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From YouTube: Grafana UX Feedback Session 2021-09-15
Description
In this section we looked at folder management and the dashboard app restructure. Feel free to get in touch and leave us a comment below. :)
A
So
to
start
everyone's
going
to
get
a
slight
preview
of
what
I'll
actually
be
presenting
at
the
community
call
tomorrow,
because
I'm
bringing
the
same
topic
up
with
a
slightly
different
spin,
but
what
I'm
really
looking
at
is
how
we
manage
folders.
So
this
is
part
of
the
navigation
project
and
it's
a
little
bit
of
what
lukas
refers
to
as
a
satellite
project,
where
it's
not
about
sort
of
the
primary
navigation.
A
But
it
is
definitely
an
area
where
the
navigation
is
a
little
bit
problematic.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
address
is
that
currently
from
the
sort
of
top
level
of
you
know,
when
you
go
to
manage,
and
then
you
see
your
sort
of
list
of
folders
and
or
dashboards,
you
know
from
that
top
level.
You
can
delete
a
folder,
but
you
can't
take
any
other
action
on
it.
A
Is
it
for
seeing
things,
and
this
will
actually
only
become
more
problematic,
as
we
add
more
types
of
user
generated
content,
things
like
library,
variables
or
any
other
kind
of
like
reusable
chunks
of
content,
basically,
is
the
word.
I
keep
using
to
store
things,
so
the
you
know
really.
What
I'm
trying
to
do
here
is
to
streamline
the
navigation
and
reduce
clicks
to
take
these
actions.
A
Make
sure
that
these
types
of
content
are
treated
consistently
so
that
it's
really
clear
what
you
can
do
to
each
thing
and
you
can
build
a
mental
model
rather
than
kind
of
just
like
memorizing,
where
stuff
goes
and
then
making
room
for
you
know
adding
these
new
types
of
things.
So
before
I
go
into
the
design,
that's
the
problem
set.
I
want
to
just
pause
and
see
if
anyone
has
questions
about
sort
of
the
intent
here
or
the
scope
that
I'm
looking
at.
A
Okay
and
then
also
just
a
friendly
reminder
reminder
that
in
ux
feedback
session
we
do
ask
everybody
to
help
out
on
taking
notes,
please,
because,
when
you're
presenting
it's
very
difficult
to
do
so,
and
then
that
way,
we
don't
just
have
one
person
insured
of
taking
notes.
So
the
nodes
are
linked
to
the
meeting
requests.
So
if
you
all
want
to
chip
in
on
that,
that
would
be
very
helpful.
A
A
This
is
not
like
a
fully
fleshed
out
prototype,
but
to
start
you
know
this
is
sort
of
your
start
view
we're
going
to
talk
about
this
filter
area
a
little
bit
later,
but
one
of
the
things
I
did
was
I
collapsed
down
the
new
dashboard
and
new
and
import
buttons,
because
really
both
of
them
are
creating
a
new
dashboard
in
the
space
and
so
for
now,
I'm
going
with
sort
of
terminology
of
like
create
and
import,
which
gives
us
just
sort
of
like
a
little
bit
more
room,
a
little
more
space
around
here
and
again,
we'll
get
to
filters
later,
but
right
now.
A
What
we're
showing
here
is
that
I
have
these
collapsed
folders
and
a
listing
of
what
is
in
each
folder
from
a
type
and
account.
I
could
go
either
way
on
whether
we
just
do
a
count
or
also
include
the
type
I
find
the
type
helpful,
but
you
know
there.
I
understand
there
might
be
some
sort
of
technical
questions
around
that
when
we
open
the
folder.
A
We
then
have
all
of
our
content
that
is
associated
with
that
folder
listed
in
one
place.
So
remember
today
you
have
to
navigate
to
different
tabs,
see
different
pieces
of
content,
and
so
here
I've
put
it
all
together
in
one
place.
We
have
a
type
column
in
this
table
that
lets.
You
know
what
you're
looking
at.
A
We
have
our
tags,
if
not,
if
they're
being
used
and
then
I
also
kind
of
like
this
idea
of
putting
an
info
column
in
here
where
for
dashboards,
we
would
list
out
the
dashboard
description,
but
for
library
elements
we
would
list
out
sort
of
the
usage
of
where
things
are
being
used
just
so
that
users
might
have
a
better
kind
of
context
for
what's
going
on
with
that
thing,
much
like
today,
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
just
have
you
know
the
checkbox
pop
up
the
two
buttons
that
you
can
either
move
this
or
delete
this,
and
that
that's
sort
of
like
the
end
of
that
interaction.
B
One
minor
feedback
amy
regarding
the
color
coding
of
those
four
items:
one
library
panel,
two
library
variables
blah
blah
blah
on
the
folder
kind
of
row.
I
I
guess
this
is
not
fleshed
out,
but
the
color
for
library
panels
is
kind
of
is,
is
bringing
me
shivers.
