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From YouTube: City of Groton Committee of the Whole - 3/22/21
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City of Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting March 22, 2021. To view the agenda click on the link below.
https://cityofgroton.com/event/committee-of-the-whole-9/?instance_id=3625
A
Present
our
mayor
keith
hedrick,
one
of
deputy
mayor
guanavira
depot
counselors
lisa
mccabe,
stephen
sheffield,
rashad
carter.
Okay,
thank
you
also,
finance
director
ron,
yuhas
and
city
clerk,
deborah
patrick
okay.
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
the
first
refer.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
referrals.
First,
referral
his
appointments
and
the
appointment
that
we
have
tonight
is
sofia
bauman
for
the
harbor
management
commission,
and
so
you
see
you
saw
the
application
and
her
resume.
B
C
Sure,
yes,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
so
I
I'm
a
resident
here
in
groton
city.
I
live
in
china,
casas
road
and
I'm
a
faculty
member
research
faculty
member
at
the
department
of
marine
sciences,
and
I
really
have
been
wanting
to
get
involved
in
the
life
of
the
city.
Thinking
that
I
would
be
able
to
contribute
and
because
you
know,
I'm
very
interested
in
the
marine
environment
as
well.
You
know
professionally,
as
well
as
just
in
terms
of
you
know.
C
Time
spent
you
know
outside
of
work
with
my
family.
We
like
to
wander
around
the
water
edges.
I
wanted
to,
you
know,
become
involved
in
the
harbor
management
commission
and
I
hope
that
I'll
be
able
to
contribute
to
any
kind
of
conversations
that
are
going
on.
B
That
would
be
great.
We
could
also
probably
use
you
in
one
of
the
initiatives
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
in
the
near
future,
which
is
the
greening
of
groton
and
we're
going
to
be
focusing
on
how
do
contaminants,
including
plastics
and
microplastics,
get
into
the
water
and
working
their
way
working
from
the
water
back
to
the
source
of?
How
do
we
mitigate
and
minimize
and
eliminate
them?
And
so
your
expertise
would
come
in
a
hand.
Come
in
handy.
C
B
All
right
counselors
any
questions
or
comments
for
sophia
councillor
mccabe.
You
have
the
floor.
D
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
very
much
for
stepping
forward.
I'm
really
excited
to
have
someone
of
your
caliber
join,
join
the
harbor
management
commission
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
some
of
the
good
things
you
guys
discuss.
This
is
this
extra
topic
you
just
brought
up
mr
mayor.
That's
also
something
I'm
very
interested
in,
so
I'm.
I
look
forward
to
hearing
some
of
the
good
ideas
you
guys
come
up
with
for
mitigation.
E
B
F
B
C
B
Okay,
the
next
one
is
donation
request,
usvi
dominic
nigri
memorial
clubhouse,
and
this
is
748.
So
if
you
look
at
your
package.
B
There
is
some
information
there,
but
I
also
happen
to
have
jeff
walsh,
who
is
the
base
commander
for
subvets
so
with
that
jeff
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
So
you
can
address
the
council.
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
city,
council.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
the
honor
of
speaking
in
front
of
you.
I
met
each
one
of
you
and
many
of
our
memorials,
but
it's
great
to
be
able
to
speak
with.
G
As
you
know,
the
dominic
jones
clubhouse
is
near
dear
to
the
city
of
groton,
it's
126
years
old
building,
and
it
takes
a
lot
to
maintain
that
building
it's
our
headquarters
for
uss
vi.
National
young
sailors
who
come
through
sub
vets
for
the
first
time,
see
the
joe
clubhouse.
G
I
love
the
history
of
the
building.
We've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
the
inside.
We
use
the
until
money
to
maintain
the
building.
Mr
mayor
has
been
there
and
I
think
joe
rusk
has
been
there
and
all
that
and
they've
seen
all
the
work
we've
done
this
year.
G
This
year
we
put
over
15,
you
know
between
15
to
20
000
worth
of
renovations
inside.
So,
if
you,
the
last
time
you've
been
inside
the
clubhouse
right
before
the
pandemic,
the
next
time
you
come
in
you're
gonna
get
blown
away.
G
It
doesn't
even
look
like
what
we
used
to
call
your
grandparents
basement.
G
It's
it's
well
been
renovated
and
all
that
and
maintaining
that
build
is
important.
We
just
recently
found
foundation
issues
with
the
building
and
we
had
it
repaired.
G
We
found
some
investors
had
the
bestest
removed,
rewired
the
building
so
that
it
had
some
old,
antiquated
wiring
and
I'm
not
going
to
lie
to
you
being
submarine
sailors.
As
mr,
mr
mayor
will
tell
you,
we
have
a
tendency
to
do
things
our
way,
so
we
found
things
that
wasn't
up
to
code,
so
we
put
everything
up
the
code.
G
That
was
one
of
my
big
push
during
this
renovation.
So
our
next
push
for
this
is
to
try
to
fix
the
outside.
So
you
know
the
building
is
a
beautiful
building,
but
it
has
some
eyesores
on
it.
Some
if
you,
if
you
go
down
school
street,
you
see
right
where
you
go
down
to
dennis's
court.
There's
some
part
of
the
sidewalk.
That's
deteriorating,
that's
being
held
up
by
by
brick
and
by
cobblestone
that's
falling
off,
and
we
have
to
repair
that
and
we're
apparent
inside
of
the
building.
G
But
it's
important
to
me
that
we
that
that
building
looks
beautiful,
because
a
lot
of
people
come
here
and
we
do
a
lot
out
of
that
building.
We
we
host
every
year
thanksgiving
where
we
feed
up
to
twelve
to
twelve
hundred
individuals,
meals,
veterans,
the
police
departments,
fire
departments
and
all
that
and
the
sales
you
can't
go
home
for
thanksgiving.
We,
we
feed
them
thanksgiving
meals
out
of
there.
G
We
do
a
lot
of
events
out
of
there
that
the
public
comes
in
to
see
and
and
we're
also
a
part
of
the
famed
heritage
foundation
where
part
of
their
stops
when
they
come
through
and
do
they
once
they
go
back
and
do
their
tour.
So
it's
important
to
up
to
me
as
a
base
commander
and
also
as
a
district
commander
for
new
england
that
we
get
this
building.
G
Look
like
a
gem
of
groton
city,
groton
city
has
so
much
to
offer
and
I'm
a
I'm
a
strong
advocate
for
the
members
of
the
city
council,
the
mayor
and
what
the
groton
city
employees
have
done
for
submarine
veterans
and
our
sailors.
No
other
area.
No,
no
other
activity
within
groton
municipal
area
holds
up
hold
the
candle
to
you
guys.
You
guys
blow
us
away
what
I
think
the
support
we
get
out
of
groton
city
is
tremendous.
G
You
guys
have
to
have
donated
in
the
past.
It
has
been
been
very
much
welcomed,
but
that's
what
that's
basically,
what
we
have
we're
using
the
money
this
year
to
repair
outside
our
goal
is
to
get
a
new
fire
escape
in
where
kids
can't
go
play
on
it.
Good
that
scares
me
having
kids
go
playing
on
our
fire
escape
it's
safe,
but
you
know
you
never
know
what
happened.
We
want
to
make
it
where
it's
only
accessible
for
emergencies
only
and
by
those
trained
individuals.
G
Subject
to
that,
I'm
open
to
any
questions.
Anything
you
have
to
ask
me.
E
G
In
the
past,
the
city
has
donated
300
and
that's
just
fine
we're
not
asking
for
a
lot
of
money
from
the
city.
We
just
it's
one
of
our
yearly
things
we
sent
out
to
our
members
and
to
our
donators
people,
those
who
donate
in
a
pass.
So
whatever,
whatever
the
city,
feels
comfortable
donating
very
much.
G
If
it's
five
dollars
it's
five
dollars,
I'd
be
happy
with
that.
I'm
not
gonna!
Watch,
that's
fine
beggars
can't
be
beggars,
can't
be
choosy,
but
it's
it's
just
an
honor
to
you
know
to
talk
to
you
guys
about
it.
I'm
very
and
mayor
henry
would
tell
you
how
much
I
love
pine
city.
I
look
at
dragon
living
rotten
city,
so
I
can
vote
gratin
city.
You
know
I
thought
about
making.
You
know
the
40
school
street,
my
second
home
and
I
live
out
of
there.
So
I
can
vote.
G
G
I
Do
you
have
the
floor?
Thank
you,
mayor
does
finance
director
yuhaas
have
a
record
of
what
we've
donated
before
and
how
much
we
have
left
in
the
account
where
these
donations
come.
I
J
Mr
mayor,
I
can
answer
the
the
first
question.
At
least
the
council
donated
300
to
the
same
request,
basically
for
just
a
general
request
for
funds.
I
believe
that
was
the
first
time
and
the
last
time
that
it
was
done.
I
don't
know
that
we
received
a
request
last
year
and
as
for
how
much
you
still
have
left
of
that,
I
don't
know
so.
My
apologies,
I'm
doing
that.
K
So
so
there's
like
jill
said
and
mr
walsh
said
that
in
2019
we
did
a
donation
of
300
in
april
and
then
there
was
no
donation
last
fiscal
year
and
currently
to
date
there
is
sixteen
hundred
dollars
remaining
for
donations.
We've
donated
three
thousand
four
hundred
so
far.
I
B
Well,
30
june,
but
you're
right
joe,
I
don't
think
we
have
any
others
in
the
pipeline.
Now
that
we're
aware
right,
we
didn't
get
any
before.
J
That's
correct:
we
don't
have
any
other
requests
at
the
moment.
I
that
doesn't
mean
we
won't
get
any,
but
at
the
moment
we
don't
have
any.
B
I
Going
to
finish
yeah,
just
to
finish,
I'm
sorry,
my
thought
is
I
you
know
we
designate
this
money
every
year
to
donate
and
we
don't
always
donate
the
entire
amount,
because
we
don't
always
get
enough
requests
considering
that
they
didn't
put
in
a
request.
Last
year,
I,
in
considering
that
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
our
our
veterans
have
a
sense
of
place
in
the
city
of
grant,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
maintain
that.
I
B
Okay,
where
did
councillor
mccabe
go
councillor?
Mccabe
you
have
the
floor.
D
Yes,
thank
you.
I
I
have
to
echo
what
gwen
deputy
mayor
depot
just
said.
I
was
gonna
say
the
same
thing,
especially
considering
on
top
of
what
she
said
in
in
terms
of
that,
creating
that
sense
of
community
for
our
veterans,
but
also
the
fact
that
it's
a
beautification
project
as
well
as
a
safety
project
with
the
fire
escapes.
I.
I
really
think
this
is
a
a
worthy
worthy
place
to
donate,
so
I
I
would
agree
to
up
the
amount
to
500..
D
B
I
also
want
to
add
that,
in
addition
to
everything
else
that
that
jeff
said
that
submits
does
remember
they
because
they're
the
submarine
organization
near
the
base-
and
this
is
the
only
naval
submarine
school
in
the
united
states-
that
our
young
sailors
get
invited
here
to
different
events.
