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City of Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Committee of the Whole - April 25, 2022. Click the link below to view the agenda.
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A
We're
ready,
you're,
all
good
you
ready
to
start
okay
good
evening.
Welcome
to
the
city
of
groton
committee
of
the
hole
for
monday
april
25
2022
roll
call.
Mayor
hendrick,
is
here:
councillor
norris
deputy
mayor
depot,
councillor
sheffield
and
councillor
piazza
are
here,
councillor
carter
is
excused
and
I
think
councillor
mccabe
will
be
here
in
a
few
minutes,
so
we
will
get
started
with
number
one
appointments.
A
A
B
C
Alrighty
well,
thank
you,
mayor,
counselors,
appreciate
you
having
me
a
little
bit
about
myself.
So
my
name
is
edward
jacom,
I'm
at
64
round
hill
road
ground
connecticut.
So
a
little
bit
about
myself
is.
I
went
to
norwich
university.
Graduating
18..
I
have
a
bachelor
of
arts
in
political
science.
Government
has
always
been
something.
That's
interested
me.
Municipalities
through
the
work
recently
in
the
last
year
or
two
has
grown
in
interest,
so
I've
been
able
to
work
at
the
connecticut
general
assembly
currently
working
there
as
a
legislative
aide.
C
You
know
or
a
constituent
engagement
coordinator.
You
know
I
deal
with
state
agencies
and
helping
them
connect
with
certain
organizations
help
whether
what
problem
arrives
to
them.
Before
that
I
was
an
assistant
clerk
for
a
committee,
I
was
for
the
veterans
affairs
committee.
I've
always
been
passionate
about
our
dod's
department
of
defense,
and
so
that
was
actually
a
perk
for
me
when
I
was
able
to
go
up
there
and
I
was
an
assistant
clerk
there.
You
know
I
worked
with
testimony.
C
Submission
of
tallies
worked
on
the
minutes
and
the
and
the
summary
depending-
and
we
also
did
some
transcription
so
a
little
bit
about
me
currently
and
I'm
currently
there
at
the
general
assembly
now
and
I'm.
A
Edward
is
also
on
the
rtm.
Yes,
so
I'll
open
the
floor
up
for
discussion,
counselor
sheffield.
D
C
So
I've
been
here
the
last
12
and
a
half
years.
I've
been
here
with
my
dad.
He
was
stationed
here
he's
no
longer
stationed
here.
I
stayed
here.
I've
been
here
last
12
and
a
half
years
before
that
was
in
plainfield
connecticut.
So
most
of
my
adult
life
been
here
in
connecticut
and
grind.
Okay,.
E
C
E
Thank
you,
and
I
know
that
you
previously
ran
for
town
council.
If
you
accept
the
position,
if
we
vote
you
in
as
city
clerk
here,
it
will
intersect
with
another
town
council
election.
E
Are
you
intending
at
this
time
to
run
again
for
town
council,
or
do
you
intend
to
keep
to
complete
this
term
because
there's
three
years
left
on
the
term
for
city
or
for
the
city
clerk
again,
not
that
that
would
exclude
you,
but
I
think
like
for
all
of
us,
it's
not
in
the
best
for
the
residents
to
have
to
keep
changing
clerks.
I
think
it
would
be
nice
to
have
one
not
not
the
prior
clerk.
That
was
obviously
she
didn't
intend
to
leave
midterm.
E
C
Absolutely
at
this
time
I
intend
to,
if
appointed
by
you
to
fill
the
vacancies
is
to
stay
the
rest
of
the
term.
D
And
you'll
be
leaving
the
connecticut
general
assembly
upon
confirmation
here,
correct,
okay,.
F
What
do
you
think
will
be
your
biggest
challenge
getting
up
to
speed
as
quickly
as
possible,
realizing
we
have
all
kinds
of
stuff
coming
up
within
the
next
15
months.
C
Absolutely
I
think
the
biggest
curve
here
is,
I
wouldn't
say
the
learning
curve,
but
making
sure
you
know
I
get
adjusted
and
I'm
able
to
facilitate
and
execute
the
needs
that
you
all
need
the
counselors
and
the
mayor
being
able
to
facilitate
that
and,
as
you
know,
finishing
off
the
budget,
I
also
did
that
on
the
rtm.
I
got
on
right
during
budget
season,
but
I'm
a
quick
learner
and
I'm
willing
to
hopefully
learn
from
knowing
me
over
here
and
the
new
admin.
A
D
A
A
G
I'm
sure
so,
obviously,
as
you
all
know,
the
mystic
falcons,
we
run
the
league
here
in
groton
also
open
to
mystic
last
year.
I
believe
we
had
about
250
kids
roughly
this
year.
We
have
a
really
really
really
high
bill.
We
have
to
replace
all
of
our
helmets,
so
we're
just
looking
for
any
sort
of
donation
to
help
offset
that
cost.
H
It's
I
appreciate
you
appreciate.
H
You
both
coming
here.
Could
you
just
speak
to
the
fact
or
what
the
impact
to
what
coven
has
has
done
the
last
couple
of
years
and
trying
to
piece
together
the
the
the
league
I'm
familiar
with
it,
but
I
think
it's
I
think
it's.
H
I
think
it's
good
for
well,
I'm
familiar
with
it,
but
I
I
think
it's
good
to
let
the
council
and
the
residents
of
grant
to
know
just
how
much
you
know
covet
impacted
and
just
getting
the
league
back
together
and
just
knowing
that
number
wise.
Now
we're
still
not
even
there
yet
I
mean
the
cheerleaders
are
definitely
there,
but
football
players.
You
know
as
far
as
getting
people
in
the
parents
and
how
that
you
know
registration,
lack
of
registration
has
impacted
the
you
know,
your
finances.
I
Right
so
as
a
nonprofit
organization,
we
to
run
a
league,
many
don't
know
is
somewhat
expensive
for
our
starters.
Our
insurance
just
to
have
insurance
for
the
league
for
our
players
and
the
board
members
and
the
coaching
staff
is
about
4
500,
and
that
goes
up
every
single
year
in
2020
we
didn't
purchase
insurance
because
we
didn't
have
a
league
or
we
didn't
have
a
season
that
year,
but
therefore
we
didn't
have
the
registrations
coming
in.
So
without
that
we
didn't
have
a
foundation
to
keep
going
for.
I
I
If
you
can
imagine
how
much
a
helmet
is,
some
may
not
know
they
run
about
126
dollars
per
helmet,
so
you're.
Looking
at
that
times,
125
helmets,
you
get
the
lovely
bill
of
nineteen
thousand
dollars
without
the
2020
season
that
drastically
cut
into
our
foundation
to
be
able
to
make
that
purchase
healthy
that
purchase
required
without
the
helmets.
We
would
not
have
a
season
this
year.
I
We
cannot,
I
cannot,
as
a
president,
put
my
players
out
on
a
team
without
helmets
there's
just
no
way
so
that
bill
brought
our
account
to
a
lovely
two
thousand
dollars.
So
any
donation
from
any
of
our
sponsors
is
greatly
appreciated
to
be
able
to
replace
that,
so
we
can
go
ahead
and
purchase
other
things
like.
We
want
to
replace
the
the
uniforms
for
our
football
players
that
again
is
not
a
little
bill
either
that
for
just
say,
our
senior
and
junior
teams
is
about
5
600.
H
And
just
add
that
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
in
past
years,
like
if,
if
the
league,
if
or
any
league
for
that
matter,
you
know
if
you
don't
have
any
income
right,
you
have
to
raise
the
price
and
with
with
minimal
numbers.
The
last
thing
I
would
say
that
the
league
would
want
to
do
is
raise
the
price
when
some
leagues
actually
are
are
free.
You
know,
and
unfortunately,
we're
not
in
a
situation
to
do
that.
I
I
Say
that
exactly
so
the
families
that
we
service,
of
course
you
know
groton,
town,
o'grad
and
city
of
groton,
they're,
median
almost
towards
the
poverty
line
on
somehow
some
some
families.
We
do
to
allow
those.
As
you
know,
we
are
an
outlet
for
the
youth
we
want.
We
don't
want
to
turn
anybody
away
just
because
of
finances,
so
we
do
through
the
donations.
I
We
do
offer
scholarships
for
those
families
that
can't
afford
it.
So
it's
not
just
like
I
said
we're
open
to
everybody.
We
try
to
make
it
possible
for
everybody
to
be
able
to
play.
We
do
recognize
that
our
league
for
some
of
the
kids
is
the
only
other
that
they
have
for
mentors
for
friends,
for
just
to
be
out
of
their
situation
for
two
hours.
I
A
E
Thank
you
thank
you
for
coming.
I
know
that
all
of
us
have
talked
about
before
in
other
councils
things.
You
know,
kids
were
kind
of
cooped
up
during
covet
and
we
all
are
in
favor
of
more
outside
activities,
promoting
your
organization
as
well
as
the
little
league,
and
all
of
that,
so
I
have
a
few
questions
actually
for
the
finance
director.
J
K
We
did
it
in
20
or
it
was
in
september
of
2019.
It
was
450.
I
E
Okay
and
then
how
much
is
left
in
our
fund.
K
B
E
Correct
and
do
we
have
any
other
donation
requests
currently
in
the
pipeline.
K
A
We
have
done
that
in
the
past,
where
we've
stipulated
that
the
money
go
to
city
kids.
Since
our
ordinance
talk
no
is
resolution.
Thank
you
talks
about
being
for
the
city.
E
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
think
I
do
think
that
we
should,
you
know
see
if
we
can
get
a
portion
of
at
least
of
our
donation
directed
at
a
scholarship
for
a
city
kid.
But
I
don't
know
that
that
makes
sense
to
preclude
them
from
using
our
money
to
purchase
equipment,
because
that
also
goes
towards
city
kids.
E
I
think,
with
the
amount
that
we
have
left
over,
and
I
know
that
there
have
been
years
where
we
haven't
used
the
whole
amount,
and
it's
not
really.
We
have
a
fund
of
five
thousand
dollars
and
we
don't
always
use
it.
So
I
would
be
in
favor,
because
the
maximum
donation
is
a
thousand
dollars
right
per
correct
in
the
interest
of
not
letting
that
fund
kind
of
just
trickle
over
to
next
year.
Considering
we
don't
have
anything
left
in
the
pipeline
and
the
hardship
that
they
have
because
of
the
helmet
situation.
E
A
I
Yes,
we
have
sent
letters
to
the
town
council,
unfortunately
they're
not
as
benevolent
as
you
guys
are
and
don't
they
feel
that
we
should
just
continue
with
our
fundraising
meetings.
I
Any
they
haven't
been
kind
to
our
request
to
know.
I
F
A
K
A
E
K
I
So
when
we
get
finished
with
all
the
gather,
all
the
donations
come
in,
we
do
we
have
a
facebook
page
and
we
do
thank
our
sponsors
on
our
facebook
page.
We
have
a
website,
so
we
will
be
listed
on
our
website
as
well.
We
have
a
color
run
event
and
we
have
shirts
that
have
all
our
sponsor
clips
on
the
back
of
our
shirts.
So
we
do
have
as
many
opportunities
as
we
can
to
thank
you
and
acknowledge
you
as
our
sponsors,
our
backers.
L
No,
I
well.
I
was
just
going
to
point
out
that
I
liked
your
platinum
and
gold,
but
it
was
platinum
and
then
they
have
the
additional.
You
could
add
additional
children
sponsorships,
but
I'd
rather
go
all
the
way
to
gold,
because
it's
a
little
more
than
one
and
three
sure.
J
Thanks
for
coming,
I
want
to
say
that
my
granddaughter's
a
cheerleader
and
my
grandson's
on
the
football
league,
so
I
appreciate
y'all
it's
a
lot
of
work,
so
I
guess
I'm
looking
at
these
platinum
and
gold
and
so
forth.
I
guess
my
question
is,
I
might
maybe
in
a
cloud
here
so
when
you're
actually
doing
a
scholarship,
is
it
covering
everything
they
need
or
just
the
families
pitching
in
some
and
then
you're
covering
the
rest
are
there's
different
levels
of
scholarships.
B
I
Have
an
opportunity,
if
later
in
the
season
that
they
find
they
need
to
have
a
new
uni
warm-ups
for
the
cheerleader.
They
can
again
apply
for
a
scholarship
for
that
and
we
can
cover
it
then,
as
well.
G
Sorry,
I
filled
out
a
lot
of
grants
lately,
so
I've
had
answers
to
all
these
questions.
The
only
thing
we
require
of
our
football
players
all
equipment
is
given
to
them
the
pads,
the
shoulder
pads,
the
jersey,
their
padded
pants,
their
helmets
mouth
guard,
even
socks.
The
only
thing
that
they
really
need
to
provide
for
themselves
is
a
pair
of
cleats
and
obviously
anything
that
would
go
underneath
to
keep
them
warm
cheerleaders.
It's
a
little
bit
more.
G
We
do
provide
the
shell,
the
leo
their
bloomers,
their
skirts
three
bows,
which
would
be
their
game
bow.
We
do
a
breast
cancer
awareness
bow
and
we
also
do
their
competition,
both
their
own
competition
squad.
They
really
just
have
to
provide
their
warm-ups,
which
I
believe
were
65
last
year
and
a
pair
of
shoes
which
usually
they're
like
20
to
35
dollars
for
cheer
shoes,
but
other
than
that
the
league
takes
on
the
rest
of
that
cost.
We
literally
give
them
everything
they
need
to
participate.
Minus
shoes
for
the
most
part.
J
I
I
The
warm-up
like
so
the
jacket
and
pants
is
about
60,
and
then
the
backpack
itself
is
about
another
40.,
so
for,
if
you're,
starting
off
as
a
brand
new
cheerleader
and
never
chaired
a
day
in
your
life
and
you're.
Coming
on
to
this
chair
squad,
you're
getting
hit
with
100
registration
fee
in
a
couple
of
months,
you
get
hit
with
a
warm-up
and
backpack
of
100,
like
about
100
total
you're,
getting
hit
with
any
new
cheer
shoes.
You
know.
B
I
I
That's
it
but
like
those
are
hard
to
find
you
have
to
order
them
they're,
not
easy
to
come
by
they're,
not
local.
You
have
to
order
them
off
the
website,
but
then,
like
you
said,
you
have
the
competition.
Both
you
have
to
buy
the
cop
tickets,
so
it
does
get
pricey
for
a
first-time
first
season.
Family
football,
not
as
much
as
he's
laughing
at
me,
because
we
do
give
a
lot
for
the
football
players
and
they
don't
have
to
pay
much
for
football.
I
H
Definitely
I
mean
I'm
definitely
a
product
program
mystic,
I
wouldn't
be
where
I
am
today,
if
it
wasn't
for
god,
mystic
falcons.
As
far
as
the
cheerleaders
go
all
my
sister
was
a
cheerleader.
We
definitely
respected
cheerleaders,
but
the
children
program
is
like
top
shelf
and
it's
not
rinky
dink.
