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City of Groton, Connecticut municipal meetings: Mayor & Council and Committee of the Whole May 24, 2021. Click on the links below to view the agendas.
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D
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A
A
This
is
a
30
pound
box
of
food.
It
contains
milk,
other
dairy,
cheese
and
yogurt
and
other
dairy
products.
It
contains
fruits
and
vegetables
and
cooked
proteins.
So
we
will
be
handing
those
out
tomorrow
at
st
john's
christian
church,
in
addition
to
that
ledge
light
health
center.
Our
excuse
me
fledgling
health
district
will
be
issuing
moderna
and
johnson
and
johnson
vaccines
during
the
same
period
of
time,
so
we're
teaming
with
them,
and
they
will
now
be
with
us
at
our
food
drives
when
we
do
this
and
we're
anticipating
this
to
continue
monthly
throughout
the
future.
A
So
if
that
changes
I'll,
let
you
know
all
right.
Referrals
number
one.
The
first
one
is
jim
streeter
planning
and
zoning.
This
is
a
reappointment.
Have
the
information
in
your
packet
any
questions
on
jen,
okay.
I
need
a
motion
to
move
this
to
the
mayor
and
council
meeting
of
june
7
2021
so
moved.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
a
second
any
further
discussion.
A
A
I
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
we
moved
here
last
year.
I
know
you
have
the
information
I've
done,
planning
zoning
municipal
work
for
four
decades,
representing
municipalities
representing
applicants,
so
I
have
some
background
in
it.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
I
think
groton
is
a
wonderful
community.
I
have
a
lot
to
learn
about
the
community
and
what
your
goals
are
and
so
forth,
but
I
think
this
is
an
exciting
experience
and
I
look
forward
to
it.
C
Deputy
mayor
less
of
a
question,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say-
and
I
probably
am
a
broken
record-
I
say
this
almost
every
time,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
volunteering,
especially
now
in
our
area.
Planning
and
zoning
is
kind
of
a
hot
button
issue
and
it's
very
complicated
and
we
get
a
lot
of
feedback
about
it.
So
volunteering
to
be
on
this
particular
commission
is,
you
know
a
big
deal
to
me
because
you
don't
have
to
do
it.
It's
volunteer,
so
I
just
want
to
say
from
us.
C
E
D
I
I'm
still
practicing
in
new
york,
I
figured
when
I
moved
up
here.
I
would
have
to
go
back
and
commute
once
a
week,
perhaps
for
some
meetings
and
so
forth.
One
of
the
probably
the
only
beneficial
aspect
of
the
the
covet
19
was
I've
been
going
to
court
and
going
to
planning
board
and
zoning
board
meetings
remotely.
So
I
haven't
had
to
do
that
at
all
recently
became
admitted
in
connecticut,
but
you
know
I'm
kind
of
tailing
off
new
york.
I
I
A
A
Okay,
the
next
is
charles
wang.
You
have
on
your
agenda
planning
and
planning
and
zoning,
but
this
morning,
when
I
was
talking
to
the
department
heads
we
found,
we
have
a
need
for
a
position
in
harbor
management,
so,
instead
of
going
to
planning
and
zoning,
we've
asked
him
to
fill
a
position
in
harbor
management.
J
J
J
When
I
built
my
house
1999
and
I
have
to
come
to
the
zoning
board
for
four
times
so,
every
time
I
come
here,
they
say
you
have
to
change
this,
so
I
submitted
next
month.
Then
they
say
they
come
up
with
a
new
one.
So
I
finally
fourth
time
I
finally
told
them.
I
said
why
don't
you
tell
me
three
months
ago,
four
months
ago,
right,
that's
not!
The
zoning
board
is
about
right
trying
to
help
so
long
story
short.
I
saw
that
so.
J
Finally,
I
spoke
to
mayor
one
time
and
I
said
you
know
what
time
for
me
to
serve.
So
if
any
way
I
can
help
this
community
and
if
something
we
don't
like
something
is
harmful
to
our
city,
then
I
have
to
stop
obviously,
but
something
we
have
to
advance,
and
I
really
want
to
promote
that.
So
that's
why
I'm
here.
D
J
Yes,
sir,
because
I
do
so
I'm
a
jupiter
point,
so
I
have
on
doc.
So
I
I
kind
of
knew
learn
regulation,
but
I
have
to
learn
a
lot
because
my
trait
by
electrical
engineering
and
computer
engineering
side
so
but
I
have
to
learn
a
lot,
but
I
know
a
little
bit
about
the
ocean
side.
Yeah,
okay,
especially
development,
and
I
do
a
lot
at
my
work.
A
Other
questions
from
the
council:
okay,
hearing
that
I'd
like
to
move
this
to
the
mayor
and
council,
we
need
a
motion
to
move
this
american
council
meeting
of
june
7th
motion.
Second
and
the
second
any
further
discussion,
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
aye
opposed
student
extensions
motion
carries
thank
you
for
swan.
Thank.
D
A
L
Thank
you
thanks,
council,
for
having
me,
we
are
we're.
Working
greater
mystic
chamber
is
working
with
groton
utilities,
who
has
graciously
put
forth
some
money
to
support
a
5k
beer
run.
That
would
start
at
a
start
and
end
at
eastern
point
beach,
we'll
be
meeting
with
jill
and
members
of
groton
utilities
in
the
city.
To
put
this
together,
we,
the
chamber,
is
had
in
in
the
last
10
or
15
years.
L
We
had
the
fall
festival
of
aquatic
plains
and
we
we
wanted
to
kind
of
change
it
out
a
little
bit
and
do
something
a
little
bit
more.
I
know
something
different
that
might
interest
more
people
than
just
the
festival,
and
so
with
working
with
everybody
in
the
city
and
the
grand
utilities,
we
came
up
with
a
5k
beer
run
and
it
would
have
obviously
a
beer
component,
but
we
we've
been.
L
L
L
L
I
think
we
have
a
responsibility
to
you
know
the
groton
business
association
was
merged
with
a
mystic
chamber
back
in
2018,
and
you
know,
there's
a
desire
and
o'grant
utilities
has
that
desire,
and
so
do
we
to
include
groton
and
having
an
event
at
groton
city
would
be
great.
I
think
it
would
be
great
for
groton
city
it'd
be
great
for
the
town
of
groton
and
great
for
the
chamber,
and
so
we're
really
excited
about
about
having
this
kind
of
event.
There.
Okay,.
A
All
right
was
there
anything
in
the
okay,
so
so
this
is
the
chamber
side
of
it.
Jill
is
going
to
present
the
city
side
of
it
and
we'll
get
to
the
ass
from
the
council,
because
you're
probably
wondering
what.
Why
are
you
guys
getting
briefed?
Here's
why
you're
being
briefed?
This
is
one
of
the
things
we've
been
talking
about
and
we
talked
about
this
before
covet
was
having
a
beer
run
here
in
the
city
we
haven't
had
one
either
ever
or
in
a
long
time
and
now
coming
out
of
covid.
A
This
is
a
great
opportunity
to
showcase
the
city
show
off
part
of
the
city,
and
I
I
think
it's
a
good
thing
bruce
and
ground
utilities
we
are
members
of
ground
utilities
is
a
member
of
the
greater
mystic
chamber
of
commerce,
and
so
there
was
not.
It
was
afloated
and
it's
matured
and
we've
been
we've
been
meeting,
and
this
is
what's
come
out
of
it.
So
jill
I'll
turn
to
turn.
M
M
So
the
reason
why
we're
coming
to
you
is
that
we
would
like
to
have
a
resolution
go
through
that
we
are
allowed
to
have
beer
on
premises
that
one
day
it
would
be
within
the
beer
garden,
and
it
would
only
be
from
distributors
of
the
event,
not
people
bringing
in
alcohol
that
day.
It
would
obviously
be
monitored
by
people
to
make
sure
that
everyone's
over
the
age
of
21
and
that
people
weren't
using
too
much
or
drinking
too
much
so
we're
coming
before
you
to
ask
your
permission.
Basically,
we'll
have
a
resolution.
N
E
F
N
You
know
another
thing
that
I
like
is
you
know
I
for
years
I
ran,
I
mean
I
still
run,
but
not
as
much
as
I
used
to,
but
to
the
5k,
the
half
marathons.
All
that
you
know,
and
what
I
will
say
is
that
the
running
community
is
a
very
respectful
community.
They
do
their
event,
they
contribute
very
clean.
I've
been
I
participated
in
several
events
and
not
one
running
event.
Ever
I
saw
any
type
of
dispute.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
big
community
thing,
so
I'm
for
it.
N
It's
also
gonna.
You
know
you're
gonna
get
people
from
you
know
glastonbury
from
west
hartford.
It's
it's
a
good
opportunity
for
somebody
that
doesn't
know
gratin
city
in
the
area
to
participate
in
an
event
and
at
the
beach
you
know.
So
I
I
think
that's
good.
The
only
thing
I
would
say
or
or
it's
nothing
is
do
we
know
if
the,
if
is
the
name,
gonna
be
the
gratin
city
brewfest
or
is
it
to
be
like
proof,
that's
sponsored
by
like
ground
utilities
like
do
you
or
is
it?
L
N
Yeah
yeah,
just
I'm
just
thinking
of
hindsight.
I
mean
not
hindsight
just
thinking
ahead
of
time.
You
know
just
in
case
you
do
have
some
city
residents,
don't
want
their
name
behind
a
brew
fest,
you
know,
I
don't
know
or
brew
run
right.
Rather
I
don't
know
you
know
people
think
you
know
second
thing,
just
real
quick.
I
think
it's
also,
I'm
glad
that
you
are
bringing
the
greater
the
com,
the
the
chamber.
Sorry
over
this
way.
I
think
that's
really
really
good
that
you
know
that's.
N
I
think,
that's
important
to
know
that
you
know
even
town
residents
and
people
in
mystic.
You
know
they're
welcome
over
here.
You
know
we're
not
stopping
anybody
from
coming
over.
You
know,
and
lastly,
I
would
also
say:
can
we
also
look
at,
but
you
said
just
this
event
right.