They
get
invited
to
be
fed
by
other
commands.
Commands
have
functions
at
this
facility
and
many
of
you
have
attended
the
functions
down
at
the
thresher
memorial.
B
Excuse
me
flasher
memorial,
whether
it's,
whether
it's
to
honor
the
the
loss
of
the
thresher
or
whether
it's
to
to
mark
memorial
day
or
whether
it's
to
mark
other
military
events.
B
Subvets
is
always
there
and
they
plant
the
they
plant
that
out,
and
they
are
actively
involved
in
that
part
of
the
park
and
in
that
part
of
the
community,
through
all
the
the
the
the
memorial
events
that
they
host
there
we
bring
in
sub
school
to
come
in
and
they
man
the
flags.
That's
also
a
ceremony
with
the
towing
of
the
bells
that
they
do
to
commemorate
those
that
have
been
lost
at
sea,
and
so
the
serving
veterans
here
are
actively
involved
in
subvets
members.
B
B
Okay,
then,
I
need
a
motion
to
move
this
to
the
mayor
and
council
meeting
of
april
fifth,
the
amount
of
five
you
said:
five
hundred
dollars
right,
okay
to
the
five
hundred
dollars,
still
moved.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
any
further
discussion.
B
G
You
I'm
very
humbled
for
you,
invited
me
to
this
meeting
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
in
the
future
I'll
be
turning
over
base
commander.
Unfortunately,
in
three
months
my
time
is
up,
but
we
have
we've
got
we're
gonna
be
in
some
good
hands,
so
I
still
be
around.
Don't
worry
mayor,
mr
mayor
I'll,
be
around.
Don't
worry,
okay,.
B
G
G
G
Please
do
anybody
who
wants
to
come
take
a
tour,
please
let
me
know
and
I'll
bring
you
around
the
building.
I
just
make
sure
to
go
sour
away
for
a
while.
So
with
that,
I,
like
your
permission,
if
I
can
step
away.
B
Okay,
we're
gonna
go
to
773,
which
is
parks
and
rec.
The
first
thing
is
2021
eastern
point,
beach
rules
and
regulations.
This
will
be
presented
by
partial
right
director,
mary
hill.
L
L
There's,
a
minor
changes,
the
first
one
I'm
going
to
go
to
is
on
the
second
page,
under
daily
rates
from
five
they
the
daily
rates.
They
went
back
to
the
5
pm
to
8
pm,
half
price
parking
daily
for
everyone
and
that's
followed
through.
If
you
go
back
to
page
one,
our
goal
will
be
that
we'll
have
the
step,
the
beach
staff
until
8
pm
every
evening.
L
So
I
know
this
was
a
big
topic
of
discussion
last
year
with
the
council
in
regards
to
the
gate,
hours
and
half
price
after
five,
and
we
went
to
faf
price
after
six
for
non-residents
and
free
for
residents.
The
committee
feels
the
gate
rate
has
been
this.
It
hasn't,
there's
been
no
differential,
it's
always
been
you're
a
city
resident
or
a
non-resident.
You
got
charged
the
same
at
the
bait
at
the
gates,
and
so
they
want
to
keep
it
that
way.
So
they
brought
this
back.
L
One
of
the
hiccups
last
year
was
you
know:
there's
staff
leaves
at
six
we're
planning
to
keep
staff
there
through
eight
o'clock,
so
lifeguards
and
supervisors
and
patrol
will
be
there.
So
that's
one
of
the
changes
they're
bringing
forth
to
you,
one,
two,
three
and
page:
four,
the
only
other
change
on
page.
I
have
it's
on
page
four,
so
it's
rule
number
13..
L
We
used
to
have
just
no
tents
or
screens
allowed
on
the
beach,
but
in
the
last
couple
of
years
we've
gotten
people
bringing
those
10
by
10,
easy
pops
to
the
beach
which
are
fairly
large.
They
take
up
a
lot
of
space,
they're
kind
of
dangerous
if
the
wind
catches
them
because
they
have
big
metal
legs
and
they
have
the
you
know
the
canopy
part,
that's
keeping
them
up.
L
So
the
beach
and
parks
committee
would
like
to
make
that
say
no
tent
screens
or
pop-ups
allowed
on
the
sandy
beach
area
or
the
tyler
house
lawn
and
we'll
still
let
the
small
child
cabanas
be
there
as
long
as
they're,
not
in
restricting
their
lifeguard's
view
or
the
path
to
the
water
and
the
staff
has
the
right
to
request
that
any
item
be
removed
from
the
sand.
L
So
those
are
the
those
are
just.
Those
are
the
minor
changes
to
the
rules
and
regulations
for
this
year
of
this
document.
As
you
all
aware,
last
year
we
did
have
some
temporary
amendments
to
these
rules
due
to
the
fact
that
we
were
in
covet,
and
we
still
have
that
that
process
going
on
too
mayor.
Would
you
like
me
to
share
that
some
of
the
amendments
right
them
right
now?
Let's.
B
Yeah,
let's
yeah:
let's
do
that.
Let's,
let's
share
those
the
changes
from
last
year,
because
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
people
interested.
Let
me
let
me
give
a
little
bit
of
background
work
here.
So
mary
and
I
sit
down.
B
We
looked
at
the
ground
rules
that
we
laid
for
last
year
and
we
looked
at
at
how
restricted
they
were
and
we
understand
that
there
were
people
that
were
unabby,
but
we
evaluated
where
we
are
now
with
the
vaccines
and
with
where
we
are
with
codes
and
masking
and
those
kinds
of
things.
So
there
are
some
things
that
we're
going
to
relax
and
mary
will
now
go
through
those.
So
mary
I'll.
Let
you
go
ahead
and
start.
L
Okay,
thank
you.
So
just
you
all
know,
the
beach
will
open
as
normal
on
june
19th,
which
is
our
normal
starting
point,
which
is
father's
day
weekend.
What
we're
changing
this
year
is
last
year,
we're
at
50
capacity
for
remember
for
people
on
the
beach
we're
going
to
go
to
seminars
start
off
at
75,
which
is
about
350
people
on
the
beach
and
then
we're
going
to
do
75
for
parking,
which
is
175
parking
spaces.
So
that
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
space
to
accommodate
everybody.
L
We
will
open
the
beach
to
everybody
this
year.
There
will
be
no
restrictions
in
regards
to
resident
versus
non-resident.
L
We
are
going
to
push
that
everybody
have
a
beach
pass
like
you
know,
pre-purchase
beach,
beach
pass,
because
the
daily
daily
rate
at
the
gate
is
still
in
discussion
of
whether
or
not
we
want
to
handle
money
again
at
this
handle
money
at
the
gate
this
year
with
covet
still
being
in
place,
but
that's
an
ongoing
conversation.
We
are
looking
at
our
register,
making
it
a
pos
system,
so
we
could
take
credit
cards
instead
of
only
cash.
So
that's
an
ongoing
process,
but
at
least
we'll
go
up
to
75
capacity.
L
To
start
we're
going
to
start
beach
pass
sales
on
may
8th
online
and
then
also
the
mail-in
process
and
we'll
see
where
things
go
with
guidelines.
Potentially
letting
people
come
into
the
building
to
purchase
passes,
if
required,
some
of
our
seniors
struggle
with
the
online
stuff
and
also
making
copies
of
their
of
their
documents
to
get
to
us.
L
The
miners,
under
the
age
of
16,
will
be
accompanied
by
adult,
but
anybody
last
year
was
anybody
under
the
age
of
18
was
accompanied
by
adult,
but
with
our
16
year
olds
getting
vaccinated
that
agent
can
get
vaccinated.
We've
decided
that
they
can
come
on
to
the
beach
unaccompanied.
L
The
concession
stand
will,
as
you
guys
know,
will
be
open
this
year
per
prior
discussions.
You
know,
we've
had
ernie
come
in
and
we
have
groton
public
food
and
public
school
food
services
coming
back
ernie
and
I
will
work
on
an
access
pattern
to
follow
so
there's
a
an
entrance
and
an
exit
so
that
we
don't
have
any
bottleneck
areas
so
that
we
can
have
flow.
L
So
my
different
ideas
might
be
like
disposable,
tablecloths
that
fit
on
the
picnic
table,
so
they
can
just
roll
that
up
and
throw
it
away,
and
then
we
can
put
another
one
down.
The
bathrooms
will
be
monitored
and
limited
occupancy
like
in
the
past.
L
We
will
still
require,
because,
right
now,
mass
mandate
is
still
part
of
the
state
executive
orders,
so
masks
will
be
required
to
be
worn
from
vehicle
to
destination
at
the
beach
social
distancing
will
be
enforced,
but
it's
going
we're
going
to
drop
it
down
to
10
a
10
foot,
this
social
distancing
of
10
feet
as
opposed
to
the
15
feet
that
we
had
last
year.
I
A
couple
things
there
was
a
referral
made
last
year
about
opening
the
beach
on
memorial
day
and
I
think
it
just
got
left
in
committee,
but
I
bring
it
up
because
last
year,
when
covid
became
an
issue,
what
happened
was
other
beaches
were
open
memorial
day
and
we
weren't
open,
but
the
gate
was
open.
So
people
were
coming
to
our
beach
when
there
were
restrictive
rules
at
other
beaches
and
just
you
know,
a
lot
of
people
at
the
beach.
B
L
So
so
the
committee
did
look
at
that,
so
they
have
opened
once
we
opened
once
memorial
day
weekend.
It
was
the
year
that
the
beach
had
opened
to
everybody
in
2002.
from
a
standpoint
of
operations
it.
If
you
go
a
typical
year
operationally,
it
wasn't
financially
feasible,
it
wasn't
financially
sound.
There
wasn't
as
many
people
on
the
beach
there
was.
You
know.
Last
year
was
an
exceptional
year
in
regards
to
nobody
was
in
school.
Nobody
was
working.
L
A
lot
of
people
are
home
in
may
last
year
before
before
in
the
early
june
the
prior
year
that
they
tried
to
open
memorial
day
weekend,
we
lost
money.
The
other
thing
that
was
discussed-
and
I
shared
with
the
committee-
is
this-
isn't
budgeted
for
this
year.
My
budget
doesn't
my
budget.
Doesn't
my
budget
goes
to
june
30th?
If
I
were
opening
memorial
day
weekend,
I'd
have
to
find
six
weeks
worth
of
payroll
monies.
L
That's
not
budgeted
for
because
it
was
brought
up
during
the
during
the
year
that
the
budget
after
the
budget
was
already
approved.
So
that
would
be
something
we'd
have
to
if
we
wanted
to
move
forward,
or
we
have
to
find
the
money
first
and
foremost
if
we
wanted
open
memorial
day
or
if
we
wanted
to
do
it
moving
forward.
We'd
have
to
budget
that
accordingly,
because
we
we
don't
budget.
Oh
it's
sorry,
it's
not
six
weeks.
L
It
would
be
an
additional
three,
so
that
was
discussed
with
the
committee
of
the
beach
and
parks
committee,
and
so
that's
where
they
stand
on
that
and
with
staying
over
continuing
to
stay
open
our
opening
day
being
june
19.
