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A
B
B
Well,
let's
get
the
show
on
the
road,
then
do
we
have
we
don't
have
griff
or
a
willy
this
morning.
C
A
Cool
I'm
feeling
good.
I
slept
yesterday
for
the
first
time
in
three
days
I
swear
my
focus
for
the
week
is
well
kind
of
my
focus
for
the
week.
I'm
gonna
be
a
little
bit
distracted
because
I'm
traveling
to
europe
on
like
driving
on
thursday
flying
until
friday,
so
I'm
gonna
be
a
little
bit
out,
but
other
than
that
my
focus
for
the
week.
I'm
gonna
try
to
finish
the
circles
and
the
values
and
the
trace
launch
priority
for
governance.
D
E
Hey
guys
good
morning
feeling
good
yeah
you're
same
as
lauren
this
week,
I'm
going
to
try
to
get
everything
done
by
thursday,
because
europe
is
happening
by
that
weekend.
E
F
Hi
good
morning,
I'm
just
returned
home
to
the
valley.
Last
night
my
mom
was
here
in
costa
rica
for
a
week
visiting,
so
I'm
kind
of
settling
back
from
that
this
week,
donna
and
I
are
intending
to
connect
and
and
begin
with
her
onboarding
into
pm,
with
the
give
token
economy,
circle
and
we'll
be
kind
of
working
together
to
get
her
comfortable,
yeah
and
I'm
gonna
be
going
through
github
and
getting
things
organized
and
yeah,
hopefully
launching
trace
this
week.
I
don't
have
anything
to
add
for
governance.
F
I
think
we
have
quite
a
few
things
on
our
list,
but
yeah.
I
definitely
would
love
to
talk
about
the
the
like
clarifying
the
process,
especially
as
we've
been
like
deep
in
documentation,
and
I
will
looks
like
everyone
has
gone
I'll
pass
it
back
to
you,
danny.
C
Feeling
pretty
good
well,
actually
I
have
a
wounded
wing.
I'm
left-handed
in
my
left
arm
I
slipped
and
had
a
fall
early
last
week,
so
I'm
still
still
having
to
be
gentle
with
myself,
but
I'm
excited
to
hear
you
guys
are
going
to
paris
and
jealous,
but
also
know
that
I
can't
pull
that
off
right
now.
C
C
Yeah,
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
feeling
too
is
that
we
can
share
our
perspectives
and
maybe
come
up
with
a
recommendation
and
then
put
it
through
the
proposal
process.
C
C
Awesome
so
one
of
the
things-
I
guess
I
didn't
put
this
into
the
agenda,
but
we
have
we
have
a
proposal
section,
let's
see
and
a
support
section
and
forum
feedback,
but
maybe
we
should
that
we
have
an
open
activity
to
think
about
what
our
categories
and
tags
should
be.
C
Now
that
we
have
our
circles.
That
was
just
something
that
occurred
to
me.
C
C
D
C
C
F
C
C
And
this
was
something
we
were
talking
a
lot
about
the
other
day
that
we
should
expect
that
some
proposals,
most
proposals
even
might
fail
like
because
there's
a
proposal
going
through
having
competing
proposals
is
okay.
Having
proposals
rejected
is
great.
Let's
just
get
the
ones
that
are
important.
Past.
C
So
then
the
everybody
else
thoughts
around
how
to
organize
better
like
right.
Now
we
just
let's
see
proposals,
support
on
categories.
Do
you
guys
here's
here's,
a
thought
that
I
was
thinking
so
in
sociocracy
there
are
proposals
that
can
be
passed
within
a
circle
that
don't
have
to
go
all
the
way
up
to
everybody.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
things.
Communications
can
decide
themselves,
but
we
don't
really
have
a
way
to
do
that
on
aragon,
but
I
would
think
that
even
just
here
within
the
forum,
it
would
be
adequate.
C
Do
you
guys
see
where
it
would
be
beneficial
to
have
sections
for
the
circles
here
for
circles
to
discuss
things
first
transparently,
or
do
you
think
just.
