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From YouTube: Grafana UX Community Call 2020-12-07
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A
Yeah,
okay,
good
all
right,
so
thank
you
for
joining
the
last
ux
community
call
of
the
year.
This
sounds
so
critical
in
a
way.
We
have
quite
an
important
topic
for
today,
but
before
jumping
into
that,
I
wanted
to
give
a
bit
of
an
overview,
so
the
call
is
being
recorded
and
the
recording
will
be
available
after
the
call.
We
recently
also
started
posting
on
youtube,
so
people
can
watch
later.
A
Please
feel
free
to
add
the
meeting,
any
type
of
questions
you
have
to
the
agenda,
so
we
can
read
from
there
or
if
you
have
other
topics,
you'd
like
to
discuss
that
are
related
to
design
or
to
you,
the
user
experience
for
grafana
feel
free
to
to
do
so.
We
have
quite
a
lot
of
time
for
today
and
we
do
that,
so
we
meet
as
usual
on
the
first
monday
of
every
month
and
the
next
one.
A
This
time
will
be
on
the
first
of
february,
because
in
january
it's
super
close
after
all,
the
holidays
and
people
might
still
be
out
for
that.
Each
meeting
has
a
different
theme
or
feature
and,
as
always,
the
community
is
super.
Welcome
to
add
their
own
teams,
so
we
really
want
you
to
also
drive
these
discussions
because
it's
we
are
doing
this
call
for
you
mostly.
The
url
is
well
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A
If
you
want
to
talk
with
us
and
you
haven't,
you
aren't
on
our
public
slack,
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join
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We
have
a
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where
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watch
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closely
called
grafana
film.
So
if
you
see
something
that
it's
failing
or
not
working
properly
or
you
think
it
should
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different,
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drop
us
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in
there
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ux
along
graphana.com.
A
When
we
talk
about
it,
we
talk
about
computer
accessibility
in
our
case
and
refers
to
the
accessibility
of
a
computer
system
to
be
able
to
use
it
by
all
people
regardless
if
they
have
a
disability
type
by
any
type,
by
severity
or
being
in
any
type
of
visual
impairment.
For
example,
that
means
so
people
have
a
different
visual
impairments.
They
might
have
troubles
not
seeing
some
colors
from
the
others
they
might
just
wearing
eyeglasses
or
their
site
is
not
how
it
used
to
be.
A
They
might
have
issues
not
being
able
to
use
a
mouse,
for
example,
because
of
motorcity
things,
or
they
just
want
to
use
a
keyboard
because
they
hate
them
all.
I
don't
know,
and
they
are
used
of
using
keyboards
and
to
put
things
in
perspective,
one
billion
people
or
actually
50
percentage
of
the
world's
population
experiences
some
form
of
disability.
A
So
it's
super
important
for
us
to
have
this
address,
even
if
things
are
not
very
pink
right
now,
but
we
want
to
change
this
in
the
near
future
as
much
as
possible
and
also
another
example.
At
least
10
percentage
of
the
other
population
has
some
sort
of
vision,
impairment
and
we
all
are
also
getting
older,
so
chances
are
increasing.
We
will
get
there
at
some
point
if
you
want
to
learn
more
just
in
general,
for
your
own
knowledge,
you
can
access
this
project
called
accessibilityproduct.com.
A
There
have
some
great
resources
and
the
checklist
you
can
also
try
it
on
your
own
project
that
you're
working
on-
and
I
was
saying
we're
gonna
talk
a
bit
about
the
current
state
of
things
at
grafana,
so
how
we
approach
this,
I
I
run
with
one
of
my
colleagues,
an
accessibility
audit
on
a
few
important
pages.
A
There
are
you
do
not
have
to
do
all
things
manually.
There
are
browser
extensions
available.
There
are
some
other
open
source
tools
out
there
that
can
help.
You
give
you
an
overview,
so
I've
run
one
of
these
tools
against
a
grafana
dashboard
against
explore
and
to
other
key
pages,
and
as
it
appears
well,
things
are
not
looking
very
bright
at
the
moment.
A
So
what
this
tells
us
both
for
the
dark
and
the
lighting
that
we
have
some
errors
when
it
comes
to
the
page
structure
itself,
how
we
build
it
behind
it?
It
tells
us
that
for
coral
blindness
test
that
graphs
in
general
data
visualization
in
general
is
hard
to
see
by
people
with
some
sort
of
visual
impairment
that
the
color
contrast
is
quite
low.
