on,
and
then
also
allow
for
multiple
active
times
or
idle
times
to
be
added
in
an
or
statement
rather
than
a
and
statement
so
yeah.
C
I
was
just
wondering
feedback
on
this
form
design,
which
is
using
tertiary
buttons
and
drop
downs
instead
of
primary
buttons,
which
we
have
now
and
whether
sort
of
these
tertiary
buttons
for
the
add
another
active
time
and
add
another
idle
time.
They
sort
of
make
sense
in
this
context,
as
well
as
like
the
the
green
and
the
the
green
and
the
red
bars
for
differentiation
and
yeah,
whether
it's
worthwhile
posting
them
in
in,
like
a
big
block
to
make
it
easier,
whether
it's
just
better
just
leaving
some
white
space.
C
C
The
control
g-
I
think
you
press,
I
think
it's
on
you.
C
C
So
what
I've
found
is
the
current
button
styling
with
the
drop
downs.
It
becomes
very
clunky
and
cluttered
because
we're
adding
so
many
different
drop
downs
next
to
each
other.
And
then,
when
you
extrapolate
that
to
say,
we
have
10
stages
in
total,
like
there's
a
lot
of
drop-downs
a
lot
of.
C
So
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
simplify
the
interface
and
find
the
right
balance
between
making
the
form,
usable
and
accessible
at
the
stage
level,
but
then
also
making
the
ordering
of
stages,
usable
and
accessible
at,
like
the
the
broader
level
of
the
value
stream.
C
So
this
shows
what
it
could
look
like
if
it
was
like
surrounded
by
a
box,
but
then
it'll
the
the
multi.
It
also
shows
like
the
multiple
active
times
available.
A
C
It's
it's
sort
of
a
model
at
the
moment,
for
the
most
part,
they're
similar,
just
one's
got
a
box
around
it,
and
then
this
one
has
once
you
click
on
the
add
another
active
time
button.
C
That
would
give
you
this
this
this
one
below
with
the
or
active
time
underneath.
So
you
have
two
green
bars
and
one
red
bar.
You
see
what
I
mean.
C
I
think
I
need
to
oh
sorry.
I
need
to
frame
it
a
little
bit
more
effectively
right
now.
It's
just
sort
of
work
in
progress,
so
I
didn't
have
too
much
time
to
think
about
it.
B
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
I,
like
the
inline
buttons.
I
think
that
it
it's
nice
to
be
able
to
add
them
from
the
particular
context.
B
So
you
don't
have
to
like
scroll
up
to
the
top
of
the
page
and
click
an
add
button
and
scroll
back
down.
It's
going
to
be
exactly
where
that
that
information
is
at
that
time.
Do
we
have
anything
like
that
currently
in
the
product,
it's
kind
of
contextual.
D
Maybe
kind
of
I
found
this
screen
from,
I
think
it's
policy
management
had
this
like
working
prototype
that
they
were
building.
D
I
don't
think
it's
actually
in
a
product,
yet
I
think
this
is
just
in
some
sort
of
like
staging
environment,
but
they
did
build
like
a
if
this,
then
that
tool.
So
I
thought
this
would
be
helpful.
It
looked
similar
to
what
you
were
kind
of
trying
to
achieve
from
like
a
layout
perspective.
I
don't
think
this
is
built
anywhere.
Yet
I
just
have
seen
annabelle
show
it
to
me
before.
I
thought
it
was
super
nifty,
so
I
dropped
that
link
in
the
that's
perfect.