I
think
I
I
don't
think
it
should
be
red.
I
guess
it's
red
right
it.
It
kind
of
indicates
to
me
that
something's
wrong
with
something
whatever
that
other
than
I
really
like
the
type
column.
B
I'm
not
sure
if
we
need
to
be
that
verbose,
maybe
that
could
be
kind
of
addressed
with
some
icons,
something
like
that
depends
on
like
how
we
want
to
whether
this
table
is
going
to
be
like
sortable
or
anything
that
this
looks
good
cool.
Thank
you.
C
Okay,
one
thing
that
I'm
clearly
I'm
thinking
is
at
the
top.
There
is
a
lot
of
actions
happening,
so
you
have
three
different
rows
with
buttons
and
I'm
thinking
like.
Where
will
the
user
attention
go
because
you
have
so
one
action,
the
new
dashboard
it's
primary
button,
and
then
you
have
the
delete,
which
kind
of
takes
a
lot
of
attention
being
read
by
default
and
then
the
filtering
side
and
just
here's
if
we
could
put
it
maybe
think
of
yeah
information
architecture
in
that
case
and
how
we
group
things
together.
C
A
Okay,
one
thing
I
thought
of
and
played
with
quite
a
bit
was
instead
of
using
today's
pattern
of
the
selection
popping
up
these
buttons
so
like
before
you
make
a
selection.
It's
gonna
work
for
me,
yeah
before
you
make
a
selection.
A
You
know
you
sort
of
have
these
view
options
I
had
sort
of
played
with
instead
of
in
the
space
having
info
having
icon
actions,
but
it
got
very
crazy
with
every
single
row,
because
I'm
using
these
icons,
which
we'll
look
at
next
I'm
using
these
icons
for
the
folder
actions
and
to
have
the
the
sort
of
content
element
actions
also
be
denoted
by
icons
like
they
were
just
like
icons
everywhere,
and
I
was
thinking
about
from.
A
Like
a
keyboard
navigation
point
of
view,
it
was
turning
into
sort
of
a
nightmare
where
every
single
row
that
you
would
want
to
navigate.
You
would
have
to
get
through
all
of
those
icons
before
you
could
get
to
the
next
row.
So
that
was
why
I
did
come
back
here,
but
I
will
look
at
a
way
of
maybe
kind
of
like
defining
a
little
bit
more
of
a
hierarchy
here.
A
So
I'm
going
to
keep
moving
if
anyone
has
other
feedback
about
sort
of
the
general
layout
of
the
sort
of
like
collapsible
and
the
buttons
and
things
like
that.
Please
drop
it
into
the
notes
or
we'll.
D
Catch
up
one
one
question
in
terms
of
like
when
we
are
showing
all
these
different
different
entity
types
in
one,
so
a
folder
can
contain
library
panels
about
variables,
dashboards
alerts
it
it
becomes
a
bit
problematic
from
an
information
architecture
when,
where
would
this
page
live?
This
page
is
almost
doesn't
live
with
dashboards
alerts
anywhere
because
it
will
show
it's
like
the
top
of
the
folder
viewer
yeah.
D
A
So,
for
the
time
being,
because
alerts
are
managed
in
like
a
completely
different
place,
what
I
had
envisioned-
and
I'm
actually
glad
you
asked
that-
because
I
forgot
to
make
this
point-
was
that
the
alerts
and
again
this
is
like
a
really
rough
prototype.
So
nothing
really
works,
but
the
alerts
would
actually
be
a
link
that
would
open
a
new
tab
and
take
you
to
unified,
alerting
so
we're
not
showing
them
today
in
any
way.
A
In
the
current
folder
view,
which
I
think
is
a
little
bit
misleading,
because
you
can,
you
can
delete
a
folder
that
contains
alerts,
and
while
we
warn
you
that
you
may
be
deleting
alerts,
you
don't
know
what
alerts
are
there
and
you
don't
know
what
you
have
done
and
we
also
currently
do
not
provide
an
easy
way
to
go.
See
that,
like
you,
actually
have
to
like
leave.
A
That
view
go
to
alerts
and
then
go
sort
of
like
see
like
what
folder
is
that
in
so
I
had
been
thinking
that
these
blue
ones
would
actually
be
a
link.
They
would
get
sort
of
the
link
treatment
on
hover.
Excuse
me,
and
we
would
pop
open
that
new
tab,
but
definitely
did
not
look
at
data
sources
and
folders
I'll.
Take
a
look
at
that
as
well.
We.
D
A
Right
and
that's
something
that
I
definitely
want
to
align
with
lukas
has
been
looking
at
sort
of
the
as
part
of
this
navigation
effort,
what
we
are
labeling
things
where
it
does
go
in
terms
of
like
the
dashboard,
like
the
manage
dashboard
area,
so
definitely
more
to
come
on
that
because
I
don't
know
if
you
all
noticed
but
like
my
subtitle
here
is
like
right
now
it
says:
manage
dashboards
and
folders,
but
it's
absolute
panels
and
coming
up
variables
and
there's
probably
gonna,
be
other
stuff
too.
