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City of Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Committee of the Whole FYE Budget Review Session. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
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A
A
Okay,
good
all
right,
the
first
one
I
have
is
office
expenses
and
advertising.
A
The
advertising
mostly
is
for
posting
jobs
and
this
particular
budget,
because
in
under
office
expenses,
I
was
told
by
the
it
department
this
year
that
I
needed
to
replace
our
desktops
because
they're
very
old
and
they're
very
slow,
and
so
what
we
did
instead
of
replacing
the
desktops
is.
A
We
are
replacing
laptops
instead
of
the
desktops
and
having
docking
stations
so
that
the
applications
that
we
have
to
pay
to
put
on
each
device
we'll
now
only
have
to
put
on
one
and
we
can
those
will
be
portable,
we'll
have
docking
stations
over
at
ops
because
two
of
us
at
least
go
over
operations
every
once
in
a
while.
Johanna
goes
over
twice
a
week,
so
we've
done
that.
So
the
actual
office
supplies
in
order
to
try
to
compensate
I've
reduced
that
from
750
to
250
dollars.
A
A
I
reduced
that
by
500
from
1750
to
12.50
and
the
renewal
of
our
membership
with
skill
path,
which
allows
us
to
have
it's
a
subscription,
so
we
can
do
trainings
for
ourselves
for
hr
and
also
use
it
to
train
other
people
which
we've
done
this
year
with
several
new
management
hires,
which
has
worked
out
really
well
the
sure
membership.
I've
only
allowed
one
membership
this
year,
we're
going
to
share
it
so
that
brought
that
down
from.
A
A
A
That's
staying
the
same
because
sometimes
we
need
to
go
on
the
outside
to
get
special
training,
that's
not
offered
by
either
ccm
or
by
skill
path,
and
we
didn't
do
much
traveling
last
year
for
training
we
did
none.
So
I
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen,
so
I
knocked
that
down
from
250
to
150
for
200
miles
of
training,
travel
or
conferences.
A
A
A
If
you,
if
you
attend
85
of
the
meetings
you
get
another
reward,
so
that's
just
for
the
hr
department
and
that
went
from
300
to
400..
I
decreased
our
attorney
fees
from
10
000
to
5
000..
I've
been
decreasing
those
every
year
because
it
doesn't
seem
that
we
use
them.
Most
of
our
issues
are
with
the
union.
Of
course.
As
soon
as
I
did
this
on
the
budget,
we
had
a
bunch
of
issues
that
came
up
that
are
non-union
and
that
are
employment
related.
A
So
I
believe
well
we're
going
to
try
to
keep
it
down
to
the
5,
000
and
hope
for
the
best
employment
posters.
We
have
to
put
up
employment
posters,
that's
the
law
and
we
have
to
put
them
in
several
different
places,
in
fact,
because
of
our
different
facilities
and
how
large
some
of
them
are,
we
had
to
order
nine
sets,
which
is
nine
hundred
dollars
and
I'm
again
have
put
in
for
a
human
resource
information
system.
We
do
not
have
one,
and
this
will
reduce
our
workload
substantially.
It
will
add
efficiency,
accuracy,
timeliness.
A
A
A
So
that's
that's
my
big
ass
this
year,
utilities
and
fuel,
I'm
not
letting
anybody
put
the
heat
on.
So
that's
gone
down
from
1200
to
a
thousand
we're
saving
200
employees.
I
put
in
a
two
and
a
half
percent
ron,
I'm
not
sure
what
we're
doing
this
year
right.
So
I
put
a
two
and
a
half
percent
increase
in
which
just
you
know,
dollar
for
dollar
brings
it
up
to
another
5
309
and
then
fica
went
up
394
and
our
benefits
went
up
four
thousand
one
hundred
and
seventy
nine
dollars.
A
D
Thank
you
for
the
thorough
explanation
and
I
it's
obviously
very
clear
that
you've
tried
to
shift
money
to
put
it
where
it
can
better
be
used.
My
question
is:
how
old
is
the
hr
system
you're
using
right
now?
We.
A
A
The
the
reporting
is
so
cumbersome
that
it's
very
hard
to
run
reports.
So,
for
instance,
we
have
15
spreadsheets
that
we
use,
in
addition
to
entering
information
into
spring
break.
We
also
entered
into
separate
spreadsheets.
A
We
spent
so
much
time
duplicating
work
and
we
still
don't
have
it
right,
because
you
have
to
put
it
into
several
different
places,
so
one
may
get
lost
along
the
way
because
we
get
so
many
interruptions
with
this
system.
You
put
it
in
once
and
the
the
reporting
is
so
easy.
It's
just
clicking
on
the
different
headings
that
you
want
when
we
bring
in
someone
we've
done
so
many
so
many
over
50
new
hires.
A
Since
I've
been
here
almost
four
years,
you
bring
them
in
as
the
candidates
and
then
once
they're
in
the
system.
