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From YouTube: Groton Athletic Fields Task Force 6/11/20
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Athletic Fields Task Force June 11, 2020. To view the agenda click on the link below.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/meeting/details/997
A
B
A
C
C
C
A
Yeah
we've
got
several
members
of
the
public
here,
I
that
were
invited
for
particular
reasons:
we've
got
Michael
Luthi
from
La
Crosse
Heather
from
football
John
from
football
and
I
believe
thats
it.
I
also
did
invite
a
couple
of
gentlemen
from
the
cricket
community,
but
I
don't
see
either
one
of
them
on
on
the
thing
or
so
I
guess
we
will
be
discussing
the
multi-purpose
fields
but
I
guess
if
any
of
them
have
comments
now,
that's
that's
fine
or
they
can
wait
until
we
get
to
the
discussion
item.
Okay,.
C
Fine
thanks.
So
next
is
our
new
business
and
tonight
today
our
business
is
the
review
of
the
multi-purpose
fields
in
the
town.
What
I
would
do
is
let
the
discussion
start
with
Chad
with
the
history
of
what
he
has
brought
and
his
update
from
May
when
he
went
back
to
look
at
things
so
Chad.
If
you
would
start,
there
would
be
great.
B
The
quick
summary
is
basically,
we
did
go
back.
We
updated
everything
we
went
through
the
rest
of
the
numbers
tallied
some
additional
stuff
in
there
and
the
short
of
it
is
is,
is
by
the
assessment
numbers
when
you
look
at
need
and
basically
the
demand
what
we
have
as
far
as
the
supply
goes
right
now
to
meet
the
demand.
Our
assessment
numbers
show
that
we
need
three
full-size
athletic
fields
that
hasn't
changed
dramatically.
B
You
know
it's
gone
up
and
down
by
a
percentage
basis
or
you
know,
half
of
a
field.
Basically,
when
you
look
at
the
numbers
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
depending
on
fields
coming
online,
the
fields
going
offline.
So
if
I
remember
correctly,
it's
writing
like
two
point.
Eight
six
or
something
like
that
is
the
number
of
quote-unquote
fields
we
need
to
meet
the
current
demand,
with
the
current
amount
of
both
youth
and
adults
and
high
school
sports
all
using
the
fields
at
one
time.
A
So
Chad
you
for
a
point
of
clarification.
We've
got
a
number
of
people
from
the
community
here,
so
in
just
brief
terms,
just
to
maybe
bring
them
up
to
speed
in
you
know
you,
you
kind
of
used
a
lot
of
jargon
there.
That
I
think
the
members
of
this
task
force
might
might
understand,
but
some
of
our
guests
might
not
fully
understand
what
what
you
just
said
sure.
B
B
We,
then
you
know,
pulled
all
the
different
sports
and
athletic
groups,
adult
high
school
youth,
everybody
and
came
up
with
both
the
demand
for
how
many
hours
we
need
for
each
field
type
both.
How
much
do
we
need
and
how
much
do
we
have
available,
and
then
we
kind
of
just
go
through
a
spreadsheet
on
that
we've
been
able
to
keep
updating
it
with
the
2020
plan,
with
the
school's
coming
online.
What
fields
are
going
away?
What
fields
are
coming
back
online?
B
B
How
much
rest
is
the
field
need
in
order
to
recover
and
not
trample
if
it's
natural
grass,
you
know
for
the
next
use
and
then
and
then
also
programs,
you
know,
basically
from
date,
you
know
when
school
ends
till
dark
is
how
we
program
a
field
also.
So
that's
the
other
thing
I
put
out
there,
because
it's
not
always
perfect.
When
we
do
our
numbers,
you
know
for
high
school.
They
obviously
want
the
fields
available
for
every
team
right
after
school.
E
B
I'm
talking,
we
need
three
full-size
multi-use
fields,
but
that's
not
really
the
football
itself.
Football
is
a
particular
sport
right
now
by
the
hours
and
the
numbers.
The
the
need,
in
theory
is
met
by
the
numbers
by
the
fields
that
we
have
chronic
plains
and
at
the
high
school
and
what
they
use
at
Claude
Chester.
B
B
A
There
are
three
full
size
fields
at
Pequannock,
Plains,
Park,
there's
another
full
size
field
at
the
Groton
community
center.
There
are,
you
know
the
new
artificial
surface
field
at
the
school
was
included
in
this
count,
we
are
losing
a
multi-purpose
field
at
the
cutler
school,
but
we're
kind
of
getting
one
back
and
same
thing
out
at
the
Westside
school
and
those
kinds
of
things.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
adjustments
there
and
and
part
of
the
the
factoring
that
Chad
does
just
a
reminder
for
everybody
and
and
maybe
the
first
time.
A
Some
of
you
have
heard
this.
Some
of
these
fields
are
under
the
control
of
Board
of
Ed,
so
that
that
reduces
the
amount
of
time
that
the
community
has
use
of
those
fields.
So
you
know
that
even
though
we're
getting
in
artificials
excuse
me
artificial
surface
feel
at
the
middle
school,
which
is
right
behind
mr.
Waite
left
there
it's
got
a
great
picture
of
it.
We
will
have
limited
use
of
that
because
it's
going
to
be.
You
know
four
particular
Board
of
Ed
activities
and
things
like
that.
A
F
A
Exercise
that
we're
going
through
here
today
is
to
kind
of
give
it
the
smell
test,
or
the
gut
check,
or
whatever
you
want
to
say,
is-
is
three
fields.
Additionally?
Is
that
going
to
serve
the
needs
of
lacrosse
and
field
hockey
and
soccer
and
cricket
or
anybody
else
who
might
use
multi-purpose
fields
in
the
town?
That's
the
that's.
A
The
you
know
the
kind
of
the
maybe
the
more
subjective
or
anecdotal
kind
of
exercise
we're
going
through
here,
because
you
know
the
data
tells
us
one
thing
and
we
need
to
kind
of
just
confirm
that
or
change
those
numbers
in
some
way
to
to
account
for
things
that
maybe
the
data
just
didn't
you
know
account
for
so
that's
so
for
those
of
you
who
are
here
at
this
meeting,
the
first
for
the
first
time.
That's
that's
exactly
why
you're
invited
here.
You
know
just
to
kind
of
give
us
your
feedback
on
that.
A
B
However,
when
we
factor
in
both
use
and
the
condition
right
now,
it's
about
it
equals
out
to
about
an
existing
fields
of
four
point
three
fields,
because
a
lot
of
those
fields
are
in
pretty
bad
condition.
You
know
one
of
the
fields,
for
example,
that
we
count
is
the
oral
school
property.
You
know
and
that's
probably
going
away.
We
still
have
it
counted.
It
doesn't
count
very
much
because
it's
you
know
it's
got
a
condition:
assessment
of
a
half
of
a
field
and
it's
got
a
use
assessment
of
a
little
less
than
that.
B
I
H
H
Would
feel
that
was
used
many
years
now,
it's
very
back
for
sheet.
I
know
the
girls
practice
out
our
boys
away
practice
on
the
baseball
field,
so
that
certainty
deteriorate
that
outfield
wanna,
clean,
Rosetta
chariot
out
of
it,
grew
out
but
chronically
primary,
a
primarily
she
gained
field
instead
of
necessarily
practice.
So
just
curious.
B
Our
assessment
did
not
distinguish
between
practice
field
or
a
game
field,
so
like
the
high
school,
where
you
know
we
very
limit
what
happens
on
that?
High
school
football
field,
though
essentially
just
games
and
even
limited
games
at
that
that
does
not
get
factored
in.
It
gets
counted
as
a
full-size
football
field
that
is
available
for
use,
Oh.
C
B
Don't
that
didn't
get
discounted
in
a
use
perspective,
even
though
in
reality
it's
only
really
used
for
games.