Could
we,
when
we're
working
on
changing
the
charter
or
whatever's
or
whatever
provisions?
Can
we?
I
I
I
think
it's
things
like
this-
that
need
to
that'll
get
us
jumpstarted
on
what
the
city
needs
to
do.
N
You
know,
so
I
think
you
know
just
isolated
it
to
this
event.
I
I
I
think
we
think
we
should
probably
look
at
it
as,
as
you
know,
possibility
for
other
events.
You
know,
because
I
know
jill
you
had
said
just
this
event.
I
don't
know
it
will
be
our
opportunity
to
kind
of
where
the
wording
is
where
we
don't
have
to
come
back
at
a
resolution.
A
E
N
Never
going
to
do
it,
no
I'm
not
saying
for
us,
I'm
just
saying
in
case
somebody
like
I
said
we
get
somebody
that
comes
to
this
event
and
you
get.
I
don't
know
you
get
pratt
whitney
that
says:
hey.
We
want
to
do
an
event
next
month.
You
know,
then
we're
at
the
same
place.
You
know
that's
what
I'm
saying.
A
And
sierra
is
looking
at
other
events,
sierra
and
mary,
with
parks
and
rec
we're
looking
at
other
events
right
now.
We
do
not
have
other
events
coming
up.
So
if
we
get
an
event
that
needs
to
come
up
and
need
to
get
approval
from
the
council,
we
will
if
it
ends
up
being
where
everybody
wants
to
do
all
their
brew
fresh
from
here,
then
maybe
we'll
look
at
it
at
a
blanket
thing.
A
M
A
L
F
L
N
C
Are
we
first
of
all,
I
think
it's
a
great
idea?
Are
we
incorporating
like
the
local
city
businesses
to
either
advertise,
or
I
know
you
said,
food
trucks?
I
know
we
have
a
couple
of
food
trucks
that
are,
you
know,
city
based,
but
have
we
already
approached
businesses
or
is
that
in
the
plan
yet
or
where
are
we?
How
does
that
work.
L
We
would
see
what
kind
of
response
we
got
and
see
what
we
would
need,
depending
on
the
crowd
and
as
far
as
breweries
go
we're
working
our
way
from
the
city
inside
out
so
beard
and
outer
lights
and
make
our
way.
But
for
the
an
event
like
this,
you
need
a
good
number
of
breweries,
because
the
the
people
who
are
buying
into
the
brew
fest
are
actually
gonna.
L
As
of
right
now,
getting
a
two
or
three
ounce
sample
glass
that
they'll
bring
around
to
the
breweries
to
get
samples
of
the
beer
they
don't,
they
don't
buy
like
a
16
ounce
and
drink
it.
It's
a
it's
like
a
they
sample,
all
the
beers
that
are
there.
So
you
need
a
good
sampling
of
beers.
So
we're
going
to
you
know,
work
with
connecticut
groton
into
connecticut
and
out,
depending
on
what
what
kind
of
response
we
get.
A
And
and
like
jill
said,
this
is
one
of
the
first
steps
right,
because
if
you
don't
get
authorization
from
the
council
to
do
to
do
this,
there
is
no
beer
run.
There
is
no
brew
fest.
So
a
lot
of
the
details
have
not
been
fully
worked
out
yet,
but
as
we
get
closer,
we'll
bring
more
information
to
you
so
that
the
council
is
made
aware
of
what's
going
on.
C
Part
of
the
reason
I
asked
that
I
know
breweries
were
one
are
one
of
the
businesses
that
kind
of
suffered
a
lot
during
coped,
because
you
can't
really
go
inside
a
brewery
if
you're
not
allowed
to
go
inside
anywhere.
My
other
question
is:
do
we
have
an
idea
of
I
know
it's
in
the
beginning,
but
when
we
want
to
do
it
or
when
is
there
like
a
goal.
L
A
A
B
B
L
B
I
think
one
of
the
questions
I
ask
is
because
I
have
children
with
disabilities,
but
also,
I
know
many
people
with
disabilities
and
I
work
for
the
department
also,
so
it's
great
if
they're
included,
but
also
too,
I
was
just
thinking
about
the
route
that
they
run.
Some
areas
are
narrow
and
how
they
would
actually
compromise
those
areas
if
that
was
in
the
works
and
thought
of
also.
A
G
L
For
enjoyment
not
for
getting
inebriated,
I
I
think
we
still
have
to
work
that
out
in
terms
of
I'm
not
familiar
with.
You
know
whether
it's
the
breweries
that
stop,
I
think,
I
think
the
breweries
who
are
serving
know
that
they
wouldn't
serve
somebody
who
appeared
to
be
inebriated,
but
there's
no
check
off
card.
That
says
you
get
six
chestfuls
and-
and
that's
all
you
get
sure.
G
L
So
it's
a
good
question:
I'm
not
sure
we
can
actually
predict
and
we'll
monitor
that.
But
I
can't
you
know:
jeff
from
kelly's
pace,
thought
that
a
local
5k
run
would
get
150
to
250
runners.
I
thought
that
was
a
little
bit
low,
for
I
think
this
event
is
going
to
do
very
well.
I
think
we're
going
to
get
a
lot
of
people,
so
we
haven't
talked
too
much
about
capacity.
E
G
L
A
So
there's
234
spaces
at
the
beach
and
then
we
can
do
overflow
at
every
point.
They
have
plenty
of
parking
over
there
as
well.
In
the
past,
when
we've
looked
at
capacity
in
the
beach
park
area,
we've
had
around
300
and
something
people
300
350.
excellent
and
that's
not
been
an
issue
you're
talking.
I
think
it's
a
seven
acre
park,
so
it's
you
know
it's
good
size
and
and
areas
will
be
now.
G
Maybe
someone
jogging
a
5k,
but
if
you're
running
a
5k
for
distance
or
for
time
it's
really
it's
a
really
sharp
turn,
but
I'm
sure
you've
looked
into
that
already.
But
here's
the
biggest
question.
I
have
two
questions,
one:
why
not
on
thame
street
versus
the
beach
and
the
second,
is:
how
much
does
this
cost
in
the
city.
L
Okay,
so
the
first
question
why
the
beach?
I
you
know,
I
think
it's
the
best
part
of
the
city,
I
think
that's
to
be
shown.
You
know
to
show
off
the
the
the
beach
area,
but
I
don't
you
know.
I
think
that
we're
pretty
myself
I'm
open
to
really
having
it
anywhere
in
the
city.
I
think
I
don't
know
front
of
you
or
or
jill
wanna.
You
know.
M
M
M
It's
it's
a
beautiful
site
for
people
to
see
it's
a
great
way
to
introduce
people
who
may
have
never
been
to
the
city
into
the
city
and
it
provides
space,
that's
safe,
and
it
also
is
a
little
bit
more.
If
we're
going
to
have
alcohol
to
have
it
be
in
an
area
that
is
a
little
bit
more
isolated
versus
washington
park,
there's
a
lot
of
people
playing
there
all
day
every
day,
so
that
could
be
good
or
bad,
but
for
this
first
event
we're
looking
at
doing
it
at
eastern
point
beach.
A
And
when
I
was
when
I
was
approached
because
we
talked
about
paint
street,
but
for
this
to
be
our
walk
before
we
run
run
right
to
get
our
get
our
our
feet
established
and
those
kind
of
things.
Let's
do
this.
Let's
get
this
established
once
we
work
out
the
logistics
of
it,
then
we
get
the
police
doing
our
plan
and
we
can
expand
it
and
do
a
historic
run
down
on
theme
street
right.
You
can
do
it
along
the
river.
A
You
can
see
the
river,
you
can
see
the
history
with
the
monument
and
with
the
historic
houses
and
those
kind
of
things
that,
like
whenever
councilor
carter
was
talking
about
for
the
future.
This
is
not
a
one
and
only
run.
This
is
the
first
run
of
what
we
hope
will
be
many
and
they
may
the
the
future
runs
may
be
associated
with
adult
beverages
and
they
may
not.
They
just
may
be
a
5k,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
question.
G
L
A
E
N
Goes
back
to
what
I
was
saying
with:
what
are
what
are
what
are
we?
What
is
the
city
like
the
proceeds?
Where
are
they
going
to
come
from
where
they
who's
gonna
proceed?
You
know.
So,
if
we're
like
getting
out
it'd
be
good
for
to
see
just
something
where
it
would
go,
maybe
some
moneys
go
to
like
wreck
programs
or
something
you
know
where
it
would
show
yeah
I
mean
I
I
I
it's
I'm
all
for
it,
but
what
we
don't
want.
N
A
Well,
first
of
all,
I
don't
know
how
much
we're
going
to
make
out
of
this
once
you're
done,
so
we
don't
know
what
that
is.
That's
the
first
thing:
okay!
Well,
if
there's
going
to
be
a
lot,
then
we
can
get
some,
but
second
of
all
we
have
money
set
aside
in
our
budgets
for
things
like
upsell
and
other
events,
that
we
don't
get
anything
back
from
right.
E
A
N
A
G
Please
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
I
kind
of
do
this
stuff
for
a
living.
So
that's
why
I'm
asking
all
these
questions.
I
am
not
saying
that
the
city
should
not
cover
the
cost
or
anything
like
that,
I'm
just
saying
as
a
taxpayer,
I'm
all
for
it,
but
let
me
know
what
it's
what
the
budget
is
and
what
the
city's
paying
versus.
I
don't
even
care
about
the
revenue
side.
Just
what
are
we
as
taxpayers,
covering
off
the
it's
a
great
idea?
It's
a
great
program.
G
L
Thank
you
councillors.
I
would
say
that
you
know
this
is
an
opportunity,
I'm
new
to
the
chamber,
and
I
said
that
the
groton
business
association
was
merged
with
the
mystic
chamber
and
I
think
in
the
last
few
years
we've
been
negligent
in
including
groton
and
reaching
outside
of
mystic
and
that's.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
start
those
discussions
and
start
something
that's
real
and
that
will
that
will
showcase
the
groton
all
over
groton
and
not
just
mystic,
and
you
know
the
chamber
is
a
community
business
driven.