You
just
move
them
along
to
candidate
to
a
new
hire.
They
get
all
their
information,
we
can
send
it
to
them.
They
have
a
login
into
the
hris
system
to
do
all
their
all
their
forms
and
right
now,
with
our
seasonals,
we
hire
50.
We
have
55
people
that
are
seasonal.
A
We
had
43
returning
and
we're
looking
at.
I
guess
10
that
are
need
to
be
hired.
The
paperwork
for
them
has
been
horrible.
It's
been
very
hard,
getting
all
the
paperwork
in
and
so
we're
going
back
and
forth
with
emails
all
the
time
very
inefficient
use
of
our
time.
C
So
we've
been
trying
to
force
fit
this
into
the
system
that
we
have
and
it
doesn't
work.
So
that's
why
we're
going
we're
going
to
try
this?
We
think
this
is
going
to
work
on
the
side.
I
talked
to
sue
blachhatter,
iit,
gm
general
manager
of
it
and
and
she's
going
to
see
if
she
can
get
springbok
to
work.
C
We're
not
we're
not
sure
if
it's
going
to
work
or
not,
but
we
need
something
to
help
with
the
workload
here,
because
if
you
go
back
at
one
point,
it
was
just
hr
and
one
specialist
or
generalist,
and
then
we
hired
one
other
person
and
then
they're
still
very
busy
and
when
we're,
when
you
do
hires
over
in
the
utility,
if
you're
hiring
from
within
that's
good.
But
then
you
got
to
hire
a
fill
and
move
them.
D
It
must
be
a
pain,
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
I'm
happy
that
we're
doing
this,
because
this
kind
of
streamlining
is
also
better
for
employee
relations,
because
when
you
get
hired
it's
a
nightmare
when
it
takes
forever
to
get
your
paperwork
through,
and
all
of
that,
so
I'm
happy
to
see
we're
streamlining
that
a
little,
because
I
I
like
to
see
improvements
in
employee
happiness,
employee.
A
Classes,
absolutely
I'm
100
with
you
on
that
one
and
something
else
that
happens
that
will
be
helpful
is
because
we've
got
eight
unions.
Everybody's
vacation
time
is
different
and
they
all
hit
the
you
know
their
length
of
service
changes
to
how
many
extra
days
they
get
once
they
hit
10
years
and
15
years.
It's
very
very
difficult
to
get
that
over
to
payroll
on
time,
because
again,
it's
another
spreadsheet
that
we
have
to
keep
up
and
change
when
people
hit
their
next
level.
So
all
of
this
is
just
going
to
be
really
great.
A
C
Any
other
comments,
counselor
sheffield.
A
F
If
I
may,
I'm
not
quite
sure
who
the
first
question
is
to,
but
procedurally
is
there
a
percent
increase
for
salaries,
that's
across
the
board,
because
you
kind
of
said
you
didn't
know.
I.
C
You
go
right
ahead,
okay,
so
with
our
contracted
labor,
we
have
contract
agreements
that
we
we've
bargained,
and
so
there
is
a
percentage
there
by
contract.
Typically,
what
we've
done
here
in
the
past
is
for
non-union.
Is
we
for
the
same
increase?
So
we
typically
pick
we
haven't
put
that
out
yet
no
matter
right,
but.
B
C
C
That's
that's
how
we
we
do
it
here,
different
municipalities.
Do
it
differently.
You
know
everybody
has
their
own
way
of
doing
it,
but
that's
I
inherited
that
I'm
okay
with
it
we're
still
we're
still
looking
at
our
evaluation
system
and
merit
phrases
and
all
those
kind
of
things
we're
not
quite
there
yet.
So
that's
why
we
do
it
like
we
do
it.
F
Sure
again,
I
apologize
it's
okay
in
terms
of
healthcare
costs.
Is
that
in
hr
or
is
that
somewhere
else.
B
F
A
It's
twenty
three
thousand
dollars.
A
B
A
Expensive
I
looked
at
paychecks
and
paycom
also
last
year
in
the
year
before,
so
this
seemed
like
the
most
reasonable
and
could
do
a
lot
of
what
we
do
manually.
F
A
Well,
my
goal
since
I've
been
here
is
to
make
hr
much
more
efficient
and
helpful
to
payroll
to
the
employees,
get
things
done
on
time
and
accurately,
as
you
can
see,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
that
goes
on
here.
It's
a
lot
about
people
and
that's
what
I
need
it
for
and
that's
probably
the
biggest.
That
is
the
biggest
item
for
me.
A
D
The
computers,
obviously,
that
is
an
increased
cost
this
year-
that's
not
a
cost,
that's
going
to
continue
correct
annually
so
next
year
that
will
go
down.
I
also
want
to
comment.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
to
have
laptops,
because
for
any
other
reason,
if
we
have
an
issue
where
we
can't
be
in
the
municipal
building,
it
allows
people
to
work
from
home,
probably.