B
L
Yes,
mayor,
you
are
correct
our
three
out
of
our
we
have
four
beach
supervisors,
three
of
which
are
teachers,
so
they're
not
available
to
school
year
ends
and
right.
Now
the
lifeguards
that
we
have
coming
back
are
all
high
school
students.
L
So
we
would,
we
wouldn't
have
supervisors
and
or
guards
on
the
beach
due
to
the
fact
that
they're
not
available
or
we'd
have
or
or
we'd
have
to
re-hire
we'd
have
to
hire
new
people
to
do
that,
and
we
have
very
good
supervisors
and
lifeguards
right
now
that
we
really
don't
want
to
lose
so.
B
We
we
could,
you
know,
let
me
ask
you
that
I
mean
I
I'm
not
trying
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
I'm
just
the
since
it
was
brought
up.
We'll
just
ask
the
question
you
and
I
could
look
at
if
we
opened
earlier
what
the
impact
of
reduced
staffing
might
do.
As
far
as
we
may
have
to
put
up
the
signs,
no
lifeguards
on
the
beach,
but
we
could
still
have
beach
supervisors.
Maybe
that
could
police
the
area
for
lack
of
a
better
term
to
enforce
the
rules.
L
That
is
something
we
could
do
if
we
went
with
our
current
supervisors.
We'd
have
one
we
are
posting
for
an
additional
beach
supervisor
and
unfortunately,
that
process
hasn't
started.
I
mean
just
looked
at
applications
in
last
week.
If
we
got
somebody
who
wasn't
in
education
and
wasn't
a
teacher
and
we
could
get
somebody
else.
If
not,
then
it
falls
back
on
me
having
to
be
down
at
the
beach
and
also
trying
to
run
the
department.
I
Obviously
that
all
makes
sense-
and
I
I
remember
discussing
it
a
little
bit,
but
I
just
didn't
we
don't.
I
guess
we
don't
really
have
a
formal
way
of
like
reporting
back
from
committees
so
much
other
than
in
communication
reports.
But
so
I
just
I
hadn't
heard
the
conclusion
of
that
before,
but.
I
I
You
know
week
and
two
weeks
before
the
beach
was
officially
open
and
people
who
wanted
to
break
the
rules
flocked
to
our
beach,
and
I
don't
I
just
don't
like
the
idea
of
encouraging
that
it
created
a
little
bit
of
a
problem
last
year,
but
that's
the
only
reason
I
I
bring
it
up,
but
I
completely
understand
why
it
doesn't
really
work
well
with
the
system
that
we
have,
because
the
employees
we
have
are
in
education
or
in
school.
I
have
more
questions.
I
M
I
I
just
wanted
to
start
off
by
saying.
Well,
it
was
discussed
and
it
should
be
in
all
the
notes
that
that
that
concluded
all
of
the
committee
meetings-
and
I
was
gonna-
add
to
what
she
said
mayor
about
the
one
of
the
things
where
this
the
staffing.
You
know,
and
I
would
also
say
that.
M
You
know
moving
it
to
moving
it
up
to
what
would
that
be?
Memorial
was,
I
mean,
left
30th.
What
was
that
the
last
week
of?
May
you
know
you
know
I
mean
you
know,
what's
this
what's
to
say
that
we
don't
start
having
weather
beginning
of
may.
It's
like
there
has
to
be
a
cut
off.
You
know,
so
you
know
one
could
argue
that
the
first
week
of
may
the
people
are
going
to
start
flocking
there.
M
M
So,
as
far
as
the
the
people
that
are
on
the
beach,
you
know
the
liability
quote.
Unquote
liability,
I
mean
we,
we
could
have
people
surfing
right
now.
You
know
that's
not
our
liability.
You
know.
We've
also
discussed
that
I
believe.
Actually
you
said
that
you
mentioned
it.
B
I
I
saw
that
there
was
a
question
brought
up
about
the
well.
I
asked
them.
I
think
I
mentioned
this
before
too
about
washington
park,
but
I
saw
that
there
was
a
question
brought
up
about
the
basketball
and
that's
at
the
beach
and
it
looked
like
director
hill
was
going
to
look
into
that
and
I
was
just
curious.
If
she
did
see.
I
think
the
cdc
still
recommends
that
we
not
have
basketball
hoops
up.
I
tried
to
look
it
up.
The
other
day.
B
Well,
mary
and
I
talked
about
it
this
morning.
I
know
that
on
facebook,
different
places
had
some
places
had
hoops
up.
Some
places
didn't
have
hoops
up
the
reason
we
made
the
decision
was
based
on
cdc
guidelines
and
what
the
executive
orders
were.
They
talked
about
league
play,
but
they
also
talked
about
wearing
masks
and
social
distancing
when,
when
the
kids
are
playing
now
with
basketball
inside
they're
having
to
wear
a
mask
and
those
kinds
of
things,
but
I
don't
think
mary
mary
did
you
get
a
chance
to
look
at
that
today?
L
B
So
so
we
will
do
research,
we
will
get
a
definitive
answer
and
we
will
get
that
out
to
all
the
council
and
we'll
probably
post
something
on
facebook
to
try
to.
Let
people
know
why
we
made
the
decision
that
we've
made
so
hold
on
mayor
depot.
Let's
go
with
councillor
chef,
phil.
E
Thank
you
mayor
what
was
governor
lamont's
order
regarding
again
opening
up
the
venues
as
far
as
restaurants
and
stuff
like
that?
Does
outdoor
sports
activities,
what
is
the
maximum
allowed
for
outdoor
activities?
Has
that
been
discussed
to
wear
outdoor
basketball
playing?
E
Would
that
also
be
part
of
that,
along
with,
let's
say,
concert,
events
and
so
forth?
What
was
the
governor's
order
in
reference
to
that.
B
Yeah
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
have
to
pull
that
up.
We
when
we
looked
at
this
before
the
town,
so
the
town
has
some
hoops
up
and
some
hoops
still
now
the
town
looked
at
outside
outdoor
activities.
We
looked
at
the
outside
outdoor
activities,
but
we
also
looked
at
basketball
and
the
thing
about
the
close
contact
and
proximity,
and
those
kind
of
things
is
why
we
kept
the
hoops
down
because
of
the
way
that
the
spread
was
now
with
the
vaccines
and
things
like
that.
B
We'll
see
if
there's
been
additional
guidance
that
has
come
out
on
that
and
if
there's
additional
guidance
that
comes
out
that
says
that
we
can
put
basketball
who's
back
up,
we'll
put
basketball
hoops
back
up,
I
mean
it's,
it
is
still
about
maintaining
safety,
and
I
know
there
are
people,
gonna,
say
personal
rights
and
be
responsible
and
those
kind
of
things,
but
we've
went
we've
been
through
this
for
a
year,
so
I
think
people
understand
why
we
do
what
we
do,
but
we
can
go.
We
will.
B
We
are
in
the
process
of
looking
at
this
again
to
see
if
there's
been
any
changes
that
started
on
friday.
That
would
impact
this
so
far
we
didn't
see
anything,
but
we
will
we'll
look
at
it
again
and,
like
I
said,
we'll
get
back
to
the
council
and
we'll
let
people
know
on
facebook,
counselors.
L
May
I
address
that
real
quick.
This
is
mary,
so
there
are
guidelines.
There
are
guidelines
for
outdoor
recreation,
but
they're
still
required
to
wear
a
mask
and
they're
still
required
to
be
six
feet
distancing.
So
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
you
play
an
open
game
of
basketball
on
a
basketball
court
staying
six
feet
apart.
Those
are
the
outli.
Those
are
the
guidelines
for
outdoor
recreation
right
now
and
those
are
the
guidelines
for
restaurants
too.
A
restaurant
could
be
full
capacity,
but
it
still
has
to
be.
L
E
Well,
mary,
I'm
I'm
not
sure
if
one
could
eat
within
six
feet
of
one
another
and
and
have
a
mask
on
so
I
haven't
figured
that
part
out
yet
so
how
that's
you
know
more
contained
than
being
outdoor
out
have
an
outdoor
basketball
game.
So
I'm
you
know,
but
again,
I'm
not
sure
how
governor
lamont
has
set
that
piece
up
as
far
as
comparing
outside
with
indoor
restaurant
dining
so
well,.
B
And
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
debating
how
dining
and
basketball
is
we're
not
going
to
get
into
a
comparison
and
contrast
of
basketball
and
lunch,
but
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
look
at
the
the
rules.
There
are
some
rules
that
have
come
out
that
talks
about
social
recreation.
It
talks
about
face
coverings,
it
talks
about
events
and
stadiums
and
there's
different
things.
B
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
look
specifically
at
the
rule,
changes
and
see
what
the
current
rules
are
associated
with
basketball
and
then
we
will
let
you
know
what
they
are
and
if
it
is
to
put
the
basketball
hoops
back
up,
we
will
put
the
basketball
hoofs
back
up,
but
so
that's
what
we'll
do
all
right,
deputy
mayor
depot.
You
had
a
couple
more
questions.
I
Well,
one
thing:
I
I
thought
that
last
year
we
got
a
copy
of
the
rules
with
the
changes
in
a
different
color
so
that
we
could
see
them
easily,
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
like
that
better,
but
it
was
just
easier
to
see
because
I
can't
see
all
the
rule
changes.
The
other
thing
is
I'm.
You
know,
I'm
not
sure
the
reasoning
on
changing
the
rules
back.
We
changed
it
last
year,
so
that
city
residents
could
get
in
free
after
six
o'clock.
I
We
did
that
for
a
reason
so
that
people
have
access
to
the
beach,
even
if
they
can't
afford
a
beach
pass.
I
am
against
changing
that
back
to
the
rules
that
we
had
before.
I
fought
hard
for
it
last
year,
because
I
think
that
city
residents
who
pay
taxes
should
have
access
to
the
beach
for
free,
while
the
sun
is
still
up
and
in
the
evening
when
it's
not
as
busy
a
lot
of
the
people
who
stay
all
day
are
gone
for
the
day
anyways.
I
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
changing
that
back
and
I'm
I'm
not
entirely
sure.
If
the
motivation
is
budget,
you
know
the
parks
and
rec
budget
isn't
entirely
encapsulated
it.
The
it's
not
parks
and
rec
doesn't
fund
itself.
I
So
if
it
takes
extra
taxpayer
dollars
a
few
extra
dollars
from
the
general
fund
to
finance
for
people
who
can't
afford
a
beach
pass
to
get
into
the
beach
for
free,
as
I
said
last
year,
I
think
that's
important
to
do
it's
a
you
know:
public
owned
beach,
the
public
pays
taxes
and
there
are
some
people
who
cannot
afford
a
beach
pass,
who
are
choosing
to
buy
a
week
of
groceries
instead
of
a
beach
bath.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
like
that.
L
So
I
will
refer
the
recommendation
again
from
the
beach
and
parks
committee.
They
looked
long
and
hard
at
this
again
this
year,
they're
trying
to
stay
in
compliance
with
the
rule,
the
law
that
went
into
effect
in
20
2002.
