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From YouTube: 7. #everyonecancontribute Kaeffchen hosted by Michael Friedrich (German)

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Agenda: https://gitlab.com/everyonecancontribute/general/-/issues/17
Guests: Niclas Mietz, Mario Kleinsasser, Bernhard Rausch, Michael Aigner, Nico Meisenzahl, Marcel Weinberg, Michael Friedrich

Highlights:

Niclas kicked off with a live demo on "Managing AWS credentials with Terraform using the GitLab integration (state backend, repository and MR integration)". Must watch if you want to start learning! A blog post is coming soon.
- https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/infrastructure/
- https://gitlab.com/everyonecancontribute/everyonecancontribute.gitlab.io/-/issues/24

Bernhard continued our discussion about "Ops/DevOps and how our working/thinking changed the past years". Thanks Patrick Debois for starting!
- https://twitter.com/rauschbit/status/1277136034430627845?s=19

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Welcome to the holiday edition, so at least one or the other has learned. We stressed it, but you have prepared something.

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I have that we think that doesn't work.

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Lose it's super relaxing if you don't do anything with the whole thing. Computer club there, everyone.

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Did that we know that we want to see once you have, the problem is, then it comes back again. This is mostly then brutal is sacred, not within half an hour.

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Is like when the canola cockpit is.

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Like before, nowhere like that, like I'm, actually only two works under so far building lego, who is who hasn't seen it yet. I linked that in the crap stories, with the video with an boxing, and so because we soon asked what the funny thing was happening, what they were doing there feedback cities hip year, we'll do next week, and then yesterday we thought so more could actually unboxing video too profit doesn't have a friend mix of there won't ever be that's the keyword.

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Through laub 1000 1000, somehow, first of all micro instruments, so something with cleveland, it's.

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To two diesels: it's.

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Different, I tried it on tv yesterday because you have some. Yes, I have at that time. It was justified to upload videos that were longer than ten seconds under ten seconds in any case was very surprised that instagram tv is so much about influenza.

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It is probably more like illness, long story, short I started protection from the tree and I find it exciting have for the singing, by the way,, and so yes, that's what I do everything we know the agenda through submissions or because you talked a bit about states at the beginning, no brand just jump into the stades, so niklas and master marcel, but the.

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First floor me: I have no one to say: I have n't prepared very much now I 've finally again made more than I unfortunately managed to do in time. But it's getting worse, but one vote we'll just hire you right now and just look.

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At it, and would have a better experience together, just like you, because hens and flies than if we did right now, mainstream I had to find a right. One I'll call you info somewhere else, I, probably.

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To my dearest, bigger one, that's no problem at all.

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You're all probably right there now, yes, so there was this situation, I think in Germany, 13, 0 or 1. 13 1 comment is a much loved feature. We keller from the state about in the pipeline time management. I tried it out last week. I think I work in our company for smaller projects, and I thought it was cool, so I said I have to show it because Then other people will definitely find it cool, because the dark ones were relatively good, idiosyncratic, but I'm more of a practically haptic person.

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So you have to show something- and I'm not just talking about the suffering right now. So, let's just do it with a small example. I now have a nrws account from the condition simply that I best got my turn very quickly than others. Other klopp continue account.

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That's not bad at all. I'll also do something in between maybe something about tera form. His goal is somehow the whole chose that we immediately on the right side place is a scion, see that we 're happy for a lot of amazon, elastic bradstreet and that's best done in the middle via a pipeline,, but I would also like to go into the point that has n't been explained so well yet , how you can still do it locally, because you should still do it locally with terror form, because that can still sometimes lead to problems.

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If you do everything every year, when you doesn't have enough test and so on, but a bit of luck will also help us at the end of the day. Yes, that's why I want to start. I have on the right side. I already have a public repo. We make everything public, I don't do anything in secret.

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I have I just created an empty repro and I also have the only thing I have set so far is I. Think that I recently wrote about how to get to the ews ii briefly. I have now removed protected here. That is because I still want to tell you. I would like to introduce another feature right away,, which is directly related to the pipelines with the terror of the member.

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That's, why it's not limited to projects and that we then immediately form groups,. So that means the most important thing we might need is. The first thing we probably need is something we call the terra incident.

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That means terra form always starts with you infrastructure, so that the potters is not a crash management tooling, something like the nbbl puppet chef or something like that. It's actually about managing resources, creating resources deleting everything that cross believes providers have fortunately only circle and that's why they are very good in kota, is more concentrated, but form also has the option of integrating other providers marcel had already written about it.

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That's just the only thing that would participate.

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And in that sense, therapy also offers a couple of providers. So if you're bored you're welcome to join the list, that will also follow in the blog post, which is everything so there is from the provider and mast or you can also write a terra from the provider, but you would have to write it later,, however, , because thera forms everything from the cloud space as well, in which we are written, as I said,.

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This time we will devote ourselves to the subject of abs,, the subject of the provider, far ve rspread and for the most part so, and we will now also create the simple ecr right away,. So of course, I have already prepared something like a good TV chef, ,.

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Which means that so that we don’t have to type everything now, I have now written a bit of terra from the faeces in and we'll go through that a bit, maybe quickly. That means here with the cellar from begging. That's now the new feature arm. What later discussed reform has the possibility that you no longer save the state locally on the computer, but stop also in a remote cymbal, and that can now be an ep in this case you can see, but also on the right side.

