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From YouTube: Groton Conservation Commission 7/22/20
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting - Conservation Commission July 22, 2020. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/meeting/details/1009
D
D
No
one
is
but
I'll
just
say
what
I
usually
say.
So
this
is
the
special
meeting
of
the
Conservation
Commission
on
July
22nd
2020.
My
name
is
Bruce
Aafrin
from
the
office
of
planning
and
development
services.
Where
he
done
is
the
chairman
for
any
attendees
that
to
Julian
would
like
to
speak.
You
can
do
so
under
public
participation
or
public
communications.
You
can
do
so
by
raising
your
hand
and
the
Chairman
will
call
on
you.
D
B
F
D
B
B
E
B
They
did
that,
but
they
didn't
ask
for
anything.
They
just
said
Oh
give
us
an
update
or
presentation
on
open
space
conservation
plan,
so
I
asked
for
an
E.
Were
there
any
specifics
or
details,
and
there
was
like
nothing,
it
was
oh
geez
out
there
and
we're
interested
so
so
I
think
it's
up
to
us
to
decide
what
we
want
to
do
and
now
remember.
The
original
objective
was,
at
the
end,
to
get
their
endorsement
and
support
for
all
the
action
items
at
the
end.
B
B
E
B
F
This
is
Tom
Olson
I,
agree
with
you
and
from
my
observation
during
when
you
think
we're
tasked
the.
It
was
very
clear
from
that
that
we
had
just
posted
the
plant
I
like
the
public
comment,
and
they
were
just
responding
with
a
number
of
other
conservation
items
that
were
on
the
agenda
on
their
on
their
college
Enda.
It
would,
it
just
seemed
natural
for
them,
because
they
were
asking
so
many
questions
in
regard.
They
had
the
watcher's
property
on
the
agenda.
F
A
lot
of
this
stuff
was
there
that
they
would
just
like
an
update
from
us
in
regard
to
what
we're
doing
this
conservation
plan,
because
there's
now
a
public
off
of
public
comment,
but
I
think
we
just
should
do
Nessa
come
when
I
put
the
my
draft
of
this
together.
I
said
it's
come
I
started
with
the
timeline
in
there
to
basically
put
perspective
as
far
as
on
where
we
are
as
a
as
a
front
as
the
first
primary
thing
to
get
across
to
them.
B
But
let's
let's
go
through.
It
is
really
like
three
pages.
The
rest
is
is
I,
think
boilerplate
types
of
stuff.
So
obviously
the
cover
page,
the
agenda
of
the
presentation,
is
the
timeline
for
the
plan.
Alright,
this
then
again
allows
us
to
go
back
and
say
we
are
gonna,
come
back
to
you,
which
things
are
not
yet
in
this
in
the
draft
they
saw
because
we
haven't
come
out
with
draft
two
yet
and
now
this
is
the
boilerplate.
B
The
objectives
of
the
plan
coming
right
out
of
the
plan,
the
priorities
right
out
of
the
plan,
the
details
right
out
of
the
plan.
Key
recommendations
should
be
a
summary
of
what's
in
the
plan
and
then
additional
input
that
we
received
from
the
I
guess
the
other
folks
when
we
published
it.
So
this
will
get
changed
based
upon.
What's
coming
up
all
right,
so
here's
the
timeline
that
we
had
so
I
assume
y'all
had
looked
at
this,
so
the
first
two
bullets.
B
First,
three
bullets
are
historic
or
historical
and
that's
what
we
did
and
we
did
get
feedback
in
July
and
I,
guess
that
we
could
talk
about
order
and
there's
a
page
on
that
later
on
and
what
was
the
feedback
phase
to
review?
Is
late
July
we're
now
this
one
I,
given
our
current
schedule,
we
have
today
and
I.
Think
August
3rd
is
our
next
meeting
to
complete
it
so
I'm,
I'm,
gonna,
say
early
July
really
honor.
B
Yes,
early
August,
so
we're
you
know,
moved
out
a
little
bit
because
our
meeting
is
August
3rd
and
you
know
the
objective
should
be
between
today
and
again.
August
3rd,
we
go
that's
it.
You
know
we're
ready
to
publish
again
to
the
basically
in
town
staff
and
I've
worked
with
Bruce
for
a
cover
letter
to
go
on
that
which
we
will
put
in
the
you
know.
Are
we
gonna
put
that
we
have
to
put
that
in
the
August
3
agenda
or
just
if.
D
D
B
Right
put
it
in
the
August
3
agenda
and,
and
so
you'll
get
a
chance
to
look
at
that.
It's
pretty
it's
based
upon
the
first
letter,
but
it
just
goes
to
different
folks
and
but
I
I
recall.
We
didn't
have
the
feet.
I
didn't
have
a
feedback
timing
in
there
Bruce.
So
we
need
to
add
that
to
that
letter,
all
right
then
phase
3.