So
we
have
a
number
of
issues
in
here
and
the
last
one
that
the
trying
to
navigate
rafana
using
only
keyboard
is
just
impossible
and
pretty
similar
for
the
light
team.
A
So
there
are
a
number
of
things
we
should
be
addressing
that's
for
sure
right,
but
then
we
have
ones
that
are
more
important.
A
I
would
say
than
others
right,
what's
more
important
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
everybody
can
see
the
data
in
front
of
them
or
that
everybody
can
see
what's
in
that
ui
in
the
end,
and
just
to
give
you
an
example
of
how
that
colorblindness
test
looks
like
so
on
the
bottom
right
of
the
screen,
there's
on
how
a
normal
people
sees
that
and
I'm
sorry
if
somebody
here
I
in
the
call
today
is
actually
friend
red
black-
has
some
sort
of
red
blindness,
and
they
cannot
see
this
versus
the
top
left
corner
where
this
that's
how
they
they
would
see
it
right.
A
So
this
helps
us
with
us
designers
to
kind
of
see
what
other
people
will
see
it.
It's
still
far
from
reality.
I
know
that
the
human
eye
is
a
bit
different
than
a
machine
which
tell
us,
but
it's
a
starting
point,
that
kind
of
shows
that
we
have
some
issues
to
be
to
be
fixed,
and
I
know,
and
a
lot
of
our
users
already
complained
with
the
complaint
on
twitter.
We
have
some
issues
already
open
in
github.
They
complain
during
user
research.
A
I
will
stop
for
now
before
jumping
to
how
to
fix
this,
because
I
would
really
like
to
hear
from
your
experience.
If
you
have
some,
have
you
gotten
to
a
place
where
you
try
to
use
keyboard
navigation
or
are
there
areas
in
grafana
that
you
do
not
see
properly
or
that
they
are
too
much
for
you
or
it
can
be
even
about
the
content
itself?
Are
there
places
in
grafana
that
it's
hard
to
understand
the
writing
that
we
have
in.
A
A
B
Mostly
yeah,
so
there
were
a
number
of
issues,
so
some
people
mentioned
that
viewers
of
dashboards
are
often
older
people
whose
vision
it's
maybe
not
so
great.
B
And
also
some
people
also
mentioned
that
they
struggle,
which
is
not
a
surprise,
but
we
actually
talked
to
people
who
mentioned
that
they
can't
read
red
on
black,
which
you
know
is
the
biggest
no.
No,
but
when
it
comes
to
accessibility
but
yeah,
but
they
were
very
specific
about
this.
Some
other
people
mentioned
and
that's
not
a
surprise
really
that
they
navigate
via
keyboard,
and
that
is
cumbersome.
B
So
some
parts
of
grafana
you
can
navigate
with
keyboard,
whereas
some
other
parts
it's
tricky
at
the
best.
So
I
think
those
were
top
three
issues
which
is
having
p
people
who
have
problem
with
vision
because
they're
older
we
have
red
on
black,
which
we
have
a
lot
in
grafana
to
be
honest
and
then
navigating
or
a
keyboard
was
one
of
the
big
things.
B
Also
I
don't
know
if
there
are
any.
Does
anyone
hear
in
this
meeting?
Have
any
other
examples
of
her
or
heard
about
other
examples
of
issues
with
with
fun
when
it
comes
to
accessibility,.
C
I
could
maybe
add
just
one
issue
that
I've
noticed,
and
that
was
very
interesting
to
me
because
I
I
learned
that
browsers
and
also
operating
system
have
different
shortcuts
keyboard
shortcuts.
So
we
should
be
also
aware
of
that,
because
they
we
had
in
graph
and
a
shortcut
that
was
doing,
I'm
not
sure
what
browser
was
it,
but
in
the
browser
it
was
doing
something
different
and
therefore
there
weren't
able
to
to
access
what
they
wanted
with
the
with
the
keyboard
shortcut.
A
Yeah
and
with
browsers,
even
using
a
regular
tab,
the
highlight
could
be
different
on
the
same
html
element,
so
a
link
would
appear
differently
in
safari
versus
chrome
right.
A
If
you
just
use
the
default
one
and
data
visualization
definitely
has
the
biggest
challenges
right,
because
while
the
ui
can
be
easily
fixed
or
we
have
so
many
panel
types
and
not
all
are
made
by
us
right,
we
have
to
take
into
consideration
how
also
the
community
doing
a
lot
of
these
plugins
and
if
we
think
of
a
solution,
we
should
be
thinking
how
we
can
improve
kind
of
the
entire
experience,
and
there
are
solution
proposed
out
there.
