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A
Hey
all
and
welcome
to
the
all
remote
group
conversation
for
june
16th
2021..
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
today.
The
agenda
doc,
where
you
can
add
questions,
is
in
the
calendar,
invite
as
well
as
a
link
to
our
slides
with
updated
results,
as
well
as
the
state
of
remote
work,
which
has
been
evolving
quite
rapidly.
As
you
might
imagine,
so,
I'm
I'm
in
the
agenda
doc.
I
don't
see
any
typed
questions
yet,
but
folks
are
welcome
to
verbalize
and
we
can
document
in
real
time.
B
A
A
So
in
current
times
you
would
lobby
for
a
skyscraper
or
this
large
corporate
to
come
in
bring
a
physical
building,
which
would
then
bring
jobs
which
would
then
bolster
the
tax
base,
but
going
forward
you
take
a
look
at
tulsa,
oklahoma
and
tulsa
remote.
That's
a
great
example
they're.
Instead
optimizing
for
building
great
green
spaces,
great
medical,
centers,
great
facilities
that
can
serve
all
people
and
then
inviting
people
to
bring
themselves
and
their
careers
to
the
place
and
what
is
more
sustainable
about
this
is
even
when
the
person
changes
jobs,
they
change
careers.
A
A
A
That
is
the
kind
of
power
that
could
be
unlocked
from
this
instead
of
having
to
fly
across
country.
Whenever
treatment
is
needed,
they
can
walk
across
the
street
dramatic
changes.
I
also
think
for
people
who
love
the
typical
meccas
of
the
world,
london,
san
francisco,
singapore.
I
think
their
quality
of
life
will
improve
as
well,
because
imagine
if
you
are
working
remotely
but
still
living
in
one
of
these
big
cities,
you're
now
competing
with
fewer
people
in
fewer
places
when
they
could
just
be
working
remotely
anyway.
A
So
in
theory,
the
quality
of
the
experience
even
in
cities,
should
improve
and
taken
to
the
furthest
extreme.
When
you
look
at
places
that
have
housing
crises,
many
of
the
people
who
call
that
place
home
have
been
displaced.
They
can
no
longer
afford
to
live
there
because
of
this
influx
of
largely
the
tech
community
that
are
moving
there,
primarily
for
a
job,
so
if
they
exit-
and
they
continue
working
in
that
career.
In
theory,
it
allows
room
for
those
who
were
displaced
to
move
back
in
now.
A
It
will
take
a
long
time
for
this
to
happen,
but
you're
you're
already
seeing
glimpses
of
that.
I
also
want
to
mention
one
other
thing.
While
I
have
the
mic
here,
there
has
been
much
said
about
the
death
of
commercial
real
estate,
but
I've
already
seen
a
few
facilities
that
were
stood
up
to
be
offices,
they're
in
progress
for
converting
to
apartments,
and
so
people
are
very
adaptable,
we're
very
smart
and
in
cities
where
housing
crises
already
existed,
repurposing
office
space
for
apartments
can
actually
solve
that
issue
as
well.
C
Thanks
darren,
I
think
I
have
the
next
question.
The
agenda
slide.
That's
linked
mentions
a
bullet
near
the
bottom
that
I'm
sort
of
pulled
to
or
drawn
to,
and
it
says
where
we
need
your
support,
but
then
I
didn't
necessarily
see
where
the
natural
coinciding
was
within
the
later
slides.
So
is
it
pointing
to
slide
20
about
get
lab
team
members
being
remote
advocates
I.e
on
social
talking
about
it
word
of
mouth
or
is
there
another
spot?
We
can
help
contribute.
A
Yeah
great
feedback
on
that
we'll
try
to
make
it
clearer.
In
theory,
I'd
love
for
everyone
to
be
a
remote
advocate,
there's
only
so
much.
This
team
can
do
to
evangelize
this
message
to
the
world
and
get
these
assets
out
to
leaders
and
companies
that
are
in
real
time
drafting
blueprints
for
what
their
future
of
work
looks
like.
So
our
goal
is
to
equip
people
with
the
key
messages.
The
presentation
decks.
A
D
Yeah
I'll
sort
of
echo
that
we
are
trying
to
think
of
ourselves
doing
more
enablement
and
we're
trying
to
create
a
lot
of
content.
That's
super
shareable,
so
we
have
all
sorts
of
things
like
presentation.
Decks
are
just
one
example.
We
also
have
reports
that
are
super
media
friendly
and
super
shareable.