B
A
B
B
A
You
start
presenting
the
plan
and
then
after
that,
then
you
start
getting
a
bunch
of
comments
like
if
they're
really
interested.
They
should
be
looking
at
it
in
the
face
to
review,
because
we've
had
a
phase
one
review,
you
know
it's
all
been
drafted,
it's
all
public
Phase
two
should
be
they
all
look
at
it.
In
my
face
three,
we
should
sort
of
be
in
the
final
presentation.
Phase
am
I
missing
something.
A
B
Why
I'm
asking?
Perhaps
then
we
should
for
the
face
to
review
carbon
copy,
the
Town
Manager,
the
Town
Council
in
the
RT
Anna
with
that
then
on
the
cover
letter,
and
then
they
can
go.
Look
it
up
and
review
it
to
your
point
and
then,
when
we
do
a
presentation,
we
would
expect
to
have
them
direct
us
to
certain
sections
or
have
some
questions
that
we
have
because.
A
What's
gonna
happen
is
we're
spending
all
this
energy,
getting
it
to
a
final
to
finality
for
presentation,
and
then
you
have
people
starting
to
look
at
it
for
the
first
time.
You
know,
by
the
time
we
were
doing
phase
your
third
phase,
which
is
presentations.
We've
had
initial
drafts
phase
one
review
base
to
review.
Like
my
phase
three,
it's
like
okay,
this
is
it.
This
is
done.
We're
really
explaining
it.
B
Grow
to
the
point
our
job
is
to
provide
our
advice
to
them
know
you
know
so
I
think
that
that's
okay
says:
hey
here's
our
view.
If
then
they
have,
you
know
questions
or
issues.
You
know
to
direct
us
to
go
change
it
I'm!
Okay,
with
that
too,
so
I,
don't
I.
You
know
I,
think
that's
you
know,
but
how
we
do.
That
is
what
I'm
trying
to
get
to
so
I
think
what
what
we
see
is
is
I
think
what
I
heard
was
Cece.
A
And
I
may
be
looping
in
the
RTM
and
the
Town
Council
like
at
an
earlier
phase,
or
even
maybe,
whatever
presentation
you
make
to
the
Town
Council
this
next
week.
Maybe
that's
recorded
and
replayed
for
the
RTM
or
something
so
that
so
that
they
don't
like
being
brought
in
at
the
very
last
minute
like
they
were.
The
plastic
was
all
news
to
them,
because
none
of
them
are
actually
paying
attention
to
what's
going
on
Town
Meeting,
so
so
I'm
just
saying
like.
Maybe
you
loop
them
in
sooner,
you
know,
I,
don't
know.
A
B
G
A
A
I'm
wondering
Ellaria
in
the
bullet
in
the
face
to
review.
Maybe
you
also,
underneath
there
ask
or
just
change
the
order
there,
that
we
would
like
feedback
move
up
the
CC
to
the
town
manager.
Town
council
put
the
feedback
after
like
let
them
give
us
their
feedback
and
then
take
the
phase.
Three
presentations.
Take
the
comments
out
cuz
that
should
come
before
the
phase
three
is
like
look.
This
is
this:
is
the
plan
I
guess
also.
C
G
G
B
I
I
guess
my
view
is
that
we
can
certainly
make
a
specific
request
to
the
town
staff
to
provide
feedback
because
it
relates
to
them
and
there's
actions
they're
responsible
for
is
that
counsel
directs
us,
not
us
directing
to
counsel
so
I
think
what
you
just
said,
gray
of
at
the
meeting
say:
hey
it's
out
there.
If
you
want
to
give
us
any
any
comment,
great
we're
gonna
come
back.
You
know
in
Phase
three,
you
know
after
the
town
staff
feedback-
and
you
know
you
know-
have
that
as
our
final
round
so
I.
B
A
C
G
B
Right
phase:
two:
yes
phase:
two
is
the
end
of
the
comment
period
per
se,
but
the
next
part
is
this:
is
our
finished
product
to
the
top
meal
to
the
Town
Council
RTM?
They
can
always
comment
again
now.
You
know
that
they're
in
town
council,
but
yes,
this
this,
you
know
this
is
where
we
did
it
for
this
edition.
Remember
we
got
another
edition
coming
up
and
we'll
talk
to
that
in
a
bit.
C
F
Yeah
Tom
Olsen
we
work
for
this,
for
the
town
manager
directly
and
and
but
we're
not
at
our
plan.
Here
is
not
going
to
be
going
to
them
for
approval.
We're
not
we're
not
asking
them
to
approve
the
plan,
we're
just
asking
them
to
support
the
plan
through
actions
that
are
included,
such
as
a
good
at
the
best
example,
obviously
being
the
proposed
ordinance
that
will
be
coming
down.