A
A
C
C
G
D
G
G
The
quick
synopsis
is
that,
as
at
least
most
of
you
know,
this
is
my
first
year
doing
a
budget
before
all
of
you
so,
and
it's
also
my
first
year
doing
a
budget
during
covet.
G
So
my
I
worked
basically
on
the
assumption
that
when
this
budget
was
being
prepared,
it
was
done
not
with
the
anticipation
of
covid,
so
that
it
was
done
with
the
anticipation
of
its
being
in
normal
year,
and
so
I
changed
very
little.
G
If
you
look
at
on
page,
I
think
it's
49
or
you
can
look
at
the
screen.
The
changes
there's
a
25
000
change
and
that
is
to
pay
for
our
portion
of
a
new
resiliency
officer.
B
G
Sorry,
all
right,
that's
why
we
that's
why
we're
up
there
so
the
so!
That's
the
reason
for
the
difference
in
that
one
line
item
it's
to
cover
a
portion
of
a
portion
of
a
position
slot
we're
working
very
hard
on
resilience,
and
we
have
I've
talked
to
the
town
about
what
we
would
want
that
position
to
do.
G
I've
talked
to
gotten
utilities
about
what
we'd
want
that
person
to
do
within
the
they're
thinking
about
working
on
resiliency
from
their
end
as
well,
so
we're
looking
to
try
and
make
this
as
affordable
and
reasonable
as
possible,
so
everybody's
sort
of
taking
a
piece
of
it.
This
is
our
piece.
It's
a!
Can
you
go
back
one
jill,
sorry.
G
C
Talking
about
we've
been
talking
about
resilience
for
yeah
a
couple
years
now
the
town,
john
burke
town
manager
called
me
talked
about
it,
so
we're
picking
up
a
day
and
they're
gonna
have
the
rest
and
so
we're
funding
a
day's
worth
of
an
individual
individual
has
not
been
hired
yet
I'll,
be
sitting
on
the
board
to
hire
that
or
leslie
will
probably
to
to
select
the
individual,
but
they
will
be
working
on
resiliency
issues
and
they'll
report
to
leslie
we're
looking
at
a
couple
different
things,
one,
how
it
impacts,
planning
and
zoning
and
those
kind
of
things,
and
also
infrastructure.
C
So
we
currently
have-
and
I
think
some
of
you
are
aware-
we
currently
have.
C
D
B
D
C
Well,
they
shouldn't
they.
They
john
town
manager
and
I
john
burt,
talked
about
the
the
range
that
they
were
that
they
were
going
to
offer
in
the
position.
We
come
up
with
a
number,
and
he
said
here,
and
he
did
we
did
the
math
and
he
said
here's
the
number
we're
looking
for
for
your
support
fully
loaded.
So
I
I
don't
expect
them
to
come
back
and
say
we're
going
to
need
more.
G
I
know
this
is
you
know,
budget
meeting
and
it's
about
the
finances,
but
I
just
want
to
make
clear
this
is
now
we're
now
moving
into
phase
two
of
something
that
we
have
been
working
on
phase.
One
of
so
we
you
know,
we've
had
a
plan
to
move
this
forward.
G
It
is
moving
forward
and-
and
this
is
the
the
next
step-
is
to
hire
somebody
who
can
once
we
have
what
was
my
loan
and
mcbroom
they're
now
slr
slr
they're
going
to
be
doing
that
in
that
study,
with
giving
us
a
kind
of
a
toolbox
and
then
they'll
be
the
execution
of
that
toolbox.
G
A
lot
of
the
tools
are
tools
that
you
know
the
town
and
the
city
can
both
use.
Some
are
site-specific,
but
right
and.
C
C
Having
a
full-time
person
resiliency
and
then
this
position
might
go
away
because
john
said
that
they
may
grow
more
over
there.
So
right
now
we're
starting
and
our
activities
align
the
city
and
the
town
are
both
looking
at
resiliency.
We
both
have
coastal
access
and
what's
good
for
one
is
good
for
the
other
and
the
applications
of
something
that
may
apply
on
on
their
part
of
the
water
might
apply
to
our
part
of
the
shore
as
well.
So
it's
something
we're
looking
at
and
we've
got
us.
E
Yes,
so
this
position
will
be
in
will
be
temporary
in
scope
until
it
develops
more
to
where
we
can
make.
C
It
until
it
changes
right
and
we
don't.
We
honestly
don't
know
what
that
change
is
going
to
be
and
when
that
change
is
going
to
be,
but
we
both
and
both
meaning
town
manager,
burt,
and
I
both
anticipate
that
it's
going
to
change
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
talked
to
the
utility
about
is
because
of
the
infrastructure
and
I'm
talking
about
sewer
lines,
water
lines,
electric.
C
The
fact
that
we
have
an
electric
plan
here.
Excuse
me
a
sewer
plant
here
on
the
water.
Do
we
need
to
harden?
Do
we
need
to
move?
You
know?
