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From YouTube: Release Management - UX/FE review: Support release association to group milestones

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Rayana and Jake discuss proposals for https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/121476

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Right cool, so I'll go over the figma prototype again. If this you already there.

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I'm in insurance means I know exactly what you're looking at so again, while I was cleaning out the prototypes for.

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Adding room, I'll, Center, release I realized that this scope, at least one that was proposing, was a bit too too large. So I want you to ignore this first page of you know creating a new release at the group level. That's something that I think I should open animation for and I want to go back to this view. You can see the follow me here.

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Just the edit really really is view.

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So previously we talked about having some sort of, but if all this, that navigation right right so and I think last time we had a scene, we mentioned that's good to check box. The check boxes, form inputs, that users can select group milestones and project milestones, but then I was looking again at how we do it. It lab- and my first thing I want to propose- is to keep the same component, but then instead show all type of milestones in the same selector the same way as it happens when you create an issue.

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So if you open here- and you see X number lightens up in 2011 one and when you search you search for Bones group milestones in project monsters, that's a pristine and also a small addition here, help text in case we think that's necessary so that people know that now we can select more things. I, don't think that's really super necessary, but it will be nice to give them an overview or at least change that date. You can all do this in this I think it's a joke.

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Drop-Down so my first question to you is: is that feasible and what do you think makes vertical straight.

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Think that I think that having a single drop down in just combo box that lists both of the group milestones and logic milestones, is definitely possible. I think that I think we that we can be kind of clever with how we prefix they were like namespace each milestone.

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So that if a group milestone project milestone like share a name, we don't want those two names to either collide.

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So it might be handy to like say, like the name of the group, slash milestone and then like the name of the project, slash milestone or possibly have a divider between the two and, like surely, project milestones on top or a word and like group milestones on bottom or vice versa. So we can do either of those we can have.

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We can have like a namespace before the milestone name so that it's clear whether or not it's working for a project or we can do a sort of divider and just have the groups in one section and the projects in another section.

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But do you know which, for which would be you Nathan is working on? Also updating is this component then he's adding a counter and actual separators for like each milestone, type right.

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Yeah I know Nathan is working on something but I'm blanking on what exactly what exactly it is at the moment, I.

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Actually made a request, let me see if I can find this quickly.

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Yes, branches, bukidnon, yeah,.

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This will behavior once he's done. I think.

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That that would work perfect for this case, and then we can have like being acidic projects at the top yeah and groups at the bottom or according their way, around.

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So so we can use.

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One of the things that my aims them to do like okay, I, don't think this is the most exciting user interaction, especially that in this case, for example, I, don't know you can have thousands and thousands off of relatives and rats and everything in this one drop down component, but also I, think towards a super valid embassy for us and I want.

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But I wonder if we would be unlike a step to at first, we can do the same behavior as we do now with issues and then, once nathan is a everything's working fine or with these option with the separator we introduced.

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Go what do you think.

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I'm, what I'm kind of just wondering if, if it's worth really suffering it out or if it's more, it would be I kind of feeling that that that separator, a question that they that's working on will probably be ready soon. Right so do you I mean? Maybe it's worth just kind of planning just to use that right away, or do you to do anything that, having that iterative look Road to be better.

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Then the way we select milestones cross abroad would be different, so I'm just wondering the impact. You know the friction that we're going to introduce Irene this behavior I'm having.

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Handle and say for me: it's more polished, it's a bit more evident, but.

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I'm also, okay,.

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Three, four: even more because in the issues emerging quest you have on the sidebar and that's going to be different. Now this one make sure that we don't need to expect consistency. Yeah.

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Yeah I think that yeah I mean I, see your point, I think I think doing being more consistent and I'm kind of working. Our way to to like slowly introducing a change all even way to go.

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Team, when I myself to check with the designers we can move on I want to move forward amid this the option and then in the meantime, I can try to get more feedback or at least to see I don't know. Maybe the Glenn team was already planning something for this. This drop down, yeah.