So
so
that's
where
the
gut
check
it
for
this,
as
Jeremy
alluded
to
you
know,
that's
the
point
of
this
to
secure
and
say
hey
by
the
numbers,
very
analytically.
We
think
we
need.
You
know
three
fields
that
kind
of
meet
the
demand.
Everybody
here
uses
the
fields
quite
a
bit,
and
so
that's
the
kind
of
what
the
ideas
this
does.
B
A
So
I
want
to
just
stop
there.
Frank
do
you
have
the
panelists
listed
on
your
screen?
I
do
on
the
right?
Okay.
So
if
you
look
there,
do
you
see
that
counselor
as
a
period
as
a
hand
up
and
and
it's
going
to
pay
attention
to
people
who
are
indicating
an
interest
speaking
so
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
I
will
do
that.
Yeah.
C
So
my
question-
chad
is
so
if
these
fields
that
we
have
now
existing,
let's
say,
were
to
have
lights,
have
synthetic
whatever
the
increases
might
be.
That
would
also
increase
they're
much
like
we
had
spoken
other
fields.
It
increased
their
usage,
their
time
that
we
can
use
them.
Obviously,
the
variety
of
things
we
can
use
so
it
it
might
lessen
the
amount
of
fields
vert,
but
obviously
there'd,
be
a
cost
associated
with
upgrading
to
that
and.
B
That
was
something
we
had
looked
at
for
the
department
now,
probably
two
or
three
years
ago,
when
we
kind
of
said
okay,
if
we
we
spend
the
money
to
just
upgrade
the
fields
we
have.
You
know
how
much
does
that
meet
our
need
and,
and
obviously
we
wouldn't
upgrade
every
single
field
across
town,
but
we
kind
of
looked
at
the
stuff
at
fitch,
middle
and
one
or
two
others
I
think
it
might
have
been
an
even
claude
chester.
B
You
know
trying
to
get
a
couple,
other
fields
up
and
and
the
impact
wasn't
as
significant
as
we
had
hoped.
You
know,
and
we
can
run
the
numbers
again.
But
yes,
if
we
were
to
take
obviously
say
the
fish
middle
and
turn
that
into
a
synthetic
turf
field,
then
that
would
have
a
pretty
dramatic
impact,
but
right
now
we
also
know
that
pitch
middle
is
programmed
pretty
heavily,
even
though
it's
not
a
very
good
field
and
not
very
good
condition
and
needs
a
lot
of
work.
B
You
know
it's,
it's
programmed
to
the
pretty
much
the
fullest
extent.
So
so,
if
we
go
and
put
synthetic
turf
out
there,
it
would
allow
it
to
be
programmed
a
little
later
into
the
evening.
It
allows
to
have
bigger
events
run
on
it
because
the
turf
doesn't
get
destroyed,
but
it
might
not
actually
solve
the
need
that
much
because
it's
currently
being
used
more
than
it
should
be
anyways
right,
I
mean
kind
of
the
story.
B
There
is
that
we
need
three
fields
just
to
meet
the
demand,
but
the
reality
is,
is
all
those
uses
were
cramming
them
in
somewhere
we're
either
putting
more
people
on
the
field
than
we
should
which
is
causing.
You
know,
maintenance
costs
to
go
up
because
we're
having
we're
just
trampling
the
grass
or
we're
just
not
even
doing
the
maintenance.
You
know
like
I'd,
say
Claude
Chester
that
that
dirt
out
there
was
like
a
brick.
You
know
the
fact
that
we
let
kids
play
out
there
is
pretty
atrocious
and
it's.
B
K
Don't
call
me
ed,
I'm
Ted,
but
Ted
Keller
I'm,
the
new
principal
at
the
high
school
god.
No,
no,
no
worries!
You
know
and
I'm
pretty
new
to
this
conversation,
so
primarily
I
just
wanted
to
listen
to
what
people
had
to
say,
and
you
know,
but
I
have
to
say
that
one
of
the
things
I've
been
hearing
a
lot
about
since
coming
to
Fitch
has
been
you
know
the
football
field
and
the
condition
of
the
football
field
in
the
use
of
the
football
field,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
you
know.
K
Obviously
you
know
I'm
a
little
bit
selfish
and
I'm,
looking
at
the
high
school,
primarily
and
but
I
know
that,
based
upon
what
I
saw,
especially
in
the
fall,
obviously
I
didn't
get
a
lot
of
the
spring
sports
field.
Yet
was
that
our
students
are
going
out
and
you
know
going
off
campus
a
lot
for
their
practices
for
their
games,
and
you
know
a
wondering
what
a
you
know.
We
talked
about
little
bit
about
the
field
upgrades.
A
lot
of
people
have
talked
to
me
about
getting
a
turf
field
at
the
high
school.
K
If
we
had
a
turf
field
at
a
multi-user
field,
not
just
football
but
allowing
for
soccer
lacrosse,
both
boys
and
girls
field
hockey,
you
have
all
the
lines
on
it.
That
then
takes
us
off
of
your
fields
at
the
very
least
for
games,
but
a
lot
for
practices
as
well.
How
does
that
help
you,
in
terms
of
increasing
your
use
of
the
fields
for
the
kids
secondary
to
that?
Also,
is
you
know
the
kids
being
more
excited
about
playing
on
a
field
like
that?
You
know
so
that
you
can't
have
youth
football
games
out
there.
K
You
can't
have
youth
soccer
games
out
there
and
you're
not
overusing
the
field
overall,
so
you
know
that's
that's
one
thing
that
I
had
you
know
what
Mark
certainly
talked
to
me
a
little
bit
about
it.
I've
heard
a
lot
from
the
the
community
as
well
I'm,
just
wondering
how
that
would
work
with
the
with
the
usage
numbers
sure.
A
Ted
I
think
I
can
take
a
swing
at
that
one.
The
first
thing
is
that
the
the
charge
of
this
task
force
is
is
to
come
up
with
a
comprehensive
plan
that
that
serves
both
school
needs
and
community
needs.
So
you
know
when
we
finish
our
work
here.
We
expect
to
have
an
answer
for
both
of
those
questions.
Gratin
is
a
bit
unique
and
we
spent
some
time
discussing
how
unique
gratin
is
in
these
shared
facilities,
but
yeah.
A
Our
the
end
goal
here
is
to
have
something
that
works
for
everybody
in
yes,
and
our
next
meeting,
in
fact,
is,
is
to
speak
just
strictly
about
high
school
fields,
so
we've
started
this
process
and
in
talking
about
baseball,
softball
fields
around
town
tonight,
we're
talking
about
multi-purpose
fields
and
the
next
discussion
we're
going
to
have
is
focused
next
week.
In
fact,
on,
the
18th
is,
is,
is
strictly
on
high
school
needs,
so
we're
going
through
this
kind
of
systematically
in
a
way
that
we
should
come
up
with
an
answer
that
yes
serves.
A
A
G
Please
don't
think
I
don't
think
I
should
dominate
this
meaning
as
a
counselor.
I
know
that
whatever
we
decide
at
this
at
the
taskforce
level,
it's
going
to
have
to
come
to
the
counselor
forefront
to
the
counselor
for
funding.
It
would
be
very
helpful
to
know,
in
addition
to
the
demand
numbers
with
the
number
of
fields
we
need
by
demand
is
to
know
who's
demanding.
We
need
to
know
what
leagues
are
in
ten.
G
So
those
are
things
that
are
going
to
come
up
for
discussion
as
we
just
we're
talking
about
dollars
and
actually
by
the
the
fields
or
to
to
spend
to
upgrade
the
fields
whatever
and
I.
Think
we
have
to
get
that
information
together
and
also
the
age
range
of
the
people
on
the
teams.
