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From YouTube: Monitor:APM Weekly Meeting
Description
Weekly meeting:
- Getting "logging" to viable
- How should handle large issues that could be broken down or have multiple assignees?
- Review new issues since last week
A
Okay,
welcome
everyone,
hello:
this
is
the
weekly
monitor
a
p.m.
meeting
yeah.
So,
let's
get
started.
The
first
thing
I
had
on
the
agenda
was
just
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
meeting
time
again.
I
know
daylight.
Savings
time
is
affecting
people
differently
across
the
world.
Now
in
the
United.
States
ends
this
weekend
and
then,
since
I
set
up
this
meeting
I
think
it's
probably
the
times
we're
gonna
change
for
everyone,
who's,
not
on
the
same
daylight
savings
time
schedule.
A
B
D
E
E
A
F
Yeah
yeah
yesterday
I
was
able
to
create
the
project
on
staging
that
bit
live.com
as
well,
so
I
also
have
a
ready
cluster
connected
and
everything
is
ready.
I
just
need
to
clean
up
few
things
and
then
I'll
make
an
announcement
on
a
slack
chalice
and
if
you
can
garden,
hopefully
the
link
there.
The
clusters
that
they're
using
for
staging
can
you
can
you
provide
some
context
around
with.
B
F
In
the
previous
meetings,
so
the
idea
was
to
have
a
project
on
each
lap,
calm
and
staging
target
lap
comm
that
people
can
use
to
demo
test
new
features
and
things
like
that.
It
would
be
like
a
continuous
integration
machine
will
say
so.
People
can
just
go
there
and
text
instead
of
everybody
creating
their
own
projects
and
having
transferred
capacity.
B
F
B
F
If,
if
we
want
to
make
some
changes,
for
example,
if
you
want
to
add
a
new
dashboard
and
test,
add
a
custom
dashboard
and
test
certain
features,
you
can
create
a
merge
request
and
make
changes
and
I
can
be
version.
You
can
test
it,
but
if
you
find
that
something
is
missing
or
something
is
broken,
if
I
answer
your
question
correctly,
then
hopefully
should
be
able
to
see
that
and
then
create
an
assurance.
E
So
super
useful
to
have
that
had
that
test
Apple,
because
I
had
to
make
a
test
app
last
week
to
do
to
get
a
chart
change
PR
through
the
through
the
charts
change
to
audit
about
about
app.
So
you
know
those
things
are
handy
handy
to
have,
so
you
can
include
them
in
test
projects
because
they
didn't
have
any.
There
were
no
test
song
for
the
OtterBox
app.
A
Great
yeah,
yeah,
okay,
good
I,
think
it's
pretty
good
and
I.
Think
yeah
after
we
get
to
Dov's
point
I
think
if
we
have
changes,
we
need
to
make
I
think
this
is
a
good
way
to
kind
of
think
about.
Even
dare
I,
say
dog
food,
some
of
our
own
product
here
and
we
can
as
they
come
up.
If
there's
configuration,
changes
or
something
we
can
kind
of
work
through
it
at
that
point,
but
yeah
there's
custom
dashboard
things
we
can
always
create
merge,
request
great
new
dashboards.
Just
like
we
expect
our
customers
do
right.
A
F
A
A
A
That
sounds
great
yeah
I,
just
like
like
youdo.
The
last
couple
have
been
feel
like
we're,
always
a
little
bit
behind
so
yeah
push
that
up
a
little
bit.
I
would
be
great
trying
to
get
on
the
on
a
regular
schedule,
so
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
just
because
it's
kind
of
the
end
of
October
now
so
12.7.
A
We
should
start
planning
in
the
next
yeah
by
the
next
week,
or
so
we
should
kind
of
have
that
more
firmed
up,
mm-hmm,
okay,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
last
week
is
starting
to
review
any
new
issues.
That
was
the
next
thing,
but
I
don't
know.