A
Okay,
so
so
that's
sort
of
general
layout.
Let's
take
a
look
at,
as
I
mentioned,
I
wanted
to
talk
about
sort
of
the
folder
actions,
so
I
have
two
options
here:
one
is
sort
of
modal
base
and
one
is
sort
of
more
of
an
accordion
based
and
I'm
going
to
show
them
both
and
then
we
can
talk
and
then
we'll
talk
about
my
third
topic.
So
you
know
now
that
we're
in
this
expanded
view
we
want
to
do
something
to
the
folder.
A
We
want
to
be
able
to
delete
it,
rename
it
or
set
the
permissions
on
it
and
again.
This
is
something
that
today,
you
do
by
navigating
to
different
tabs.
So
this
is
where
I
have
these
action
icons
in
here,
and
so
the
first
sort
of
thought
that
I
had
was
like.
Let's
use
modals
for
this
right.
You
know,
like
we've,
already
got
a
lot
going
on
here.
A
So
if
we
want
to
set
permissions,
we
click
the
lock,
and
then
we
have
this
sort
of
like
very
hacked
together
modal
that
I
put
together.
Please
ignore
all
of
the
shadows
and
things
because
it's
just
a
screenshot
dropped
in
there,
but
you
know
we
have
the
ability
to
set
permissions
and
when
you're
done
with
that,
you
know
you
leave
that's
fine.
If
you
want
to
rename
it
same
thing:
here's
another
modal
and
then,
if
you
want
to
delete
this
is
basically
the
same
as
today.
A
Only
the
one
thing
I
really
wanted
to
do
was
also
kind
of
list
out
you
know
today
we
say
you
want
to
delete
this
folder
and
it
says
like
including
all
dashboards,
library,
panels
and
alerts,
but
that
doesn't
give
me
a
lot
of
context.
So
I'd
like
to
kind
of
provide
that
list
again.
So
that's
the
modal
option
for
doing
this,
and
I'm
going
to
show
the
next
one
and
tell
you
all
what
my
opinion
is.
But
I'd
like
to
hear
your
opinions
as
well.
A
So
in
this
one
you
know
for
delete,
I
still
want
a
modal
and-
and
the
reason
I
still
want
a
modal
is
that
deleting
a
folder
is
an
incredibly
destructive
action.
So
I
want
people
to
stop
and
think
before
they
do
anything,
but
for
the
other
actions,
they're
not
really
super
destructive,
and
I
think
it
could
be
really
helpful
to
have
the
context
of
what's
happening.
A
We
have
the
same
kind
of
thing.
So
personally,
I
I
kind
of
lean
towards
this
option,
but
definitely
interested
in
people's
feedback.
If
they
think
that
you
know,
are
we
getting
kind
of
too
crazy
with
the
scroll
if
the
folder
really
does
have
like
100
dashboards
in
it?
Is
it
just
like
way
too
much
so
looking
for
feedback
on
that
as
well.
E
I
have
a
feeling
that
accordion
might
be
tricky
because
there
might
be
a
lot
of
permissions
set
per
folder
and
there
might
be
a
lot
of
contents
inside
the
folder,
especially
for
the
huge
companies
and
big
grafana
instances.
A
E
That
we
might
end
with
either
two
scroll
boxes
that
you
need
to
scroll
or
two
very
long
boxes
that
actually
lose
this
advantage
of
seeing
the
information
at
once.
E
Yeah,
but
because,
like
a
editing
name,
if
we
want
to
do
it
in
place,
then
that
can
be
just
like
a
clicking
on
the
name
of
the
of
the
folder
itself
as
well
or
having
an
icon.
Next
to
that,
and
just
changing
the
name
as
we
do
with
the
names
of
the
series
in
query.
Editor.
F
B
One
minor
comment
again
need
from
my
site.
I
think
the
padlock
icon
doesn't
indicate
the
permissions
here.
For
for
me
it's
it
indicates
that
this
is
the
slow.
This
folder
is
just
locked
or
something
like
that.
I
would
probably
expect.
B
For
for
permissions.
A
G
D
Yeah,
don't
have
a
super
strong
preference
on
the
icons
on
on
the
modal
versus
the
I
mean
for
for
for
some
of
the
actions
like
like
in
context.
I
model
is
like
a
last
resort.
Most
of
the
time
I
feel
like,
or
it's
better
to
have
like
things
changing
in
context.
Instead
of
being
this
window,
that
overlays
content
content,
I
feel
like
model
is
usually
like
a
last
resort
but
yeah.