We've
been
creating
a
little
bit
of
social
media
friendly
content,
and
all
of
that
is
there,
and
so,
if
you
would
like
to
be
more
active
in
talking
about
remote
work,
we've
tried
to
make
that
possible
for
you.
D
So
you
can
come
to
us
and
ask.
We
also
have
things
in
the
handbook
and
we
are
really
happy
to
help
people
get
to
that
place.
If
you'd
like
to
be
an
advocate
for
remote
work
on
your
own
channels,
that
would
be
wonderful
for
us
spreading
the
message
sort
of
takes.
All
of
us.
We
do
our
best.
Daryn
is
obviously
an
amazing
evangelist
and
so
is
betsy.
So,
if
you'd
like
to
join
in
that
conversation
with
them,
we
would
love
it.
E
Also,
a
more
immediate
action
item
that
we
could
use
help
with
is
we
have
an
awesome
event
coming
up
on
june
29th
and
we
would
love
your
help
spreading
the
word
about
it.
A
lot
of
you
have
already
done
that,
and
we
really
appreciate
it.
I'm
going
to
pop
in
the
agenda
a
slack
message
that
I
sent
out
this
week.
A
Awesome
I'll
add
one
bit
of
context
there
we're
in
this
amazing
era
where
much
of
the
world,
especially
the
mainstream
worlds
outside
of
the
fringes
of
the
devops
space,
now
associate,
get
lab
in
their
own
mental
vernacular
with
the
term
remote.
So
this
is
an
amazing
opportunity
to
reach
audiences
that
may
be
outside
of
our
product
scope
and
resonate
with
them
with
something
that
is
universally
applicable
future
of
work.
A
Future
of
living,
even
folks
who
aren't
even
in
the
workforce
anymore,
are
impacted
by
their
loved
ones
or
their
kids
or
grandkids
being
able
to
work
more
flexibly
and
spend
more
time
with
them.
So
this
is
a
a
very
mainstream
type
of
story
and
we're
trying
to
do
all
we
can
to
enable,
as
many
of
the
gitlab
team
members
to
spread
the
message.
While
the
world
has
an
appetite
for
this,
an
increased
appetite,
I
should.
F
So
up
until
a
couple
of
days
ago,
the
main
narrative
I
was
hearing
in
mainstream
media
was
hey
companies
watch
out.
If
you
don't
continue
to
allow
your
teams
to
work,
remote,
you're
going
to
lose
them,
and
that
is
based
on
lots
of
different
survey
data,
so
that
makes
sense,
there's
all
of
a
sudden,
a
new
narrative
of
just
the
past
couple
of
days.
A
A
I
was
on
abc
7
in
the
bay
area
last
week,
and
I
said,
institutional
power
is
not
easily
relinquished,
and
that's
really
at
the
core
of
this
and,
of
course,
the
comma
after
that
is
neither
are
individual
freedoms,
and
so
that's
the
friction.
You
feel
you
have
this
institutional
power
where
everything
has
been
built
based
on
work
working
in
this
way,
folks
made
five-year
plans
five
years
ago,
assuming
that
office
space
would
be
used
exactly
the
same
way.
A
Humans
by
default
are
going
to
be
afraid
of
change,
especially
large
entities
like
government
will
generally
look
through
the
lens
of
fear
instead
of
opportunity,
and
our
message
has
always
been
calming
the
chaos
framing.
This
through
the
lens
of
opportunity,
and
not
shying
away
from
the
drawbacks,
we
actually
have
a
complete
guide
within
the
handbook
that
we
we
update
on
the
drawbacks
of
remote,
but
the
pros
so
far
outweigh
the
cons,
so
we're
trying
to
evangelize
that
not
downplay
the
downsides
but
focus
on
the
positives.
A
The
other
thing
that
we're
leaning
into
is
hybrid
flight.
So,
while
this
is
all
happening,
what
is
also
happening
is
companies
who
are
forcing
their
employees
back
into
the
office
are
seeing
people
opt
out
of
that
job,
and
this
is
an
extremely
interesting
time,
because
there
are
very
few
moments
in
history
where
jobs
data,
where
we
see
large
unemployment,
the
power
is
in
the
hands
of
the
people.
So
now,
if
you
see
those
numbers
going
up,
you're
thinking
wow
instead
of
companies
opting
to
hire
less,
it's
actually
people
opting
to
take
a
different
approach.