If
there's
other
stuff,
we
want
to
talk
about
before
that.
A
B
I
have
few
comments.
Yeah
go
ahead,
so
one
of
them
is
so
that
we
had
melt
the
magic
words
about
using
weights,
so
I
don't
think
we
use
them
in
the
last
iteration,
maybe
just
just
a
little
bit.
So
if
it's
possible
to
start
putting
on
weights
on
the
issues
as
documented
in
the
handbook,
if
you
didn't
start,
then
start
counting
down
so
I'll
be
able
to
prioritize
the
issues
as
we
move
from
one
iteration
to
another.
B
B
B
B
Move
to
the
next
installation
and
it's
not
as
elegant
high
poverty,
then
I
would
like
you
to
move
it
to
the
next
iteration.
So
this
will
be
the
only
the
only
way
for
me
to
see
how
we
can
handle
those,
because,
usually
it
happen
right
as
we
move
from
one
iteration
to
another,
so
maybe
I
have
like
a
day
or
so
to
plan
it
accordingly
and
I.
B
E
B
F
B
G
Maybe
that's
a
good
approach
and
then
it's
kind
of
always
up
to
date
anyway,
and
then,
when
we
realize
oh,
this
is
gonna.
Go
to
the
next
release,
it's
already
on
there,
or
are
you
saying
that
all
you
need
it
for
dough
is
just
at
the
beginning
during
planning
and
then
basically
when
we
need
to
switch
them
over
to
the
next
milestone.
So.
B
Yes,
this
is
where
I
need
them,
but
in
reality
I
think
that
if
you
won't
add
them
on
a
weekly
basis,
we
end
up
not
having
them.
Some
of
them
won't
be
there.
So
I
do
need
in
that
time,
but
you
know
sometimes
people
probably
forget
or
won't
do
that
or
you
know
we'll
be
on
vacation,
so
I
think
putting
them
on
the
weekly.
G
G
Alright,
well,
we
can
start
there
and
just
add
it
to
our
weekly
async
updates,
and
then
you
know,
if
that's
not
working,
for
whatever
reason
we
can
yep
mix
that
up,
but
at
least
that
way
you
don't
have
to
think
so
much
about
it.
It's
just
you're
already
touching
the
issue
already
providing
an
update.
It's
just
you
know
one
extra
step.
There.
B
B
Secure,
please
yeah,
so
it's
playing
to
minimum
to
Bible
and
to
do
so
I've
created.
So
we
have
some
issues.
I
had
found
some
time
to
work
on
the
epics
and
and
what
I've
done
I'm
trying
to
they
won't
know
that
the
project
is
pretty
significant,
pretty
large.
There
are
multiple
issues
so
I'm
trying
to
put
some
order
linking
into
things
just
to
so
we'll
have
that
more
control
and
more
visibility
on
walking
toward
this
goal.
B
So
there
is
a
happy
moving
log
into
viable
where
basically,
the
proposal
I'm
saying
that
we
have
multiple
approach
or
multiple
ways
that
we
are
working,
one
is
the
deploy.
Elasticsearch
automatically
collect
application
logs
then
create
the
UI
with
them,
and
then
we
also
have
some
on
the
existing
UI
that
we
have
today,
and
what
I've
done
is
that
I've
broken
it
down
into
three
different
epochs.
B
B
B
Issues
and
we
have
take
one
mode-
support
multiple
containers,
so
basically
what
I'm?
What
I'm
asking
you
is
whenever
this
project
is,
whenever
we
are
opening
an
issue
around
this
project,
let's
be
aware
of
those
the
epics
elasticsearch,
basically,
the
top
two
or
the
elastic
search
related,
one
and
vy1
make
sure
to
associate
them
to
those
epics.
If
you
don't
know
just
that,
mention
me
and
I'll
put
them
this
way.
We
can
see
exactly
how
we
need
to
finalize.