D
I
do
get
luke's
point
that
if
you
have
about
50
permission
rows,
you
have
to
scroll
up
to
kind
of
get
the
context
of
which
folder
you're
actually
editing
permissions
for,
if,
if
those
permissions
are,
are
very
sort
of
numerous,
the
biggest
thing
that
that,
in
terms
of
changing
this,
so
not
having
a
folder
page,
you
navigate
to
and
just
having
it
like
in
line
here,
is,
is
being
losing
the
ability
to
like
navigate
to
the
folder
or
like
how
which
we
you
can
do
today
from
like
search
for
example
and
and
sort
of
get
it
get
a
scope
view
of
this
folder
and
what
you
can.
A
I
will
take
a
look
at
that
like
how
we
might
get
here
from
search.
That's
something
that
I
haven't
looked
into
so
I'll.
Take
a
look
at
that
as
well.
It
might
be
that
we-
maybe
we
can
land
here,
but
it's
expanded
I'll.
Take
a
look
at
what
that
might
look
like,
because
that's
something
I
hadn't
considered.
A
A
G
Do
you
go,
would
it
make
sense
to
be
able
to
change
the
folder
name
in
line
like
in
any
other,
like
microsoft,
explorer.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
looked
at
that
we
don't
have
we
don't.
I
that's
not
a
common
pattern
for
us,
so
I
was
kind
of
not
wanting
to
go
there
because,
like
with
dashboards,
it
pulls
up
a
search
today
with
folders.
It
actually
sends
you
to
the
folder.
A
D
A
I
mean
I
like
it
as
a
pattern.
Personally,
I
think
it's
fast
and
I
I
think
luke
suggested
that
also
so
yeah
I'll
take
a
look
at
that
and
see
if
it
muddies
things
at
all,
because
if
that's
the
case
then
all
I
have
left
is
permissions
and
delete
and
maybe
there's
a
better
solution
here.
So
bond
had
his
hand
up,
but
did
he
go?
Oh
there
you
are
okay,
I
lost
you
on
the
screen.
Hi.
H
Everybody
I'm
the
new
guy.
So
just
ignore
me
if
I
ask
silly
questions
with
regards
to
the
delete,
is.
H
To
show
so
I
can't
quite
remember
what
it
looks
like
when
you
click
on
that.
I
don't
know
if
you're
able
to
just
click
the
delete
button
quickly,
please
thanks.
I
I
would
ask
another
question
vaughn.
I
think
it
is
a
good
question.
I
there
are
many
customers
that
use
hundreds
of
library
like
hundreds
of
panels,
you
know,
or
dashboards
or
alerts
there
could
be
many,
many
and
so
at
what
point
at
what
abstraction
level
or
what
abstraction
level
is
helpful
to
the
customer.
Here
would
be
my
my
return
question.
I'm
not
sure
the
names
would
be
helpful.
H
Okay,
yeah,
so
maybe
that
let
me
share
the
thinking
behind
the
question.
I
was
wondering
if
making
it
so
easy
to
delete
something
that-
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
roll
back
and
undelete
it
like
under
it,
but
make
it
so
easy
to
delete
something
without
really
seeing
exactly
what
it
is
that
you're
deleting.
H
Making
it
easy
for
people
to
make
mistakes
again,
I'm
still
getting
used
to
who
the
users
are
and
how
they
work
and
think-
and
you
know
how
this
what
the
system
patterns
are
are
like,
but
I'm
just
imagine
over
here.
It's
obviously
easy
to
see.
There's
like
one
thing
or
two
thing,
but
as
you're
saying
in
a
case
where
there's
like
hundreds,
you
know
what
would
be
the
solution
to
even
see
if
there's
something
there
that
that
you
would
need
to
see
and
not
delete
but
yeah.
A
Yeah,
I
mean
so
a
system
that
I
worked
on
in
the
past,
where
we
had
very
destructive
delete
actions.
We
actually
included
a
checkbox
that
would
not
enable
the
delete
button
until
it
was
selected
and
the
checkbox
label
said
I
understand
this.
Action
cannot
be
undone,
and
so
it
made
the
user
sort
of
like
whoa
stop.
This
is
not
undoable
or,
like
you
know,
like
the
whatever
sort
of
like
the
really
bad
thing
would
be.
We
would
list
that
and
make
them
select
that
checkbox
and
then
say
that
they
would
delete.
A
This
is
actually
like
a
two-step
interaction
that
might
be
something
worth
considering
here
as
well,
especially
for
these
extremely
large
folders,
with
lots
and
lots
lots
of
content.
So.
I
You
and
I
had
talked
about
amy
when
we
looked
at
this
together
last
week,
and
this
is
perhaps
neither
here
nor
there,
but
I'll
share
it
with
the
team.
Is
that
the
as
code
working
group
is
developing
a
method
to
archive
or
backup
a
lot
of
these
objects
in
grafana
into
git,
for
example,
and
so
there's
there's
a
possible
future
where
there
is
exactly
a
checkbox
and
its
secondary
function,
or
something
to
that
effect
is
that
all
these
objects
are
archived
in
vcs,
before
they're
removed
from
grafana
as
a
sort
of
security
blanket.