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There are a few more other bands that are also supported. That means the classic way you often save the ms three buckles on top of that or just in the respective club. Keep it up. Eva m is also doing that for me, for example, very well also for work. That means dam, I can also define it as a bed and divide the form of terror itself.

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Actually, when you are local to the phone works, so all the resources that are created are saved in this state, and this way he knows what the unit should look like after his big day.

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Yes, because I had the case myself with the example that marked hastily gary specified not only that's important as if it was done yesterday with the wrong one and that doesn't seem to work. The prospero from tsc münster, 2.

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Choose completely freely.

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Me I freely chose it yesterday and it is not dresden.

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Az, germany freely selectable, that's just the file where it's stored in it. We can see that in the example for the club too, I can say something else, because.

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It doesn't work on sight, more doesn't work I had to then we want to have that at some.

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Point yes, we can also look at that again. Well, I have with eljero, I have to say, is not so the beginner-friendly terror of the experience and man has also led a lot always has to be copied, or just there are not that many computers in things that, in the sense of what we have here now it just a module. That means a module is actually just a collection of tera from if that means the real data is in here now, I, don't have to rewrite everything.

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I can just use this module's repeatable component, the reusable component and with.

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The mast, the master, would be a bit careful.

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We live the etn, a normal. We also mean canon normal or make it a bit better. You can also use the terror from registry directly and then search for the respective module. So there is for the big heads, because there is always something- and if you now here now, he I think they are listed t.

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Then we can also exchange it. Then we no longer need to state that the option is not under that either. So we could just say: hey that's off the plate from realistic, so the version and the version is a quicker action in the room that will also form enough about terror, as she talks to each individual for the first time. That means the first step that we now, which I would like to take is halfway. We want to somehow get it into the report.

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That means we need it, of course, the well-known clubs- yes, yes you! Fortunately, if you look at the netapp documentation yourself recently,.

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Also, relatively documented, in the documentation also firmly in jubilation that, if we see it now here is another bit everything explained. I 'll go back to this other point here with the terror minute ago. That means hitler asked for time already such a small example strip prepared in the sense here is the following tips.

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What stop in the sense, then, the whole topic from the step stop goes through, because each resource must first remain planned before they are executed the case itself. It must be initialized and it will still be validated for that. We 'll just use the website. I now have a small change here. In that sense, or I did have I have in which we are the times changes on the subject of tf good, because we are now in that sense the terror of gucci have locally directly in the directory. I give the project here.

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That is the only change to the entire sap crm so that we have a bit more time. So now we have these two. If that means we can start. We connect.

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And can now feature everything is very important because otherwise you don't have so much fun.

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I'm if you, if you soon jens den, I won't notice a second time that you, my favorite team audi, but I can keep the write. Then we first have to look at the motti fix and it's just driving.

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But I have a shortcut for alfred and then I type that too sda. So you.

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Can remember, and now I don't have it in the real thing: I also have to push and decentralized.

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So the nice day is here we can take a look at it a bit since that's a new feature that I only saw today for the first time on twitter.com with the dax until now also in aid, something is generally also later. Maybe interesting for terra forms is what I 've already considered is. If we talk about two pipelines, you could use that very well.

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If you want to graduate in several bands take from a monopoly, if you have several terror formula, 1 has supertalent could be used later, that they all run independently in the sense in one repository, because it could be that I'm planning for want to take part in the project plan for the stefan valent and plans for the staging on the wall. Man we're doing it now, but first of all look at the screen.

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What you see here now- and I don't want to get it out, so that means in the sense we don't use terra directly here form itself under phone is actually also called.

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That means, if I accept terra form version here, it comes out like something we use in the sense that kidnapper form, but that is ultimately a small faux pas. You can also find that it is such a small one rapper the stop in the sense that only terra forms us a bit of problems partly easier to use. That means that we have to do all these things that we have to do.

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Therapy terraforming, takes away from us, has made this small piece a big highlight, because we then only have to command the number Now that he's trimmed for the pipeline,. Of course, ,. We can just find out the following season, so it's back again in the meantime now I think the next job had to be done. That means now happens if the date in valley date is there for that. He also looks now in the sense of whether I have described my terror of the fall correctly.

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So it's just very nice that makes lenzing keep on it and can tell me if I have any errors in content or just spelling mistakes so that you can get to them quickly,, but he doesn't check them again if you go bankrupt, the first time,, so that means he doesn't know the resources in which he checks very much,. So now the so-called play, and now we see something actually really happening on the subject of plans.

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The subject of plans is for that now because he says now he would like to invest in what the plus the green are all the resources that want to be created, so in the sense of the aws user. To that you can also look at it again quite well. You can also look at it again next to the case, so in the s Note, that this is the user who is to be created here and then the policies,, the aws rules are also created in the sense of this, and so on.

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This is due to the fact that individual repositories come later ,. So the next thing we have to do now is we have to not there yet. So if we look at the aws ec again like smoke, it's nothing there. Now, of course, we have to do it, and that means we can go back to our pipeline.

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We have here the nice manual step to lead and can stop it in that sense,.

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It just takes a little while until the men start should tell me a little what he.

