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B
I
was
looking
at
the
growth
metrics
on
slide
11..
I
was
like
we're
not
really
making
a
dent.
Actually
things
are
getting
worse
and
then
it
was
like
yes,
because
we
end
of
availability,
bronze
and
starter.
It's
making
everything
harder
and
then
slide.
12
had
like
a
ton
of
ton
of
knowledge,
really
interesting,
but
maybe
maybe
discuss.
Maybe
someone
can
verbalize
a
bit
how
it's
making
it
harder.
I
I
think
that's
totally
valid,
but
I
think
it's
interesting
sorry.
Jamie.
C
Yeah,
I
can
jump
in
there,
although
I
think
sam
may
understand
this
the
best
in
terms
of
the
impacts
to
conversion,
but
I
think
generally
and
sam
feel
free
to
jump
in
here.
What
we're
seeing
with
the
the
impact
there
is
that
we're
just
still
figuring
out
the
impact
of
the
overall
baseline
metrics
that
we're
trying
to
drive
early.
We
are
seeing,
I
think,
some
impact
conversion,
but
for
like
the
create
and
the
verify
stages,
it's
not
necessarily
impacting
things
as
heavily
there.
D
Yeah,
so
we
we
are
seeing
an
impact
on
conversion,
but
the
the
tldr
of
it
is
that
your
trials
are
30
days
long,
so
we're
only
just
starting
to
get
our
initial
cohorts
of
trials
that
have
expired
after
eoa
now.
So
our
absolute
number
of
upgrades,
the
last
time
I
checked,
I
think
it
was
like
under
20,
post
ela,
so
we're
seeing
that
conversion
rate
right
around
one
percent.
We
anticipate
it
to
come
down
to
0.5
or
0.6
based
off
of
what
we're
seeing
just
with
web
portal
purchases.
D
Yeah
good
question
scott,
so
what
we're?
Historically,
we
actually
saw
off
the
top
of
my
head,
I
would
say,
like
60
of
our
transactions
were
actually
to
bronzer
starter.
So
when
we
remove
bronze
and
starter,
we're
actually
going
to
reduce
the
overall
conversion
rate,
but
we
should
see
an
increase
in
the
asp
or
the
average
sale
price
per
transaction,
because
the
people
that
are
upgrading
are
going
to
be
purchasing
premium
or
ultimate,
and
we
are
seeing
that
uptick
in
the
average
transaction.
B
Rate
that
makes
sense
and
then
for
create
stage
adoption.
It's
been
kind
of
declining,
gradually
kind
of
since
the
end
of
january.
There
there
it
shouldn't
have
an
effect
or
or,
if
anything,
a
positive
effect,
or
is
that
not
how
it
works?.
C
Yeah,
we
don't
think
that's
going
to
necessarily
have
an
impact
on
the
create
usage,
because
that's
really
in
the
first
seven
days
we're
looking
at
that.
So
what
is
driving
that
reduction
is
we're,
seeing
an
increase
in
name
spaces
being
created
because
of
the
onboarding
flow
and
the
changes
we've
made
there
to
drive
more
group
creation,
so
that
is
in
turn,
leading
to
a
larger
denominator
that
we
use
when
we
calculate
that
rate-
and
we
may
see
another
dip
there,
because
that
experiment,
I
think,
is
currently
still
at
50
50,
that's
driving
that.
C
E
Great
we
good
on
number
one
sid
yup,
okay
cindy.
You
have
number
two.
F
I
wonder,
though,
had
are
we
doing
things
that
will
help
us
differentiate
our
product
even
more
there,
because,
since
we
do
have
that
full
scope,
it
seems
like
if
we
worked
across
some
of
the
stages
and
created
some
kind
of
net
new
capabilities
that
would
really
kind
of
entrench
us
as
the
the
better
solution
than
what
the
individual
point
products
could
provide.
A
Yeah
victor,
you
want
a
voice
over
a.
G
Thanks
yeah,
personally,
as
we
speak,
the
configure
team
works
on
two
sets
of
features.
I
would
say
in
this
area
one
is
what
you
might
have
heard
about
for
the
gitlab
transagent.
That's
actually
not
a
feature
in
itself,
but
it's
more
like
a
building
block
for
all
the
connections
between
kubernetes,
cluster
and
gitlab
and
so
much
so
that
the
container
security
team.
I
think
it
was
them
added.
G
From
the
very
beginning,
and
personally
I
was
really
surprised
and-
and
we
expect
more
such
integration,
so
we
could
more
like
what
do
we
want?
What
are
the
workflows
we
want
to
support
here?
We
want
to
support
kubernetes-based
workflows
and
have
a
really
strong
integration
there,
and
the
agent
was
built
up
exactly
to
provide
this
foundational
layer
for
every
possible
integration,
and
we
want
to
add
even
more
there.