A
Okay,
so
I
know
that
there
are
more
comments
and
I
see
your
hands
raised
and
I'm
glad
everyone's
chiming
in,
but
we
I
do
have
one
more
thing
I
need
to
show
before
my
30
minutes
is
up.
So
if
you
can,
please
drop
it
into
the
notes
or
just
follow
up
with
me
on
slack.
I
would
love
to
continue
the
conversation
that
way.
So
the
last
thing
I
want
to
show
is
sort
of
my
options
for
filtering.
So
again,
I
have
kind
of
like
two
options.
A
I
have
one
that
I
definitely
prefer
over
the
other,
so
I
had
said
earlier
like
just
ignore
this
whole
section
right
now,
but
now
we're
going
to
stop
ignoring
it.
So
in
this
situation
I
have
two
filters
that
are
set
and
I'm
sort
of
like
listing
them
here
and
then
I
have
a
clear
button.
A
So
just
pretend
like
this
content
is
being
filtered
and
again
like
I'm
trying
to
keep
this
with
not
like
a
thousand
elements
up
here
because
of
the
fact
that,
from
my
keyboard
navigation
point
of
view,
it
gets
really
ugly
if
you
have
to
to
even
get
to
your
folders
get
through.
You
know
like
10
years
worth
of
tabbing,
or
you
know
arrow
buttons,
so
here
we're
going
to
show
the
filter
options
and
again
we
have
this
sort
of
accordion
option.
A
A
So
in
the
example
that
I
have
shown
here,
we
are
showing
all
dashboards
that
are
not
starred
and
users
can
either
you
know
clear
them
or
they
can
add
another
row,
and
so
you
can
kind
of
build
this
more
complex
filter
as
you
go,
and
then
you
can
remove
rows
once
they've
been
added,
so
that's
option.
One
is
accordion
option:
two
is
using
a
right
hand
drawer.
A
So
now
we're
all
the
way
over
here
and
here
I'm
saying
how
many
things
how
many
filters
are
set,
so
we're
showing
two
and
when
we
open
the
drawer,
we
just
get
again
right.
A
Now,
it's
pretty
simple,
but
again
as
our
types
of
content
grow
and
as
we
are
using
our
folder
structure
more,
I
think
we'll
probably
find
more
and
more
things
we
want
to
filter
on,
and
so
this
works
a
lot
more
like
a
typical
kind
of
like
shopping
experience,
filter
where
it's
just
these
check
boxes
and
you
can
clear
them
and
then,
when
you're
done,
you
can
close
the
drawer,
which
I
can't
do
right
now,
because
it's
buried
under
my
hover,
but
so
quickly
any
thoughts
on
those
two
options.
C
Giving
a
question
on
your
first
option,
like
the
one
that
opens
above
in
line,
how
many
filters
are
you
expecting
to
have
in
total?
I
mean
why
and
pretty
much.
The
question
is,
why
not
show
them
all
at
once,
so
the
user
doesn't
have
to
click
over
and
over
to
create
yeah.
A
Yeah
I
mean
right
now
at
most
we
could
have
three
rows
here.
I
just
wanted
to
show
what
it
would
look
like
with
two,
but
I
I
could
show
them
all
one
of
the
problems
I
was
having
you
know
I
would
go
with
a
more
horizontal
layout
than
I'm
showing
in
the
drawer
right
now,
and
I
just
personally
wasn't
loving
how
it
was
looking
laid
out,
but
I
can
take
another
look
if
I
think
I
need
to.
C
I
mean
I
like
this
option.
They,
if
it
had
like
less
clicks,
because
I'm
I've
seen
this
pattern
more
often
where
the
filters
kind
of
open,
above
whatever
you
are
filtering
and
being
able
to
see
them
all
at
once
and
not
having
to
click
to
see
like
what's,
adding
neurals
can
work
fast,
even
if
they
are
more
vertical.
But
in
a
way
we
can
reapply
this
in
other
places
as
well.
A
Okay,
luke,
you
have
your
hand
up.
E
Yeah
so
like
I'm,
I'm
just
wondering
like
if
having
filters
hidden
under
the
button
doesn't
actually
like
limit
this
discoverability
of
those
filters
and,
in
the
sake
of
not
having
like
a
ton
of
them
on
top,
we
should
more
focus
on
picking
the
actual
the
filters
that
are
actually
relevant
for
people,
but
keeping
them
visible
all
the
time,
instead
of
hiding
them
behind
the
button.
A
Yeah
I
mean
so
today
we
show
them
all
of
the
time
so
all
well.
Actually
there
are
only
two
filters
today
because
you
cannot
filter
by
type,
because
the
way
that
you
see
by
type
is
that
you
navigate
to
different
tabs,
and
so
you
know
from
from
my
perspective,
adding
one
more
probably
isn't
that
bad.