I
think
you
know
you
can
look
to
different
utilizations
of
the
fields
for
older
people,
I
mean
you
can
look
for
later
game
times.
G
I
understand
from
the
last
meeting
we
had
that
mothers
don't
like
to
have
their
children
coming
a
moment
late,
but
certainly
some
of
the
the
young
adults
can
make
it
home
later
than
the
children,
so
the
utilization
of
the
fields.
You
might
be
something
we
can
look
at
from
that
point
of
view,
but
ultimately
it's
going
to
require
I,
think
a
lot
of
money
to
develop
the
fields
that
we
want
to
get
and
we're
gonna
have
to
weigh.
G
You
know
the
values
in
spending
that
money
so
somehow
or
other
I
think
we
have
to
get
together.
The
numbers
on
the
number
of
leaks,
the
number
of
teams
in
each
league,
the
number
of
players
in
each
team,
the
question
of
whether
or
not
everybody
can
play
and
the
issue
of
the
age
of
the
people
who
would
play.
B
I'll
jump
in
there
real,
quick
counselors
the
period
we
have
that,
for
the
most
part,
I
shouldn't
say
we
have
it
for
the
most
part,
the
spreadsheet
that
we
have.
It
has
every
single
team
of
every
single
league,
every
single
kid
male
female
age,
everything
in
this
red
sheet.
So
we
you
know,
we
counted.
B
B
It
to
me
absolutely
yep
the
only
one
I
can't
really
answer
great
you
said
you
know:
is
it
open
to
all
kids
and
Groton
and
from
from
my
knowledge,
I
believe
all
of
them
are
the
only
ones
and
I
can't
be
a
hundred
percent
on
our
the
the
two
baseball
leagues
that
we
talked
about
last
meeting
I
think
it's
open
to
all
kids
in
the
town,
and
we
did
ask
them
the
question
when
they
are
here
that
they
do
have
a
couple
players
that
come
from
stones
and
I.
Think
on
one
of
the
teams.
B
There's
the
one
travel
league
that
takes
people
from
all
over.
We
did
not
count
their
numbers.
You
know
it's
somebody,
that's
a
true
recruiting,
kids
from
all
over
those
aren't
included
in
our
numbers,
but
the
two
baseball
travel
teams,
I
believe
they're
open
to
all
of
a
Groton
residence
I,
don't
think
they
have
cuts,
but
that
would
be
a
question
we
can
ask
for
them.
You
know:
do
they
do
they.
J
So
basically
they're
kind
of
like
hand-picked
those
teams
for
the
most
part,
those
baseball
teams.
You
know
and
and
I
wouldn't
say
that
all
those
kids
are
from
Groton
I
would
say
that
they're
they're
from
you
know,
I'm
they're,
from
a
variety
of
different
towns.
I
think
you
know
whether
it's
some
a
slime
Stonington.
G
J
The
the
two
or
two
or
three
AAU
teams,
I
know
we
just
got
a
request
for
another
AAU
team
to
use
the
high
school
facility
as
well.
So
that
would
be
a
now,
a
third
team
that
has
not
used
it
in
the
past,
but
I
think
due
to
the
schoolers
not
having
a
program
this
year.
You
know
I,
think
it
opened
a
door
in
a
sense
to
allow
possibly
another
team
to
use
that
facility,
but
yeah
to
answer
your
question:
it's
not
primarily
Groton
kids,
it's
or
mystic
kids.
B
Those
are
the
two
but
now
possibly
three
travel
baseball
teams
that
are
a
little
bit
more
selective,
all
the
other
programs
that
we
counted
in
this
and
some
level.
Those
are
that's
why
we
hadn't
counted
them
in
our
initial
survey
of
people,
because
it
wasn't,
according
quote
just
a
town
team.
You
know
Groton
mr.
Clark
Ross
were
open
to
every
single.
You
know
anybody
that
wants
to
play
can
play
and
we
have
scholarships
if
you
can't
afford
it.
So
so
you
can
be
there
and
so
a
lot
of
times.
B
If
it's
a
true
what
we
consider
a
true
travel
team,
which
is
one
that
recruits
kids
and
builds
the
team,
and
you
have
to
pay
a
little
bit
more
to
play
and
you're
traveling
far
distances
a
lot
of
times.
We
don't
count
those
in
on
a
town
need
because
that's
a
little
bit
more
of
a
selective,
it's
not
just
a
town.
You
know
facility
you're
being
used
by
open
to
the
whole
town,
so
so
I
think
that's
a
question
that
we
probably
want
to
discuss
as
a
committee.
B
You
know
about
baseball
in
the
future
as
we
further
discuss
the
need
of
baseball.
You
know
it
went
from
one
field
to
three
fields
when
we
tallied
in
the
travel
teams,
and
so
that
might
be
the
discussion
to
have
in
the
future
as
to
how
much
you
know
input,
do
we
left
the
travel
teams
have
as
far
as
the
multi-use
go,
none
of
the
numbers
that
we
have.
You
know
in
there
we're
from
a
travel
team
perspective,
it's
all
youth
sports
open
to
everybody
in
the
public
or
it's
some
of
the
adult
leagues.
B
J
So
you
know
we're
talking
about
multi-use
fields,
you
know.
Are
we
looking
at
also
and
I
know
we
have
this
info,
but
you
know
by
timeframe
as
well.
You
know
because
I
think
you
know
like
in
the
fall
season.
For
example,
you
know
where
you
have
a
youth,
football
will
say
with
you
know
three
or
four
teams.
You
have
youth
soccer
with
a
couple
different
teams.
You
know
all
needing.
You
know
within
high
school
sports
as
well,
that
you
know
we
have
their
middle
school
sports.
So
is
I.
J
Guess
the
number
seven
right,
based
on
the
four
that
we
have
now
and
then
the
need
for
three
I
guess
the
question
would
be
based
on
everything
that
we
have
going
on
during
that
time
period.
You
know,
let's
just
say
from
5
o'clock
on,
do
we
fulfill
those
needs
right
isn't?
Is
that
kind
of
what
we're
looking
at.
B
Yeah,
that's
a
that's
all,
so
the
question
is
to
you
know
again
from
a
numbers
perspective,
analytically.
We
look
at
it
from
basically
3:30
until
dark,
right,
right
and
and
so
we
we
program
every
hour
out
even
and
doesn't
take
into
account
for
the
fact
that
there's
gonna
be
the
majority
want
to
use
the
fields
from
really
3
o'clock
to
6
or
7.
B
You
know
and
then
typically
the
adult
leaves
get.
You
know
if
there's
a
higher
demand
that
can
be
met.
The
adult
leagues
get
pushed
back
later
and
later.
If
you
had
a
field,
that's
multi-use
or
excuse
me
synthetic
turf
and
you
add
lights.
Then
obviously,
we
see
those
fields
with
lights
and
synthetic
turf,
getting
program
till
close
to
midnight,
because
the
demand
is
there.
The
adult
leagues
will
come
in
and
fill
it.
It's
just
that
it's
not
even
available
so
they're,
not
even
asking
at
this
point
so.
J
Wait
and
I
agree,
I
think
the
key
to
it.
You
know
it
is
lightson
in
synthetic
turf,
I
think
if
that's
factored
into
it.
You
know
as
part
of
the
three
additional
fields.
I
think
that
that's
kind
of
that
makes
a
lot
more
sense
and
based
on
what
I've
been
dealing
with,
and
you
know
it
allows
us
I-
think
3
would
be
ok
because
we'd
have
you
know,
kind
of
a
little
more
time
on
it.
J
You
know,
let's
just
say,
and
just
speaking
with
a
high
school,
not
to
get
off
track,
but
you
know
if
we
add
one,
maybe
two
fields
we
get
through
all
our
stuff
within
that
time
period
you
know
synthetic
lit
so
whether
that's
games
and
practices,
you
know,
and
that
would
free
up
what
kind
of
like
what
Ted
was
saying.