B
A
B
A
B
H
H
D
F
Am
working
on
an
issue
that
also
has
a
front-end,
Urich's
and
back-end
assigned
to
the
issue,
but
to
me
personally
personally,
it
felt
like
it
was
okay,
because
you
it's
really
needed
to
get
involved
because
VX
was
not
completely
ready
and
fronting
inviting.
You
have
conversation
on
that,
so
we
we're
all
you
know
in
actively
or
/
actively
working
on
it,
so
we
were
directly
responsible
for
getting
this
already
ready
state.
So
to
me
personally,
it
felt
like
it
was
okay,
but
the
ICR
is
your
concern
as
well,
and
especially
most
of
these
issues.
F
H
Have
an
answer:
I
would
say
if
someone,
if,
if
we
know
that
several
people
have
to
contribute
to
an
issue,
I
think
there
should
be
your
main
person
responsible
like
a
ones
like
one
single
assignee.
That
is,
if
you
have
hey,
the
UX,
need
some
help
and
then
we
assign
the
person
and
then,
when
that
work
is
done,
it
can
be
going
to
the
other.
H
F
So
in
my
issue,
yeah,
so
one
thing
years
has
been-
the
UX
has
been
good
at
this.
If
something
changes
in
terms
of
design
or
in
terms
of
direction,
there's
just
a
bit
the
description.
So
every
time
I,
look
at
this
door.
I
hope
that
the
description
is
I.
Didn't
ask
me
if
I
feel
like
it's
not
out
there,
I
just
usually
go
to
the
issue
and
paint
your
eggs
first,
otherwise
p.m.
or
front,
and
then
back
and
just
I
had
all
it's
a
lot
of
noise.
F
H
Okay
and
and
then
the
second
part
of
my
question
is
if,
if
we
want
to
designate
some
people
to
display
issues,
I
spent
today
sometimes
planning
issues
and
and
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
But
it
is
not
entirely
clear
that
that's
that's
something
we
want
to
keep
doing
and
and
I
just
want
to
define
that
process.
So
if
anybody
would
like
to
or
if
you
guys,
if
you
don't
think
that
that
the
issue
sizes
are
okay
right
now,
then
it's
also
fine
for
me,
I
think.
B
Every
time
when
I
start
an
issue,
sometimes
I,
don't
know
how
big
it
is
so
I
expect
that
whoever
opened
the
issue
probably
should
be
the
one
you
open
another
issue
on
this
I,
something
that
meets
if
it's
more
natural
for
the
person
would
start
normally
when
I'm
opening
an
issue
issue.
Okay,
this
is
the
this.
Is
the
plan.
B
If
you
think
that
it's
clear
enough-
or
maybe
it's
the
technical
level,
if
the
details
are
so
so
low
and
you
think
okay
I
can
open
up
an
issue,
and
maybe
just
you
know
it
mentioned
the
person
that
opened
the
issue.
If
you
open
another
issue,
so
we
please
you
B
will
probably
be
makes
no
sense,
because,
probably
usually
when
I'm
trying
to
assign
a
to
Kim
epic,
maybe
few
opening
epic
so
I've
mentioned
me.
If
you
do,
that
mentioned
the
person
I.
H
H
G
Is
to
clarify:
are
you
saying
mostly
that
the
issues
that
need
split
are
the
ones
that
are
already
assigned
or
are
the
ones
that
are
not
assigned
like?
Are
you
looking
ahead
to
like
twelve
six
and
wanting
to
see
them
split
more
or
are
you
looking
at
your
current
issues
and
saying
I
can
on
a
moment,
because
I
have.
H
Only
seen
the
current
issues
then
I,
then
I,
I'm
talking
about
those
and
I
would
I
would
want
so
I
would
want
the
process
to
be.
Dolph
has
a
let's
say
a
big
feature
he
has
in
mind
and
then
he
passes
that
to
Matt
and
agile
to
to
split
it
up
and
to
see
if
how
this
job
can
be
can
be
spread
across
the
team,
and
it
should
not
spend
too
long
being
so
huge.
