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From YouTube: GitLab's Universal Remote webcast: Maximizing the Reset
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The remote work experience allows companies and individuals the opportunity to reset and rethink. Join GitLab's Head of Remote, Darren Murph, as he discusses with Megan Dilley, Director of the Remote Work Association, about how those afforded the chance to work from home can maximize the space away from the office and how to bring up flex-work in the future.
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A
What
I
have
learned
is
that
I
need
much
less
to
be
happy
right
down
to
the
clothes
on
my
back.
You
know.
I
came
here
with
ski
clothes
and
I
wear
like
the
same
clothes
every
day,
because
I
ordered
a
pair
of
shorts
because
it
got
hot.
You
know
like,
but
it's
it's
just
it's
simple.
It's
back
to
basics,
and
it
just
feels
like
this
kind
of
crust
that
gets
imprinted
on
your
brain.
It
can
be
like
shakin
away
by
all
of
this.
If
you,
if
you
let
it
become
that,
for
you.
B
Hello
and
welcome
to
universal
remote,
a
webcast
from
gitlab,
where
we
invite
very
interesting,
very
insightful
people
in
the
remote
work
community
to
share
their
tips
and
tricks
on
remote,
I'm,
Dara,
Murphy,
I'm,
the
head
of
remote
at
gate
lab
and
on
this
episode.
We're
gonna
be
talking
about
maximizing
the
reset
rethinking
everything
now
that
the
genie
is
out
of
the
bottle
and
the
great
remote
migration
has
started.
So
I
could
not
be
more
excited
to
welcome
Megan
dilly,
managing
director
of
the
remote
work
association
on
the
show
today.
So
Megan
thanks.
B
A
Thanks
so
much
for
having
me
Darrin,
this
is
such
an
exciting
conversation,
I'm,
so
passionate
about
so
I'm
Megan
dilly
I'm,
the
director
of
the
remote
work
association,
and
we
are
a
professional
association
for
leaders
and
remote
work.
So
these
are
thought
leaders
and
advocates
who
are
really
working
hard
to
push
the
industry
forward,
providing
best
practice
to
ensure
that
we're
setting
up
remote
work,
businesses
for
sustainable
remote
work
models
that
have
positive
impacts
on
economies
in
the
environment
and
so
on.
A
So
that's
a
little
bit
about
the
remote
work,
Association
and
and
what
I
do
there
I've
been
working
remotely
myself
for
the
past
two
and
a
half
years,
so
a
relative
newcomer
to
the
space
I
would
say,
but
you
know
with
everything,
that's
gone
on
with
kovat
I,
guess
that
makes
me
a
veteran
and
compared
to
a
lot
of
people
as
of
late
but
yeah.
Well,.
B
A
My
fiancee
and
I
came
up
to
the
Lake
Tahoe
area,
just
to
have
a
couple
weeks
of
skiing
with
his
mom
because
she
rents
a
house
appear-
and
this
was
prior
to
everything
hitting
the
fan
was
kovat
and
and
as
shelter-in-place
orders
were
starting
to
come
down,
we
kind
of
looked
at
each
other
and
said:
do
we
go
home
to
San
Francisco?
You
know
we've.
A
We
sure
we
only
have
like
our
ski
clothes
and
you
know,
but
we
have
our
dog
dog
Valley
back
there
she's
here
you
know
so
like
we
don't
really
have
to
go
home
to
get
anything,
we
can
put
our
mail
on
hold.
We
can
ask
our
neighbor
to
water,
our
plants
like,
what's
really
stopping
us
from
staying
here,
and
so
we
found
a
house
to
rent
we're
actually
quarantined
here
with
a
couple
of
our
friends,
and
we
were
just
in
this
process
of
like
continually
extending
how
long
we
stay
as
we
were.
