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A
Okay,
so
we're
not
going
to
go
through
all
the
slides
look.
We
have
in
the
past
there's
just
a
couple
of
items
we
want
to
highlight.
So
the
kind
of
star
first
defend
is
continuing
to
grow.
The
team
has
actually
doubled
since
the
last
time.
We
had
a
conversation
so
with
that
there's
not
some
dedicated
channels,
as
well
as
a
dedicated
playlist
on
YouTube
for
all
the
features
I'm
gonna
hand
over
to
Wayne
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
new
team
changes
as
well.
So.
B
I
want
to
welcome
to
the
team,
Jonathan
Arthur,
Zamir,
Lindsey
and
Daniel,
and
we've
also
updated
this
slide
to
make
it
accurate
as
well
to
welcome
team
and
the
defend
team
is
growing,
as
we
mentioned
last
time
is
we've
hired
a
good
number
of
folks.
We
have
big
hiring
goals
as
well
for
getting
both
back-end
engineers
back
in
engineering
managers
and
front-end
engineers,
and
also
a
product
manager.
B
So
if
you're,
you
know
folks
that
are
looking,
please
send
them
our
way,
especially
if
they
have
security
or
experience
or
security
interest
and
for
back
end
Ruby
on
Rails
or
go
experience
for
front-end
kind
of
standard.
But
we
look
for
front-end
engineers.
We've
got
their.
You
know
the
headcount
friends
and
applications
per
month,
which
we
saw
a
good
increase
out
in
in
the
last
month.
Yeah.
A
A
C
A
That's
a
great
question.
So
what
we're
currently
looking
at
using
today
is
open,
vas,
so
being
able
to
scan
and
identify
in
fingerprint
items.
I
have
used
a
map
in
the
past
and
I
believe
right
before
Sam
went
out
on
his
paternity.
We
also
discussed
potentially
using
an
map.
I
will
take
the
note
that
we
should
look
at
flan
scan
as
well
as
an
option,
but
right
now
we're
looking
at
something
that's
more
tenable,
like
NASA
psych,
for
the
vulnerability
management,
cool.
C
A
A
A
What
I'm
saying
coming
out
this
quarter?
I
should
say
this
quarter
said
so
this
quarter.
We
have
the
nbc4
intrusion
prevention
and
for
container
network
security.
Don't
really
manage
it's
not
in
this
quarter,
so
it's
a
little
bit
low
in
the
priority
to
make
sure
it's
been
updated,
but
it's
gonna
be
updated.
This
quarter,
okay,.
C
A
I
can
do
that
and
I'll
try
to
keep
it
short
and
high
level,
but
please
ask
additional
questions
so,
in
the
case
of
something
like
an
map
and
map
is
very
good
at
fingerprinting
the
environment,
so
identifying
are
there
services
up
or
ports?
Are
they
on
more
details
about
them?
Like
hey,
that's
a
nginx
version.
X,
you
know
service
or
hey
I,
see
fusion
passenger
running
inside
your
rails.
Deployment,
where
is
open?
Bass
goes
a
little
bit
beyond
that.
A
In
fact,
both
both
nmap
I'm,
sorry,
both
necess
and
open
bass,
can
leverage
and
map
to
do
their
initial
discovery,
but
in
my
experience
at
least
necess
and
open
bass
of
a
larger
library
of
identifiers
to
be
able
to
say,
hey,
that
is
this
service,
and
it's
vulnerable
to
these
eight
or
ten
or
one
vulnerabilities,
I.
Think
and
map
is
a
great
tool.
B
To
add
to
that
is
that
tools
like
open
bass
and
necess
not
only
scan
at
the
network
layer,
so
you
know
and
map
things
like
it.
Fine,
what
assets
are
there?
What
IP
addresses
are
live,
what
ports
are
open
on
them
and
will
try
to
enter
Phi?
What
services
are
running
and
versioning
things
like
open
bass
and
necess
will
actually
attack
those
services
over
the
network
to
see
what
they're
actually
vulnerable
to
and
those
tools
also
open
bass
and
necess.