G
It's
a
tricky
decision
right
because
sometimes
because
issues
to
me
are
still
somewhat
superficial,
like
what
really
matters
are
Mrs
and
that's
where
we
want
everything
to
be
as
small
as
possible
and
an
issue
can
be
either
encapsulating
multiple
Amar's
or
maybe
it's
a
one-to-one
ratio,
sometimes
I,
don't
know,
I.
Think.
G
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
us
to
try
and
split
down.
You
know
issues
as
we're
planning
them.
If
we
see
like
okay,
this
is
actually
gonna
take.
You
know
this
piece
and
this
piece
and
then
that's
a
good
thing,
sometimes
I
think
those
implementation
details.
I
may
not
have
this,
like.
You
may
look
at
an
issue
once
it
gets
assigned
and
realized.
Oh,
this
actually
is
complicated
because
of
you
know,
XY
and
Z
right
and
I
I
think
I'd
be
inclined
to
say
in
those
situations.
G
If
you
need
help
splitting
it
down,
please
ping
me
I'm
happy
to
help
with
that,
but
also
feel
empowered
to
do
it
yourself.
If
you
see
like
hey
I,
know
that
this
and
this
needs
to
happen.
I,
don't
you
know,
I,
don't
think
you
should
have
to
wait
around
for
who's
the
DRI
on
this
issue.
All
of
us
are
I
mean
in
that
sense.
I
think
you
know.
G
Kind
of
the
gitlab
way
is
just
be
biased
for
action
and
if
you
see
something
that
you
want
to
split
out,
go
ahead
and
do
it
and
if
we
decide
hey
that,
wasn't
the
right
decision
who
cares
we'll
fix
it?
You
know
we'll
close
the
issues
that
we
don't
need
and
go
back
to
the
original
I.
Don't
know
I
guess
that's.
G
H
Case
for
splitting
the
issues
is
these
one
is
that
it
makes
clear
this
my
it
makes
more
clear
who
can
be
responsible
for
it
and
second,
but
it
makes
more
care
which
my
milestone
is
gonna
land
into.
If
we
have
an
issue,
that's
that
survives
several
milestones.
I
think
is
probably
because
this
issue
is
too
large
and
and
then
it's
just
like
we
did
maybe
half
of
that.
H
Yes
you're
right,
it
came
in
an
amar
and
then
that
amar
had
a
correct
milestone
and
it
got
merged,
but
then
it
says
missed
and
then
it
goes
to
the
next
milestone,
and
then
we
have
another
little
amar
and
it
just
carries
over
with
defined
scope.
So
I
think
that
that's
one
if
the
issue,
of
course,
if
the
issue
is
stays
within
the
milestone,
I
think
it's
the
right
size,
but
if
it
starts
dragging
and
I
think
it
becomes
hard
to
prioritize
hey
how
much
of
this
is
done?
We
didn't
do
the
right
splitting.
G
Yeah
I
really
don't
like
those
miss
deliverable
labels.
I'm
sorry
I
know
that
that's
irrelevant
to
this
discussion,
I
just
really
don't
like
what
they
communicate
but
anyway.
That's
that
separate,
I'm,
not
gonna,
get
on
that
now.
Right
now,
I,
let's
I.
G
H
I
Think
I
understand
your
point.
We
go
I.
Just
don't
feel
like
I
have
enough
inside
sure
valuable
point
of
view
on
this
in
terms
of
the
workflow
in
the
club.
I
could
relate
to
my
previous
experience
that
we
have.
We
had
similar
issues
that
we
have
like
the
one
major
issue
to
track.
The
progress
is
like
whole
feature
and
it
stays
up
for
multiple
iterations
because
of
what
you
say
so
and
also
we
kind
of
during
the
process.
Take
this
approach
to
split
it
down
to
have
one
assignee
or
their
issue
so
like.
