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From YouTube: City of Groton Planning & Zoning Commission 5/11/20
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City of Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting May 11,, 2020. To view the agenda click the link below.
https://cityofgroton.com/event/special-planning-zoning-commission-agenda/?instance_id=3099
A
All
right,
so
I'm
ready
to
call
this.
The
may
may
11th
meeting
of
the
grant
planning
and
zoning
commission
to
order
at
6
38.
My
computer
says
so
in
terms
of
roll
call
on
establishing
quorum.
We
have
ms
bergeron
mr
bumgardner,
mr
keeler,
mrs
streeter,
mr
streeter,
mr
foster
and
mr
duncan
waller
in
attendance.
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B
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E
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A
A
A
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A
F
Correct
we'll
come
back
to
that
after
because
the
recommendation,
as
you
can
see,
would
be
to
july
13th
right,
we
can't
meet
on
those
tuesday
nights.
I
want
the
commission
to
understand
the
reason
why
we're
moving
these
around
is
that
we,
we
can't
have
the
meeting
on
tuesday
night
with
the
tv
due
to
the
fact
that
the
town
council
has.
A
A
All
right
so
then.
The
next
item
is
new
business
and
this
is
a
pro
public
presence
presentation
by
electric
boat
for
modifications,
the
special
permit,
461
coastal
site
plant
314
site
plant
469,
electric
boat
self-yard
assembly
building.
So
I
would
open
that
up
to
the
whoever
is
presenting
that
application
for
electric
bulb.
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B
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B
E
G
J
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E
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H
B
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E
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B
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G
Yeah,
so
the
only
the
first
plan
that
is
up
on
the
screen
right
now
is
not
in
your
packet,
but
it's
it's
the
typical
site
plan
of
the
overall
site
that
I
always
show
with
the
blue
water,
I'm
just
to
give
you
a
location
we're
down
in
this
very
south
southern
part
of
the
of
the
shipyard,
there's
a
lot
of
railroad
tracks
where
our
previous
application
for
the
south
yard
assembly
building
there
was
a
construction
road
in
this
area.
So
we're
looking
to
place
some
fill
that's
from
on-site
and
jill.
A
G
G
G
G
G
The
area
circled
for
the,
where
we'll
be
placing
all
this
material
and
on
the
edges
and
at
the
top
of
the
hill,
we'll
be
placing
erosion,
control,
matting
and
seeding
it
to
allow
a
natural
restoration
into
the
existing
grass.
That's
there
and
then
put
in
the
middle
and
it
will
be
placed
with
riprap.
This
will
allow
for
extra
compaction
and
to
stabilize
the
hillside
faster,
we'll
be
placing
erosion
control
measures
at
the
toe
of
slope.
It
will
be
keyed
in
so
that
there's
less
it
won't
be
as
susceptible
to
erosion.
G
H
F
G
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F
F
F
G
F
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G
G
F
So
this
is
carlton
smith,
so
the
first
building
you'd
see
on
eastern
plain
road.
That's
getting
the
audition
is
building
80.
about
three.
Four
years
ago
we
built
building
83,
it's
the
same
same
building
kind
of
building,
it's
for
the
it's
for
the
navy,
guys
on
there
and
it's
and
that
building
is
probably
about
100
feet
away
from
building
80.
and
building.
83
is
probably
another
100
feet
to
where
this
fill
area
is
that
you're
going
to
go
down
to.
H
H
A
G
G
G
G
It
does,
it
will
fall
under
since
electric
boat.
The
entire
shipyard
facility
has
an
improved
remedial
action
plan
and
this
will
be
added
to
it.
It
is
the
area
of
soil
to
be
excavated,
meets
the
connecticut,
deep,
applicable
rsr
standards
and
is
not
subject
to
remediation
or
any
further
remedial
action
plan.
A
G
So
the
soil
is
going
to
be
placed
starting
at
the
base
of
the
hillside,
and
it's
going
to
be
using.
You
know,
bulldozer
other
equipment
to
push
the
soil
up
the
hill
and
the
soils
will
be
compacted
as
it's
going
as
it's
being
placed.
