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From YouTube: WG: Product CDF Weekly Sync
A
A
So
if
either
of
you
have
contacts
for
vps
at
these
different
kinds
of
companies
that
are
listed
in
the
linked
issue,
I
would
love
an
intro
again,
I'm
just
interviewing
them
about
how
they
are
evaluating
their
product
managers
and
we're
taking
notes
and
we'll
incorporate
some
of
that
feedback
into
our
career
development
framework
and
then
david.
I
transcribed
a
to-do
right
here,
because
I
think
last
week
we
mentioned
that
we
would
make
an
introduction.
A
A
A
So
what
anup
was
hoping
to
accomplish
with
this?
This
part
of
the
segment
is
take
a
internal
review
of
what
leaders
or
the
field
or
customer
success
team
are
expecting
from
individual
contributor
products,
managers
and
evaluate
what
these
different
perspectives
expect
of
our
product
managers
and
then
create
like
a
competency
of
that
perspective
and
incorporate
that
inside
our
career
development
framework.
A
So
I
have
a
list
of
different
proposed
contacts
that
we
would
want
to
sample
and
evaluate,
and
the
idea
is
to
create
a
survey
with
different
product
manager,
expectations
and
in
in
a
past
role.
When
I
did
this,
it
was
way
more
effective
to
have
it
on
like
statements
and
to
to
evaluate
it
on
a
likert
scale
rather
than
being
open-ended,
because
when
you
do
it
open-ended,
then
you
almost
put
people's
conceptions
of
what
product
manager
should
be
doing
in
their
mind.
A
And
then,
when
you
put
a
product
manager
in
front
of
them,
when
that
person
doesn't
do
that,
then
you
have
cognitive
dissonance
about
that
that
role.
So
that's
the
first
step,
then
the
next
step
is
to
distribute
the
survey
to
these
various
populations,
we'll
create,
like
a
sampling
of
that
population,
then
to
conduct
this
other.
This
other
step
is
optional.
A
We
can
sample
of
that
sampling,
qualitative
interviews
so
to
pick
key
leaders
or
key
representatives
from
each
of
these
different
segments
and
actually
interview
them
of
what
they
expect
of
product
managers
and
bring
that
back
to
you
all
for
kind
of
review,
and
then
we
would
all
review
the
key
themes
that
came
out
of
that
expectation
across
the
sales
and
customer
success
team
and
then
create
core
competencies.
For
that.
B
This
is
actually
exciting
because
I
think
what
you'll
find
is
both
on
the
sales
side
and
on
the
pm
side.
There's
a
disconnect-
and
I
don't
know
josh
if
you've
seen
that,
but
I've
seen
some
team
members
who
aren't
exactly
sure,
they're
the
companies
they're
supposed
to
have
for
engaging
with
sales
or
engaging
with
customers.
C
B
No,
I
muted
myself
now
what
I'm
saying
is
that
some
pms
have
said
sales
reached
out,
wants
to
pull
me
into
a
demo
or
want
me
to
talk
to
a
customer.
Is
that
really
my
job?
I
thought
that
was
the
job
of
an
sa,
and
yes,
that
is
probably
true,
but
I
guess
they
both
can
be
yes
right
and
so
getting
that
sense,
that
jackie's
talking
about
internally
interviewing
sales
leaders
and
pms.
B
C
Josh
yeah!
No
thanks,
that's
helpful!
Okay!
I
I
haven't
seen
that,
except
in
some
cases,
but
anyways
you
can
find
everybody.
I
think
it'd
be
helpful
to
get
yeah
their
input
on
what
they
need.
I
think
it
also
helps
surface
gaps
where
product
isn't
necessarily
servicing
with
what
they
need.
I
heard
one
time
like
enablement
and
training
is
lacking,
whether
that's
product,
whether
it's
marketing
like
we
can
figure
that
out,
but
it'll
also
help.
I
think
surface
that
as
well.
A
Am
I
missing
any
audiences
in
this
particular
list?
I
think
would
be
helpful,
so
I
did
ping
you
all
on
that,
so
you
have
a
to
do.
It
would
be
good
for
for
you
all
to
look
at
that
list
of
proposed
contacts
and
to
understand
if
I'm
missing
a
level
in
there
or
if
I'm
missing
someone
that
you
think
we
should
be
sampling
or
if
there's
a
step
in
that
list,
that
you
think
I
should
be
considering.
B
C
C
Yeah,
I
guess
I'm
maybe
not
super
clear
on
so
I
look
at
the
looked
at
the
the
working
group
page
and
it
it
seems
more
about
just
overall,
you
know
revamping
the
cdf
and
incorporating
into
standards
and
expectations,
not
necessarily
focus
specifically
on
like
to
go
to
market
side
like
the
field
side.
But
that's
is
that
true
or.
A
Well,
I
think
we're
doing
we're
taking
different
angles
of
the
cdf
and
that's
what
all
these
issues
that
have
been
created
are
for
so
the
first
step
was
to
research
industry
based
and
how
we
stock
up.
The
second
one
was
to
evaluate
product
led
company
requirements
and
conduct
external
review.
This
first
step
is
evaluate
like
conducting
a
survey
and
I'm
totally
about
including
engineering
or
other
internal
stakeholders,
evaluation
of
pm
requirements.
A
C
Yeah
I
mean
I
would
agree
that
that's
the
an
area
we
need
to
focus
on
like
because,
like
there's
a
gap,
that's
where
the
gap's
gonna
be,
but
you
know
when
you're
asking
we
asked
like
is
there
other
people
should
be
interviewing?
I
would
consider
engineering
to
be
a
large
stakeholder.
What
product
management
does.
A
Yeah
I
do.
I
do
think
that
it
does
depend
on
again
the
questions,
the
expectations
that
we're
evaluating
and
if
we
look
at
how
our
how
the
industry
evaluates
product
managers,
there's
different
segments
of
skills
that
they're
evaluated
on.
So
we
may
create
different
surveys
for
those
kinds
of
skills
and
evaluate
different
statements.
Based
off
of
that.
A
A
There,
okay,
so
next
up
I'll
start
this
survey
with
the
various
statements
and
then
would
love
your
thoughts
on.
If
there's
other
kinds
of
statements
that
we
should
be
including-
and
a
lot
of
this
will
be
based
off
of
what
juliana
will
be
providing,
which
will
be
the
radford
piece
on
product
manager
baseline
and
what
we
learn
from
the
product.