A
You
know
to
San
Francisco
and
be
in
a
place
that
doesn't
have
currently
all
of
the
benefits
for
for
why
you
would
be
there
and
just
be
stuck
in
our
apartment,
we've
always
kind
of
dreamed
about
having
a
more
rural
lifestyle
living
on
a
farm
and
being
out
in
nature
and
we'd
loved
San
Francisco,
because
it
afforded
us
the
ability
to
get
to
nature
really
quickly,
and
so
we'd
always
have
this
idea
of
in
an
ideal
world.
Let's
live
in
our
San
Francisco
apartment
during
the
week
and
we'll
hopefully
buy
a
piece
of
land.
A
You
know
just
outside
the
city
and
we'll
build
a
tiny
house
on
it
and
we'll
go
visit.
It
and
we'll
have
our
garden
there
and
we'll
come
back
to
the
city
during
the
week.
This
was
even
both
my
fiance
and
I.
Our
remote
workers,
we
still
just
felt
like
our
life,
was
in
the
city
and
then
you
know
everything
happened
and
we've
had
this
experience
of
being
able
to
live
in
Tahoe
the
past
three
months,
and
we
start
looking
at
each
other.
We
say
like
well.
A
Why
don't
we
flip
that
on
its
head
and
instead
of
saying,
let's
drive
to
the
mountains
on
the
weekend
or
let's
get
out
of
the
city
on
the
weekend?
Why
don't
we
go
to
the
city
on
the
weekend?
You
know
why?
Don't
we
live
the
majority
of
our
life
in
a
place
that
really
fills
us
up
with
nature
and
exercise
and
better
health
for
five
out
of
the
seven
days
and
be
more
intentional
about
going
to
experience
those
culture
building
activities,
the
great
restaurants
we
love
and
just
be
okay
with
a
slower
lifestyle.
A
For
example,
our
dog
hasn't
been
on
a
leash
in
the
last
three
months
and
we're
thinking
we're
gonna
be
going
back
to
San
Francisco
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks
to
like
get
our
mail
and
kind
of
reset,
and
then
we're
gonna
probably
go
on
a
little
adventure
to
explore
the
western
US
and
find
some
places
that
might
be
good
for
us
to
buy
land
and
maybe
build
the
stream
farm.
But
I'm
like
how
can
we
live
in
San
Francisco?
This
dog
can't
be
on
a
leash
like
this
just
doesn't
match
right.
B
Yeah,
like
once
once
Unchained
always
Unchained,
it's
it's
difficult
to
think
of
going
back
and
I.
Think
that's
one
of
the
things
that's
so
fascinating
about
what
has
happened
through
kovat,
which
is
millions
of
people,
have
had
their
eyes
open
to
what
it's
like
to
do
things
differently,
even
in
suboptimal
conditions.
This
isn't
everyone's
ideal
way
to
work
remotely,
but
they've
at
least
had
their
notion
of
I'm
tied
to
this
rigidity.
B
I'm
tied
to
this
commute,
it
dictates
five
out
of
the
seven
days
of
my
week
now
that
that
isn't
the
case,
everyone
can
collectively
unlock
their
imaginations
and
ask
themselves
similar
questions
and
I
was
just
curious
in
your
work,
especially
now.
What
are
you
hearing
from
people
in
terms
of
empowerment,
I?
Think
one
of
the
the
biggest
things
for
me
is.
This
is
a
democratizing
experience.
B
A
And
I
think
it's
a
really
good
point
that
you
bring
up
that
this
experience
has
been
so
different
for
everybody.
You
know,
I,
don't
have
children
right,
so
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
balancing
my
workday
and
homeschooling,
my
kids
and
all
of
the
other
things
I've
been
able
to
really
focus
in
on
my
work
and
focus
in
on
those
hobbies
that
really
fill
me
up
and
so
I
think
it
definitely
looks
very
different
for
everybody.
But
it's
just
been
an
incredible
opportunity
for
people
to
really
reflect
and
say
what's
kind
of
like
the
minimum.