So
as
the
machinery
you
know,
an
excavator
bulldozer
is
bringing
material
up,
it
will
be
rolling
over
the
hillside
and,
if
necessary,
it
will
be
rolled
by
a
standard.
Vibratory
roller.
G
G
A
All
right
so
so
we
don't
expect
any
any
impacts
on
the
on
the
adjacent,
neighborhood
or
the
or
the
or
the
residents
in
that
neighborhood,
no
additional
issues
with
noise
or
dust
or
work
hours
beyond
what
is
already
occurring.
Correct.
That's
correct,
yeah,
in
approximately
two
to
three
months
in
duration.
A
G
G
On
the
on
the
west
side
of
the
railroad
tracks,
there
is
ledge
you're
sitting
in
a
valley.
So
once
you
come
down
the
30
feet,
you
cross
the
railroad
tracks
and
then
you're
probably
going
to
have
another
15
to
20
foot
hillside
to
cross
before
you.
It
goes
up
and
then
it
goes.
It
starts
to
go
back
down
along
the
into
the
river,
so
runoff
along
there
will
run
along
the
railroad
tracks
and
into
existing
drainage,
but
it
won't
directly
go
into
the
thames
river
from
this
hillside.
G
F
A
I
Reviewed
it
for
consistency
for
erosion,
control
measures,
as
well
as
for
the
consistent
constituents
of
the
soil
that
will
be
placed
there.
It's
considered
polluted
soil,
which
is
it
contains
contaminants,
but
to
a
level
that
is
of
a
very
minor
nature,
according
to
deep
regulations
and
so
from
an
environmental
standpoint.
This
is
a
common
practice
to
lose
polluted
soil
on
the
project
site,
rather
than
haul
it
off
at
great
expense
to
a
distant
facility
for
treatment
processing.
I
I
The
movement
of
that
construction
equipment
will
compact
the
soil
to
a
certain
extent.
This
slope
does
not
have
to
be
what
they
call
load
bearing
so
there
will
be
compaction
of
the
soil
to
to
a
sufficient
amount
where
the
soil
should
not,
let's
say,
go
eroding
down
the
slope,
especially
after
the
rip
wrap
course
is
placed
on
top.
I
There
will
be
18
inches
of
intermediate
rip,
wrap
to
further
protect
the
slope,
protect
the
soils
that
are
underneath
and
as
far
as
visual
impact,
there
will
be
no
visual
impact
from
the
street
and
essentially,
what
this
is
is
best
depicted
on
sheet
syc155
in
the
cross
section,
which
depicts
really
just
an
extension
of
that
same
slope.
There's
no
gain
in
height
of
the
slope,
it's
just
being
added
to
and
further
extended
to
the
west,
to
accommodate
the
deposition
of
this,
the
soil
that
they
are
trying
to
lose.
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C
Yeah,
jim
streeter
has
another
question:
the
operation
itself
going
will
be
running
24
hours
a
day
and
the
reason
why
I
say
that
you're
going
to
have
the
heavy
duty
construction
bulldozers
moving
that
around,
and
I
know
from
my
experience
living
for
the
toward
the
thames
river
as
an
example
the
sand
pile
in
new
london
when
they
were
offloading
the
barges
or
or
the
freighters.
With
that
that
you
would
hear
those
those
bulldozers
running
24
hours
a
day,
and
it
was
you
know
it's
kind
of
agitating
to
to
people
in
the
area.
A
A
Then
erosion
wouldn't
seem
to
be
a
major
problem,
but
what
about
a
big
rainstorm
during
the
you
know
what
what
we
still
have
exposed
soil
which
is
going
to
be
you
know
it's
a
two
or
three
month
project,
so
I
am
assuming
that
month
or
two
of
that
will
the
soil
will
be
exposed.
So
what
what?
What
keeps
you
know
the
whole
thing
from
sliding
downhill
while
well,
the
construction
is
ongoing.
G
A
F
This
is
carlton
smith,
so
I
want
to
bring
you
to
a
couple
of
sections
in
the
in
our
zoning
regulations
that
we
should
consider
so
the
first
one
is
site
plan
application,
we're
at
9.3,
2
and
four
and
then
sub
a
the
first
thing.