The
pike
here
will
be
one
a
good
example,
so
I'd
say
rather
than
incorporate
comments
in
here.
F
E
E
A
F
First
time,
Olson,
if
we're
looking
at
reviews
and
we're
asking
them
to
go
off
and
review
the
town
manager,
Town
Council
and
our
team
in
parallel
with
the
town
staff
and
get
feedback
and
set
a
date
certain
that
we
want
their
comp,
their
written
comments
or
whatever
comments,
email
comments
or
whatever
from
individual
counselors
I.
Think
we
want
to
have
that
all
part
of
phase
two
and
I
would
go
along
with
shifting
it.
F
C
G
C
H
H
A
C
A
A
A
C
A
A
B
B
Now
the
things
that
are
not
well
okay,
now
the
things
that
would
be
filed
not
remember
what
we
did,
your
follow-on
to
faith,
that
follow-on
to
the
October
version,
the
inventory
validation
so
Michelle
when
we
have
the
appendix
at
the
back.
That
has
all
the
lists
of
town
properties
and
we
were
going
to
say
we're
going
to
validate
that.
In
fact,
we
have
legal
protection.
We
weren't
going
to
have
that
by
this
for
this
edition.
So
that's
why
it's
listed
as
a
follow
on
right,
which
I
guess
is
bullet
too.
B
E
B
F
F
B
Don't
know
they
weren't,
like
I,
said
they
didn't
give
any
specific
objective
or
reason
it's
like.
Oh,
we
want
to
know
what
you're
doing
I
guess,
okay,
but
that's
why
this
was
again
billed
as
a
project
status.
Yeah
I,
seem
to
say
get
the
comments
after
you
do
the
net
after
the
next
edition
right.
Okay,
so
we
didn't
I
didn't
want
to
do
it
now.
F
I
think
there's
a
ton
I
think
there's
some
advantage
to
doing
this.
Now
we
wanted
to
get
comments.
Now,
we're
gonna,
go.
Here's
we're
gonna,
tell
you,
we
watch
your
comments
on
the
28th.
Here's
the
we're
gonna
extend
you
a
thing
in
1st
of
August
or
the
4th
of
August
and
least
will
have
gotten
their
attention,
as
we
may
get
some
comments
from
individual
tile,
counselors
or
RTM
members
and.
A
Also,
just
you
know
so
that
that
you
know
people
need
time
to
process
and
to
realize
and
know
what's
going
on
so
rather
than
do
the
oh
here's,
our
plan,
you
know
I
think
it's
much
better
to
have
it
out
there,
and
so,
if
nothing
else,
you're
saying
yeah.
Well,
it's
been
out
there.
Why
are
you?
Why
do
you
say
now
that
you
didn't
like
something?
It's
been
what's
been
out
there
for
months
and
we
meetings
about
it.
You
know,
so
nobody
can
say
that
they
weren't
informed.
B
B
B
G
C
G
A
Visually,
it's
really
important
to
have
I
would
in
here
maybe
insert
the
map
of
Groton
just
showing
the
green
belts,
because
that's
so
central
to
the
whole
things
there's
just
people
here
once
again:
glanced
at
the
map
seed,
like
that
we
have
beautiful
maps
that
have
the
open
space
and
the
green
belts
just
for
like
a
assisting
all
presentations
need
pictures
I'm,
a
great
believer
in
that,
and
it
helps
visualizing
makes
it
more
interesting
as
a
presentation.
If
there's
pictures.
G
A
E
C
A
B
E
A
Don't
know
if
you
need
a
picture
for
everything
because
that'll
be
the
actual
presentation
in
the
end,
but
just
just
a
few
pictures
to
smooth
the
whole
delivery.
You
know
just
a
few,
so
I
don't
want
to
get
a
picture
complete
the
green
ballots,
a
picture,
significant
picture,
nothing!
That's
gonna,
be
maybe
too
many
pictures
for
Larry,
but
some
some
intermediate.
C
B
D
F
A
B
C
B
B
E
B
C
H
E
C
B
A
A
A
C
E
F
Logic
behind
why
I
recommended
this
was
at
least
we
could
go
into
just
kind
of
flash
it
up
there
to
say
here's
the
detail
level
on
what
to
be
expecting
in
the
plan.
So,
in
regard
to
our
introductions
in
firms,
what
we
have
our
visions
are:
the
different
soulful
space
considerations,
our
valuations
and
rec
and
priorities,
and
just
to
kind
of
walk
through.
What's
in
the
plan,
you
may
want
to
go
down
to
maybe
just
a
higher
level
I.
That
was
my
own.
E
F
B
Well,
I
I
think
part
of
it
was,
and
this
was
the
intent
of
having
the
whole
Commissioner.
Somebody
wanted
to
go.
What's
behind
intelligent,
sustainable
development,
all
right,
then
you
know
or
open,
and
then
you
know
direct
it
to
one
of
us
to
talk
about
hey
here
here
is
what
was
in
here
is
what
was
developed
at
the
high
level.