When
the
girls
walk
by,
they
know
that's
ground,
mystic
falcons.
You
know-
and
I
will
say
that
over
the
last
10
years
or
so,
especially
since
football
has
dwindled
down
with
the
concussion
things,
and
things
like
that,
cheerleading
has
definitely
run
the
leak.
H
So
to
speak,
you
know.
So
you
know
if
you
know
we're
saying
that
monies
go
to
the
cheerleading,
but
they
basically
are
paying
for
the
guys
too,
so
so
to
speak.
Okay,.
J
J
What
do
you
want
to
call
it
sponsorship
that
you
know
pull
one
of
them
specifically
to
your
market,
for
because
you
can
do
as
many
athletes
as
possible
right
with
the
money?
So
that's
what
I
was
saying,
maybe
if
we
just
do
it
one
and
then
the
balance
there
for
for
the
rest
of
the
student
rest
of
the
athletes.
That
way,
I
feel
like
our
money
would
go
farther
yeah
and.
F
A
E
I
think
the
intent
if
we
could
is
to
do
a
platinum
scholarship
and
then
the
balance
of
the
money
to
be
just
towards
child
sponsorships
for
more
children
up
to
a
thousand
dollars.
Okay,
counselor.
A
J
I
was
thinking
opposite
your
mark,
the
for
the
gold
and
then
use
the
600
for
more
children,
because
you're,
basically
getting
quite
a
bit
as
far
as
us
being
out
there
advertise
so
forth,
and
so
on
really
do
we
really
need
the
company
logo
on
walkathon
shirts?
No,
no,
you
know
so
I
think
we
could
just
minimize
that
and
apply
more
to
children
than
it
is
for
advertisement,
because
I
think
we're
going
to
be
out
there.
I
know
you
guys
are
really
gonna
you
guys.
J
F
J
So
my
question
is,
if
I
may
then,
for
the
company
logo
on
a
walk-a-thon
shirts,
where,
where
do
these
shirts
come
from,
I
don't
really
need
to
know
who
manufacturers
I
mean:
where
do
you
wear
them?
How
many
are
there
so.
I
Each
athlete
will
have
a
shirt
so
you're,
looking
at
maximum
250
shirts
out
there
that
happen.
I
I
J
A
G
H
So
nothing's
on
this,
so
can
we
donate
and
deputy
mayor
deal
of
d
depot
deal?
Did
you
go
back
on
vacation?
I
guess
depot
said
that
we
give
a
thousand
dollars
correct
right.
Could
we
give
you
a
thousand
dollars
vote
to
give
you
a
thousand
dollars
as
a
council
and
noting
that
things
are
kind
of
fluid?
H
Could
we
get
the
markets
down
as
the
platinum
just
for
purposes
of
just
showing
that
we
were
obviously
a
platinum
provider
and
we
get
the
reap
the
rewards
of
that,
but
you
also
kind
of
issuing
whatever
you
do
necessary
at
the
minimum,
a
minimum
just
to
ask
you
a
minimum.
Could
we
what
is
it
four
or
five
kids
that
we
sponsor
or
whatever
it
is
you
know?
H
Can
we
do
that
that
way,
you're
getting
the
maximum
that
we
can
provide
to
you
we're
also
getting
the
platinum,
but
we're
also
providing
city
kids
with
scholarships,
knowing
that
all
this
is
on
your
end,
yeah.
B
H
A
B
A
E
A
B
B
A
A
I
think
so
so
there
was
no
backup
for
the
gift
report
for
the
gift
card,
but
we
do
have
backup
for
the
the
vehicles.
So
let's
talk
about
the
gift
card.
First.
M
Sure
good
evening,
so
the
gift
card
is
something
that
one
of
my
firefighters
found
that
harbor
freight
has
a
you
know
community
program
where
you
can
apply
for
grants
and
he
asked
the
deputy
deputy
said:
oh
sure,
try
and,
and
so
just
like
that
they
gave
us
a
400
gift
card.
So
we
would
like
to
keep
that
gift
card.
In
order
to
do
that,
we
have
to
come
through
the
council.
M
The
council
has
to
accept
the
donation
we
plan
on
using
it
for
a
large
roll-in
toolbox
for
our
eastern
point
station,
which
takes
up
almost
all
the
four
hundred
dollars.
There's
a
little
bit
of
money
left
over
which
we'll
buy
a
few
tools.
You
know
that
we
that
we
need
to
go
in
the
toolbox,
but
we
do
have
tools.
They
just
aren't
in
a
a
very
organized
toolbox
that
can
move
around
if
we
need
to.
So
that
is
the
first
item.
E
Mayor
depot
kudos
to
the
firefighter
who
thought
of
that,
I
think
you
know
a
lot
of
our
departments
that
are
applicable
for
grants.
Sometimes
it
takes
thinking
outside
the
box
to
get
that
money
and
and
effort.
So
that's
pretty
cool
that
he
recognized
the
availability
of
that.
I
think
it's
always
nice.
When
we
can
do
that,
it
sounds
like
that's
a
need.
I
think
it's
probably
pretty
inconvenient,
to
have
your
tools
strewn
about
in
the
firehouse
and
having
be
able
to
move.
A
Any
other
questions
or
comments.
Okay,
hearing
none
I'll.
Take
a
motion
to
move
this
to
the
mayor
and
council
meeting
of
a
correction
of
2
may
2022.
so
move.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
to
second
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
extension
motion
carries
okay,
chief
vehicle
replacement.
M
Yeah-
and
I
should
have
mentioned
actually
allen
van
liu
was
the
firefighter
who
who
found
that
and
and
then
applied.
So
the
the
second
item
is
something
I
think
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
at
my
budget
presentation
and
that
is
to
replace
I'd
like
to
replace
two
vehicles.
The
first
one
is
my
car
on
the
memo
that
I
sent
to
you
it's
listed
as
g1.
M
It
tells
you
the
their
call
sign
and
then
the
make
model
year
and
mileage
of
each
of
those
vehicles.
There's
a
chief
and
deputy's
chief
car,
pretty
obvious.
We
have
a
vehicle,
a
ford
expedition
at
company,
one
which
responds
to
medical
calls
rather
than
having
the
engine
respond
to
those
and
then
at
company
two.
We
currently
have
a
2004
f-350
pickup
that
responds
to
medical
calls.
M
So
we
send
the
two
small
vehicles
with
two
people
to
the
medical
calls
the
last
vehicle
there.
The
ford
expedition
is
not
front
line,
but
it's
used
in
reserve.
I'm
actually
cur
currently
driving
it,
because
my
car
is
in
the
shop
and
it
also
is
loaded
with
boat
equipment,
cold
water
rescue
suits,
and
things
like
that
that
we
would
respond
with
either
it
hooks
up
to
the
boat.
M
That's
that
company
too,
the
smaller
zodiac
that
we
have
and
would
respond,
or
it
will
respond
on
its
own
if
we're
taking
the
larger
20-foot
boat,
which
is
at
company
one.
So
those
are
the
five
vehicles
we
have.
My
vehicle
is,
as
you
can
see,
2012,
and
it
has
a
hundred
and
almost
fifty
thousand
miles
and
currently
is
in
the
shop.
M
So
I
would
like
to
replace
that
vehicle.
We
do
have
funds
in
cip
that
we've
been
putting
away
all
along
to
replace
that
the
other
memo
that
I
gave
to
you
gives
the
overall
costs
of
that
vehicle,
and
then
I
also,
I
believe
I
did
give
you
the
information
from
northwest
hills,
which
is
the
dealership
which
has
the
state
bid
for
the
vehicle.
So
in
essence,
we've
already
rfp'ed
it,
because
it's
it's
gone
through
state
bid.
M
L
M
So
the
lightened
packages
and
I've
had
this
discussion
with
ron.
I
did
receive
two
different
call
up
bids
or
estimates
one
from
a
company
called
fleet
out
of
north
haven.
I
think
it
is
that
this
dealership,
the
state
dealership
uses
that
was
about
five
thousand
dollars
more
than
what
you're
seeing
here.
This
bid
was
from
a
company
called
gns
out
of
willow
manic.
Captain
kenickie
did
a
lot
of
this
work.
For
me,
he
also
deals
with
the
ambulance
and
they
spec
out
ambulances,
and-
and
this
is
who
he
uses.
M
I
do
have
a
call
in
and
they're
working
up
a
bid
with
communications
plus
which
director
euhas
recommended
that's
what
the
police
use,
and
it's
also
there
on
state
bid.
So
if
that
bid
or
that
price
comes
in
lower,
we
would
obviously
use
that
if
it
comes
in
higher.
I
think
then,
at
that
point
the
gns
estimate
is
is
actually
lower
than
the
state
bid.
M
So
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
use
that
in
the
package
in
order
to
move
the
resolutions
forward,
but
the
difference
in
the
amount
really
comes
down
to
a
light
bar.
My
car
does
not
have
a
light
bar
on
it.
The
new
vehicle
will
need
a
light
bar.
We
do
have
and
we
talk
with
the
mayor.
M
Some
of
the
other
vehicles
have
light
bars,
but
the
vehicle
that
is
going
to
be
replaced
at
company
one
is
an
old
police
vehicle
actually
that
we
repurposed
from
the
city,
police
and
the
light
bar
is
pretty
old
and
nowadays
they're
all
led
and
and
modern.
So
the
packages
that
you
see
here
the
difference
is
the
light
bar
the
package
is
basic.
M
M
It
also
comes
with
a
radio
which
is
the
radio
itself
is
three
thousand
dollars.
We
do
have
old
radios,
but
we
are
in
the
process
of
going
to
the
state
radio.
I
think
you've
dealt
with
that
with
the
police.
M
We
have
actually,
as
a
community,
put
in
for
a
grant
through
a
fire
grant
for
to
upgrade
to
the
state
radios,
and
that
is
a
rotten
wide.
So
it's
ourselves
aquatic
bridge,
no
inc.
All
that
all
the
fire
departments
in
the
town
are
part
of
that.
We
actually
spearheaded
that
and
deputy
chief
sergeant
did
a
lot
of
work
with
that
we're
in
the
waiting.
You
know
it's
it's
filed,
and
now
you
have
to
wait
until
they
let
you
know
if
you
receive
that
grant.
M
So
there
is
a
possibility
if
we
receive
that
grant
that
we
could
back
that
three
thousand
dollars
out,
because
we
did
in
the
grant
put
in
for
radios,
mobile
radios
and
portables,
but
three
thousand
dollars
of
that
cost,
because
I
was
a
little
shocked.
Myself
is
literally
just
the
radio
and
it
has
to
be
a
dual
a
dual
band,
because
we
have
to
use
it
now
and
it
has
to
be
able
to
convert
then
to
the
state
frequency
which
is
different
from
what
we're
using
now
we're
in
the
400
megahertz.
M
And
then
we've
got
to
be
in
the
seven
800
megahertz
again
technical
stuff.
But
that's
where
a
lot
of
that
cost
is
so
did
I
answer
your
question.
Yeah.
E
M
E
So
my
other
question
is
replacing
these
two
vehicles
still
keeps
us
on
track
to
replace
the
other
ones
in
a
timely
manner.
You
don't
have
a
there's,
not
gonna,
be
an
issue
with
funding.
You
have
enough
in
your
vehicle
replacement
fund
to
replace
these
and
still
be
on
track
to
replace
the
other
vehicles
in
a
timely
manner
on
schedule.
E
N
M
And
engine
are
very
expensive,
but
in
the
last
few
years
you
have
put
in
200
000
this
year,
200
last
year,
150
000,
I
believe
the
year
before
that
total
a
large
portion
of
that
was
going
for
the
large
vehicles.
There
was
some
money
for
smaller
small
vehicles,
and
I
think
I
talked
about
the
scott
air
packs
bottles
that
we've
been
putting
away
for
the
last
three
years.
That'll
come
due
next
year.
D
Chief,
you
also
have
a
time
frame
also
to
make
sure
this
gets
done.
You
know
with
the
discount,
I
guess
is
there?
Is
that
part
of
that?
Where
you,
if
you
don't
order
them
now,
you
may
not
get
that
price
later.
M
I,
if
you
look
at
the
pricing,
you'll,
see
some
up
pricing
for
floor
mats.
My
car
does
have
a
remote
start,
you'll
also
see
2000.
I
think
eighty
dollars
that
is,
according
to
the
dealer,
the
cars,
the
word
they
got.
The
cars
were
going
to
be
the
same,
but
they
were
going
to
be
two
thousand
and
eighty
dollars
more
than
than
the
list
price.
M
M
What
we're
being
told
yes?
But
it's
the
lead
time
to
get
the
vehicle
that
is
really
pressing
with
the
age
and
mileage
of
the
other
vehicles,
and
I
think
when
director
juha
spoke
of
the
350
or
somewhere,
that's
not,
including,
hopefully
the
200
000
that
is
earmarked
this
year.
That
would
go
in
that.
For
that.
K
I
believe
that
includes
the
fiscal
2022..
It
does
not
include
the
twenty-four.
J
M
M
J
M
Have
found,
I
think,
with
a
lot
of
base
warranties
that
if
I
had
to
guess
I'd
say
it's
probably
360
000,
but
that
doesn't
probably
will
get
you
nothing
in
the
warranty
world
because
they
write
things
like
that.
To
make
it
look
good,
but
the
reality
is,
it
doesn't
really
cover
anything
and
it
doesn't
cover,
wear
and
tear
and
then
there's
it's
prorated
per
miles
and
all
those
other
crazy.
J
J
M
J
M
Well,
we
we
do
auction
off
our
old
vehicles,
so
these
vehicles
would
probably
get
auctioned
off.
Like
I
said,
we
do
have
one
vehicle
that
we
have
in
reserve.
M
We
would
decide
when
we
get
to
the
next
vehicle,
we'll
get
into
a
little
bit
more
if
we
would
keep,
because
we
have
four
front
line
vehicles,
one
that
we
have
loaded
with
ready
to
respond
with
equipment
and
then
that's
it,
so
I'm
driving
that
car
right
now,
so
all
of
the
boat
and
cold
water,
rescue
suits
and
stuff
those
are
in
that
vehicle.
M
M
No,
we
we
we
own
all
the
vehicles
we
have,
so
we
buy
new
ones,
but
we
don't.
We
try
not
to
keep
a
lot
of.
A
A
M
Right,
excuse
me
so
g16
the
vehicle
is
pretty
much
identical.
The
features
are
a
little
bit
different.
Like
I
said
mine
had,
it
did
have
a
remote
start
and
it
has
the
safety
features,
which
is
you
know
when
you
switch
lanes.
It
tells
you
there's
somebody
there
and
stuff
like
that.
We
won't
have
that
on
the
response
vehicle,
but
they
will
have
front
hooks
to
to
use
in
case
of
emergencies,
to
anchor
as
anchor
points
so
a
few
years
ago
we
kind
of
changed
the
way
we
operated
in
the
fire
department.