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Now what I might be able to tell you about this in the meantime, this picture is the smallest one that gives an artifact with about. That is stop the planning table. That is a pure belleri. Where now all the steps are in it that are to be carried out, you could always do it directly with mai ma chen. Then the topic will get the current state of the epi every time ,. That means in the meantime, the plans and the ipad will be trained again.

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If changes have happened and I would then overwrite them again or take note of what I might not want, but I I really just want to get out of the sack. I always have a flash reality.

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Begins, the dance explains, is local and I still have to dress.

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Up more precisely, I still have to be more precise. Now so I have the budget for that. So, if we look at the pipeline again here in the meaning is here with plans, power has already generated its plans file.

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There is a cache file and it is then transferred as an artifact artifacts are here, are always transferred like this with the clip they are always automatically transferred to the next stage over the sea like this That means after picture com,, then, classically,, then test comes promptly,, always picture test,, but since we can, the test age ii will have in the sense that, in the sense of the freedom of who paints here, the genius that means stop. Here we can really only plan.

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Value play offs missed, the herbs are the file, and this.

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Here won, but that takes he, then, because he excludes the part again. So we also see sexy liu here in the sense and we have created our abs resources hand. That means here. You can now see the real things that happened. We just live here all the policies on and so on. When we go back to our ecr, I hope I'm in the right region. Yes, I'm good, we can see our hitler bot now he's also there ours will be streamed in the trailer. You can now continue to use it. Now.

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Can it's natural that the manager will come around the corner and say great that you've already registered such a cool ecr, but we still need a second user of the d ie registry I said: okay, we can do. It is a lot of effort externally. It is always a lot of effort, but of course we are not the effective work. That means we just do it now with the new user, but we take the good old one well-known web edi. My favorite do.

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That means we copy talk, another resource, in that case the djp user, which we maybe more just like that. Then, of course, we use it down here.

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So I hope I have the type in it now and we have to run right away. We make a new user, of course, order the holder to scrap user.

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Yes, that was the I that at least I don't think I don't think anymore. I.

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Myself an own goal today with + voss, let it so that I have first pushed, but he still didn't overwrite his own comics. That was stupid. Now I noticed afterwards that he agrees, so it will be like that Of course. We can now see that internet is starting again,, which means we can expect validated to start for a moment,, but we are actually not interested in how the steps start,.

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We are just waiting to know that it will go through because now the next relatively relaxed one is coming new feature which also plays along at the same time, in the sense.

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What applies from now on also offers by default is just that is, can also display which terra resources are added and which are deleted. That will appear in the same sense, merger christians and then, which resources themselves have changed, and I don't have to go through the whole thing now, because it will be relatively big later because you have a lot of resources, and sometimes I'm just interested in how many. Of course you still have to before you always go bankrupt. Maybe the check again for this,.

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There is also extra tooling on the outside rhalb von hitler. So I could also like to tell you something about how we manage in the team, something with. Of course, I have a mistake somewhere.

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I have the ok now he said. Of course, the plan is really successful. Before I throw eppler recommender now we have to use this guy again fixes. It is missing in the sense that it is always so that we search for resource resource type resource name, and then we can retrieve the objects from the resource, and here the point is currently missing to make the aws resources ag happy back nice.

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To see that I don't the only one in the series makes.

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Mistakes makes mistakes. That's why we're here you learn from mistakes, so it would be boring if I showed you everything, that's directly possible and then thought or it's great. It's all that simple. Unfortunately, there's nothing to fight anymore, but all with our problem.

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Yes- and we have- we have at the time with the isinger dsl, also built his index with point quasi and zuzuzugr to race, eifen or or thick is fast and let's try to explain it in a coherent way and then you do it and think that everything will work. There is a wrong value, burn schwa, don't have the phone on ray and just right.

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I hope now, we've eliminated all the errors. Then you can you want practice? Yes, because I'm not.

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Okay, right about 33 dependent jobs, is that.

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A cvp feature that I think should.

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Be cleared out for everyone. The problem was just that it came too late for the 13 1 acredis in my head and that's it now capcom rolled out. There is also a feedback that is linked there.

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If, if that then looks in person in fabian bump is now quite useful from now on, the visual representation is, of course, only being worked on, so this is really the first attempt, and since now, feedback is more likely in the liner thickness inside, and so that makes a lot.

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With the a100,, I can also say that you then have a zyk lischen grafen then has to look around. Do I have to do a protection plan right now, or do I just have to do staging offline? What do I have to do for it, which plan step do I have to do? That will also help a lot for that, as well as a bit proud and benefited so now. Let's hope I have no more type.

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It takes a moment that.

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Sounds too much, then you can either try it out, live or we'll. Do it honestly.

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Next time we can also set up a whole infrastructure public anyway with city, and everyone is not allowed to change. That's how it is I, think better I hope, I hope, I hope so right now he has made the plan. In that sense, he is showing us here now: hey I. Now something has changed in the sense that a new document is added here. That means for the other user.

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If you now go back to the murger chris picture and I find her now, I will of course do that typical of that you can see nice now too n that works here now and now you can see how many things have been changed, which things have been added by adding them that can help in that sense, also for visualization that actually helps relatively well.