L
You
know,
organization,
that
is,
it
really
should
have
the
community
and
businesses
first
and
foremost,
and
so
that's
where
that's
the
direction
we're
trying
to
take
it,
and
this
is
one
of
the
steps
that
we're
doing
and
I
really
appreciate
grant
utilities
and
I'm
coming
up
with
the
idea
and
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
be
involved.
So
you
know
as
we
as
we
move
along
and
as
the
plans
you
know
develop.
I
I
think
the
the
comments
that
you
guys
are
making.
L
A
And
since
bruce
has
been
executive
director,
mr
peanut
came
here
and
the
oscar
meyer
wienermobile
was
here
right.
We
had
that
out
front,
let
me
tell
you
something:
it
was
family,
coveted,
friendly
and
the
kids
were
they
came
in
by
I
mean
just
there
were
more
kids,
you
could
take
a
stick
at
out
there.
There
was
a
lot
of
kids
very
happy,
getting
peanuts
getting
whistles
and
getting
their
pictures
taken,
and
so
already
we've
demonstrated
or
bruce
has
demonstrated
a
relation
to
develop
a
relationship
with
the
city
of
grad,
and
I
appreciate
that.
L
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
I'm
wrong.
I
was
thinking
of
the
last
meme
but
didn't
say
anything
but
maybe
there'll
be
a
kid's
run
before
but
yeah
I
think
that's
all
going
to
be
developed,
but
from
our
standpoint
you
know
we're
inviting
we're
inviting
families
to
partake
and
watch
the
music
and,
if
there's
kids
or
people
under
18
who
are
under
21,
they
want
to
run.
I
don't,
I
would
say
they
would.
I.
D
M
N
P
Yeah
that
that
was
going
to
be
my
point.
This
is
this
is
moving
the
fall
fest,
which
is
one
of
the
signature
events
that
croton
utility
sponsors
to
the
order
of
magnitude
of
ten
thousand
dollars.
So
that's
rate
payer
money
to
be
groton-centric
and
to
do
anything
we
can
do
for
the
good
of
the
city.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
it.
P
P
A
So
I
recognize
that
we
owe
you
some
deliverables
costs
of
the
police,
the
return
of
this
to
the
city
of
groton.
What
does
that
mean?
What
does
that
look
like?
Is
that
financial?
Is
that
another
way?
But
what
is
you
know?
What
is
the
return
to
the
city
on
this?
So
basically,
what
is
the
city
getting
out
of
this,
and
what
is
the
cost
to
us
and
you'll?
Get
that
as
we
get
closer
and
as
we
get
it,
I
don't
have
it
yet.
A
I
haven't
seen
the
op
plan
or
anything
yet
so
it's
voice
we'll
be
doing
it
any
any.
Any
further
discussion
on
this
okay
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
abstention.
Motion
carries
okay.
The
next
thing
is
number
three
that
is
thank.
You
bruce
655
department,
presentations,
economic
development
grant
program,
sierra
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
O
Okay
good
evening,
everyone
and
for
christine
plaza
hi.
This
is
my
first
time
meeting
and
presenting
to
you
so
just
hello.
So
in
your
package
you
received
the
city
of
groton
salt
business.
Soft
cost
grant.
So
what
our
department
is
looking
at
is
actually
expanding.
This
grant.
Currently
it
covers
things
like
architecture,
fee
soy
survey
and
soil
science
and
also
engineering
and
some
legal
fees
for
new
and
expanding
businesses
in
the
city
of
gratton.
O
O
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Okay,
awnings
gutters
different
things
that
really
face
the
streetscape
of
the
property
and
different
ways
that
we
can
work
with
businesses
to
especially
brick
and
mortars
at
this
time
to
kind
of
help
them
make
their
improvements
and
get
more
people
in
the
door.
So
we
are
requesting
that
extension
and
we
would
be
moving
forward
to
the
june
7th
council,
mayor
and
council
meeting
and
presenting
a
resolution
to
you
at
between
now
and
then.
D
O
D
O
O
B
G
F
O
D
A
A
A
A
Q
It
over
to
you
sure,
thank
you
and
first
I'd
like
to
thank
e
who's
actually
online
for
this
meeting
and
the
whole
finance
team
and
all
the
gm's
and
everybody
that
put
time
into
preparing
these
budgets
there's
the
amount
of
time
that
goes
into
these
is
astronomical
and
a
lot
of
thought
and
a
lot
of
just
energy
goes
into
them
during
the
budget
season.
So
I
just
want
to
start
off
by
thanking
everybody
that
had
involvement
with
putting
these
together.
Q
Q
So
those
are
kind
of
the
process
of
putting
these
budgets
together
for
each
of
the
divisions
and
then
again
once
the
cash
flow.
If
that
does
not
work,
we
circle
back
and
usually
the
only
thing
that
can
be
adjusted
is
operating
expenses
and
capital
projects,
because
your
revenue
is
fixed
based
on
the
projection.
Q
Q
Q
So
what
the
point
of
that
is
to
show
you
the
good
things
that
the
utility
does
for
the
city
and
the
providing
it
back
for
the
electric
water
and
sewer
division.
There
are
costs
that
are
allocated
across
the
board,
so
that
would
be
your
I.t
customer
care.
Finance
admin
staff
similar
to
those
those
are
allocated
on
a
60,
30,
10
split,
60
percent,
electric
30
percent
to
the
water
10
to
the
sewer
expenses
that
are
specific
to
a
division
are
just
charged
to
that
division.
Q
Q
For
the
current
year,
we'll
just
kind
of
do
a
quick
highlight
of
all
the
divisions
from
the
revenue
standpoint,
the
revenues
developed
for
the
electric
using
historical
usage
over
the
last
three
years.
We
changed
that
last
year,
from
doing
a
one
year,
look
back
to
actually
going
back
three
years
to
get
a
a
better
average
just
to
make
sure
we
don't
have
a
mrs
bike
or
a
valley
to
just
kind
of
average.
It
out.
Q
The
sewer
there
has
not
been
a
rate
increase
since
we
implemented
the
sewer
and
again
we
did
it
based
on
a
three
year.
This
was
the
first
time
we
had
three
years
now
to
actually
do
that
and
that
resulted
in
a
two
percent
decrease
in
the
revenue
again
just
based
on
the
usage
factor,
the
from
the
operating
and
maintenance
expense
side,
the
electric
division
was
pretty
much
flat
or
one
percent
increase
through
for
the
operating
maintenance,
expense.
Q
The
water
operations,
maintenance
and
expense
is
down.
Seven
percent
and
the
sewer
operation
and
maintenance
is
two
percent.
So
across
the
board
there
are
pretty
much
flat
budgets
coming
in
and
then
we'll
go
and
we
when
we
look
at
the
water
you'll
see
why
there's
a
seven
percent
decrease
there,
based
on
a
couple
of
things.
Q
Overview
again,
just
the
capital
project
you'll
see
that
all
the
detail
in
all
of
the
budgets
for
the
electric
division,
there's
12.5
of
bonded
capital
projects.
Eight
of
that
was
for
the
transmission,
which
was
just
approved,
and
the
remaining
amount
is
old
bond
money.
That's
still
on
hand
that
they're
going
to
finish
up
some
of
the
old
projects,
five
million
of
non-bonded.
Q
When
we
just
did
that
the
last
one
it
allowed
us
to
utilize
the
rate
stabilization
fund
and
pretty
much
self-fund,
the
five
million
dollars
of
capital
projects
without
having
to
go
out
and
issue
debt
and
then
conservation
fund
capital
products
is
roughly
508
000,
which
was
ev
charging
and
led
upgrades
and
conversions
water
division.
Bonded
is
1.5
million.
Q
That's
off
of
the
new
bond
that
was
just
authorized
a
few
months
back
and
non-bonded
is
approximately
1.7,
and
what
I
mean
by
bond
is
we've
actually
issued
debt
in
order
to
do
those
projects
and
it'll
be
paid
back
over
20
years.
Non-Bonded
is
actually
cash
that
we
have
on
hand
to
do
these
capital
projects
and
stuff
that
we
don't
have
to
finance
the
sewer
division.
Bonded
again,
part
of
that
bonding
that
we
went
through
was
about
995
000
for
the
current
year,
with
non-bonded
about
300
thousand.
Q
For
the
elector,
then
we
get
to
the
cash
flow
after
we
go
through
all
that
we
look
at,
like
I
said,
the
ending
cash
and
see
where
we
are
with
what
the
cost
of
service
study
recommends
in
the
operating
rooms
as
well.
So
for
the
electric
division,
the
proposed
2022
operating
earnings
was
is
4
4.3,
which
is
right
on
target
with
a
cost
to
service
study,
and
then
our
the
cash
balance,
including
the
restabilization
fund
available,
is
about
16
million,
where
the
cost
of
service
study
recommended
minimum
cash
on
hand
is
4.2
million.
Q
So
a
little
bit
about
2
million
above
what
the
cost
of
service
minimum
cash
balance
was
recommended
for
the
water
division.
The
pros
operating
earnings
is
negative.
Four
thousand
dollars
with
the
cost
of
service
targeted
operating
earnings
of
eight
hundred
twenty
six
thousand
so
you'll
see
the
operating
earnings
budgeted
is
below
what
was
the
cost
of
service
operating
the
proposed
cash
on
hand,
when
all
said
done
will
be
7.2
million,
as
opposed
to
the
cost
of
service
recommended
minimum
cash
balance
of
5.9
so
favorable.
Q
For
this
sewer
division
operating
earnings,
506
000,
the
cost
of
service
target
is
763
000,
so
just
a
little
bit
below
and
then
the
minimum
cash
balance
or
the
cash
balance
that
we
project
on
hand
will
be
4.1
million.
First,
the
1.8
million
for
the
from
the
cost
of
service
study.
Again,
that's
something
because
we've
had
some
favorable
years
with
the
sewer
and
we've
kind
of
been
building
up
this
reserve.
Q
Q
Just
to
kind
of
walk
you
through,
so
you
can
see
now
what
we
talked
about
in
the
highlights
to
the
actual
the
easiest
page,
the
way
that
these
budget
books
are
all
prepared,
the
same
way
there's
a
narrative
talking
about
the
different
changes
within
the
budget.
