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City of Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Committee of the Whole September 26, 2022.
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So
when
we
found
out
about
that,
we
immediately
went
in
and
made
the
changes,
and
this
handout
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
is
what
is
being
sent
to
every
single
person
whose
address
was
affected,
so
they
will
have
a
list
of
all
the
candidates
running.
On
the
left
hand
side,
it
says
what
districts
so,
the
only
ones
that
matter
as
far
as
the
districts
go
obviously
or
the
state
representative,
40th
and
41st.
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So
I
wanted
to
send
that
out
at
the
top
there's
a
list
of
all
the
districts
by
number,
and
then
it
tells
what
it
is.
Because
not
everybody
knows
that
district
one
is
the
Groton
Library.
We
call
it
one
two
three
through
seven,
but
I
wanted
them
to
be
able
to
know
that
okay
I
voted
The,
Groton
Library,
so
district
one.
You
know
these
are
the
candidates
that
I
can
look
for
on
the
ballot,
because
there
was
question
about
whether
they
thought
they
were
in
the
41st.
D
They
might
have
gone
for
the
wrong
candidate
and
if
they
were
actually
in
the
40th,
so
I
wanted
to
make
that
as
clear
as
I
possibly
could
and
then
on.
The
back
is
actually
a
larger
sized
postcard.
We
sent
out
postcards
to
everybody,
so
this
is
essentially
the
same
thing,
but
I
highlighted
in
yellow,
please
disregard
previous
incorrect
information
and
then
in
the
square
in
the
middle
it
was
tailored
to
whichever
District
those
people
are
going
to
vote
in.
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Right,
that's
correct.
We
do
that
every
time
they
would
have
to
go
see
when
their
name's
not
on
the
list.
They
would
send
them
to
the
assistant
registrars,
who,
when
they're
not
on
the
list,
would
then
call
our
office.
We
would
verify
that
they
are
registered
and
that
they
vote
wherever
they
vote,
and
we
would
send
them
with
a
little
piece
of
paper
that
has
the
address
on
it.
So
they
know
where
to
go.
E
B
B
B
B
G
G
B
G
B
D
So
you're,
actually
both
right.
You
have
until
January
1st
of
2023
to
switch
back
to
May,
so
you
would
be
voting
to
keep
it
in
May
or
move
it
back
to
May
being
the
same
kind
of
action.
But
you
have
until
January
1st
if,
after
January
1st
you've
done
nothing
it's
in
November
and
it
can
never
go
back
to
May.
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G
Okay,
so
that
just
to
be
clear,
so
then
my
question
would
be
do
we
know,
certainly
right
because,
according
to
these,
according
to
what
I
read,
if
we're
already
in
November
right,
statutory
in
November,
already
right
according
to
what
I'm
reading
what
I've,
read
and
you've
been
listening
to,
the
handout
I
might
have
been
prior
is-
and
this
is
where
we
need
clarification,
because
this
is
new
according
to
this,
and
this
is
the
way
I
need.
It
is
that
if
we
switch
it
to
May,
then
it
would
not
only
possibility
go
back.
G
It
would
also
every
couple
years
we
would
have
to
according
to
what.
If
you
just
read
this
it's
already
in
in
November
it's
every
election
year,
we
would
have
to
have
a
three-fourths
vote
to
change
it
to
May
and
that's
what
I'm
that's
what
I'm
reading
so
I'm
asking
do
we
know
for
certain
that
he's
saying
that
we
can't
change
it
back
to
November
when
I'm
reading
that
it's
already
in
November
I.
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G
G
So
how
could
you
say
that
we
can't
change
something
back
that
statutory?
That's
what
I'm
saying
and
there's
there's.
No.
The
attorney
can
tell
me
otherwise
that's
kind
of
it's
kind
of
a
gray
area
there,
because
I
don't
know
how
you
can
change
something
back.
Naturally,
that's
really
already
there.
Nobody
says
that.
B
If
any
municipality,
where
the
legislative
body
determines
the
oldest
municipal
election
on
the
first
Monday
of
May
of
the
odd
number
of
years
in
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
subparagraph
a
this
subdivision,
social,
isolated
body,
May,
subsequently
determine
by
a
majority
vote
to
hold
such
municipal
election
on
the
Tuesday
after
the
first
Monday
of
November
of
the
odd
numbered
years.
So
that's
if
we're
in
May,
if
we
vote
to
go
to
May
later
on,
this
body
could
vote
with
a
majority
to
go
to
November.
Once
you
go
to
November
you're
in
November.
G
Question
is
because
it's
been
posed
and
I
wasn't
here,
but
it's
been
posed
that
that
we,
that
suggested
sorry,
that
we
hold
it
in
May
and
and
this
ask
the
voters
to
see
if
we
switch
it
to
November
and
and
I,
and
my
argument
is
I-
think
we
should
have
it
in
November
and
then
ask
the
rest.
Ask
the
residents
if
we
want
to
switch
it
to
May
right
we're.
B
A
B
G
E
Ted
Bromley
is
the
director
of
Elections
and
from
our
discussion
before,
because
we
asked
this
question
before
clerk.com
got
clarification,
so
my
concern
is,
if
we
so
the
statute
says
it
moves,
except
if
the
legislative
body
chooses
not
to
move
it.
So
there's
been
a
ton
of
discussion
and
I
mean
I
would
say.
The
director
of
Elections
has
the
last
word
on
how
this
is
written.
So
if
he
says
that
we
can't
change
our
mind
after
letting
it
move
to
November
I'm
going
to
go
with
he's
the
one
that
makes
that
decision.