M
We
used
to
operate
two
engines
and
a
ladder
truck
front
line
response,
but
we
only
have
four
people,
so
we
modified
that
and
we
now
respond
with
an
engine
and
a
ladder
truck
and
then
the
two
smaller
vehicles
that
I've
been
talking
about.
M
So
in
the
case
of
an
emergency
for
a
medical,
we
just
send
the
smaller
vehicles
with
the
two
people
and
then,
if
it's
any
type
of
fire
call
accident
has
its
materials,
we
send
the
engine
and
the
ladder
with
two
people
on
each
much
safer
to
operate
the
big
equipment
with
two
people
riding
in
it.
M
What
that
does
is
that
moved
the
older
of
our
frontline
engines
into
reserve
our
reserve
engine?
Actually,
the
engine
blew
and
needed
extensive
work,
and
so
you
see
it
in
the
side
yard.
That
was
part
of
the
reason
we
had
been
toying
with
this,
but
part
of
the
reason
we
went
with
the
new
operation.
M
So
what
that
does
is
it?
It
saves
us
from
buying
two
front
line
pumpers
at
about
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
each
and
a
front
line
ladder
truck
at
1.5,
1.7
million
dollars.
So
that's
a
good
thing,
but
in
order
to
do
that,
we
needed
small
vehicles.
Now
we
always
had
a
small
vehicle.
We
didn't
really
run
it
regular
and
we
moved
that.
M
That's
this
vehicle
here,
it's
an
old
police
vehicle
and
it
has
very
high
mileage,
and
then
we
took
our
pickup
truck
that
we
use
for
plowing
and
for
you
know
things
you
use
a
pickup
truck
for
and
we
put
that
into
frontline
service.
M
That
is
the
truck
you
see
with
2004.
I
think
it
has
46
000
miles.
That's
why?
Because
it's
used
mostly
for
running
around
and
for
plowing,
so
the
motor
has
low
mileage,
the
body,
the
rear
body
rotted
off
it.
Actually,
so
we
removed
it
and
took
a
body
from
the
old
old
chief
car,
which
was
actually
a
pickup
truck.
We
took
that
bed
off
and
put
it
on
to
g26,
to
give
it
new
life
and-
and
now,
though,
it's
running
front
line.
M
What
I'd
like
to
do?
I've
talked
to
the
mayor.
I've
talked
to
director
juhas
I'd
like
to
order
that
vehicle
now
and
then,
as
you
make
your
deli,
you
know
decide
on
what
we're
going
to
do
with
arpa
money.
If
that
is
one
of
the
projects
that's
going
to
be
funded,
we
would
be
able
to
basically
back
the
resolution
out
with
the
funding
in
the
cip,
which
we
have
money,
because
we've
been
saving
for
two
ladder,
two
engines
and
a
ladder
truck.
M
So
we
would
just
take
some
of
the
money
for
the
other
engine
which
we
do
not
need
to
replace
now
and
use
it
for
this
vehicle.
But
if
we
decide
to
use
arpa
money
or
you
decide
to
use
our
money,
then
we
would
come
back
with
the
new
resolution
on
just
the
funding
part
of
it,
but
I
could
at
least
I
want
to
order
it
so
that
it's
here
in
december
and
not
you
know,
I
know
we
don't
have
a
decision
and
you're
not
gonna,
have
a
decision.
You're
dealing
with
budget
and
stuff.
A
A
A
A
O
There
we
go
okay,
so
this.
O
O
Okay,
thank
you
so
requesting
approval
to
award
tremble
the
contract
to
support
the
gis
mapping
for
the
city's
municipal
stormwater
system.
This
is
phase
one
okay.
This
money
was
approved
and
appropriated
for
the
fiscal
year
ending
2022
budget,
so
it
is
available
right
now.
This
will
be
phase
one.
This
part
will
be
including
creating
the
asset
database
for
all
of
the
components
within
the
municipal
stormwater
system,
for
example,
catch
basins,
piping,
culverts,
isolation,
points
outfalls.
O
All
of
this
will
be
created
from
grabbing
the
cad
files
that
we
have
and
any
excel
files
that
we
have
and
creating
a
whole
new
database
for
all
of
this
stisl
right.
O
O
This
is
all
a
best
management
practice,
so
this
is
truly
part
one
and
then,
for
fiscal
year,
ending
2023.
We
requested
an
additional
sixty
thousand.
That
part
is
phase
two,
and
that
is
where
we
include.
We
incorporate
the
trimble
piece
with
cityworks
and
that
becomes
the
the
whole
system.
So
cityworks
really
is
the
work
order
management
system
where
we
generate
the
pms.
O
We
capture
all
of
the
history
from
the
assets,
all
of
our
water
inspections,
all
our
sampling
and
everything
like
that
will
go
into
city
works,
but
this
request
here
is
for
just
under
25
000,
that
is
to
create
the
data,
the
database
and
then
to
also
create
the
digitized
mapping.
Okay,
the
trimble
piece
we
already
have
in
place.
It
uses
that
trimble,
for
I
think,
gu
uses
it.
The
town
also
uses
it
as
well,
and
they
already
have
this
whole
system
established
we're
kind
of
getting
caught
up.
Okay,.
A
Questions
for
director
robarts,
okay,
I'll,
take
a
motion
to
move
this
to
the
mayor
and
council
meeting
of
may
2nd
2022
so
move.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
a
second
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,.
B
A
P
So
good
evening,
everyone
I'm
here
to
talk
to
a
number
of
things
with
you
guys
tonight,
but
first
and
foremost,
I
wanted
to
turn
the
floor
over
to
the
consultant
from
interface
studios
that
helped
us
with
the
visioning
theme
street
project.
We
are
at
the
completion
of
the
work
with
the
consultant
group.
This
has
been
a
six
month
process.
It's
been
very
enlightening.
P
Q
Please
see
my
screen
all
right,
yes,
perfect!
Thank
you
before
we
start.
We
just
wanted
to
say
that
today's
presentation
summarizes
over
six
months
of
continuous
work,
but
the
department
of
planning
and
economic
development,
with
preservation
connecticut
with
our
colleagues
at
many
group
partners
who
were
in
charge
of
the
economic
aspect
of
this
plan
and,
of
course,
of
that
intricate
studio
who
ran
the
analysis
and
and
bringing
into
the
same
findings
that
culture.
Q
From
the
beginning
of
this
project,
it
was
clear
that
the
objective
of
the
placemaking
action
plan
for
king
street
was
implementation.
Q
Q
A
space
and
also
a
strategy
where
we
could
receive
public
input
and
transform
those
ideas
into
actionable
recommendations
that
could
be
could
be
developed
along
the
corridor.
Q
As
I
mentioned,
this
project
took
place
over
six
months
and
it
did
center
around
public
engagement
events.
Probably
some
of
you
joined
us
in
in
many
of
those
one
of
them
was
in
person
at
least
you
park,
and
the
other
two
were
virtual.
Q
You
receive
great
feedback
but,
most
importantly,
we're
able
to
build
on
top
of
different
ideas
and
truly
scale
up
whatever
ideas
we
receive
and
flush
them
out
into
very
tangible
recommendations.
Q
This
is
not
the
first
time
that
us
consultants
have
been
working
here
in
groton.
Actually,
this
plan
establishes
a
continuum
from
the
2019
building
connection
study,
which
was
more
focused
on
free
development
along
the
corridor.
But
two
main
things
to
consider
that
we
brought
into
this
plan
were
strategies
regarding
how
to
make
thane
street
a
waffle,
historic
corridor
and
how
to
enhance
it
truly
as
a
public
community
and
a
public
destination.
Q
And
in
many
ways,
the
physical
improvement
aspect
of
the
plan
is
very
interrelated
to
the
longer
term
objective
of
economic
growth
along
the
corridor,
and
we
say
that
this
is
interrelated
because,
as
we
improve
the
physical
conditions
and
overall,
as
we
improve
the
experience
on
the
corridor,
we
can
bring
more
people
to
main
street
and
hence
we
can
create
and
strengthen
an
environment
that
supports
more
investments.
In
the
longer
term.
Q
We
don't
only
think
about
place,
making
in
terms
of
improving
or
beautifying
making
storefronts,
but
also
in
terms
of
bringing
vibrancy
to
the
street
and
really
home
toning
into
this
idea
of
bay
street
as
a
destination
not
only
for
residents
but
also
for
for
visitors
in
the
region.
Q
Q
Project
a
very
hands-on
plan,
one
of
the
things
that
were
part
of
this
plan
at
the
beginning
was
to
really
make
this
a
proof
of
concept
of
what
was
possible
and,
in
particular,
things
in
park
served
as
the
site.
For
that
to
to
happen.
This
was
from
our
first
public
engagement
event.
Q
In
october
of
last
year,
we
heard
about
the
things
the
overall
people
share
ideas
of
what
they'd
like
to
see
on
the
corridor,
not
only
more
businesses
and
more
variety
of
businesses,
but
also
improving
accessibility
along
the
corridor
rehabilitating
vacant
properties,
and
there
was
also
mention
of
parking
mostly
related
to
how
can
the
experience
of
approaching
the
corridor
being
made
friendlier
for
better
and
what
we
heard
was
not
only
related
to
the
corridor
as
a
whole,
but
also
several
different
assets
along
it.
Q
Among
them
was
things
you
park,
which
is
one
of
two
public
assets
or
public
parks
along
the
amount
of
pay
street,
and
this
is
related
to
how
people
not
only
currently
use
the
part,
but
also
how
they
would
like
to
use
it
and,
as
you
can
see,
people
selected
the
sites
where
they'd.
Like
things
to
happen,
such
as
programming
and
public
art,
activating
waterfront
amenities,
having
spaces
for
different
open-ended
activities
and
more
training,
amongst
others,.
Q
And
at
the
end
of
the
day,
while
collecting
all
of
these
recommendations,
everything
boiled
down
to
five
different
themes
or
five:
broader
categories,
those
being
pedestrian
experience,
physical
improvements
and
facilities,
public
art,
beautification
and
weight
funding,
programming
and
events
and
management
and
recommendations,
so
the
entire
transformation
of
things
street
or
division
of
industry.
Q
It
actually
happens
as
a
whole.
Throughout
these
five
different
categories,.
Q
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
one
of
the
steps
that
we
took
in
this
plan
was
to
identify
which
sites
would
be
priority
in
terms
of
streetscape
improvements,
and
this
came
from
both
the
public
engagement
process
and
also
areas
where
there
were
things
already
underway
or
that
were
already
identified
as
priority
assets
and
in
general
terms,
there
were
two
aims
in
terms
of
implementation.
Q
One
was
improving
the
pedestrian
experience,
which
was
not
only
limited
to
streets,
streetscape
improvements,
but
also
more
access
to
the
waterfront
and
then
specific
activation
sites,
of
which,
in
the
short
term,
we'll
talk
about
same
state
park
specifically.
Q
As
I
mentioned,
thank
you
park
is
one
of
two
public
spaces
along
the
corridor
that
actually
offers
an
opening
towards
the
waterfront,
so
that
was
part
of,
I
believe,
one
of
the
assets
or
the
positive
aspects
of
the
experience
along
the
corridor.
Q
Other
aspects
that
we
looked
into
related
to
the
congestion
experience
were
the
conditions
from
sidewalks,
including
including
the
street
section
at
what
that
meant
for
pedestrian
accessibility,
as
well
as
markers,
signage
or
other
characteristics
along
the
corridor
that
spoke
to
the
corridor's
identity
and
how
that
could
be
highlighted
through
different
place.
Making
strategies.
Q
In
terms
of
also
public
art
and
storefront
activation,
we
identified
that
there
were
already
efforts
from
private
property
owners
underway
to
have
or
show
some
of
the
history
with
the
photos
on
their
storefronts.
Q
Friendlier
experience
along
the
corridor,
there
is
an
opportunity
to.
We
have
really
and
preserve
them.
Many
of
them
actually
still
have
their
original
features,
so
there
is
an
opportunity
there
to
preserve
and
renovate
the
facades,
as
well
as
bringing
more
savage
and
green
finding
to
the
cork
north.
Q
Q
Q
This
is
more
or
less
the
vision
and
some
of
the
strategies
that
the
public
brought
to
the
table
and
we
were
able
to
imagine
what
that
would
look
like.
Q
And
not
only
related
to
the
main
course
of
activity
between
broad
and
baker,
but
also
how
those
interventions
could
look
in
relation
to
existing
public
assets
like
easy
part.
Q
Something
that's
important
to
mention-
and
this
was
also
during
our
events
in
october-
is
how
things
you
park.
During
the
event,
we
were
able
to
see
that
it
could
be
a
successful
space
for
events,
not
only
events,
but
that
it
could
also
become
an
amenity
for
the
community
for
local
business
owners.
Q
So
it
really
pushed
the
message.
The
message
forward
in
terms
of
how
can
we
create
also
a
better
experience
on
things
we
park
in
relation
to
the
water
treatment
plan,
and
so
as
a
product
of
the
community
engagement
process,
we
developed
an
overall
plan
for
kmg
park.
This
includes
torture
me
in
terms
of
long-term
strategies
overall,
and
this
was
product
not
only
of
our
community
engagement,
but
also
as
part
of
conversations
with
different
parties
involved,
including
personal
creation.
Q
The
department
of
public
works,
things
for
heritage
park
and
so
on.
So
it
truly
is
a
collection
of
strategies
that
are
either
underway
or
that
or
where
conversations
and
discussions
have
already
been
started.
Q
Again,
we
identify
short-term
improvements
for
fantasy
parks,
specifically
both
the
upper
level
and
lower
level,
and
three
of
the
community
priorities,
of
course,
involve
the
water
treatment
plant.
Currently
your
neighbor
to
thank
street
park,
how
how
you
can
get
a
better
neighbor,
also
including
seating
options
and
incorporating
more
landscaping,
but,
in
general,
everything
with
the
aim
of
making
this
already
beautiful
space
with
a
beautiful
view.
Q
Again,
the
way
we
approach
things
you
park,
there
were
different
strategies
for
the
lower
and
upper
level,
but
in
general
they
share
similar
strategies,
seeing
of
course,
but
also
better
relationship
to
the
waterfront
and
the
lower
level,
and
then,
in
the
other
level,
really
just
taking
advantage
of
all
the
assets
that
that
space
already
provides
providing
seating
so
that
this
can
be
strengthened
as
a
public
asset
from
which
you
can
view
the
waterfront
and
also
continue
to
carry
options.
Q
And
finally,
today
we
shared
some
of
the
short-term
strategies
that
we've
heard.
Some
of
them
have
already
been
brought
to
action,
but
it
also
includes
the
comprehensive
implementation
guide
which
identifies
me
in
terms
and
long-term
strategies
within
those
five
things
that
we
intensify
and,
of
course
there
are
still
continued
areas
for
exploration
such
as
history
or
launch,
which
we
also
identify.
P
You
thank
you
so
much
maria
for
that
presentation
and
we
can
open
it
up
for
questions
from
the
accounts.