A
Viable
needs
right
to
be
happy
and
how
do
I
just
like
cut
all
the
clutter
out
of
my
life
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
with
our
friends
that
are
here
with
us,
and
it
felt
weird
to
admit
that
I
was
like
I
like
not
having
social
engagements
on
the
calendar
and
I.
Don't
know
how
I'm
gonna
transition
back
into
that
world
of
we
can
socialize
again,
like
am
I
gonna,
be
that
person
who
just
says
no
all
the
time,
because,
like
no
I,
don't
want
to
be
that.
A
But
what
I
have
learned
is
that
I
need
much
less
to
be
happy
right
down
to
the
clothes
on
my
back.
You
know.
I
came
here
with
ski
clothes
and
I
wear
like
the
same
clothes
every
day,
because
I
ordered
a
pair
of
shorts
because
it
got
hot.
You
know
like,
but
it's
it's
just
it's
simple.
It's
back
to
basics,
and
it
just
feels
like
this
kind
of
crust
that
gets
imprinted
on
your
brain.
It
can
be
like
shakin
away
by
all
of
this.
If
you,
if
you
let
it
become
that
for
you,
I.
B
Completely
agree:
we
were
discussing
earlier
that,
if
you,
if
you
convert
life
into
a
series
of
tally
marks,
you
can
fit
every
tally
mark
that
would
encapsulate
all
of
the
weekends
in
the
average
life
on
one
sheet
of
paper.
It's
the
point.
There
is
if
you're
living
life
for
just
those
weekends
life
gets
real
short,
real
and
remote
enables
you
to
not
only
pay
attention
to
what
isn't
really
important.
B
That
may
have
been
marketed
to
you
as
being
really
important
from
an
identity
standpoint
from
a
facade
standpoint,
but
also
it
just
enables
you
to
do
a
lot
more
living
when
you
don't
just
have
to
live
your
life
two
days
at
the
time.
Essentially-
and
you
touched
on
this
a
bit
but
I'm
curious,
if
you
have
any
tips
on
maximizing
the
time
that
we
are
sheltered
in
place,
I
know
I've
spoken
with
a
lot
of
people
when
they've
said
I'm
more
exhausted
than
ever.
B
I
feel
like
I'm
working
more
than
ever,
even
though
I'm
trying
to
prevent
myself
from
burnout,
the
computer
is
always
always
there
and
so
I'm
working
more
when
I
feel,
like
I,
really
should
be
spending
this
time
doing
something
else,
even
if
it's
just
be
engaging
with
my
significant
other
or
reading
or
meditating
or
resting
more.
What
tips
do
we
have
for
people
that
just
feel
like
they
can't
quite
disengage,
even
if
they
know
they
should
yeah.
A
It's
such
an
important
point
and
something
that
should
definitely
be
solved
for
and
I
think
you
know
it's
different
for
everyone
and
I
think
we
all
have
to
design
our
lives
around
the
things
that
are
most
important
and
then
kind
of
make
work
fit
into
that
and
for
me
I'm.
Definitely
one
of
those
remote
workers
that
enjoys
a
pretty
structured
business
day.
A
I'm,
not
the
person
who's
gonna
sleep
in
till
11:00
and
work
late
at
night,
like
I
like
to
get
up
in
the
morning
and
I
like
to
get
my
work
day
started
and
I
like
to
finish.
Work
and
I
like
to
go,
make
dinner
and
like
wind
down,
so
that's
very
structured
for
me,
but
what
I
do
fit
into
that
is
like
some
of
the
most
important
things
for
me
on
a
daily
basis.
Are
you
know,
I
set
my
alarm
everyday
at
like
6:30
or
7:00
a.m.
A
and
I
stick
to
that
structure,
and
then
the
first
thing
we
do.
My
fiance
and
I
is
we.
We
take
the
dog
out
for
a
walk
right
and
she
is
such
an
incredible
impetus
for
doing
that
and
holding
that
routine.