G
G
We
can
set
up-
and
we
talked
about
this
a
little
bit,
but
we
could
set
up
topics
as
subcategories
where
proposals
like
the
parent
category
and
then
when
you
click
on
it,
you'll
have
each
of
the
different
circles
and
you
can
kind
of
dive
into
the
circles
and
then
just
like
you're
saying
I
do
think
it's
beneficial
for
not
for
to
have
these
layers
to
have
some
organizational
structure
so
that
every
proposal
to
the
doubt,
every
proposal
to
get
one
individual
paid,
for
instance,
doesn't
have
to
go
all
the
way
up.
G
G
Funding
from
the
dow
go
to
the
trace
campaign
and
then
the
campaign
manager
would
basically
be
like
the
circle
leader.
If
you
want
to
have.
This
could
allocate
the
funding,
however,
they
see
fit
to
you
know
to
achieve
the
circle's
goals.
That
way
we
don't
have.
G
We
have
only
we
have
much
fewer
proposals
coming
up
to
the
dow,
and
so
it's
less
fatigue
and
everything
for
voters
and
then
circles
have
a
bit
more
autonomy
to
execute
on
their
goals
and
the
way
the
reason
is
so
decentralized
is
that
the
dow
should
be
able
to
like
replace
a
point
and
replace
these
circle.
Leaders
basically-
and
anyone
should
be
able
to
you
know,
apply
to
be
a
circle
leader
if
they
feel
like
the
circle,
isn't
allocating
their
funding.
Well,.
G
Yes,
so
other
tools,
like
colony
kind
of,
has
a
better
setup
for
this
exact
thing.
But
it's
the
idea
is
that
you
can
you
earn
reputation
for
your
circle
so
whenever
you
earn
a
payment
in
a
circle,
you're
like
automatically
getting
a
reputation
and
then
now
you
have
this
like
extra
layer
of
governance
within
the
circles
where
they
can,
where
proposals
don't
have
to
go
all
the
way
up
to
the
dao.
G
C
Yeah
one
of
the
things
that's
in
my
mind,
right
now
is
then
I
feel
like
we're
gonna
connect
about
how
long
does
something
need
to
stay
in
the
advice
process?
There's
probably
a
requirement
that
we
need
to
have
that.
Any
of
these
proposals
that
are
being
discussed
in
past
within
circles
also
need
to
be
communicated
like
within
the
community
call,
for
example,
so
that
other
people
have
the
ability,
awareness
that
these
things
are
happening
and
decisions
are
being
made.
F
C
F
To
clarify
understanding
is
that,
okay,
sorry
as
the
the
idea
between
like
having
these
subcategories
of
the
different
circles
under
the
proposals
category
on
the
forum,
so
is
that
to
say:
oh,
this
is
a
proposal
pertaining
to
the
community
circle
and
then,
and
then
you
just
need
a
majority
of
the
community
members
to
you
just
need
to
not
have
any
objections
from
the
people
within
that
circle
or
you're
still
fielding
it
for
the
like
feedback
from
the
entire
group,
but
you're
really
just
tagging
it.
As
this
is
a
proposal.
G
Yeah,
so
I
definitely
like
the
idea
of
just
having
some
cat
sub
categories
in
the
forum
for
each
of
these
circles,
and
then
one
idea
that
I
really
like
too
is
that
circles
should
be
able
to
just
request
funding,
and
that
could
be
a
budget.
You
know
so,
let's
say
a
circle
has
like
five
five
full-time
contributors.
Instead
of
each
of
those
five
full-time
contributors
having
to
make
a
proposal
to
the
dow
to
get
funding
the
circle
leader
can
make
a
proposal
to
the
dow
to
get
funding
for
all
five
of
them.
G
You
know
plus
some
other
expenses.
Basically,
then,
that
circle
leader
should
just
be
able
to
pay
out
contributors
within
their
circle
without
going
back
to
the
dow
unless
they
need
more
funding.