It.
A
We
would
like,
I
guess,
to
make
sure
we
we
managed
to
validate
these
sweet
people
because
again
it's
one
thing
to
just
have
them
as
examples,
and
I
have
a
few
examples
to
show
but
validating
them
with
real
people.
It's
a
bit
different,
all
right.
Anybody
else
would
like
to
share
something
from
their
experience.
A
Grafana
I
mean
even
for
regular
people,
depending
on
how
you
build
your
dashboards
and
the
final
types.
It
can
still
be
quite
a
lot
to
take
in.
If
you
have
a
lot
like,
then
I
was
saying
red
on
black
right
or
the
entire
red
screen.
That
would
be
just
too
much
for
the
eye,
depending
how
much
you
have
to
look
at
that.
A
All
right,
if
nobody
wants
to
share
anything,
I
I
would
move
for
forward
to
kind
of
what
I
was
thinking
on
improving
this
experience,
and
we
already
discussed
it
briefly
today
with
the
rest
of
the
team,
so
main
issue
that
we
identified
was
about
navigation,
the
page
structure
which
leads
to
that
navigation,
and
while
we
improve
navigation
using
the
keyboard
or
the
page
structure,
that
could
also
be
beneficial
for
other
type
of
impairments,
because
using
a
screen.
A
Reader,
for
example,
relies
on
the
same
basic
rules
for
navigation,
color,
contrast
and
dashboard
accessibility
right.
So
improving
this
experience,
we
were
thinking
of
a
few
things
we
could
be
doing
right.
Some
of
them
could
be
quick
wins.
Some
of
them
will
take
a
bit
more
time,
but
all
of
them
are
quite
achievable.
A
I
would
say
first
would
be
to
improve
the
accessibility
for
the
live
team
if
we
think
of
right
both
dark
and
light
input,
or
we
are
trying
as
much
as
possible
to
have
some
basic
contrast
in
them,
but
avoiding
that
red
on
black
or
it's
just
easier
to
do
so
in
a
light
team.
A
So
all
the
ui
elements
should
have
what
we
call
a
minimum
contrast
ratio
of
4.5
and
then
the
next
step
would
be.
I
was
thinking
to
create
a
high
contrast,
theme
right
and
you
would
switch
this
in
your
preference
menu
like
just
like
you
do
today.
So
if
you
have
any
sort
of
impairment,
you
can
just
pick
an
even
higher
contrasting
theme
and
I
have
as
an
example
just
afterwards
another
thing
that
we
could
be
doing
and
not
we
are
not
doing
this
today-
that
all
charts
should
support
color
overrides.
A
I
was
testing
different
options
and
I
would
say
so
far
one
out
of
three
support
scholar
or
balance
overrides,
so
this
could
be
standardized
across
all
of
them.
So
just
think,
instead
of
using
red
and
green
as
two
of
the
colors
you
could,
we
could
be
using
red
and
blue,
and
that
would
address
a
certain
condition
and
the
first
one
would
be
to
create
an
easy
to
use
color
palette
for
different
type
of
color
blindness.
A
So
what
we
said
on
the
the
fourth
point,
but
just
taking
it
a
step
further
further
and
recreating
these
palettes
to
for
the
ease
of
use
and
this
change,
you
could
also
be
doing
in
your
preference
page,
so
it
will
be
saved
across
graffana
and
improving
that
experience.
A
How
this
type
of
an
improved
contrast
theme
would
look
like.
So
while
it
doesn't
look
that
much
different
from
what
we
have
today,
there
are
a
few
things
that
I
change
in
here.
So
I
make
sure
that
all
the
colors
have
a
bigger
contrast,
ratio
of
7.5
so
much
as
much
as
possible.
The
the
text
change
from
gray
to
black.
I
increase
the
font
size
a
bit
and
I
made
sure
that
we
are
using
a
thicker
font
than
we
used
before
right.
So
it
doesn't
necessarily
change
too
much.
A
That
interface
is
just
an
increase
of
contrast
and
this
how
it
looks
on
the
next
pages.
So
if
you
go
to
an
edit
panel,
you
would
see
that
here
all
these
lines,
sorry
have
a
bigger
contrast.
All
these
labels
have
been
increased
from
12
pixels
to
14
pixels,
including
buttons.