E
E
Unfortunately,
had
we
known
about
this
when
it
got
passed,
we
would
have
had
all
this
lead
time.
We
would
have
had
two
years
lead
time
on
the
decision
or
a
year
and
a
half.
We
didn't
get
that
because
we
weren't
notified
of
this
I
would
be
in
favor
of
essentially
giving
us
that
lead
time
by
keeping
the
election
in
May
for
one
more
term,
we
could
put
the
question
on
the
ballot.
E
But
I
am
in
favor
of
having
a
longer
time
to
decide
because
it
is
a
big
deal
to
move
the
election.
Whether
or
not
you
know,
there's
people
on
that
have
opinions
both
ways,
but
it
is
a
big
deal
to
move
the
election.
Considering
it's
been
in
May
for
so
long
I
think
we
should
give
people
the
chance
to
give
us
their
opinion
and
there's
no
way
to
do
that.
E
E
Think,
if
we're
looking
to
know
what
the
people
actually
want
to
do
for
the
election,
that
is
the
only
real
way
to
know,
is
to
ask
them
in
a
manner
in
which
we
will
get
enough
responses
that
it's
representative
of
the
people,
because
I
don't
think
that
even
the
six
of
us
talking
to
people
or
the
people
who've
come
or
you
know,
we've
had
the
members
of
each
Party
come
and
give
their
opinions.
It's
still
not
representative
of
all
of
the
electorate.
E
B
G
G
If
the
legislative
body
of
the
municipal
municipality
so
determined
by
three-fourths
of
vote,
that's
saying
that,
on
and
after
January
1st
on
a
biannual
basis
that
we're
going
to
have
that
same,
it's
going
to
always
we're
always
going
to
have
that
same
ohm
that
same
option.
That's
what
that
that's!
What
I'm
reading.
B
F
What
I
heard
from
what
you
said
it
sounded
like
the
the
statute
is
saying
that
you
could
have
November
or
May
after
that
date.
If
but
I
think
it's
if
you
voted
by
they're,
just
accounting
for
the
people
that
like
us,
if
we
chose
to
stay
in
may,
we
could
still
have
our
every
other
year
on
odd
year
in
May
versus
November.
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F
G
So
so
why
would
it
say
that,
though
it
says
on
or
after
I
mean
it
I,
don't
understand?
Why
and
I
I
still
need
more
clarification,
because
based
off
this,
this
is
still
telling
me
that
you
could
have
an
overall
November
election
but
still
move
it
to
May,
not
only
once
but
every
other
year.
You
can
move
it
to
me.
If
you
have
that
vote,
it's
good.
It
says
the
option.
I
think
they
put
that
in
I.
G
Think
they
put
this
in
just
in
case
he
did
have
that
may
election
and
you
wanted
to
go
back
to
November,
so
I
think
they're,
allowing
all
options
here
and
I.
Think-
and
this
is
just
me
assuming
I'm,
asking
I-
think
that
it's
almost
obvious
in
the
first
statement
that
you
can
it's,
you
can
move
it
back
and
you
can
keep
it
in
in
November,
but
still
change
it
to
May
in
the
future,
because
why
would
it
say
there
on
after.
G
And
again,
I'm
just
asking
for
clarity
and
from
what
I'm
reading,
because,
like
I
said,
counselors
or
Deputy
Mayor
depots,
she
makes
a
lot
of
sense
with
and
I'm
about
bringing
it
to
vote
I'm
about
bringing
to
vote,
but
I
would
prefer
a
November
vote
because
objectively
we'd
have
more
factual
information,
as
opposed
to
a
made
vote
of
something
that
we've
been
doing
for
years.
I.
Think
if
we
have
in
November
vote
we
could
actually
see.
G
If
you
know
we
can
see
the
motor
turnout,
we
could
see
the
legit
Logistics
of
things
we
could
see.
If
you
know
our
transportation
wise,
social,
low
economic,
if
they
get
there
I
think
it's
just
more
and
we
can
see
and
furthermore,
I
think
it's
it's
instead
of
guessing,
but
there's
been
a
whole
lot
of
guessing
a
whole
lot
of
people
saying
this
is
going
to
be
there's
going
to
be
confusion.
You
know,
there's
gonna,
be
you
know
people
aren't
going
to
want
to
do
it.
G
You
know
you
know
I,
think
it's
a
good
opportunity
to
actually
see
if
November
would
actually
work
and
for
me
one
if
we
could
do
that.
If
we
could
have
a
November
election,
but
still
change
it
to
May
subsequent
years,
just
like
what
I'm
reading
here
then
I
I
think
that
that
would
be
the
best
option,
because
I
think
we
could
tackle
all
of
that
with
the
November
election
rather
than
a
May
election.
B
G
Always
been
the
sales
attorney,
but
I
would
like
somebody
that
that
has
more
detail
of
of
this
and
I
would
like.
Also
also,
if
somebody
can
answer
a
question
on
why
why
the
reasons
it
was
changed
to
November
to
begin
with,
because
those
reasons
actually
might
outshine
everything
so
I
just
wouldn't
want
to
know
more
a
little
more.
B
C
G
I
think
the
decision's
already
been
made
to
for
November
and
I
think
if
we
could
get
a
November
election
and
still
you
know
kind
of
you
know,
work
either.
Look
if
there's
kinks
in
it
or
things
that,
if
it's
going
to
be
better
I,
think
that
it's
automatic,
but
the
work's
already
been
done
to
change
it
to
November.