I
really
like
that
structure
because
then
it
just
has
this
layer,
and
we
can
you
know
we
can
have
some
level
of
trust
with
these
circle
leaders
if
they
abuse
the
trust
when
there's
a
process
for
them
to
get
replaced,
but
we
can,
we
can
have
much
fewer
proposals
going
to
the
top
level
dial,
which
I
think
will
be
good.
G
Then
there's
this
question
like
what
about
a
proposal
that
doesn't
necessarily
need
funding
and,
like
those
those
are
that's
an
interesting
question
like
what
is
the
threshold
for
when
a
circle
needs
to
make
a
proposal
up
to
the
data
and
that
I
think
we
could
use
some
good
clarity
around
and
yeah.
I'm
not
sure
we
have
a
clear
answer
for
that.
Quite
yet,
but
I
do
like
the
idea
of
that
yeah.
G
We
can
kind
of
for
now
give
circles
some
trust,
but
just
make
sure
that
if
they
are
making
these
decisions,
obviously,
if
it's
a
decision
that
impacts
other
circles,
that
should
go
up
to
the
dao.
But
if
it's
something
that
just
impacts
their
circle,
they
should
be
able
to.
You
know,
execute
and
autonomously,
but
make
sure
they're
at
least
communicating
those
decisions
that
they're
making
to
at
the
community
cost.
G
So
you
have
circles,
we
could
use
the
coal
functionality
in
discourse
and
we
could
just
set
those
rules
and
say
as
long
as
proposal's
been
up
for
at
least
five
days,
and
it
has
you
know,
majority
of
votes
over
down
votes.
Then
it
passes
or
we
could
say
what
is
that
significant
majority
where
it's
like
two
thirds
or
more,
we
could
choose
whatever
we
want.
There
is
a
threshold,
that's
one
option
for
the
circle
proposals.
C
The
tags
we
talked
about
like
that
that
then
tells
you
where
they're
at
willie
did
you
come
in
when
mitch
and
when
we
were
talking
about
having
these,
so
you
said,
there's
categories
we've
got
the
categories
proposal
subcategories
the
subcategories
are
the
circle
which
circle
is
proposing
it
and
then
the
status
could
be.
The
tag
to
say
is
this
currently
in
advice
process?
Is
it
up
for
a
vote?
Was
it
passed
or
rejected.
G
D
I
had
a
couple
of
thoughts
there
just
from
talking
about
it.
I
think
there
definitely
should
be
subcategories
in
the
forum.
I'm
just
going
to
my
point
earlier
that
anything
going
to
the
doubt.
I'm
hearing.
D
Okay,
thank
you,
I'm
glad,
I'm
being
heard
yeah
so
like
having
sub-categories
in
the
forum
but
having
all
proposals
easily
accessible
and
just
like,
not
over
engineering.
This
thing
right
now
for
the
15
of
us
that
are
going
to
be
actively
using
it.
So
I
think
like
having
some
sub
categories
for
each
circle
and
then
having
some
clear
tags
that
would
serve
the
purpose
right
now,
instead
of
creating
subcategories
and
subcategories,
like
maybe
eventually
you'll
realize
that
governance
needs
its
own
proposal
section
and
maybe
dev
needs
it.
But
it's
like
right
now.
D
I
don't
think
we
should
make
too
many
layers
for
the
people
that
we
have,
but
it's
good
to
have
the
ideas.
The
second
thought
was
just
going
around
payments.
I,
like
I'm,
seeing
this
happening
and
like
who,
when
a
circle
leader,
proposes
funds
and
gets
funding
who's
holding
the
funding
the
circle
leader
or
they
have
that
like
in
their
metamask
and
then
it's
up
to
them
to
distribute
funds.
I
was
proposing.
G
That
we
use
giveth
trace
for
that.
So
basically,
each
circle
would
have
a
campaign
and
a
camp
campaign
campaign
manager,
and
then
we
could
eat
our
own
dog
food
and
we
could
give
it
traces
pretty
perfect
for
holding
those
phones
and
paying
off.