But
we
go
out
on
like
an
hour-long
walk
in
the
morning
and
that's
just
such
an
amazing
way
for
us
to
connect
talk
about
our
day,
talk
about
life
and
that's
not
something
we
were
doing
with
as
much
diligence
at
home
in
San
Francisco.
A
We
definitely
had
to
take
the
got
four
walk
in
the
morning,
but
we've
both
structured
our
day
to
say
like
no
matter
what,
like
we're,
not
gonna,
take
a
call
at
7:30
a.m.
unless
we
really
absolutely
have
to,
and
in
those
days
we
absolutely
have
to,
instead
of
all
right,
I'm
gonna
set
the
alarm
for
7:00
rush
have
some
breakfast
and
my
coffee
and
get
on
that
call.
A
It's
like
okay,
if
I've
agreed
to
a
call
at
7:30
the
thing
that
I
have
to
do
to
make
that
work
for
my
life
is
get
up
at
6:00
and
go
for
an
hour
long
walk
from
6:00
to
7:00.
So
it's
like
the
walk
has
to
happen.
We
come
together
for
lunch
in
the
middle
of
the
day,
like
we
put
our
laptops
away,
we
either
at
a
separate
table
from
our
workspace.
A
A
Have
these
little
breaks
in
the
day
to
do
those
things
that
provide
some
balance
and
make
me
feel
good
and
really
help
me
maximize
that
time
and
then
I
think
the
other
tip
I
would
give
to
people
besides,
just
really
being
diligent
about
that
structure
is
make
sure
that
you're
replacing
that
commute
hour
that
you
might
do
in
the
morning
and
the
evening
with
something
for
you,
like.
Don't
use
that
hour
to
do
more
work?
That's
gonna
put
you
on
the
path
to
burnout,
so
so
fast.
B
A
great
point
and
it's
I
can
see
how
that
would
be
tough
to
go
back
to
because
you
just
said
we
were
able
to
take
this
dedicated
hour-long
walk
in
the
morning
and
for
a
lot
of
people.
That's
in
place
of
the
commute.
So,
if
you've
been
able
to
enjoy
the
spoils
of
that
walk
for
the
last
two
or
three
months,
the
thought
of
deleting
it
from
your
life
and
reply
facing
it
with
a
commute.
B
Something
that's
not
very
enjoyable-
is
going
to
be
quite
daunting
and
hard
to
swallow
for
a
lot
of
people
and
I.
Think
that's
a
great
thing.
I
want
people
to
look
at
that
and
question
it
and
say:
do
I
really
need
to
reabsorb
that
commute,
because
now
I'm
but
I'm,
taking
a
step
backwards
from
a
health
standpoint
and
what
am
I
really
getting
I
was
able
to
accomplish
my
work
during
this
time
off.
B
Speaking
of
that
I'm
curious,
if
you
have
any
thoughts,
either
working
with
your
clients
or
just
some
peers
that
you've
talked
to
on
what
the
world
is
gonna
look
like
when
we
can
reopen,
and
some
businesses,
for
whatever
reason
do
say.
Like
we
want
some
amount
of
the
employees
back
in
the
office,
and
maybe
some
employees
do
want
to
go
back
into
the
office,
but
I
think
we're
gonna
be
left
with
a
more
hybrid
type
of
world,
a
more
flexible
and
fluid
type
of
world,
so
what's
vital
to
success.
B
A
It's
a
really
good
question
and
I
think
you're,
absolutely
right
that
we're
gonna
see
a
lot
of
adoption
of
hybrid
remote
work
models.
You
know,
we've
already
seen
a
lot
of
companies
make
and
San
Francisco
companies
in
particular,
which
makes
me
very
happy
to
see
them
starting
to
leave
the
way
there
because
I
think
San.
Francisco
companies
have
been
behind
the
curve
for
a
long
time,
especially
in
terms
of
remote.