E
I
just
want
to
say
I
know
a
lot
of
us
have
been
on
the
council
and
some
longer
than
me
that
we've
been
trying
to
think
of
what
to
do
for
theme
street
or
things
have
come
up.
I
know
that
residents
have
asked
before
what
the
plan
is
for
same
street
and,
in
my
opinion,
being
a
lifelong
resident,
we've
kind
of
sometimes
we
put
band-aids
on
on
things,
but
we
haven't
had
a
push
for
anything
that
will
significantly
improve
and
kind
of
be
sustainable
change
for
theme
street.
E
So
I
know
that
this
has
been
a
long
term
project,
but
I'm
my
hope,
and
what
I
respond
to
residents
with-
is
that
we
are
making
the
plan
better.
So
the
implementation
actually
works,
because
there's
some
things
on
theme
street,
that
kind
of
look
nice,
but
there's
nothing
holistic
that
we've
done
that
could
possibly
change
the
economic
status
of
that
road.
So
I
appreciate
all
the
work.
E
I
think
this
is
a
good
example
of
all
the
work
that's
gone
into
it
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
the
before
and
after
potential
pictures
is
really
helpful,
because
I
know
for
some
of
us
it's
hard
to
envision
what
possibly
could
go
there.
E
E
Is
it
possible
so
obviously
there's
a
long
presentation?
Is
it
possible
to
do
some
like
highlighting
of
like
those
potential
before
and
afters
and
do
like
separate
posts,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
residents
aren't
going
to
look
through
this
whole
packet
to
see
that
those
things,
but
I
think
that
those
are
really
impactful
so
yeah.
Those
so
do
separate
posts.
E
Drifted
into
the
potential
of
what
we
could
put
there,
I
think
those
are
really
impactful
and
even
for
people
who
might
have
ideas
and
didn't
share
them.
Yet
might
that
might
you
know
yeah
make
them
want
to
do
that,
but
yeah?
I
think
I
think
those
those
before
and
afters
are
really
impactful,
and
I
think
that
would
be
cool
to
highlight
those
for
people
who
might
not
have
the
time
to
go
through
the
whole
presentation.
Absolutely.
A
P
And
also
just
to
note,
there
is
a
display
of
this
entire
report
out
in
the
foyer
of
the
municipal
building
and
it
will
be
on
display
for
the
next
couple
weeks.
There
are
comment
cards
that
people
can
add
if,
like
counselor
people
was
just
mentioning.
If
there
are
other
comments
that
you
want
to
have-
or
you
just
didn't,
have
the
opportunity
to
provide
your
feedback.
P
There
are
comment
cards
out
there,
so
they
can
physically
do
that,
and
staff
is
in
the
works
to
upload
this
entire
project
in
our
process
onto
the
greater
groton
community
engagement
website.
So
there
are
flyers
out
there
just
to
encourage
people
to
start
to
sign
up
for
that.
So
once
that
transfer
happens,
everyone
can
be
all
on
the
same
page.
E
If
a
business
were
to
say
I'm
interested
in
applying
for
the
facade
grant
or
I'm
interested
in
improving
the
side
of
my
building.
But
I
don't
know
what
to
do.
Do
we
have
resources
to
either
point
them
to
a
person,
or
do
we
have
resources
in-house
that
can
go
well.
You
could
put
a
sign
here
that
would
look
like
this,
for
maybe
those
those
business
owners
that
might
not
know
what
to
do
to
improve
their
facade,
but
they
want
to.
P
That
makes
sense,
it
does
make
sense,
and
I
recommend
property
owners
and
business
owners
to
come
and
meet
with
leslie
and
myself,
and
we
kind
of
would
walk
them
through
one
the
application
process
and
also
what
are
some
of
those
possibilities,
and
we
will
also
bring
in
building
and
zoning
depending
on
what
that
improvement
may
be,
so
that
they
can
have
that
support
as
well.
Thank
you.
P
D
Maria,
how
would
you,
as
far
as
screening
the
water
treatment
plant,
I
saw
shrubbery
and
so
forth?
How
high
would
that
have
to
go
to
sort
of
impede
the
vision
or
try
to
minimize
the
vision
of
the
water
treatment
plant
as
much
as
possible?
What
type
of
vegetation
of
some
kind.
P
Maria,
do
you
want
me
to
take
this
one
yeah
so
with
this
work,
public
works
and
grant
utilities
has
already
started
to
look
into
screening
of
the
pfa
facility,
and
they
are
looking
from
my
understanding
at
arborvities,
which
are
pretty
tall
to
do
that
covering,
and
I
believe
it's
75
arborvitae
trees
to
to
cover
the
whole
front
and
onto
the
side.
P
A
So
we've
talked
about
doing
that
basically
welcome
home,
and
that
kind
of
thing
you
know
give
them
something
to
look
at
on
the
way
in
and
that
way
when
they
see
that
they
know
they're
almost
there.
But
there
are
things
that
we
are
actively
looking
at
now
to
try
to
either
one
blend
it
in
or
to
hide
it
so
that
it's
not
an
eyesore
flag
for
a
better
term.
I
mean
it
is
industrial,
we're
trying
to
blot
those
edges.
H
Good
job
I
this
is
the
appreciate,
the
the
the
effort,
many
months
of
work,
the
thames
view
and
the
other
access
points
or
whatever
that
we
have
to
see
the
the
river.
I
think
that
I
think
that's
great
and
I
I
do
think
that
that's
kind
of
like
a
I
mean
it's
a
large
project,
but
I
think
that's
something
that's
that
needs
to
be
done.
That's
at
the
minimum
right,
but
you
know
living
in
new
england.
H
That's
I
mean
the
type
of
activity
is
what
maybe
six
six
months
or
half
half
of
the
year.
Where
you
know
our
park
is
going
to
attract
people
and
kind
of
keep
people
and
sustain
people,
you
know,
but
we
still
have
half
of
the
year.
So
my
question
would
be
once
this
is
implemented
and
once
it's
done,
because
I
am
a
big
proponent
on
you
know,
if
you,
if
we
do
what
we
can
do
as
a
city.
B
O
H
You
know
cutting
their
hedge
and
keeping
things
from
growing
to
where
we
can't
see
the
river.
Is
that
something
that
we've
or
you
that
we
have
you
guys
thought
about,
and
is
that
something
that
we're
gonna
be
once
this
is
done
like?
What's
the
next
phase,
you
know.
B
H
What
are
we
going
to
say
or
what
are
you
going
to
what's
the
approach?
Do
you
know
the
approach
as
far
as
getting
the
businesses
down
there,
because,
right
now
you
know
it's
getting
nice,
but
that's
only
going
to
last
till
what
october
or
so
you
know
so,
what's
going
to
keep
and
what's
going
to
attract
people
down
to
the
to
thame
street
or
to
thames
view
park,
besides
the
the
beautiful
view,
no.
P
Beautiful
news,
so
I
just
want
to
mention
that
economic
development
is
a
community
effort.
It's
going
to
take
the
municipality,
the
po,
the
private
sector
and
also
the
our
local
organizations
just
to
make
all
that
activity
thrive.
So
our
approach
right
now
is
now
that
we've
done
this
extensive
community
outreach.
We've
worked
with
the
department
heads
to
kind
of
come
up
with
a
shared
vision
of
what
the
desires
and
goals
are
currently
for
thame
street
to
continue
to
work
on
those
plans
with
our
active
players,
but
also
start
to
invite
exit
potential.
P
Other
businesses
here
as
well
to
experience
thame
street
for
itself,
because
there's
a
number
of
businesses
that
reach
out
to
me
looking
for
space,
not
all
space
that
is
available
in
the
city
of
granton,
is
actually
on
a
commercial
listing.
So
the
idea
is
to
be
able
to
start
to
create
experiences
where
these
individuals
can
connect,
whether
it's
with
a
property
owner
or
a
business
or.
P
Business
entrepreneur
is
kind
of
connecting
and
saying
they
want
to
start
a
spin-off
of
something,
but
those
activations
kind
of
start
with
the
beautification
programming
the
space
and
then
bringing
those
connections
together.
Does
that
make
sense?
Am
I.
H
P
H
Agree-
and
I
agree-
I
think
that's
the
bare
minimum
we
should
do.
I
mean
we
can't
force
businesses
to
go
down
there.
We
can
only
I
mean
yeah.
We
can't
do
that,
but
but
we
can
set
it
up
for
it
to
be
a
great
great
location
right.
B
H
But
what
I'm
saying
is
that
I
I
think
it
it,
and
this
is
not
my
lane.
I
don't
know
right,
you
know,
but
it
has
been
several
years
of
the
whole
korea
waiting
for
you
know.
What
are
we
going
to
do?
What
are
we
going
to
do?
Do?
Does
the
city,
do
you
know,
do
we
have
to
take
that
extra
approach
to
actually
call
people
to
a
table
and
sit
down
and
say
this
is
what
we
have
to
offer?
This
is
what
we
can
do,
or
do
we
have
to
look?
B
P
B
P
H
Certainly
and
then
my
my
last
thought
was:
do
we
want
to
or
do
you
want
to,
because
I
probably
could
be
here,
you
know
down
the
road
and
what
I've
seen
even
more
recently.
More
recently
is
we
have
you
know
we
have
some
residents
that
want
development,
they
want
something
new
right,
but
then
we
have
some
residents
that
are
kind
of
like
reluctant
and
like
okay,
I
want
to
kind
of
you
know.
H
I've
been
here
for
60
or
70
years,
and
I
don't
want
anything
changed
you
know
is:
is
there
something
that
we
could
do
to
to
to
bridge
the
gap
in
between?
You
know
some
of
these?
You
know
and
I'm
thinking
and
just
from
what
I
know
just
as
a
council
member,
you
know
the
people
that
I
engage
with.
Are
you
know
a
certain
population
right,
a
certain
section.
You
know
on
people
that
have
been
here,
you
know
it
tends
to
be
the
the
older
resident
right,
they're
more
engaged
and
are
coming
to
meetings.
H
B
H
B
K
H
I
think
once
we
for
what
I've
seen
in
the
past
few
years,
we
get
to
a
certain
certain
phase,
you
know
and
change,
and
you
know,
there's
kickback,
you
know.
So
what
are
we
going
to
do
as
far
as
just
things
to
think
about?
You
know
to
stop
that
from
happening.
There's
a
lot
of
work
that
that
we'll
know
there's
there's
work
that
gets
done
and
then
it's
kind
of
like
okay.
We
don't
want
this
done.
You
know
no.
P
E
Counselor
carter's
comments
just
made
me
think
of
this.
The
the
grind,
I
believe,
is
the
town's
economic
development
committee
either
is
having
or
just
had
a
business
roundtable.
E
So
maybe
in
the
same
way
that
we
have
reached
out
for
engagement
to
residents,
we
could
do
a
separate
thing,
because
business
owners
aren't
probably
going
to
come
to
a
resident
engagement
event
because
it's
not
for
them,
but
maybe
the
thing
a
thing
we
could
do
is
some
kind
of
business
engagement
event,
that's
not
targeted
towards
residents
but
targeted
towards
business
owners
and
seeing
as
the
town
economic
development
team
has
maybe
done,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
there
I
just
saw
the
listing
for
it,
but
I
didn't
look
into
like
what
exactly
their
goals
for
that
session
were,
but.
B
E
Kind
of
copy
their
homework
and
ask
them
how
that
went,
and
maybe
we
can
do
something
similar,
because
I
would
imagine,
as
a
business
owner
that
might
draw
you
to
go
mingle
with
other
business
owners,
would
maybe
draw
you
in
more
than
just
a
community
event.
Does
that
make
sense?
Okay,
I
think
that
might
be
a
good
idea
and.
B
E
Might
accomplish
what
council
carter's
saying,
which
is
find
out
how
they
we
can
get
their
goals
to
fit
in
with
the
community
goals
that
we've
already
put
in
place,
and
it
would
be
an
exhibition
of
that.
We
have
done
a
lot
of
work
toward
with
the
community
already,
and
it
would
be
more
welcoming
for
their
business,
seeing
that
we
have
all
those
things
in
place.
G
A
So
I
think
this
is
the
most
community
engagement
that
we've
done
in
a
long
time.
One
of
the
challenges
we've
run
into
is
that
the
city
of
greitens
still
doesn't
know
what
she
wants
to
be
when
she
grows
up.
You
talk
to
some
people
and
they're
like
we
want
to
keep
theme
streak
quaint,
which
means
don't
do
anything,
but
I
want
to
complain
about
the
stuff
that
we
haven't
done
and
then
other
people
say
nope.
A
We
want
to
bring
businesses
in,
we
want
to
revitalize
and
those
kind
of
things
we
are
going
to
continue
with
community
engagement
and
and
one
of
the
things
that
got
brought
up
tonight
is
not
just
with
the
residents
about
what
they
want
and
what
they'll
what
they
will
support,
but
also
with
the
with
the
businesses
and
those
kinds
of
things
we
do
have
some
owners
down
there
that
I
have
been
working
with
the
owners
either
to
release
some
of
their
properties
or
update
their
properties
and
then
get
the
storefronts
activated
one
of
in.
A
So
there
are
a
couple
that
I'm
talking
to
that
have
been
uncooperative
in
the
past.
They
are
a
little
more
cooperative.
Now,
or
at
least
the
words
say,
they're
cooperative,
I'm
waiting
on
the
actions
to
follow
that
there
have
been
some
permits
that
have
been
drawn
to
reside
some
of
the
properties
there.
A
I
am
trying
to
get
a
couple.
Prime
properties
released
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
either
have
the
owner
fill
it
with
a
store
or
sell
it,
so
that
somebody
else
can
come
in
and
do
that,
I'm
having
those
those
stardos
conversations
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
we're
continuing
those
conversations.
They
are
slow
and
they
are
tedious.
A
The
other
thing
is
blight.
In
the
last
four
years
we
have
stepped
up
our
blight
and
we
have
increased
our
enforcement.
We
are
looking
at
our
blight
ordinance
again
to
strengthen
our
blight
ordinance
and
I'm
looking
at
a
an
ordinance
that
is
in
effect
in
in
florida
that
basically,
if
you
have
a
pro
so
sometimes
people
are
frustrated
because
you
have
a
vacant
property
and
there's
nothing
in
it
and
people
say
well
that's
blight.
Well,
it
doesn't
meet
bite,
so
we
can't
go
after
it.
A
As
far
as
you
got
to
do
this
or
you
got
to
you-
got
to
fix
this
or
you
got
to
fix
that
because
it
doesn't
meet
the
bike
criteria,
what
I
am
looking
at
is
either
an
amend,
an
addendum
to
the
current
ordinance
or
a
new
ordinance
that
talks
about
vacant
properties
and
that,
if
you
do,
if
you
have
vacant
storefronts
and
they
are
not
utilized,
then
there
is
a
cost
for
that
that
and
we're
looking
at
that
we're
looking
at
that
ordinance
we're
looking
at
the
legality
of
that
in
connecticut
to
see.