Apparently,
and
people
could
like
make
a
milestone
and
request
funding
from
that
circle.
C
C
I
lean
in
that
direction
for
simplicity
and
accountability
and
simplicity,
because
of
well,
it
just
seems
easier
for
one
person
who's
doing
all
of
that
and
to
have
that
the
payments
of
people
coming
out
of
one
place
than
having
that
responsibility
itself
be
decentralized
to
the
campaign
managers.
This
is
my
feeling,
based
on
having
done
this
for
both
a
circle
and
a
campaign
and
trying
to
do
it
for
everybody,
and
we
have
someone
to
do
it
now.
C
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
proposal
that
I
pro
that
I
need
to
put
in,
but
I've
just
heard
this
come
up
quite
a
bit
as
we've
had
the
circle
discussion.
D
Yeah,
I
definitely
agree
with
danny
with
this
one.
It's
like
the
circle
leaders
might
not
necessarily
be
accountants
and
in
this
sense
sometimes
centralized
payments
are
better
they're,
just
organized
there's,
less
confusion
about
who's,
paying
who
and
I
think,
there's
just
something
psychological
about
being
dependent
on
someone
else
to
get
paid.
D
G
G
I
think
that,
just
like
the
same
there's,
maybe
there's
issues
with
having
circles
and
leaders
do
the
payments
there's
also
issues
with
having
a
single
person
do
all
the
payments
as
these
circles
grow
and
as
we
scale,
because
now
a
single
person
needs
to
understand
all
the
different
people
that
are
part
of
all
these
different
circles.
And
now
there's
like
there's
some
bureaucracy.
G
There's
now
the
circle
manager
who
wants
to
bring
on
a
new
team
member
and
get
them
paid
now
has
to
go
to
this
other
person
to
get
that
flowing
to
set
that
up,
and
we
could
just
cut
out
that
middle.
We
could
just
give
it's
just
a
couple
clicks
and
give
it
trace
to
you.
Don't
have
to
be
a
pro
account
to
make
a
payment.
G
So
I
think,
and
if
there's
issues
then
we
figure
that
out
and
someone
says:
hey,
I
didn't
get
paid
and
we
make
sure
they
get
paid
right
and
we
figure
those
issues
out
and
we
make
sure
that
we
have
circle
leaders
who
who
can
complete
payments
every
month,
and
I
hear
that
it
does
puts
a
little
bit
of
hierarchy
in
there
and
that's
the
one
thing
that
I
don't
absolutely
love
about
it.
G
But
I
think
in
some
ways
that's
okay,
I
think
decentralization
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
it's
anarchy
and
it's
just
like
a
bunch
of
individuals
all
coming
to
one
single
doubt.
One
central
point
of
data
makes
all
the
decisions
and
pays
it
out.
You
can
have
some
layers
there
and
still
decentralize,
because
the
give
token
holders
still
have
control
ultimate
control
over
who
these
circle
leaders
are
and
if
a
new
circle
gets
created
and
if
the
news
forever,
if
a
circle
gets
spun
down
and
all
that.
G
G
And
it'll
still
be,
I
mean
the
circle's
leader's
responsibility
will
still
be
to
carry
out
the
intentions
and
of
the
circle.
You
know
the
circle
leaders
should
never
be
acting
out
of
line
with
what
their
circle
feels
and
if
they
do,
then
that's
warrant
for
them
to
get
replaced
for
their
circle.
To
you
know,
vote
to
replace.
G
C
Yeah,
that's
the
beauty
of
of
sociocracy.
Is
we?
We
know
that
we
need
to
scale,
but
we
don't
actually
have
to
make
the
decision
right
now
for
when
we've
scaled,
we
get
to
make
a
decision
that
works
for
those
of
us
right
now
and
agree
to
come
back
and
revisit
it
at
either
a
time
threshold
or
a
when
we
hire
more
people
threshold
or
something
like
that.