A
Darren
is
a
hundred
percent
distributed
team
right,
like
hybrid,
brings
a
lot
of
challenges
that
need
to
be
managed,
and
you
know
it's
it's
sort
of
ensuring
from
a
remote
work
standpoint
that
you
are
still
remote
first
right
like
when
one
person's
remote
everyone's
remote,
so
you
really
have
to
design
your
operations
and
your
business
strategy
to
ensure
that
everyone
is
operating
in
a
remote
first
way,
even
if
they
are
the
office.
But
it's
great
I
love
that
there's
the
flexibility,
the
inherent
flexibility,
because
not
everyone
wants
to
work
in
their
home.
You
know
not.
A
Everyone
is
fortunate
enough
to
have
enough
workspace
at
home.
That
would
make
them
feel
comfortable
right.
So
many
offices
have
lovely
beautiful
spaces
and
it's
consistent
and
it's
safe
and
secure,
and
we
just
don't
know
you
know
the
experience
of
everyone
at
home
and
so
I
think
it's
really
wonderful
to
be
able
to
offer
that
opportunity
to
people
who
just
prefer
that
space
or
really
really
need
that
structure.
A
B
Such
a
good
point-
and
it
puts
into
perspective
that
this
isn't
us
versus
them
type
of
argument.
It's
not
like
remote
is
trying
to
win
the
world
here.
We're
just
appreciative
that
there's
more
flexibility
and
it's
a
more
open
conversation
than
it
has
been
in
the
past.
You
brought
up
a
great
point
that
I
think
is
worth
reiterating,
which
is
San
Francisco
for
a
long
time.
B
We've
actually
been
sharing
some
of
our
advice
and
tips
and
tricks
with
the
folks
at
Twitter,
and
they
have
an
amazing
team,
very
progressive
team,
even
as
far
back
as
last
year
in
2019
their
CEO
Jack.
This
one
tour
or
one
team
tour
around
the
world,
and
he
said
our
next
office
is
gonna,
be
remote.
We're
gonna
figure
this
out,
and
this
was
pre,
kovat
and
I.
Think
kool-aid
has
accelerated
that
and
I
I
give
them
a
lot
of
kudos.
For
taking
that
step
and
saying
this
is
what
we're
going
to
do.
B
We're
gonna
be
flexible
and
we're
gonna
allow
our
employees
to
make
that
choice,
because
they
are
being
a
pioneer
for
how
hybrid
can
be
done
at
scale
and
get
lab.
It's
one
thing
to
do
things
with
no
offices,
we've
been
all
remote
since
the
start,
but,
as
you
pointed
out,
it's
much
more
challenging
to
do
it
from
a
hybrid
standpoint,
and
everyone
else
seems
to
be
waiting
for
one
company
to
go
first
and
with
Twitter
going
first
I.
B
Think
a
lot
of
other
companies
will
feel
safe,
falling
behind
them,
because
they'll
see
that
we're
in
this
together.
As
a
cohort
of
companies,
let's
figure
this
out
in
the
best
way
possible
and
I.
Think
a
few
years
from
now,
we're
gonna
be
really
appreciative
that
that
step
was
taken
because
I
think
it
will
have
advanced
remote
and
advanced
inclusivity
in
the
workplace
in
a
in
a
significant
way.
100%.
B
B
Too
many
people
there
already
the
public
services
were
really
strained.
It
wouldn't
be
the
worst
thing
to
have.
Some
of
those
people
were
relocated
out
and
it
may
even
actually
make
room
for
those
that
have
been
displaced
to
move
back
into
their
own
home
cities,
whether
that's
Seattle,
San,
Francisco
or
New
York,
and
contribute
back
to
the
city
which
had
been
populated
frankly
with
people
that
were
only
there
for
work.
So
I
think
it's
a
win
all
the
way
around.
B
It
may
take
a
few
years
to
see
the
effects
of
that
I
wanted
to
ask
you
for
those
that
want
to
continue
working
remotely,
but
maybe
the
leadership
is
a
bit
more
hesitant
to
commit
to
that.