G
So
why
not
have
it
in
November?
If
we
could
have
the
and
I
won't
be
here,
I
wouldn't
be
here.
If
you
guys
could
move
it
or
the
body,
that's
here
can
move
it
to
May.
If
November
doesn't
work
out
that
that
would
be
optimal
for
me,
okay,
so
so
I
guess
clarification
would
be
what
you're
saying
it
it
is
it
still
pop
if
it
was
still
possible.
G
That's
my
questions
if,
if
to
get
a
clear,
a
clear
answer
on,
if
it
will
be
possible
to
move
to
May
future
years,
even
if
we
have
a
November
election
this
time-
that's
that's
my!
That's!
That's
really
the
sole
question!
I
have
this!
Another
question,
I
guess
would
be
beneficial
was
is
why
did
the
legislation?
Why
did
it
change?
What
was
the
reason
why
it
was
brought
forward
to
begin
with
so.
C
I'll
clarify
mayor
that
there's
the
original
bill,
Senate
Bill
1017
in
2021,
so
if
I,
if
you'd
like
the
council
I,
can
pull
it
up
on
CGA
and
send
you
the
link,
usually
it
has
from
what
I
recall
is
you
have
the
testimony,
the
original,
the
transcripts
of
all
the
testimony
and
things
like
that?
So
I'll
look
for
that
and
send
it
to
the
council.
A
H
Yes,
I
I
believe
if
it
was
in
the
Statue
itself,
as
far
as
not
being
able
to
reverse
your
decision
go
to
go
back
to
May
because
I
guess
it's
not
in
the
statute
itself.
We
got
a
letter
here
saying
that
you
can't
move
it
back
if
it
was
in
clear
in
the
statute.
I
think
that
would
be
beneficial
and
that's
where
an
attorney's
brief
I
guess
would
possibly
request
that
clarification
to
where
could
statutorily.
H
H
G
B
E
You,
okay,
so
just
for
clarification,
I'm
gonna,
read
clerk
Jacob's
email
to
the
director
of
Elections
who's,
the
one
that
makes
these
decisions
and
who
interprets
this
law.
What?
Oh?
Okay,
please
don't
interrupt
me
his
question
in
his
email
directly
to
him
said.
If
the
city
council
decided
to
go
with
the
November
elections,
could
they
go
back
to
their
usual
May
elections?
Afterwards,
the
response
is
no
I
believe
the
goal
is
to
get
all
towns
to
November
so
once
they
change
to
November,
they
cannot
return.
E
Mr
Bromley
interprets
legal
documents
all
the
time.
I
feel
like
it's
kind
of
doesn't
make
sense
to
question
his
opinion.
He
is
the
head
of
elections
for
the
whole
state.
In
addition,
the
letter
that
we
received
from
The
Groton
City
Democratic
committee
chairman,
has
a
paragraph
in
here.
He
contacted
our
legislative
legislators.
E
And
ask
them
for
information
on
who
put
the
bill,
who
put
this
in
the
bill.
What
was
the
intent
and
as
of
this
letter,
the
local
legislators
he
talked
to
said
they
did
not
know
and
that
they
weren't
sure
the
intent
of
putting
this
in
the
bill,
and
then
it
got
added
near
the
end
of
the
deliverations
and
even
after
more
inquiry
he
couldn't
get
the
info
on
who's.
The
person
that
added
it
now
I'm
sure.
E
In
my
opinion,
you
know
I.
This
is
a
big
decision
and
I,
don't
think
I
agree.
We
shouldn't
make
it
lightly,
but
I
think
that
we
can
count
on
the
opinion
of
the
director
of
Elections
for
the
entire
state
of
Connecticut
when
he
gives
us
his
opinion
on
the
Statue
I.
Don't
think
that
it's
easier
and
the
registrar
can
probably
attest
to
the
logistical
change,
it
will
be
to
change
the
election
to
November
one
year.
E
Even
if
we
had
the
option
to
change
it
back
would
be
difficult,
and
even
if
that
were
the
option,
the
better
option,
the
cleaner
option
would
be
to
let
the
voters
decide
and
change
one
time
if
we're
going
to
change
it.
I
think
you
know,
like
I
said
it's
been
in
May
for
a
long
time.
If
we're
going
to
change
it
I
think
it's
one
of
those
decisions.
There
are
several
that
we
have
decisions
on
this
Council
that
I
feel
like.
If
we
make
it.
E
If
we
only
have
one
chance
to
make
the
decision,
we
better
make
the
right
one
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
those
decisions
that
we
need
to
carefully.
Consider
and
I
don't
think
it's
best
to
make
the
decision
with
just
the
seven
six
of
us,
rather
I
think
that
it
is
better
to
get
the
input
of
the
residents,
and
the
only
way
to
do
that
is
to
keep
the
election
in
may
put
it
on
the
ballot
and
then,
if
the
electorate
says
they
want
to
change
it,
then
we
can
easily
change
it.
E
It
doesn't
even
require.
If
we
do
it
that
way,
it
doesn't
even
require
a
super
majority.
It
only
requires
a
majority
to
change
it
to
November
after
the
fact,
I
think
that
we
should
go
with
what
the
people
want,
not
just
what
we
see
in
our
own
little
bubbles,
so
I
think
that
that's
the
better
decision,
I
think
otherwise
we're
we're
saying
that
the
people's
opinion
that
vote
doesn't
matter.
H
Going
back
to
the
reasoning
of
the
change
was
back
to
the
schools.
