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From YouTube: Deployment Direction Milestone Discussion
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Part of the monthly Configure, Release, Monitor PM discussion
B
Sure
yeah,
the
next
topic
here
is
deployment
direction
milestones,
and
by
that
I
mean
what
are
ways
we
can
show
progress
towards
the
vision
that
we
have
the
direction
that
that
kevin
you've
driven
and
documented
I've
in
some
contexts
I've
heard
some
feedback
about
just
like
well.
B
Here
we
have
the
direction.
How
are
we
making
progress?
Are
we
making
progress?
It
feels
like
we're
not
or
you
know
we
don't
know
where
we
are
where
we
stand,
even
though
we
know
teams
are
working,
and
so
I
think
I
think
because
of
that-
and
I
think
just
also
for
now
that
we're
executing
it
could
be
a
good
way.
B
You
know
we
should
spend
some
time
thinking
about
what
are
the
key
milestones
that
we
want
to
highlight
and
drive
towards
between
now,
and
you
know
a
year
from
now,
maybe
and
beyond,
and
and
then
share
that
with
the
rest
of
the
team,
with
the
rest
of
the
org
to
show
progress,
and
then
I
have
a
few
like
just
a
few
ideas
of
what
those
milestones
could
look
like,
but
I
wanted
to
open
it
up.
I
wanted
to
raise
this
and
then
brainstorm
together
and
figure
out
what
those
could
look
like.
B
B
Certain
kpis
smile
or
you
know,
monthly,
active
users
of
different
stages
or
different
features.
It
could
be
category
maturity,
upgrades
for
certain
categories
that
we're
working
on.
It
could
be
that
maybe
we
highlight
specific
features
or
epics
that
you
know
that
are
key
to
the
deployment
direction,
or
maybe
a
mix
of
those
things
but
yeah.
B
I
wanted
to
wanted
to
see
what
you
all
thought
about
that
and
then
once
you
know
once
if
we
figure
that
out
anytime
soon,
we
could
do
potentially
a
readout
now
that
we
well
after
we
finish
q1,
where
we
stand
against
those
milestones.
C
Yeah
super
super
awesome
topic
and
I'm
so
sorry
to
leave.
That's
all
of
it
with
the
kpi.
C
That
would
be
awesome
if
you
can
come
up
with
something,
but
for
that
we
would
need
to
have
just
a
clear
goal
that
we
want
to
reach
because
right
now,
what?
What
comes
to
my
mind
is
that
even
we
don't
even
have
a
clear
idea
of
the
expected
user
flow
at
the
end,
so
we
can't
even
validate
even
in
terms
of
a
ux
maturity
scorecard
that
where
how
do
we?
C
How
do
we
score
today
on
on
death
because
we
don't
have
it
set,
but
the
other
items?
I
think
I
I
see
them
kind
of
actionably.
Even
today,
like
the
category
maturity,
we
could
say
that
these
are
the
cases
we
just
pulled
under
that.
C
Do
we
expect
to
move
any
of
those
categories
soon
and
the
epic
is
even
more
actionable
because
it's
even
simpler,
it
sounds
super
awesome,
actually
the
whole
topic,
but
I
really
have
to
leave
some.
Unfortunately,.
A
We
kind
of
have
documented
some
of
these.
This
never
paid
attention
to
the
goals
and
frankly,
execution
has
been
the
start
of
it
has
been
really
slow,
so
we
couldn't
make
as
much
progress
as
possible.
So
maybe
we
can
just
kind
of
bring
starting
with
brainstorm
of
category
maturity
and
specific
I
mean
maybe
not
even
brainstorm
just
list
out
some
of
the
things
we
see
category
maturity
and
specific
epic
completion
as
part
of
this
exercise
now,
but
before
we
do
that.
A
B
As
a
as
like
that
that
one
you're
interested
because
to
show
like
our
team,
growth
and
investment,
is
that
the
idea
or.
A
Because,
given
maybe
it's
not
useful,
I'm
thinking
about
the
fact
that
we,
with
our
existing
people,
we've
been
just
keeping
the
lights
on
yeah.
Releasing
particulars
like
we
spent
most
of
the
end
of
last
financial
year,
trying
to
fix
pages
right
yeah
that
we
do
much
else
not
really
spend
q1
half
of
it.
Trying
to
onboard.
A
B
Yeah,
that's
a
I
see
what
you're
saying
now.
I
think
it's
more
of
like
a
it's
like
it's
sort
of
like
a
health.
Almost
it's
got
team
health
or
something.
B
A
B
B
A
B
How
about
continuous
verification.
A
B
I
wonder
sorry,
I've
sort
of
had
a
random
thought
that
I'll
just
add
here.
A
For
victor,
but
that's
a
good
one
to
do
with
the
more
people
we
have
do
you
do
you
think
you
can
project
potential
quarters,
I'm
going
right
or
what
is
what
your
targets
are.
B
Yeah,
I
I
mean
I
have
I've,
been
updating
the
our
our
handbook
updates
yeah
the
date
I
could.
B
Up-
and
we
could
see
if
those
are
the
right-
or
you
know
that
those
make
sense
still
okay
category.
Where
is
that
final
maturity.