A
A
Small
d,
meaning
it
doesn't
get,
it
doesn't
get
a
full
hearing
it
doesn't
you
don't
get
to
talk
to
the
public
about
the
pros
and
the
cons
they
and
that's
one
of
the
challenges
that
we
have
is
to?
How
do
you
get
our
projects?
Because
people
are
saying
we
want
to
know
about
this
because
you're
not
telling
us
and
then
when
we
do
tell
them.
We
say:
okay,
we're
thinking
about
this
nope.
You
can't
do
it.
A
But
I
will
tell
you
that
I
have
had
developers
talk
to
me
and
with
recent
events
that
have
occurred
in
the
town
and
in
the
city.
Developers
are
hesitant
to
reach
out
because
of
the
city,
and
the
town
is
ready
to
do
business,
but
but
they
don't
know
how
they're
going
to
be
received
by
the
residents
and
therefore
some
of
them
don't
want
to
come
here
and
and
if
you
look
and
people
say
well,
you
know
you're
bringing
in
somebody
from
out
of
state
to
come
in
and
do
development.
A
So,
if
we're
going
to
get
the
economic
development,
some
of
that
is
going
to
have
to
come
from
outside
the
other
challenge
that
we
have
is.
If
you
look
at
the
city
of
groton,
is
we
are
developed
right?
There's
not
a
lot
of
open
space
land
where
you
can
just
go
pump
down
something.
So
what
we're
going
to
need
to
do
in
order
to
change
in
order
to
move
forward?
A
That
is
now
off
the
table
for
that
so,
but
there
are
other
opportunities
that
we
have
down
there:
the
the
one
restaurant
one
of
the
things
we
have
is
we
have
a
grant
from
the
connecticut
port
authority
to
rebuild
those
docks.
We
have
eight
26-foot
boat,
docks
that
we
want
to
put
down
there
and
I
would
love
to
see
an
anchor
restaurant
right
there
on
that
end.
A
Adjacent
to
that,
I
have
worked
with
a
restaurateur
who
is
well
known
in
mysik,
and
he
was
in
the
process
of
working
with
someone
when
they,
when
they
were
going
to
buy
the
old
costa
property
and
raise
fish
there,
and
then
that
for
some
reason
or
another
that
whole
deal
fell
south
and
then
he
made
it
made
more
investments
in
misik,
and
so
he
is
on
my
list
to
call
this
year
to
see
if
he's
still
interested
in
coming
here
to
the
city
of
ground.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we're
trying
to
do.
A
A
Well,
if
you
go
back
and
you
look
at
the
some
of
the
stores
that
were
there
in
1950s
it,
those
professions
don't
exist
anymore,
like
when
was
the
last
time
that
men
had
their
buttons
changed
out
for
the
season.
When
was
the
last
time
that
you
got
your
shoes
resold,
you
know
those
kinds
of
things,
and
so
some
of
those
professions
don't
even
happen
anymore
and
then
don't
don't
forget
what
happened
in
50s
and
60s.
There
was
the
move
to
get
out
of
urbanization
to
the
suburbs
right.
A
Everybody
wanted
to
leave
the
towns
and
go
to
the
suburbs,
and
then
what
happened?
We
had
the
development
of
the
advent
of
the
strip
malls
and
then
what
happened
after
that,
the
big
box
stores
and
then
what
happened
after
that
now
we're
dealing
with
the
amazons
of
the
world,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
re-envision
what
theme
streak
can
be
and
what
kind
of
shops
we
can
have
in
theme
street,
because
if
you
go
down
there,
those
houses
were
built
and
they
were
successful.
A
In
that
time.
We're
in
a
different
time,
we
have
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
do
this
so,
but
we
are
actively
engaged
and
we
are
doing
everything
we
can
to
revitalize
the
city
of
groton
in
general,
but
all,
but
we
are
focusing
on
thame
street,
and
this
study
was
a
great
start
and
sierra's
done
a
tremendous
job
in
moving
things
forward.
P
So
some
next
steps
from
this
report
you'll
note
that
you
guys
have
in
your
packet
from
other
things
that
we're
working
on
is
the
minor
facade
improvement
program
that
the
city
of
groton
has.
So
we
really
want
to
promote
that
and
get
that
out
there.
That
is
one
of
the
top
three
short-term
goals
listed
in
that
report.
P
P
So
the
crosswalk,
and
basically
both
of
the
sidewalks
kind
of
extending
to
the
whole
extending
the
length
of
the
park
will
be
included
in
the
sidewalk
chalk
art
for
this
next
installation
to
really
bring
the
light
to
both
sides
of
the
park
and
to
start
to
address
traffic
calming
of
getting
drivers
to
kind
of
slow
down
when
they
come
to
this
intersection.
So
the
pink
area
is
where
that
sidewalk
chalk
installation
would
be.
The
other
things
that
we'll
be
working
on
on
this
year
are
the
planters
and
landscaping.
P
We
are
moving
forward
at
least
planning
economic
development
is
moving
forward
with
local
organizations
to
work
on
programming,
so
the
thames
river
heritage
park
is
doing
a
lot
of
engagement
with
our
historical
sites
and
just
different
programs
between
groton
and
london.
So
we
want
to
expand
that
relationship
on
the
ground
side
and
see
what
we
can
do.
They've
been
eyeing
thames
view
park
as
a
potential
site
for
more
programming,
so
we
just
want
to
work
out
those
details.
P
The
fort
the
fort
griswold
state
park
is
also
going
to
be
doing
some
additional
programming
in
the
summertime,
and
we
want
to
work
with
them
as
well
as
well
as
avery
cop
museum
has
reached
out
to
us
of
there.
They
have
multiple
open
space
parcels
along
thame
street
that
they
want
to
actually
do
something
with
as
well.
So
we
want
to
continue
that
conversation.
P
F
P
So
the
timeline,
so
this
report
is
about
a
one
to
three
year
report
for
time,
wise
wise.
So
the
next
steps
are
implementation
of
those
actions
that
are
noted
in
there,
and
we
want
to
do
that
in
this.
F
B
F
P
Yes,
so
we're
going
to
start,
the
planning
and
economic
development
department
will
start
up
with
community
engagement
for
this
year
in
july.
Right
now,
we're
doing
a
lot
of
the
work
with
getting
everything
on
the
website,
finalizing
the
projects
with
the
consultants
and
then
starting
to
roll
it
out.
So
the
reports
will
be
available
here
at
the
city,
municipal
building
and
we'll
get
bound
versions
for
the
community
members.
F
P
It's
you
yeah,
so
I
mean
if
the
if
the
property
owner
needs
to
get
in
touch
with
like
an
engineer
or
an
architect,
we
that
is
a
separate
service
that
they
would
have
to
look
out
to
do.
We
don't
provide
that
service
here.
Okay,.
A
Another
thing
just
to
try
to
wrap
this
up.
I
am
looking
to
have
food
trucks
and
and
some
sort
of
entertainment,
even
if
I'm
not
a
big
band,
but
even
if
it's
just
an
acoustic
guitar
on
a
saturday
or
sunday
down
at
the
upper
things
view
to
get
people
here.
I
want
my
vision.
My
goal
personally
is
to
get
people
on
the
grass
looking
across
the
water.
A
E
Just
made
me
think
a
really
good
idea.
I
think
the
the
barn
in
the
town
has
had
success
with
an
open
mic
night
which
would
draw
people
because,
whoever
is
playing
all
of
their
friends
are
going
to
come
to
see
them
play.
So.
B
E
B
B
E
In
the
town,
because
it's
a
friend,
it's
friendly
to
amateurs,
to
open
mic,
so
you
don't
have
to
be.
You
know
an
established
group
or
something
like
that.
It's
open
to
anyone.
I
think
that
might
be
kind
of
nice
sure.
D
Sheffield
sierra,
how
about
a
potential
outdoor
business
expo
of
some
sort
down
on
fame
street.
P
I
would
love
to
coordinate
that
I
want
to
work
with
mary
hill
to
see
how
that
farmer's
market
piece
could
possibly
be
supported
down
there.
If
anything
or
if
there
are
other
options
we
can
look
at.
B
P
Okay,
so
for
the
strategic
communications,
this
is
a
housekeeping
item.
We
are.
This
council
has
approved
phase
one
of
this
project
and
you
guys
also
have
approved
funding
for
phase
one
and
phase
two.
This
is
just
the
mou
for
phase
two,
I'm
just
the
final
mou
and
it
kind
of
gives
a
breakdown
of
the
items
that
have
been
underway
and
the
work
that
we're
seeking
to
complete
by
this
june.
E
E
Just
from
your
expertise,
I
know
our
department
is
basically
the
planner
and
the
economic
development
specialist.
Is
this
work
that
we
could
do
without
this
consultant
the
number
of
hours
that
they
put
in
to
helping
us,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
give
people
an
idea
of
how
much
work?
How
many?
How
many
hours
do
you
think
it
would
have,
would
have
taken
you
to
do
or
another
person
to
do
the
work
that
the
consultant
has
done
for
us?
So
far,
does
that
make
sense?
My
question
went
all
over
the
place.
P
It
does,
I
don't
have
a
number
of
hours,
but
I
can
definitely
say
we
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
launch
every
element
of
the
strategic
communication
without
the
support
of
a
brand
manager
and
also
without
the
support
of
our
internal
staff.
There
are
a
lot
of
individuals,
whether
in
the
city
of
groton
or
groton
utilities
that
have
their
hands
in
this
project
and
if
it
wasn't
for
them,
I
mean
we
wouldn't
be
here
and
even
with
the
with
lu
with
losing
joe
rusk,
the
mayor's
assistant.
P
She
was
a
very
instrumental
role
and
then
the
city
clerk
plays
a
very
important
role
in
this,
as
well,
so
to
have
those
two
vague,
those
two
vacancies
internally
as
staff,
we
really
felt
it
and
the
maria
creative
miranda
creative
team
has
really
stepped
up
and
at
providing
us
extra
support
to
make
sure
that
we
get
our
content
together
and
that
we
get
those
newsletters
out
in
a
timely
fashion.
Because,
right
now
we
do
a
general
city
of
grant
newsletter.
P
Bi-Weekly
one
was
issued
today
and
then
we
also
do
a
business
update.
So
every
week
there's
communications
going
out
to
residents
or
business
owners
from
this
building.
So
yes,
I
don't
know,
does
that
answer.
E
Your
yeah
I
just
with
such
a
small
staff.
I
know
it's
hard
to
get
all
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
get
done
in
a
timely
manner.
I
just
want
kind
of
an
idea
of
the
how
important
this
is
to
the
overall
mission,
because
I
I
know
I've
seen
in
the
last
five
years
since
you've
come
on
board
and
even
just
since
the
consultant
has
been
on
board,
it's
there's
a
major
difference
in
our
communications,
in
the
way
that
we
communicate
and
even
just
like
the
branding.
E
Of
keeping
everything
similar
and
easy
to
use,
I
know
that
it's
made
a
big
difference
and
I
notice
it.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
people
understand
that
this
miranda
creative
they
do
a
different
job
than
than
you
and
leslie
do
that
we
couldn't
do
with
the
staff,
just
the
staff
that
we
have,
that.
A
So
we
do
have
other
staff
members
that
are
helping
out,
but
that's
it
they
are
helping.
So
in
most
cases
we
don't
have
the
we
don't
have
the
capacity
when
we
do
have
the
capability
and
in
some
cases
we
don't
have
the
capability
right.
I
mean
it's
like
if
just
think
about
it,
if
you
decided
that
you're
going
to
make
your
own
christmas
cards
this
year
as
opposed
to
getting
somebody
else,
professional,
make
your
christmas
cards
and
look
at
what
you
have
right.
F
P
A
A
P
All
right,
so
sorry,
my
presentation
is
not
in
the
same
order
as
he's
calling
off
so
sorry
for
the
flipping
back
and
forth,
but
the
economic
development
grant
program
policy
and
procedures
have
been
revised.
The
edc
has
looked,
did
a
revision
to
the
grant
amount.
It
originally
was
a
thousand
dollars.
P
P
We
wanted
to
clarify
that
property
owners
are
included
in
the
program.
We
know
that
sometimes
a
business
owner
or
a
property
owner
are
eligible
to
apply
for
the
grant
program.
They
just
can't
be
applying
for
these
same
improvement
or
repair
or
soft
cost
kind
of
thing.
P
E
I
was
just
going
to
say
I
I
like
that
we
are
being
flexible
with
what
seems
to
be
working
and
paying
attention
to
what
maybe
is
a
complication.
I
think
that's
kind
of
in
the
past,
where
we've
struggled
having
old
policies
that
are
just
left
that
way,
because
they
are
that
way.
So
I
think
it's
important,
especially
with
the
reimbursement.
A
thousand
dollars
doesn't
get
you
as
much
now,
as
it
did
even
three
years
ago.
E
When
it
comes
to
commercial
buildings,
so
I
think
that's
really
smart,
that
we're
doing
that.
Do
we
have
like,
like
a
one
sheet
flyer
or
like
a
like.
You
know
those
little.
I
forget
what
they're
called
but
like
those
little
cards.
E
Just
thinking
like
even
you
know,
the
size
that,
like
fits
in
an
envelope
to
advertise,
the
program
might
be
again,
I'm
always
looking
at
a
person
might
not
want
to
read
all
of
these
pages,
but
if
it
has
like
the
bullet
points
of
who's
eligible,
you
know
the
amount
and
a
couple
of
the
most
common
reimbursement
items
on
there.
It
might
promote
more
businesses
to
be
aware
of
it
or
be
paying
attention.
Absolutely
that's
a
good
idea.
Thank
you.
F
How
many
grants
are
we
going
to
offer
always
that?
What
is
the
total
amount
of
the
program.
P
So
we'll
be
getting
to
budget
in
a
little
bit,
but
right
now
the
program.
P
The
city's
program
is
funded
at
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
we
are
requesting
in
this
budget
to
increase
that
amount
to
10
000,
which
will
allow
for
roughly
kind
of
keep
in
the
gauge
of
being
able
to
help
at
least
five
businesses
annually
and
that's
up
too,
because
even
the
amount
for
25
is
up
to
so
potentially
there's
an
opportunity
to
help
more.
A
P
Okay,
so
nationally
there.
Well,
there
is
the
iedc,
which
is
an
economic
development
council
that
looks
at
all
of
the
united
states
and
brings
all
economic
developers
together,
just
training,
keeping
up
with
trends
etc,
and
they
are
hosting
a
third
economic
development
week,
which
will
happen
between
may
9th
and
may
13th.
P
I
thought
this
would
be
a
great
opportunity
for
the
city
of
grant
to
really
start
to
advertise
and
have
that
open
dialogue
with
the
community
about
all
the
work
that
we're
doing
to
promote
economic
development
and
then
how
that
community
development
piece
ties
in
it
to
us
specifically
and
the
city
of
groton
is
very
unique
to
other
municipalities
and
forms
of
economic
development,
so
really
honing
into
what
our
specifics
that
the
city
is
looking
at
as
we
move
forward.