You
know
other
facilities
for
other
other
programs.
J
L
B
Close
yeah
we're
building
three
fields
for
Mitchell
right
now:
a
full-size
all
synthetic
of
a
full-size
baseball,
full-size
softball
and
the
full-size
multi-use
and
all
three
together
just
over.
You
know
three
million,
almost
three
and
a
half
when
you
factor
in
some
of
the
amenities,
but
I
will
know
that's
without
lights.
So.
B
F
J
B
Yeah,
they
don't
worry,
I'd,
say
a
safe,
just
ballpark
number
without
any
designs,
without
any
sight
issues
you
know
a
million
to
a
million
and
a
half
a
field
is
a
round
number
to
guess
that
and
right
now,
what
we're
seeing
is
the
synthetic
turf
actually
isn't
too
much
more
than
natural
turf
cuz
the
synthetic
prices
have
come
down
enough.
You
know
we
bit
back
when
Pequannock
plains
was
built.
That
was,
you
know.
B
L
Four
points
of
discussion,
I
think
in
the
future
two
things
one
is
for
Pequannock.
Theoretically,
we
can't
do
light
because
of
a
promise
that
was
made
councils
before
is
that
kind
of
out
there?
But
up
for
discussion,
that's
number
one
and
number
two
would
be
do
we
have
any
information
or
background
on
the
safety
of
the
synthetic
fields?
I
know
that
was
a
concern
with
regards
to
what
what
kind
of
you
know
what
was
used
as
a
synthetic
and
and
whether
that
can
cause
some
issues
really
so.
A
Bruce,
let
me
jump
in
there
and
kind
of
respond
to
that
since
I've
been
at
the
town
of
Groton
for
about
twenty
years,
which
I
showed
up
right
after
Pequannock
plains
open
and
since
that
time,
I
have
heard
a
lot
of
people
say
there
are
no
lights
allowed
at
Pequannock.
Plains
part
I
yet
in
20
years
to
put
my
hands
on
any
kind
of
a
document
that
said
that
put
it
in
writing
or
anything
I.
A
Don't
you
know
it
may
have
been
something
that
was
said
to
to
folks,
but
it
certainly
isn't
in
any
of
the
documentation
that
I
have
seen
anywhere
in
our
office
or
anywhere
in
researching
around
the
town.
So
you
know
whether
the
council
or
somebody
would
you
know,
choose
to
you
know,
put
lights
down
there
I
think
that's
it's
an
open
question
I,
at
least
in
my
mind,
I
I
haven't
heard
anything
definitively.
That
says
you
can
and.
L
A
There
there
are
different
types
of
synthetic
turf
and
the
most
of
them
use
kind
of
a
similar
material.
For
the
you
know,
the
blades
of
grass,
if
you
will
tech
stuff,
but
the
infill
is,
is
kind
of
the
stuff.
That
is
tends
to
be
a
more
concern.
Sometimes
people
put
in
crumb
rubber,
you
know
so
it's
it's
several
inches
thick
of
crumb,
rubber
kind
of
holding
these
little
blades
of
grass
up
and
I
believe
the
the
one
that
they're
doing
at
the
middle
school
now
has
some
type
of
a
natural
infill.
A
That
is,
you
know,
potentially
less
has
less
chemicals
or
toxic.
You
know
properties,
then
then
crumb
rubber,
so
yeah
there
are
different
materials
that
you
can
use
for
until
they
and
and
I
don't
know,
Chad,
maybe
you're
the
guy.
The
expert
on
what
you
know.
What
the
relative
you
know,
likability
of
them
in
terms
of
performance
or
safety,
is
but
yeah.
There
are
differences
in
those
yeah.
B
It
comes
down
to
the
for
the
most
part
Connecticut
about
a
year
ago,
kind
of
really
got
up
in
arms
about
the
the
crumb
rubber,
the
rubber
infill.
There
was
a
lot
of
worry
about
carcinogens
coming
out
of
it
that,
for
the
most
part,
all
the
the
studies
that
we've
seen
in
all
the
studies
that
actually
Connecticut
Department
of
Health
has
on
file
all
show
that
it's
safe,
that
there's
that
there's
no
adverse
risk.
B
However,
that
doesn't
stop
people
from
still
fearing
in
a
little
bit,
and
so
what
what
I
believe
is
going
in
at
the
new
middle
school
site
is
a
sand.
Infill,
that's
the
natural
is,
if
you
don't
do
to
crumb
rubber,
you
do
sand
a
lot
of
the
ones
we're
doing.
We
do
a
little
bit
of
a
blend
of
both
it's
a
little
bit
of
crumb
plus
a
little
bit
of
sand,
and
then
you
get
the
right
amount
of
fluff
and
the
right
amount
of
give
in
the
turf
and
and
so
cuz
sand.
B
If
you
do
just
seen,
it
can
be
a
pretty
hard
surface
to
so
you
have
to
sometimes
put
a
pad
underneath
of
the
sand
to
get
the
right
absorption.
But
yes,
right
now,
technically
everything
is
deemed
safe,
but
there
is
some
concern
over
the
crumb
rubber.
But
if
you
go,
if
you
admit
the
crumb
rubber,
it
does
make
the
price
go
up
quite
a
bit.
It's
it's
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
more
for
just
if
you
do
with
the
pad
and
the
sand
infill
over
the
crumb
rubber.
So.
L
That
whatever
may
be,
we
can
also
frank.
Add
that
to
the
like,
then
look
the
report
that
we
give.
You
know
what
we,
if
we're
gonna
go
it
you
know,
there's
a
certain
type
of
field.
We
recommend
and
do
a
little
you
know,
I
guess,
research
or
you
know,
tape
with
Chad,
saying
and
kind
of
and
kind
of
you
know
make
a
recommendation
in
the
report
with
regards
to
that
too.
So.
A
Just
to
just
to
maybe
bring
everybody
up
to
speed
here
to
on
the
kind
of
the
process
that
we're
going
through
right
now
again
we're
trying
to
kind
of
just
determine
the
number
of
fields
that
we
need
as
we
move
forward
after
we
kind
of
determined
that
number
of
fields
we
need,
then
we
need
to
start
just
as
Bruce
is
suggesting
that
we
need
to
kind
of
look
at
alternatives.
Where
can
we
put
fields?
You
know
which
which
locations
can
have
lights?
Which
ones
can't
have
lights?
A
So
if
everything
that
you're
saying
Bruce
from
lights
up
aquatic
planes
to
what
type
of
material
we
were
to
command
on
the
inside
of
those
I,
think
that's
that's
the
second
step
of
this.
Once
we
determine
how
many
fields
we
need,
then
we
we
go
for
how
many
are
going
to
be
natural.
How
many
gonna
be
synthetic?
How
many
can
you
light
it?
What
kind
of
infill
all
those
kinds
of
details
are
kind
of
in
the
second
step
of
the
process?
So
thank
you
for
actually
thinking
ahead
so.
C
C
B
Thanks
so
we
actually
in
in
the
case
of
the
new
middle
school,
we
counted
it
as
a
condition
of
one,
because
it's
going
to
be
a
brand-new,
perfect
field
and
then
the
use
assessment
we
put
it
in
a
one-and-a-half
right.
So
normally,
a
perfect
field
that
you
have
full
use
is
a
total
one
thermally,
one
and
below
a
synthetic
use.
Synthetic
field
gets
a
rating
of
not
quite
two,
it's
normally
1.75,
and
so
we
just
knock
that
score
down
a
little
bit
because
it's
on
a
school
facility
and
it
won't
be
open.
C
C
Yes,
yes,
which
is
unsuitable
for
the
needs
of
them,
I
mean
a
get
back
to
the
practice,
part
of
it
right.