C
But
the
other
question
that
we
had
that
we
wanted
to
take
a
look
at
today
is
how
long
should
a
proposal
spend
in
the
advice
process
on
the
forum
before
going
paragon
for
a
vote
and
I'm
curious?
If
there's
anybody
on
the
call
who
thinks
that
that
should
be
the
same
all
the
time,
we
just
have
a
minimum
that
any
proposal
that
goes
up
on
the
forum
needs
to
be
on
the
forum
and
communicated
through
the
discord
channel
for
three
days.
C
C
A
proposal
goes
up
into
the
forum
and
we
say:
hey
guys,
I'm
making
a
proposal
in
the
forum.
Please
take
a
look
at
it
and
add
your
comments.
D
Like
the
less
time
you
leave
for
advice,
process,
the
shitty,
your
proposal
might
be
like,
that's
it,
so
I
think
it
should
be
up
to
the
person
to
decide
when
they've
had
enough
advice
that
they
can
choose
to
propose
it.
They
can
modify
it,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
totally
discretionary
thing.
You
know,
because
at
the.
G
That,
I
think
that's
the
scope,
there's
I'm
I'm
open
to
that.
That's
really
interesting!
I
haven't
seen
a
dad
just
do
that,
but
I
think
you
know
you
make
some
good
points
that
it's
you
know.
If
they
you
don't
get.
If
you
don't
do
it
for
a
long
time,
then
you'll
have
a
shitty
proposal
and
get
down
voted.
G
I
think
maybe
some
of
the
reason
that
there
is
a
minimum
time
could
be
that
just
the
risk
of
malicious
proposals,
and
it
gives-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
serious
risk,
but
it
gives
basically
like
whoever
is
an
admin
over
the
yeah
which
we
probably
want.
G
I
know
you
have
with
snapchat,
but
we
might
not
have
with
guardians
anyways,
but
it
gives
admins
the
ability
to
like
say
this
proposal
is
invalid
because
it
didn't
follow
the
format,
the
guidelines,
and
so,
let's
say
someone,
and
I
guess
we
have
at
least
three
days
so
it's
more
of
an
issue
if
someone
would
like
to
make
a
malicious
proposal
to
get
paid
out
in
24
hours,
and
it
gives
you
the
ability
to
just
take
that
away
but
yeah,
I
think
with
conviction
voting
and
the
way
we
have
stuff
set
up.
G
I
don't
know
if
we're
at
risk
of
that
necessarily
at
much
risk
of
that
as
a
dow,
where
someone
could
create
like
a
proposal
that
would
get
passed
in
24
hours
and
request
a
large
amount
of
funding
so
yeah.
I.
D
G
Yeah,
I
think
I
agree
that
arbitrary
advice
process
is
fine,
and
maybe
it's
just
something
that
people
say
when
they
create
their
proposal
that
I'm
gonna.
I
intend
to
leave
this
here
for
this
many
days.
C
Yeah,
I
think
the
bigger
question
is:
do
we
to
set
a
minimum
like
a
proposal
process
could
potentially
go
on?
I
mean
it
could
be
something
great.
We
just
knocked
out
the
whole
thing
for
the
three
circles,
for
example
in
a
week
ish,
and
that
was
great
and
it
was
focused
and
we
talked
about
it
in
multiple
meetings
and
we
shared
it
in
discord
and
we
moved
a
good
proposal
that
took
a
few
revisions
all
the
way
through
in
about
a
week.
At
the
same
time,
there's
some
like.
What's
that
other
one?
C
That's
been
up
there
for
about
oh
values,
the
values
has
already
been
up
there
for
over
two
weeks,
for
example,
and
we're
still
moving
through
that.
So
I
think
the
question
is:
is
there
a
minimum
that
something
needs
to
go
through
the
advice
process
and
I'll
give
you
an
example?
Why
I
personally
think
a
week
is
important
when
we
have
a
decentralized
team
and
there's
some
people
who
might
only
come
to
the
sunday
calls.