They
also
have
new
borders
that
are
more
visible
and
how
it
would
look
in
your
preference.
A
This
is
just
another
page
to
show
buttons
with
bigger
contrast
and
forms
as
well
on
the
chart
side
so
where
things
are
getting
a
bit
more
complicated
what
we
could
be
doing-
and
we
are
not
doing
today
so
right
now,
if
you
click
on
any
chart
legend,
it
will
open
a
little
model
where
you
can
change
the
color,
but
what
we
are
not
doing.
We
are
not
highlighting
that
data
point.
So
hoovering
should
highlight
data.
A
We
should
not
rely
only
on
color
for
contrast,
but
we
could
use
a
pattern
or
a
different
line
time
where
possible.
So
we
will
rely
also
on
form
not
only
on
color
and
we
could
apply
the
change
in
the
panel
colors
by
only
one
click
and
how
this
could
look.
So
in
the
first
example,
the
top
left
one
I
just
started
with
thicker
lines
in
different
colors,
so
the
norm
is
or
the
default.
A
One
is
one
pixels
here
these
two
pixels,
so
we
can
go
even
further
and
then
I'm
creating
I'm
using
shape
lines
right
for
sure.
This
won't
work
on
all
type
of
graphite
and,
depending
on
your
data
that
you
are
transmitting,
it
could
become
very
cluttered
very
fast,
but
if
you
would
sorry
if
you
would
hover
over
them,
like
I'm
doing
here
in
this
case,
I'm
highlighting
series
b,
so
I
get
to
see
it
a
bit
better
when
it
comes
to
pattern.
A
I'm
having
sorry
two
examples
here
on
using
a
pattern,
I'm
not
sure
yet
if
this
is
enough,
this
is
something
that
we
would
like
to
definitely
test
and
also
that
three
different
types
of
patterns
for
a
different
chart
I
was
saying
hoovering
will
highlight
series
b
and
if
I
would
like
to
change
not
only
the
color,
sorry
first,
oh
my
god,
my
my
mouse
is
super
sensitive
tonight.
A
I
could
change
the
entire
color
of
the
whole
series
in
that
panel
by
selecting
a
high
contrast
versus
the
default
one.
Instead
of
just
changing
color
series.
A
For
the
navigation
part,
there
are
a
number
of
things
we
could
be
doing
so
first,
make
it
accessible
by
keyboard.
Only
yeah.
We
want
to
get
there
how
we
may
want
to
make
sure
that
the
focus
order
is,
as
you
see
it,
on
screen
right.
So
the
order
in
the
html.
A
It
follows
what
you
see
on
the
screen.
That
focus
is
visible,
so
that
clickable
elements
show
focus,
and
we
are
talking
here
about
any
type
of
clickable
element,
be
it
links,
be
it
buttons
or
things
that
you
might
not
even
see
in
the
first
place
like
when
you
press,
when
you
click
on
a
panel
title
and
that
it's
actually
a
link
that
opens
a
little
menu
bypass
blocks,
so
provide
a
skip
to
content,
and
this
is
super
important.
A
I
will
show
you
an
example:
make
sure
that
pages
have
appropriate
page
titles
and
avoid
using
elements
that
are
visible
only
on
hoover
how
this
could
look
like
so
right
now,
if
you
are
trying
to
navigate
graph
any
page
in
graph
funnel
using
tabs,
it
will
first
jump
to
the
sidebar
menu
and
it
will
try
to
go
on
in
all
that
links
in
in
the
order
right,
and
maybe
that's
not
what
you
are
after
right.
A
You
might
want
to
be
after
to
I
don't
know
to
edit
a
panel
title
or
create
a
new
dashboard.
In
that
case
we
have
it
should.
The
first
thing
you
should
see
when
you
put
when
you
use
tab,
is
a
link
that
appears
things
keep
the
main
content
right.
So
this
you
all
you're,
only
gonna
see
if
you
are
using
a
keyboard,
if
you
are
just
placing
that,
as
you
focus
on
on
that
page
panel,
title
right.
This
is
something
we
are
not
highlighting
today.
A
It's
just
an
easy
as
adding
a
border
to
that
menu
so
and
then
imagine
that
if
I
would
press
another
tab,
it
will
take
me
to
all
of
these
other
links
the
same.
If
I
do
not
want
to
skip
to
main
content-
and
I
just
want
to
continue
that
menu
at
some
point-
let's
say:
I'm
gonna
reach
dashboards
and
instead
of
this
being
visible
on
hoover.