So
how
do?
How
do
we
talk
about
the
practice
field?
So
those
kids
are
on
that
field.
Five
days
a
week
or
three
months,
you're
gonna
completely
trash
any
field
that
they
use
because
you're
using
it
that
much
so
do
we
recommend
that
something
like
that
has
I
mean
you're,
not
gonna,
lay
turf
down
there
just
to
practice
on
I
get
it.
B
Obviously,
all
day
and
I
see
Jonathan
raising
his
hands,
I
want
them
to
jump
in
and
from
a
football
perspective,
gut
check
the
numbers
for
sure.
But
my
short
answer
is
when
we,
when
we
tallied
up
that
field,
it
basically
comes
in
it
quantifies
analytically
to
about
a
third
of
a
field
right
by
the
time
you
factor
in
the
youth
drop
in
the
the
condition
of
the
field.
You
know
it's
it's
about
a
value
of
point
three
of
a
real
field.
B
So
that's
where
the
demand
isn't
rate
isn't
meeting
because
they're,
obviously
using
it,
and
so
is
lacrosse
and
so's
other
teams.
You
know
five
days
a
week,
but
it
really
it
shouldn't
be
used.
You
know
the
conditions
not
good
enough,
and
none
of
you
have
set
and
the
amenities
are
there
and
stuff
like
that,
so
you're
using
it
way
more,
but
that's
why
it
gets
a
score
of
a
point
three.
Where.
E
That
was
a
good
point.
That's
what
I
was
trying
to
say
hosting
question
about
the
lights,
certainly
for
the
corner.
Planes
I,
think
Jerry,
that
Bob
Harras
body-
and
he
wanted
to
talk
to
me
involved
in
all
that
process,
playback
blend
and
even
even
lights.
Right
now,
I
need
myself
putting
Little
League
field.
The
residual
light
is
barely
anything
in
their
houses
right
next
to
that
baseball
field,
no,
the
puts
on
120
to
be
minimal
residual
lighting.
E
That's
one
thing.
The
only
thing
is
that
my
question
was
about
no
con
Chester,
that's
the
clothing
and
that
field
being
probably
I,
don't
know.
Gary
was
the
person
that
Commission
somebody
forward
on
their
process.
There's
some
bozo
for
a
multi
east
field
down
there.
They
fall
on
everything
else.
So
I
don't
know
how
to
coincide
with
this,
and
he
said
you
know,
grab
missing
football.
You
use
that
field,
even
though
it's
a
point.
Three
that's
a
place
that
is
very
useful
for
crime,
mystic
and
especially
lacrosse.
E
A
All
right
to
try
to
answer
your
question
there
John
about
the
you
know,
I,
guess
one
of
the
things
that
that
comes
to
mind
for
me,
and
you
mentioned
that
the
lights
are,
you
may
be
more
technologically
advanced
now
where
they
can
focus
the
light
better
than
they
could
you
know
twenty
years
ago,
all
those
kinds
of
things
have
changed
and
the
other
thing
that's
changed
is
I.
Think
you
know
back
when
Pequannock
Plains
Park
was
constructed.
A
There
wasn't
unanimity
in
the
talent.
That
was
a
good
idea.
I
mean
there
were
there
were
people
in
the
town
that
were
you
know
against
building
Pequannock
Plains
Park
I.
Think
today
you
know
if
there
is
somebody
who's
against
the
chronic
plains,
Park
I
haven't
talked
to
them.
I
mean
I.
I
think
that
the
community
almost
unanimously
supports
for
chronic
plains.
Park
I
have
not
heard
anybody
who
says
that
that
was
a
bad
investment
by
the
town.
A
So
you
know,
even
if
you
know
the
use
of
aquatic
plains
park
were
to
change
or
something
like
that.
I
think
they're
there,
the
the
perception
of
what's
going
on
down
there
in
the
community
has
changed
over
twenty
years
from
the
day
it
was
built
to
now.
So
you
know
what
what
people
had
in
their
brain
twenty
years
ago
about
thinking
about
this
park
and
you
know
and
putting
lights
on
it,
and
things
like
that.
A
I
think
that
that
reality
has
changed,
for
you
know
for
anybody
who
was
probably
here
at
the
time
and
those
people
have
come
in
here
since
then-
probably
have
even
even
more
different
opinions
and
but
the
the
other
answer
to
your
question
about
Claude
Chester
school.
No,
we
don't
have
any
the
the
Parks
and
Rec
Department
doesn't
have
any
plans.
We
are
here
at
this
with
this
task
force,
trying
to
develop
plans
for
how
we're
going
to
use
whatever
properties
or
facilities
or
purchasing
or
whatever
it
might
take
to
meet
the
need.
A
So
we're
coming
here
with
a
blank
slate.
We're
not
you
know,
limiting
ourselves
to
looking
just
at
existing
town
properties
or
or
properties
that
the
Board
of
Ed
is
accessing
or
anything
like
that.
We're
we're
right
now,
like
I,
say
and
just
in
its
how
many
fields
do
we
need
stage
and
then
after
that,
then
we
look
at
okay.
We've
got
a
need
for
X
number
of
fields.
Where
do
we
think
the
best
place
to
put
those
is?
Maybe
it
is?
Maybe
it
is
Claude
Chester
school?
Maybe
it
is.
A
You
know
another
school,
that's
Mary,
Morrison
school
that
might
be
closing
down,
and
you
know
in
a
few
years
or
what
have
you
I,
don't
know
the
answer,
or
maybe
we
buy
the
driving
range
and
put
fields
in
there.
You
know
there's
all
kinds
of
options,
but
we
just
that's
something.
That's
that's
the
second
step
of
our
process,
so.
B
C
C
Does
that
make
the
need
of
so
I'm
trying
to
do
a
as
counselors
appear?
You
said,
which
is
absolutely
right,
so
do
I
eliminate
a
field.
It's
like
turf,
a
field,
that's
that's
kind
of
like
so.
If
I
turf,
the
high
school
and
now
I
have
a
brand
new
turf
field
at
the
middle
school,
do
I
now
don't
delete
a
need
for
a
maybe
I
only
need
actually
two
fields
out
there.
C
B
So
to
try
to
get
the
information
kind
of
get
it
out
of
the
data
right
that
a
lot
of
these
fields
are
used,
full-time
now,
anyways.
So
if
we
go
and
put
them
onto
synthetic
turf,
that's
great
that
allows
it
so
that
the
grass
doesn't
get
trashed
right,
but
it
doesn't
mean
we
don't
need
a
whole
nother
field.
So
so,
if
the
high
school
was
to
go
to
synthetic
turf,
it
allows
us
to
get
a
lot
more,
definitely
games
on
there.
B
It
allows
the
high
school
to
host
a
lot
more
games
and
they're
currently
able
to
host,
and
probably
other
youth
sports
as
well
I,
don't
know
how
much
practice
they'd
really
get
on
it,
because
it's
gonna
be
utilized
quite
a
bit.
If
that's
the
only
field,
but
it
doesn't,
you
know
it
doesn't
cut
the
need
in
half
it's
it's
just
because
you
get
so
much
more
use
out
of
a
synthetic
turf.
B
It
doesn't
say
if
we
need
three
now
we're
not
going
to
need
one
and
a
half
if
we
put
in
you,
know
a
turf
one.
So
if
the
arya
mccrawley
can
be
made,
if
we
did
two
turf
fields,
you
know
the
third
one
might
just
be,
you
know,
could
be
regular
grass
or
you
know,
d,
do
one
turf
and
two
grass,
that's
where
you
can
probably
split
some
hearings,
but
it's
not
gonna,
be
you
know,
let's
put
in
one
turf
and
and
put
lights
on
it
and
that'll
solve
all
of
our
problems.