It
doesn't
you
know
to
me,
it
doesn't
provide
any
any
value
and
I
would
take
it
all
out
versus
it's.
It's
the
it's
these
two
pages.
So
there's
not
a
lot.
G
Intention
is,
but
I
think
you
know
up
to
date.
Presentation
where
we
are.
This
gets
a
little
long
and
you
have
to
sit
down.
We
really
appreciate
this
thing.
This
list.
You
have
to
have
an
opportunity
to
really
look
at
what
is
there
and
we're
done?
Michelle
said
we
don't
want
them
to
isolate
just
on
one
little
thing
and
then
start
asking
questions
and
divert
the
whole
presentation.
B
E
B
B
C
B
B
C
B
C
E
C
F
Yes,
but
well,
these
are
the
ones
that
that
I
saw
when
I
drafted.
This
together
was
that
we
are
targeted
and
require
town
council
action,
most
of
the
other
stuffs
directed
at
like
our
Commission
or
the
Inland
Wetlands,
or
you
know
something
like
that,
but
this
these
are
the
ones
that
require
higher
level
approval
and
are
really
the
meat
of
stuff
relative
to
money.
F
B
C
B
C
B
B
I'm
thinking
that
out
of
the
are
there
any
of
the
action
items
in
Section,
seven,
that
someone
thinks
is
more
important
or
should
be
added
to
this
list.
At
this
round,
I
mean
we're.
Gonna
have
all
the
actions
out
there
and
part
of
the
the
voiceover
on
this
thing
is
that
there's
43
actions
out
there?
You
know
here's
the
here's,
some
examples
that
we
think
are
the
critical
ones,
but
we
really
are
going
to
come
back
and
ask
for
your
support
and
review
of
all
of
the
43
action
items.
Something
like
that.
Yeah.
F
F
C
C
B
F
It
subsequently,
just
the
text
team
has
taken
these
on
board
and
we've
incorporated
we've
actually
done
more
changes
than
what
we
had
at
on
the
in
our
last
Commission
meeting.
We've
actually
changed
a
couple
in
couple
of
areas
like
in
climate
change,
we've
expanded
on
that
to
recognize
comments
from
the
task
force,
we've
taken
and
try
to
incorporate
more
so
just
rather
than
dismissing,
and
every
thing
is
gonna
that
they've
identified
has
been
addressed,
and
there
has
been
some
change
in
the
text
for
from
all
the
comments
that
we've
received.
A
C
B
All
right,
let
me
go
back
I
just
cut
and
pasted
it
over
there.
So
let
me
go
back
to
the
PowerPoint
all
right
so,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
that
should
be
above
this,
that
we
had
the
priorities,
the
input
from
the
public
and
this
one
we
said
on
the
first
chart,
so
I
would
suggest.
If
we
took
that
out,
then
this
needs
to
get
cleaned
up
but
crap,
but
you
know
what
I
mean
I'll
clean
this
up,
so
this
was
this.
Is
this
came
out
of
that?
What
you
just
saw
all
right.
F
C
B
So
the
review
in
the
time
when
I
was
done,
the
objectives
of
the
plan,
the
priorities
sprinkle
in
the
pictures
and
make
the
thing
flow
a
little
better,
the
continuation
to
priorities,
that's
all
above
the
inputs
and
comments
we
received
and
then
the
key
recommendations
for
the
council.
And
you
know,
since
we
said
we
on
the
very
first
chart,
we're
looking
for
more
additional
input.
And
then
we
have
the
backup
which
has
the
details
of
the
table.
B
B
A
A
Said
yeah
right
into
there
right
up
there,
like
I,
have
a
send
you
a
picture
of
some
people
hiking
in
the
Sheep
Meadow,
so
maybe
just
pop
in
a
picture
just
to
show
like
this
is
what
we're
talking
about
we're
talking
about
the
people
in
the
community,
enjoying
the
resource
of
the
open
space.
So
just
a
picture,
you
don't
just
say
anything
about
the
picture.
Just
it's
just
there.
It's
a
pause,
okay,
open
space.
What
are
we
talking
about?
Oh
there's,
a
picture
open
space
people
hiking
in
the
open
space.
You
know
that's.
B
A
Title
and
maximize
that
picture
get
rid
of
the
box.
The
title
box
blow
up
the
picture
as
big
as
it
gets
and
then
look,
oh
yeah.
That's
what
you're
talking
about
open
space
and
then
go
to
the
next
thing,
which
is
the
agenda
and
then
maybe
go
ahead
and
do
the
agenda
and
then
after
review
and
timeline,
then
after
that
pop
in
a
picture
after.