As
soon
as
I
press
stab,
I
should
see
that
expanded,
mainly.
A
All
right
so
yeah
that
was
that
those
were
a
few
of
my
examples.
I
would
like
to
ask
you:
what
do
you
think
about
these
sort
of
implementations
if
there
are
enough,
if
you'd
like
to
see
something
else
in
here
or
how
do
you
feel
about
this
sort
of
implementation.
B
I
really
like
changing
series
from
colors
from
default
to
high
contrast
right.
The
one
thing
I'm
wondering
is
because,
if
I
remember
correctly,
that
was
on
the
panel
level
right
yeah,
why
not
making
that
on
the
dashboard
level
like?
Why
would
I
want
to
see
only
if
I
have
problem
seeing
certain
colors
then
it
would
maybe
make
more
sense
to
do
it
on
a
on
the
dashboard
level.
So.
A
A
But
then,
if
you
do
not
want
and
most
you,
you
see
okay
most
of
your
panels
and
maybe
just
some
have
some
sort
of
problems.
You
should
also
be
able
to
change
jade
square
panel.
You
know
for
a
brief
moment
for
for
that
specific
data
visualization,
and
in
here
I
would
say
more
than
just
high
contrast
right.
I
would
see
those
examples
I
would
think
about
maybe
selecting
colors
that
are
proper
for
different
color
blindness
before
so
I
would
change
in.
A
In
our
case
we
have
the
default,
warm
colors,
red
orange
and
yellow,
and
I
could
be
chained
choosing
something
that
is
towards
green
or
towards
blue
and
so
meaning
the
red
blind.
People
could
also
see
those
as
intended.
B
No,
that
that
was
actually
sorry
as
much
as
I
like
this
pattern
and
also
you
had
on
the
line
graph
with
different
shapes
yeah,
so
that
works
great
when
panel
is
big
and
you
look,
you
know
from
close-up,
but
if
the
panel
is
small,
those
shapes
may
become
hard
to
differentiate
and
all-
and
the
same
goes
for
this
pattern
in
stack
graph.
A
B
It
may
be
even
more
tricky,
I
mean
we.
What
we
could
try
to
do
is
maybe
have
this
pattern,
because
it's
a
very
tiny
pattern
and
like
it's
very
subtle
thanks
to
that.
But
maybe
what
we
need
to
do
is
just
be
less
subtle
with
those
patterns,
and
then
it
would
work
that
would
be
beautiful,
maybe,
but
it
would
be
way
more
accessible
for
sure.
A
And
I
mean
yeah
yeah,
so
I
think
we
should
play
around
with
the
intensity
of
the
the
pattern
itself
until
we
we
get
to
a
point
like
people
are
actually
seeing
this,
and
this
is
the
hardest
test,
because
no
test
will
tell
you
if
a
pattern
is
visible
enough.
We
really
have
to
find
the
people
to
test
this
with
what
we
could
be
doing,
on
the
other
hand,
is
to
have
a
tiny
switch
on
the
panel
to
activate
or
deactivate
shapes
and
patterns.
A
Yeah
that
as
well,
but
what
you
were
saying-
and
maybe
we
need
to
afford
more
granularity
in
here,
because
what
I'm
thinking
when
you
create
a
dashboard,
you
choose
how
big
your
panel
you
want
to
be,
and
you
could
edit
that
I'm
thinking
this
exact
graph
right,
maybe
you
have
it
twice
one:
it's
a
big
white
panel
and
the
next
one
underneath
is
half
width
of
this
one
right.
So
it
will
work
on
the
bigger
one,
but
not
work
on
the
smaller
one.
A
B
B
I
think,
we've
discussed
this,
but
having
slight
like
themes
which
is
switch
grafana
to
a
mode
where
you
I
have
to
check
what
it's
called,
but
they
have
themes
that
are
super
cool
visually,
but
they
have
a
different
set.
That
is
purely
for
specific
vision,
problems
accessible
and
clear,
and
there
is
one
for
tritanopia
and
one
from
pro.
B
I
can't
read
this,
but
there
are
two
things
that
are
super
specific
for
for
different
vision
problems.