It
says
in
modif,
under
the
four
modifications
to
be
approved,
site
plan
shall
be
reviewed
by
the
city,
planner
or
commission,
as
may
be
applicable
and
classified
as
either
a
minor
major
or
using
the
guidelines
outline
outline
below.
F
So
I
I'm
recommending
to
the
commission
that
this
is
minor
for
the
site
plan
side
of
this
and
we'll
then,
after
I
tell
you
the
other
section
under
a
special
permit.
That
I'll
also
have
the
attorney
talk
to.
We
did
have
it
reviewed
by
third
party
review.
As
I
said,
this
isn't,
as
as
you
heard
stan
just
testified
to
you
that
this
isn't
a
real
compaction
piece
that
we
need
a
structural
moment
to
because
we're
putting
a
building
on
it.
F
It's
truly
about
putting
the
rip
rap
in
and
containing
the
soils
until
they're
stabilized
for
those
rain.
Events
like
like
the
commission
brought
up
so
under
9.4
g4.
Make
sure
I
got
the
right
page
g4,
yes,
it's
under
an
approved
special
permit
may
be
amended
or
modified,
provided
the
applicant
shall
be
made
in
the
same
manner
as
the
original
applications
and
subject
to
the
same
procedure.
F
I'm
recommending
that
this
may
be
this
should
be
considered
minor
and
that
the
commission
does
not
need
to
go
back
to
a
public
hearing
on
that
with
that
being
said,
I
hope
that's
why
we
have
the
staff
attorney
on
here
tonight
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
didn't
miss
something
that
could
trip
us
up
later.
Brian.
Can
you
opine
on
this.
J
Yes,
mr
smith,
mr
chairman,
brian
leclair,
burch
and
moses,
mr
smith,
is
correct
and
he
cited
the
correct
sections
of
eurozoning
regulations
for
the
city
in
particular
9.4,
as
he's
determined
that
this
is
a
minor,
an
amendment
to
the
existing
special
permit,
which
you've
previously
approved
and
he's
determined.
This
amendment
is
of
a
minor
nature.
You
have
the
authority
without
another
public
hearing
to
approve
this
this
evening.
Mr
chairman,.
J
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A
A
F
Smith,
yeah
so
to
tonight.
Well,
you're
really
going
to
receive
this
on
may
19th
you.
I
know
it's
in
your
packet,
it's
because
it's
a
special
meeting.
You
have
to
receive
it
on
the
regular
scheduled
meeting
night,
and
that
starts
the
clock
on
there.
I
am
asking
the
commission
tonight
per
9.3
d
number
12,
which
states
it's
proceedings
that
9.3
d
is
and
number
12
says.
The
commission
may
require
additional
technical
assistance
to
evaluate
an
application,
the
extent
of
which
we
paid
by
the
applicant
has
set
forth
in
the
city
ordinance.
F
So
this
is
a
parking
lot.
That's
going
to
go
behind,
building
80
on
the
side
and
behind
building
80..
It's
an
area
we
just
talked
about
tonight
that
they
would
like
to
percolate
the
waters,
the
soil,
the
the
waters
down
through
and
then
whatever
comes
out,
would
go
over
the
same
hillside
that
we
just
approved
tonight
for
for
their
for
their
application.
So
I
need
some.
F
I
need
third
party
review
for
the
for
the
drainage,
calcs
and
and
the
compaction
that
has
to
happen
with
the
parking
lot
up
that
high
I'm
also
suggesting
instead
of
the
july.
I'm
sorry,
the
next
meeting
that
we
actually
postponed
it
out
to
the
july
13th
meeting,
because
the
next
meeting
that
we
could
get
in
to
get
to
is
is
june
8th.
I
don't
think
I
have
enough
time
to
get
third
party
review
done
that
quickly,
with
all
the
other
things
that
are
coming
at
us.
At
the
same
time,.
A
F
A
D
D
Okay,
so
this
text
amendment
is
essentially
proposed
to
allow
floating
zones
within
the
city
of
groton.
Floating
zones
are
basically
zones
that
will
overlay
over
existing
zones
and
provide
options
for
more
uses
available
to
them
right
now.