P
L
Could
we
move
the
farmer's
market
even
if
it's
indoors
to
that
week?
Just
I
don't
know,
if
that's
possible
just
to
have
that
as
part
of
the.
P
F
L
A
Any
other
question
or
comments
on
this
all
right
in
that
case
I'll,
take
a
motion
to
move
this
to
the
mayor
council
meeting
of
may
2nd.
A
B
A
A
A
N
N
The
budget
for
the
planning
and
economic
development
is
pretty
basic.
It
basically
follows
last
year's
budget
and
the
one
two
things
to
call
out
just
so
that
you
know
what
the
differences
are.
One
is
the
office
supply
and
advertising
line
item
is
a
bit
higher.
The
reason
for
that
is
that
we
just
got
a
large
plotter
that
is,
we've
been
waiting
for
and
is
a
huge
help
we've
already
used
it.
We've
got
pages
of
the
report
that
you
just
saw
the
presentation
on
up
in
the
lobby
that
we
printed
on
that.
N
So
the
public
can
see
that
so
we're
employing
that
already
there
is
a
monthly
fee
for
things
like
it's
broken
down,
so
that
things
like
toner
and
paper
like.
B
N
Consolidation
of
some
of
these
items
so
that
where,
for
instance,
contract
services
had
been
called
out
in
particularly
for
planning
office
for
staff
issues,
then
there
was
one
for
another
line:
item
for
contractual
services
for
planning
and
zoning
another
for
cba
and
those
have
all
been
consolidated
so
that
I
just
wanted
to
call
those
out.
N
That's
why
they
show
up
a
little
bit
differently
than
they
did
last
year
and
in
terms
of
the
planning,
but
the
planning
portion
of
the
budget.
It's
basically
the
same
as
last
year
with
you
know.
The
percentage
increases
for
things
that
I
have
no
control
over.
N
I
do
try
very
hard
not
to
spend
the
money
that,
where
I
don't
have
to
contractual
services
is
a
good
example.
We
could
have
ended
up
spending.
All
of
that
and
maybe
more
had
a
specific
lawsuit
gone
through,
and
we
would
have
that
that
money
would
have
disappeared
very
quickly.
There's
no
way
to
predict
that
there's
only
a
way
to
hold
it
and
make
sure
that
we're
being
responsible
had
a
an
applicant
suit
us
over
something.
N
N
I've
just
noticed
that,
and
I
think
that
has
something
to
do
with
my
level
of
experience.
There's
just
I
don't
need
to
call
our
lawyers
as
much,
I
think,
but
other
than
that.
N
E
N
I
don't
we
don't
have.
Zba
is
the
one
area
that
there
is
ongoing
litigation
and
that
will
probably
will
be
in
court
on
that,
and
I
don't
know
what
those
hours
will
be
on.
E
E
So
I
I
guess
my
my
question
is:
if
we're
not
spending
the
whole
67
000
this
year
and
we
had
a
lawsuit
and
we're
still
not
planning
to
use
that
amount
of
money
is
there?
Do
we
really
need
to
increase
it
to
70
000
if
we
haven't
even
spent
the
money
that
we
plan
to
this
year
with
the
plan.
N
Unfortunately,
it's
one
of
those
things
that
you
don't
know
until
it
happens,
and
there
is
absolutely
no
way
to
know,
for
instance,
a
year
ago,
I
would
not
have
known
that
a
major
application
would
be
before
the
commission
and
that
there
would
be
the
potential
before
planning
and
zoning
understand
these.
This
is
a
composite
of
the
staff
use
of
an
attorney
planning
and
zoning
commission
and
the
zoning
board
of
appeals,
which
just
got
moved
to
the
planning
budget
from
building
zba,
tends
to
have
more
litigation
and
has
a
big
case
in
front
of
it.
A
K
K
E
K
E
E
K
E
So
and
my
other
question
is
I
understand
that
the
estimates
are
plugged
in
if
there's
not
an
estimate,
but
looking
at
the
financial,
the
the
budget
from
previous
years,
the
actual
year
ended
in
fiscal
year,
21,
which
I
can't
see
beyond
that.
Obviously
I
could
look
through
my
previous
budget
books
to
look
that
up,
but
considering
that
in
fiscal
year
21
we
only
spent
18
850
dollars.
B
E
It
just
seems
like
this:
these
numbers
aren't
an
accurate
picture
because
of
those
two
things,
because
those
lines
were
consolidated
so
we're
maybe
not
seeing
other
items
that
were
in
the
budget
for
21,
because
they're
not
on
this
line,
because
you
said
contractual
services
didn't
used
to
include
it
used
to
be
multiple
lines.
K
So
in
the
budget
submitted
there
was
contractual
services
under
the
planning,
which
was
for
50
000,
the
engineering,
architectural
legal
other
and
then,
which
also
include
the
resiliency
piece
of
that.
J
K
E
E
So
I
would
like
to
I,
before
we
vote
on
this
budget,
I'd
be
interested
to
see
an
actual
estimate
of
what
those
costs
sure
are
going
to
be,
and
I
understand
if
we
are
going
to
come
close,
I
just
know
we
look
at
a
lot
of
budgets
and
a
lot
of
numbers
and
I
think
for
me
I
would
just
see
like
to
see
a
better
analysis
of
that
number.
At
least
the
67
000,
because
that's
your
biggest
number,
a
better
analysis
of
that.
D
D
So
that's
where
you
always
want
to
put
a
little
extra
in,
like
I
said,
it's
budgeted,
doesn't
necessarily
mean
it'll
get
spent,
but
the
money's
there
as
insurance,
just
in
case.
So
that's
that's
my
thinking
as
far
as
when
you
put
it
together.
You're
budgeted
just
in
case,
especially
if
there
is
some
sort
of
litigation
going
on.
You
want
to
make
sure
it's
there,
so
you
don't
have
to
come
back
after.
F
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying,
but
I
don't
know
if
I
feel
comfortable
with
hearing
the
word
extra,
but
that's
a
topic
for
another
discussion.
You
know,
as
a
taxpayer
extra
you
know,
makes
me
a
little
unsettled.
F
But
could
you
also
tell
us
when
you
get
a
chance
when
you
deputy,
depot's,
requesting
the
breakdown
of
the
estimate?
Is
it
possible
to
also
break
down,
because
I
I'm
still
kind
of
fuzzy
of
what
the
increase
of
the
three
thousand
dollars
is.
K
N
If,
for
instance,
we
needed
to
use
a
you
know
a
city
vehicle
for
something,
sometimes
we
use
a
vehicle
from
public
works.
That
goes,
you
know
and
brings
the
fire
pits
and
the
chairs
and
things
like
that
over
to
the
thames
we
park,
things
like
that,
there
could
be
expenses
incurred
with
that
just
department
to
department
or
gas,
or
something
like
that.
N
Sierra's
going
to
address
the
the
top
portion,
the
administrative
portion
and
then
I
will
address
the
rest.
P
Okay,
so
hello
again
so
in
guards
to
the
administrative
question
I'll
be
covering
the
contractual
services
office,
supplies,
vehicle
operations,
professional
development,
materials
and
supplies
and
in
the
grant
program.
P
So
in
essence,
the
the
overall
budget
itself
didn't
change
much
the
the
dollar,
the
ending
dollar
amount
for
the
administrative
services,
a
few
of
the
items.
P
The
amounts
have
just
been
changed
in
each
of
the
line
items
so
for
contractual
services
there
was
a
decrease
of
8500.
P
You
will
notice
that
in
office
supplies,
there's
an
increase
of
500
in
the
professional
development,
there's
an
increase
of
500.
in
materials
and
supplies,
there's
an
increase
of
2500,
and
that
is
to
really
help
with
all
the
place,
making
planning
and
community
workshops
and
everything
that
we
do.
There
is
an
expense
to
all
these
elements
that
we
buy
to
help
put
these
events
on
and
then
for
the
grant
program.
There
is
the
increase
for
on
the
5000
to
bring
that
total
grant
program
to
10
000.
E
So
for
professional
development,
what
kinds
of
things
fall
into
that
bucket.
P
So
we
are
a
for
there's
a
number
of
trainings
that
I
do
so
one
through
some
local
program
organizations.
I
do
trainings,
but
then
id
iedc
does
a
number
of
trainings
so
that
funding
will
pay
for
any
of
those
classes
that
I
take
for
the
memberships.
The
city
of
groton
is
part
of
the
connecticut
main
street
program.
I'm
really
trying
to
bring
more
light
to
that
thane
street
intersection,
so
that
is
covered
in
on
that
expense
for
conferences.
P
I
unfortunately
wasn't
able
to
go
this
year,
but
that
is
a
conference
and
a
few
other
conferences
that
are
both
planning
and
economic
development
related
that
we
want
to
continue
to
do
to
just
stay
up
to
date
on
all
the
latest
trends
and
things
that
are
going
on
and
then,
as
far
as
publications,
there
are
a
number
of
subscriptions
that
I
stay
privy
to
just
to
once
again
just
stay
up
to
date
on
everything,
that's
going
on,
whether
it's
business,
wise
or
planning,
wise
or
just
general,
our
economy,
national
state,
local.
E
News
and
then
I
you
did
mention
the
increase
in
the
grant
program
before
and
I
I
think
just
want
to
say
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
I
think
10
000
is
a
reasonable
amount
to
use
for,
for
that,
especially
the
push
that
we're
trying
to
do,
and
I
do
just
to
backtrack
sorry.
You
know
I've
attended
the
ccm
conferences
as
a
counselor
and
I
think
that
that
stuff
is
very
helpful
to
mingle
with
people
who
are
doing
the
same
job
and
learn
what
other
communities
are
doing.
E
E
I
had
another
question
that
just
left
my
hand.
Oh,
is
there
a
particular
reason
you
expect
contractual
services
to
go
down
that
amount?
Is
there
a
particular
contract
or
expense
that
we
had
this
past
year
that
we
won't
have
next
year.
P
I've
noticed
that
personally,
I
take
on
a
couple
more
roles
than
then
we've
needed
to
actually
had
a
contractual
person
come
in
and
do
so
I've
been
doing
some
in-house
stuff
to
kind
of
keep
that
cost
down
perfect.
Thank
you
mayor.
I
also
there
was
one
slide
that
I
wanted
to
discuss
at
this
time.
If
I
could
I
forgot
about
it
just
for
this.
P
I
wanted
to
just
make
sure
that
you
guys
are
all
aware
that,
in
addition
to
these
administrative
services,
there
are
grants
that
the
planning
economic
department
has
applied
for
and
received
so
just
a
reminder:
the
national
fish
and
wildlife
we
received
over
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
complete
the
community
resiliency
plan
preservation,
ct
granted
us
25
000
to
complete
the
visioning
theme
street
work,
and
then
we
received
in-kind
services
and
a
value
of
40,
roughly
42
000
for
the
complete
street
works
and
the
bridge
street
gateway
planning
and
of
that
total
100
118
000,
plus
the
city
of
groton,
has
contributed
or
matched
15
000.
E
Sorry
that
just
made
me
think
of
something:
is
it
possible
when
we
do
these
budgets
to
put
the
grants
we've
received
in
the
past
year
in
the
budget,
so
that
or
is
that
not.
E
As
an
expense
but
like
maybe
on
the
like
on
this
highlight
page,
because
I
think
that
it
might
be
nice
so
say
our
budget
is
a
hundred
thousand
for
a
department,
but
we
also
got
a
hundred
thousand
in
grants.
I
think
that
that
might
be
nice
to
highlight
on
the
budget
so
that
we
see
you
know
like
to
me.
I
know
that
in
particular,
police
and
fire
have
opportunity
for
grants.
I
think,
maybe
more
often
than
other
departments,
so
we
see
them
applying
for
a
lot
of
them.
E
But
I
don't
know
that
taxpayer.
I
think
it's
a
good
to
highlight
because
in
my
mind,
that's
being
very
fiscally
responsible
spending,
the
time
to
apply
for
grants,
and
I
don't
think
people
realize
how
much
time
our
staff
spends
applying
for
grants,
because
it's
a
tedious
process.
So
I
think
that
might
be.
I
know
it's
not
part
of
like
expenses
but
like
maybe
in
the
highlights
of
each
department
or,
however,
I
don't
know
how
best
to
do
it
honestly.
E
So
maybe
for,
if
that's
possible,
I
know
that's
asking
you
to
do
another
thing,
but
if
that's
possible
for
the
departments
to
see
how
much
of
our
that
our
staff
is
trying
to
maximize
our
taxpayer
dollars-
and
I
think
it'd
be
nice
to
highlight
the
grants
we
get
as
offsetting
the
possible
taxes
that
they
would
have
to
pay
to
get
the
same
services.
Does
that
make
sense?
Yeah.
E
E
F
F
F
Just
to
finish
up
on
what
deputy
divo
was
saying,
you
have
a
very
good
story
to
tell-
and
I
think
in
your
but
your
budget
doesn't
do
you
justice
in
telling
that
story.
So
that's
why
I
think
it's
really
good
idea
if
you,
because
I'm
assuming
the
general
public
sees
this
so
you
know,
while
they're
looking
at
dollars,
they
can
go
wow.
Look
at
all
the
magnificent
things
that
planning
and
economic
development
has
done
so
plus
any
other
department.
N
With
regard
to
personnel
services
in
the
economic
and
development
economic
development
portion
of
the
budget,
I.
N
Have
I
just
wanna,
it's
obvious
there
is
a
large
proposed
increase
in
salary
for
sierra.
I
think
she
has
been
her
best
spokesperson
here
tonight,
but
if
you
have
any
questions,
I
would
be
happy
to
entertain
them.
I
am
strongly
in
favor
of
this.
N
I
know
how
hard
both
sierra
works
as
a
person,
but
I
also
know
what
the
job
entails
and
I
will
tell
you:
I
have
worked
with
other
economic
development
directors
in
the
past
in
other
municipalities,
and
it
hasn't
been
until
now
that
even
I
have
given
real
credence
to
what
that
position
can
be
and
understanding
how
to
develop
a
process.
How
to
move
that
process
before
forward
in
a
both
a
rigorous
but
also
creative,
innovative
way,
and
there
are
okay.
N
That
document
then
gets
pushed
the
items
in
that
document
get
pushed
forward
through
regulatory
means
and
through
programming
means
and
through
every
other
means
we
can
think
of
and
that
so,
for
instance,
we're
updating
the
zoning
regulations
now
to
comply
and
to
bring
forward
and
create
the
framework
for
what
it
is.
That's
in
the
plan
of
conservation
and
development
to
make
things
allowable
that
may
not
be.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
that
people
said
they
wanted
that
are
actually
not
allowed
by
the
zoning
regulations
at
the
moment.
N
So
that's
what
the
commission
and
I
are
working
hard
on
and
we're
doing
that
in-house,
that's
and
then
the
the
next
step
is
moving
that
forward
and
you'll
see
in
the
economic
development
line
at
the
bottom
of
this
slide
and
again
it's
community
engagement,
it's
those
feedback
loops
going
back
to
the
public.