But
then,
when
we
add
another
type
of
content,
we're
gonna
have
another
one.
A
A
I
mean
I
guess
from
like
a
navigation
point
of
view.
It's
really
only
adding
like
one
more
I'll.
Look
at
that.
Let
me
let
me
take
another
look
at
that.
I
think
I
need
to
think
about
that
a
little
bit,
but
that's
good
feedback.
Thank
you.
A
So
I
am
basically
up
against
my
time,
so
just
so
that
everyone
is
aware
of
sort
of
next
steps
on
this.
So
again,
please
drop
any
comments
that
you
might
have
that
we
didn't
get
to
today.
In
the
notes,
or
hit
me
up
on
slack,
I'm
going
to
be
giving
an
overview
of
this.
A
We
went
pretty
in
in-depth
today,
but
I'm
going
to
give
an
overview
during
the
community
call
tomorrow,
where
I
will
be
asking
people
to
take
time
to
meet
with
me
to
do
some
more
sort
of
in-depth
like
how
do
you
use
folders
today?
Do
you
filter?
Do
you
search
how
you
know
what
what
are
you
you
know?
A
What
are
your
plans
for
how
you
work
this,
so
I'm
hoping
to
get
a
lot
more
information
based
on
the
community
call
tomorrow,
so
I
will
let
everyone
know
how
that
goes,
and
that
is
it
for
me
today
thanks
everyone.
E
I
will
be
super
fast
because
I
know
we
have
next
session
coming
up,
so
the
topic
I
have
for
you
today
is
a
bit
of
a
change
to
the
information
architecture
of
the
dashboarding
up
and
to
the
icons
on
the
nav
bar,
basically
to
make
a
space
and
actually
enable
new
navigation
to
work
accordingly
to
the
mental
models
of
people
and
to
reflect
actually
the
information
architecture
to
the
navigation
to
reflect
the
information
architecture
of
different
apps
and
historically,
the
problem
we
are
facing
is
is
related
to
the
fact
that
a
previously
graph
graphana
started
as
a
visualization
and
dashboarding
tool.
E
So
it
makes
sense
that
features
related
to
dashboards
were
also
sprinkled
across
navigation,
but
because
we
are
growing
and
there
are
more
features
and
more
apps
and
more
things
on
the
navigation
it.
It
starts
to
be
confusing
and
we
are
also
discussing
introducing
the
new
home
page
template,
which
also
affects
how
the
homepage
will
look
like
and
right
now.
The
homepage,
as
you
probably
know,
is
nothing
more
than
the
special
type
of
the
of
the
dashboard.
So
what
I
definitely
want
to
want?
E
You
to
think
about
when,
like
watching
what
I
will
be
showing
is
to
spot
any
risks
that
you
see
with
with
the
changes
that
I
will
talk
about
and
to
note
down
or
raise
any
things
that
we
that
we
missed
or
haven't
considered
with
that.
So
what
and
the
changes
are
not
impacting
the
interface
they're
mainly
impact
what
what
elements
we
show
and
where
so
there
are
no
new
components,
no
or
no
new
ui
elements
there
at
least
yet.
So
there
are
like
a
few
changes
proposed.
E
So
first
one
is
the
home
dashboard
and
the
name
of
the
home
dashboard,
because
right
now
it
is
called
like
a
home
under
the
general
tab.
So
the
first
proposition
is
to
basically
call
the
home
page
home
and
to
express
that
with
an
icon
as
well,
especially
that
the
whole
home
dashboard,
although
it
is
shown
as
belonging
to
general
folder,
actually
is
not
present
in
the
general
folder
when
you
navigate
to
to
general
folder.
Basically,
so
it
is
not
exposed
there.
So
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
to
show
it
here.
E
So
that's.
The
first
thing
so
sounds
sounds
really
sounds
really
simple,
but
it's
definitely
tricky
because
people
are
used
to
all
those
things
that
we
are
discussing
here.
E
The
second
thing
is
renaming
the
the
dashboard
dashboarding
up
homepage,
which
is
right
now
called
manage,
as
you
already
know,
also
from
the
presentation
of
amy.
So
the
suggestion
is
to
change
this
to
browse,
because
most
users,
who
are
not
editors
or
admins,
either
way
use
that
list
in
a
browsing
mode
because
they
cannot
manage
folders
or
or
dashboards.
So
changing
that
to
browse
will
first
of
all
refer
reflect
more.
E
What
most
of
the
people
are
are
doing,
because
you
cannot
manage
when
you're
when
you're
a
viewer
and
you
don't
have
a
permissions
to
manage
folders
and
it
and
a
tab
is
still
called
manage.