This
has
to
go
before
a
public
hearing
with
by
the
commission,
because
it's
adding
an
amendment
to
the
zoning
regulations,
essentially
what's
going
to
happen,
is
this
has
to
be
reviewed
to
a
few
other
different
review
bodies,
the
first
being
the
southeast.
D
The
two
of
us
are
sort
of
working
as
contractors
with
the
city
of
groton
right
now
on
this
project,
but
it
has
to
be
reviewed
by
the
council
of
governments
formally,
and
it
also
has
to
be
reviewed
by
the
department
of
energy
and
environmental
protection,
so
that
has
to
be
done
at
least
35
days
prior
to
the
hearing.
So
at
this
point
we're
recommending
that
the
hearing
be
scheduled
at
the
july
meeting
of
the
planning
zoning
commission.
A
D
F
A
A
F
F
F
F
A
A
All
right
here,
I'm
hearing
nothing
this.
This
is
paul
kokomo
again,
I
guess
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
is
confirm
the
dates
for
the
june
and
july
meetings.
We're
going
to
have
a
couple
of
public
hearings.
It
looks
like
in
july,
and
that
month
we
need
to
move
from
the
21st
to
the
13th.
Is
that
correct.
F
A
F
A
A
Right,
thank
you,
so
we
so
we're
which
it's
likely
we'll
need
to
have
a
meeting
in
june,
and
it
would
be
either
the
16th
at
four
or
possibly
the
eighth,
which
would
be
that's.
The
will
be
the
second
monday
right.
Yes,
second
monday
in
june
will
be
the
eighth.
That
would
be
the
same
pattern.
We've
been
followed
this
month
and
we're
going
to
follow
in
july.
F
A
F
F
A
F
F
First
item
up,
I
think
maybe
the
mayor
would
speak
about
this.
Also,
I
know
brian
is
and
that's
for
I've
got
it
on
the
request
for
zone
waiver
for
the
summer
fall
season
for
2020,
as
you
may
have
been
reading
or
hearing
the
governor
has
been
hasn't
quite
made
an
executive
order,
but
we've
understand
there's
you
know:
we've
been
planning
for
this
outdoor
dining
facilities
and
bars
and
businesses.
F
There
will
be
a
skype
meeting
with
the
town
and
city
tomorrow
with
all
the
businesses
that
can
join
on
here.
The
most
difficult
part
is
they.
They
don't
think
they're
going
to
get
everything
in
the
executive
order,
because
everybody's
got
their
own
little
twists
and
turns
inside
their
zoning
regulations
to
to
make
this
happen.
F
Yes,
there
we
are
yeah
and
the
mayor's
sitting
here.
I
don't
think
he
was
expected
to
speak,
but
he
just
wanted
to
be
here
in
support
of
the
commission
and
and
anything
that
you
want
to
ask
about
this.
This
particular
piece
trying
to
trying
to
get
these
businesses
open
on
may
20th.
We've
had
numerous
calls
all
the
way
since
last
friday,
when
it
just
kind
of
broke
news
that
we
were
gonna,
that
they
were
gonna,
try
to
do
something
of
this
of
this
magnitude,
and
we
just.
F
I
just
feel
that
we
need
to
amend
our
zoning
regulations
as
as
as
liberal
as
possible
at
this
point
for
the
existing
businesses.
I'm
not
asking
for
a
new
business
to
come
in
here
and
and
get
all
these
rules.
These
are
for
existing
businesses,
the
mayor
and
I
went
and
visited
like
two
or
three
businesses.
Last
friday.
J
Leclair
from
berkshire
moses,
mr
smith,
is
correct.
The
governor
has
in
some
form
before
him
another
executive
order.
As
you
know,
he's
issued
some
30
odd
executive
orders.
Now
one
of
them
that
I
looked
at
in
draft
middle
of
last
week
had
to
do
with
restaurants
and
outdoor
dining
specifically
at
restaurants.
J
J
Sorry
there's
a
motion.