Correct
I
think
when
you
we
spoke
before
is
to
the
inconvenience
of
the
school
systems
because
they
had
to
account.
For
you
know:
kids
are
in
school
that
election
day
in
May,
and
that
was
the
issue
of
why
everything
needed
to
be
in
November
I
believe.
Wasn't
that
the
reasoning
I
think
when
we
spoke
last
time.
D
That
was
one
of
my
reasons
to
move
it
to
November
because
of
the
safety
of
the
kids
at
Thames.
River
magnet
school
now
and
they're
not
closed
in
May.
But
if
we
chose
to
keep
it
in
May,
then
I
would
go
to
the
Board
of
Ed
and
see
if
we
could
get
that
to
be
a
professional
development
day
or
something
along
those
lines
so
that
the
schools
could
be
closed
in
May,
but
I'm
not
sure
how
that
would
work
or
if
they
would
even
do
it
indefinitely,
especially.
H
C
Yes,
counselor
we've
reached
out
to
a
few
of
the
ones
that
still
had
the
elections
in
May,
a
handful
of
them
still
just
like
us
kind
of
found
out
last
minute
or
actually
we're
informed
when
I
reached
out
to
them.
There
were
two
particular
Bantam
Litchfield
and
Litchfield
Borough
from
Litchfield
that
would
be
remaining
in
May
and
one
in
Jewett
City.
That
said,
they
would
stay
and
remain
in
may
as
well,
but
that
was
due
to
polling,
location
and
being
one
polling
location
already
so
other
than
that.
C
B
I
Probably,
let's
leave
it
in
May,
because
we're
really
not
asking
people
that
haven't
come
out
to
vote,
I
will
say
I,
don't
know
how
to
get
those
response,
so
I
think.
Unfortunately,
our
only
option
in
seeking
public
opinion
is
either
here
at
a
town,
council
meeting
or
a
council
of
whole
meeting
or
having
some
type
of
question
in
May
I.
Don't
see
any
other
way
to
really
do.
Thank
you.
H
B
J
So
I
think
with
councilor
Carter
I
think
clarification
would
be
great.
That's
one
thing:
I
want
to
say:
I
I
do
understand
that
I
also
agree
that
it
would
have
been
nice.
What
Deputy,
Mayor
Debo
said
that
if
he
had
said
no
I
believe
the
goal
is
to
get
the
towns
to
November.
Instead,
it
maybe
said
no
because
in
statute
blah
blah
blah,
it
says
it
specifically
and
clarified
it.
J
So,
with
that
said
and
I
appreciate
you,
we
are
going
to
honor
and
respect
Mr
Bromley,
but
I
will
have
to
say
we
can
always
question
people
in
leadership.
We
definitely
can
it's
not
that
we
don't
trust.
We
just
want
clarification
and
then
I
wanted
to
say
in
the
first
line
of
the
letter
they
do
state
that
this
change
was
made
as
part
of
the
2021
Connecticut
budget
bill,
which
is
over
800
plus
pages
long.
So
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
they
did
change.
J
It
was
due
to
the
budget
and
obviously
I'm
I'm,
assuming
because
it's
not
clearly
stated
that
it's
saving
money,
I'm
still
kind
of
up
in
the
air
but
I
mean
I,
think.
Obviously,
the
elections
have
been
held
in
May,
so
what
has
happened
when
they
were
held
in
May?
Were
they
at
West
Side
before
before
was
Thames
river
and
they
were
in
school
at
that
time?
So
it
obviously
did
happen
so
forth
and
so
on
and
I
guess,
so
this
municipality
obviously
was
able
to
do
it.
J
So
I
mean
I
mean
it's
something
that
has
been
done
but
I
mean,
and
it
just
seems
that
kind
of
out
in
the
air
we're
just
doing
this,
because
we
wanted
to
get
everybody
on
this
in
November
kind
of
thing.
So
there's
I
think
just
a
lot
of
clarification
that
needs
to
be
done
and
how
much
of
these
800
plus
pages
are
we
going
to
look
through
in
order
to
I
mean
I,
appreciate
clerks
come
be
able
to
send
us
some
things
that
we
could
look
at
to
better
vote
on
it.
H
But
sadly,
as
Mr
Bromley
had
pointed
out,
we
can't
once
we
have
it
on
November.
We
can't
go
back
and
that's
where
again,
a
legal
briefing
could
be
filed
to
see
if
that
could
be
adjusted.
So,
but
if
it
can't
then
I
I
still
stand
for
I.
Think
November.
You
get
more
people
to
come
out
to
vote
and
more
inclusive
again
to
the
you
know
to
the
community.
So
that's
where
I
stand.
E
Considering
that
I
just
had
a
thought,
I,
don't
remember
who
was
speaking
but
just
made
me
think,
oh
when
counselor
Norris
said
it.
So
if
the
thought
is
that
the
registrar
said
last
time
that
the
chain,
the
city,
voter
turnout,
is
not
significantly
different
in
May
than
it
is
in
November
correct.
That's
what
you
said
last
time:
it's
like
one
or
two
percent.
E
However,
if
the
council
thinks
that
it
makes
more
sense
to
put
it
on
the
ballot
in
November,
if
we
were
to
keep
the
election
in
May
for
one
more
term,
it
wouldn't
change
for
two
years
anyways.
So
what
we
could
keep
the
election
in
May
and
put
it
on
next
November's
ballot
if
we
think
that
that
would
be
a
truer
representation
of
people's
interests,
because
if
we
kept
it
in
May,
so
if
we
had
an
election
May
2023,
we
would
have
until
the
May
2025
election
to
change
it
to
November
anyways
like
it.