In
regards
to
that,
you
should
not
have
a
disparity
between
residents
and
non-residents.
I
do
have
a
handful
of
committee.
Members
that
are
were
still
on
the
that
were
on
the
committee
there,
and
they
were
advised
by
the
attorney
to
make
sure
that
the
rate
at
the
gate
stayed
the
same
consistently
for
everybody.
L
That
was
their
first
concern.
We
do
have
a
non-resident
and
a
resident
rate
for
beach
passes,
which
is
inc.
You
know
we
can
do
that
as
long
as
it's
not
an
exorbitantly
different.
You
know
we
pay
32
for
a
resident
and
it's
320
for
a
non.
That
is
not
there's
a
disparity
there,
but
when
they
were
doing
this,
you
know
20
20
years
ago,
20,
almost
20
or
19
18
years
ago.
That
was
the
recommendation
from
the
attorney
so
that
we
were
in
compliance
with
that
law.
L
The
other
thing
that
they
took
into
consideration
is
the
operations
of
checking
everybody
who
everybody's,
so
anybody
who
did
not
come
in
after
anybody
who
came
in
last
year,
if
we
had
a
gate
rate
that
came
in
after
six
o'clock
would
have
to.
If
they
didn't
have
a
pass
in
their
car,
they
would
have
been
stopped.
They
would
have
been
at
how
we
would
have
asked
for
their
registration,
because
that's
what
we
do
for
a
beach
pass
and
then
we
had
to
verify
whether
they
lived
in
the
city
or
not.
L
So
there
is
an
operational
issue
in
regards
to
how
I
mean
we're
going
to
be
doing.
There's
different
people
at
the
gate
in
the
evenings:
they're
not
the
same
consistent
people
every
day
at
five
o'clock
or
six
o'clock,
and
so
they
felt
when
we
were
staying
within
the
guidelines
of
the
20
2002
ruling,
which
we
got
a
handful
of
flack
about
last
year,
and
so
this
is
their
way
of.
Let's
keep
it
the
disparity.
Not
there
have
everybody's
pay
the
same.
If
they
choose
not
to
buy
a
beach
pass
right
away.
L
Beach
passes
are
32
for
a
resident.
The
beach
is
open
for
80
days.
So
there's
you
know
it's
mathematically.
I
mean
it's.
It's
it's
a
very
inexpensive
way
to
enjoy
a
facility
that
the
city
does
operate
and
maintain,
so
that
was
their
reasonings
behind
it,
and-
and
so
that's
why
they
would
like
to
go
back
to
that.
L
Last
year
we
didn't
have
a
we
didn't
charge
at
all
at
the
gate
they
had
to
have
a
beach
pass
to
get
in.
We
didn't
have
we
didn't
handle
money
at
the
gate
we
didn't
have
the
register
there.
B
Right,
so
if
we
did
that
this
year
and
just
made
it
consistent
that
after
five
or
after
six
then
you
get
in
for
free,
then
there
wouldn't
be
an
issue
with
a
disparity
and
we
would
still
be
able
to
allow
access
to
the
beach
for
those
that
couldn't
afford
it.
To
come
to
the
beach.
Is
that
kind
of
true.
L
It
could
be
I'd
have
to
bring
this
back
to
the
beach
and
parks
community,
because
this
is
their
recommendation,
not
mine.
They.
You
know
this
is
their
recommendations
to
the
council.
They,
I
would
probably
I
could
probably
speak
on
behalf
of
some
of
them-
that
if
you
chose
to
not
charge
after
six
o'clock,
then
there'd
be
no
staff
down
there
at
all
and
we'd
have
to
maintain
bathrooms
and
and
and
and
whatnot,
because
the
concession
stand
would
stay
open.
L
So
I
I
know
there's
a
balance
there
there's
things
that
we
have
to
maintain.
We
have
to
make
sure
the
bathrooms
are
kept
clean,
because
we
have
covered
restrictions
in
place
and
our
guidelines,
you
know,
but
if
you're
going
to
stop
you're
going
to
allow
everybody,
I
mean
it
worked
great
for
three
years.
There
was
no
issues
for
three
years.
All
of
a
sudden.
Last
year
it
became
an
issue
that
we
were
opening
we're
charging
half
price
from
five
to
eight.
L
I
A
few
things
I
don't
understand
how
that
the
argument
that
we
can't
charge
a
different
amount,
we
charge
a
different
amount
for
the
passes
and
the
daily
rate,
the
paying
half
the
daily
rate.
The
discrepancy
between
that
and
letting
city
residents
in
is
not
any
different
than
the
discrepancy
between
the
annual
beach
pass
rate
for
residents
and
non-residents.
So
to
me,
that's
kind
of
a
silly
argument.
Well,.
L
L
So
that
way
you
were
not
across
the
board,
making
it
a
very
resident
non-resident
situation,
because
that's
what
they
were
trying
to
get
away
from
in
2002
is
that
it's
why
the
lawsuit
came
about,
because
a
non-resident
was
denied
access
to
a
beach
in
another
part
of
connecticut.
H
Okay,
thank
you
deputy
mayor,
deep,
I'm
not.
I
I
thought
that
it
was
free
for
residents
after
a
particular
time
because
it
had
been
for
a
long
time.
So
I
wasn't
even
aware
and
that's
why
it
became
an
issue
last
year,
because
I
got
several
complaints
from
people
who
used
to
go
to
the
beach
in
the
evening.
I
think,
if
we're,
if
we're
gonna
be
sticklers
about
you
know,
it
has
to
be
the
same
at
the
gate.
I
would
be
in
favor
of
doing
what
the
mayor
suggested
and
making
it
free
for
everyone
after
6
p.m,
non-residents.
I
I
would.
I
I
Anyways
people
pay
their
taxes,
and
just
because
someone's
not
paying
a
fee
doesn't
mean
we
can't
have
staff
there.
The
money
doesn't
come
directly
from
those
fees
they're
paying
at
the
moment,
and
I
don't
think
I
just
think
this
is
a
bad
idea,
we're
taking
benefits
away
from
the
residents,
for
I
don't
think,
a
good
enough
reason.
M
M
Things
from
the
committee,
you
know
it's
not.
You
know
that's
going
to
feel
like
everyone's
bashing
on
on
the
director.
You
know,
but
I
know
that
sitting
in
the
in
one
of
those
there
were
certain
things
that
came
to
play
for
that,
especially
with
the
staff
and
somebody
people
we
have
to
pay
for.
The
city
has
to
pay
for
the
lifeguards,
the
lights
that
are
on
you
know
and
with
with
the
minimum
wage
and
all
that
a
lot
of
stuff
going
up.
You
know,
that's
that's
going
to
cost
us.
M
I
and
I,
in
discussing
this.
The
committee
is
very
adamant
that
if
we
do
this,
then
there's
going
to
be
no
staff
there
and
that's
it
you
know.
So
you
know.
I
think
that
we
have
to
look
at
that
and
director
director
rome
hill
brought
this
up
last
year.
Is
that
you
gotta
look
at
what
you
know?
Do
you
look
at
the
beach
as
a
beach?
Or
do
you
look
at
your
as
a
service?
You
know.
Do
you
look
at
the
concession
as
a
service?
M
B
M
If
we
can,
I
understand
that,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
isn't
any
different
from
what
you
just
stated.
If
it's
not
going
to
pass,
let's
just
move
on
with
it,
so
we
can
go
back
to
the
committee
and
we
can
just
you
know
this
isn't
the
first
time
this
happened.
So,
if
we're
not
going
to,
if
it's
not
going
to
pass,
let's
just
move
on
from
it.
B
Is
there
any
other
discussion
from
the
council
so
councillor
mccabe.
D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
I've
sort
of
hesitated
jumping
in
on
this,
because
I
think
the
debate
was
already
going
quite
well,
demonstrating
the
the
two
opposing
points
I
I
have
to
admit.
I
am
also
leaning
towards
your
proposal
of
allowing
the
res
residents
and
non-residents
to
be
able
to
have
free
entry
into
the
park.
They'd
be
able
to
go
use
the
concessions
which
would
potentially
be
extra
revenue
in
the
concessions
area
for
people
say
starting
at
I
don't
know
6
or
6
30
pm.
D
I
think
that
if
we're
allowing
people
to
come
in
and
use
a
beach
that
it
might
be
a
good
idea
to
continue
having
staff
on
the
beach
until
8.,
I
think
the
budget
for
this
year
is
probably
already
in
place.
I
think
that's
what
mary
said.
D
So
we
can
assess
at
the
end
of
the
season
whether
you
know,
there's
been
impacts
in
terms
of
revenue
versus
being
able
to
pay
the
staff
on
the
beach
and
what
the
impacts
are
and
so
that,
as
we
talk
about
next
year
and
and
setting
the
budget
for
next
year,
we
can
take
those
things
into
account.
D
I
guess
that's
where
I'm
leaning
and
I
thought
I
should
express
it.
Thank
you.
I
You
have
the
floor.
Thank
you.
I
you
know,
especially
considering,
as
everyone
pointed
out
last
year,
we
had
different
roles
because
of
covid,
so
I
don't
understand
where
the
instigation
of
changing
this
back
is
because
it
didn't
impact
anything
last
year,
apparently,
because
we
required
people
to
have
a
beach
pass
to
get
in
no
matter
what
and
we
didn't
do
daily
rates.
I
So
I
I
don't
really
understand,
and
I'm
by
no
means
am
I
attacking
the
director,
it's
not
about
that
whatsoever.
It's
it's
more
about
making
sure
that
our
residents
have
access.
And
yes,
people
do
need
to.
You
know,
understand
the
value
of
things,
but
there
are
people
in
our
city
who
pay
taxes
and
also
don't
have
the
money
to
pay
for
a
beach
bath,
so
that
that
does
happen.
So
they
are
paying
to
maintain
the
beach.
Their
money
goes
to
maintain
the
beach,
but
then
they
don't
get
to
use
it.
I
So
I
just
have
a
problem
with
that
and
I
think
you
know
if
that
means
we
have
to
go
back
to
the
beach
and
parks
committee
and
have
them
look
at
it.
I
don't
think
that's
a
rule.
Change
that
we
they
need
for
budget
reasons
and
b.
I
don't
think
that's
right
for
the
residents
to
restrict
their
use.
I
L
I
don't
have
it
might
yeah
it
went
to
40
couple
years
ago,
so
that
might
just
be
a
typo.
It
was
32,
but
now
it's
up
to
40..
I
don't
have
that
on
my
paper,
so
I
don't
know
if
I
have
the
same
document
as
you
parking
fee
will
be
40
for
those
without
a
season
pass
too
no
matter
what
day
of
the
week
a
special
event
falls
on
is
that
where
you're.
I
L
So
yeah
it
went
from
so
that
was
probably
where
one
of
those,
if
we
had
it
in
different
colors
for
you,
you'd
see
it
right.
Okay,
so.
L
Yeah,
so
it
changed
to
forty
dollars
a
couple
years
ago.