What
is
it
we
need
to
do
and
because
of
the
amounts,
the
miles
of
infrastructure
that
they
own,
it
may
be
worthwhile
for
them
to
have
their
own
resilience
person.
So
they're
evaluating
that
and
that
may
come
up
next
year
in
the
budget,
councilor
norris.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
the
comment
that
you
made
at
the
end,
who
says,
I
know
it's
a
budget
meeting
but
because
folks
need
to
know
that
there
is
a
plan
and
the
numbers
do
tell
a
story,
and
obviously
you
do
have
that
plan
and
you
do
know
the
story.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
explaining
that.
G
So
the
one
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention
is
that
we
will
be
making
some
changes
to
the
zoning
regulations
and
I
very
deliberately
did
not
put
money
in
for
a
consultant
for
that
that'll
be
done
in-house.
That
is
something
I
have
done
a
lot
of
in
my
have
a
lot
of
that
in
my
background,
and
so
that
will
definitely
be
something
that
is
done
in
house.
C
I
So
the
biggest
change
in
my
budget
would
be
for
the
contractual
services,
and
that
is
because
we
are
it's
two
projects
that
are
under
this.
So
there's
visioning
things
street
and
then
there's
also
the
strategic
communications
initiative
that
we
we
are
working.
I
I
So,
in
essence,
for
the
the
idea
for
the
visioning
things
street
this
year,
we
got
awarded
a
grant
from
preservation
connecticut
to
help
us
actually
execute
this
envisioning
things
sent
visioning
things
street
project
where
it's
basically
a
phase
two
from
the
nineteenth
partners
study
into
real
estate
development
along
fame
street.
So
we
got
a
grant
from
preservation
ct
for
about
25
000,
we're
matching
it
with
five,
so
for
planning
purposes
we
are
requesting
30
for
next
year
to
do
either
visioning
five
corners
or
visioning
bridge
street.
I
On
the
next
slide,
it
gives
a
view
of
the
tif
district
and
basically
kind
of
forms,
a
c
with
the
bridge
street
being
at
the
top
thames
street
in
the
center,
and
then
five
corners
just
below
that.
So
this
this
funding
would
be
to
continue
with
this
planning
of
real
estate
development
in
the
city.
C
I
One
with
the
graphic
yeah
so
this
year
through
that
grant
we'll
be
focusing
on
the
pink
area
and
then
for
the
following
fiscal
years.
We
will
move
on
to
the
blue
and
the
green
for
the.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide
for
the
strategic
communications,
we
are
going
to
be
going
into
phase
two
of
that.
I
B
I
just
want
to
point
one
thing
out
in
the
budget
book
on
page
50
and
the
prior
year
under
office
supplies
and
advertising
you'll
see
that
at
16
500
and
it's
down
to
1500
15
000
of
that
is
really
contractual
services
and
should
have
been
down
in
the
contractual
services
line
last
year,
where
so
that
change
is
really
17
000
to
the
44
250
and
no
change
in
office
supplies.
So
I
just
want
to
point
that
just
a
change
of
where
we
put
that
contracting
so.
F
Thank
you
man.
So
a
lot
of
the
increases
that
you're
talking
about
are
they
one-time
expenses,
meaning
they're
not
going
to
be
around
so
to
speak
in
2023
or.
I
I
It
is
a
one
time
for
phase
two,
but
there
will
be
certain
vendor
services
fees
that
we
would
have
to
maintain
to
continue
the
the
communications
effort
after,
but
it
won't
be
as
much
as
it
is
now.
It
would
go
significantly
all
right.
Thank
you.
C
So
one
of
the
things
that
director
your
house-
and
I
looked
at
in
forecasting
going
forward
for
the
next
three
years-
is
this
sustainable
or
is
it
not?
If
you
look
at
the
expenditures
from
2017
to
to
date,
we
have
increased
spending
by
2.2
million
dollars
a
year,
so
our
2.2
million
dollars.
That's
where
we're
at
that's
a
difference.
C
So
the
answer
is
yes,
this
is
finite,
but
then
there'll
be
there'll,
probably
be
another
economic
development
project
in
order
because
economic
development
is
continuous
in
its
city
agreement
right,
you
can't
just
okay,
economic
development,
we're
good,
okay,
we're
done.
Let's
go
home
right,
because
if
you're
not
moving
forward,
you're
not
moving
at
all.
So
that's
that.
C
But
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
and-
and
I
mentioned
this
before-
is
that
we
have
the
fees
coming
in
from
building
and
then
we
have
buildings
that
are
being
constructed
and
then
once
they
get
on
the
ground
list,
especially
the
ones
that
are
an
electric
boat
they're
in
an
enterprise
zone.
So
they
will
come
in
on
a
five-year
payback,
so
be
20,
then
40
and
then
work
their
way
up
to
100
payback.
C
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
projected
and
it's
not
a
exact
science,
although
you
can
put
it
on
paper
and
try
to
figure
it
out.