A
D
Yeah,
I
do.
I
have
a
couple
of
things
on
this
point.
This
is
super
interesting
and,
first
of
all,
the
uk
is
an
interesting
case.
I
actually
spent
some
time
with
some
research
recently
that
was,
I
think,
put
out
by
the
labor
board
or
the
labor
organization
in
the
uk.
One
thing
that
they
found
was
that
during
the
pandemic,
people
who
were
working
from
home
were
working
longer
hours
and
receiving
fewer
bonuses
and
fewer
promotions.
D
So
I
think
we
have
to
pay
attention
to
the
specific
experience
of
people
who
are
working
from
home
in
the
uk
and
that
that
may
have
been
a
more
negative
experience.
That
may
be
something
that's
sort
of
coloring
this
kind
of
take,
and
so
you
know
if
we
look
at
different
countries,
people
are
going
to
be
having
different
experiences
while
different
work,
cultures,
kind
of
get
into
this
mode
of
remote
working.
Another
thing
I'll
say
is
that
if
you
are
a
truly
all
remote
team,
there
is
no
such
thing
as
outsourcing.
G
Hey
thanks.
I
was
really
interested
by
slide
nine
and
I
was
curious,
there's
a
bunch
of
questions
in
here,
but
I'm
assuming
that
it's
for
the
handbook
traffic
as
a
whole
and
not
remote
specific
parts.
Okay-
and
I
just
thought
it
was-
it-
was
interesting
because
I
would
expect
the
year
over
year
to
look
lower
this
year
than
it
did
last
year,
just
kind
of
assuming
that
around
march
2020,
a
lot
of
people
were
trying
to
figure
out
remote
and
the
dip.
G
A
Yeah
I'll
I'll
leave
space
for
jessica
and
betsy
to
opine
on
this
as
well.
I
think
the
story
here
is:
it
comes
in
waves,
so
there
was
an
initial
wave
right
when
the
pandemic
hit,
where
the
folks
that
just
got
it
there
were
some
organizations.
That
said,
oh
okay,
this
is
happening,
we're
making
the
shift
we're
just
going
to
call
it
instead
of
leaving
our
employees
in
a
state
of
ambiguity,
kind
of
seeing
how
it
goes
so
that
wave
was
glued
to
our
content,
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
do
this
differently?
A
A
A
But
now,
if
you
look
at
the
speaker
list
of
remote
by
get
lab,
it
is
the
top
of
the
class
in
terms
of
pioneering
minds.
Thinking
about
this,
and
I
I
think
that's
going
to
layer
into
more
and
more
people
searching
for
it
and
then
it's
authentic.
So
they
find
us
that's
kind
of
how
the
the
magic
of
seo
jessica
and
betsy
anything
to
add
there.
A
H
A
Yeah
this
is
such
an
interesting
moment
because
the
market
is
going
to
force
the
hand
of
many
companies,
and
this
is
happening
in
real
time.
I
don't
even
know
if
the
data
can
keep
up
with
it.
If
you
ask
a
hundred
companies
that
are
going
remote,
how
they're
thinking
about
it,
you'll
get
90
different
answers.
A
If
you
look
in
our
handbook,
there
is
a
section
there
that
essentially
says
remote
is
a
diminishing
competitive
advantage,
and
the
reason
for
that
is,
if
we
do
our
jobs
well
and
we
help
proliferate
remote
work
globally.
What
should
happen
is
the
rising
tide,
would
lift
all
boats,
and
so
remote
work
wouldn't
be
something
that
you
would
go
into
specifically
to
save
cost.
You
do
it
because
it's
a
better
business
environment.
A
You
de-risk
your
business,
it's
just
a
fundamentally
better
way
of
doing
business,
and
so
I
know
our
team
is
actually
tracking
companies
that
are
publicly
stating
how
they're
looking
at
this-
and
my
hope
is
that
the
rising
tide
lifts
all
boats,
but
it
is
absolutely
a
topic
that
is
being
played
out
in
in
real
time.
I
don't
know
if
jessica
and
betsy
have
anything
to
add
to
that.
A
I
A
My
response
to
that
is,
there
is
no
replacement
for
in-person
and
it
is
vital
to
have
an
in-person
strategy.
So
a
lot
of
companies
that
will
come
to
us
for
advice.
I
have
to
preemptively
tell
them.
The
goal
here
is
not
to
create
a
company
where
no
one
ever
sees
each
other.
Humans
are
relational.