Thank
you
before
you
this
evening
that
I
believe
someone
will
make
or
could
make
for
the
city
planner
authorizing
the
city,
planner
or
zoning
official
to
approve
site
plan
modifications
pursuant
to
the
regs
or
executive
orders,
to
allow
restaurants,
eating
establishments
and
what
you
call
micro,
brewery,
distillery
wineries
under
your
regs
to
have
outdoor
dining
during
this
time
of
public
health.
A
Emergency
well,
this
is
paul.
Welcome.
Thank
you
both
for
your
comments.
So
how
would
that
I
mean
how
we
envisioned
that
process
working
there?
An
establishment
would
come
to
the
to
the
city
planning
zoning
official.
Would
they
have
to
make
an
application,
or
I
mean
what
would
the?
How
would
that
help
the
process
work
out
at
all.
J
The
state
had
them
under
the
executive
order,
allow
them
to
go
out
onto
sidewalks.
I
think
four
feet
out
or
still
providing
four
feet
of
sidewalks
that
allow
them
to
use
side,
normal
setbacks,
even
a
joining
commercial
property
if
it
was
in
the
same
zone,
even
parking
spaces
other
than
handicapped
spaces,
to
try
to
help
the
businesses
out.
So
I
think
that.
J
Official
or
the
city
planner
would
have
to
follow
the
executive
order
once
it
is
issued.
I
expect
it
to
be,
and
if
not,
I
think
we
should
give
him
some
power
that
you
know.
The
idea
is
to
give
him
some
power
to
make
site
plan
modifications.
As
long
as
the
public
health
emergency
is
existing
to
allow
outdoor
dining
to
businesses
that
traditionally
have
not
applied
for
outdoor
dining.
F
I
think
that's
a
great
question.
They
will
also
be
on
that
meeting
tomorrow
that
the
town
has
set
up
for
us
and
the
200
restaurants
in
the
town
of
groton
mystic
area,
the
the
10
and
10
restaurants
we
have
in
the
city.
They
are
trying
to
react
on
this,
just
as
fast
they've
kind
of
made
up
a
draft.
It's
only
a
draft
right
now
check
off
list
because
they
don't
have
an
executive
order
to
to
go
out
with
it
yet.
F
But
when
I
was
talking
with
steve
mansfield
when
the
town-
and
I
were
talking
with
steve
mansfield
john
reiner
in
particular
this
this
afternoon
on
a
conference
call
steve
mansfield
was
the
director
of
legend.
It
was
was
going
to
be
as
receptive
to
if
he
even
talked
about
listen.
If
someone
wants
to
hold
cook
outside,
they
are
going
to
be
very
lenient
about
how
they
can
cook
outside
such
as
a
pig
roast
right.
F
Let's
say
tom
drazer
down
at
our
light,
wants
to
have
a
pig
roast
out
there
with
you
know,
serving
of
of
his
taste
for
his
tap
room
outside
he
they're
gonna.
Let
that
happen
at
this
time.
Only
for
this
period
and
all
these
permits,
I
think
they
were
going
to
go
to
november
1st
of
2020
they
weren't
going
any
further
at
that
point.
Cold
weather
kicks
in
you
know
all
the
other
items
that
hamper
you
from
actually
going
outside
and
doing
that.
A
F
Not
not
each
one,
so
if
it's
dining
only
they're
going
to
let
the
locals
take
care
of
the
dining.
Only
from
that
perspective,
it's
truly
about
the
food
service
and
the
hand
washing
stations
once
those
established
with
them.
You
know
with
a
note
saying
what
they're
going
to
do
and
where
it's
going
to
be
done.
That's
that's
as
far
as
they
need
to
go.
Unless
one
of
the
items
that
we're
all
trying
to
figure
out
is
who's
going
to
be
the
enforcing
side
of
this,
is
it
going
to
be
a
legend?
F
We,
the
the
mayor
and
I
and
others
have
said
the
police
chief,
had
sat
down
and
talked
to
our
sidewalks.
Just
don't
give
us
the
space
to
do
that
in
most
locations,
the
only
sidewalk
sort
of
sidewalk
that
will
give
us
that
kind
of
opportunity
is
40
thieves
prior
to
the
planting
area.
That's
over
there
there's
about.