But
when
does
this
go
away?
And
when
does
this
come
up?
And
there
is
in
a
couple
years
there's
a
a
gap
period
that
is
we're
going
to
have
to
take.
Some
hard
looks
at
the
budget
now,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
now
is
we're
keeping
our
general
fund
up.
C
The
lenders
want
it
between
20
and
25
percent,
we're
24.1
percent,
so
that
gives
us
a
nice
cushion
there
so
and
we're
we're
anticipating
additional
fees
next
year.
That
will
add
additional
additional
cushion
to
that
general
fund.
So
that's
something
that
that
I've
asked
director
eughas
to
look
at
with
me
and
something
instead
of
looking
year
to
year,
we're
looking
three
years
out
and
we're
looking
at
revenues
based
on
projected
builds.
C
Although
you
can't
always
count
on
that
and
then
we're
looking
at
expenses
based
on
history
and
based
on
what
we
think
is
coming
up,
we
evaluated
doing
a
three
to
five
year,
rolling
average
or
doing
a
straight
mathematical
average.
C
We
decided
to
go
with
the
mathematical
average
and
so
we're
forecasting
expenses
and
forecasts
and
revenues
and
seeing
where,
if
there's
a
delta
and
where
that
is,
and
what
and
thinking
now,
what
am
I,
what
do
we
need
to
do
a
year
and
two
years
out,
so
that
we're
not
rapidly
raising
taxes
on
on
on
the
citizens.
So
so
far
we've
been
we've
we've
been
able
to
do
this
because
of
the
fees
and
we
lowered
taxes
and
then
last
year
we're
level
this
year
we're
level
so
that
strategy
is
working
so
far.
D
Is
there
or
are
there
grants
that
we
could
apply
for
again
this
coming
year?
That
might
impact
your
budget?
I
know
because
we
we
there's
been
a
few
times
where
you've
had
grants
for
different
projects.
Are
there
any
grants
that
may
we
haven't
applied
for
yet
that
we
might
be
eligible
for
that?
You
could
pursue
for
this
year
to
maybe
offset
these
increases.
I
There
are
grants
that
we
can
apply
for,
but
they
are
for
implementation,
whereas
this
grant
is
for
the
grant
that
we're
getting
happens
to
be
a
planning
grant
and
then
the
money
we're
asking
to
move
forward
or
for
the
planning
exercises.
So
once
we
do
the
planning,
I
do
feel
confident
that
we'll
have
grants
to
actually
execute
the
implementation
of
the
plans.
Okay,.
D
Thank
you,
and
the
last
thing
I
want
to
say
is
I
I
think
you
know
we've
put
a
big
emphasis
on
economic
development
and
I
think
that's
been
really
important.
We
have
had
in
the
last
four
years
many
new
businesses,
and
I
know
that
you've
worked
with
the
businesses
and
I
know
we've
tried
to
streamline
the
process
of
getting
businesses
going
and
their
paperwork,
and
all
that
stuff,
which
I
know
in
some
cities
is
very
complicated.
D
F
I'm
sorry
again,
so
I
commend
you
for
everything
that
you
do
and
finding
a
connection
between
that
that
long
range
plan
and
finding
grants
and
doing
surveys
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
like
anything
else,
when
do
you
foresee
or
what
do
you
foresee
in
the
next
12
24
months
at
some
point
of
implementation?
I
So
our
implementation
strategy
is
going
to
be
phased
since
we're
in
a
community
where
we
still
kind
of
need
to
discuss
what,
like
we
need
to
discuss
our
walkability
bike
ability.
We
need
to
discuss
our
infrastructure
there's
a
lot
of
deep
diving.
I
The
city
of
groton
has
to
do
as
a
community,
so
this
process
allows
us
to
plan
and
then
phase
out
implementations
through
a
common
phrase,
which
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
different
terminologies
for
it.
But
if
you
look
up
tactical
urbanism
is
probably
the
most
widely
used
phrase
of
doing
it,
where
we
do
these
law,
low-cost
implementations
that
are
temporary
just
to
test
out
different
design
concepts,
and
then
we
use
that
data
to
help
us
plan
for
a
longer
term
vision,
and
then
we
can
actually
do
more
hard
permanent
implementations
at
a
later
date.
E
Yes,
sid
sierra.
We
know
since
our
meeting
last
wednesday,
regarding
that
american
rescue
plan
to
get
that
access
for
those
grants
that
has
been
passed
by
congress.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
very
important
piece
that
we
can
use
to.
I
I
C
The
other
thing
we
need
to
I
want
to
look.
We
need
to
look
at
those
things.
The
other
thing
we
need
to
look
to
see
if
we're
going
to
be
eligible.
For
example,
a
lot
of
the
funds
are
going
to
the
town
they're
not
going
to
the
city,
so
they're,
going
to
the
169
recognized
municipalities
in
the
state
of
connecticut
and
therefore,
for
example,
the
three-point
whatever
it
is
million
dollars.
