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A
All
right
so
talking
about
navigation.
I
really
like
some
of
the
ideas
that
you
have
on
there
and
the
questions
I
have
in
some
of
the
stuff.
It's
just
maybe
you
could
explain
to
me
the
instance
level
features
a
little
bit
more
about
if
there's
like
overlap
with
one
another,
as
in
like.
A
B
Yeah,
so
I
don't
know
the
history
of
of
gitlab's
information
architecture,
but
what
I
assume
is
git
lab
was
fundamentally
built
around
the
concept
of
a
project
and,
as
such,
our
navigation
has
been
sort
of
optimized
towards
things
like
very
focused
on
the
project,
because
gitlab
came
from
source
code
management.
It
came
from
all
this
sort
of
stuff
which
sort
of
it
makes
sense
for
the
project
to
be
scoped.
B
That
way,
now
that
we're
becoming
more
of
like
an
enterprise
focused
company,
we
need
to
be
considering
multiple
projects
and
groups
and
and
so
on
at
once
and
analytics
is
and
well
our
team's
now
called
group
optimize,
but
the
the
features
that
sit
within
group
optimize
are
not
necessarily
constrained
to
the
scope
of
a
single
group
or
the
scope
of
a
a
single
project.
B
Sometimes
it's
going
to
be
looking
at
the
entirety
of
the
instance,
so
understanding
how
how
the
instance
is
doing
so.
This
would
be
like
a
persona
of
a
an
engineering
director
or
an
executive
understanding
how
git
lab
is
being
adopted
or
something
along
these
lines.
B
Sometimes
it's
in
the
scope
of
focusing
on
multiple
projects
and
groups.
At
once,
and
then
excluding
some
other
projects
that
may
live
within
those
and
being
like
really
specific
on
the
area
that
you're
trying
to
find
some
of
the
the
customer
conversations
that
I've
had
have
shown
that
projects
and
groups
don't
typically
map
nicely
specifically
to
teams
within
an
organization.
B
So
physical
teams
that
occur
with
an
organization
often
span
in
different
ways
across
projects
and
groups
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
map
out
yet-
and
this
is
where
the
segments
feature
that
we're
developing
in
analytics
is
starting
to
to
allow
us
to
be
a
little
bit
more
specific
and
focused
and
granular
on
the
instance
level.
B
So
the
challenge
we
have
within
analytics
is
there's
some
stuff
which
is
relevant
to
projects
and
groups,
but
then
there's
also
a
lot
of
stuff
which
is
relevant
to
to
the
instance
level
and
the
way
our
navigation
is
set
up
at
the
moment,
it's
quite
confusing
to
differentiate
between
projects
and
groups.
But
it's
also
feels
like
the
what,
like
the
the
metaphors
that
we
use
on
the
navigation,
make
it
feel
like
a
project,
isn't
nested
within
a
group,
and
a
group
isn't
nested
within
an
instance.
B
So
the
what
I
was
trying
to
do
was
to
make
instance
level
the
instance
like
more
of
a
concept
that
that
is
universally
understood
by
users.
So
can
we
make
the
instance
as
universally
understood
as
a
project,
and
can
we
also
tell
a
story
of
where
projects
live
in
groups
and
where
groups
live
in
in
the
instance
and
so
on?
B
So
that
was
like
the
the
general
objective
was
to
more
clearly
illustrate
the
mental
model
of
what
an
instance
is
so
we
can
more
effectively
appeal
to
the
more
senior
executive
type
people
personas,
who
use
gitlab
or
people
who
aren't
necessarily
looking
at
gitlab
from
a
project
point
of
view,
but
are
looking
at
it
from
like
a
cross
across
project,
point
of
view
or
across
group
point
of
view,
like
security
and
so
on.
So
what
we
have
in
the
nav
now
what
we
have
in
the
nav.
B
Now,
if
you
look
under
the
more
menu,
it's
essentially
all
just,
like
instance,
level
features
and
they've
fallen
under
the
more
nav
just
sort
of
because
they
don't
fit
anywhere
else
right,
so
yeah
this.
This
is.