E
So
so
it
makes
no
sense
for
people,
and
the
second
thing
related
to
that
is
then,
when
you
hover
over
dashboard
icon,
that
page
will
be
called
called
browse
and
not
manage,
and
this
makes
more
sense
for
people,
because
when
they
hover
over
dartboard
icon,
they
want
to
understand
how
to
see
the
list
of
dashboards
and
how
to
browse
them.
And
today
we
don't
have
any
like
a
keyword
that
expresses
that
intention,
because
here
we
have
manage
so
changing
that
to
browse
is
a
is
a
second
thing.
E
The
third
thing
that
is
definitely
more,
maybe
more
more
risky,
but
would
align
with
with
the
information
architecture
that
we
actually
have
is
to
remove
the
home
element
from
the
dashboards
menu.
So
right
now
before
browse,
we
have
a
home
and
the
home
actually
redirects
you
to
the
home
page,
but
that
is
not
a
home
page
of
the
dashboarding
app.
That's
the
homepage
of
the
whole
grafana.
E
So
people,
often
when
they
see
the
home
under
the
dashboard
icon
they
they
think
that
when
they
click
home,
they
will
be
moved
to
the
home
of
the
dashboard
app
which
in
their
heads,
is
actually
the
browse
page
and
the
the
home
is
already
the
icon,
the
grafana
icon.
Here
that
said,
that
can
be
challenging
or
because
people
might
might
be
used
to
that.
E
So
we
definitely
need
to
learn
more
about
that
and
do
some
usability
studies
with
with
people
on
that
terms,
and
if
people
will
be
missing
the
home
icon,
then
the
suggestion
would
be
to
just
put
a
home
icon
on
the
nav
bar
basically
to
to
give
people
like
a
two
options
on
enough
bar
to
go
to
the
to
the
home
page,
and
the
last
thing,
probably
the
most
tricky
related
to
the
restructuring
of
the
dashboard
apps
is
actually
related
to
to
removing
the
odd
button
from
the
nav
bar,
because
right
now
the
add
button,
what
it
does.
E
It
only
allows
you
to
add
a
new
folder,
add
a
new
dashboard
or
basically
import
dashboard.
So
those
are
actions
related
and
connected
to
the
to
the
dashboards
and
connected
also
to
the
management
of
the
dashboards,
and
they
are
like
available
here
or
as
with
the
amy's
concept,
they
will
still
be
available
when
you
enter
the
dashboard
up.
So
that's
the
one
one
direction
to
remove
the
odd
button
from
the
nav
bar
completely
the
second
option.
E
If
someone
is
a
enterprise
customer
and
because
this
will
be
also
more
aligned
with
the
mental
model
of
people
that
in
the
nav
bar
than
the
the
plus
represents
adding
resources
to
the
grafana
as
a
whole,
and
not
only
to
adding
things
related
to
the
to
the
dashboard
themselves.
So
those
are
all
the
changes
they
are
tricky
and
we
definitely
need
to
learn
more
especially
about
what
happens
when
there
is
no
home
link
apart
from
the
grafana
logo
and
how
people
are
attached
to
the
plus
icon
on
the
on
the
nav
bar.
E
A
So,
just
one
quick
comment
from
me
that
I
did
a
really
sort
of
like
quick
internal
observe
people
navigating
grafana
when
I
first
joined,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
found
pretty
interesting,
was
that
almost
nobody
used
the
grafana
logo
as
a
way
to
return
home
people
tended
to
either
use
the
back
button
or
just
sort
of
like
manage
their
way
back
to
where
they
were
going.
But
very
few
people
seemed
to
understand
that
that's
that
functionality
was
there.
A
G
Hugo,
yes,
a
short
question:
changing
the
home
title
nav
thing
to
house
home:
will
we
will
the
users
still
be
able
to
search.
E
By
clicking
on
on
home
yeah,
so
that
is
a
very
interesting
interesting
thing.
To
be
honest,
I
don't
even
remember
if,
like
clicking
right
now
on
home
on
the
home
page
actually
opens
the
search.
E
I
don't
remember
that
I
think
I
never
clicked
on
a
home
on
the
home
page
yeah,
because
if
it
does,
then
we
can
keep
keep
that
basically
to
home
to
launch
the
search.
We
know
that
this,
like
a
clicking
on
the
also
on
the
dashboard
titles.
I
I
think
like
at
some
point.
E
We
removed
that
and
people
were
very
confused
with
that,
because
that's
in
their
muscle
memory,
so
sticking
to
that
pattern
that
the
that
the
name
here
launches
search
is
definitely
something
that
we
can
keep
keep,
because
basically
it
is
just
like
removing
the
general
and
changing
the
icon
in
the
end,
so
we
don't
have
to
change
how
that
element
behaves.
It
is
more
about
to
like
reflect
what
is
actually
happening.
F
Yeah,
so
one
thing
I
think,
talk
also
wrote
it
down
that,
for
instance,
when
I
click
home,
I
go
to
a
specific
dashboard
at
the
septus
home
dashboard.