A
C
B
D
B
E
E
H
A
C
B
A
C
B
B
B
B
F
H
B
G
G
G
E
C
H
H
A
C
H
H
H
Right
then,
you're
changing
the
the
then
what
happens
so,
at
least
in
the
original
one.
If
you
cut
out
the
20
for
the
special
multiplier,
the
economic
that
the
model
went
up
like
257
or
something
so
I
think
the
text
team.
What
we
kind
of
talked
about
was
that
we
looked
through
all
the
questions
and
got
those
finalized,
but
the
mechanics
of
actually
scoring.
B
I
and
I
normalized,
it
I,
went
through
it
and
I
normalized
200,
so
that
you
can
compare
multiple
properties
to
your
point,
because
if
you
take
the
total
points,
let's
say
you
have
nothing
there
and
then
you
normalize,
you
know
whether
the
80
or
400.
This
would
be
whatever
the
number
comes
out
to
be
right.
B
No,
it
did
it
got
it.
I
didn't
take
the
factor
out.
It
didn't
get
any
points,
so
you
got
zero
points,
so
it
doesn't
matter
what
the
weight
is.
If
it
got
zero
points,
all
right,
so
I
just
did
that
as
an
example.
So
you
know,
if
you
put
four
in
here
all
right,
then
you
have
84.
But
in
order
to
compare
to
to
you
know
two
different
properties.
B
You'd
want
to
normalize
this
to
a
hundred
percent
of
all
the
points
that
you
could
have
possibly
gotten,
which
might
be
you
know,
gee
I
got
420
out
of
500
right.
What's
that?
Oh
gee,
that's
95
percent!
You
know
whatever
whatever
that
comes
out
to
be
allows
you
for
comparison
from
one
to
the
other,
but
the
matrix
here
works
as
it
stands
to
get
this
raw
score
and
you
just
want
a
normal.
B
You
know
that
that's
to
make
people
understand
that
you
go
that's
42
out
of
100
I'm.
Sorry
out
of
500
I,
don't
know
it's
91,
91
percent,
where
the
heck
that
is
so
I
think
that
that
can
that
can
be
done.
I
think
I
agree
with
your
point.
It
says
if
we
have
this
done
and
the
waiting
done,
you
know
how
one
uses
it
in
a
consistent
way
is
question
number
two,
but
question
number
one
is
gray
mate.
B
This
was
the
original
set
because
we
had
discuss
that
a
number
of
meetings
ago,
Bray
came
up
with
different,
wait
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
other
comments
on
that
waiting.
If
we
don't
do
this
a
step
at
a
time,
we're
gonna
get
all
tied
up
in
our
shirts.
Yes,
I
think
there
was
a
tie
between
Michelle
and
Thomas.
C
F
C
E
E
B
G
Comment
some
questions
actually
about
the
text
portion
of
it
go
ahead.
The
first
one
complete
and
expand
proposed
green
breaks.
The
third
one
down
is
this
first
year
to
a
designated
state
green.
My
way,
I
would
suggest
that
that
Tiffany
is
a
good
word
for
get
rid
of
state
green
way.
Since
we
don't
have
any
in
the
town
you
could
put
in
National
Forest.
Is
it
that
or
is
it
near
national
park
near
Rushmore?
You
know,
there's
a
whole
variety
I'm
trying
to
think
of
what
we
actually
have
it's
within
the
town.
Now,
all.
F
Reason
way
this
is
written.
The
way
it
is
is
that
we
have
a
a
requirement
from
the
POC
D
to
support
conductivity,
to
hook
up
to
the
Greenway
system,
the
Connecticut
State
Greenway
system.
There
is
greenways
in
New
London
and
there's
greenways
the
state
greenways
in
New
London
a
state
greenways
in
Ledyard
okay.
So
we
provide
the
connection
between
those
two
and
that's
why
this
that's?
Why
the
parcel
that
supports
that
connectivity
would
get
a
good
score
here,
and
it's
something
that
we're
we
have
recommendations
in
here.
F
The
support
working
with
us
with
the
cog
there's,
a
recommendation
in
section
7.
So
have
us
support
getting
Greenway
connectivity,
and
so
that's
why
this
is
specifically
says:
state
greenways,
because
we
want
to
have
a
prioritization
and
weighting
towards
any
efforts
to
make
that
happen,
and
so
also
the
town
put
things
in
their
recommendation
as
that
in
February
of
last
year.
F
F
I'm
matt
stuff,
there
are
no
green
lanes
in
Stonington
and
I
haven't
found
anything
in
Stonington
where
we
have
a
connection
towards
anything
right
now.
You
know,
I
have
not
be
brutally
honest
with
you.
I
have
not
gone
through
the
POC
d4
Stonington
to
see
if
they
have
anything
in
there.
I
can
do
some
research
on
that,
though,
for.