E
E
Right
so
it
would
go
just
on
the
City
ballot
City
residents
vote
in
November
also,
so
we
could
put
it
on
the
2023
ballot
and
then
it
would
also
give
if
the
decision
at
that
time
is
to
move
the
election
to
November.
It
would
give
us
an
entire
year
to
make
those
logistical
changes
for
the
following
election,
so
it
would
kind
of
spread
things
out,
and
this
is
the
other
thing
that
I've
been
talking
to
people
about
if
we
can
not
be
in
a
rush.
E
I
think
this
is
a
bad
decision
to
make
in
a
rush.
Also
I
think
it's
not
smart
to
rush
into
a
decision,
because
we
we
were
kind
of
forced
to
because
we
didn't
know
so
I
think
the
more
sensible
thing
is
to
to
not
rush
into
the
decision,
and
the
only
way
to
do
that
is
to
keep
at
least
one
more
election
in
May.
But
I
do
think
that
it
might
be
a
good
idea
instead
of
putting
it
on
the
May
ballot,
to
put
it
on
the
November
ballot
for
2023.
J
Thank
you,
mayor,
I,
think
oh
Deputy,
Mayor,
Depot
speaking
I
think
strategically.
That
sounds
really
good
to
do
this
and
change
it
over
to
here
strategically
when
you're
saying
rushed.
So
are
we
saying
that
our
leaders
rushed
into
this
decision,
because
when
you
read
this
paragraph
I
can't
say
they
rushed,
but
obviously
I'm
just
saying
hold
on
I'm,
just
saying
that,
obviously
somehow
this
was
formulated
for
some
reason
and
800
plus
pages
is
not
a
rush,
but
sometimes
you
know
when
we
put
it
together.
J
So
I
want
to
revisit
back
when
I
talked
about
Survey
Monkey,
everybody
seemed
to
be
happy
with
that
to
pull
our
people
through
SurveyMonkey
and
I
haven't
heard
that
being
brought
up
again
or
answered,
or
if
that
was
a
possibility,
we're
talking
about
putting
a
question
on
the
ballot,
but
then
we're
talking
about
putting
that
in
May
I'm.
Looking
for
something
to
happen
prior
to
similar
to
how
Sierra
Patrick
did
and
what
would
be
our
label
for
the
city.
J
Now
that
was
completed,
she
was
able
to
do
that
and
put
her
feelers
out
for
multiple
people.
Why
isn't
that?
We
can't
do
that
now.
So
I
don't
see
how
we
can't
put
out
the
same
question
to
our
voters
prior
to
may
just
to
get
a
majority.
If
we're
going
to
go
out
and
talk,
we
can
always
say
well
majority
of
the
people.
I
talk
to
majority
of
people
that
I
emailed
the
majority
of
this.
J
We
can
also
say
that
and
I
mean
just
as
much
as
Sierra
Patrick
said,
majority
of
people
that
answered
the
question
reference
to
the
motto
for
city
of
Groton.
That
would
be
the
majority
who
actually
received
it.
Read
it
and
made
a
decision
about
it.
It
would
be.
It
would
be
similar
to
hear
whether
you
talk
to
them,
whether
you
send
something
out
to
them.
You
put
it
on
a
ballot
and
I'm.
Not
do
you
have
the
numbers
of
how
many
people
actually
can
vote
in
the
city
of
Groton
who
are
not
registered.
J
That
would
be
interesting
to
me,
because
I
I
feel
that
we're
only
touching
out
to
registered
voters
and
I
think
we
would
I
mean
we
care
about
the
city.
I
think
we
should
be
moving
also
to
get
more
people
registered.
I
know
it's
always
out
there.
They
do
at
the
DMV,
they
do
it
at
the
post
office.
It's
always
asked.
Are
you
a
registered
voter,
but
I
mean
especially
with
this
going
on?
J
B
A
F
How
many
actually
see
it,
and
so
I'd
want
to
make
sure
that
it
it's
at
least
a
certain
percentage
of
residents
to
make
sure
that
they
even
see
it.
So
if
we
wanted
to
supplement,
have
have
it
on
the
ballot
whenever
I
like
the
November
idea,
a
little
better
than
a
May
ballot,
so
that
we
get
a
good,
a
better
representation
but
also
supplement
it
with
the
Survey
Monkey
to
maybe
catch
those
people
that
aren't.
But
then
you
have
the
problem
of
getting
duplicate
people
voting
twice.
So
there's
not
a
good
answer.
F
B
J
E
Well,
I
just
want
to
clarify,
because
I
didn't
mean
that
the
bill
was
not
I
just
mean
that
we
just
found
out
about
it
in
August,
and
the
political
committees
are
already
looking
for
candidates
for
the
May
election,
so
we're
kind
of
put.
If
we
were
to
let
the
let
it
change
to
November,
we
are
kind
of
pushing
like
a
timeline.
That's
what
I
meant
for
us.
It's
kind
of
a
rush
I
didn't
mean
that
the
bill
was
kind
of
a
rush
again.
E
E
So
if
we
keep
it
right,
so
if
we
keep
it
in
May,
that
requires
five
out
of
the
six
of
us
to
vote,
to
keep
it
after
that,
it
only
requires
a
majority
which
is
half
well
half
plus
one,
so
it
only
requires
four
votes
to
move
it
to
November
after
that.