Communal
beings
and
strategically
planned
in-person
moments
matter
a
lot
less
so
for
work.
A
Generally
speaking,
there's
a
very
high
roi
on
in-person
time
for
culture
building
and
rapport
building,
and
if
you
have
that
turns
out,
you
can
work
virtually
much
easier,
and
so
I
also
try
to
advise
companies.
If
you're
going
to
spend
the
money
to
bring
people
in
from
17
different
countries,
please
don't
make
it
all
about
work,
make
sure
you
have
some
time
in
there
for
people
to
get
to
know
each
other.
So
my
take
on
this
is,
I
hope
we
start
traveling
more.
I
hope.
Generally,
the
world
starts
traveling
more.
A
B
A
A
D
I'll
add
to
that
philip,
there
is
a
talk
at
the
remote
by
git
lab
event
that
you
may
be
interested
in.
So
phil
broner
from
art
ventures
is
going
to
give
a
talk
on
how
vc
was
affected
through
the
shift
to
remote
work,
and
I
think
that's
also
a
very
much
you
know.
One-To-One
person,
connection
sort
of
industry
and
so
it'll
be
very
interesting
to
see
what
he
has
to
say
and
what
he
thinks
is
going
to
happen
next.
I
would
definitely
tune
in
for
that.
C
A
An
observation
to
that
the
concern
was
that,
if
you,
if
you
say
remote,
then
people
are
just
going
to
outsource
everything
or
lose
all
this.
You
know
income
or
gdp
within
our
country.
The
truth
is
this:
comes
down
to
the
company's
choice
right,
who
they
choose
to
hire
and
where
they
choose
to
hire
from
is
going
to
be
their
internal
direction.
A
If
they
need
people
to
serve
their
customers
and
their
customers
are
uk
based
and
they
want
to
have
local
representatives,
it
doesn't
matter
where
in
the
uk
they
hire
them
from
and
that's
the
point.
If
they
choose
to
have
a
particular
job
role,
they
can
be
anywhere,
then
it
can
be
anywhere
and
then
they
can
choose
to
hire
within
their
country,
that's
their
choice
and
their
responsibility
for
the
impact
of
that.
A
So
I
see
where
the
government
is
concerned:
you're
100
right
about
the
institutionalization,
whether
it's
private
or
public
sector-
that's
a
great
point
and
it
actually
brings
up
another
point
which
is
companies
have
been
outsourcing
long
before
remote
was
so
front
and
center,
it's
kind
of
the
whole
point
of
it,
and
so
I
don't
know
that
the
more
global
shift
to
workplace
flexibility
is
necessarily
linked
to
that
outsourcing,
as
it
is
more
commonly
defined
what's
happening.
Even
while
most
companies
were
working
in
a
co-located
fashion,.
J
J
What
it's
really
saying
is
that
one
in
six
jobs
are
anywhere
jobs,
and
so
you
can
look
at
that
as
a
positive
in
terms
of
they
could
be
outsourced
or
you
can
look
at
that
as
an
sorry
as
a
negative,
isn't
they
could
be
outsourced
and
go
elsewhere
or
you
can
look
at
it
as
a
positive
and
go
hey.
Look.
We
can
attract
those
jobs
in
britain,
so
I
think
yeah.
I've
linked
it
and
yeah
put
it
in
the
dock,
but
but
it's
an
interesting
article.
Certainly
I
totally.
A
Agree
with
simon-
and
it
goes
back
to
the
point
I
was
mentioning
about
tulsa
remote,
so
these
smart
governments
will
see
that
stat
and
think.
Well.
If
we
build
more
livable
cities
and
towns,
then
we
can
actually
convince
someone
who
was
living
in
a
different
country
to
come.
Do
that
job
they
want
to
do
within
our
borders
and
that
helps
us
from
an
economic
perspective,
a
much
more
sustainable
way
to
grow
one's
country
or
region.
A
Thinking
about
much
larger
companies
from
small
companies,
I
know
of
many
in
my
immediate
city,
where
there
is
no
office,
they
don't
even
have
people
in
co-working
spaces
and
they
never
did.
These
are
small
organizations
between
5
and
15
that
have
always
worked
from
home
and
met
up
at
coffee
shops
once
or
twice
a
week
to
have
those
critical
meetings
and
otherwise
never
had
a
problem.
These
are
still
small
businesses.
They
still
have
employees
in
some
factories
or
work
spaces
that
are
doing
material
work
and.