I
So
with
the
data-
and
let
me
see
if
I
can
clearly
get
this
across,
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
with
upgrading
everything
is
is
hosting.
You
know
the
potential
of
hosting
tournaments.
So
with
that
now
cause
increased
use,
and
so
would
there
be
need
for
even
maybe
more
you
see
I'm
saying:
does
the
data
take
into
account
like
thinking
about
thinking
about
tournaments.
B
Actually
question:
no,
it
does
not
I
mean
this
is.
This
is
simply
this
is
to
meet
the
demand
currently
that
we
have
right
now.
You
know
likewise,
if,
if
you
know
football
experiences
massive
growth
over
the
next
couple
years,
that's
not
factored
into
this,
you
know
or
or
any
sport.
So
this
is
just
the
amount
of
hours
that
we
need
right
now
and
it
doesn't
include
much
growth
at
all.
J
Go
ahead
mark
so
two
things
just
to
answer.
One
of
the
questions.
The
I
believe
that
Tara
feel
that
the
middle
school
is
a
cork,
coconut
type,
fill
that
they
put
in
there.
So
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
that
than
the
rubber
that
a
lot
of
schools
have
used
up
till
now,
but
I
think
the
the
second
thing
is,
you
know,
I
think
if,
when
we're
looking
at
usage
in
in
ours,
you
know
and
I
hate
keep
going
back,
but
I
think
the
tutor
fields
make
sense.
J
You
know
because
I
think
you
can
you
know
if
we
went
to
turf
and
one
grass,
you
know
I
think
the
two
turf
fields
kind
of
eliminate
a
field
I
really
do
because,
especially
with
the
lights
I
think
it
allows
us
like.
We've
talked
about
more
hours
and
more
time
on
it,
which
in
turn
we
can
get
more
teams
and
programs
on
it.
You
know
I'm
not
just
talking
to
high
school
I'm
talking.
You
know
whether
it's
soccer
youth
football,
whatever
it
may
be.
J
You
know
and
cycle
through
that
you
know
will
say
from
you
know
three
thirty
I
guess
on
you.
Could
probably
get
you
know,
depending
on
how
the
hours
are
split
up
on
that
field,
you
get
at
least
get
three
minimal.
I
would
say,
have
three
teams
on
a
field
from
three
3:30
on
you
know,
that's
not
a
minimum,
so
you
know
if
you're,
if
we're
looking
at
numbers
wise
where
we
act,
you
know,
if
that's
if
we
can
eliminate
we'll,
say
three
teams
per
field.
J
G
A
So
I
think
that,
just
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
to
you
know
understand
you
know
we're
saying
we
need
three
multi-purpose
fields,
you
can.
You
can
meet
three
multi-purpose
fields
by
building
three
grass
fields
or
you
have
a
synthetic
field.
That
kind
of
has
a
score
of
above
one.
You
know,
so
it's
a
synthetic
field,
we'll
we'll
accommodate
more
than
a
you
know
a
one
values,
valued
natural
turf
field.
So,
yes,
you
know.
A
If
that's
the
way
the
you
know,
if
that's
the
consensus
of
the
group,
you
know
we
can
certainly
move
forward
with
that
and
and
and
and
in
fact
you
know,
reaching
consensus
here
tonight
on
what
we
need
for
multi-purpose
fields
is,
is
kind
of
a
is
what
we're
here
for.
So,
if,
if
consensus
is
you
know,
the
data
you
know
feels
right
that
gut
check
that
we're
doing
that
we
need
three
fields
and
I
say
three
fields
in
the
generic
sense
of
three.
You
know
we
meet
that
three
field
need
with
two
synthetic
fields.
A
That's
that's
still
like
a
three
field
me
so
I'm,
saying
three
fields
in
terms
of
the
need
not
in
terms
of
physical
fields
in
the
town
of
Groton,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
maybe
that's
confusing
to
some
people
and
it's
it's
kind
of
hard
to
get
your
head
wrapped
around
so
yeah.
You
know
the.
If
we
can
come
to
consensus,
I
if
it's
one,
two,
three,
none
whatever
it
is
and-
and
you.
D
B
Mike,
so
we
had
condition
as
a
one,
although
that's
been
I,
think
argued
a
little
bit
this
year,
but
a
use
we
had
it
as
a
point
five
because
of
how
restricted
it
is
really
just
for
games
and
if
anything,
kind
of
games
for
football
priority
over
everything
else,
we
gave
it
a
point,
five
score
on
the
use.
In
reality,
it's
probably
less
than
that.
To
be
very
honest
with
you,
because
of
how
how
limited
use
it
is.
I
A
Present
it
so
Larry
needs
it.
Yeah
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
and
I
Chad
said
it
really
quickly
and
I'm,
not
sure
everybody
kind
of
heard
that
Chad
Chad's
comment
was
that
this
you
know
three
fields
meets
current
demand
that
doesn't
add
anything
that
is
not
youth
sports.
It
doesn't
add
anything,
that's
not
high
school,
it
doesn't
add
anything.
A
It
doesn't
mean
that
you
know
we're
accounting
for
trying
to
attract
young
people
to
come
in,
who
want
to
use
fields
for
Ultimate,
Frisbee
or
kickball
or
flag
football
or
other
things
that
adults
like
to
do
so
yeah.
You
know
I,
guess,
Larry
part.
A
part
of
me
would
agree
with
what
you
say.
You
know
I
mean
if
you're
gonna
shoot
I
guess
I
would
err
on
the
high
side,
because
that
extra
capacity
that
you
have
can
then
be
used
for
you
know
economic
development
purposes,
attracting
workers
and
everything
else.
A
E
C
All
argue
that
you
could
we
recoup
some
absolutely
you're
gonna
you're,
not
gonna
charge
the
youth
sports
I.
Don't
honestly,
don't
know
how
it
works
down
there,
but
I
know
at
the
adult
level,
the
electric
boat
and
the
Pfizer's
and
whoever
they're
gonna
pay
money
to
use
your
field.
I
mean
you're
gonna
charge
them.
That's
just
that's
just
the
way
it
goes
so
you're
gonna
recoup
some
of
the
cost.
Should
you
should
you
go
up
to
that
next
level,
I
fully
agree:
go
ahead,
Larry
yeah.
I
B
Right
now,
but
we
had
hired
kamon
associates
out
of
New
York
to
do
the
economic
impact
of
running
tournaments.
You
know,
depending
on
how
many
in
the
size
and
all
that,
but
there
was
a
true
economic
gain
to
the
town
of
a
couple
million
dollars.
You
know
from
the
range
of
two
million
to
the
close
to
seven
million,
depending
on
on
tournaments.
You
know
of
true
economic
impact
to
the
town.
If
we
ran
youth
tournaments
during
the
summer,
that's
not
charging
for
the
fields.
That's
just
that's
the
hotels!
It's
the
restaurants!
B
That's
the
economic
activity,
that's
generated
in
the
town
and,
what's
beautiful,
what
we
really
like
about
that
kind
of
economic
activity
is
its
outside
money
coming
in
right.
It's
not
just
money,
spinning
in
our
circle,
within
Groton,
it's
money
from
a
different
region
coming
in
and
being
spent
in
this
economy
and
then
hopefully
staying
here.
This
is
what
you
go
for.
That.
M
E
A
Frank
I
think
if
you
can
I'm
gonna
task
you
with
a
task
up
here
of
stating
consensus
if
we
have
it
or
or
arriving
at
consensus
for
this
meeting,
where
we're
at
an
hour
now.
So
if,
if,
if
there's
any
way
possible,
we
can
kind
of
wrap
this
one
up
with
multi-purpose
fields.
So
we
can
be
prepared
for
next
week
to
talk
about
the
high
school
itself
right.
So.