G
Mentioning
it
is
that
years
going
by
the
expiration,
Brydon
Conservation
Commission,
we
formed
a
poor
town
project
to
work
on
the
mystic,
which
was
in
Stonington
brought
and
Ledyard
in
particular,
nobody
really
represented
nor
Stonington,
but
we
over
the
years
to
have
always
worked
well,
actually
more
so
with
Stonington
Conservation
Commission,
then
we
have
with
New
London.
So
it's
interesting
that
we're
we're
starting
to
do
things
some
things
with
New
London.
That's
that's
all
the
good,
but
I
don't
want
to
leave
out
Stonington
encased
because
they're
there,
our
sister
town,
so.
F
Only
reason
I
hit
I
hit
began,
as
I
had
mentioned,
was
that
the
agreement
there's
only
two
greenways
in
the
but
our
town,
okay
as
the
but
now
I'm,
not
aware
of
still
meet
and
I'm
trying
to
look
them
up
if
they
have
anything,
for
they
have
any
issues
and
that
they're
applying
for
Greenway
status
or
any
kind
of
things
like
that.
But
that
I'm
not
aware
of
it.
F
B
G
G
C
G
G
F
And
the
state
had
their
own
natural
diversity
that
the
state
connected
to
the
natural
diversity
database
area,
that's
by
the
state
of
Connecticut
nature's
network,
is
worked
with
the
the
Nature
Conservancy
and
it's
now
being
recognized
as
as
a
much
more
comprehensive
database
and
it's
available.
They
can
overlay
each
other
on
to
get
the
best
of
both.
So
that's
a
kind
of
referencing
both
because
the
state
is
using
both
of
them
now
right.
F
The
reason
that
was
put
in
there
was
that,
if,
if
you
have
a
lot
of
invasive
species
that
could
be
detrimental
to
the
property,
it
was
a
fire
additional
funding
for
for
remediation,
and
that
should
be
a
negative
towards
why
you'd
want
to
take
on
that
property.
If
you
got
to
do
that,
pretty
really
think
about
it
for
the
both
the
constant
and
do
you
want
to
be
taking
on
that
additional
workload,
eradicating
or
living
with
it?
You
don't
want
that.
F
G
G
There's
somebody
within
our
group
that
if
a
piece
of
property
comes
comes
the
forest
to
say,
could
you
evaluate
this
and
we
can
make
a
decision
whether
going
to
look
forward
to
purchase
or
not
or
acquire
or
not
yeah.
We
have
somebody
who
can
walk
through
and
say.
Oh,
this
is
really
overrun
with
the
face
of
species.
G
A
A
F
To
some
degree,
this
is
what
happened
with
your
watch
rose
property
is
that
Gosa
went
in
as
an
intervener.
They
brought
in
their
specialist
this
guy,
wouldn't
he
Adams
and
he
brought
in
another
guy
and
they
went
off
and
did
it
wrote
a
paper
on
at
that
type
of
stuff?
So,
though,
if
there's,
if
it's,
if
it's
gross
and
obvious
that
you
need
to
get
in
more
technical
expertise
as
part
of
the
evaluation
process,
that's
just
the
nature
of
the
beast
as
far
as
when
you're
going
through
it
and
I.
F
Think
from
our
point
of
view,
this
is
not
going
to
be
a
major
contender.
You
know,
we've
got
you
know,
seven
category,
six
items,
42
items
here,
you
know
any
given
one
is
this:
is
they
it's
a
consideration?
I
think
we
should
be
aware
of
it
to
be
looking
out
for
it,
but
I,
don't
think
it's
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
I'd
replace
it
with
per
snake.
If
we
want
to
keep
saying
equal
numbers
for
each
categorization
could.
A
I
just
add:
if
it's
one
of
them
multiple,
you
know
it
may
be
that
it's
a
negative
in
this
category.
There
may
be
many
negatives
and
other
category.
So
it's
just
it's
just
another
piece
of
information
in
the
pie.
It's
just
it's
a
helpful
point
of
fact.
That
is
either
going
to
work
for
or
against
the
property.
You
know.
Oh.
G
I
agree
with
all
of
you:
I,
just
as
I
was
reading
through
this
thing
over
the
weekend,
and
you
take
it
in
first
glance
and
you
think
okay
I
know
that,
having
been
with
Avalonia
for
many
years,
that
pieces
of
property
to
and
broaden
that
have,
as
we
see
problems
and
we're
using
the
same
expert,
go
City
uses
early
yeah
to
identify
them
and
then
try
to
get
it
under
control.
But
it
very
interesting
that
you
put
in
here
and
I
think
it's
for
a
good
reason
about
the
quality
of
the
environment.
B
Of
course
it
just
occurred
to
me:
yeah,
probably
not
I
was
gonna,
say
I
have
the
criteria
in
the
presentation,
but
less
is
more
so
I'll
take
off
my
own
thought.