Maybe
they're
going
to
say,
look
as
soon
as
we
can
reopen
everyone
back
to
the
office,
no
exceptions.
What
would
you
recommend
in
terms
of
people
that
want
to
pursue
or
maintain
a
remote
lifestyle,
but
they
need
to
build
a
case
to
the
leadership
short
of
finding
another
company
where
leadership
is
more
minimal.
Obviously,
that's
the
ideal
situation,
but.
A
It's
a
great
question
and
I
think
as
you
started
to
allude
to
it,
is
important
to
speak
to
your
management
in
your
leadership
in
business
terms.
You
know
and
really
make
the
business
case
for
why
remote
is
a
benefit.
You
know.
A
great
fact
that
you
can
throw
around
is
the
latest.
Research
has
shown
that
on
average
for
every
part-time,
remote
worker
you
have
for
the
business,
you
save
eleven
thousand
dollars
in
overhead
a
year.
A
So
you
do
the
math
on
that
for
a
full-time
employee,
that's
about
twenty
two
thousand
dollars
per
full-time
employee
per
year,
just
saved
on
overhead
and
office
expenses
supplies.
You
know
all
of
those
sorts
of
things,
so
that's
real
dollars
that
people
are
saving,
and
in
this
time
where
you
know
business
continuity
has
been
up
in
the
air.
You
know
a
lot
of
businesses
have
remained
successful,
but
a
lot
of
businesses
have
been
hit
hard.
You
know
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
your
leadership
is
gonna,
be
thinking
about.
A
I'd
also
say
you
know
just
get
curious
right,
like
everyone's
talking
about
remote
right
now.
So
absolutely
your
managers
and
leaders
have
been
thinking
about
it,
so
ask
them
what
their
take
is.
You
know
ask
them
what
they
think
about
remote
and
if
they
think,
there's
a
place
for
it
in
your
company
long
term
get
them
talking
about
it
here,
where
they're
coming
from
and
I
think
you
can
engage
in
a
more
effective
conversation
about
what
it
looks
like
moving
forward
and
there's
tons
of
resources
out
there
about
how
to
remote
best
practice.
A
A
I'd
love
to
see
it:
okay,
cool
on
the
unplug
here,
not
trip
over
my
chair,
okay!
Well,
first,
this
is
my
dog
Nelly
she's
taken
a
nap
so
in
my
temporary
workspace.
This
is
my
my
desk
area.
Here.
It's
actually
much
larger
than
my
desk
at
home,
which
is
wonderful,
I
yeah!
That's
going
to
be
hard
for
me
to
go
back
to
my
San
Francisco
tiny
office,
I'm
gonna.
Take
you
guys
out
into
like
the
living
area.
You
can
see
right,
come
and
play
with
my
sourdough
starter,
I.
Think.
A
B
A
B
A
Gosh
I
know
it's
those
little
things
like
space
that
you
take
for
granted
and
I
was
saying
and
I'll
have
to
share
this
with
my
parents,
but
we
haven't
experienced
having
such
like
a
large
space
to
ourselves
outside
of
being
like
at
home
in
our
parents,
home
and
I.
Think
this
is
the
first
time
for
us
or
were
like
oh
face
does
matter.
B
B
It
just
goes
to
prove
that
there's
no
putting
the
genie
back
in
the
bottle,
and
you
have
people
like
you
that
are
experiencing
this
for
the
first
time,
but
you
have
millions
of
people
that
are
having
similar
experience
and
I.
Think
that's
gonna
do
wonders
for
the
stickiness
of
remote
going
forward.
Alright.
So
last
question
you've
been
very
gracious
with
your
time.
What's
one
good
thing,
you've
seen
heard
or
experienced
this
month,
yeah.
A
A
B
Megan,
thank
you
so
very
much
for
joining
me
in
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