E
C
I
would
see
if
anyone
has
a
motion
two
on
one,
so
we
can
come
to
a
consensus
as
a
group
I
think
that's
good
I,
don't
disagree
with
anything
that
I've
heard
I,
especially
like
the
idea
of
you
know.
If
you
shoot
higher
than
lower,
then
you
know
that's
a
good
thing,
but
does
anyone
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
A
We
think
it's
about
this
many
multi-purpose
fields
and
this
this
at
the
high
school.
So
with
that,
though,
I
I
don't
know,
I
I
haven't
heard
anybody
say
anything
other
than
three
fields
here
tonight,
I
haven't
heard
a
reason
why
less
than
three
fields
would
be
necessary
and
I
I've
heard
a
little
bit
of
discussion
about
why
having
maybe
more
than
three
is
is
is
advantageous
so
where,
where
are
the
committee
members
with
kind
of
a
recommendation
or
a
consensus,
trying
to
try
to
get
there?
Okay.
E
B
J
B
Allowing
for
any
growth,
correct-
and
that's
kind
of
you
know
what
I
was
kind
of
hearing.
Is
that
three
meets
the
need?
You
know
if
we
want
to
say
I
was
kind
of
leaning
towards
a
three
and
a
half
number
or
something
a
little
more
cuz
again.
I
I
know
how
the
numbers
I
think
they
air
low,
because
it
spreads
out
to
use
across
all
hours
and
it
doesn't
accommodate
for
for
some
of
those
nuances
to
try
to
say
to
jump
from
about
three
and
a
half
again.
B
That
could
be
that
could
just
numbers
there's
a
way
of
figuring
that
out
with
maybe
not
physically
three
and
a
half
fields,
but
it's
three
new
fields
and
we
renovate
another
or
we
renovate
a
couple
and
build
a
couple
but
I
think
it's
it's
an
hour's
thing
for
me
that
I
look
at
so
I
think
at
least
three
for
my
personal
opinion
from
a
lacrosse
perspective.
I
think
we
definitely
could
utilize
three.
You
know
we.
B
We
we
use
every
piece
of
grass
that
we
can
find
in
town
from
behind
the
library
to
the
middle
school,
to
Claud
Chester,
to
elementary
schools
that
no
team
has
ever
used
before
and
we're
now
sending
kids
down
there.
Five
days
a
week,
you
know
from
after
school
or
from
after
work
until
dark,
you
know
and
granted
when
poor
kwatak
plains
was
built
20
years
ago.
The
the
program
didn't
exist
right
and
and
now
it's
grown,
and
then
we
need
more
space
and
I
tend
to
think
things
like
field
hockey
are
gonna.
B
Do
the
same
thing.
You
know
we
have
field
hockey
program
at
the
high
school.
We
don't
have
a
youth
program
because
it's
there's
just
no
place
for
it
to
go,
but
I
could
hope
that
in
20
years,
when
we're
all
thinking
about
how
many
more
fields
we
might
need,
then
that
field
hockey
will
be
sitting
here
at
the
table.
You
know
saying:
hey:
we
need
some
more
field
space
and
we're
having
to
practice
behind
schools
and
stuff
like
that.
N
Yes,
what
what
I
was
wondering
is
if
we
couldn't
present
to
the
council
that
the
three
is
the
bare
minimum
but
support
Mark's
motion
for
the
four
just
just
let
the
council
know
three
is
the
bare
minimum
for
will
allow
for
growth,
so
the
council
can
make
an
informed
decision.
You
know
about
how
many
they
want
to
approve,
and
that
brings
in
Larry's
point
about
the
growth.
That's
thank
you
sure.
A
Oh
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
there
that
you
know
that
I
guess
a
couple
of
things
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
following
the
rules
of
meetings
and
whatnot.
So
there
is
a
motion
and
it
has
been
seconded
but
the
the
point
I.
Actually
you
know
I
heard
to
synthetic
into
turf,
natural
turf
fields.
Chad
in
your
calculations
to
synthetic
fields
plus
I
mean
that's.
Actually,
that's
not
three-and-a-half.
That's
more!
Like
five.
B
A
Yeah,
so
you
know
I
guess
marks
motion
there
is,
is
kind
of
a
motion
for
it
and
without
trying
to
be
I,
know
I
know
he
said
synthetic
and
natural
turf,
but
again
we're
looking
at
kind
of
that
number
that
we
can
meet
that
number
in
a
number
of
different
ways.
So,
but
but
there
again,
you
know
if
the
motion
is
what
it
is
and
people
agree
with
that,
then
we
can
certainly
move
forward
and
and
and
that's
what
we
that's,
what
we
would
cheer
for.
C
My
opinion,
it
is
I'd
like
the
two
two
idea,
because
I
totally
agree
that
ten
fifteen
years
from
now
the
growth
of
the
area
and
you're
trying
to
actually
get
a
little
return
on
investment
and
this
money
somewhere
along
the
way
by
charging
others
out-of-town
adult
leagues.
So
I
would
be
for
definitely
for
two
and
two
personally.
L
B
D
L
I
think
to
who
made
the
point,
but
it
was
J
to
have
like
a
bare
minimum,
and
then
you
know
different
levels.
I
think
is
a
good
idea
only
because
the
costs
are
gonna,
be
you
know,
they're
gonna
be
up
there
and
that
doesn't-
and
this
is
just
this
rectangle
field-
not
the
baseball
fields
that
we've
already
talked
about,
and
then
I
was
also
wondering
with
regards
to
the
leagues,
not
the
leagues
that
use
them,
but
well
in
baseball.
We
had
a
very
dry
now
could
conversation
about
travel
teams?
L
B
A
E
L
Then
all
of
that,
like
the
like
rotten
of
lacrosse
and
whatever
they
are
they're
using
they're,
all
Grande
town
leaves
they're,
not
they're,
not
like
third-party
okay.
I.
Think
that's
important
too,
like
you
know,
I
know
that
regards
to
the
baseball
that
they're
saying
that
they're
nonprofit
but
I
don't
know
what
they
pay
out
to
the
organizers.
You
know
I,
think
nonprofit,
yeah
I,
don't
know
I'm,
not
sure
I,
just
I
just
want
admit,
I.
Think
there's
an
important
point
for
me.
C
G
I
I
wonder
if
we
should
look
at
now,
there's
a
motion
on
the
floor
and
this
isn't
quite
low,
but
if
we
should
be
looking
at
possibly
forming
regional
fields,
we
have
regional
teams
and
we're
drawing
kids
from
a
lot
of
different
towns.
Wouldn't
it
be
a
good
idea
to
develop
a
regional
field,
I
think
there's
a
lot
more
open
land
and
Ledyard,
for
instance,
than
there
is
Brock.
G
But
when
it
comes
to
regional
teams
that
are
drawing
kids
from
a
lot
of
different
towns,
it
would
be
nice
if
we
got
together
with
different
towns
and
developed
a
regional
field.
As
far
as
the
motion
on
the
table
is
the
floor
is
concerned
and
concerned
about
asking
for
four
fields
when
we
feel
that
we
need
three,
you
stop
and
think
that
we're
asking
for
a
million
dollars
per
field
just
to
build
it.
G
And,
of
course,
if
we
have
to
buy
the
land
also,
then
you'd
probably
have
to
increase
the
cost
by
somewhere
around
50
to
100
percent.
So
I
am
concerned
about
that
I'm
concerned
about
the
cost
and
I'm
concerned
about
the
effect
it
will
have
on
the
people
of
the
town,
the
people
who
have
nothing
to
do
with
sports
and
in
the
cost
to
the
town.
G
If
we're
talking
about
three
baseball
fields
and
three
rectangular
fields
at
between
one
and
two
million
dollars,
each
we're
talking
about
somewhere
in
the
range
of
30
percent
of
the
annual
budget
of
the
town
outside
of
the
Education
Department.