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Yes, so now, actually the new feature in 13.1 what she came in at the same time, I was busy with it a bit. At the same time, then I want to survive. Maybe five minutes again. I think it will unfortunately not work for Ammann and to show again how you can solve it locally works, because it brings my experience, it's useless only if we only have it in the pipeline, we somehow still have to run it locally, but it can also happen that the pipeline works in a similar way.

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You don't just have resources because of that you still have to be able to trade. It a second way and that's why we're going to this now en state. We can theoretically continue to work with it. That means now I 've prepared something small again that fits everything. Let's take it back to the studio coach I have now I'm, also on the road, a bit as a trio have an old made case in that senses and all the steps that have now been taken in the sense of fire. We can now also take locally,.

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That means in an optimal way. It should now be the case that we, in the sense of what is customary for this style type, is the projects I've already abstracted everything a little bit the projects dietrich one very simply now up here. It's the projects. The project idea is on, but to be closed briefly, and that means just like bags. That's why I couldn't promise okay, I didn't say anything can now in that sense assume as terra from the steak that can now in the sense because the pipeline takes in that sense, we then n.

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Takes the project folder here in that sense, and that's the project name right.

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Or lovely look again.

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Ok, that means just jump back now. I can only jump back that way we can now also agree here is a nice must, is you can do it now here? Just do a good old making it then you see a park rangers, but that's not bad will be printed and then blog I'll, initialize, terra from the local and, if I now say its hopefully terra form, because I don't have the current status yet, tf would have to be made small. He now asked about ip pp.

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What is the current status now gets the report storage space in the best case and would then tell me that I have changed a few more parts. Guess he's not going to the right stage right now: project m.

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That's also right, that's also right.

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That has definitely happened before Will I say again for the next time, why it isn't there, but now we have to stop everything as a rule. It will continue technically and I now believe that it's raining louder for me that you can also be local here tariff. Also people can it means. I have the same functionalities that I have in the local sense in the pipeline. I can also locally continue and then the money is always synchronized. At the same time,.

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And that has the great advantage, above all things, Another advantage that is still in here,. Why there is this rocking, is. If several people are now working in parallel on the state,, then a locomotive is always installed,, which means that the changes are gradually introduced,, which means that they can also work in parallel the whole time, because otherwise, if you were to overwrite the state all the time and then all of a sudden, it happens when you get the form connects to several bands, then with one the rather annoying search down with the other.

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The whole thing suddenly falls down, and so on that you can do at the beginning. It happened very often, but with that, you can just do that then you’re in them too. Your that you let several pipelines also run parts if you want everything, a few fans on what yes and that was now so terror from the feature in which you with yes, almost perfect. Thank.

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You would have needed somewhere.

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Concern you are talking to someone who is not at all familiar with terra form only from hearsay, so helped a lot with the Soviet one. There I have to hold myself back because they don’t start tinkering. I have.

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I had to learn, it live from some people, but.

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I'm actually about to write in the blogs,, but that's still to come.

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From a company that will receive a blog post today on our site,.

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Talked about the topic, I have to admit, I don't really read the murger quest from now on and freemasons, then, if, if anything happened, probably had nothing to do with it, he's on a topic has already been and been on a topic last week that policy and governance were also published beautifully in the year.

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So look there then I was happy so for the man who comes to write about I have nothing to do with the time to then get going again and then marcel tried to motivate him his. What was that works according to several something the post rhi trainer can also remain once so everything that is important to him. You can shoot into the blog.

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Well, I saw that niklas marcel in the terror of the blog ticket would have discussed that with each other mean that at that time also a number of examples hearts ago.

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Times no longer a question, wil l shows preliminary round, so I was master of the actually. It is exactly what both were shown. I was shown in the reports. Of course. What's up to date, you really tried the whole thing again for me, of course, nothing else, but platform, the instinctual life and then in another step I use castro, is recognized and draw me a small environment, both big yard, where maybe also make an example with ags so heard just saw but content picture of the commands. He is just exactly what we saw yes, perfect.

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Only then, if there isn't a block house that wrote beautifully, then you can pick it up and say nobody else now, let's do it with the schiller ones. Well, I think a lot of people are interested in that because I wouldn't have known where I should start with stageco next, where the car, so I think it works for a lot of people, but I have to.

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Ducks pretty good anyway, gs I could still go to 18, because there was someone who was a bit exaggerated about where to find the project idea and that wasn't very clear in the documentation. I don't even know where it was changed afterwards. The old one.

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Way is awkward because you stop about general. Was john settings general this exactly and then the boards, the excludes projects.

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This, for a very long time in the interview, I, think.

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It was perceived as so much continuation, that is, it is believe in the last in technically, a lot has happened to rics in the last six months or in the last year,.

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At least that is my impression and you can read and understand some things more. Clearly, I can remind you that you went to rainer wiegard in the projects and were looking for this idea. When a patient taught me the one that wouldn't have worked otherwise was the project after scott pace yesterday,, that's fine and kevin space y in the documentary film just send edith your words and the fright is so we'll manage that.

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Documentary was just the point from.

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Wind energy tepco page, where can I, find the projects, and that was next to the old picture.

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Maybe the cash back it up and you don't get used to it, but you don't have something like talkeasy clarity and you can change your projects briefly to quer- and bin and then don't have to adapt the scripts,.