I
If
some
feature
requires
works
and
like
multiple
experience,
preferably
from
beautiful
aspects
of
full
of
status,
it
was
like
there's
one
issue
containing
I,
don't
know
back-end
part
of
the
work
and
the
other
contains
the
front-end
part
of
the
work,
and
there
was
like
the
one
issue
which,
like
has
was
connected
to
the
others
right
XIV
this
issue.
This
issue,
for
the
whole
feature,
is
blocked
by
the
two
issues
the
front
end
and
the
back
end.
So
when
the
back
end
and
the
front
was
completed,
the
the
master
issues
of
college
was
moved.
I
So
I
think
that
is
the
case
and
that
could
be
in
problem
in
terms
of
software
development
and
project
planning
and
I
totally
agree
that
probably
having
single
assignee
is
easier
to
track
or
easier
to
even
ask
like
hey.
What's
the
deal
with
this?
Is
it
gonna
be
delivered
in
this
milestone
on
another
milestone?
I
G
E
G
You
know
if
we're
properly
dogfooding
our
product
and
it
does
sound
like
we
should
be.
If
there's
an
issue
that
needs
broken
down
further,
we
should
just
promote
it
into
an
epoch
and
then
have
that's
where
all
the
conversation
happens.
That's
where
all
the
collaboration
happens,
and
then
we
have,
even
if
an
epoch
just
contains
a
back
end
piece
and
a
front
end
piece,
it's
more
than
one
issue
or
more
than
one
effort
represented
to
get
us
there.
G
J
I
Expose
in
drag
so
use
the
issues
because
of
that,
and
we
make
like
workarounds
to
make
it
work.
But
maybe
this
is
also
the
case
which
we
should
rise
up,
awareness
that
maybe
epics
should
be
trackable,
since
it's
apparently
required
and
needed
by
many
teams
to
have
some
ability
to
do
so.
So
maybe
just
aside
topic,
but
maybe
we
should
just
like
know,
create
an
issue.
We
should
be
a
part.
I
mean.
J
H
G
I
think
the
one
thing
I
think
my
point
in
all
that
is
just
to
if
we
do
go
ahead
and
promote
an
issue
to
an
epoch,
we'll
just
have
to
be
careful
that
we
are
actually
adding
the
sub
issues
under
there
and
making
sure
that
they
land
within
the
planned
milestone
right.
Cuz
dole
has
taken
the
time
to
schedule
it
and
prioritize
it
based
on
the
issue
board.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
if
we're
creating
an
epoch
and
splitting
those
pieces
out,
but
those
pieces
land
you
know
within
the
prioritization.
G
We
expect
to
see
them
on
the
issue
board,
so
we're
not
creating
too
much
confusion.
And
ideally
you
know
maybe
having
the
same
title
and
then
just
putting
a
bracketed,
front-end
or
back-end
piece
or
part.
One
part
two.
You
know
something
so
that
the
titles
don't
disappear
because
I
know
that's
a
pretty
big
point
of
reference
for
us
when
we
look
at
it
on
the
entry
board.
No.
I
G
A
One
one
thing
we've
run
into
before
I
will
have
to
as
we're
going
through
this
process.
To
think
about
is
if
we
promote
an
issue
to
an
epic,
and
that
issue
was
a
release
post
item,
there's
some
there,
because
epics
don't
get
treated
the
same
way
for
release
posts
and
so
I,
don't
know
how
we
wanna
do
one.
A
B
J
G
Think
in
most
cases,
if
we're
dividing
an
issue
up,
what
we're
really
saying
is
there's
a
couple
of
iterations
here
to
get
to
where
we
want
to
be
so
whatever
the
last
issue
in
that
like
merge,
train
is
so
here.
The
last
step
in
the
process
would
become
kind
of
the
one
that
has
the
release
book
right,
because
until
that
feature
is
complete,
it
really
shouldn't
be
in
our
release
post
item.