What
is
it
that
you
want?
How
do
you
want
it?
What
are
you
going
to
do
to
help
us
get
there
and
moving
that
forward
to
both
getting
that
information
and
finding
the
funding
and
moving
toward
implementation?
P
Okay,
so
we
kind
of
get
asked
the
question:
what
is
economic
development-
and
so
I
stumbled
upon
this
definition-
is
the
intentional
practice
of
improving
a
community's
economic
well-being
and
quality
of
life
and
includes
a
broad
range
of
activities
to
attract,
create
and
retain
jobs
and
to
foster
a
resilient
pro-growth
tax
base
and
an
inclusive
economy.
N
So
that's
what
we
try
and
do
that's
what
sierra
does
every
day
all
day
and
most
nights
and
weekends,
and
it
is
also
what
we
try
and
explain
to
the
public
and
how
it
is
par
again.
That's
the
description
of
the
process
and
that's
what
we
try
to
do.
N
N
Now
it's
a
full-time
position,
and
it
includes
all
of
the
line
items
on
the
right.
So
we've
gone
from
one
column
that
you
can't
read
to
two
columns
that
you
can't
read
and
the
things
that
have
come
into
our
department
and
have
fallen
on
sierra's
desk
are
things
that
I
always
know
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
do
we're
going
to
do
well
and
sierra
keeps
everything
on
track
and
again
it's
not
about
the
shiny
objects.
N
So
we
did
with
the
with
some
help
from
human
resources
I
put
together
this
chart
on
the
left,
which
is
a
salary
comparison
of
job
postings,
with
the
exception
of
the
two
from
the
town.
These
are
current
job
postings
on
indeed
from
around
the
country
and
you'll
see,
one
of
them
is
from
wallingford
connecticut
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
other
places
and
what
one
other
place
in
connecticut
is
paying
as
a
starting
salary
unless
otherwise
noted.
N
Okay,
the
two
in
in
the
town
are
included
because
they're
kind
of
the
most
applicable,
but
the
two
people
that
are
in
those
positions,
also
have
been
there
for
a
long
time.
N
So
we're
not
even
close
to
fill
us
to
fill
this
position
now.
If,
for
some
reason
sierra
decided
to
leave,
it
would
cost
us
much
more
than
what
we're
asking
for
in
this
position
now.
A
A
So
you
that's
the
reason
that
I
recommended
the
change.
I
recognize
it
is
a
large
change,
but
it
brings
her
up
to
where
we
should
have
her,
and
I
agree
with
leslie.
If
we
lose
her,
then
not
only
do
we
well.
We
need
to
start
over
basically
and
we're
going
to
be
starting
with
someone
brand
new
at
probably
a
higher
salary,
but
we're
going
to
lose
the
three
years
experience
that
she
has
here
that
breadth
and
depth
of
experience
that
she
has
that
she
brings
with
her.
N
Yes,
I
think
for
now
I
just
I
I
there
are
two
pieces
to
this-
that
I
hope
you'll
keep
in
mind.
One
is
what
her
experience
is,
what
she's
proven
that
she
can
do
and
what
she's
doing
all
that
she's
doing
and
as
the
mayor
said,
she
is
working
on
things
that
other
municipalities,
including
the
town,
have
totally
separate
human
beings
doing
they
they
will
be
having
a
resiliency
person.
N
We
have
a
resiliency
person
who
happens
to
be
the
same
person
as
our
economic
development
person
and
our
you
know
our
complete
streets
person
and
our
you
know,
remember
those
those
columns
are
those
people.
N
We
have
that
wrapped
up
into
one
and
one
incredibly
capable-
and
I
will
say
my
favorite
person,
I've
ever
worked
with
so
there's
just
I'm
going
to
lose
it.
A
E
So
I
want
to
say
a
few
things
I
have
actually.
E
Along
since
the
time
sierra
has
been
here,
I
have
had
a
few
different
staff
members
comment
to
me
how
hard
she
works
and
not
just
in
her
own
department,
but
people
who
work
in
the
building
that
notice
from
a
professional
standpoint,
doing
rough
calculations.
The
the
current
salary
is
only
23
dollars
an
hour
working
40
hours,
which
I
assume
you
work
more
than
that,
because
I
don't
know
how
you
would
get
all
the
work
done
in
40
hours
and
bumping
up.
E
The
salary
is
about
a
ten
dollar
an
hour
again
at
40
hours,
which
is
probably
not
what
you're
working
you're,
probably
working
way
more
than
that
from
my,
in
my
opinion,
from
a
professional
standpoint
for
a
salary,
I
don't
think
that's
an
unreasonable
number.
It
is
a
big
jump.
E
Like
kind
of
absorb
that
that
the
number
should
change
so
much,
but
the
other
thing
that
I
have
been
thinking
about
too,
especially
over
the
budget
season,
having
every
department
head
sit
here
and
give
their
budget
is
that
I
think
that
in
right
now
we
have
a
team
of
department
heads
that
seem
to
work
better
together
than
in
the
past,
and
I
think
it
might
also
just
be
in
terms
of
because
they
all
have
started
in
this
last
couple
of
years,
we've
had
a
big
recycling
of
positions,
so
I
think
that,
from
also
from
an
employee's
standpoint,
I
think,
having
a
team
that
works
together,
the
way
that
it
seems
to
be
working
and
moving
in
a
positive
direction
forward.
E
I
it
gives
me
even
more
reason
to
keep
the
people
who
are
working
well
and
clearly,
you
know
making
an
impact
in
the
department.
E
I
think
it's
important
and
I
really
try
to
focus
on
happy
employees
work
better
together
and
on
their
own,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
consider
that
as
well.
When
we
consider
you
know
who
we
want
to
keep
or
you
know
keeping
employees
happy.
I
think
it's
important
that
people
also
are
paid
what
they're
worth.
E
A
H
So
all
right,
so
as
a
because
I
I
I
consider
anybody
employed
with
with
a
city,
grant
a
government,
employee
right
and-
and
I
I
think
we
have
to
be
careful
between
going
through,
like
okay,
we're
a
corporation
we're
paying
people
for
how
many
tasks
they
do
or
what
they
do.
Or
is
this
like
a
government
right,
and
I
am
in
favor
for
her
increase
because
of
there's
nothing
kind
of
set
in
place
right?
I've
said
this
for
a
while
that
we
need
something
set
in
place
for
things
like
this
right.
H
I
think
we
need
to
evaluate
how
we
do
things,
because,
regardless
of
the
fact
how
much
work
you
do
like
this
jump
is
big
like
there's.
No
reason
why
we
should
have
the
director
begging
us
for
a
raise
right,
but
I
I'm
I'm
for
it
because
of
you
know,
that's
what
the
job
entails.
H
H
You
know,
as
far
as
the
tasks
go,
I'm
sure
you're
doing
extra
right,
but
I
I
think
we
need
to
look
as
as
as
a
city
like
what
are
we
doing
as
far
as
rectifying
this
and
making
sure
things
like
this
don't
happen,
because
I
look
at
like
the
mary
hills
that
have
been
here
for
a
long
time
who
do
a
lot
of
work
for
us,
you
know,
is
she
being
paid
what
she
should
get
paid?
H
I
think
it
needs
to
be
kind
of
fluid
throughout
the
eight
throughout
the
city,
not
in
a
manner
where
it's
okay,
we,
like
a
certain
person
all
right,
I'm
not
I'm
not
insinuating
that
I'm
not
insinuating
that
I'm
just
saying
I
don't
want
it
to
be
presented
as
that,
because
that's
what's
seeming
like
it's
presented
as
okay,
we
love
the
work
she's
doing.
This
is
what
she's
getting
paid
for
and
I'm
looking
at
it
as
no.
This
is
what
you're
worth.
H
Do
you
see
what
I'm
saying
and
and
and
I'm
I'm
with
this,
because
you
know,
I
think
this
is
what
your
job
entails.
You
come
in
with
his
master's
degree.
This
is
what
it's
worth
as
opposed
to:
okay,
we're
gonna
pay,
sierra,
because
it's
sierra.
H
Do
you
see
what
I'm
saying
and
they're
always
one
the
reason
why
I'm
saying
that
is
because
there
are
other
directors
that
I
don't
think
are
getting
paid
fair
market
value
and
that's
just
what
I've
been
told
you
know,
but
I
I'm
all
for
it
and
I
look
forward
for
you,
your
continued
service
with
the
with
the
city.
You
know,
because
we
definitely
want
to
keep
you
in
your.
L
Yeah,
I
think
for
me
it
is
about
paying
fair
market
value
for
the
position,
which
I
think
is
not
happening
now.
It
is
not
uncommon
for
the
workplace
to
do
a
market
assessment
and
do
do
those
kinds
of
bumps
along
with
a
merit.
So
you
know
sierra
is
doing
a
great
job.
She
gets
a
merit
raise,
but
this
is
a
separate
entity
being
that
market
value.
L
So
that's
kind
of
how
I
look
at
it
and
I've
seen
that
happen
where
I
work
as
well.
So
it's
not
unheard
of,
but
it
sounds
like.
Maybe
we
could
be
doing
this
kind
of
thing
holistically
across
all
of
the
departments
to
make
sure
that
the
market
value
for
the
people
that
have
been
here
for
many
years-
and
you
know
it's
it's
one
thing
to
say
yeah.
L
A
A
We
are
continuing
to
look
across
the
board
at
our
non-union
and
department
heads
and
we're
looking
at
the
utility
side
and
we're
also
looking
at
the
municipality
side.
I
had
a
discussion
with
john
burt
last
week
when
we
were
at
a
conference
and
we're
even
behind
the
town
in
some
cases,
but
he's
talking
about
doing
the
same
kind
of
study
that
we're
doing.
I
now
have
linda
already
doing
a
study
to
see
where
we
are
in
our
salaries
and
see
if
we
need
to
make
some
changes.
E
Five
years
after
someone's
hired
or
something
like
that,
like
some
kind
of
like
established
number,
where
it's
standard
for
us
to
look
at
the
salaries
and
compare
them
to
the
market,
to
make
sure
that
this
is
kind
of
across
the
board.
At
least
we
have
an
idea,
because
you
know
time
goes
by
and
it's
just
like
the
the
grant
cost
thousand
dollars
didn't
get
you
the
same
thing
a
couple
years
ago,
same
thing
with
salaries,
salaries,
change,
a
lot
and
different
professions,
kind
of
fluctuate,
a
lot.
So
sometimes
you
have
you
know.
E
A
Because
we've
not
done
that
before
we're,
also
using
we're
going
to
ccm
and
looking
at
some
of
their
numbers
and
then
one
of
the
challenges
you
run
into
is
to
say
you
look
at
a
title
of
a
department
head
and
then
you
go
to
this.
You
go
to
this
municipality
and
the
jobs
aren't
the
same.
A
So
you
got
to
break
them
down
and
look
and
say:
okay,
what's
this
individual
doing,
but
we
are
actively
doing
that
and
we're
starting
with
ccm
and
other
places
that
we're
looking
at
for
salaries
to
make
sure
that
we're
paying
people
what
they're
worth
casper
norris.
F
Got
a
whole
page
here,
so
in
2018
he
went
from
part-time
to
full-time.
Was
there
a
pay
increase.
F
F
N
I
can
tell
you
that
it
is
a
it's
a
mixed
bag
and
it's
very
difficult
to
tell,
because
if
you
look
at
a
job
posting,
they
are
either
so
specific
and
have
you
know
three
columns
of
things
that
they
want
somebody
to
do
and
they
list
everything
which
is
very
difficult,
which
is
not
possible
for
one
person
to
do
or
they're
so
vague
that
you
can't
really
tell
what
the
job
is,
and
so,
when
you're
looking
at
national
postings,
it's.
F
N
F
F
Because
I
bring
that
up
because
we
could
be
even
at
the
new
rate
not
doing
you
justice
and
what
I'm
trying
to
alleviate
is
so
we
do
it
now
and
then
two
years
from
now
we're
doing
it
again,
potentially
a
different
way
and
we're
getting
a
whole
nother
number.
So
that's
why
I
was
asking
that
question
you
do
that.
I
don't
want
to
get
into
do
we
do
this?
Do
we
do
that?
Every
minute
to
pull
employee
works
more
than
40
hours
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff?
So
it's
not
a
matter
of.
F
F
Yes,
we
do
need
to
keep
good
talent
and
stop
them
from
fleeing,
but
at
the
same
time,
what
is
the
rest
of
the
state
doing
and
I'm
going
to
be
honest
in
looking
at
that
and
the
information
I
mean
I'm
in
favor
of
the
pay,
but
I'm
also
saying
it's
not
telling
what
I
really
want
to
know.
I
don't
know
what
colchester
meridian
granby
south
winds.
I
don't
know
what
they're
getting
paid
based
on.
A
N
It
as
possible-
and
I
think
that
one
thing
I
I
and
I
totally
appreciate
that
and
if
it
was,
I
totally
appreciate
that
I
really
do
one
of
the
things
that
makes
that
incredibly
difficult
is
that
there
is
a
certain
baseline
that
you
have
to
do
for
most
jobs,
whether
you're
in
waterbury
or
hartford
or
groton,
or
you
know,
derby
connecticut.
N
F
F
Yeah
but
but
for
future,
I'm
not
just
saying
that
you
know
and
because
all
of
this
is
leading
up
to-
and
everyone
is
saying
it
so
I'm
just
echoing
I
apologize
and
taking
up
your
time
is:
there's
probably
a
lot
of
non-unionized
people
in
the
city
that
are
not
getting
paid.
What
market
is
and
I'm
a
little
like
we
seem
to
be,
you
know
one
person's
advocating
for
themselves
and
another
person's
advocate
themselves,
and
it's
like,
I
guess
how.
F
F
A
question
of
you
and
but
you
you
again
taking
you're
looking
at
your
job
description.
Looking
at
your
pay,
I
think
it's
time
now
to
reevaluate
the
job
title,
because
you're
no
longer
just
a
specialist.
A
A
The
process
we're
looking
at
we
we
are,
and
we
are
looking
in
general,
at
salaries
across
the
board.
I've
asked
linda
to
do
that.
We
started
you
know
a
while
back,
but
we
are.
We
are
looking
at
that
because
we
recognize
that
it's
an
issue.
You
know
there's
a
couple
and
not
only
that,
but
we're
also
that's
why
this
year
for
salary
increases
for
for
non-union,
we
went
with
three
percent
right,
as
opposed
with
what
the
union
was
getting,
which
is
what
we've
always
done
before.
A
A
A
A
K
So
so
the
first,
the
first
one
is
the
general
insurance
on
page
94..
That
would
just
be
increased
from
115
000
to
120..
These
are
costs
that
are
related
to
the
insurance
consultant,
other
insurance
policies
that
we
have
that
really
just
don't
aren't
specific
to
one
department
and
they
just
kind
of
fall
in
as
a
whole
with
with
the
insurance
market.