So
I'm
not
quite
sure.
So
that's
something
we
can
look
at
yeah.
This
could
just
be
a
typo
okay,.
I
See
her,
I
was
just
gonna
say:
I'm
not
ready
to
vote
on
this
for
one
I'd
like
to
look
at
to
compare
the
actual
rules
from
last
year
to
these,
since
I
don't
have
the
change
change,
colored
sheet
thing,
so
I
can't
see
where
all
the
changes
are,
and
I
am,
I
definitely
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
change
that
one
rule
about
residents
getting
in
free.
Maybe
the
thing
to
do.
Could
I
know
that
we
got
a
legal
opinion
in
2002
that
was
20
years
ago?
L
Okay
keith,
can
we
address
that
real
quick
in
regards
to
the
state
is
actually
doing
a
study
this
year,
yeah
in
regards
to
a
complaint
from
a
or
or
bill
that
was
going
to
come
forth
from
new
haven
regarding
making
all
public
beaches
free,
but
it
went,
it
didn't
become
a
bill.
It
went
to
a
study
over
the
next
year
between
dep
and
some
other
agencies
to
see
if
municipal
beaches
can
charge
at
all.
L
B
Yeah
yeah,
we'll
we'll
deal
with
that
when
we
have
to
there
is
a
study,
that's
coming
out
about
disparity
in
in
rates
between
the
municipal
residents
and
then
non-residents,
but
like,
for
example,
down
in
bridgeport
in
new
haven.
B
B
B
M
M
D
B
So
what
you
are
voting
on
tonight
is
whether
or
not
to
move
this
to
the
mayor
and
council
meeting.
So
if
it
fails
tonight
it
does
not
move,
it
doesn't
mean
it
automatically
goes
back,
although
I
would
recommend
that
it
goes
back,
but
based
on
discussions
that
we've
had
it
makes
sense
that
it
goes
back
to
committee.
L
Sorry
I
just
married
here
I
would
if
it
goes
back
to
the
committee,
we
don't
meet
again
until
april
14th
and
beach
beach
passes,
go
on
sale
may
8th.
Would
it
have
time
to
go
back
to
a
committee
of
the
hole
or
could
I
just
bring
it
back
to
a
regular
council
meeting?
I
mean
I,
I
don't
if
they
decide
to
just
okay,
we're
gonna
close
everything
down
at
six
o'clock,
and
that
means
no
staff.
L
Nobody
everything
closes
at
six
o'clock
and
that's
the
recommendation
that
comes
back
from
the
committee,
I'm
not
gonna.
You
know
that
if
that's
where
they
go
with
it,
I
don't
know
I.
I
timing
now
becomes
an
issue,
because
the
committee
of
the
whole
meeting
in
april
wouldn't
go
to
the
first
meeting
in
may,
which
is
when
the
third,
so
I'm
just
kind
of
timing-wise
right
now
how
you
want
me
to
handle
it
back
to
the
committee.
A
A
L
B
Okay,
deputy
mayor
depot.
I
Correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
I
think
we
discussed
this
last
year,
but
the
beach
and
parks
committee
is
advisory,
correct.
That
is
correct,
so
we
could.
Last
year
we
also
held
a
special
joint
meeting
of
the
council
and
the
beach
and
parks
committee,
which
we
could
do
to
have
a
discussion.
But
again
that's
having
making
the
beacon
parks
committee
commit
another
time
which
is
kind
of
a
pain,
because
then
you
have
to
coordinate
that
with
everyone.
So.
I
B
We
could
do
that
or
we
could
now.
Where
would
we
do
that.
B
Well,
yeah,
it
would
have
been.
You
know:
the
motion's
gonna
have
to
be
made
clark,
patrick.
Where
would
we
do
that?
We
do
that
during
the
the
cow
is
to
you
move
it
or
you
don't
move
it,
but
would
we
because
you
don't
make
you
typically
don't
make
motions
during
the
cow
committee
the
hole
rather
they're
normally
made
at
the
mayor
and
council
meeting?
Where
would
this?
Where
would
the
revisions?
B
A
Well,
when,
when
you
have
somebody
come
to
you
for
donations,
they,
the
council,
sets
the
amount
there
there's
discussion
and
they
make
changes
to
to
that
all
the
time.
I
think
if
they
want
to
put
forward
a
motion
to
move
it
to
the
marin
council
with
changes
to
whatever
rules
they
they
can
do
that.
I
L
Mayor
can
I
please
address
that,
there's
only
three
changes
and
I
went
over
them
they're
under
hours,
lifeguards
on
duty
from
eight
to
eight
p,
eight
to
am
to
eight
pm
daily
under
on
page
two
under
daily
rates,
e
5
p.m,
to
8
p.m,
half
price
daily,
except
for
special
events
and
then
on
page
four
number
13,
which
is
all
the
things
I
addressed
of
the
changes.
Those
are
the
only
changes
that
were
made
to
the
rules.
Everything
else
stays
the
same
as
previous
years.
L
B
Okay,
deputy
mayor
depot.
I
Can
we
get
a
before
the
next
meeting?
Can
we
get
a
financial
like
how
what
the
difference
potential
difference
using
2019's
numbers
of
what
the
tax
dollar
difference
would
be,
so
the
the
differential
between
what
the
beach
and
parks
income
is
versus
expense
and
then
changing
that's,
making
it
free
after
6
p.m?
Can
we
see
what
the
difference
is.
L
D
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
I
I
I
I
feel
most
comfortable
if
we
did
send
this
back
to
the
committee,
because
this
is
this
is
under
their
purview
and-
and
I
I
think
that
discussion
is
healthy,
I
don't
feel
super
comfortable,
just
overriding
the
decisions
that
they've
made,
because
I
know
they've
they've
thought
about
it
very
closely
and
this
this
is
their
wheelhouse.
D
Having
said
that,
mary
you've
said
a
couple
of
times
that
if
we
opened
it
up
at
a
certain
time
in
the
evening
free
for
residents
and
non-residents
prior
to
the
8
pm,
that
we
would
not
be
having
staff-
and
I
still
want
to
understand
why
we
couldn't
continue
staff
till
8-
why
we'd
have
to
as
soon
as
the
gates
are
open
for
free
for
everyone
that
we
have
to
discontinue
the
services
based
on
the
budget.
You've
already
have
in
place
for
this
this
summer.
L
Okay,
so
having
so
prior
to
well
see
we
put
this
in
this.
Would
the
extended
gate
hours
went
in
about
four
years
ago?
Prior
to
that
we
didn't
have
staff,
so
it
would
go
back
to
the
what
the
gate
used
to
close
at
six
o'clock
up
up
until
four
years
ago,
but
the
committee
started
looking
at
some
of
the
expenses
that
we
incurred,
the
bathrooms
need
to
stay
open
because
the
concession
stand
is
open
and
because
that's
a
health
code
by
a
health
code
regulation.
L
So
you
know
water
is
being
used
paper.
Towel
was
being
used,
soap
was
being
used
and
they
looked
at
all
that
prior
when
we
closed
at
six
before
there's
no
need
for
a
gate
person,
because
they're
not
checking
anything
because
it's
free
we
did
implement
patrol,
because
at
that
point
people
weren't.
You
know
we
had
people
with
dogs
on
the
beach.
We
had
people
with
open,
grills
and
parking
spaces,
and
we
had
people
pulling
paper
towel
dispensers
off
the
wall.
L
There
was
issues
that
were
coming
into
play
with
because
we
didn't
have
staff.
We
could
look
at
keeping
staff
there,
but
then
they're,
gonna,
you're
gonna
have
an
expense
that
you're
not
gonna,
have
revenue
to
offset
it,
because
you're
gonna
have
to
still
keep.
If
you
wanna
keep
lifeguards
there
supervisors
and
patrol
people.
We
usually
have
two
patrols
so
you're
going
to
have
a
staff
of
maybe
five
that
we
I
budgeted
for
I
didn't
have
to
over.
I
didn't
have
to
budget
any
additional
money
for
lifeguards.
L
It's
just
it's
just
a
scheduling
change
instead
of
coming
in
eight
eight,
nine
and
ten,
they
would
come
in
in
eight
ten
and
twelve,
so
we'd
have
coverage
from
eight
to
eight,
a
supervisor
would
say
which
has
it
in
the
past.
That
was
probably
an
additional
eighteen
hundred
dollars
to
have
that
until
eight
o'clock.
But
that's
with
you
know,
people
you
know
charging
people,
that's
how
the
budget
was
put
together,
that
the
gate
would
stay
open
to.
Eight
people
would
get
charged.
So
we
made
that
concession.
You
know
made
that
recommendation.
L
I
mean
we
operational,
we'll
do
whatever
we
need
to
and
to
keep
the
place
clean
and
safe.
That's
why
this
came
into
play
four
or
four
four
or
five
years
ago
was
because
of
some
of
the
extensive
maintenance
issues
that
we
were
having
at
the
beach.
D
Okay,
I
mean
I,
I
can
certainly
understand
the
need
to
have
the
staff
stay,
especially
if
we've
had
issues
in
in
the
past.
I
just
think
that
perhaps
the
city
budget
might
be
able
to
cover
that,
like
one
had
said
it
previously:
okay,
counselor.
M
Yeah,
I
was
going
to
say
just
says
what
counselor
mccabe
stated,
even
though
that
the
beach
and
parks
committee
is
an
advisory
committee,
they're
volunteers
as
we
are,
and
I
think
that
we
shall
not
cut
them
out
of
home
of
that-
and
this
goes
back
to
just
I
mean,
there's
been
several
things.
That's
come
back
to
the
beach
and
parks
committee,
and
I
I
just
don't
want
this
to
be.
You
know
kind
of
you
know
we
don't
value
what
you
are
bringing
to
us.
M
I
don't
want
that
to
just
to
be
that
situation.
You
know
because
there
has
been
a
few.
My
my
other
thing
I
want
to
say,
because
I'm
a
little
unclear
so
do
we
have
to
vote
this?
Do
we
have
to
put
this
on
the
floor
to
to
move
forward.
M
But
I
I
think
I
think,
what's
being
said
and
mayor,
is
that
you
know
the
council
wants
to
bring
this
back,
but
I
personally
do
not
I
I
I
think
director
hill
stated
that
if
we
pass
it,
we
can
eliminate
the
defeat.
There'd
be
no
fee,
but
there'd
also
be
no
services.
Is
that
correct
director
hill?
M
I'm
sorry,
if
we,
if
we
met,
if
we,
if
we
move
this,
move
this
forward
to
the
council
meeting,
as
is,
did
you
state
that
there
will
be
no
fee,
but
there
will
also
be
no
services?
Well,.
L
No,
there
was
a
recommendation
that
I
mean
like
I
said,
but,
and
I
know
there
was
a
recommendation
I
believe,
brought
brought
forth
by
mayor
hendrick
that
if
we
looked
at
if
it
got
changed
to
where
we
just
shut
the
gate
down
at
six
o'clock
and
that's
how
it
gets
pat,
you
know
past
my
fear
right
now.