C
I
think
it's
really
important
that
a
proposal
be
fully
discussed
in
the
community
call
and
those
minutes
distributed
for
a
day
or
two
before
enacting
something,
and
also
like
from
from
my
perspective,
I
have
a
lot
of
projects
a
lot.
I'm
often
asked
to
vote
on
something
that
I
I
need
to
know.
C
I
have
a
week
to
get
to
it
and
review
it
and
thoughtfully
provide
feedback
before
I
can
vote
on
it
so
like
protecting
people's
ability
to
give
something,
the
thought
that
they
need
and
creating
that
week
and
then
also
you
know,
we
can
have
an
exception
process,
sometimes
there's
something
that
comes
up
that
we're
like
yeah.
This
is
important.
We
need
to
vote
on
this
right
away.
G
I
like
a
week
with
the
exception,
as
long
as
we
have
an
exception
process
for
stuff
that
needs
to
get
pushed
through
quickly,
maybe
five
days.
If
we,
if
anyone
feels
a
week,
is
too
long
with
five
days
plus
the
three
day
minimum.
That
at
least
would
give
us
enough
time
to
have
a
governance
call
before
something
gets
discussed
and
just
voted
on
and
finalized.
F
Yeah,
I
agree.
I
was
kind
of
teetering
between
five
and
seven
days
when
you
first
asked
the
question
and
I
was
kind
of
leaning
towards
seven
just
because
we're
all
in
different
time
zones
around
the
world
and
I'm
realizing.
You
know,
like
the
middle
east
team,
has
different
days
that
they
consider
their
weekend
versus
us
here
in
costa
rica.
So
so
seven
days
feels
like
it's
giving
everyone
a
fair
opportunity
to
review.
C
F
Yeah,
I
think
that's
fair.
I
guess
just
if
someone
wasn't
able
to
get
to
it
until
like
the
sixth
day
and
it's
already
gone
to
vote,
then
they
can't
really
like
adapt
it.
They
can
only
reject
or
approve.
But
I
guess
you
could
vote
to
reject
something
and
make
a
new
proposal
and
just
like
hope
that
it
got
rejected.
C
Yeah
and
that's
something
that
you
know
going
back
to
sociocracy
again,
we
should
not
be
afraid
to
reject
things
if
it
doesn't
feel
good
and
you
didn't
have
the
time
to
review
it,
that
that
that's
a
cultural
thing
that
we
should
be
comfortable
with
saying.
No,
I'm
not
ready
for
that
and
go
back
and
make
the
change
and
submit
the
proposal
again.
H
Doing
good,
I'm
just
listening,
you
guys,
but
pretty
much
distracted.
So
I
don't
have
anything
smart
to
say
at
this
point.
C
Okay,
so
you
think
this
should
be
a
proposal.
I
think
this
that
to
feel
it
like.
I
have
enough
information
and
feedback
from
you
guys
to
write
up
an
advice,
process
proposal
and
put
that
up
on
the
forum
and
move
that
through
this
week.
C
I
do
think
that
this
payments
item
should
also
go
into
the
forum
for
discussion.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
wants
to
own
that
one.
G
I'm
happy
to
own
making
that
forum
post,
but
I
think
kind
of,
like
we
discussed
earlier,
we're
not
in
a
huge
rush
for
it
right
now,
so
maybe
wait
to
make
it
until
we
we
feel
there's
more
to
me.
We
can
revisit
it.
Maybe
the
next
next
week's
governance
call,
but
I
think
the
vibe
I
got
was
that
there's
not
a
strong
need
for
it
right
now.
So,
let's,
let's
not
go
through
until
we
really
hit
it.
G
C
Week,
I
don't
think
we
need
to
talk
about
the
circle's
proposal
and
I
didn't
see
any
new
proposals
posted
in
there.
The
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
quarterly
r
give
distribution,
so
I'm
going
to
hack
with
hannah
this
week
and
get
the
praise
and
source
cred
spreadsheet
updated,
and
this
is
the
end
of
the
second
quarter
this
year,
so
we're
giving
out
4
44.