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Even then, it works directly from repository transfer,. Of course, there are always errors used again. Individual repository.

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Knows me tried it myself for you.

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So it on the manuscript, which is now also mostly rebuilt, that in the header so again don't let go that showed everything is declared and then it is used by the customer and if he then renames something and has to go now stem repository name or finally dead. Then that happened once ambient va riables that are read out.

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There schmidt found something interesting on twitter, where people started to discuss.

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It is in this story- and I now know how best to get in, but I think I would just have thrown the ball to carinthia and yes, yes, I.

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Looked for the blockbuster in the.

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Twitter post again for a short while the whole thing started from patrick de buhr, initially pronounces it. I hope the game where he describes it will be more whether stories of the family top stories regarding in desktops on thursday lament was answered. The bit anna-maria I like to answer because someone yes and finally hobby from last week, because the topic is generally very interesting,, then something could be added to our ebel banks that I now gl I. Also think it's good that you generally discuss the topic.

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From my point of view, federal ops topic from the whole jacob's bit,, giving the impetus to discuss how our work has actually changed in the last few years.

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From my point of view, anyway, in the Rhine swimming blog post, everyone has actually already written me in with a smiley. It's that the ops direction is shifting. So, according to the motto, I can of course, also confirm in the case now. Yes, since wanting to get close to someone now is as if you already have it by now also saved a lot to do or also bring a lot of work in his daily job.

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Java are like us that we have the whole page. What there your opinion, I.

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Actually meant it the other way round, with a wink that the developers now whether they have to do it or need it so poor around. But it's interesting how wanted to have exercised the background was to put it. That way is that he actually started as a developer during his studies and then through the cantos student dormitory. We also benefited as masters of the network and got to know us and linux, and then at the university of vienna, with dns and and other stories where it was a bit fruitful, got to know him.

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I don't have a dom scorsese. Now, it's four weeks time to read a book and, and then I realized at some point. That's quite fun and my tiger is so begins monitoring solutions. We tell stories, and then it's like that the network is installed and how it is operated and water animals this so on and so forth, and my impression is that it is now independent of desktops and there is already a lot of fear.

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That is much more important for developers to understand how the systems tick in the background and what a difference that makes,, whether the macbook is now running but is still in production as exotic and what,, for example. Location performance is all the stories, but here you can judge them, because the costs will probably cover.

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You too, its corresponding also from the development 1st decimal point and then I'm not really good at it. I've always been interested in it and actually I 've always had that understanding. Actually you have to be responsible for it. So if you write the software, you have to do a lot of it and how you operate it that should n’t really interest every software developer, because at the end of the day the customer doesn’t have time for us to code nicely.

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The customer is currently writing that it works at ibm or, if you also pay for one or the customers who use the product as well as if it works, and that means you have to know the group chain. Somehow you don't have to go into detail Then there 's specialization,, but in general it should be clear to everyone, or just like that that some responsibilities are also changing a bit. And now you have to say that we received this gift today, five or not eight years ago, that container government,, I.e.

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packaging of software,, has simply become a lot easier than the site was on fire, and that is now actually no one that he is not willing to be. My excuse for hardware loyalty. So if the 2 0 still comes from a development issue, because it is now these systems- and it is also often used,, especially when we are talking about standard software or of web applications after tino- there are special applications where it might not be that easy.

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I wouldn't deny that it's always the other case, but for the most part, because I have a lot of web applications and also has standard applications. In that sense, I think already that the so how I would I say it differently, so I think we're coming n simply from software development or in general how software works these days ,. We are now coming out of the hobby basement or have come out of the hobby basement too slowly, and we are now in industrialization,, which means the processes for everything you can actually manufacture everything automatically.

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And then you come you still on the content to which content is just.

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Packed yes, exactly the point failed in the last few weeks has already been discussed, but well it is after peace insofar as it has been developed further for years. Among other things, you know the number has already become more transparent. 3 was more about it. Was there before it was kind of like I left an unclear box that it's in there to operate. It is easy to hear. Unfortunately, the concert is more in containers or has become containers, and that's why it was easier to deploy yes,, but that doesn't mean more or is actually d.

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He advantage that it is now the case that the software as safe simply improve the outlook. That means, for the first time, often developers. Yes, they come from other corners, yes from optics certain things then have to know or how should he, so? How will it open at all accessed the application and don't pretend people at service and at the customer is, but today can berliner, generates its development plugged in I'm just not a video. So if you're not at the customer's, the ost uses anchor what they did with it forever.

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The software was built, he should himself someone is using this easynet of the playground, but it is no longer of any use. The periods always hot days has to be able to deliver software. It always has months, be stop there.

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Go hours 5 we can the in the youtube stream musical infrastructure is revealed. Progress is not.

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Differentiated for new.

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Construction, and thus you also need a way that the sites assembled them are.

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Reproducible are assembled so just the reproducibility and on the subject, you wanted the job center, god the reproducibility. Yes, you have now anja rolle in the environment of the victim. Much further used hey if everyone can somehow understand what is actually being constructed. I also.

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Think that what has changed is perhaps too much. If you quote a little more now, ,, not just saying the last ten years,, so I also have to say what has changed fundamentally is like he said, with jubilation in sweaty, but there there are also the technological things that you no longer have to make large investments,.