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Just get your ebooks here.

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Coolio and then the next point is actually a couple of questions that I have around the interaction and maybe their function. The technicalities of this functionality so just want to confirm that. Yes, if we have now votes group and project milestones, users will be able to select multiple projects in multiple group milestones. In this view, because Robyn right now, you can add more than one project muscle faster.

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If we want to do that with the group items that that would be possible, yeah.

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It would definitely be possible I'm curious to see how nathan is actually setting that up in its component, because when we add all these values to its drop-down and we hit that Save Changes by and we actually have to like make sure that the values where the project milestone goes to the project API one for the group milestone, goes to the group API and so I mean it's that's 100% possible. It's just not something that this component offers at the moment, and so I want to see how maybe Nathan is handling that, with his update.

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Think keep that as an acceptance criteria.

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Cuz right now, this component kind of access, just like one box of values when you hit save it, just takes that box values and sends it to a single API. We have to split those values up essentially and I mean it's 100%, 100% feasible. It's just a matter of building it out.

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So next one.

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It's about overriding values so in a way related to the previous point, this this question here so can we make sure that if a project, my students, elected updating or selective milestone won't override, so you just should be able to select while selecting a milestone.

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Let's say you have a pre selection. You add another item. While does another idea under the second Ecology's yeah.

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Yeah that behavior should be possible. That's that's the behavior that I would kind of expect that, like if you, if you select the only I, think the only way that uh that a milestone should be removed after you selected. It is by clicking on that milestone again to deselect. It.

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Doesn't look like the milestone is currently selected in this comics like it's like in a hover State.

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We definitely show.

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Next one, it's actually so the behavior stay, as is so here you see the first one.

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When you reopen, you see first, the IDS are selected on top and then the next ones same behavior, not teaching these another theme here is that, since we are at the project, level in this is sporting. Edit page is not create early seventies in the editing. When the user puts the max weight anymore management students, they are taken to the project milestone pages so before when I had two components to selectors, the page was likely. They need to go here, need to go there.

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So I think we should just leave everything at the project level, since we are still associated group releases to do milestones to project it uses so.

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The next one is actually how you see this information.

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So now that you have your milestone to this release, we're going to need to show it in this view, and also the counter of issues and the Brewers part. You need to be updated to reflect this.

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The data for the group Muslim, and we don't have that some difference and we see but yeah.

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So my questions are really like doing I know this adds more effort waste if you foresee any infraction here. Any challenges.

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So, just just so I know how this component works currently, basically, if a milestone is closed, it gets marked as completed. Is that what happens charlie, so yeah I think we can definitely extend extend this basically check for the status of group and project milestones and I'm just aggregate like the sum of all of them and then calculate that percentage of completed of completion.

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In the future, once you have sort of issue, so you have let people have. You have 2,000 issues anyway. Also gonna have some urgent quests here at some point, so all these counters they need to reflect all the items, all the medicine you might be supposed to do, but these are group milestone. Let's say that you, like it laughs, you have I think now he is mostly project milestones. I, don't think! That's a great example, but let's say that's your project. Milestone is inside from a personal mission sergeant I.

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Think my question is: if these values for the override, if a project Muslim, can be linked to okay.

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I see I see the case there so like a project that group milestone is related to a project milestone and what happens it like the project Mouse like if there's gonna groom, also not have multiple project milestones with it. So what happens if, like group milestone 1, contains project milestone, 1 and project milestone, 2.

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Project my little ones closed, but not to and they're both here, yeah, ok, I can kind of see the kind of like conflict of what happens here. I.

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Don't have an answer for that at the moment. I think that you might have to think about this a little bit more and try to come up with solution.

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You have a group milestone and then you see all this issues, that's potentially are also added to the project. Milestone. I think you just need to make sure that the counter, and then you know this complete.

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And of the day, my brain is like the progress bar. It's.

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A day for you and beginning the day for me, zaboor, my braids are kind of kind of sink right now,.