This
is
yeah
just
something:
that's
something
that
I've
been
struggling
with
with
regards
to
like
design
and
information
architecture,
since
I've
been
in
gitlab.
So
that's
what
manifested
the
the
issue.
B
So
no
I
I
would
still
in
in
the
current
constructs
that
we
have,
I
would
there
would
still
be
analytics,
which
is
relevant
to
a
prod
like
specifically
relevant
to
a
project,
and
then
there'd
still
be
analytics
that
is
specifically
relevant
to
groups,
so
there
would
be
sort
of
the
three
levels
of
it
you
could
if
you
wanted
to-
and
this
is
something
that
would
potentially
be
created
in
in
a
year
or
two's
time-
maybe
but
start
to
create
saved
analytics
pages
and
that
could
potentially
reduce
some
of
the
content
from
the
sidebar
and
then
that
that
would
those
saved
analytics
pages
could
be
scoped
in
whatever
way
you
want,
and
then
they
would
just
be
saved
in
like
an
analytics
hub
which
would
be
accessed
at
the
at
the
instance
level,
and
I've
actually
got
a
video.
B
I've
got
a
video
that
I
I
recorded
quite
recently,
but
not
quite
that's.
I
will
share
with
you
youtube
navigation.
B
So
yeah
this
is
how
old
is
it
from
may?
So
some
of
the
stuff
I'm
talking
about
is
a
little
bit
dated
I'm
just
going
to
drop
this
in
the
chat,
but
it
should
give
you
an
indication
of
of
like
some
of
the
stuff
that
I
was
talking
about
and
yeah
just
take
a
look
at
that
and
as
well
as
that
yeah,
the
stop
get
that
we've
doing
been
doing
in
analytics
is
just
dropping
stuff
in
the
admin
panel,
because
admin
panel
is
effectively
instance
level.
B
But
that's
not
really
doing
that's
not
doing
wonders
for
our
usage,
so
we're
trying
to
get
it
out
of
the
admin
panel
as
quickly
as
possible.
A
All
right
is
there
a
reason
you
stuck
it
in
the
admin
panel
versus
in
the
more
panel.
B
So
we
originally
had
analytics
in
the
more
panel
and
then
in
order
to
drive
usage,
we
moved
it
up
into
the
navbar
and
just
had
it
as
an
icon,
and
then
sid
commented
on
it
saying:
look
you're
starting
to
clutter
the
nav
bar.
So
can
we
get
rid
of
this
and
then
at
the
stage
that
we
were
at
we
didn't?
Have
we
didn't
really
have
enough
content
with,
at
the
instance
level,
to
justify
putting
it
back
into
the
more
menu?
B
So
we
thought
rather
than
doing
that,
let's
just
put
the
instance
level
features
within
the
admin
panel
for
now,
and
then
we
can
put
the
other
features
that
don't
necessarily
need
to
be
instance,
level.
We
can
actually
just
align
those
to
group
level
such
as
productivity,
analytics
and
and
sort
of
just
work
with
it
from
that
side.
B
But
now
I've
actually
created
an
issue
today,
which
I
think
is
like
this.
The
short
term
is
put
analytics
in
the
more
panel
again
okay,
which
is
instance
analytics
more
again.
B
So
that's
a
yeah,
that's
something
that
we'll
probably
prioritize
quite
soon.
A
All
right,
so
one
of
the
things
that
you
propose
was
this
issue
here,
I'm
just
gonna
post
in
the
chat.
So
this
is
the
consolidating
the
menus
project
group
and
more
into
one
selection
area,
and
one
of
the
points
that
I
wasn't
able
to
pick
out
myself
was
the
one
point
in
there
around
by
making
the
change,
you're,
increasing
the
clarity
or
like
one
of
the
goals,
is
increasing
the
clarity
of
what
workspace
the
user
is
currently
in.
I
was
just
wondering
how.
B
B
Yes,
so
let
me
just
read
through
this
issue
because
it
was
a
while
back
since
I
wrote
it
so.