C
E
E
C
E
E
C
H
E
C
E
C
Where
the
highway
and
police
funding
is
set
up
by
the
special
act
right,
so
the
american
relief
funds
are
different
on
all
I'm
saying:
is
I'm
not
trying
to
be
argumentative?
What
I'm
trying
to
be
is
clear
is
that
we
need
to
verify
eligibility
that
we
are
eligible
for
these
funds.
When
we
go
ask
for
the
funds.
E
E
So
I'm
kind
of
not
very
clear,
but
I
see
where
you're
trying
to
go.
Okay,.
D
E
E
E
H
J
No
sierra,
I
appreciate
you
done
a
great
job
since
you've
been
with
the
city
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
what
you
will
continue
to
do
with
us.
I
just
want
to
piggyback
on
what
councilor
norway
said
and
I'm
one
that
I
believe
I
understand
what
counselor
norris
is
saying,
because
I
have
similar
views.
I
for
one,
I'm
kind
of
over
the
development
phase
or
the
kind
of
see
what
we
want
phase
and
I'm
already
I
mean
at
least
personally,
I'm
I'm
already
into
the
implement
phase.
J
I
think
that
the
the
city
of
bronze-
it's
not
a
big
place
at
all,
and
I
think
that
we
don't
we
shall
not
continue
to
if
we
can
avoid
it
to
pay
for
our
own
outside
researches
or
whatever
to
just
simply
just
you
know,
I
mean
just
do
grassroots.
You
know
just
kind
of
ask
ask
around
like
what
you
want.
You
know
I
I
I
know
that
there's
a
couple
obstacles
in
our
way.
As
far
as
far
as
developing
I
mean
for
one
thing
street.
J
I
know
people
know
what
the
major
obstacle
is.
Is
you
know
we
have
a
property
owner?
That's
you
know,
he's
kind
of
holding
tight
to
his
properties.
You
know
that
is
a
problem
you
know,
so
I
think
we
need
to
you
know
tackle
things
like
that.
Those
are
the
things
that
are
going
to
give
us
in
or
I
believe
that
are
going
to
get
us
into
the
inflammation
phase
in
order
why
I
mentioned
this
is
financially
you
know
it.
J
It
would
be
kind
of
disheartening
for
me
to
keep
paying
other
people
for
studies
when
when,
if
we
don't
see
implement
implants,
you
know
if
we
don't
see
all
this.
This
happens.
You
know,
like
I
mean
quick,
I'm
not.
I
mean
not
quick,
but
I
mean
you
know
I
mean
I
I
I
I
expect
to
be
elected
again
for
another
two
years
and
I
I
would
say
you
know
that
makes
six
years
for
me
and
it's
kind
of
the
same
thing
and
that's
not
your
fault.
J
You
know
this
is
this
goes
way
before
you
well
way
before
you,
but
I
think
we
need
to
just
get
it
done.
You
know
so
that
that's
my
takeaway
and
I
think
that's
what
dome.
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
counselor
norms,
but
I
think
we
we
need
to
implement
something
I
I'm
kind
of
over.
The
hang
for
the
studies.
J
I
Thank
you,
rashad,
and
just
to
I
guess,
comment
back
is
from
when
I
got
here.
We've
paid
for
basically
one
study,
which
was
the
vinaigrette
partner,
but
honestly,
technically
we
didn't
pay
for
it.
We
got
a
grant
from
thames
river
innovation
place
to
conduct
that
study.
That
was
a
very
high
level
overview
of
what
development
stuff.
I
What
tools
and
resources
that
the
city
of
grant
needs
to
put
in
place
to
actually
start
progressing
forward
and
we've
got
a
wealth
of
information
from
it
in
regards
to
our
zoning
regulations
and
land
use
and
our
streamlining
process,
and
we've
made
great
strides
from
the
completion
of
that
plan
to
basically
get
our
house
in
order.
So
the
this
next
grant
from
the
preservation
ct
is
paying.
I
It
is
playing
for
a
planning
study,
but
it's
working
with
the
community
to
get
to
the
ground
level
of
what
are
some
things
that
we
can
actually
quickly
implement.
So
we
got
the
high
level
and
now
we're
getting
we're
digging
further
down.
So
I
completely
understand
where
it's
like
you're,
tired
of
the
studies
and-
and
I
I
honestly
would
love
to
see
the
information
implementation
as
well
and
so.
J
C
C
B
C
C
D
I
just
have
a
question.
We
just
announced
that
we're
going
to
do
a
city
cleanup
day.
D
D
C
C
D
C
D
C
C
Absolutely
but
gratin
city
day
is
a
day
that
basically
we're
giving
back
to
the
people
who
live
and
work
in
the
city
of
grunt,
and
it's
a
great
way
for
our
departments
to
to
show
off.
You
know
their
what
the
services
that
we
do.
We
have
booths
and
things
like
that.