So
it's
basically
the
dashboard,
which
is
my
main
dashboard.
I
look
at.
F
Secondly,
I
think
the
issue
that
amy
brought
up
with
the
grafana
icon
not
being
used
as
a
home
button
is
that
over
time
it
was
just
as
a
way
to
hide
and
show
things.
So,
basically
it
was.
It
didn't
function
as
a
home
button
for
quite
some
time,
but
since
that
was
a
weird
behavior,
we
changed
it
to
the
home.
F
Other
than
that,
I
really
like
the
idea
of
an
add
button
that
you
can
add
anything
on
like
data
sources
and
dashboards
and
so
forth.
That,
I
think,
is
a
really
good
thing.
D
So
some
some
comments
with
the
manage
and
browse
this
just
kind
of
the
this
is
the
original
intent
of
of
this
view
was
an
admin
view.
Basically,
so
that's
why
it's
called
manage
was
to
throw
for
users
to
move
folders
around
move
dashboards
around
through
folders
access
permissions
and
and
manage
dashboards
so
and
and
for
browsing
search
is
like
the
thing
that
I
think
through.
A
E
As
a
comment
on
that,
I
totally
get
that,
but
if
we
ever
move-
and
I
think
we
have
a
appetite
to
do
so-
if
we
ever
expand
the
search
features
to
be
like
a
unified
search,
then
we
can
rely
less
on
search
to
be
actually
the
dashboard
the
dashboard
list,
because
it
would
have
to,
in
the
first
view
like
a
in
the
untyping
state,
it
should
probably
show
some
like
the
suggestions
of
what
can
be
searched
and
how
it
can
be
searched
or
provide
like
a
recent
searches
and
all
that
stuff.
E
So
we
we
can
pretty
soon
lose
the
capability
of
search
to
be
basically
the
list
of
the
of
the
dashboard.
D
E
Yeah
but
but
the
the
the
darbur
up
will
be
still
there
and
people
click
on
the
dashboard
and
they
don't
know
how
to
get
the
list
of
the
dashboards,
especially
if
they're
infrequent
users
of
guru
hana
so
and
like.
I
totally
get
that,
and
I
also
have
like
this
conflict
in
my
head-
that
it
will
be
named
like
a
browse,
but
it
will
be
for
for
managing.
E
But
I
I
think
that
that's
a
like
a
step
on
the
path
and
the
first
one
that
we
are
making,
because
like
right
now,
there's
also
like
a
the
other
situation
where
the
list
view
is
basically
called
or
the
browser
view
is
basically
called
manage.
So
I
guess
we
are
all
at
grafana
using
grafana's
in
administrative
mode,
let's
say,
but
in
many
companies
most
users
are
using
that
in
a
as
viewers.
E
So
it
means
that
what
is
obvious
for
us
and
what
is
the
default
state
for
us-
is
not
a
default
state
for
most
of
the
of
the
users.
So
thus,
I
would
say,
like
the
smaller
group
of
people
who
should
deal
with
a
bit
of
inconsistency
in
the
naming
of
the
top,
then
than
the
the
bigger
group,
but
it's
not
a
perfect
solution.
Definitely.
D
I
I
agree,
but
it's
just,
I
think
in
general
yeah
we
should
look
at
search
sort
of
for
for,
like
being
the
the
browse
exp
for
being
and
because
well,
it
feels
it
almost
feels
like
we're
doing
universal,
unified
search
in
almost
two
ways
by
like
with
the
thing
that
amy
addressed
with
like
making
mixing
all
different
types.
In
this
view,
it's
sort
of
a
unified
search
in
a
way,
or
we
will
basically
have
to
solve
some
of
the
unified
search
problems,
because
this
view
uses
search.
D
They
basically
have
two
views
for
search,
one
that
one
with
with
multi-action.
Anyway,
that's
a
more
critical
issue:
yeah.
D
Need
to
start
somewhere
there's
definitely
a
lot
of
overlap
between
this
view
and
search.
I
mean
they
use
the
same
component
right
now,
yeah
with
the
with
the
home.
The
only
the
biggest
problem
is
that
people
will
be
very
accustomed
to
clicking
on
the
home
on
the
dashboard
icon
to
get
to
their
home
home
dashboard.
A
D
E
Yeah,
I
I
agree,
and
definitely
that's
also
like
a
step
toward
that,
but
we
don't
have
a
homepage
as
a
standalone
thing
feature
page
page
yet
so
we
are
dealing
with
the
current
situation,
but
but
yeah,
but
I
guess,
like
the
send
the
overall
sentiment
from
most
of
you
is
basically
to
have
a
home
icon
on
the
navbar
as
a
additional
icon.
There.
E
Which
I
totally
get-
and
I
was
like
more
like
adventurous
in
removing
that
home
altogether
and
just
resorting
to
the
to
the
grafana
logo
as
a
way
to
navigate
home.