A
B
Yeah
I
I've
heard
for
one
phrase,
maybe
a
harsher
phrase.
Like
half
baked,
you
know,
feels
incomplete
heels,
half
bait,
I'm
trying
to
think
of
trying
to
think
of
that.
B
Yeah
one
of
our
one
of
our
large
customers
said
that,
oh,
I
could
see
him
say
that
incomplete.
B
B
B
B
A
B
B
I'll
write
this,
but
then
we
could
debate
it.
I
was
going
to
say
like
well
like
well
connected
like
with
the
rest
of
the
tool
right,
I
think
that's
a
differentiator
like
deployments,
make
sense
in
the
with,
along
with
all
the
other
stuff
we're
doing
in
gitlab.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
write
that,
but
like
releases
and
environments
are
connected
and
like
verification,
it's
not
all
these
disparate
pieces,
like
I
guess
well
connected-
helps
facility.
B
A
A
So
we
have
aggressive
goals
for
fy24.
What
does
that
look
like.
B
I
think
deployment
workflow
wait,
do
you
wrote,
did
you
write
somewhat
seamlessly?
Oh
no.
You
took
it
out.
A
B
A
B
A
B
A
B
Yeah
sounds
good
cool
yeah.
Definitely
yeah
I'll
create
an
issue.
It's
not
are
we
leaning
towards
category
maturity
and
epic
completion
it
feels
like,
or
as
the.
A
A
Good
yeah,
but
it
doesn't
count
like,
for
example,
the
number
of
times
the
the
agent
is
syncing.
What's
it
get
versus,
what's
in
the
cluster,
like
you
may
get
that
to
measure
and
move
into
deployment,
yeah
kind
of
deployments,
yeah
that
we
get
really
close
and
then
we
add,
like
oh,
the
number
of
times,
gets
through
the
tunnel
to
do
something.
A
Probably
consider
that
a
deployment
yeah,
actually,
if
we
add
a
few
of
the
bigger
things
we
may
be
right
there-
maybe
that
might
not
be
true
and
then
we
can
have
a
chart,
as
is
the
number
of
deployments,
went
from
300
000
per
day
or
whatever
number
is
to
2.5
million,
or
something
like
that.
That'd
be
amazing.
B
Yeah,
I
wonder
another
one
other
one
is,
I
don't
know
if
we
still.
B
We
kind
of
moved
away,
I
think
in
one
of
the
pi
meetings,
maybe
two
two
of
them
ago,
but
like
the
golden
journey
metric,
like
the
adoption
of
our
stages,
I
think
that's
probably
a
good
that
could
be
a
good
indicator
of
our
bill.
You
know
our
progress
towards
making
deployments
like
more
better
yeah,
I
guess
just
better
or
more
of
our
customers
adopting
it
too
right
and
all
all
these
are
correlated
anyway,
the
number
of
deployments,
and
but
that's
probably,
that
could
be
another
good
one
to
think
about
and
consider
yeah
yeah.
A
This
great
start,
thank
you
for
raising
this
topic
yeah.
This
is
fun.
We
can
skip
the
last
one.
I
always
think
there's
not
too
many
topics.
Let's
talk
about
like
because
workflows
are
fundamentally
hard
to
displace
yeah.
What
are
curious,
you've
had
experience
on
strategies
how
to
get
started.
B
A
A
B
B
Like
like,
again
easy
to
say,
sort
of
like
like
kind
of
like
aha
magic,
like
aha
moments
or
like
just
even
the
lighters
right,
I
think
those
are.
I
think
that
could
be
another
approach,
that's
sort
of
like
products
code
of
ideas,
but
I
think
it's
similar
right,
like
you
know
what
makes
it
sort
of
magical
in
our
tool
versus
another.
A
B
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
you'd
want
them
to
feel
sort
of
yeah,
maybe
a
mix
of
like
surprise
and
some
sort
of
surprise
and
joy,
and
I
guess
it
depends
on
what
we're
talking
about
but
like
oh,
that
was
really
cool
like
I
think
those
are
sort
of
all
the
feelings
you
went
on
to
evoke
when
when
using
something
yeah
or
that
it's
like,
or
it's
like
it's
special
or
unique.
Maybe
those
are
another
thing
and
something
something
that's
different.
B
I
feel
like
it's
still
for
me.
I
feel
like
good,
aha
moments
for
git
lab
or
like
when
we
can,
when
really
when
I,
when
we
can
connect
stuff
right
like
there's
like
a
hypothetical
or
a
future
example
like
we
have
continuous
verification
which
discovered
a
bug
which
created
an
issue
right.
That's
that's
like
that's
magical
almost.
B
A
I
mean
yeah,
there
are
some
that's
potentially
lower
hanging
fruit,
for
example
like
connecting
a
release
to
a
deployment.
Yeah.
That's
like
the
mvc
may
not
be
that
hard
yeah.
You
should
probably
just
go
and
do
it.
Okay,.
B
A
B
B
B
Like
I
liked
that
you
I
liked
your
was
it
mvc
of
like
adding
the
comment
to
the
timeline
like
that
was
pretty
that's
cool.
I
think
that's,
that's!
That's
pretty.
It
makes
things
like
easier.