A
A
Yes,
we've
actually
have
several
customers
who
have
tried
it
out
and
given
us
feedback,
the
one
thing
that
I'd
say
was
very
a
very
good
learning
experience,
as
part
of
that
is
how
we
define
minimal.
So
in
general,
we
define
as
being
able
to
show
direction
on
where
we're
going
for,
but
in
the
case
of
the
laughs
we
basically
then
just
did
deploy
it
inside
everybody's
containers
when
they
upgraded
it's
supposed
to
be
in
detect
only
mode,
but
we
had
several
customers
who
started
reporting,
traffic
being
blocked
and
the
yeah
exactly
said
so.
A
We're
discussing
how
to
document
this
experience
and
then
update
the
handbook
to
show
that
you
know
maybe
one
NB
C
does
not
equal
minimal
maturity,
because
maybe,
when
we're
getting
into
things
that
can
actively
take
impact
on
people's
traffic,
we
may
want
them
to
be
able
to
shut
it
off
from
our
UI
or
at
least
see
the
logs
from
our
UI
to
know.
What's
going
wrong,
whereas
you
know
the
workaround
required
them
to
kind
of
use,
escalated
privileges
to
get
in
and
understand
what
was
going
on.
Oh
and.
A
There's
something
in
the
roll
set,
so
we
thought
we
had
applied
a
detect
only
rule
set,
but
the
rule
set
had
something
that
was
blocking
traffic
and
the
example.
I
remember,
which
is
again
a
good
learning
experience
was
things
like
mod
security,
also
limit
size
of
transaction
as
a
part
of
protecting
the.
D
A
C
E
C
Regarding
maturity,
I
have
a
proposal
or
I'm
suggesting
to
Scott
that
we
shouldn't
define
maturity
as
like.
We
think
this
is
XYZ.
We
should
say
we
should
survey
the
customers
asked
for
their
kind
of
Net,
Promoter
Score
of
of
a
certain
category
and
then
based
on
where
we
fall.
That
is
apparently
the
maturity.
So
take
that
from
a
decision
that
we
make
to
a
decision,
our
users
and
customers
make
I.
A
F
That's
a
great
change
if
I
could
ask
a
question
so
when
you,
when
you
do
that,
wouldn't
it
depend
on
the
size
of
the
company
right,
so
what
works
for
an
SMB
company
is
gonna
be
completely
different
than
a
large
enterprise.
So
would
you
add
a
layer
of
basically
size
of
company
with
that
NBC
I?
Think.
C
We've,
that
is
a
thing
that
we
tend
to
go
to,
and
we
even
had
that
for
our
pricing
model.
But
what
we've
learned
in
our
pricing
model
that
that
was
absolutely
not
the
case
in
very
big
enterprise-e
companies.
We
had
people
using
not
very
advanced
in
their
DevOps,
using
only
minimal
features
and
for
SMB
companies.
C
They
a
like
use
all
our
features
day
using
epics
and
the
most
advanced
things
now
also
examples
to
the
country,
but
I
think
we
need
to
get
out
of
the
mindset
enterprises
to
advance
things
as
a
be
don't
do
it
advanced
things
for
forget,
lab
adoption,
it's
frequently
even
the
reverse,
so
I
don't
think
it.
It
should
have
a
bearing
on
that
it's
by
the
way.
This
is
a
very
common
thing
to
suspect
and
I.
C
D
A
A
C
Nobody's
raising
questions
so
the
countdown
those
who
work
the
never
in
the
history
of
get
lab.
Has
anybody
asked
a
question
during
the
countdown,
so
we
might
as
well
not
do
them,
but
I
loved
the
that
the
defending
is
now
like
a
defend
group
is
getting
up
to
steam.
It's
awesome
to
see
the
roadmap
for
the
next
couple
of
releases,
so
great
work
we're
right
on
track.
Thank.