If
this
gets
defeated
in
a
vote,
I
have
to
come
back
with
a
different
resolution.
L
So
that
means
they
have
to
change
language
so,
like
any,
the
the
item
number
13,
which
is
the
top
the
10th,
the
canopies
and
the
and
all
that
stuff
I'd
have
to
figure
out
how
to
reword
that
the
other
thing
would
just
be
the
gate
rate
if
we
decided
to
go.
That
would
be
one
change,
but
I'd
have
to
change
the
other
part
of
the
document.
So
that's
my
uncomfortableness
with
this
getting
voted
down
again
and
and
deputy.
H
L
Depot
made
a
comment
that
this
is
just
an
advisory
committee.
These
are
their
recommendations.
It
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
you
guys
have
to
agree
with
them.
You
can
change
it.
If
you
want
to,
you
can
say:
okay,
the
gate's
gonna
close
at
eight.
Everybody
comes
in
I'm
sorry,
six.
Everybody
comes
in
at
free
at
six
o'clock.
M
B
Okay,
all
right,
so
here's
here's
where
we
go.
What
what
you
can
do
is
you
can
get
your
questions
to
marry
and
you
can
move
this
forward
to
the
mayor
and
council
meeting
and
then,
when
the
motion
comes
on
the
floor,
you
get
your
first
iso
move.
Then
you
get
your
second.
You
can
then
have
an
amendment
section.
You
know,
could
you
open
four
for
discussion?
D
B
So
what
you're
doing
is
you're
moving
this
from
the
committee
of
the
hole
to
the
council
meeting
to
then
vote
on
it
and
then
you'll
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
You'll
have
a
second
you'll
have
discussion.
Mary
can
then
talk
about
the
different
things
that
you
guys
want
to
look
at.
Excuse
me
and
then
you
can
put
up
amendments
and
then
vote
amendments
and
then
vote
on
the
main
motion
on
the
amended
motion.
Sorry,
okay,
deputy
mayor
depot.
You
had
a
question.
I
Well,
I
just
wanted
to
more
of
a
statement.
Kind
of
it
keeps
being
implied
that
I
don't
respect
the
beach
and
parks
committee,
which
is
offensive
to
me.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
disrespecting
anyone.
My
problem
is
that
the
this
the
same
thing
happened
last
year
and
the
reasoning
keeps
coming
back
to
money.
I
Oh
well,
it
costs
money
to
run
the
beach.
I
know
it
costs
money
to
run
the
beach.
The
people
who
pass
the
budget
that
that
money
comes
from
is
not
the
beach
and
parks
committee.
It
is
the
city
council,
and
I
think
that
if
we
deem
it
worthy
to
spend
a
couple
thousand
dollars
a
year,
making
sure
that
some
residents
definitely
have
access
to
the
beach
who
otherwise
wouldn't
that's
our
choice.
What
we're
doing
by
just
blindly
accepting
this
recommendation
is
saying:
oh
we'll.
I
Let
the
beach
and
parks
committee
dictate
what
we
do
with
the
budget,
which
is
not
the
point
of
the
city
council,
so
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
respecting
or
not
respecting
them.
I
don't
understand
the
impetus
behind
changing
this
rule
back
because
I
I
just
there
has
been
the
only
reason.
That's
come
up
again
is
money,
and
that
to
me
is
not
the
a
good
reason
to
exclude
city
residents
from
having
a
really
short
amount
of
free
access
to
the
beach.
It's
two
hours
like.
I
B
Well,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we've
talked
about
is
trying
to
pot
trying
to
provide
equal
access
to
residents
and
there
are
some
residents
that
can't
afford
this
and
do
appreciate
this
being
able
to
come
down
if
they
want
wanna.
You
know
you
could
feed
a
family
of
four
for
a
small
amount
of
money
down
there.
You
could
walk.
You
could
watch
the
sunsets,
those
kind
of
thing
that
way
everybody
has
access.
H
B
To
to
get
this
so
I'll
need
a
motion
to
move
this
to
the
mayor
and
council
meeting
of
april
5th.
E
B
B
Okay,
any
further
discussion
hearing
none
was
there
a
hand,
no
okay
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
extension
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
one
is
2021
parks
and
recreation,
user
fees,
mary.
L
All
righty,
okay,
so
this
one
isn't
in
color
either.
So
I
apologize
because
we
send
them
that
way,
so
we're
going
to
go
well,
we'll
have
to
make
a
change
to
page
page
three,
because
the
gate
rate
is
on
there.
So
that's
one
of
those
things.
That's
probably
going
to
make
this
go
back
to
committee,
because
that's
in
there
page
four
number.
Four
recreation
programs
is
the
next
change
under
summer
playground,
the
daily
rate
for
a
full
full
full.
L
Eight
week
program
was
250
for
a
resident,
it's
going
up
to
300
and
it
was
250
for
a
non-resident.
It's
going
up
to
375
the
weekly
rate
was
40
and
it's
going
to
50
and
it
was
50
and
it's
going
to
60
for
resident
versus
none.
The
half
day
program
was
100.
It's
going
up
to
150.
L
It
was
150
for
non-residents,
going
up
to
200,
and
then
it
was
40
and
50
for
the
weekly
rate.
This
in
this
increase
comes
about
because
of
minimum
wage
minimum
wage
currently
is
at
12
an
hour
majority
of
the
staff
that
works
at
the
summer.
Playground
are
recreation
assistants
that
make
12
an
hour.
They
will
be
making
13
an
hour
come
august
1st,
so
we
have
to
this.
L
This
is
another
one
of
those
programs
that
doesn't
pay
for
itself,
but
we
try
to
get
some
of
the
fees
back
so
that
we
can
have
an
successful
program
for
the
kids.
So
that's
one
area
of
change
on
the
next
page
under
field
ball
field,
fee
structure
under
group,
two,
all
other
youth
baseball
programs.
We
used
to
have
it
at
twenty
dollars
for
the
week
during
the
week
for
games
and
thirty
for
the
weekends
we
kind
of
gotten
more
in
line
with
what
the
town
does,
the
town
does
35
and
45.
L
So
we've
got
our
fees
up
to
where
these-
and
these
are
the
groups
like
the
aau
teams
that
play
they.
You
know
they
spend
money
to
play
and-
and
since
this
is
in
fact
this
does
not
affect
little
league
or
babe
ruth
or
any
of
those
youth
programs
that
we
let
them
use
our
fields.
It
changes
again
under
group,
five,
all
adult
leagues.
We
got
that
that
was
again
at
20
and
30.
So
now
it's
35
and
45.
L
group
number
six
adult
tournaments
used
to
be
a
hundred
dollars
for
the
day,
which
doesn't
quite
go
in
line
with
a
per
game
fee,
so
we
kind
of
they.
They
brought
that
up
to
200
250
per
day
and
then
baseball
camps.
We
used
to
have
baseball
camps-
that's
group
eight
next
page,
so
they
put
that
in
line
with
what
the
with
it
used
to
be
a
hundred
and
fifty
fifty
dollars
and
a
hundred
dollars.
So
we
increase
that
a
lot.
L
We
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
baseball
camps
anymore
at
the
at
the
facility,
but
at
least,
if
we
do,
we
can
get
some
revenue
for
it
again.
An
outside
group
coming
in
charging
people
to
be
part
of
their
their
their
camp
so
and
then
the
last
change
and
user
fees
is
under
the
zuberski
house.
L
I've
been
in
the
city,
for
this
will
be
my
16th
summer
and
the
fees
for
the
zaberski
house
have
not
changed
in
16
years,
so
the
beach
and
parks
looked
at
this
and
they
decided
to
raise
it
up.
Forty
dollars
an
hour
for
a
resident
fifty
dollars
per
hour
for
not
no
sorry,
eighty,
I
can't
read
eighty
dollars
for
non-resident
and
then
the
business
rate
went
from
went
to
a
hundred
and
two
hundred
the
city
rate
used
to
be
25
and
the
non-resident
fee
used
to
be
50
an
hour.
B
B
I
I
feel
like
again
I
I'm
gonna
go
back
and
look
at
last
year's
because
I
I
feel
like
we
just
raised
a
bunch
of
rates
last
year
and
were
like
the
summer
playground
rates.
I
thought
that
we
just
raised
them
last
year
and
it
seems
like
a
large
increase
in
price,
not
incremental,
so
I'm
not
in
favor
of
doing
big
increases
every
year.
I
When
you
know
I'd
rather
do
smaller
incremental
increases,
because
I
think
it
was
250
to
300
for
a
city
resident.
That's
a
pretty
big
jump
in
a
fee,
and
I
just
I
I
understand
that
minimum
wage
wage
has
gone
is
going
up,
but
that's
the
excuse
we
used
last
year
for
the
large
increase
and
I
don't
love
the
idea.
I
mean
obviously
we're
trying
to
recoup
some
of
our
costs
on
these
things,
and
it
is
very
common
to
pay
for
these
programs
for
playground,
programs
and
stuff
like
that
in
other
cities.
I
But
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
jumping
them
up
so
so
much
higher
than
they
were.
It
seems
like
a
steep
increase
and
to
me
250
to
300
that
50
dollars
might
be
enough
to
make
someone
go.
You
know
what
I
can't
afford
that
I'm
not
going
to
put
my
kid
in
the
program
this
year.
That's
maybe
a
15
jump
or
something
smaller
would
be
more
reasonable.
M
I
ask
the
same
questions,
particularly
with
the
parks
and
rec,
and
there
are
already
programs
in
place
for
it
to
sit
disadvantaged
this
disadvantaged
youth.
What
we
see
is
that
our
many
workers
from
pfizer
and
from
evening
utilize
that
service
and
even
with
the
jump
which
I
don't
have
the
paperwork
in
front
of
me.
I
don't
know
how
much
it
was
last
year.
M
It
is
really
extremely
significantly
low
from
the
neighboring
towns
and-
and
we
also
have
one
playground
opening
this
year
as
opposed
to
two,
because
the
west
side
site
is
closed.
So
that
jump,
I
assume-
or
I
imagine
is,
is
we
need.
You
know,
because
we
took
a
hit
with
not
having
the
that
second
location
of.
M
L
So
sorry,
mayor,
it's
mary,
so
families
have
an
option,
so
they
don't
have
to
three
hundred
dollars
for
an
eight-week
program
where
it
works
out
to
seven
dollars
and
fifty
cents
a
day.
We
did
start
adding
the
weekly
fee
a
couple
years
ago,
because
some
families,
you
know
their
kids,
don't
want
to
commit
to
the
eight
weeks.
If
you
it's
it's
750
a
day
and
we
have
them
for
six
hours,
they're
paying
15
cents
an
hour
for
their
kid
to
be
with
us.
L
So
if
you
break
down
the
math,
it's
reasonable,
I
don't
believe
I
I
want
to
say
we
increased
two
years
ago,
not
last
year
with
the
anticipation
of
minimum
wage,
but
we
all
have
to
recognize
minimum
wage
by
2023
2023.
It's
going
to
be
at
15
an
hour
for
a
starting
staff,
member
entry
level
camp
counselor.