Okay,
next
topic,
Oh
ray
I
know
there
was
a
follow-up
on
the
first
draft
of
a
thank
you
letter
to
the
submitters
and
I
understand.
You
submitted
a
proposal
to
Bruce.
D
B
F
E
E
F
E
C
B
F
We're
we're
just
staying
abreast
with
I
I
can
say
that
we
tweaked
on
some
of
the
stuff
on
there
like
a
good
example,
was
laughter.
I
got,
went
through
the
open
space
inventory.
I
noticed
that
the
Mumford
Cove
Association
was
listed.
There
I
went
back
and
updated
that
back
into
the
text
and
that
type
of
stuff,
so
we
we
have
been
monitoring
the
inputs
from
from
the
from
your
team
and
updated
it
in
the
current
version.
F
G
F
All
your
your
comments,
there
are
all
incorporated
and
stuff,
so
I
think
we're,
as
in
sync
other
than
with
the
criteria
right
now.
I've
only
had
one
other
comment
that
came
in
this
morning
from
the
GC
a
they
asked
for
a
recognition
on
the
on
the
on
the
list
of
abbreviations
and
so
I
had
to
incorporate
them
into,
and
so
we
added
them
into
section
six
point:
four.
F
In
regard
to
the
open
space
education
program,
we
put
a
thing:
is
that
gratin
confirmation
advocates
and
I
gave
them
a
reference
85
for
their
website
provides
grassroots
advocacy
for
getting
information
out
to
the
public,
about
conservation,
help
with
space
issues
and
so
I
just
added
that
it's
another
sentence
in
there,
so
that
their
GC
shows
up
clear
so
that
it's
on
the
list
of
acronyms
at
the
very
beginning
that
they
asked
for
so
other
than
that.
What
you
got
here
is
is
pretty
much
the
version
that
we've
got
as
of
today
and
so.
B
G
Sea
level
rise
and
tidal
rise.
There
are
four
of
them,
I
believe
where
they
show
areas
that
will
be
affected
by
20
inches
of
sea-level
rise
or
storm
conditions.
A
little
rise.
We
I
was
looking
at
those
recently
and
it
does
a
really
good
job
for
the
airport.
One
point
brought
one
point
and
so
forth.
No
no
way
and
I
was
thinking
that,
as
we
move
forward
recommending
any
sort
of
lands
that
the
Conservation
Commission
might
suggest
the
set
aside.
G
G
G
That's
going
to
be
undone
dated
by
accepted
screen
hurricane,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
low-lying
areas
on
River,
Road,
north
and
south
of
95
that
are
under
dated
now
on
a
really
good
I
tie
and
in
those
maps
it
does
show
critical
areas
and
the
upper
part
of
the
Mystic
River.
But
it's
really
hard
to
see,
at
least
in
the
copy.
Is
that
out
that
I
see
and
it's
too
bad
it
wasn't.
They
couldn't
have
been
delineated
a
little
bit
better,
because
that
would
be
a.
G
It
was
very
important
reference
maps
that
if
we
look
at
any
properties
along
the
Mystic
River
or
even
the
current
property,
now
the
oral
school,
the
eastern
part
is
coming
down
to
the
rivers.
The
open
space
function
of
it
I,
don't
know
how
I
don't
think
I
don't
know.
If
there's
any
way,
you
can
better
define
those
areas
of
critical
areas.
Okay,
end
up.
A
So
I
know
that
there
are
I'm
not
sure
whether
it's
at
NOAA
but
but
since
the
majority
people
would
be
viewing
this
as
an
online
document.
There
are
very
good
maps
that
exist.
Maybe
we
could
just
plonk
a
link
in
there
very
good
maps
where
basically
they're
just
using
the
topographic
lines
and
filling
it
with
blue,
but
that
way
you
can
zoom
in
a
lot
closer
on
an
area
that
you
want
to
have
detail
on
so
I,
don't
know
our
interview
guys
familiar
with
those
maps,
though.
C
F
Link
is
actually,
this
is
all
in
Appendix
B.
The
link
is
right
there
after
the
title,
okay,
I,
don't
know
it's
a
matter
of
just
going
to
that
to
blow
it
up,
because
you
can
blow
it
up
and
and
take
a
look
at
any
given
black
area
there
at
the
almost
at
the
parcel
level,
it's
all
available
in
that
link
at
the
circuit,
you
can
link
that's
why
it's
there
and
you
know
with
the
fidelity
yeah
on
a
screen
and
stuff.
It
is
it's
available
if
you're
interested
in
that.
F
As
far
as
how
we
discuss
River
Road
within
the
text,
I'll
grant
you
that
I,
we
don't
really
talk
about
it
at
all.
I'll
be
blunt
on
that
and
the
focus
and
whether
you're
in
the
climate
change
in
section
two
point
six
or
in
the
priorities
for
three
point:
two
I
don't
think
we
have
anything
regard
to
River
Road
at
all,
and
if
we're
looking
at
to
say,
we
want
to
change
that
I'm
willing
to
listen.