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So anyone can simply sit down with us for 20 cents,, so you use the band- aid,, try two three things: if you want to try them out, once, don’t want to see long-term results and then throw them away like that. That means earlier was e s before you could even start an ebit. You had to buy machines that you could use somehow, and that was already heard by many, that, just as there is now more and more material, more and more people are using the internet.

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Well, spa wrote it's getting more and more growing up learning methods are only with bowling and possibilities, cloud and growing, and what and where yes and first city really interesting, www.focus.de conny double with hard part in the open nature in belek in he already has the station that the difficult thing is now for many, the.

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What now, then we have to do everything already there I think I have at least the relatively long time we are on the road with him a lot more experience, and this many experiences in the nineties basically worked out and in keeping our heads saved children, but is school difficult for young colleagues. The nights were more because I try to stay there.

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Sometimes it's local, every 20 minutes to tera form, abs and sometimes the registry, and do this and that and work with db and with apps and continue with stage everything more or less like daily bread. But there hanging on the radio making summer nights was of course, That's exactly how I wouldn't have to understand it in detail,, but at least he should first know what the vote depends on today, yes,. It is difficult now because the abstraction in the event of an error then, is back there, yes,.

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If you are not there,, the problem is much.

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Bigger, I would have that.

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Team must, I would have said the theater celebrates so that the points are again markus katja is works, so the drinking water is completely clear that.

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We that is just experience, yes, I think, but, as I said, it is a bit about at the moment so that you keep people yes increase.

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The sense that you can now use things more easily, you don't have to have achieved these things and be able to do them or something similar. The one could have hurt. Everyone could have the beauty.

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The possibilities of trying definitely very important friday has become much broader. Absolutely yes, but in spite of everything he to find what one yes or, as we are all now discussing, acquisition of nico bastian great whole homburg, found great trick with it is a two or three little things.

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The 23-year-old,, which later will definitely drive many to despair, then with a corner yes,, because today the story is completely new, where the projects are. How can it be is clear to us, yes and completely clear that we will fly afterwards I'm already on vacation somewhere, it wasn't a problem, but for others that's why? But I.

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Think that's what I noticed what we already said. In essence, the difference is now there are n't, just two big providers or there's just a second one. Now there are just a lot of tools and you have a certain problem domain and you can en two tools as the adapt that help you or not, and unfortunately you may have to find out a bit about that yourself. That's just the thing a bit like and that's the problem that everyone has.

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So they would have a generalization I think then it would always be fun at the end of the day or some things will also or some people just don't have these problems. I don't know. Are that big or get such technical problems at some point, because they maybe only have one or two servers or just having that you still have to see it in relation, but I always find a good sentence that is no longer always ready in my head.

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That I just from the sli book by I, want to talk about google today, but I think that's always a good sentence that actually makes it relatively clear to me. Why we have to make things easier for other people, so that means karl kaiser from google once said for human operating system june enormous operations he hid, please destroy on enormous change. Is s t systems happy? That means all things that we have to reintegrate manually in the sense that we will only do standard activities. We have to shut down the server right now.

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So not the extreme situation book from me. Usually then always talk, that's just then she works on it again compo distant times. There don't have that much to prescribe other things that are there well.

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Checking that's why there are now the nice ones. Job title that prevails today has seen motto: mission engineer: that's.

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Also, a detox engineer and you.

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're not considering it.

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Trouble shooting engineer so the.

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Is still haunted with a heavy head and the people have forgotten how to troubleshoot that's natural ch, a little bit based on experience, but a lot of questions you have, while trying out the google are upside down so again niklas they are nice made, but so this this entry for many better to the end or tomatis, how I bake something like marita troubleshooting? Why is in that easy stack trace in there, and I do n't understand that you had to crush the stack trace's head and then recognize the error message.

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That's what I believe him, because we live such fast technology that gets lost and there are fewer heads that think about it, thinking how to write. Troubleshooting docu, how to say if you see the animals this one fine and net writes just makes you try to make it easier. This is a topic that is close to my heart, but you found luca a solution for it like that. The best way.

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Is that I believe that the problem is that we just want to do troubleshooting that I st already a certain kind of descendants belly meanwhile to know how the systems are connected? So is the mario said before that he did it like that with the terra fauna, aws, that's so many particles in amberg. If one of them doesn't work or doesn't work, the way it usually works. Nature is good for you, as an inexperienced quotation mark.

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So it's relatively difficult if you were and which points can or must be used or via sms, it's nice when marco becomes short, that's the beginning, where you can use them to proceed. Yes , do not reduce it at all. If you use one of these parts because the documentation is, for example,, perhaps a bit older,, it then works several times as it is in the documentation, for example, there, and there.

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From my point of view, the problem that it does exactly that on the subject of troubleshooting then do not know and which points can and must be used at all e then take the next step. That's definitely.

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Almost always the situation there.

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That's exactly.

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All what Halligen said, that's what we notice with our young colleague, from my point of view, he has no problem at all with this technology and himself so a lot of her fuchstal without without problems something in he but troubleshooting. It is somehow that is somehow like before. Yes, where the major distributor tells the son how to send out states, he cuts because it doesn't stop from either I, don't think anything of the street demands. That is somehow yes, skill, marketability.