C
C
All
right,
so,
I
think
that's
another
proposal
that
needs
to
go
up
and
get
voted
on
is:
do
we
give
out
the
333
our
give
tokens
or
q2
anybody
have
any
reason
or
thought
why
we
should
reconsider
going
up
and
up
like
this
each
time
I
I
think
I
think
we're
still
good.
We
might
want
to
revisit
that
at
the
end
of
this
year
or
something
right
now.
D
E
C
C
And
then
I
want
to
bring
up
that.
I
had
a
few
people
point
out.
Some
interesting
inconsistencies
in
the
pan
payments
last
month.
So,
as
you
know,
we
started
that
new
spreadsheet
last
month
to
calculate
those
months
and
also
switch
to
a
four
week,
so
hannah
and
kenny
are
also
going
to
as
we
update
it
for
this
new
month
and
the
our
give
tokens.
We're
also
going
to
really
take
a
look
at
the
calculations
for
pan.
C
I
I
have
an
idea
that
I
think
might
have
to
might
have
those
numbers
shift,
so
we
would
have
to
make
some
adjustments
with
the
coming
month,
but
if
anybody
wants
to
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
that
spreadsheet
again,
I
know
I
got
some
feedback
from
forrest
and.
C
I
forget
what
the
other
feedback
was
now.
Oh,
I
just
realized
something
myself
that
I
wasn't
sure
if
the
number
that
we're
using
for
each
successive
month
was
taking
out
the
previous
pan,
I
had
a
concern
that
maybe
we
weren't
deducting
what
we
paid
from
the
previous
month
to
reduce
the
pot
for
those
percentages
to
be
accurate,
and
I
want
to
double
check
that
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about
willie.
C
Yes,
did
you
look
for
that?
I
don't
know
if
anybody
looks
for
it,
it
was
one
of
those
things
that
when
I
woke
up
in
the
morning
after
the
payouts
it
just
occurred
to
me
did
we
actually
with
did
we
actually
decrease
the
the
pot
amount
by
what
was
distributed
the
previous
month
in
each
successive
months?
Tab
I'd
like
to
think
we
did,
but
I
don't
know
for
sure
we
did.
C
Yeah
and
then
do
we
know
much
about
the
bitcoin
grant.
I
saw
that
we
were
seventh
on
common
stacks.
We
fell
out
of
the
top
five
for
the
first
time.
A
G
So
on
that
note,
let's
see
how
we
did
with
this
past
round,
so
we,
oh,
I
can't
see
anymore
because
the
round's
over,
I
think
we
got
about
7k,
give
or
take
of
donations
and
matching
funds,
and
then
that's
before
all
the
pan
distributions.
G
We
need
to
get
those
funds
so
griff
and
I
need
to
we
haven't
needed
them,
because
we
have
enough
funds
in
our
given
trace
reserves
that
we
haven't
really
needed
to
pull
from
it.
So
we
have
a
few
bitcoin
grants
rounds
worth
of
donations
that
are,
with
the
old,
dow,
the
doubt
stack
dial.
G
Some
of
them
are
on
mainnet,
some
zk
sync
and
we
need
to
basically
get
together
and
it
just
takes
griff
and
I
to
we
need
two
people
who
have
rent
in
the
old
dow
stack
dial
to
build
some
custom
transactions
to
like
claim
the
funds
from
zk
sync
and
then
send
them,
and
then
yeah
make
like
proposals
and
stuff
to
withdraw
them
and
get
them
into
give
us
trace.
So
we
should
probably
do
that
soon
and
maybe,
while
we're
at
it
two,
we
can
always
secrets
here
too
we
can.
G
We
can.
Actually.
I
think
get
the
bitcoin
grant
round
tokens
out
of
that,
and
then
we
can
update
our
address
going
forward
and
we'll
still
get
the
matching
bonus.
You
know
how
like
every
bitcoin
grant
around,
they
send
you
a
nft
that
represents
that
you're
part
of
around,
and
then
you
get
bigger
matches
in
the
future
yeah.