So
that
was
my
thought
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I
would
say
about
the
Survey
Monkey
I
do
think
it's
a
good
idea.
It
would
capture
additional
people.
E
My
concern
is
verifying
those
people
because
anyone
can
fill
those
out
and
there's
no
way
to
verify
it.
Now,
with
economic
development
surveys
and
tagline
surveys
and
stuff.
That's
to
me:
that's
lower
Stakes
than
taking
that
survey
as
official
I'm,
not
sure
if
there's
ways
to
verify
to
make
it
more
secure,
but
in
general
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
way
to
verify
people's
identity
via
SurveyMonkey,
at
least
the
way
I've
seen
because
I've
taken
several
at
least
the
way
I've
seen
so.
E
I
also
think
that
if
we
were
to
put
it
on
the
ballot
in
November
instead
next
year,
which
we
hadn't
thought
of
last
time,
it
would
give
us
more
lead
time
to
talk
to
people
and
let
people
know
it's
going
to
be
coming
up
on
the
November
ballot.
So
we
could
be
talking
about
it
at
our
meetings.
We
could
put
it
out
on
our
Facebook
page
that
it's
going
to
be
a
question
on
the
ballot
and
we
will
get
an
even
better
representation
with
more
lead
time
for
it
being
on
the
ballot.
I
Thank
you,
everyone
for
your
patience,
so
I
CCM
is
a
good
outlet
for
us.
We
are
unique,
so
I
think
the
more
ways
we
can
see
people's
opinion.
It's
a
great
idea.
We
do
realize
that
in
the
state
of
Connecticut
anywhere
from
38
to
42
percent
of
households
do
not
have
computers
so
as
much
as
we
want
to
do
surveys
via
the
Internet
to
a
large
extent.
I
That
may
not
be
helpful,
so
I
think
between
Word
of
Mouth
SurveyMonkey,
put
it
on
a
ballot
somewhere
that
that
could
be
all
great,
but
I
really
need
some
facts.
Also,
because
we've
talked
about
it
may
be
easier
to
vote,
not
easy
to
vote
confusing
to
vote.
So
first
I
would
like
to
know
logistically
what
would
it
take
to
move
or
have
keep
the
election
in
November?
I
Not
only
what
does
it
mean
logistically,
because
we
do
know
in
terms
of
personal
and
operational
scheduling,
it
may
be
easier
in
November
because
school
people
taking
their
kids
to
school.
So
again,
what
does
that
mean?
But
at
the
same
time,
what
is
the
cost
to
that
and
again
looking
for
data,
because
I
kind
of
hear?
Well,
it
may
be
a
little
cheaper.
Well
really,
do
we
need
to
get
different
ballot
boxes.
Do
we
need
to
print
more
stuff?
Do
we
so
there's
a
cost
to
all
of
this?
I
So
right
now,
in
my
opinion,
I'm
trying
to
make
a
decision
pretty
much
on
two
things,
one
I'm
guessing,
which
is
best
for
the
residents
and
two
I'm,
guessing
that
it's
going
to
be
fifty
dollars
cheaper,
so
I
think
the
more
information
I
have
the
easier
it
is
for
me
to
make
a
decision
that
I
am
comfortable
with
the
next
part
to
that
is,
and
then
I
promise
to
stop
speaking
marriages.
So
let's
say
we
decide
to.
I
F
I
I
B
C
So
let
me
pull
it
up.
Actually,
quick
and
simple:
we've
been
Stu
and
I.
The
mayor's
Executive
Admin
just
been
thinking
about
streamlining
streamlining
the
agenda,
as
you
all
can
see.
There's
a
agenda
in
here
that
says
draft
in
your
packet.
You
can
compare
it
to
your
Committee
of
your
current
Committee
of
the
whole
agenda.
B
E
I
think
this
is
a
good
idea.
It
also
makes
it
look
more
like
our
group
agendas.
The
way
we
there
is
like
a
whole
list,
but
only
the
ones
we're
discussing
are
on
the
agenda,
which
makes
sense.
My
only
question
is
the
numbers
that
are
on
the
agenda
usually
are
the
same
every
month
for
the
same
topics
right
so
Groton
utilities,
financials
is
always
561.
correct,
so
does
changing
it
to
this
other
method,
remove
some
method
of
tracking
across
minutes
or
anything
that
we
were
using
before,
or
is
that
just.
A
C
Would
say
it's
below
at
both
it's
kind
of
the
old
system
it
was
using,
it
would
still
be
their
tracking
base.
You
know
if,
if
there's
actually
be
going
to
be,
you
know
financials
being
discussed,
then
that
would
be
included
in
here,
whether
or
not
that
happens
or
not,
but
it
would
just
be.
For
example,
the
top
one
I
would
have
discussion
only
or
presentation
only,
but
it
would
always
be
included,
so
it
would
like.
A
E
G
B
G
I
understand
but,
and
what
I'm
saying
is
that
is
there
a
reason
why
they're
on
there
for
the
purpose
of
and
I
know,
I
mean
I,
think
Deb
Patrick
would
actually
have
the
answer
to
that,
but
it
would
almost
seem
that
and
not
saying
that
you
don't
have
brilliant
ideas
right.
That's
a
good
idea,
but
it
almost
seems
like
almost
too
good,
of
an
obvious
idea
like
why.
Why
is
it
like
this?
In
the
first
place?
Is
there
a
particular
reason
behind
that?
G
C
Dating
back
I,
don't
even
know
how
how
back
the
thing
was
that
they
were,
they
were
almost
seem
like
the
numbers
were
everywhere.