G
The
other
is
just
autodevops
in
itself,
where
we,
if
you
want
to
glue
together
many
many
pieces
of
gitlab,
to
provide
you
really
nice
user
flow
and
many
stages
to
be
used
at
once.
A
Thank
you,
victor
I'll,
keep
going
and
then
cindy.
You
can
come
back
with
questions
a
couple
of
examples
not
quite
done
typing
them
out,
but
we
have
a
designer
as
a
fairly
recently
focused
on
the
mr
experience
cross
stage.
A
Up.
Until
this
point
we've
had
teams
sort
of
trying
to
do
the
best
they
can
within
their
stage
to
make
the
mr
experience
great
but
we've
as
of
recently
assigned
a
designer
to
take
more
of
a
holistic.
Look
at
that
we,
the
optimize
team,
is
also
has
some
really
exciting
plans
for
analytics
that
would
cross
sort
of
the
whole
life
cycle
and
pull
things
together.
A
Also
door
of
four
metrics
are
starting
to
show
up
in
the
product
and
those
can
pull
together
value
for
multiple
stages
so
trying
wherever
we
can
to
not
ship
our
org
chart
and
to
think
about
how
to
pull
that
value
across
stage
and
cross
group
up
to
the
customers
level.
F
H
Right,
the
next
one
is
more
of
a
shout
out
than
a
question
that
figure
now
has
a
non-profit
smile.
So
thank
you
team
for
doing
that.
H
Awesome
number
four.
For
this.
Along
the
same
lines
too,
we
now
have
a
direction
page
for
deployment,
which
is
great.
If
one
of
you
wants
to
victor
or
kevin
or
kenny,
you
want
to
just
give
a
quick
view
of.
Why
did
we
build
it
and
and
how
it
helps
build
cross-stage
connections?
That
would
be
great.
I
Yeah,
okay,
I'll
cover
that
thanks.
I
don't
see
kevin
on
that
call
yeah
for
for
me,
I'll
just
voice
over
kevin
was
the
genesis
of
this.
But
for
me
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
because
previously
we
have
always
bundled
ci
cd
together,
because
we
use
the
same
yaml
definition
and
structure
for
defining
your
deployment
process
as
what
you
use
for
ci.
I
Well,
deployment
direction
is
meant
to
make
a
clearer
distinction
between
the
ops
tasks
and
the
ci
tasks,
which
are
typically
more
focused
on
the
inner
developer,
loop
portion
and
really
focused
deployment
on.
How
do
you
get
something
to
production
and
what
is
the?
What
is
production
world
like,
and
that
also
includes
things
like
infrastructure
as
code
kubernetes
management,
our
git
ups
strategy,
but
trying
to
package
those
together
because
we're
seeing
a
lot
more
in
the
market.
I
Other
players
focused
on
that
kind
of
like
cd,
tooling
thing
of
like
harness
and
argo
and
others
that
are
very
cd,
focused
tools,
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
had
a
perspective
on
what
they're
doing
how
we're
competing
with
them.
How
our
single
application
includes
those
same
types
of
capabilities
and
where
our
vision
is
headed
there,
so
I
think
it
just
merged
the
second
iteration
last
week,
so
really
looking
for
feedback
on
that
document.
E
B
I
saw
the
experiment
to
to
kind
of
suggest
a
trial
to
people
who
are
signing
up
for
the
free
version,
and
I
think
that's
great,
I
think
it
will
work
are
we
are
we
making?
Are
we
also
measuring
like
how
many
people
might
abandon
their
free
sign
up?
Because
of
that.
D
Yeah,
so
that's
something
that
we're
still
that
experiment
is
still
active
and
we're
still
monitoring
it.
We
are
seeing
a
drastic
uptick
in
the
number
of
trials
started,
so
it's
exceeding
from
that
perspective
and
we're
also
monitoring
the
conversion
rate.
D
So
as
we
as
the
the
trials
between
the
control
and
the
experiment
kind
of
build
out
over
the
over
the
last
few
weeks,
we'll
wait
to
see
how
those
convert
and
we'll
understand
how
each
cohort
impacts
the
overall
conversion
rate
and
then
look
at
also
look
at
the
impact
on
the
sign
up
rate
to
see
where
we
want
to
draw
our
our
success
from.
But
that's
that's
something
that
we're
actively
looking
at.
B
Cool
great
to
hear
that
and
then
a
small
request
like
we
have
stages
per
organization,
and
we
have
kind
of
more
information
in
the
slides
than
on
the
website.
Maybe
we
can
embed
a
few
more
graphs
there,
for
example,
also
having
it
adding
the
paid
stages
per
organization.
A
I
can
take
that
one
I'll
work
with
keenan
on
that.