Some
of
the
highlights
throughout,
like
you
said
on
page
four,
is
a
comparison
where
our
current
rates
are
versus
our
benchmarks.
Q
To
give
you
an
idea
of
where
the
rates
are
page,
five
talks
about
the
contributions
to
the
city,
the
6.4
that
we
talked
about
and
gives
it
in
a
lot
more
detail
as
to
where
that
came
from
page
six
is
the
operating
revenues.
Seven
is
the
expenses,
and
again
these
are
kind
of
summarized
by
different
by
payroll
and
then
by
other
for
each
of
the
divisions,
and
then
page
8
gets
you
to
the
other
incoming
expenses
down
to
the
total
net
earning
number
page.
Q
Q
Q
Q
So
what
you'll
see
there
is
in
that
purchase
power
line,
that's
where
the
deduction
is
or
the
offset
of
that
revenue
loss,
which
brings
you
down
to
your
operating
earnings
of
three
just
over
three
million
for
for
last
year
to
up
to
4.2
million
or
1.1
change.
So
it's
just
kind
of
it
was
just
a
shift
when
we
did
that
last
cost
of
service
of
how
those
revenues
were
in
there.
Q
Q
Then
we
go
into
the
cash
flow
and
again
as
we
build
the
budget,
this
is
kind
of
the
last
piece
that
we
we
do.
However,
it's
the
most
important
to
make
sure
we
can
run
the
businesses
effectively
see,
there's
a
small
increase
of
226
in
depreciation
again
just
for
new
assets
and
capital
projects
that
have
been
put
onto
the
books,
receipt
of
bond
funds,
which
was
an
increase
of
5.5.
Q
We
did
not,
even
though
we
had
budgeted
2.5
last
year,
that
got
all
put
on
hold
with
covid
and
then
with
the
cost
of
service
restructure.
We
it
turned
out.
We
did
not
need
to
do
that.
However,
there
is
8
million,
with
that.
8
million
is
part
of
the
15.2
from
the
transmission
project
that
was
approved,
that
we
will
be
getting
credit.
For
you
see.
Q
This
does
not
include
the
portion
of
the
rate
stabilization
fund
that
cmec
that
we
can
utilize
as
well,
which
brings
the
the
cash
balance
back
up
to
that
16
17
million
dollar
number,
which
was
kind
of
a
change
in
the
last
cost
of
service.
So
it's
kind
of
like
a
very
high
view
of
the
electric
budget
and
kind
of
hitting
through
the
different
ones
and,
like
I
said
this
is
a
very
good
page
to
look
at
because
it
kind
of
gives
you
the
whole
picture
from
the
revenue
expenses
and
then
actually
the
cash
flow.
Q
If
you
on
page
11,
this
is
the
list
of
the
capital
capital
projects
that
are
proposed
for
the
current
year.
There's
a
the
5.2
of
non-bonded
12.4
of
bonded,
again
8
millions
for
the
transmission.
The
remaining
piece
of
that
is
for
just
bonds
that
we've
already
issued
that
we're
going
to
complete
those
projects
and
then
some
capital
projects
that
are
funded
through
the
conservation
funds.
C
Q
Yeah
I
mean
so
this
year,
like
we
talked
about
because
our
cash
on,
because
the
cash
on
hand
was
above
where
the
cost
of
service
is
recommended,
minimum
cash
balance,
because
we're
required
to
keep
what
that
does
say
how
many
days
cash
on
hand.
Do
you
have
in
order?
If,
if
revenues
don't
come
in,
how
long
can
your
business
run?
Essentially,
so
we
look
at
how
much
cash
there
is.
Q
Is
there
enough
where
we
can
fund
it
out
of
the
cash
that
we
have,
which
is
the
non-bonded
piece
or
if
we
feel
that
that's
going
to
bring
our
cash
balance
down
too
low
and
below
that
minimum
cash
balance?
We
will
issue
bonds
in
order
to
to
not
use
up
cash
in
the
checkbook.
So
I
mean
it's
a
tricky
balance
we,
if
in
a
perfect
world,
we'd
all
love
to
just
use
cash
on
hand
and
non-bonded,
unfortunately,
we'll
use
a
transmission
project.
A
So
what
that
requires
is
that
requires
a
certain
amount
of
capital
spend
in
order
to
make
sure
that
your
infrastructure
is
up
to
date
and
those
kind
of
things
and
that's
why
sometimes
the
long-term
bonding
is
a
good
thing,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
our
infrastructure
up
to
date.
One
of
the
things
that
the
utilities,
the
utilities
does
not
have
a
debt
to
equity
ratio
requirement
like
the
city
does
so
the
city
has
a
limit
on
how
much
debt
we
can
have
bonded.
Q
A
So,
electric
and
water
doesn't
have
that
restriction.
The
if
you
go
into
the
connecticut
general
statute
when
it
talks
about
the
water
push
control
authority,
sewer
debt
does
get
tied
to
the
municipal
debt
and
therefore
there
is
a
separate
debt.
First
of
all,
it
ties
into
the
overall
debt
ratio,
but
secondly,
there
is
a
separate
sewer
debt
ratio
that
we
can
have
for
the
city.
G
G
Q
A
A
P
P
P
You
have
to
be
able
to
create
the
discipline
so
that
councils
such
as
yourself
realize
that
you've
got
to
have
deep
pockets
on
a
really
bad
day,
and
so
there
is
a
goal
in
the
new
strategic
plan.
One
of
the
very
specific
items
on
it
for
the
finance
group
is
to
try
to
come
up
and
work
with
the
commission
to
develop
a
cash
on
hand.
P
Policy
the
trick
is
is
that
it
will
be
different
for
sewer
water
and
electric,
and
we
haven't
been
able
to
figure
out
exactly
how
to
bring
those
together
plus
the
electric
company
also
has
the
rate
stabilization
funds
at
cmec
with
additional
funds.
So
how
do
you
blend
that
in
this?
Is
the
first
year
that
we
were
able,
in
the
cost
service
study
process,
to
take
a
view
of
how
to
look
at
the
rate
stabilization
funds
as
part
of
our
cash
on
hand.
A
B
This
may
be
a
simple
question,
or
maybe
it
doesn't
make
any
sense
if
I
read
through
it
and
maybe
kind
of
think
about
nursing.
When
I
try
to
explain
things
to
people,
I'm
like
I
was
on
google
a
lot
trying
to
understand
this
and
learn
it,
but
one
of
the
things
I
did
notice
when
looking
at
the
budget
before
I
came
on
council,
I
read
the
budget
and
I
noticed
a
lot
of
the
budgets
had
usually
a
10
contingency.
This
one
had
a
25.
It
may
be
a
simple
question.
Q
A
Q
A
If
it
comes
through
us
that
way,
I
can
make
sure
all
the
counselors
get
the
answer
right,
because
all
counselors
probably
have
a
similar
question.
But
it's
more
important
to
me
that
all
the
counselors
have
the
same
information
so
that
no
one
counselor
has
information
the
other
counselors.
Don't
have
that
way.
You
can
all
make
balanced
decisions
on
whatever
we're
bringing
bringing
in
front
of
you,
counselor
piazza.
B
Q
B
A
Well,
in
the
past
deputy
mayor,
bedford,
right,
yeah
jamal
sat
down
with
you
because
he
had
a
couple
questions
about
one
process
to
some
of
the
specifics,
because
he
was
familiar
with
budgets
and
if
you
have
questions,
please
feel
free
to
contact
ron
and
he
can
walk
you
through
one
specifics,
but
to
how
the
budgets
are
constructed
and
those
kind
of
things
there's
a
lot
of
time
and
energy
spent
in
this.
It's
not
just
people
getting
in
the
back
room,
throwing
numbers
together.
A
So
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do.
One
of
my
frustrations
when
I
first
got
here
was
okay.
We
have
a
budget
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
year,
we're
done.
Do
we
go
back
and
look
at
what
we
budgeted
versus
what
we
got
done
to
compare
to
see.
If
what
we
said
we
were
going
to
get
done,
we
really
got
done
we're
moving
we're
still
moving
in
that
direction.
A
So
the
budget-
it's
important
to
me
that
when
we
put
a
budget
together
that
the
budget
means
something
right,
you're,
not
just
spending
money
as
long
as
you
don't
overspend,
you're,
okay,
it's
what
are
you
spending
the
money
on?
What
is
it
getting
you?
What
is
it
doing
for
the
ratepayer
when
it
when
you
come
to
the
ground
utilities
budget?
And
what
are
we
doing
for
infrastructure?
Were
we
moving?
A
You
know,
because
if
you
think
about
the
municipality
of
utility,
the
utility
is
a
business,
so
the
utility
needs
to
think
like
a
business,
even
though
it
is
municipally
owned
the
municipality.
There
could
be
arguments
that
you
can't
run
a
municipality
like
a
business
and
we
get
into
those
discussions,
but
I
think
many
principals
and
tenets
of
business
can
be
used
for
the
municipality
when
you
talk
about
discipline
and
structure
and
spending
other
people's
money,
those
kind
of
things
so
any
other
questions
on
the
electric
budget
for
the
utilities.
A
Q
So
what
if
this
budget
looks
very
similar
to
the
electric,
with
the
exception,
it
doesn't
have
the
return
to
the
city.
Water
is
not
allowed
to
do
that.
So
there's
nothing
in
there
from
that
steep.
But
it
starts
with
the
narrative
our
rates
versus
the
benchmark,
which
is
on
page
three,
the
operating
revenues
for
expenses
on
five
other
income,
six
cash
flow,
seven
and
again
similar
to
what
we
did
for
electric
we'll
go
to
the
pro
forma,
which
is
page
eight.
Q
When
we
get
down
to
the
operating
expenses,
the
there's
an
increase
from
11.1
to
11.4
or
347
thousand,
as
you
can
see
in
in
the
numbers
above
that,
there's
a
decrease
in
the
operating
expenses
of
728
000.