I
mean
there's
numbers
popping
in
here
from
one
from
appointments
to
around
800
and
I'm,
wondering
looking
back
if
I
had
hours
in
the
day
to
just
search
back
what
happened
to
all
those
numbers
in
between.
So
the
point
is
it's
kind
of
just
clearing
these
numbers
out
and
starting
fresh.
C
A
G
Isn't
just
this
with
a
lot
of
things,
you
know
some
things
that
I
will
just
simply
wasn't
around
you
know.
Even
the
utilities,
like
you
know,
certain
things,
it's
like
all
right.
Well,
why
was
it
set
like
this?
To
begin
with,
you
know
there
might
be
a
reason
that
we
have
no
idea
for
that's
all
I'm
asking.
F
I
actually
really
really
appreciate
this
proposal
that
you're
making
it's
a
lot
easier
to
read.
I
remember
when
I
first
became
a
counselor
and
I
was
trying
to
follow
the
agenda
of
what
we
were
talking
about
and
I
couldn't
even
figure
out
with
all
the
other
things.
I
do
know
that
our
committee
packets
do
have
all
the
past
referrals
in
it
until
we
have
them
removed.
So
it's
not
like
that
information
would
be
lost
to
the
counselors.
F
They
still
could
get
it
for
their
committees
and
we
could
always
if,
if
you
wanted
include
those
in
those
packets
but
just
to
have
an
agenda,
that's
an
actual
agenda
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
and
it's
probably
it's
easier
to
read
and
if
I
would
guess,
it
might
be
easier
for
you
to
put
together
to
keep
in
your
head.
What
we're
going
to
be
discussing
this
just
feels
like
a
cut
and
paste
from
week
to
week.
I
I
B
We
brought
it,
we
brought
it
so
that
we
would
get
the
councils
we
brought
it
to.
Let
the
council
know
what
he
was
looking
to
do.
I
thought
it
was
a
good
idea,
let's
bring
it
to
council,
let's
get
comment
and
then,
if
there,
if
the
council's
okay
with
it
we'll
get
a
consensus
and
the
next
time
you
see
your
Committee
of
the
whole
agenda.
It
will
look
like
this.
F
K
The
way
it
works
is
in
this
case,
Bill
Memorial
Library,
applied
to
the
state,
went
through
either
city
council
or
Town
Council
to
make
a
recommendation
that
are
approved,
I
assume
it
was
the
Town
Council,
because
I
didn't
see
it
come
through
here.
So
it
goes
through
the
local
municipality
it
gets
brought
to
the
state.
The
state
looks
at
the
merits
of
it
and
says
yep
you're,
a
member
you're
doing
this,
and
then
the
businesses
will
solicit
a
lot
of
the
charitable
organizations.
K
That
applied
will
solicit
businesses
and
say:
might
you
sponsor
us?
Might
you
sponsor
us
and
then
a
committee
gets
together
and
picks
usually
a
city-centric
participant?
It's
been
Sacred
Heart
in
the
past
it's
been
Odd
Fellows.
In
the
past
it's
been
the
town
library
in
the
past.
Multiple,
it's
been
the
city
itself
in
the
past,
so
this
year
the
recommending
Bill
Memorial
Library
for
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
K
K
H
I
K
I
Okay,
because
I
would
and
and
I
was
really
not
talking
about
utilities,
but
I
think
it
may
be
a
good
idea.
I,
don't
know
we
may
already
do
it
that
any
501c3
organization
that
falls
within
the
city
of
Groton
can
apply
for
this
process
and
go
through
it.
So
maybe
next
May
when
this
comes
up
again,
we
look
at
doing
that.
E
So
I
think
we,
when
we
post
it
because
I
remember
we
put
when
you
posted
the
Sacred
Heart
award
on
there
I
believe
we
do
post
the
program
details
that
other
in
those
postings
on
Facebook
and
on
our
website,
so
I
do
know
it's
out
there
I
think,
just
like
everything
else.
We
do
with
economic
development
in
business
Outreach.
It's
like
how
do
you
get
the
info
to
the
people
who
need
it
kind
of
thing,
but
I
think
that
we've
been
pretty
consistent
over
the
last
several
years.
E
At
least
you
know,
we've
been
active
on
Facebook
for
a
while.
Now
that
we've
been
consistent,
we
also
do
we
talk
about
this
on
City
day
at
all,
because
that
might
be
another
place.
To
put
it
out
is
to
on
City
day
to
put
the
information
out
there.
That
might
be
an
option
considering
that
Groton
utilities
has
a
booth.
E
I'm,
aware
of
that,
might
that
might
be
a
good
idea,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
charitable
organizations
or
representatives
from
charitable
organizations
come
because
that's
when
we
give
out
the
Jacqueline
B
Nixon
award,
so
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
pay
attention
to
that
for
City
day,
so
I
feel
like
that
might
be
kind
of
the
same
crowd.
Sometimes
that
could
apply
for
this
as
well.
So
that
might
be
another
another
point
of
information
that
we
could
give
out,
but
other
than
that
I
think
we
do
a
great
job.
E
K
There's
rules
e
and
Ron
know
some
of
the
rules
if
you're
curious,
but
the
state
gives
I
believe
it's
about
five
million
dollars
and
then
based
on
how
many
applicants
and
how
many
awards
they
are,
the
the
award
is
up
to
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
The
state
can
lower
that
amount
if
it
sees
if
it
gives
too
many
other
charitables
the
donations.