So
and
then
on
page
and
then
21
starts
the
administration.
C
We're
not
having
elections
this
next
year,
it's
only
in
the
odd
years
we
have
the
election
council
deputy
mayor
depot.
I.
D
On
recording
legal
documents
is
that
fees
we
paid
to
the
town
to
record
legal
documents
or
what?
What
is
that?
I
probably
asked
the
same
thing
last
year,
because
I
don't
remember.
B
No,
that's
where,
like
deb's,
salary
and
wages
are
paid
for
and
stuff
related
to
that,
just
the
cost
center.
It's
all
all
items
that
are
related
to.
H
H
H
Sorry
page
21,
okay,
light
item
4
general
support,
it
looks
like
it
goes
up,
5,
000
or
so.
Okay,
what's
that
increase
due
to.
C
H
B
So
that
that
would
be
the
admin
with
between
wages
and
benefits
and
then
again
what
other
cost
professional
development
that's
allocated
to
that
cost
center.
B
So
again,
I
think
that
we
sometimes
get
caught
up
on
the
cost
center
piece,
the
next
page
kind
of
shows
the
overall
budget
and
where
things
are
broken
out
more
in
detail,
that's
just
it
breaks
out
leadership
being
the
mayor's
piece,
the
recording
of
documents
being
the
clerk
and
then
the
general
support
being
the
administrative
right
for
as
far
as,
but
then
the
allocation
is
of
the
expenses
that
are
on
the
next
page.
C
J
I
was
just
looking
at
the
so
we
we
did
the
the
our
city,
our
current
city,
clerk,
is
retiring,
correct
and-
and
I
see
that
next
year's
budgeted
amount
for
city
clerk
is
more
than
what
she's
earning
now.
You
would
think
there'd
be
a
reduction
in
the
salary,
though.
C
J
Okay,
but
I
think
I
think
that
would
go
back
to
what
councilor
on
norris
is
saying
with.
As
far
as
our
structure
and
our
salaries,
you
know
when
we
don't
have
things
like
that
in
place,
it
kind
of
leaves
room
for,
because
I
just
don't,
but
I
would
somebody
with
20
years
of
more
than
40
years
of
experience,
I
mean
unless
we're
getting
somebody
on
board
that
has
the
same.
You
think
it
would
be
a
reduction
in
that
and
you
think
the
city
would
save
money,
hiring
a
new.
J
Okay,
I
again
I
I
was
saying
this
would
be
a
situation
where
you
think
the
city
would
make
a
reduction
and
save
money
when
we
have
a
clerk
with
over
20
years
of
experience
at
the
top.
But
yet
when
she
retires
we're
hiring
somebody
that's
making
more
than
our
current
clerk
for
over
20
years
has
ever
made
in
her
career
that,
if
you
look
at,
we
don't
have
to
go
back
and
forth
on
this.
J
It's
just
something
that
I
just
saw
because
I've
advocated
for
the
city
clerk
in
the
past
as
far
as
salary
bills-
and
I
just
I
just
don't
see
the
I
still
don't
see
the
reasoning
behind
it,
but
we
can
look
forward.
D
D
C
A
J
F
Thank
you
just
a
quick
question
on
page
22
with
office
supplies
and
advertising.
I
noticed
that
our
actual
in
20
was
let's
say:
65
budgeted
95.
our
estimated
this
year
is
45,
but
then
we're
going
back
up
to
95..
So
I
didn't
know
this
we're
following
a
trend
or
if
there's
a
reason,
I
think.
F
A
C
We
we
got
the
cost
savings
and
that's
why
we're
going
back
up.
We
we
recognize
that
we
are
still
in
covid
ish,
but
we
think
at
some
point
the
executive
order
is
going
to
go
back
to
we
have
to
publish
in
the
newspaper
and
that's
why
we're
increasing
that
line
item
now.
If
we
don't
spend
the
money,
then
it
all
goes
back
to
the
general
fund
and
we
won't
just
waste
it.
C
E
Number
number
two
recording
legal
documents
on
page
21.
B
E
B
Yeah
that
five
thousand
dollar
increase
in
the
contractual
services
was
an
increasingly
goal.
That's
just
a
general
legal.
E
C
B
On
page
30,
which
is
the
summary
page,
just
the
finance
proposed
budget
is
up
from
729
606
to
744,
324
or
just
a
little
bit
over
two
percent.
B
If
we
flip
to
page
32,
which
again
is
the
summary
of
all
the
expenses
you'll
see
the
largest
increase,
there
is
in
full-time
employees
and
the
reason
for
that
increase,
which
is,
we
talked
about
previously,
a
2.5
percent
for
salaries.
The
employees
in
finance
are
union
and
they
they'll
step.
If
you
remember
last
year,
when
I
presented
the
budget,
we
had
decreases
in
salaries
due
to
retirements
and
reversing
back
and
their
contract
settled.