So
it's
a
it's.
It's
a
lot
of
money
and
I
think
that
we
should
present
ourselves
as
looking
for
the
less
expensive
way
to
accomplish
what
we
need.
A
One
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
is
is
to
kind
of
quantify
this.
You
know
and
and
certainly
part
of
our
quantifying
it
is,
is
meeting
the
needs
right
now,
and
it's
also,
you
know
a
little
bit
of
a
statement
about
what
it
is
that
we
envision
for
the
future
as
well.
You
know
I,
don't
at
this
point
in
the
process.
A
I
would
be
hesitant
myself
to
kind
of
shortchange
it
because
we
haven't,
we
haven't,
asked
citizens
of
the
town,
yet
you
know
when
we
come
up
with
the
final
number
of
fields
that
we're
going
to
recommend
and
what
the
final
cost
of
building
them
is
going
to
be
and
where
we
anticipate
putting
them
at
that
point,
it's
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
talent
decision
and
it's
a
decision
for
the
Town
Council
to
decide.
Is
that
something
that
we
want
to
try
to
address
in
a
capital
budget?
A
A
I
think
the
charge
of
the
task
force
is
to
go
ahead
and
and
and
give
the
best
recommendation
that
we
can
give
you
know,
and
then
you
know
certainly
we're
going
to
do
our
work
and
kind
of
come
up
with
a
with
a
price
tag
on
that
and
then
then
it's
going
to
be
up
to
decision-makers
to
have
all
the
data.
Here's
the
need,
here's,
the
ones,
here's
the
future
whatever
and
here's
what
it's
going
to
cost
and
here
we're
going
to
put
them.
A
They
put
all
that
in
there
and
and
there's
an
opportunity
at
that
time
to
say
now
we
need
to
scale
this
back
or
whatever,
but
for
right
now,
I
guess
my
my
recommendation
is
to
you
know:
do
our
best
in
terms
of
presenting
what
it
is
that
we
think
is
going
to
serve
the
town
the
best
in
the
future.
And
then
you
know
it's
going
to
be
what
it's
going
to
be
once
once
those
financial
questions
get
asked.
B
B
What
we
might.
We
might
need
five
right,
the
data
right
now,
if
we,
because
it
has
to
smooth
everything
out,
we
put
on
kids
for
an
hour
during
the
practice,
but
if
they
practice
for
an
hour
and
a
half
sometimes
or
you
know,
the
different
factors
are
in
there
and
different
teams
use
things
differently
so
that
you
know
that
might
not
show
up
in
the
data.
That's
all
I'm
trying
to
say
is
that
it's
not
don't
just
take
the
data
perfectly,
it's
kind
of
the
first
benchmark.
B
The
idea
of
today's
discussion
is
to
talk
with
the
different
groups
and
say
you
know:
if
we
had
three
fields,
would
that
meet
your
current
needs
and
and
I
arc
I.
Do
like
your
comment
about
the
two
and
two
because
you
look
at
it
from
a
real.
You
know
what
you
need
to
put
on
the
field.
You
know
how
many
teams
you
have
you
know.
You
know
how
much
time
you
have
in
you
know
how
much
space
you
need
right.
So
you
look
at
it
as
a
you
know.
B
This
is
if
I
have,
this
I
can
probably
fix
my
needs
right,
and
so,
if
you
took
it
from
that
perspective,
as
Jerry
Ken
did,
you
said
you
know
to
synthetics
if
we
rate
those
as
one
and-a-half
fields
of
piece
and
that's
three
and
we
had
to
grass
fields,
that's
five!
So
really
what
I'm
hearing
from
you
is,
you
might
need
five
fields
with
the
high
school
they
kind
of
meet.
It's
per
NEADS
might
need
five
fields
to
work
on
right.
J
B
J
Right
number
I
think
I
think
as
well.
You
know,
you
know
with
the
submarines
being
built
and
things
like
that,
like
I'm.
Also
thinking
like
our
population
in
this
town
is
gonna
increase.
You
know
and
I
know
that's
what
we're
kind
of
talking
about
as
well.
As
you
know,
we're
projecting
out
where
hey
you
know
we're
talking
three
right
now
as
to
what
we
need
based
on
what
we
currently
have.
You
know
we're
not
we're
not
factoring
in
what
we
may
have.
J
You
know
three
four
or
five
years
from
now
with
our
population
increasing
and,
and
that
could
mean
more
sports
within
our
town.
You
know
whether
it's
soccer
football
bass,
whatever
it
may
be.
You
know
so
I
think
at
this
point,
I
think
I'm.
Looking
at
like
big
picture,
you
know
and
then
knowing
that
at
some
point
we're
gonna
have
to
scale
it
back.
You
know,
but
I
think
you
know
I'm
also
looking
at
maybe
selfishly
slightly
but
I'm.
Also
looking
at
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
dealt
with,
you
know
from
high
school
standpoint.
J
I
know
we're
gonna
talk
about
that
next
week.
You
know
something
else.
Maybe
I,
maybe
we
could
suggest
right
now
is
the
fact,
maybe
that
we
look
at
after
next
week's
meeting
when
we
talk
about
the
high
school
and
what
is
needed.
Maybe
at
that
point
then
we
make
a
decision
based
on
a
number
of
rectangles
I.
Don't
know
you
know
so
that
way
we
have
everything
we
need
moving
forward
and
maybe
there's
some
information
shared
at
that
point
that
helps
us
kind
of
formulate
a
better.
Maybe
it's
not
too
into.
J
C
Any
other
discussion
from
any
one
that
hasn't
been
discussed
so
Jerry,
I,
guess
the
the
motion
on
the
floor
is
for
two
or
the
motion
that
was
made
by
mark
to
since
other
fields
in
tutor
fields.
So
if
we
go
forward
with
that,
then
we
would
have
to
we'll
have
to
have
a
vote.
Well,
so
we're
prepared
to
do
that
now.
So
all
the
motion
on
the
floor
for
two
synthetic
fields-
tutor
fields,
I
guess,
raise
your
hand.
It's
probably
the
easiest
way
to
do
it.
I
would
vote
yes,
yeah.
F
A
G
C
F
C
C
I
A
Question
so
I
don't
know
of
anybody
else
who
has
been
invited
specifically
I,
don't
have
any
I
guess
it
would
be.
You
know,
we've
got
Ted
on
the
call
we've
got
rich
has
been
a
a
regular
participant
here.
We've
got
mark,
so
you
know,
if
there's
anybody
else,
that
somebody
thinks
we
ought
to
invite.
I
certainly
can
do
that.
So
if
anybody
does
want
somebody
to
invite
for
that
meeting,
if
you
would
just
please
send
that
to
me
so
I
can
invite
them
as
a
guest,
yeah.
A
B
J
I,
don't
know
it's
a
good
question:
I
think
I
don't
want
it
to
I,
mean
I
think
there
could
be
too
much
opinion
and
I
think
it
might
slow.
What
we're
trying
to
get
to
I
think
I
have
a
pretty
good
synopsis
as
to
everything.
That's
you
know
that's
needed
and
based
on
our
programs
and
projections,
and
you
know
basically
all
aspects
of
that
of
the
high
school
you
know
and
as
well
as
possibly
even
some
middle
school
as
well,
so
I
think
I
have
a
pretty
good.
J
You
know
roundabout
idea,
numbers-wise
things
like
that
that
I
can
share
with
everybody.
So
you
know
I
think
I
will
send
I'll.
Do
this
I'll
send
an
email
to
the
coaches
and
ask
them
for
any
additional
input
that
they
feel
that
I
should
share
with
the
committee
next
week,
but
I
honestly,
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
think
having
you
know,
35
coaches
on
this
call
is
gonna,
be
we're
not
gonna
get
much
out
of
it.
Honestly.