However,
with
the
new
plant
going
into
service
the
54
million
dollar
plant,
that
was
why
there's
a
huge
increase
in
the
depreciation,
because
that'll
be
online
and
start
the
depreciation
process.
Q
You
see
that
the
prior
year's
budget
was
2
million,
with
this
year's
proposed
a
negative
of
757
000
or
a
2.7
million
to
20
million
dollar
change.
There's
a
couple
of
things
that
dr
led
that
one
is
the
in
the
prior
year.
There
was
the
grant
for
the
drinking
water
of.
I
believe
it
was
roughly
three
million,
so
that
was
the
big
piece
that
revenue
was
no
longer
there.
A
Is
that's
the
one
across
the
tonic
yeah,
so
the
last
interconnect
takes
us
across
the
tonic
cove
over
into
into
the
motegan
sun.
In
order
to
get
the
grant
was
a
50
million
dollar
grant.
We
had
five
interconnect
agreements
that
we
had
to
sign
and
execute,
and
so
we're
finishing
the
final
one.
What
the
interconnect
interconnects
do
is
one
it
allows
us
to
expand,
but,
more
importantly,
from
a
dph
point
of
view,
it
gives
the
region
resiliency,
because
we
have
one.
A
So
what
this
interconnect,
what
the
interconnects
do
is
it
allow
it
allows
resiliency
throughout
the
region?
It
also
gives
us
opportunity
for
additional
revenue.
Now,
the
rep,
the
the
revenue
in
water,
as
in
with
sewer,
we'll
find
out
in
a
minute,
can
only
go
into
water.
The
electric
is
the
only
one
that
can
make
a
profit
everything
else,
the
other
two
enterprise,
the
other
two
accounts.
Q
So
then,
with
that
being
said,
it
takes
us
into
the
cash
flow
and
you'll
see
some
significant
changes
in
there.
When
we
look
from
budget
to
budget
the
biggest
one,
when
we
we
look
the
receipts
from
bonding
again,
we
didn't
issue
the
1.4
in
the
previous
year
when
kovid
hit.
So
we
we
are
anticipating
the
issue.
Q
You
are
used:
3
million
in
the
current
year
of
bonding
the
issue,
the
next
line
down
a
big
decrease
which
those
are
the
receipts
of
the
drinking
water
state
revolving
fund
loan,
where
we
had
budgeted
8
million
last
year,
there's
no
budget
for
it.
This
year
and
theory,
all
those
loan
proceeds
will
have
been
received,
some
may
trickle
over
to
the
new
year,
just
depending
on
it,
but
for
budgeting
purposes.
Q
I
have
a
significant
increase,
which
is
two
two
lines
up
from
that
water
treatment
plant
project,
which
is
a
bond
principle
requirements
and,
as
I
stated
before,
that
1.9
million
is
because
now
with
that
loan
that
we
have
with
the
state
we're
going
to
need
to
start
paying
that
back.
So
as
we're
doing
construction
of
the
plant,
we
were
receiving
funds
from
them
kind
of
like
a
construction
loan
for
lack
of
a
better.
So
we
would
get
reimbursed
and
then
now
that
the
project
the
plant,
once
it's
complete,
will
start
paying
that
loan
back.
Q
Q
A
It
has
slid
a
couple
times.
The
original
date
was
september
of
last
year.
Then
it
moved
to
the
spring
of
this
year.
Then
it
moved
to
later
spring
and
then
now
it's
in
july.
So
there
are
a
couple
of
things:
it's.
It
is
no
increase
in
cost.
It's
delays
in
some
of
the
testing
and
some
of
the
fabrication
is
that
correct,
yeah.
P
Actually,
as
they
tried
to
remove
the
piping
and
do
actually
create
the
last
part
of
the
filters,
the
manganese
contactors
they've
had
a
hard
time
actually
doing
the
modifications
in
the
old
side
of
the
plant
to
do
those
modifications.
So
that
work
has
gone
particularly
slow
and
it
should
be
all
on
the
contractor.
B
This
may
be
outside
the
budget,
and
you
can,
let
me
know
if
I
should
or
should
not
ask
this
question.
I
was
really
interested
in
this
pcb
removal.
I
looked
up
a
lot
about
it,
and
so,
when
we
actually
do
it
are
we
bringing
the
numbers
just
below
what
is
required
or
we
actually
bring
it
significantly
lower
or
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
zero,
but.
E
E
P
Used
environmental
partners,
environmental
partners
has
come
up
with
ways
we
basically
sand
blast
all
of
the
old
paint
off
the
cement
behind
it
has
residuals
to
a
very
low
extent,
and
then
it's
actually
sealed
with
new
epoxy
paint.
If
the
residuals
left
in
the
cement
is
below
a
threshold
number,
that's
very,
very,
very
low,
it
doesn't
need
to
be
sealed.
It
actually
just
gets
painted.
A
A
A
What
happened,
what
is
happening
and
what's
going
to
happen,
is
that
the
transition
from
the
new,
so
there
was
no
pcps
in
the
new
but
to
transition
into
the
old
plant,
had
to
be
completely
remediated,
and
then
we
knew
that
in
the
old
part,
once
the
new
construction
is
done
and
the
tie
is
complete,
we
knew
that
there
were
going
to
be
portions
of
the
old
plant
that
had
pcbs
and
so
the
epa
said
you
need
a
plan
to
do
that.
We
originally
were
going
to
do
a
long
term
plan.
A
P
This
should
be
the
final
year
that
we
have
pcb
removal
for
the
water
treatment
plant
in
the
budget.
You
saw
it
in
your
budget.
So
it's
actually
a
timely,
pointed
question.
In
the
last
council
meeting,
you
approved
a
purchase
order
for
environmental
partners
to
help
us
do
the
epa
approval
of
the
final
plan
in
a
meeting
very,
very,
very
soon,
you're
going
to
get
the
next
purchase
order
request,
which
is
to
a
pcb
abatement
company.
That's
going
to
do
the
work,
we're
going
to
try
to
carry
the
same
company.
A
So
we
were
going.
We
tried
to
get
permission
to
close
the
door,
weld
the
door
lock
the
door
shut,
then
weld
it,
because
we
knew
we
were
never
going
to
get
access.
The
epa
said
nope.
You
got
to
totally
remediate
it
too.
So
once
we're
done
with
this
portion
of
the
remediation,
we
will
be
completely
done
with
pcbs
associated
with
the
water
treatment
plant
and
then
at
a
later
date.
A
We
will
come
to
you
about
pcb,
because
we
know
we
have
some
pcbs
at
the
sewer
plant
and
so
that'll
be
a
whole
different
plan.
Later
on.
We
haven't,
we
haven't
started
addressing
that
yet,
but
we
will
be
coming
to
council
with
the
remediate
with
a
plan
we've
got
to.
We
want
to
get
through
the
water
thing
first
and
then
we'll
leverage
our
experience
off.
Of
that.
To
take
a
look
at
the
pcbs
in
the
sewer
plant,
any
other
questions
on
water.
A
Q
Q
Q
operating
expenses
were
pretty
much
level,
went
from
3.7
million
up
to
three
point:
seven:
five
or
a
seventy
thousand
dollar
increase
the
net
earnings
from
the
2021
budget
413
with
the
new
budgets.
Three
hundred
eight
thousand
are
a
decrease
of
104,
as
you
can
see
mainly
driven
by
the
decrease
in
the
revenues.
Q
A
So
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
talk
about
real,
quick
about
sewer
budget
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
it
until
people
finally
understand
it
is
the
reason
that
we
took
the
sewer
out
of
the
tax
base
is
so
that
we
could
do
capital
projects
and
so
that
we
can
have
cash
on
hand
and
the
ability
to
bond
and
have
grants
one
of
the
things
we're
doing
now.
We
have
a
study
now
that
is
going
to
prioritize
projects
that
need
to
be
done
in
addition
to
the
five-year
projects
that
we
have
identified.
A
So
what
this
does
is
it
now
allows
us
to
focus
on
capital
projects
and
to
fix
capital
projects,
whereas
before
any
capital
project
repairs
were
based
on
what
was
it
going
to
do
to
the
tax
base
and
in
our
our
tax
base
right
now,
one
million
dollars
is
one
mill,
so
a
lot
of
times.
People
look.
Are
you
going
to
raise
taxes
to
fix
long
term,
or
are
you
going
to
wait
until
it
gets
big
enough
and
bad
enough
and
then
we'll
do
a
large
bond,
which
is
what
we
did
the
last
time?
A
But
also,
if
you
remember
back
in
2017,
is
when
the
digester
we
had
the
digester
explosion
and
we
ended
up
repairing
that
with
insurance
money.
So
the
good
news
is
it
got
repaired
by
insurance
money.
The
bad
news
is
our
premiums
went
up.
So
this
is
why
we
one
of
the
reasons
that
I
did
what
we
did
in
order
to
move
this,
so
that
we
can
now
focus
on
our
capital
projects.
A
The
other
thing
when
we're
talking
about
lining
inspection
and
lining
of
the
sewer
pipes
is
that
now
we
know
that
when
we
get
a
heavy
storm,
we
have
cracks
with
pipes,
they're,
not
they're,
not
pressurized,
but
what
happens
is
so
they're
not
leaking
sewage
everywhere?
What
happens
is
the
water
comes
in
and
you
get
water
infiltration
and
goes
into
the
sewer
and
therefore
it
goes
into
the
sewer
plant
we're
currently
at
64.,
64.7
or
67.4
percent
capacity
somewhere
along
the
air.
A
When
we
have
heavy
storms,
the
water
then
comes
in
that's
extra
work
that
the
plant
has
to
do.
It
also
increases
our
capacity
and
it
stresses
the
plant
and
the
plant
because
it's
fresh
water
doesn't
remove
as
much
as
much
nitrogen
and
so
therefore
we
what
we've
done
so
far
at
the
end
of
the
year,
we
get
money
back
from
the
nitrogen
credits,
but
this
takes
take
nitrogen
away
from
it,
so
we're
not
able
to
remove
as
much
nitrogen.