B
We've
divided
the
concept
of
project
and
group,
although
they
they're
not
really
that
different
they're
just
sort
of
the
containers
for
the
thing
for
the
for
the
area
that
you're
working
in
so
when
I
refer
to,
like
the
clarity
of
the
thing
that
you're
working
in
what
I'm
really
talking
about,
is
showing
that
these
that
the
concept
of
projects
and
groups
are
sort
of
mutually
exclusive
and
just
just
being
really
clear
with
this
is
the
container
that
we're
in
right
now,
and
these
are
the
items
that
live
within
this
container.
B
Okay.
So
by
consolidating
the
the
single
project
group
and
more
experience,
it's
just
it's
it's
starting
to
make
the
concept
of
container
or
workspace
more
of
a
thing,
rather
than
I'm
in
a
project
right
now,
I'm
in
a
group
right
now,
rather
than
I'm
in
a
workspace
right
now,
and
that
workspace
happens
to
be
a
project
or
I'm
in
a
workspace.
Now
that
happens
to
be
an
instance,
or
that
happens
to
be
a
user
view
or
whatever
it
may.
B
A
Cool
okay,
and
that
makes
a
little
bit
more
sense
to
me.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
walk
you
through
one
design
that
I
have
in
my
mind
right
now,
and
I
just
wanted
to
get
your
sense
check
on
whether
this
is
like
the
right
thinking
about,
like
instance,
or
like
kind
of
the
workplace.
So
I'm
just
going
to
share
my
screen
now
and.
A
Okay,
so
do
you
remember
this
design
of
yours
on
the
left
hand
side
here
where
you
have
like
a.
A
Sidebar
and
one
of
the
interesting
things
in
there
was
like
opening.
This
opens
up
like
that
that
menu
of
all
the
things
I
brought
this
up,
because
to
me
this,
I
was
kind
of
trying
to
look
for
something
like
this
in
the
other
designs
to
show
the
current
workspace
that
you
were
in,
but
I
digress
and
I'll
just
jump
into
this.
So
what
I'm
thinking
of
taking
forward
for
this.
B
A
Very
like
rough
thinking
right
now,
but,
like
you,
suggested,
consolidating
those
things
into
like
one
menu
item
and
then
pressing
menu
opens
up
all
those
things
there
cool.
Now,
if
we
go
back
to
this
guy
here
with
this,
like
instance,
thing.
A
What
oh
yeah
there
we
go,
so
is
this
the
right
like
is
this
wrong
to
like
think
that
instance,
level
or
like
changing
the
current
context,
to
be
using
this
kind
of
like
pattern
to
say
like
this?
Is
the
thing
that
you're
currently
in
so
it
could
be
like
project
or
group,
but
it'd
be
like
higher
level.
Then.
A
Or
it
takes
this,
but
instead
of
doing
the
left
menu
thing,
I
think
I'm
just
doing
it
in
the
context
of
like
having
the
top
top
navigation
still
there.
So
I
was
like
could
would
this
be
the
right
application
of
this?
This
component
that
you
were
thinking
of
here.
B
Yeah
for
sure
I
I
was
sort
of
thinking
in
a
similar
way
to
you
for
the
for
the
mvc
I
sort
of
initially
mapped
out.
I
just
thought
it
would
be
simpler
if
we
just
stuck
with
the
the
menu
item
concept
that
we
have
at
the
moment.
B
But
yeah
that
makes
sense
right
there.
It's
it's!
It's
it's
starting
to
be
a
little
bit
more
clear
of
what
is
the
work
space
I'm
in
and
what
type
of
workspace
is
it
so
instance
and
git
lab
co
is,
is
where
I'm
in
right
now
so
yeah
that
that
makes
sense
to
me
the
the
two
sidebar
approach
that
I
that
I
took
there,
I'm
not
necessarily
drawn
to
it.
B
I
just
sort
of
put
it
there
to
provide
a
little
to
to
see
if
we
could
maximize
the
vertical
space
yeah
but
again
yeah
you
sort
of
optimize
optimize
it
in
whatever
way
you
want
yeah.
But
I
think
what's
what's
nice
about
this
layout?
Is
it
sort
of
more
clearly
differentiates
the
stuff
which
is
just
mine
personally,
so
my
user
workspace
stuff.
So
my
issues
my
mind
and
then
the
shared
stuff,
which
is
like
the
the
the
instance
level
stuff.