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He once said yes, how does morocco read or what is analogue in general more important, because the documentation should not be of a four strings, but the subscription is yes. What you look at is the planned fly like and where something, what letter children on the monitor? How do you even recognize the relevant points in a documentary?

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? ch like you, when you get stuck read the same as he says, has that 's an exercise like that you actually have to withdraw the teacher in the mass of information. That's relevant.

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Now, just going to continue, if you can are in china him sitting in there that they can still take place. So now, no idea, that's more like saying good tobacco, he opens a ticket for it and, of course you have that now that it's like it's not paradise, it says two blocks extra trend and we have it open. The main actors back then are clarifying who two orphanages, publish stack, trace, gets as an exception interviews, plus articles for it and at some point they annoyed you and will do so in order to someday be certain.

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Oh, so our logo sucks so with 1 world champion, has better than district town attract than back. Then it was n't there, yet so jason and pasta and forbid, and the annoying things like that that were just in the children, shoes, 20, 13 around or 20 protect, so we tried to catch. The exceptions are subject to the lure to release. Problem is sometimes that I got the code out, but you have to be the developer. You also have the experience, of course, to then have e.g.

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login students to build or to make education performance easier to measure. So it's definitely growing clusters now, no idea how to do it, so they told me there's no documentation, but today you have to combine ten different things. Is the cover or find github and then hosting worked and afterwards or while you are writing. You first come to kato, while that you tried it out and the sense of achievement. That must also be documented.

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That is what I believe have in mind or or many find it difficult to get there and they are the people. You know, listen and then tell other colleagues that you keep that in mind and say it s, don't just lose it solve the problem for me, for example,, but in him someone else under hand and that's like my dad were or my student who then just carries it on that. You know that today can't be negotiated.

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Like me, I think that's I.

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've ever so, I think it's just that it's just a bit. Can that also a bit of mindset like I said at the beginning? You don't have to understand everything, but at some point you have the freedom, but you still need a relatively high basic basis so that you can just develop things like that. So how does the browser actually work to call up such a website, so it’s also not solved also on, and then something happens there for as long as never no.

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But how does it work when we’re in the elevator and does it work on a bit? How does it work a bit pia? So everything then together, because it's stories it's j, a also the same. If you come from mathematics or in mathematics, it's like that too. It was never enough just to learn the forms by heart. That's good! He doesn't have anything, it's like the documentary. It can stand as beautifully as you hold yourself.

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You can't interpret it yourself, then you can't use it at the end of the day and I think you have to- and that's just you but the very important point. We actually always have is just we have to keep learning. That means you can I today knowing everything when we want to know everything. The men are just too big for that, but you always have to challenge yourself to new things, and then I was able to take smaller steps to get there at some point. You can also solve more problems.

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The question is: how can you here I also said at the beginning? How can you take these small steps in the sense of how can I learn to be dry or how can I just s achen halt under which the actually systemic and systemic procedure or a methodology at the end of the day,.

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Yes, it is again a skill that you can or should or must give to people if you can or must pass it on to others, because they have either written. I rarely eat much. Do you eat today, all the information you need. You read more and at the point, because everyone has certain comes from a certain point that when he writes something documented blog book, he writes something that he goes it at certain points that everyone does somewhere from their point of view.

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Meanwhile stood a bit and the art again with another idea or with the problem of monsters at the point, also listen to the topic, and you have to it's. Just the greatest skill ability is just relatively quickly a lot of information from different sources with the bad quality,, especially in paris, people, know the whole thing in their heads. There is a need to put your head down because you look at maybe 80 percent, of which you can make progress yourself.

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Yes, write everything down with children, aware of every eventuality software have meanwhile set can achieve, I think, hopeless. Although.

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I think you can do a little bit on the two levels. So with every team, for example, I have to say that they are doing really, really well.

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In addition, that an.

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Source could also be noticed. Is there are some who are relatively young, then I might not tell him the big problems with amazon and telephone, for example, day to come because they just quickly understand, but as far as the problems then run and it's about the infrastructure there,, it pays off te, for example, again the good intel, because I then notice quite often that ok for it are completely off, conversely,.

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For me personally, I now even find his based that I revealed exactly this is shooting and that you really still with him physical had and seven and pulling cables and something else started at some point.

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Dartmann kaster himself had everything under his thumb that in the end, it's just a big advantage and it's just super valuable for your studies.

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I would just say that, for you too, I didn't start at this point in time, but I have to say I'm relatively happy that I just product is still 10, was already with a printer from other herbs and was therefore able to grow the whole container, and the problem is what we unfortunately have now I think that's when you have an older company under your ears.

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There are people who have quite reached me at the moment, but that half the other world outside of this company is three steps further, and I have to what I also see as a real addiction problem, for me is just this twitter bubble. Dieter bubble is simply very dangerous. When there are people, the solution has problems. You have to have fire yourself or you don't even know it. If you don't have these problems somehow and I think it's always so funny.

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I have that read a sign on twitter and that's how it's sometimes done everyone just like kuwait. It's like high school six, everyone talks about it, but only a few really do it and I think that's a lot of talking about a lot of things. I thought about it. Instead of just doing it or really always did it ,, but it.