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But anyway, just make sure that the counters they calculate what they're supposed to calculate yeah.

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There should be an issue yeah.

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I mean I think that we can probably find some sort of some sort of boring, boring solution for this, but um I don't want to just I. Don't want to try to come up with something right now and commit to it without thinking it through a little bit more.

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When I start looking at these, and also looking at how the milestone page behaves like.

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Difficult than expected, because also when I.

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I, look at the milestone page I. Try to show you something! That's what a minutes! Two minutes, please yeah! Look at the this is project. Mouse engage right. You also have releases here and ideally we should also introduce this behavior to the group marched on page, where you can add your releases from here, etcetera, so I think a lot of pieces of the puzzle. They're missing I have some issues created for this, but it might yeah.

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My main concern is that make sure that we keep the the behavior it standardized or how users add and also see all these items here. Yeah.

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I mean make sure we're counting everything the same way.

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Because I think at some point, you're gonna need to link to the group page for this. You know for the issues.

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The merger quests much like that's how I don't.

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It went to the issue when it was when it was on, but I'm, not when I'm dissing sure.

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You're gonna have to see everything I've been blown, so this wants me to change what you see now, because you don't have the due date. You're working yeah didn't happen in here. Yeah we go to the roof view the project the most is mastery, that's pretty much! It's nothing really changes with the rest of the page. Once people remove these to the create really use me for missing awesome.

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I think that the own, the only thing with that that progress bar view, I guess, is like, if you have say, there's like three milestones, so you have your group while someone and then project my also wanted to I can definitely kind of see where it might seem a bit confusing. If your group milestone is related to project miles, don't want into you.

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Is complete, so you have three milestones but by completing one you're, almost your pace, we have fifty percent completion or or do we just want to say like do? We just want to say that a completion is when a milestone is close, so project milestone. One would.

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And the group my office, anyone would have to be close and if project milestone, 2 is still open.

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When issues are.

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So is automatically closed. All.

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Me to close the milestone manually, so if you look at, for example, do you have one of them get lab match thumbs up in here anyway?.

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Not sure exactly what the criteria that see this one, this one issues your complete yeah.

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Yeah keeps to be a hundred percent and open. It doesn't really. Okay.

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Long as the issues are all delivered, because the milestone really gives you this this time box view for what is planned versus accomplished within your beliefs. So the milestone date, for example, can expire like in this case right or made I. Don't know why we don't have any Muslims here, so they can expire, but they can still remain open. I.

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Don't think that's the actual criteria, yeah.

C

That makes it a lot of Sun Tzu's basic by issue. Count I, think that actually kind of simplifies things quite a bit. I think we're just we're just getting percent completion by issue count of the I guess of all all the project milestones right.

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What it does I guess, there's no other issues are tied only to group milestones, but not project milestones.

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I can associate I, see.

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So I'm sure I'm fairly certain that the answer it's going to be somewhere along the lines of just keeping track of all the issues and where they came from, but yeah I think is gonna, be somewhere along along the slides, I think it just it's. Gonna just require a little bit more thought. An investigation.

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But in general for the end-user in UI I think money should change.

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When we hover cuz I think actually, when you hover now, you see closed issues, I'm, not sure, if yeah, if we need to identify anything. You know from from this point that your milestones our project and good milestone, so that your issue counters for every yep.

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Sense should go like a feedback we can. We can iterate on that, but close issues so should be whatever D yeah.

C

That makes a lot of sense tonight. Thank you for clarifying that.

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You also enter any questions, so I'm gonna go a to that and with this one, I'm going to use NATO's proposal just for certainly discuss is making proposal in the issue description, assuming that that's going to be ready, but if it's theirs for some reason, there's a problematic to fall back with me, the same behavior has the milestone selector, that we have them right now, new issues that shows something like this just default and all right everything that we discussed an update the acceptance criteria in that issue.

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Today we validate it and please you wait who's. That me know.

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