So
maybe
we
can
just
do
it
once
and
for
all
and
get
graduate
from
that
old
stacked
out
get
our
funds
out.
C
Right,
okay,
we
got
about
15
minutes
left.
I
also
heard
somebody
say
it
would
be
worth
having
the
the
dev
hiring
discussion
and
I
have
to
say
I
copied
this
over
from
the
community
notes
and
I'm
super
curious
where
this
giveth
guardians
conversation
came
from
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
it.
Does
anybody
want
to
share
around
deaf
hiring.
I
So
we
and
I
forgot
to
add
that
to
when
willy,
when
we
were
looking
over
the
allocations,
we
need
to
have
like
a
giveth
guardians
section
because,
like
for
smart
contract
audits
and
stuff,
basically
we
don't
have
the
we
don't,
have
the
dev
power
to
be
like
super
confident
with
our
smart
contract
development,
because
no
one
has
been
hacked
before
you
know.
I
So
we
it's
good.
That's.
These
are
good
things
to
have
on
your
resume,
like
we
should
probably
like
lean
on
external
support
for
validating
our
smart
contracts
beyond
beyond
just
audits.
You
know
also
just
like
good
practices
and
stuff
like
that
pre-audits
and
I
have
lots
of
friends
that
would
be
down
to
do
that
on,
like
a
part-time.
You
know
like
once
in
a
while
thing
that
would
probably
just
be
happy
with
tokens.
I
Whatever
we
give
them
and
then
that's
kind
of
the
idea
is
that
we
just
recruit,
maybe
a
a
crew
to
be
on
a
multi-sig
and
or
something
like
that,
and
we
just
have
like
you
know:
hey
you're,
giveth,
guardian
you're,
a
smart
contract
guru,
a
samsung
type
character.
I
You
know
these
people
would
be
like
jordy
alexi
audreya.
What's
his
name,
boki
puba
and
I
don't
know
probably
a
couple
other
people
that
are
just
they've
been
in
the
giveth
scene
for
a
long
time.
D
G
I
mean,
I
think,
we'll
want
docs
and
stuff
like
that,
but
I
think
we
do
have
some
other
line
items
for
like
other
projects.
The
next
features
we
want
to
do
and
just
for
paying
contributors-
and
I
think
those
types
of
audits
relative
to
these
smart
contract
audits-
will
be
able
to
just
use
the
existing
budgets
we
have.
But
these
smart
contract
audits
are
so
expensive
that
it
makes
sense
to
set
aside
some
yeah
yeah.
C
Cool
is
there
anything
else
around
the
hiring
discussion
and
growing
our
team
at
any
how's?
Those
interviews
going
griff.
C
C
So
this
is
one
that's
been
up
for
about
two
weeks.
Lauren.
Is
there
anything
you
wanted
to
drop
in
or
share
where
the
status
of
this
proposal
and
any
actions
that
need
to
to
happen.
A
I
didn't
like
integrate
yet,
but
it
seemed
like
most
people
were
just
like.
This
is
good,
but
I
saw
willie
was
commenting
about
like
altruism
and
like
I
didn't
fully
read
it
and
look
into
it
yet,
but
that's
that's
where
it's
at
seemed
like
most
people
liked
it,
but
I
still
have
to
incorporate
willie's
comments
or
maybe
reply.
C
C
B
A
A
A
A
C
I
Yeah,
it's
it's
paris.
It's
mission
impossible
across
borders.
It's
like
you,
know,
tc's
launching,
hopefully
on
wednesday
before
I
fly
out
and
then
yeah
praise
audits.
I'm
not
even
am
I
in
a
call
right
now.
That's
cool,
like
I'm,
not
sure,
what's
happening.
C
Yeah,
you
are
in
a
call
and
it
looks
like
we
have
completed
our
agenda
early
so
again,
unless
anybody
wants
to
have
a
little
five-minute
dance
party.
I
think
we
can
take
these
minutes
to
go
prepare
for
our
next
calls.