F
I
don't
know:
10
10
15
feet
of
space
between
the
building
and
the
planting
area
that
they
can
manipulate
some,
what
they
call
barrels
they
like
to
put
barrels
out
there
to
to
have
people
stand,
and
you
know,
have
small
pieces
of
pizza
or
something
with
their
with
their
beverage
mayor.
Do
you
have
any
words
of
support
to
this
or
participation.
K
K
F
And-
and
we
also
were
trying
to
be
very
upfront
with
you
before
this
actually
happened,
so
you
didn't
drive
by
go
hey.
How
did
that
tent?
How
did
how
did
the
parking
places
get
taken
over?
Who
who
approved
that
we
didn't
see
this?
We
are
trying
to
do
this
up
front
with
this
motion
and
not
just
you
know,
say:
well,
it's
an
executive
order
and
we've
got
to
live
with
it.
This
is
this
is
a
community
and
we
all
have
to
live
together
and
that's
that's
even
more
important.
L
Or
comments
from
commissioners,
mr
chair,
andre
munger,
here,
yes,
carlton,
has
there
been
any
consideration
to
utilizing
existing
existing
surface
parking
or
streets
to
accommodate
the
outdoor
dining
for
those
restaurants?
That
may
not
have
you
know
some
frontage
or
sidewalk
that
can
you
know
for
for
seating.
F
F
A
D
F
I
haven't
seen
anything
about
food
trucks
from
the
governor's
office.
I
don't
think
any
of
us
have.
The
the
ones
that
are
parked
up
by
eb
have
are
basically
under
a
vendor's
license,
so
they
get
to
park
there.
There
are
certain
areas
that
you
know
the
vendors
are
allowed
in
the
city
by
a
city
permit
right
by
the
city
police
permit.
F
K
A
A
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
that
I
move,
that
the
city,
planner
and
or
zoning
official
approved
site
plan
modifications
still
into
the
zoning
regulations
and
or
executive
orders
to
allow
restaurants,
eating
establishments
and
micro
brewery
distributed
distillery
wineries
to
have
outdoor
dieting
during
this
time
of
public
health.
Emergency.
L
F
F
Retail
retail
sale
of
liquor,
I
was
trying
to
figure
think
of
the
right
words
that
were
retail
sale
of
liquor
was
not
in
that
zone.
I
think
there's
no
action
by
your
committee,
but
I
think
if
people
tell
you,
if
you
hear
this-
and
you
know
the
staff
tells
you
about
it
a
few
times,
maybe
the
next
time
the
zoning
regulations
come
up,
you
would
think
about
adding
that
or
not
maybe
you'd
still
dismiss
it
because
of
whatever
the
reason
was.
E
L
F
Was
there,
but
now
they've
changed
over
a
five
corner
district,
because
you
would
because
the
plan
of
conservation
development
had
seen
a
much
larger
need
in
that
area
to
attract
a
larger
housing
such
as
what
there's
floating
zones
coming
at
you
and
a
tax
amendment
you've
seen
they
had
seen
other
things
that
they
would
like
to
to
happen
there
so,
but
they
didn't
see,
package
stores
or
retail
sale
of
liquor.
I
won't
call
them
continue
to
call
in
package
doors
I'll,
try
not
to.
A
A
F
Well,
that's
what
that's
with
their
letters,
I've
any
any
correspondence
with
letters
I
have
passed
on
or
the
mayor's
office
has
passed
on
as
as
we
get
them.
I
think
the
last
one
was
probably
a
month
ago,
maybe
three
weeks
ago,
yeah
I'm
looking
at
the
mayor
and
the
mayor's
admin
and
they're
saying
the
same
time
frame.
I
am
on
there.
Yes,
that's
what
they
said,
they're
still
looking
for
february
2023,
even
though
we
know
they're
glad
they're
lagging
behind.
F
I
you
do
see
the
two
new,
not
the
two
they're,
not
new,
but
the
blue
rigs
are
back
for
the
what
in
water,
so
they
came
off
the
state
pier
and
got
repaired
and
they're
back
over
at
the
at
the
water
site,
doing
doing
water,
water,
core,
boring
out
there
so
they're
going
back
at
it.
We
haven't
had
any
newer
complaints.