B
So
this
is
to
true
up
to
get
them
to
the
correct
step
as
they're
going
through
the
for
increases
and
then
you'll
see.
Also
when
you
look
at
the
estimate
versus
even
the
actuals
for
2020
and
the
estimates
for
2021,
some
of
those
lines
looked
skewed,
meaning
the
admin
assistant
and
the
senior
accountant.
Those
were
both
retirements.
B
Well,
actually,
let
me
rephrase
that
one
one
was
a
retirement,
meaning
the
senior
accountant
and
that
position
is
has
not
been
filled
yet
with
covid
coming
in.
We
made
the
decision
to
kind
of
wait
to
get
through
that
then
you'll
also
see
the
changes
in
the
admin
assistant
and
also
accounting
assistant.
They,
the
accounting
assistant
retired,
the
admin
assistant,
moved
into
the
accounting
assistant
position.
B
B
The
health
health
insurance
medical
insurance
line
was
roughly
a
four
percent
increase.
We
are
self-funded,
so
it
was
what
we
determined
that
we
needed
to
put
into
our
self-insurance
plan
in
order
to
keep
that
properly
funded
for
for
medical,
the
pension
you
see
increases
again
across
the
board
there.
We
changed
some
assumptions
this
year
with
our
seven
one:
twenty
actuarial
valuation,
we
reduced
our
interest
rate,
assumption,
which
all
municipalities
have
been
kind
of
high
and
we've
been
all
trying
to
bring
it
back
down
by
reducing
that
interest
rate
assumption.
B
You
increase
your
actual
determined
contribution,
which
means
the
city
has
to
contribute
more
into
the
pension
fund,
just
because
you're
missing
that
assumption
every
year.
So
it's
again
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
like
with
the
with
the
capital,
and
we
do
have
a
requirement
to
fund
the
actual
determined
contribution,
so
that
was
the
and
then
the
mortality
table
also
changed
in
the
pension
we
switched
to
a
different
table
and
municipal
retirees
are
living
longer
was
one
of
the
outcomes
with
that
majority
change
in
mortality
table
and
then
there's
a
couple
other
changes.
B
B
The
life
insurance
is
truly
just
based
on
wages,
it's
kind
of
a
calculation.
We
pay
a
percentage
per
thousand
of
wages
for
everybody
for
the
the
life
piece,
so
you'll
see
those
make
may
go
up
just
a
very
a
little
bit
and
then
the
same
with
workers
comp
just
from
insurance
standpoint
preparing
for
an
increase.
B
B
Those
are
the
two
big
ones
that
come
out
over
there
and
then
there
may
be
times
where
we
have
the
auditors
come
in
and
do
additional
work
if
there's
something
that
needs
to
be
done,
but
that's
usually
on
the
other
piece
that
comes
out
of
there
sometimes
is
with
debt
we
will
have
to
the
financial
advisor
if
it's
not
if,
if
we're
just
using
it
for
consulting
type
services,
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
have
a
few
years
back
was
an
irs
audit
for
bonds.
B
It
ranges
and
it
it
all
depends
again
we're
self-funded.
So
what
we
get
is
allocated
rates
from
anthem,
so
we
we're
our
own
pool
when
it
comes
to
medical.
F
B
B
B
Because
we
do
have
retirees
that
still
may
be
on
insurance,
shrewd
that
whole
fund
up
and
then
we've
just
been
kind
of
seeing
what
we
needed
to
go
forward
to
keep
to
stop
spikes
and
valleys
in
each
department's
budget.
If
they
go
from
a
single
person
this
year
to
a
family
next
year
and
then
the
following
year
back
to
a
single
right.
So
we
did
a
one-time.
True
up.
We'll
probably
probably
do
for
it
again
to
be
honest
with
you
to
just
kind
of
reevaluate
that
and
look.
B
G
B
C
Covered
well,
you
know
what,
since
they're
not
covering,
it
is
a
special
meaning.
Let's
just
not,
let's
put
it
on
one
of
the
other
meetings.
Okay,
that
way
we're
strictly
following
robert's
rules
and-
and
I
won't
have
to
defend
that-
okay
counselor
norris,
I'm.
H
F
So
all
expenses
that
are
coveted
related,
are
they
within
the
individual
departments
or
are
they
somewhere
in
finance
and
reimbursements,
come
into
finance,
or
do
they
go
to
individual
departments?
How
does
that
work.
B
So
with
the
covid
related
stuff,
it's
all
within
each
department,
meaning
if
it
was
a
utility,
it
would
be
with
the
utilities
whether
it
be
electric
water
or
sewer
if
the
mayor's
office,
if
I
wanted
to
buy
masks,
they
would
charge
it
to
theirs.
We
also
have
gone
through
the
budget
of
building
facility
line
which
is
building
stuff
on
the
sanitizers.
Those
types
of
things
cleaning
supplies
would
be
in
there
and
then
any
reimbursement
that
comes
back
would
be
based
on
how
it
was
submitted
and
which
department.