F
C
F
Okay
and
if
there
isn't
now
I'm
looking
at
in
the
in
sections
three
point,
two,
the
conservation
of
recommendation
is
based
on
a
detail
review
the
coastal
flood
projection
maps
available
from
the
you
kind.
The
castration
writer
was
a
town
ground
selectively.
Purchase
lands
projected
to
be
above
the
100
year,
flood
plain
so
for
the
zones
found
in
Appendix
B
floor
for
the
purpose
of
open
space
acquisition.
Should
we
know
that
significant
areas
of
eastern
point
beach
to
put
a
point
crime,
Airport
buffer
Caldwell
point
in
downtown
mystic-
will
be
in
today
with
water?
F
B
B
All
right
so
folks,
you
know,
from
my
perspective,
you
know
I'm
ready
to
close
it
on
the
text,
with
one
potential
request.
Is
that
to
go
over
as
a
team
at
our
August?
Would
it
what's
the
date
they're
their
third?
The
August
third
is
to
go
over
section,
seven
point
two,
which
is
section
7,
which
is
the
forty
three
objectives
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
I
guess
in
sync
I'm
just
did
one
of
them,
because
that's
really
the
focus
of
our
work
going
forward
so
before
we
publish
it.
B
But
the
next
thing
is
to
spend
some
time
doing
that
and
if
you
would,
you
know,
look
at
that
before
the
meeting
I
mean
you
have
the
whole
thing,
but
focus
on
that
before
the
meeting
and
one
of
the
things
I
was
thinking
of
was
it
has
timing
and
responsibilities
is
really
focus
on
the
responsibilities
that
we
pick
the
right
ones,
and
you
know
what
do
we
want
to
sign
up
for
and
what
we
don't?
We
might
consider
doing
prioritizations
or
something
I,
don't
know,
but
I
guess
the
long
term
short
term.
C
G
B
Yeah,
let
me
comment
on
that
and
Boots
control
is
so
I
was
content
with
as
a
result
of
the
first
review.
I
was
contact
to
say:
can
we
get
a
copy
of
the
proposed
ordinance
from
the
parks
and
recs
department?
They
want
to
provide
such
an
ordinance.
So
the
answer
I
guess,
is
to
party
answers.
They
don't
have
one
today,
but
they
support
having
one
and
took
our
input.
That
was,
you
know
that
that
was
part
of
the
document.
B
D
B
Well,
I
mean
parks
and
recs
are
the
ones
that
contacted
me
stating
there
is
no
ordinance,
they
would
like
one
I
and
want
to
propose
one.
So
that's
one
where
we
would
we're
supporting
them
and
then
they're
supporting
us.
So,
for
example,
when
we
get
to
the
action
items
of
their
ordinance,
is
that
really
Parks
and
Rec
should
be
sponsoring
that,
with
our
support,
I
mean
that's
the
kind
of
stuff
I
want
to
talk
about
so
I
think
Ray,
it's
a
it's.
G
It's
your
department
that
if
the
town
purchases,
a
piece
of
land
for
open
space
and
I'm
thinking
the
most
recent
one
is
the
on
Thomas
Road,
the
voicer
tree
farm
that
was
done
by
the
planning
department.
Director
Mike
ran
with
the
whole
thing,
and
your
department
gathered
the
information
and
so
forth.
So
if
I
believe
that,
if
there
is
a
town
does
acquire
and
what's
especially
if
there's
a
fundraiser
and
so
forth,
all
of
a
lot
of
that
it
lands
in
the
planning
department
and
rather
than
Public,
Works
or
parks
and
rank
or
anybody
else.
B
Well,
but
let
me
let
me
read
to
you
what
Mark
Berry
said:
I
would
be
interested
in
seeing
the
details
of
that
ordinance.
The
proposed
ordinance
our
department,
meeting
parks
and
rests
is
going
through
the
process
of
agency
accreditation
and
one
of
the
standards
we
need
to
meet
is
encroachment
Protection
guidelines.
Would
you
please
send
me
a
draft
of
the
ordinance,
so
I
I
think
it's
it's
probably
both,
but
I
think
it
looks
like
is
that
the
leadership
might
be
from
parks
and
recs
and
then
maybe
flip
to
planning
right
I
mean.
B
G
C
G
E
C
B
All
right,
it's
unanimous
yeah,
all
right
good!
We
made
some
some
great
progress.
I
think
we
wrap
it
up
next
week,
I'm
not
next
week,
August
3rd
I,
guess
that's!
It
has
been
10.
That
would
be
great
and
we
will
see
you
all
next
week
at
the
council
meeting
Kristin
you
volunteered
to
work
with
me
right
now
to
finalize
this
up
and
get
get
it
to
get
it
out
all
right.
All
right.