B
Yeah
exactly
and
then
having
the
workspace
items
or
the
yeah
the
items
within
the
workspace
directly.
Underneath
that
context
again,
I
think
helps
to
reinforce
the
story
that
these
are
the
items
that
live
within
this
workspace.
A
B
B
A
Clear
what
what
this
is,
what
this
is
saying
so
that
yeah,
that
makes
sense
and-
and
I
guess
like
from
an
alignment
perspective-
it's
like
these
things-
fall
underneath
this
kind
of
pair.
So
if
I
change
this
to
a
project
and
I'll
see
like
issues
and
whatever
merge
requests,
and
things
like
that,
that
whatever
that
information
architecture
may
be
cool.
A
Cool
cool
yeah.
So
that
concludes
the
like
key
questions
I
have
for
today.
So
right
now
the
team
is
just
ramping
up
and
the
ux
research
team
is
doing
some
research
to
get
like
a
baseline
and
understanding
of
where
things
should
fit.
In
from
an
information
architecture,
standpoint
and
plus
the
current
experiences
around
settings
in
navigation
from
splitting
up
settings
and
navigation.
A
The
team
feels
like
there's
some
stuff
in
settings
that
are
kind
of
low
hanging
fruits
that
we
can
like
tackle
without
too
much
solution,
validation.
But
navigation
is
something
that
we
feel
like
needs
a
little
bit
more
solution
validation.
So
some
of
this
stuff
around
like
consolidating
the
menus,
is
kind
of
front
of
mind
to
like
tackle
very
soon
so
we're
gonna
start
taking
that
through
the
bookmarking
thing
is
a
very
interesting
thing.
A
It's
listed
as
one
of
the
things
that
we
could
look
at,
but
it's
a
big
piece
because
yeah,
so
we
might
tackle
some
of
the
more
immediate
stuff.
A
But,
like
you
know,
my
personal
thing
is
like
yeah
it'll
be
it'll,
be
nice
to
have
bookmarking
thing,
because
my
current,
like
thesis
on
how
navigation
should
work
in
gitlab
is
that
you
should
be
able
to
navigate
gitlab
through
gitlab,
without
using
or
depending
on
browser
extensions
or
like
browser
functionality,
as
in
yeah
back
buttons
or
like
finding,
where
you
need
to
go
that
ultimately,
that'd
be
the
ideal
situation,
but
yeah
that'll
probably
take
a
while
to
get
to.
But
yeah
do
you
have
any
questions
for
me
before
we
wrap
up
today.
B
B
Shared
yeah,
that's
the
one
yeah
yeah,
so
yeah
shared
that
with
you
and
then,
as
you
can
see
like
I.
I
also
like
tried
like
a
salesforce
thing,
which
was.
A
A
B
But
yeah,
I
think,
yeah.
I
appreciate
you
getting
in
touch
and
I'm
really
excited
to
see
to
see
sort
of
the
navigation
improve
in
general
within
gitlab.
With
regards
to
the
to
the
navigation
research
that
you're
doing,
I
wonder
what,
whether
so
yeah,
I
wonder
whether
there's
an
exercise
that
can
be
done
to
see
how
people
think
about
the
information,
architecture
or
hierarchy
of
of
these
key
navigation
objects,
so
understanding
people's
mental
model
of
how
they
think
instance,
level
instances,
projects
and
groups
map
and
relate
to
each
other.
B
B
So
so
yeah
I've
sort
of
talked
about
the
general
narrative
of
what
story
is
this
navigation
telling
you
about
the
the
way
that
the
way
that
the
navigation
and
information
architecture
works
and
I'd
love
to
to
know
a
little
bit
more
concretely
from
users
how
they
think
about
what
lives
within
what
and
and
whether
the
new
story
that
we're
pitching
of
of
objects
relating
to
each
other
and
objects,
being
parents
or
children
with
one
another,
makes
sense
so
sort
of
combining
that
together,
like
as
a
card
exercise
and
combining
that,
together
with
some
with
some
solution,
validation,
I
think,
would
give
you
two
angles
to
to
the
story
from
a
research
perspective
that
could
be
quite
valuable.