A
If
it's
immersed,
it's
going
to
be
continual
water
that
comes
in
and
that
impacts
our
capacity
and
our
ability
that
impacts
the
capacity
of
the
plant
and
it
impacts
the
capability
of
the
plant
to
do
its
job
to
remove
the
nitrogen.
So
that's
why
we're
doing
we're
trying
to
do
what
we're
doing
and
we're
trying
to
do
it
now
to
get
ahead
of
it?
G
A
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
extension
motion
carries
okay.
Thank
you
ron
for
explaining
the
budgets
now.
The
next
item
is
springbrook.
If
you
go
into
742,
you
will
see
an
item
for
the
annual
springbrook
annual
spring.
Brook
maintenance,
m42.
P
G
G
A
E
P
A
What
you
typically
see
in
response
to
your
questions
you
asked
before
is
typically
our
contingency
to
set
aside
a
10.
If
we
go
above
10
percent
you
I
I
encourage
you
to
always
ask.
Why
is
that?
Because,
typically
we
do
a
10
contingency.
There
is
a
reason
now
why
they're
doing
the
25,
because
of
the
the
uncertainty
counselor
sheffield.
D
A
A
D
B
P
One
of
the
things
that
came
through
council,
maybe
six
months
ago,
or
so
last
october
we
had
eels
coming
into
the
water
filtration
plant
in
the
old
plant.
The
eels
used
to
come
in
through
the
intake
structure
come
to
the
top
of
the
sand
filters.
They
would
swim
around
on
top
of
the
sand
filters,
the
water
would
go
through
the
sand
filters
and
get
cleaned
up
when
the
sand
filters
backwashed,
the
eels
would
backwash
into
the
settling
basins
and
there
was
no
issue
the
new
design
plant.
P
The
instrumentation
is
so
fine
that,
as
the
eels
come
in,
they
would
clog
some
of
the
smaller
pipes.
So
it's
a
problem
that
the
eels
are
actually
getting
into
the
plant.
So
we
put
through
an
unplanned
project
about
six
a
while
ago
to
authorize
an
emergent
project
that
would
get
to
the
point
where
we
were
preventing
yields
from
getting
into
the
new
plant
by
this
september.
P
The
goal
is,
I
keep
giving
them
august
15th
the
goal.
Their
goal
is
to
get
this
up
and
online
for
september
1st
we
contracted
with.
I
believe
this
is
being
done
by
wright
pierce
and
they
came
up
with
a
really
good
in
new
set
up
on
the
intake
structure,
so
it
will
actually
have
several
pipes
with
big
screens
around
the
pipe
in
an
air
blast
system
that
actually
cleans
all
the
debris
out
of
the
strainers
as
they
go.
B
B
P
A
A
I'm
pretty
sure
when
I
talk
to
the
guys
who
put
this
in
who
were
designed.
Let's
talk
about
it.
I
think
it's
crest,
corrosion
resistant,
stainless
steel,
so
because
it's
going
to
be
it's
not
in
a
saltwater
environment,
but
it's
kind
of
a
brackish
kind
of
environment,
so
it
is
exposed
elements
and
so
the
corrosion
resistance
thing.
It's
not
like.
It's,
not
pot
metal.
A
A
P
E
A
We
had
a
well,
we
didn't
get
it.
We
didn't
get
a
direct
brief
from
the
from
the
eel
whisperer,
but
the
the
guy
that
is
our
expert
on
eels
has
briefed
the
guys
they
talked
to
me
and
they
and
it's
almost
you
know
how
salmon
swim
upstream
and
they
have
ladders.
These
eels
actually
come
up
when
the
water's
flowing
down
the
water.
A
Then
let's
do
that
if
they
might,
if
we
knew
that
they
migrated
up,
and
then
we
could
damn
it
off
and
have
your
screening
system
there
that
way
they
didn't
get
into
the
terminal
reservoir,
which
is
smith
lake,
but
that's
not
the
way
it
works.
So
the
other
thing
that
we're
trying
to
figure
out
is
we
know
that
the
the
migration
is
is
is
normal,
but
what
we
don't
know
is:
why
are
they
coming
to
this
thing?
A
Is
it
the
flow
of
the
water
from
the
suction,
because
we're
we're
this
plant
is
designed
for
12
million
gallons
a
day,
but
can
effectively
do
easily
do
9
million
gals
a
day,
so
you're
sucking
a
lot
of
water
through
so
is
it
the
flow
that
they're
attracted
to
or
is
it
the
noise
of
the
pumps?
You
know
a
rhythmic
noise?
A
Is
it
a
tonal,
because
that's
one
of
the
questions
I
asked?
Is
there
a
harmonic
that
we
could
put
over
somewhere
else
that
they'd
be
attracted
to
that
over
here
and
not
attracted
there
and
the
the
expert
said?
No,
it's
just
it's
just
they're
just
there.
So
now,
you've
got
so
you're
going
to
have
this
screen
with
small
holes.
Eighth
inch
0.125
is
the
size
and
then
periodically
what
it'll
do
and
I'm
not
sure
I
didn't
get
a
brief
on
what
the
trigger
mechanism
is,
but
periodically
this
air
blast
system.
A
Any
other
organic
growth
then
gets
blasted
free
and
the
screens
clear
again
and
then
rinse
and
repeat
on
a
given
frequency,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
time
based
if
it's
differential
pressure
based
I'm
not
sure
what
it's
what
it's
based
on.
I
didn't
get
it.
I
didn't
get
that
in-depth
a
brief
on
it
or
I
would
tell
you
that
any
other
questions
on
the
low
lift
intake
screen.
K
A
To
answer
your
question
directly,
I
don't
know
that
they
overthought
it.
I
think
the
eels
were
getting
in,
but
because
the
eels
are
on
top
of
the
water
going
through
the
the
sand
filter
see,
we
don't
have
a
sand
filter
anymore,
and
we
also
don't
have
the
settling
tanks,
because
what
we
do,
what
we're
doing
now
is
they
would
add
chemicals
to
create,
what's
referred
to
as
flock,
and
it
would
it's
basically
larger
materials
that
would
then
settle
out
the
the
philosophy
of
this
plant.
A
Well,
eventually,
it
goes
through
these
manganese
contactors
which
what
that
does
they're
charged,
and
it
removes
the
manganese
from
the
from
the
water
there's
also
what
they
call
granulated
activated
charcoal
beds,
which
are
six
foot
deep,
and
so
the
water
is
going
through
there,
it
organic
it
organically
removes
it.
Organically
removes
contaminants
and
it
physically
removes
contaminants.
So
it's
a
physical
filter
and
it's
an
organic.
A
Oh
yeah,
so
I
mean
we
had
to
go.
We
had
to
spend
money
on
design
and
we
had
to
figure
out
what
was
going
on
this.
I
don't
know
people
could
could
say.
Why
didn't
you
know
this
beforehand?
I
don't
know
we
didn't
figure
it
out,
but
got
it.
I
think
we
have
it
well.
We
know
what
the
issue
is
now
we're
we're
hopeful
that
this
is
going
to
resolve
it,
because
if
this
doesn't
resolve
it,
then
we're
going
to
have
to
figure
something
out
because
it
would
be.
A
P
Yeah
right,
the
aquaceptance,
the
company,
that
actually
this
purchase
order
is
being
issued
to
puts
very
similar
filters
in
the
front
of
most
of
the
new
plants.
Now
this
is
the
accepted
way
of
intake
filtering
in
the
old
days
they
had
traveling
screens
that
would
go
up
and
down
that
had
very
large
things
and
it
would
keep
large
debris
out
and
then
it
would
spray
water
and
just
flush
that
large
debris
to
the
side.
B
A
E
A
L
A
Q
Point
there
really
is
nothing
crazy
to
report,
but
we'll
go
through
them
like
we
normally
do
so.
We'll
start
on
page
six
for
the
electric
division.
Year-To-Date
actual
revenue
line.
19
is
just
over
41
million
versus
a
budget
of
just
under
41
million
or
variance
of
432
000,
as
we've
seen
historically
throughout
the
year,
the
residential
and
industrial
are
carrying
the
revenue
side
with
the
commercial
lagging
behind
road
37
operating
expenses,
just
over
37
million
versus
a
budget
of
just
over
38
million
or
1.2
favorable
year
to
date
line
66.
Q
The
net
income
before
bond
principal
requirements
is
at
4.3
million
versus
a
budget
of
2.3
million,
or
just
under
2
million
dollars,
favorable
so
for
the
electric
division.
You'll
see
that
we're
again
just
a
quick
recap:
over
budget
revenue
under
budget
expenses,
which
is
leading
to
the
net
income,
that's
favorable.
A
Q
Very
similar
that
we
just
went
through
again,
this
is
the
our
normal
month
end
report.
When
we
look
at
all
departments,
there's
really
nothing
of
concern
at
this
point.
There's
still
some
capital
project
stuff,
that's
out
there
that
hasn't
been,
which
is
why
some
of
the
departments
are
still
more
favorable
than
others
and
then
like.
As
we've
talked
about
general
insurance,
it
was
a
one-timer.
We
have
one
more.
All
those
bills
are
paid.
So
therefore
there
will
be
no
change
there
and
same
with
the
debt
service.
Q
A
Out
for
the
fiscal
year,
so
ron
will
be
putting
out
a
correction
I'll
be
putting
out
an
email
soon
to
remind
department
heads
to
encumber
money
if
they
have
not
finished
spending
their
money,
because
this
is
a
zero-based
budget.
So
if
you
don't
spend
your
money,
then
it
goes
back
to
the
general
fund.
It
does
not
carry
automatically
carry
over
okay.
Q
As
of
right
now
that
hasn't
been
touched,
we
will
look
at.
I
know
one
of
the
line
items
that
did
we
were
talking
about
with
contingency
was
the
election
based
on
a
primary
and
the
normal
election
that
one
of
those
was
not
budgeted.
So
we'll
need
to
look
at
to
see
where
budgets
come
in
to
see.
If
we
need
to
reallocate
something
to
that
as
of
right
now,
we
have
not
used
any
of
the
contingency.
If.