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Says they were very precise at the time konya sign more than that which helped us massively that we said yes to our colleagues. That was what happened when scanning said, like you do with a talk, this jobs approach, this use of automation is from the beginning and not to start manually it then he currently the people the to show colleagues to colleagues where something needs to be changed. Yes, to then definitely achieve the result. An automation of the ifd is extremely much further away because I have it all somewhere in pipelines or somewhere.

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We have stands in infrastructure. Scoach stands the people can then the colleagues the position to understand that somehow also to read myself wasn't anyone somewhere based on that today can has to because he had better way in his head. Yes, so they currently benefit the most from the fact that we stop ourselves and everything has this treatment. Not me, don't know everything anymore. Why too much, and he can look it up sen, how it works always inherit china, that’s why you actually have to invent machines should always tell us to stop getting closer.

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Is always the same thing? Something is exhibited or something is done. Yes, that never brings me a situation, okay, what really works, but it can, let's see how it can work, learn from it, how it works and was able to find it easier after the error.

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This is definitely over.

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I have so personally, I have a bit of the problem sometimes so I would always like to automate everything, but sometimes the first step is the automation. Unfortunately, the wrong.

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Thing to do then on when he is than first try the reds to see if a prototype works, how and then I can rather take care of it to see how set again robert riedl at the end of the day. That sometimes has this double-edged sword. What you train, of course, and I believe that this write that ever Now in some code or somehow small programs do that that helps, because we actually have a lot more parts that we have to manage a lot for them and that's a fact.

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We used to have a lot of hardware parts. Now, it's not just that. We're very. We see a lot of hardware parts here, sometimes,, as has already been said,, since the ticket hotline is no longer physically there,, you know,, but you should actually only have an isolated process somewhere on a real sheet of metal and then maybe three or four software is running there.

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Layers on not only 34 is a few more so 20 30 story about it and if you're unlucky, you have to go through all the layers at some point would not be a very nice problem today. Christ and that's the thing I think I have to try to analyze and also to take the time so experience doesn't come from the fact that I told you haye now. The problem is the result, ends in three steps and then he has exactly the same thing. That comes over time.

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That means you sometimes have to give people the freedom to make mistakes, and you have to learn from them again. Was you don’t learn from mistakes from things that just work properly and That's? Also a problem with how I think you can train or just do- gooders,? So you have to make cutbacks by making that you lose the velo city,, but in the end the return on investment will be higher overall, test out men.

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Are again like that, christa maria rain wrote to maybe get back to the tweet to.

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With that's just down to the people have in some people who are just involved around that no idea, the junior developer, who stands by the side today and content, tries to pass it on that knowledge. But experience is more important until know less about the experienced.

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Nobody can tackle something like that and also so well and correctly so cost great that you allow that mistakes happen and that you then also work through them together and say: okay, look like this and like that, you would have known it solve it differently or no idea that you just help in the younger ones and then just stand there and he shoots.

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Eight hits and the service also said back then that today everything that occurs has somehow been commented on and two sisters will only be in the respective it's in here he 's standing and maybe a little big pressure you're making it's at least here it's written what happened that, but it's really noticeable to me in the last two or three years, where we've also been members of kant band bord.

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Meanwhile, it really makes a difference already- apologies expression over because at least there is now already because yes has noted d, he massively helps not only me, something that was a research object at the time,, but has the colleagues who then I can’t always look into it already? Know, ok has already given something in the direction of what had he and he done now,, just that that helps massively it 's, not a super documentary.

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It might be a new screenshot, but that might help one or the other to get further and to shape the event problem again. But, as I said, the people have to be filled to do this and with the to go along with the change. It believes the most important points.

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I would like to continue the arc exciting for next week in the small exercise. Maybe everyone has their package out of the sewing box story where it comes to mentoring or shooting or just best practice troubleshooting for the topic of ex history, or how did you document things so with me pop march, of course, a thousand things a die bissinger m al, the baghdad.

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Maybe if you record that for next week as a motto rock as a topic and next to maybe a bit of terraforming sounds good sounds bad. Maybe.

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A one in advance- I have, I wouldn't anticipate now. My experience is just, unfortunately with documentation the documentation from the leader at some point.

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If it is static, it is at some point so open that you can no longer use it because then there are even worse errors than before a lot that I had simply changed around it. That 's, why you need it? That's why we actually have it in the monastery, in my opinion, a bit that we have such a living documentation that I can also run this documentation directly, because then it is just a great added value. So.

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That what is now recognized with documentation and the whole thing is then written, as it has already been said that now these automated parts are properly operated because you finally have to press somewhere from the club so that something is executed that doesn't happen automatically ,. But someone with brain power had to sit in front of it and say recognize now: I want to be, and at the end of the day, have more and have no idea 20 fields to fill out from some script, environment, variables or or or or just the starting point.

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That's also I think for the automatisms, then a corresponding documentation. That then explains what this automatism.

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Does yes, you can take screenshots.

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Logged in I had I could be in the water for hours topic chatting. But I would like to say at the moment, because of today and for next week there is in the ticket or interviews case scenario where you already know something like that, because we want to learn from each other. And that is the most important thing for us that we do what we do next connect week and there is then maybe the micro and the other workers.

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Super fits,, then I, hope you understand, apparently, and see you next week.