So
anybody
above
that
you
have
to
do
some.
You
know
you're
not
going
to
have
somebody
supervising
somebody
at
50
they're
not
going
to
make
15
an
hour
supervising
somebody
making
15
an
hour.
L
L
You
know
you
have
a
multiple
other
positions:
you're,
not
just
have
you
have
a
record
assistance
and
you
go
recreation
specialist
and
you
go
the
playground
director
a
supervisor,
and
then
you
got
a
direct.
You
know
you
got
multiple
layers
there
that
you
have
to
compensate
for
moving
forward,
and
this
helps
us
do
that.
I
mean
people
have
the
option,
you
know
if
they
want
to
pay
the
300
they
can.
If
they
want
to
do
weekly
fee,
they
can
so
and
we
do-
and
I
will
we
do-
get
a
handful.
L
We
have
a
lot
of
pfizer
and
a
lot
of
eb
families
that
come
from
east
lime,
legend
and
everything
else
that
come
to
our
program
because
it's
convenient
for
them.
It's
a
very
convenient
location,
it's
on
their
root
home,
but,
like
again,
a
recommendation
based
on
you
know,
dollars
and
cents
that
were
shared
with
them
with
the
committee.
When
we
looked
at.
L
I
I
actually
do
have
a
question
on
page
six.
It
says
it's
under
a
zebra
ski
house
and
it
says
individual
private
parties,
city
resident
forty
dollars
non
resident,
eighty
dollars,
but
then
on
the
next
page,
where
it
has
the
permit.
L
That's
the
alcohol
permit,
that's
a
different
permit!
Oh
okay!
Oh
well,
that's
the
that's
the
permit,
so
we
have
two
permits
for
the
z
house.
Depending
on
what
you
do.
You
have
the
regular
permit
for
the
house
which
isn't
included
here
and
then
they
have
which
I
apologize.
I
don't
know
why
it's
not
and
then
there's
a
special
permit
if
you
choose
to
have
beer
or
wine
at
the
house
and
that's
what's
here.
That's
that's!
That's
what
that's
that
one.
F
I
L
Okay,
the
price,
because
you
either
have
a
private
party
or
a
public
one,
but
that's
this
is
after.
This
is
a
supplement
to
your
regular
permit,
which
wasn't
included
in
this,
because
that's
just
that's
just
a
this.
Is
this
this?
The
special
permit
was
designed
and
put
in
place
by
the
mayor
and
council.
The
permit
for
the
zaburski
house
itself
is
departmental.
We
we
we
that
we
have
that
in-house.
B
E
E
L
So
I,
as
you
all
know,
we've
had
we
had
a
public
hearing
on
this
and
we've
had
the
freeman's
meeting
and
to
finish
no
sorry,
the
tyler
house,
I'm
sorry
getting
tired,
the
tyler
house
window
project
and
some
of
the
other
work
that's
associated
with
this
project.
I
put
forth
a
resolution
to
complete
the
project.
Do
the
painting
and
move
forward
to
get
this
project
on
on
start
forth
to
go
forward,
so
we
get
a
purchase
order
ready
for
gas
school
and
we
can
get
this
project
started.
I
Depot
not
really
a
question,
but
I
am
very
excited
that
we're
finally
getting
this
done.
I
just
had
a
thought.
Maybe
it
would
be
a
good
thing
to
post
on
our
city
page
and
let
people
know
hey
we're
starting
this
work.
Please
stay
away
from
the
area
around
the
tile,
like
just
a
notice,
because
on
days
where
it
is
warm
out,
people
are
starting
to
go
to
the
beach.
So
maybe
it'd
be
a
good
idea
to
say:
hey,
you
know,
yay
construction
is
starting.
I
Please
keep
you
know
off
the
grounds
around
the
tyler
house
so
that
we
can
get
it
done
quickly
and
safely
and
whatever
kind
of
thing.
L
Correct
so
this
project
there's
some
things
that
they
can
do
prior
to
beach
season
opening
and
that's
some
of
the
painting.
Any
of
you
all
been
up
on
the
deck
of
the
tyler
house.
The
ceiling
paint
is
flaking,
some
of
the
posts
aren't.
The
paint
is
coming
out,
so
they
can
get
in
and
do
all
that
these
are
all
custom
made
windows.
So
by
the
time
they
got
them
all
done.
We'd
probably
be
right:
smack
dab
starting
beach
season,
so
this
would
prob
the
window.
L
Part
of
it
would
most
likely
start
seven
seven
of
september
day,
the
tuesday
after
labor
day,
and
then
we
can
advise
people
because
we'll
have
a
better
timeline
with
the
contractor.
We
could
start
advising
because
even
in
the
fall
time
in
september,
people
are
out
on
the
beach
when
the
nicer
weather.
So
that
way
we
can
get
a
timeline
from
the
contractor
and
really
put
some
good
details
out
there
for
the
for
the
residents.
E
Okay,
so
after
this
project
here
for
the
windows,
what
additional
work
is
going
to
be
still
needed
for
the
tyler
house.
L
I
don't
have
any
others
other
projects
planned
at
the
moment
for
the
tyler
house.
We
might
be
moving
over
to
the
zabriskie
house
again,
but
the
tyler
house
that
should
get
that
pretty
much
completed.
There's
some
intern
in
inside
projects
that
we
could
we're
looking
to
complete.
But
that
should
be
done
before
this
season
starts.
B
Okay,
anything
else
from
the
council
and
I'll
take
a
motion
to
move
the
tower
house
window
project
to
the
mayor
and
council
meeting
of
april
5th.
Don't
move.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
further
discussion.
Hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
opposed
ascension
motion
carries.
Thank
you,
mary.
H
B
N
Well,
thank
you
mayor,
and
this
is
an
ordinance
that
I'm
looking
to
revise
in
preparations
of
going
to
our
permitting
software
system
and
also
to
change
the
ordinance
so
that
in
the
future
the
fees
could
be
revised
by
resolution
only
instead
of
going
through
the
whole
ordinance
procedure.
N
So
the
highlights
of
the
proposal
is
to
increase
the
minimum
fee
from
thirty
dollars
for
the
first
thousand
to
forty
dollars
for
the
first
thousand,
each
additional
thousand
would
still
stay
at
fifteen
dollars
and
another
section
is
to
clean
up
the
language
from
the
certificate,
abuse
and
occupancy,
which
really
is
just
to
be
a
certificate
of
occupancy
fee,
and
that
would
only
apply
to
new
construction
additions
and
certain
changes
to
commercial
projects.
N
The
rest
of
the
closeout
procedures
will
be
handled
by
the
forty
dollar
fifteen
dollar
per
thousand
fee.
N
Just
that
when
it
comes
to
a
ceo,
we
have
a
lot
of
staff,
time
and
paperwork
to
collect
and
review
in
order
to
issue
a
ceo
for
homes
and
commercial
buildings.
So
it's
very
time
consuming
process.
N
Another
aspect
that
I'm
looking
at
putting
in
here
is
the
waiver
of
fees.
The
current
ordinance
does
not
have
a
provision
to
waive
any
fees
for
any
city
projects
or
anything
brought
forward
by
any
boards
or
commissions
within
the
city.
N
So
I'm
looking
to
include
that
here
and
to
have
a
clause
that
if
a
non-profit
agency
wishes
to
have
their
fees
waived,
the
council
would
have
to
waive
that.
N
N
B
B
Second,
okay:
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
aye,
aye,
post
sentient
motion
carries
okay.
That
was
it
short
and
sweet,
we're
good
all
right.
The
next
one
is
780
actuarial
cost
estimate,
2021
cola
for
pre
2017
retirees
I'll
turn
that
over
to
finance
director
euhas
ron.
K
So
this
was
this
comes
before
the
council
annually.
If
there
is
an
increase
in
the
cp
cpiw
average
over
the
year
over
last
year,
there
there
was
an
increase,
so
we'd
have
the
actuary,
put
a
cost
analysis
together
and
what
it
and
that's
the
sheet
that
was
handed
out
in
the
packet.
K
The
way
that
the
calculation
is
done
for
the
recommended
coal
increases
is
it's
the
cpiw
average
increase
which
was
1.21
and
it's
25
of
that
increase.
So
it
comes
out
to
be
a
0.3
increase
for
pre-2018
retirees.
So
on
that
you
can
see
the
impact
on
the
actuarial,
determined
contribution,
it
would
be
18
398..
E
B
Second,
we
have
a
post
in
a
second.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
aye,
close
extension
motion
carries.
Thank
you
ron.
Let's
see,
six
seven,
let's
go
to
grind
utilities,
financials
561.!
K
We'll
do
the
time
how
long
this
is
going,
we'll
kind
of
keep
it
keep
it
short
and
keep
it
to
our
normal
presentation,
so
we'll
first
turn
to
page
six,
which
will
be
the
electric
division,
and
this
is
for
year-to-date
revenues
and
expenditures
so
line
19.
The
total
electric
revenue
is
33.4
million
versus
a
budget
of
33
million
or
just
under
500
000
over
budget.
K
As
you
can
see,
the
the
drivers
of
that
revenue
being
over
budget
is
the
residential
and
the
industrial
class
where
the
commercial
class
has
been
kind
of
coming
in
under
budget,
and
this
is
what
we've
seen
the
trend
that
we've
seen
the
entire
year
going
down
to
row,
41,
which
is
total
operating
expenses,
35.6
million
versus
a
budget
of
35.6
million
or
57
000
favorable
for
for
the
year,
so
the
expenditures
are
right
on
par
with
budget
from
the
year
to
date,
amounts
net
income
from
operations.
K
Applying
52
is
3.6
million
versus
a
budget
of
2.2
million
or
1.4
million
favorable
again
driven
by
the
the
revenue
of
being
over
budget
is
the
main
driver
there.
So
that's
overall
for
the
electric
vision
division.
I
said
we're
over
budget
revenue
wise
and
right
on
target
expense,
wise
with
budget.
K
Total
water
revenue
for
the
airline
17
is
7.9
million
versus
a
budget
of
7.5
or
400
000
favorable
again
the
drivers
there
same
thing
as
we
saw
on
the
electric
side.
The
residential
and
industrial
are
coming
in
slightly
over
budget,
where
the
commercial
is
coming
in
below
low
pro
30
total
operating
expenses
actual
just
over
7
million
versus
budget
7.4
or
400
000
under
budget
line
44.
The
net
earnings
before
the
wsrf
grant
is
just
over
a
million
versus
a
budget
of
a
negative
656
000
or
1.7
million
dollars.
Favorable.
K
When
you
take
the
over
over
budget
revenue
versus
under
budget
expenditures
for
the
year
and
again,
that's
been
the
same
trend
that
we've
been
seeing
all
year
with
the
water.
K
The
total
sewer
revenue
row
15
is
just
under
3.3
million
versus
a
budget
of
2.9
million
or
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Favorable
again,
this
is
driven
by
mainly
by
the
industrial
class
and,
as
you
recall,
we've
talked
about
in
the
past.
There's
been
some
deduct
meter
issues
that
have
have
caused
this
fluctuation
from
the
actual
being
over
the
budget
for
the
industrial
road,
26
total
operating
expenses.