A
Q
A
A
What
is
the
breakdown
for
the
bonds
right,
because
we
had
bonds
that
were
authorized
and
that
that
were
authorized
as
the
council
recently
authorized,
and
then
there
were
bonds
that
we
were
going
to
take
advantage
of
the
low
interest
rates
to
renew
for
life
a
better
term
and
then
that's
where
a
potential
cost
savings
would
come
in.
So
does
that.
Q
So
I
can
give
you
a
little
bit
more
info
on
that.
I
did
reach
out.
I've
been
going
back
and
forth
with
our
financial
advisor
who
handles
this
process
and
what
triggered
this
was
with
the
new
debt
issuance.
That
was
just
approved,
we're
looking
at
potentially
doing
short-term
borrowings
or
doing
permanent
bondings.
Depending
on
how
much
money
we
needed
a
short
term
is
usually
just
one
year.
The
cost
to
do
that
are
less
because
you
don't
have
to
get
rating
agencies
involved.
Q
Normally,
however,
with
talking
with
susan
once
you
get
over
a
certain
threshold
and
I'm
not
100
positive
what
that
threshold
is
even
if
you're
doing
a
short-term
borrowing
but
say
it's
for
10
million
the
bond
ratings.
The
agencies
still
want
to
weigh
in
on
that.
So
now,
at
that
point
now,
you're
doing
a
short-term
borrowing
but
you're
paying
the
pretty
much
the
same
amount
of
not
just
doing
a
permanent
funding.
So
it
eliminates
the
point
of
doing
a
short
term.
Q
So
when
we
decided
that
we
were
going
to
most
likely
do
a
permanent
funding,
what
they
they
always
doing
periodically
throughout
the
year
she'll
reach
out
and
say,
you
know:
here's
what
the
market's
doing
there's
potential
for
savings.
If,
if
we
do
a
refunding,
does
it
make
sense
to
just
do
a
refunding-
maybe
maybe
not
depending
on
the
savings
first,
the
cost
of
doing
that?
But
seeing
that
we're
doing
the
bonding,
it
makes
sense
to
tie
in
any
refundings
that
we
can.
Q
The
other
one
is
a
2013
bond,
because
we
have
not
hit
that
10-year
period.
That
bond
is
not
callable,
so
we
cannot
refund
that
with
non-taxable
bonds.
However,
we
can
use
funded
with
taxable
bonds
that
market
so
has
been
low,
even
though
it's
tax
taxable
usually
runs
a
higher
interest
rate
than
a
non-taxable,
but
it's
still
a
better
rate
than
where
we're
at
so
it
may
make
sense
to
to
do
that,
even
though
it's
really
kind
of
an
out
of
the
box
way
to
do
it.
Q
We've
seen
that
more
common
in
the
last
year,
or
so
so
that
would
be
to
do
it
2013
as
a
federally
taxable
the
potential
savings
again,
this
all
depends
on
when
it
sells
and
who
bids
on
it.
We
we're
kind
of
just
project
the
projection.
Right
now
is
we're
thinking
five
to
six
hundred
thousand
in
savings
over
for
the
for
those
two
bonds
total.
But
again,
that's
truly
a
projection.
C
Thank
you
for
always
following
up
when
I
ask
crazy
questions.
I
just
want
to
say
you
know.
I
think
we've
talked
about
this
with
single
budgets
before,
but
all
of
these
little
areas
where
we
can
save
money
allows
us
to
keep
the
budget
flat,
even
though
everything
costs
more
every
year.
I
don't
think
people
realize
that,
like
insurance
goes
up
four
percent
basically
every
year,
so
you
have
to
build
in
that
cost.
C
So
the
only
way
to
keep
from
increasing
taxes
four
percent
every
year
is
to
try
to
find
cost
savings
in
each
department
or
you
know,
create
a
to
me.
This
is
a
creative
way
to
save
tax
tax
dollars
and
even
though
it's
over
the
life
of
the
bond,
so
it's
you
know
annually.
It's
probably
a
very
small
amount,
but
every
little
part
makes
a
big
difference
to
be
more
thoughtful
with
our
money.
If
we
can
so
we
don't
have
to
keep
increasing
taxes
and
we
can
keep
our
services
available.
Q
A
Q
B
Q
So
if
so,
let's
just
say
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
june
30th,
if
there's
a
we'll
just
throw
a
number
of
100
000
out
there,
that
was
budgeted
but
not
spent
that
money
goes
back
into
the
general
fund.
It
goes
away
and
so
it'll
go
into
the
fund
balance
of
the
general
fund,
which
I'm
not
sure.
With
with
this
year's
budget,
we
are
using
a
surplus
fund
balance.
Q
So
that's
what
created
that
surplus
fund
balances
either
either
more
revenue
collected
than
budgeted
me
with,
like
building
permits
being
an
example,
so
we
collected
more
revenue
than
what
budgets.
Therefore,
there
was
excess
that
went
into
the
fund
balance
on
the
flip
side.
The
opposite
happens
with
the
expenses.
If
they
come
in
under
budget
that
reverts
back
in
as
well.
E
A
R
R
A
Q
As
a
municipality,
our
general
obligations
are
considered
non-taxable.
Therefore,
the
person
who
purchases
those
bonds
are
it's
tax
exempt
on
their
side.
So
therefore
they
pay
a
lower
interest
rate
because
it's
offset
by
they're
not
taxed
on
it
as
opposed
to
a
taxable
bond.
The
interest
rates
are
a
little
bit
higher
because
that
person
purchasing
it
when
they
get
their
1099
int
at
the
end
of
the
year,
they'll
be
paying
taxes
on
that
interest.
Q
A
But
but
there's
also
cost
for
us
to
go
issue
bonds,
correct,
so
you
so
the
rule
of
thumb
in
the
past
has
been
if
it's
less
than
seven
or
fifty
thousand
dollars
doesn't
make
sense
to
go
with
the
bond.
Go
with
a
a
ban
or
something
like
that
right.
But
if
you
so
you're
going
to
pay
a
certain
amount
for
a
million
dollars,
but
you'll
pay
a
similar
amount.
If
it's
12
million
dollars
is
that.
Q
Close
yeah,
when
you
start
talking
issuance
costs,
it's
the
cost
issue
is
going
to
be
the
same
because
it's
your
rating
agency
is
going
to
be
the
same,
whether
you're
issuing
for
a
dollar
or
10
million
same
with
I
mean
your
attorneys.
Are
writing
the
resolutions
and
bond
councils
involved
with
the
whole
process,
so
it's
the
same
amount
of
work
for
them
and
same
with
the
financial
advisor
and
all
that
it's.
A
Q
Correct,
if
you
recall
a
few
years
back,
we
did
a
couple
of
short
term
bans,
one
it
was
for
to
expedia
to
get
them
the
money
up
front
and
two.
We
weren't
sure
how
much
we
really
needed,
and
the
last
thing
you
want
to
do
is
bond
something
up
front
and
then
have
excess
left
and
over
bond.
It's
just
it's
like
going
and
taking
a
loan
out
and
then
not
using
it
and
then
paying
back
the
principal
in
the
interest.
Q
If
we
don't
draw
down
enough,
you
know
it's
kind
of
kind
of
a
movement
target
right
now
and
then
we'll
see,
maybe
next
year,
we'll
just
issue
a
short
term
for
stuff
that
we
didn't
issue
this
year
to
get
us
through
the
following
year.
If
the
dollar
amount's
low
enough,
it's
just
we're
going
to
kind
of
need
to
see
what
the
needs
are
up:
the
operation
at
electric
water
and
so
we're
going
through
that
process
now
to
kind
of
put
cash
flows
together.
Q
E
A
Okay,
anything
else
on
that,
okay,
moving
on
we'll
go
to
784,
which
is
tax
collectors
suspense
list
at
your
seat.
You
will
see
a
new
packet,
the
packet
that
you
had
in
your
in
your
counselor
packet.
Only
the
odd
number
of
pages
were
were
copied,
but
we
have
a
new
packet
that
has
the
odd
and
the
even
numbers
pages.
So
you
have
the
entire
packet
of
information
in
front
of
you
from
a
suspense
list,
so
ron
so.
Q
Q
That's
not
what
they're
doing
here,
they're
just
moving
it,
because
they've
made
numerous
attempts
to
try
to
collect
these
taxes
and
what
you'll
see
is
that
most
of
them
there,
you
go
through
there
kind
of
small
amounts
that
add
up
it's
motor
vehicle
and
personal
property,
real
estate's,
not
on
here,
because
real
estate
can
be
leaned.
So
therefore,
that
you
or
and
have
a
tax
sale,
so
usually
real
estate
is
very
rarely
put
on
the
suspense
list,
so
either
personal
property,
the
business
went
out
of
business,
so
there's
nothing
to
collect
or
motor
vehicle.
Q
The
person's
moved
and
they've
reached
out
numerous
times
to
try
to
collect
and
they've
been
unsuccessful
there.
So
they're
just
saying:
let's
just
put
them
over
here
on
the
suspense
list.
However,
if
that
individual
does
come
back
and
tries
to
register
a
car
and
that
they
get
void
because
they
have
back
taxes
that
this
tax
is
still
collectible,
so
we
we
see
every
year
when
we
get
our
report
from
the
tax
collector
that
some
of
the
suspense
listing
is
collected.
Q
A
A
Q
See
in
this
list
too,
like
multiple
billings
returned
mail
deceased
and
they
so
they
kind
of
put
a
little
bit
of
the
reasons
as
that
they've
made
the
attempt.
It's
not
like
they
just
sent
the
bill
out
the
one
time
and
then
now
they're
saying:
let's
just
move
it,
so
they
have
done
their
due
diligence.
D
A
And
we
have
a
motion.
Second,
any
further
discussion.
Hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
opposed
abstention
motion
carries
a
773,
that's
the
parks
and
rec.
It's
a
memorial
bench
for
walter
conley,
a
couple
things
we
have
two
left
that'll
bring
us
up
to
40
at
the
beach
and
that's
mary's
max
that
we
have
there.
Now
we
still
could
put
benches
in
washington
park
and
other
places,
but
as
far
as
the
beach
goes,
they'll
be
done
once
you
get
two
more
for
benches.