G
So
if
we
have
to
break
an
issue
down,
then
maybe
whoever's
doing
that
it
will
just
have
to
be
mindful
that
you
know
making
sure
all
those
product
vision,
labels,
release
post
item
labels,
get
added
to
the
like
the
last
step
in
the
process,
so
to
speak,
and
that
way
we
know.
Okay,
when
this
issue
is
complete
now
this
feature
is
like
ready
to
be
delivered.
B
B
B
E
A
A
B
A
B
B
H
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
I
meant
to
split,
so
we
have
a
kind
of
a
big,
a
big
ish
issue,
which
is
we
want
to
get
the
user
to
edit
dashboards
directly
from
the
dashboard
page
instead
of
going
through
the
repository
file
else
and
or
at
least
helping
them
to
get
there.
So
there
are
different
kind
of
variants
of
this.
One
is
if
the
file
is
already
created.
So
then
it
should
be
easy
for
to
guide
them
to
take
them
straight
to
repository.
So
that's
what
this
issue
is
about,
and
the
other
issue
is.
H
H
So
that's
the
other
topic
that
I
think
Sarah
just
just
commented
that
we
should
be
careful
that
there
are
some
dynamic
stuff
in
there,
because
the
system,
what
also
shows
the
custom,
metrics
and
I
don't
know
where
those
custom
metrics
are
stored,
I
suppose
you're
in
the
database.
So
we
should,
but
that's
the
general
yeah
those.
H
A
H
B
G
F
A
Okay,
so
yeah,
let's
on
all
of
those,
we
can
talk
in
the
issue
because
that
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
that
way.
Well,
we
talked
about
it
last
week,
and
so
let's
continue
that
discussion
since
we're
kind
of
running
out
of
time,
I
want
to
get
to
kind
of
the
rest
of
these
issues
too.
So
this
is
the
next
one,
a
dream
cave
this
one
is
a
follow
up.
Yes,.
D
It's
a
follow-up
to
the
elasticsearch
child
work,
so
we
didn't
pay
a
lot
of
attention
to
the
actual
settings.
We
used
the
plastic
search,
so
we
have
to
look
at
them
specifically
number
of
replicas
that
I
retain
retention
and
stuff
like
that.
So
it's
pretty
basic
for
now
and
we
haven't
really
looked
at
them.
Okay,.
G
A
In
the
handbook,
and
also
for
this
one,
don't
have
created
an
issue
to
track
the
progress
of
the
planning,
so
just
want
to
consolidate
that
can
review
it.
So
I'll
I
just
kind
of
made
that
placeholder
for
me,
so
I
made
sure
that
I
didn't
forget
about
it
and
then
I
can
get
some
feedback
on
a
few
things
as
I'm
working
on
it
or
looking
at
it
all
right.
This
one
is
a
I
think
a
customer
bug
I.
A
A
A
H
H
A
E
E
A
Thanks
for
jumping
in
looking
at
that,
that
was
helpful,
we
kind
of
knew
or
read
suspected
this.
What
was
gonna
have
or
suspected
what
was
the
problem,
so
thanks
for
digging
in
and
I
did
not
expect
that
it
was
a
data
type
problem.
That
was
the
change
you
made
right.
It
was
right,
it's
just
yes,.
C
E
A
A
It
could
only
be
a
couple
clicks
that
we
could
have
one
for
the
next
milestone
like
they
do
for
Oh
some
things.
Okay,
that's
it
I,
think
we're
out
of
time.
So
thank
you.
Everybody
and
I
tried
to
take
some
notes
in
here,
but
if
I
miss
stuff
or
if
you
have
want
to
change
what
I
wrote
because
I
didn't
characterize
it
correctly,
please
go
in
and
update
it
or
add
additional
comments
in
the
agenda
and
then
I'll
also
post
the
recording
as
soon
as
it's
done
processing.