K
The
actual
is
just
under
2
million
versus
budgeted,
2.4
or
462,
000
favorable
and
then
the
net
income
for
the
sewer
row.
37
is
just
under
1.2
versus
a
budget
of
250
000
or
938
000
favorable.
So
you
see
the
same
trend
here,
as
you
saw
in
the
water
with
the
over
budget
revenue
and
the
under
budget
expenses
driving
that
income
number.
B
One
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
is
in
your
packets.
It's
our
budget
presentations.
I
will
deliver
the
budget
to
you
on
april
5th
and
you'll.
Have
that
delivered
to
you
with
your
packets
and
we'll
do
a
brief
overview
and
then
on
the
on
the
following
meetings,
we
will
start
disc.
B
We
will
have
department
heads
come
in
to
discuss
the
their
individual
departments
ron
and
I
are
finishing
up
the
budget
this
week-
we're
rolling
it
up
to
look
at
the
overall
impact
for
the
budget
and
then,
like
I
said,
you'll
have
that
delivered
to
you
for
the
april
5th
meeting.
K
Yep,
so
in
the
pack
you
have
the
year-to-date
expenditures
versus
budget
through
february
28th,
again
taking
a
very
high
level
overview
on
this
should
be
roughly
33
remaining.
However,
only
half
the
pension
and
half
the
opeb
have
hit
the
budgets
for
all
the
departments.
At
this
point,
so
you
can
see
that
all
the
departments
for
the
most
part
are
fairly
well
above
they're
coming
below
budget
year
to
date,
as
a
percentage
of
the
totals.
K
The
one
thing
which
we've
talked
about
in
the
last
couple
of
general
insurance
is
below
that,
but
that
was
the
one-time
july
expenses
which
drove
that
29.77.
So
there's
nothing
to
be
worried
about
there
and
the
other
question
that
came
up
in
the
last
meeting
was
the
civil
preparedness
and
it
was
over
budget
in
the
last
in
the
january
year-end
one.
Looking
into
that,
there
was
some
grants
that
were
charged
there,
which
I
kind
of
suspected
that
we're
going
to
be
offset
and
not
through
that
funding
source.
K
So
those
will
be
moved
over
to
a
to
a
separate
account
to
actually
track
those
from
to
offset
the
revenue
and
expense.
B
Okay,
deputy
mayor
depot.
F
B
Okay,
thank
you
ron,
let's
see
before
we
move
well,
I
want
to
go
655
economic
development,
the
cadets
coast
guard
cadets,
we're
going
to
present
today
and
we've
decided
to
move
them
to
april
5th.
So,
during
our
april
5th
meeting
under
communications
report,
you'll
get
the
riverwalk
presentation.
B
So
the
last
thing
on
the
agenda
items
is
782
public
works.
I
want
to
talk
about
a
couple
of
things.
It
has
recently
come
to
my
attention.
There
are
some
things
that
have
been
performed
with
public
works
that
have
been
brought
to
question,
and
so
I
want
to
address
that.
One
of
them
is
the
plowing
snowplowing
of
the
colonel
ledger.
B
Cemetery.
What
it
looks
like
practice
has
been
for
30
or
40
years
is
to
plow
that
front
entrance
to
the
to
the
chapel
and
the
round
part
the
turn
around
there
and
that's
all
in
return.
For
that.
What
happens
is
that
the
cemetery
will
take
all
of
our
leaves
all
of
our
brush,
all
of
our
seaweed,
all
of
our
sod
and
they
put
it
in
their
compost
area
and
they
use
that
for
to
make
compost
and
that
it
gets
in
turn
used
on
a
cemetery.
B
The
cost
savings
to
us
for
seaweed
alone
is
about
1500
a
week
during
the
season.
Now
that
doesn't
really
matter
because
that's
not
parks
are
not
parks.
That's
not
public
works
highway
money.
So
the
question
was
it's
highway
money
we
get
paid
from
the
town.
B
The
town
puts
that
money
in
so
there's
that,
but
the
compost
we
don't
have
to
take
it
to
wells
to
wells
road.
We
also
don't
have
to
take
take
our
brush
over
to
the
transfer
station
and
that
saves
us
a
45-minute
round
trip
the
wear
and
tear
on
the
vehicles
and
the
gas
and
the
time.
B
So
in
the
end,
there's
there
is
a
cost
savings
to
the
city
for
that
which,
in
turn,
is
passed
on
to
the
town.
Now
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
doing
now
is
I'm
working
with
the
cemetery
association
to
come
up
with
an
mou
to
codify
all
this.
But
for
now
what
I've
done
is.
I
said:
we're
going
to
stop
the
plowing
of
that
cemetery
road.
B
That
way,
there's
no
use
of
the
of
the
of
the
funds,
the
vehicles,
the
people
until
we
can
get
this
figured
out.
There
was
also
a
question
about.
There
was
a
excess
asphalt
that
was
used
to
pave
a
back
part
of
a
road.
So
we
have
a
back
entrance
into
the
library,
though
excuse
me,
the
cemetery
that
we
use
sometimes
and
due
to
the
mud
and
things
like
that,
that
gets
it
gets,
beat
up
and
ready,
and
so
there
was
extra
asphalt
that
they
had
from
a
job
on
fleming
court.
B
So
they
took
that
over
there
and
they
basically
filled
in
those
areas
and
they
put
up
put
a
they
patched
areas,
put
a
little
mini
road
with
the
leftover
asphalt
that
was
going
to
be
taken
and
thrown
and
thrown
away,
and
it
was
used
for
that
that
that
use.
Only
another
thing
that
was
brought
up
was
questions
about
a
a
driveway
apron
or
commonly
referred
to
as
a
curb
cut,
and
there
was
a
question
about
was
that
legal
was
it
authorized
and
those
kinds
of
things?
B
B
It
appears
that
that
that
access
was
properly
installed
with
the
proper
permissions
and
using
the
approved
processes
that
we
have
in
the
city
of
drive.
There
were
people
that
had
responded
to
facebook.
That
said,
they
weren't
granted
extra,
curb
cuts,
and
things
like
that.
B
You
are
allowed
one
highway,
one
road
access,
driveway
access
to
your
property.
So
and
that's
what
this
is.
Some
people
had
asked
for
a
second
driveway
or
a
widened
driveway
and
the
second
driveway
is
not
allowed
the
widened
driveway
there.
It
discusses
what
has
to
be
met
in
order
to
have
that
widened,
driveway
and
when
and
what
the
approvals
are
and
those
kind
of
things.
So
if
you,
if,
if
people
do
have
questions
about
driveway
accesses
and
curb
cuts,
and
things
like
that,
please
feel
free,
you
can
call
the
mayor's
office.
B
You
can
also
at
four
one
zero.
Three,
eight
six,
oh
four,
four
six,
four
one
zero
three
or
you
can
call
parks
and
rec
and
talk
to
them,
and
then
they
can
lead
you
in
that
direction.
B
There's
also
a
question
about
services
that
we
have
provided
to
the
state,
and
let
me
be
specific
on
that.
If
you
go
to
where
meridian
street
mourinho
street
extension
is
where
clarence
b
sharp
you'll
see
four
corners
there,
that
are
state
property
that
the
state
mows
once
per
year,
and
but
it
grows
more
than
needing
to
be
cut
once
per
year.
B
We
have
cut
it
and
we
will
continue
to
cut
it
because
it
impacts
sight
lines
and
that's
a
safety
issue,
and
I
don't
want
any
wrecks
to
occur
because
people
can't
see
so
down
into
down
at
meridian
street
marine
street
extension.
We
will
continue
to
mow
that
and
up
at
rainville
avenue
on
the
one
side
on
the
west
side
correction
on
the
east
side
of
the
road.
Rather,
we
will
continue
to
mow
that
as
well,
because
the
town
is
not
mowing
it.
B
B
The
state
had
fell
the
trees
and
had
had
the
trees
cut
up.
We
were
conducting
sidewalk
repairs
there
and
had
stanchions
set
up
and
was
controlling
traffic.
Henry
alves,
who
is
the
park
ranger
for
the
local
parks
for
st
trump?
Of
course,
poor
trumbull
and
fort
griswold
reached
out
to
tim
emers,
who
is
was
the
the
highway
director
at
the
time
and
said
hey
since
you
got
this
cordoned
off.
B
Would
you
guys
mind
taking
the
wood
and
getting
rid
of
it
for
us,
and
so
they
took
the
cut
up
wood
and
then
took
it
to
the
town
so
that
it
could
be
ground
up,
and
those
were
the
issues
that
were
identified
on
the
facebook
post
and
that
I've
been
addressing
this
last
week
and
this
week,
and
it
appears
that
that
we
have
our
arms
around
that
now.
B
I
also
will
report
out
to
you
that
in
the
very
near
future,
I
will
present
to
you
a
candidate
for
the
public
works
director
and
we'll
have
that
position
filled
in
a
short
period
of
time,
they're
currently
going
through
the
background
investigation
for
the
hiring
process,
and
so
that's
that
the
last
thing
I
want
to
do
before
we
look
at
executives
going
to
executive
session
is
there
are
several
of
the
items
on
the
committee
of
the
whole
list
that
I
would
like
to
remove
because
we're
not
they
don't
really
apply
anymore.
B
B
B
B
709
is
ground
utilities,
rules
and
regulations
that
doesn't
need
to
come
up
again
because
we've
reviewed
them
and
they're
up
to
date.
If
we
need
to
bring
them
back
up
again
for
review
we'll
do
that
7
9
7
19
is
crosswalks.
B
I
don't
think
we
have
any
issues
on
crosswalks
at
this
time.
We've
had
some
issues
in
the
past
and
discussions,
so
I
want
to
remove
that
728,
which
is
space,
needs
discussion.
We
are
we're
finishing
up
with
the
with
the
space
needs
that
we
have
the
last
room.
The
last
group
that
we
have
on
the
municipal
side
is
going
to
be
finance
and
then,
with
the
when
tvc
moves
out
and
and
provides
space
back
to
the
city,
then
we'll
be
looking
at
how
we're
going
to
utilize
that
space.
B
B
We
had
that
a
while
back
based
on
the
south
yard
assembly
building
and
the
projects
that
were
going
on
there.
We
don't
need
that
anymore
and
then
764
is
the
electric
boat
construction
update.
That
was
basically
a
duplicate
of
the
733,
and
so
we
don't.
We
don't
need
that
update
with
these
south
yard
assembly
buildings
in
those
areas.
We've
been
updated
and
briefed
on
that.
B
B
Hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
close
extension
motion
carries
okay.
I
need
a
motion
to
enter
into
executive
session,
pursue
it
connecticut,
general
statues
1-206
alpha
to
for
to
discuss
personnel
police
department
to
include
the
cap
mayor
and
council
and
chief
who
do
we
need
in
there
reggie
stanford
and
you
and
that's
it.
Yes,
sir.
Okay,
so
it'll
include
reggie
stanford,
the
council,
the
mayor
and
chief
spelman.