A
G
E
A
A
A
Q
We
didn't
do
a
formal
rfp
when
bergen
was
selected.
This
was
a
result.
It
goes
back
to
when
we
went
to
arbitration
with
the
town
over
highway
funds.
Both
the
town
and
the
city
were
using
sussman
shapiro,
which
then
led
to
a
conflict
during
the
arbitration
which
subsequently
led
to
sussman
still
representing
the
town,
and
we
went
and
interviewed
firms.
Q
A
C
Okay,
I'm
not
saying
that
they're
not!
I
don't
have
any
negative
anything,
but
I
actually,
I
think,
that's
a
great
idea
if
the
department
heads
interact
with
them
to
see
what
their
reaction
is
or
what
their
feeling
is,
because
I
know
that
would
be
a
lot
of
work
to
go
out
to
look
for
another
attorney
and
honestly,
if
our
attorney-
that's
not
something
you
want
to
probably
keep
changing
because
we
have
experience,
they
know
how
we
run
things.
It's
probably
best
to
keep
it
that
way.
C
A
D
A
Here
we
have
a
motion.
Second,
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say:
aye,
post
aye
motion
carries
and
786
city
council
rules
and
procedures.
So
this
is
basically
the
rules
and
procedures
from
last
time.
We
move
them
forward.
You
can
take
a
look
at
them
if
there
are
rules
and
procedures
that
you
want
to
change
or
if
there's,
if
you
want
to
do
it,
if
you
want
to
change
it,
remove
it
or
add
something,
let
us
know,
and
we
can
make
those
changes
before
it
comes
to
the
council
on
june
7th.
A
A
E
A
So
we
will
not
have
mayor
council
or
committee
the
whole.
The
first
monday
is
first,
money
in
june
is
the
7th
of
june.
So
that
is
when
we
would
the
council,
you
would
be
voting
on
this.
So
if
you,
if
you
have
changes
or
recommendation,
if
you
have
recommendations
for
other
changes,
deletions
additions,
you
need
to
get
in
the
mayor
and
council
office
so
that
we
can
get
them
out
to
everybody
for
review
so
that
when
you
vote
on
it
on
june
7th
and
everybody
has
the
same
document.
D
A
A
D
A
E
A
To
talk
about
foia
freedom
of
information
and
meeting
what
a
meeting,
what
the
definition
of
meeting
is,
what
it's
not
and
the
fact
that
innocent
something
innocent
could
quickly
become
a
meeting.
For
example,
if
you
start
collaborating
through
email
on
this,
you
can
become
a
meeting.
So
don't
do
that!
Don't
have
a
meeting.
D
A
Reports
shall
contain
the
date
and
place
the
meeting
names
of
the
members.
The
fact
that
the
quorum
wizard
was
not
preaching
the
record
of
any
votes
taken,
similar
discussion,
so
when
you,
so,
if
you
haven't
got
your,
if
you
have
not
provided
input
on
what
committee
you
want
to
be
on,
you
need
to
get
those
to
us.
Some
of
you
have
already.
Some
of
you
have
not.
I
think,
unless
you.
A
I
may
have
a
different
answer
for
you,
depending
on
the
answer
I
get
from
clerk-
peters,
okay.
So
what
we
have
done
in
the
past
is
you
will
get
a
packet
that
gives
you
a
template
for
what
your
committee
for
your
one?
You
get
an
agenda,
but
two
for
your
committee
minutes
so
you're
each
going
you're
either
going
to
be
in
group
one
or
group
two
group,
one
you're,
the
chair,
you're
either
you're
the
chair
or
you're
an
attendee.
A
A
Yep
but
I'm
going
to
talk
everybody
through
it
and
the
reason
you
do
that
is
so
that
everybody
hears
the
same
thing
I
mean
it
just
makes
sense
to
me
right
because
some
people
may
or
may
not
be
holding
the
meetings
like
we
said
before,
but
we'll
just
make
sure
everybody
hears
it
and
then
you
got
the
template
for
there.
You
have
to
so
that
the
minutes
do
not
have
to
be
everything
that
was
said
verbatim.
It's
a
high
level.
A
A
A
And
and
we're
so,
we
have
a
it's
a
it's
a
sheet
for
like
a
better
term
that
helps
you
run
this
too.
So
we
are.
We
are
going
to
have
training
on
foia
and
we
are
going
to
have
training
on
robert's
rules
and
that
will
help
you
in
your
committees
and
that
will
also
help
you
as
counselors
at
large
for
precedence
of
rules
when
rules
apply
when
you
can
move
things
when
order
of
precedence,
those
kind
of
things,
so
we
will
be
talking
about
that
here
soon.
A
Going
back
to
your
question,
so
your
question
was
yes,
it's
a
written
report
so
and,
and
typically
what's
happened,
is
people
would
write
it
and
then
slip
it
underneath
because
they're
so
when
you
get
into
foia
requirements,
there's
posting
requirements.
So
if
you
have
a
meeting,
we
have
to
post
it
publicly
within
so
many
hours,
24
48
hours
of
the
public
of
the
meeting,
and
they
are
all
public
meetings
right.
So
the
public
is
invited
to
come
in
and
observe
in
your
meeting
now
they
are
not
automatically
authorized
to
speak
at
the
meeting.
A
That's
up
to
the
chair
as
to
whether
or
not
they
recognize
people
in
the
in
the
audience
committee
members
are
authorized
because
they're
on
a
committee
but
non-committee
members
aren't
and
and
some
some
members
of
the
public
said
well,
hey
it's
a
public
meeting.
I'm
here
I
get
to
say
what
I
want.
You
still
have
to
follow.
The
rules
of
the
of
the
committee.
A
A
A
A
C
To
piggyback
on
that
last
year
our
group
met
outside
on
the
grass
in
the
summer,
which
was
really
nice.
So
I
I
last
we
checked
with
the
clerk
last
year
because
of
kobe's
concerns.
We
brought
lawn
chairs
and
sat
six
feet
apart
and
had
our
meetings
outside
and
it
was
very
pleasant
in
the
nice
sunny
weather.
So
when
it's
nice
out,
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
continue
doing
that
because
generally
people,
don't
usually
you
only
have
like
one
or
two
people,
we've.
N
C
A
We
I
have
staff
working
on
short-term
rental
issues
now,
but
I
forget
which
committee
it
is
but
has
short-term
development,
okay,
so
whoever's
on
community
development.
You
are
going
to
be
talking
about
short-term
rentals.
That
is
something
that
I
am
going
to
push
and
we're
going
to
get
through.
So
but
it's
it's,
it
is
a.
It
is
a
thing
that
is
emotional.
A
It
became
extremely
controversial
recently
because
it
was
made
political
and
but
no
inc
is
working
on
it.
The
town
of
groton's
working
on
it
new
london
has
decided
not
to
pick
it
up
ledger
had
they
have
an
ordinance
only
because
they
had
party
houses,
and
so
they
put
something
together,
but
there
there
is
a
split
locally
about
who
has
who
is
looking
at
it
and
who's.
Not
looking
at
a
lot
of
people
aren't
looking
at
it.
The
state
does
not
have
guidance
on
it
federally.
There
is
not
guidance
on
it.
A
A
B
C
Depot
sorry,
I
didn't
wasn't
trying
to
interrupt.
I
I
was
going
to
maybe
recommend
that
if
anyone
that
has
questions
in
this
next
week,
since
we
have
two
weeks
till
the
next
meeting-
maybe
if
everyone
has
any
questions
or
comments
or
things
that
they
think
they
want
to
change,
send
them
all
to
you
and
if
there's
a
significant
amount.
A
A
But
it
has,
it
hasn't
always
been
it's
not
like.
We
always
have
a
committee.
Sometimes
we
do.
Sometimes
we
don't
it's
up
to
the
council
on
whether
or
not
I
mean
if
you
look
at
the
this
is
why
we
provided
them
to
you
in
advance.
So
you
can
look
at
them.
If
you
look
at
them
and
you
say
okay,
I
can
abide
by
this
or
yeah
I'm
okay.
A
K
A
A
D
K
K
K
A
A
A
C
So
I
guess
the
question
is,
and
I
know
you
mentioned
the
town,
but
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
have
read.
I
haven't
even
read
the
whole
rules
for
the
town,
but
there's
nine
of
them
and
their
rules
are
a
lot
longer
than
ours
and
I
don't
think,
like.
We've,
never
really
had
an
issue,
at
least
in
the
last
four
years,
with
people
not
following
rules
or
any
issues
with
the
rules
which
isn't
to
say
we
shouldn't
have
rules
committee.
C
But
I
also
think
that
before
we
decide
that
tonight,
because
if
everyone
looks
at
the
rules
and
everyone's
fine
with
the
rules,
then
it
would
seem
silly
to
establish
a
committee
tonight
just
to
say:
oh,
the
rules
are
good.
So
that's
why
I
was
suggesting,
I
think,
maybe
give
everyone
a
week
and
get
some
feedback.
And
if
you,
if,
if
there
are
enough
counselors
or
I
mean
even
one
really
counselor
that
says-
hey,
I
don't
like
this
ruler.
I
think
we
should
change
this
rule.
A
A
D
Yes-
and
I
mean
it's
fine,
if
everybody
you
know
to
give
us
that
week,
but
just
keep
that
in
mind
to
where
again
the
rules
committee
isn't
just
for
the
rules
that,
like
I
said
after
each
election,
if
anything
comes
up
regarding
robert's
rules
that
has
to
be,
you
know,
discussed
the
rules.
Committee
will
go
separate
and
actually
go
into
executive
session
if
I'm
not
mistaken
and
go
over
that
matter
right
away.
So
something
to
also
consider
that's.
D
A
We
have
a
motion,
a
second
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
oppose
extension
motion
carries
so
just
think
what
this
would
be
if
we
just
started
at
7
30
instead
of
moving
one
of
the
things
we
did
a
couple
years
ago
is.
I
went
as
I
went
through
the
I
went
through
the
charter
and
there
was
no
like,
for
example,
mayor
council
meetings
are
specifically
identified
in
charter
730.