K
You
never
know
where
it's
going
to
come
come
in
at,
as
you
can
see,
we've
been
under
the
last
and
fiscal
21
was
91
up
to
104,
so
there
was
a
significant
increase,
we're
kind
of
potentially
planning
on
that
again,
not
knowing
where
it's
going
to
go.
So
that's
why
it
just
was
up
just
the
5
000,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
had
adequate
in
there.
So
that's
the
general
insurance.
K
The
next
one
is
the
pay
adjustment.
This
is
kind
of
a
standard
line.
That's
been
stays
in
there.
These
are
for
pay
adjustments
that
are
outside.
If
some
one
of
the
union
contracts
not
settled
and
as
the
fire
talked
about
with
their
budget,
they
kept
the
same
salaries
that
were
in
that
expiring
contract.
We
would
pull
the
money
out
of
this
pool
in
theory
replenish
it.
So
we
just
keep
this
at
the
25
000.
For
those
instances,
you'll
see
that
there's
nothing
in
21.
K
E
K
There
have
been
some
increases
over
the
years
that
were
on
over
the
year,
that
was
on
budget.
I
didn't
have
an
exact
number
of
each
one,
so
that
was
just
kind
of
put
in
there.
I
can
get
that
for
you
as
far
as
what
what
those
were
that
were
that
were
unbudgeted
that
we
had
used.
That's
that's,
definitely
not
an
exact
number.
I
didn't
go
through
every
every
one
of
those
positions
that
were
on
budget
that
had
an
increase.
K
E
K
B
A
K
The
next
section
on
99
to
100
is
just
our
debt
payments.
That's
the
city
responsible.
For
again,
this
is
just
city.
Debt,
electric
water
and
sewer
are
paid
for
out
of
those
funds
themselves.
So
this
is
just
the
general
obligation
of
the
city.
F
K
K
K
The
other
piece
of
it
is,
as
we've
done.
Historically
the
undesignated
capital
projects.
It's
what
this
does
is
moves.
The
money
over
to
the
capital
reserve
account
for
four
capital
projects
that
just
they
haven't
been
earmarked
for
something
yet.
But
we
know
that
we
need
to
do
some
capital
work
and
they'll
come
back
to
you
for
approval
as
part
of
the
expenditure
side
of
it.
F
I
really
wanted
to
make
a
general
statement,
but
I
don't
know,
but
what
I'm
just
going
to
say
as
much
as
I
may
have
been
the
poor
choice
of
words
when
I
talked
about
extra
in
the
budget,
I
do
want
the
residents
of
grant
city
to
know
that
I
applaud
your
staff.
They
made
cuts
where
they
really
saw
not
a
need
right
yeah.
So
thank
you.
There's
a
lot
of
cuts
in
this
budget
that
yeah
kudos
good
job.
A
A
We
know
that,
but
I
said
no
additional
toys
and
whistles,
and
so
and
the
and
staff
heated
that
and
you're
right
we
came
in,
we
came
in
with
a
good
budget
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
we
had
the
ground
list
and
that
went
up
and
so
one
of
the
things
when
ron-
and
I
were
looking
at-
where
do
we
want
to
take
the
mill
rate?
A
At
one
point
we
looked
at
going
as
low
as
three
mils
and
my
first
question
was
one:
can
you
do
it
and
the
answer
was
yes,
my
second
question
was:
is
it
sustainable
and
the
answer
was
no,
so
he
gave
me
another
scenario.
He
gave
us
a
couple
other
scenarios
and
then
one
of
them
had
the
taxes
going
up,
and
I
said
we're
not
going
to
do
that.
So
then
we
came
up
and
I
said:
can
we
can
we
split
the
diff?
Can
we
go
to
3.5
and
we
ended
up
with
363.
A
we're
right
now?
This
is,
I
think,
it's
sustainable,
at
least
for
the
short
term,
one
of
the
things
that
I
am
concerned
about-
and
I've
said
this
before
my
revenues
are
coming
down,
meaning
my
the
permit
fees
are
going
to
come
down
to
what
is
a
historic
normal,
which
is
four
five
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
A
Enterprise
zone
exception,
which
means
instead
of
coming
on
100
on
the
grand
list.
It's
a
five.
You
know
five
year,
payback
20
40,
60
80..
In
addition
to
that,
when
it
goes
on
the
grand
list,
it
hits
the
fiscal
year
two
years
later,
so
it's
not
a
direct
thing.
So
so
right
now,
if
you
notice
we're
at
26
on
the
general
fund,
our
lenders
like
us
to
be
20
25,
we're
26,
so
we're
on
the
high
end.
A
There
we
have
money
set
aside
here
so
that
later
on,
if
we
need
that
we
can
come
down
and
that
will
help
offset
any
tax
increase
that
we
may
have
to
do
so,
I'm
we
are
looking
out
two
and
three
years
down
the
road
to
try
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
fiscally
responsible
with
taxpayers
money
so
that,
because
I
don't
like
big
ups
and
downs,
there's
there's
some
mayors
out
there
that
don't
have
a
problem
with
okay,
we'll
go
up
this
year,
we'll
go
down
next
year,
we'll
go
up!
A
I'm
trying
and
we've
done
that.
First
three
years
we
came
down
the
last
two
years
were
flat.
This
year's
down
a
little
bit
we're
down
15
this
year.
If
you
look
at
the
grand
less
increase
overall
on
average,
and
I
recognize
there's
pockets
of
people
that
had
you
know,
maybe
30
and
40
increase,
but
as
an
average
in
the
city,
it's
16
so
went
up
16
we're
going
down
15.
A
So
again
we
try
to
keep
it
flat
so
that
trying
to
be
respectful
and
understanding
what
taxpayers
are
going
through.
A
Sheet
that
we
sent
out
on
the
fy
23
departmental
budget
presentations.
So
this
concludes
the
budget
review
on
may
16.
It
says
city
council
must
approve
the
budget,
so
I
we
can.
There
are
some
answers
that
we
owe
you.
I
can
give
you
that
next
week,
under
communications
and
reports
and
then
we'll
go
from
that
and
then
it
will
be
proposed
to
you
to
approve
on
may
16th
and
then
on
may
23rd.
A
A
A
R
Lewis
tree
we've
currently
been
using
aspen
tree
service
for
the
past.
I
believe
it
was
a
three-year
bid
and.
R
We
we
just
bid
it
out.
We
had
three
bids
lewis
tree
was
low
and
we're
recommending
to
swap
to
them,
and
this
is
also
going
to
pertain
to
basra.
So
we
between
the
we
basically
spend
double.
R
This
year
is
we
also
added
a
supervisor
to
go
around
and
do
qaqc
to
make
sure
we're
keeping
a
move
on
because
we've,
we
believe
we
could
have
a
little
bit
better
productivity
overall
from
the
tree.
Crews.
A
We
had
some
feedback
from
commissioners
at
buzzer,
like
in
power.
That
said,
hey
I'm
looking
for
the
I'm
looking
for
the
tree
truck
and
I
don't
see
the
tree
truck
so.
E
Deputy
mayor
depot,
so
do
we
know
any
other
municipalities
or
utilities
that
are
using
louis
tree
service?
Did
we
get
like
referrals
or
anything
for
their
service.
R
They're
being
used
in
western
connecticut
by
eversource
and
united
illuminating,
I
I
can't
recall
another
municipality
using
it.
Mark
didn't
mention
that
when
we
did
have
asplin
aspirins
the
contract
we
had
with
aspin
was
very
favorable
and
nor
npu
actually
leveraged
our
contract
and
used
our
pricing
up
there
without
having
to
bid
it
so
there's
a
chance
that
that
could
fall.
They
could
be
following
us
again.
R
E
R
R
E
E
E
R
If
you
take
a
drive
down
that
road,
you'll
notice
that
we've
been
slowly
replacing
the
poles-
and
this
is
to
actually
continue
and
finish
the
wiring
similar
to
what
we've
done-
we've
used
dnd
power,
which
we
have
a
master
service
agreement
with
bhi
energy
dnd-
is
a
subsidiary
of
them.
We've
done
this
also
on
south
road
in
basra
and
on
thomas
road
to
replace
wiring
out
there.
Also
we've
leveraged
this
service
agreement.
A
Okay,
any
questions
or
comments,
deputy
mayor
dico.
B
R
E
R
R
And
actually
it's
not
snet,
it's
frontier
at
this
point.
So
as
a
general
rule,
the
pole
is
replaced
by
the
utility
that
owns
it
and
the
other
utilities
will
wait.
Okay,
unless
it's
an
emergency
or
unless
you're
moving
ahead
with
a
project
and
you've
had
it
on
the
frontier
list
for
three
years,
and
they
still
haven't
done
it
for
you.
Yet,
okay
and
you
just
decide
you've
got
to
get
it
done.
A
A
We
have
a
motion
a
second
any
further
discussion.
Hearing
nine,
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
extension
motion
carries
power.
Election.
R
You
can
tell,
by
the
order
of
magnitude
of
this
by
is
that
this
is
the
transmission
project.
This
prod.
This
is
a
100
percent
ptf,
meaning
that
it
will
be
reimbursable
by
the
transmission
system
once
we
replace
it.
R
R
A
So
we're
leveraging
them
counselor
norris.
R
We
we've
been
putting
25
percent
contingencies
on
these,
since
we
what
started
with
that
was.
We
came
back
to
council
what
not
just
once
but
twice
on
some
of
these,
and
we
were
putting
in
10
contingencies,
the
10
percent
didn't
do
it
we'd
do
it
again,
and
then
we
had
to
do
it
again.
So
we've
got
large
contingencies,
we'll
assure
you
that
we're
not
cutting
purchase
orders
for
more
than
we
have
to
spend.
So
the
contractors
do
not
see
what
was
approved
and
there's
only.
A
I
think
one
time
we
had
a
fifty
percent
continue
to
seek
on
something
that
was
short
short
lead
him.
I
think
I
remember
that,
but
and
we
try
to
we
try
to
do
ten
if
we
can,
but
now
we're
any
other
questions
on
par
all
right.
I'll.
Take
a
motion
to
move
this
to
the
mayor
and
council
meeting
on
may
2nd
2022.
A
Second,
we
have
a
motion
of
the
second
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
sessions.
Motion
cares
burns
and
mcdonald's.
R
The
the
par
work
that
we
just
discussed
is
going
to
have
oversight
in
supervision
with
boots
on
the
grounds
using
this
burns
and
mcdonald's
bend
to
make
sure
that
the
poles
are
installed
correctly.
They
there's
things
that
they
check
would
randy
talk
about.
He
talked
about
the
depth
that
the
poles
are
buried,
the
way
that
the
soil
around
the
poles.
So
so
when
they
core
it,
they
actually
bore
the
holes
and
then
the
poles
get
stood
up
and
get
slid
into
the
holes
and
have
to
be
supported
appropriately
and
then.
B
R
A
R
Granite
inline
solution
is
a
member
of
a
buying
cooperative
that
municipalities
use.
So
it's
a
a
pre-agreed
to
price.
The
project
is
to.
R
Ini
stands
for
infiltration
to
the
sewer
system,
such
as,
if
there's
a
storm
in
the
ground,
water
rises
or
there's
an
extremely
high
tide
and
the
groundwater
rises
or
the
streets
flood.
Some
of
the
source
system
will
have
infiltration
from
that
water
going
into
the
pipes
and
hence
into
the
pump
stations
in
the
sewage
treatment
plant.
R
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
down
the
area
of
shena,
cosset
jupiter
point
and
almost
all
the
way
to
the
college
they're
going
to
be
lining
those
sewer
lines
so
that
the
water
doesn't
infiltrate
in
and
the
pipes
get
sealed
up
like
they're
brand
new.
This
is
very
common
practice
in
sewer
systems.
Well,.
A
It's
part
of
the
resiliency,
but
it's
also
part
of
protecting
our
sewer
plant
capacity
capability
efficiency.
That
kind
of
thing,
because
what
happens
is
one
of
the
things
we're
required
to
monitor-
is
nitrogen.
We
put
back
into
the
long
island
sound.
Historically,
we
get
credits
back,
so
we
get
money
back
because
we're
that
efficient.
A
R
No
fiscal
year,
22.,
okay,
yeah,
it's
a
it's
a
capital
project.
B
R
The
main
focus
in
you
probably
know
the
order
better
than
I
at
this
point,
but
there's
a
whole
there's
a
whole
study
with
a
plan
and
it's
all
phased
in
over
time
right.
I
know
this
is
the
next
lowest
area
of
the
collection
system.
A
And
that's
the
reason
we're
doing
it
here
is
because
we
get
routine
flooding
even
from
tidal
surges
in
this
area,
and
so
that's
how
we
want
to
fix
this.
Eventually,
all
I
forget
was
90
miles.
I
think
I
don't
remember
how
many
miles
it's
a
bunch
of
miles
of
sewer
pipe
is
all
going
to
be
inspected
and
that
piping
that
has
cracks
is
going
to
be
lined
using
this
program.
So
it's
a
three
to
five
year
program
that
doing
a
we're.
J
A
L
R
There's
the
last
two
are
trimble
and
then
also
as
teca
systems,
which
is
aka
city
works.
This
is,
I
believe,
actually
in
your
packages
you'll
see
a
plan
that
has
not
only
the
utility,
but
public
works
into
it.
So
what
the
plan
is
is
to
get
everything
into
trimble,
which
is
our
gis
system
and
also
all
of
our
assets
and
equipment
into
cityworks,
which
is
the
maintenance
management
system
and
director
robarge
has
been
talking
to
you
about
that.
R
So
this
next
action,
item
or
resolution
is
to
spend
money
to
put
the
assets
into
the
system
and
have
a
contractor
come
and
help
us.
Do
it
right,
the
first
time
for
the
wastewater
plant,
the
water
filtration
plant,
our
brand
new
plant
and
also
for
the
metering
system
for
the
water
distribution
system.
R
Bill
robarts
will
be
working
with
in
the
back
with
the
sewer
system
and
with
heidi,
and
then
this
next
resolution
will
be
for
the
first
year
of
the
annual
fee
to
turn
on
the
system.
So
we
actually
have
the
software
support
moving
forward
and
that
will
be
an
ongoing
expense
moving
forward.
R
A
So
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
aye,
opposed,
essentially
motion
carries
and
I'll
take
a
motion
to
move
his
tech
assistance
to
the
mayor
and
council
meeting
on
may
2nd
2022
so
moved.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
to
the
second
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
extension
motion
carries
and,
lastly,
I
will
take
a
motion
to
adjourn.
K
I
just
want
to
add
just
one
thing:
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
the
financials
due
to
the
time,
but
what
I
do
want
to
do
is
hand
out
the
city
financials
and
also
we
just
received
today
the
suspense
listing
from
the
tax
collector.
So
I
just
wanted
to
hand
that
out
so
when
you
see
it
on
next
monday's
meeting.
You'll
know.