So
that's
the
max
amount.
The
check
would
be
in
either
case
it's
no
cost
to
the
utility.
I
B
Well,
this
is
not
a
this
is
a
grant,
but
it's
an
energy
Grant,
so
it
is
for
something
done
related
to
energy.
For
example,
they're
going
to
be
replacing
Windows
Sacred
Heart
last
year
replaced
heat
pump,
and
then
you
know
so
it's
not
a
cash
award
to
do
whatever
you
want.
It's
got
to
be
energy
related.
I
H
Yeah
regarding
this
resolution,
like
I,
said:
I,
don't
see
the
specifics
of
the
energy
part
as
far
as
the
contribution.
So
that's
what
made
me
think
that
this
could
be
used
for
other.
You
know
low
income
and
type
of
spending,
but
but,
like
I
said,
I
was
looking
for
the
wording
of
you
know:
energy
investment
and
I
didn't.
K
B
If
I
have
we
already
moved
this
okay
I'll
take
a
motion
to
move
this
to
October
3rd
parent
council
meeting
some
moved
second
most
of
the
second.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
hearing
that
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
extension
motion
carries
okay,
technological
solutions,
LLC
for
scada
prism.
K
The
this
motion
and
the
next
motion
will
be
related
because
their
technology
technological
solutions,
LLC,
we
run
a
computer
system,
A
scada
system
that
actually
controls
the
distribution
system
and
the
substations
they're
connected
via
a
computerized
system.
It
all
is
monitored
back
to
the
control
room
and
operations,
and
that
program
needs
to
be
updated,
along
with
the
programming
that
controls
the
different
switches
and
relays
and
Breakers
in
the
substations.
K
The
first
one
is
related
to
programs
that
exist
that
have
to
be
updated
for
existing
equipment.
The
second
one
is
very
specifically
Capital
related
for
the
Buddington
substation
upgrade
for
new
controls
on
new
systems
that
we
are
procurement
procuring
through
the
Buddington
substation
upgrade
project,
so
they're
similar,
but
one
is
capitalized
and
one
is
expense,
so
one
is
considered
maintenance
and
the
second
one
is
considered
capitalized
part
of
the
project.
H
B
K
I
K
K
It's
all
configuration
onto
plc's
to
the
computers
that
are
basically
the
human
man
interface.
So
it's
updating
all
those
software,
algorithms
and
everything
to
get
along
with
each
other
and
make
sure
that
he
works
with
the
guys
so
that
if
a
breaker
trips
it'll
actually
do
a
count
of
three
and
then
maybe
do
a
retry
or
do
the
right
alarming
as
appropriate.
Right.
I
K
K
B
K
These
the
first
batch
of
Ami,
automated
meter,
read
meters,
is
actually
starting
to
get
archaic
they're
about
15
years
old
and
that's
about
all
they
last
so
about
a
year
ago,
we
ran
a
resolution
through
for
about
2
000
meters
and
we're
starting
to
get
them
in
monthly.
With
all
the
supply
issues,
we
figured
that
we
better
get
another
order
in
so
that
we
continue
to
get
a
pallet
a
month
that
might
have
200
meters
on
it
ongoing
moving
into
the
future.
It
is
a
it's
a
replacement
of
capital.
E
I
K
That's
a
good
question:
I
actually
don't
know
if
we
do
that
with
electric.
We
do
do
that
with
water,
because
water
ends
up
changing
their
meter
is
an
event,
but
when
we
change
electric
meters
I'm
actually
not
sure,
but
when
we
pull
a
meter
and
put
it
back
in,
they
generally
knock
on
the
door.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
we
do
a
note
ahead
of
time,
I'll
actually
send
an
email
to
the
mayor's
office,
and
let
you
know
that
tomorrow,
all.
K
B
E
B
A
K
I,
don't
believe
there
was
another
discount
available.
That's
probably
why
we're
ordering
two
thousand,
but
that
is
about
what
we're
trying
to
replace
every
year
is
about
2
000
and
at
some
point
we
may
even
have
higher
contractors
to
help
us
out
if
we
can
get
more
than
200
meters
a
month,
we're
just
having
a
hard
time
getting
the
meters.
K
B
H
K
J
J
B
B
L
A
couple
things
just
quick
to
point
out:
if
you
do
look
through
them,
you'll
see
the
month
to
date
in
water
and
sewer.
The
revenue
for
industrial
is
a
little
down
that
is
currently
being
investigated
on.
One
of
the
industrial
customers
appears
to
be
a
little
bit
lower
than
normal.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
will
stick
out
if
you
flip,
through
from
the
revenue
side
and
then
on
the
sewer
that
reduction
in
the
water
also
affects
the
sewer,
along
with
the
detox.
L
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
then
the
other
thing
is
that
we
are.
We
have
a
meeting
scheduled
for
tomorrow
to
start
the
review
of
the
PPA
TCA
for
the
electric,
with
the
forecast
for
the
winter
months
that
we've
received
from
cmax,
so
that'll
be
started,
we're
looking
at
it
through,
obviously
through
on
the
end
of
September,
so
that
will
be
coming
to
you
as
well.
With
the
findings
of.
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Okay,
so
we
came
out
of
executive
session
at
824.
We
took
a
break.
We
are
now
back
into
regular
session
and
with
that,
I
will
take
a
motion
to
move
the
purchase
of
the
mother.
Bailey
house
prescription
move
the
sale
of
the
mother
Bailey
house
to
the
October
3rd
Marin
council
meeting.
Second
women.
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second.