So
maybe
that's
what
we
could
do
on
a
more
general
level
and
maybe
just
starting
with
colors,
there's
nothing
easy
about
colors
and
vision
impairment,
but
that
could
be
easier
than
trying
to
add
patterns
to
stack
graphs
or
shapes
on
line
graphs,
because
the
whole
point
of
adding
shapes
or
patterns
is
to
make
it
more
visible,
right
or
more
distinctive,
whereas
if
we
get
the
colors
right,
it
shouldn't
be
a
problem.
A
Yeah,
there
are
still
places
where
it
still
becomes
like
in
these
examples.
In
the
end,
they
are
just
two
or
three
series,
but
I
was
playing.
Let
me
just
stop
sharing
this
one
and
I'm
gonna
share.
A
While
I
was
playing
today
with
playing
graphata,
if
I'm
gonna
have
this
panel
with
server
requests
in
here,
where
I
have
four
series
and
the
lines
are
so
close
to
one
another,
it's
still
gonna
be
almost
impossible
to
distinguish
among
them.
On
the
other
hand,
another
possibility
would
be
to
kind
of
zoom
like
we
do
here.
I'm
not
sure,
just
if
how
easy
people
are
finding
all
these
works.
That
rafa
has
like
how
easy
do.
A
A
Exactly
right,
so
there
are
other
things.
I
guess
that
they
are
more
related
to
usability,
but
they
also
affect
the
accessibility
overall.
In
the
end,
you
know,
and
how
do
I
reset
this?
I
do
not
okay,
so
yeah,
I
agree
with
you.
We
could
we
start.
A
We
could
start
with
color,
because
that's
easier,
having
different
line
types
in
here
would
be
just
too
much
for
some
will
work
for
some
we
won't,
and
then
we
have
the
big
issue
with
making
sure
we
can
apply
this
for
all
the
panel
types
when
it
comes
to
data
visualization,
even
those
made
by
community
or
how
can
we
make
them,
be
able
to
change
colors.
A
Okay,
what
else
would
you
think
would
be
useful
if
anything
right
now.
B
I
mean
for
me
in
general,
I
think
we're
so
behind
when
it
comes
to
accessibility,
that
having
one
very
accessible
theme
and
fixing
keyboard
navigation
would
be
a
quantum
leap
for
us.
Basically,
at
this
point,
so
I
love
all
the
ideas
and
all
the
stuff
that
you
explore
to
anna
and
I
think
it's
something
we
should
aim
for,
but
even
baby
steps
for
us
are
huge
at
this
moment.
I
think
so
yeah,
that's
that's
my
take
on
it.
A
I
guess
yeah.
If
nobody
else
has
something
we
could
wrap
this
meeting,
I'm
just
checking
right
now.
If
we
have
something
on
the
agenda,
looks
like
not
all
right.
So
what
I
would
say
after
this.
B
Maybe
someone
else
still
have
some
comments
before
we
move
like.
What
do
you
think,
like
is
that
I
don't
know
most
crucial
thing
to
fix
from
your
perspective.
B
B
Richie
says,
if
I
could
I
would
richard
you-
can
also
use
your
voice
if
you
want
to
but
yeah
jeremy,
how
mike
is
broken
in
some
jeremy.
How
about
you
do
you
ever
use
keyboard
to
not
be
gay.
B
A
B
B
B
B
C
A
Yeah,
I
think,
if
you
like,
if
you
want
to
try
it
for
yourselves,
I
wouldn't
advise
I
guess,
but
if
you
do
want
to
try
it
and
you
feel
like
it's
not
working
or
you,
you
heard
something.
Please
reach
us
on
on
slack
on
the
public
slack
or
you
can
write
us
on
twitter.
We
are
on
twitter
as
well
or
any
other
channel
that
works
for
us.
A
We
really
want
to
hear
from
the
community
on
these
topics,
and
I
would
also
ask
you
if
you
have
something
you'd
like
to
discuss
today.
We
still
have
some
time
left.
Is
anything
that's
annoying
you
right
now
or
you
wish
it
would
be
different.
B
Also,
this
will
be
published
on
youtube.
So
if
you
have
any
ideas
or
comments
both
regarding
topics
or
feedback
for
what
I
wanna
present
it
or
a
whole
discussion
about
accessibility,
just
just
drop
a
comment
on
youtube.
We,
we
will
definitely
read
those
yeah
and
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
us,
either
on
slack
or
via
youtube.
A
I
think
this
was
it
all
right.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
attending
and
those
on
youtube
for
watching.
I
hope
you'll
have
a
wonderful
new
year
and
way
better
than
this
one,
not
very
hard
to
do
so
so
keep
up
the
day.
Do.