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From YouTube: Groton Conservation Commission 11/2/20
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Conservation Commission - November 2, 2020. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/meeting/details/685
C
Except
we
got
no
audio
for
michelle
all
right
still
in
hawaii
she's
in
hawaii.
We're
intercontinental
tonight
yes
across.
Well,
I
guess
hawaii's
part
of
america
so
that
doesn't
all
right.
Let's,
let's
start
the
show
bruce.
A
Okay,
so
I'm
bruce
lofgren
from
the
office
of
planning
and
development
services
for
the
town
of
rotten,
and
this
is
the
november
2nd,
regular
conservation
commission
meeting
the
host
is
larry
dunn.
A
If
are
there
any
participants
that
would
like
to
speak
during
public
comments?
Just
raise
your
hand
virtually
on
the
zoom
application
and
the
chairman
will
on
you
individually
to
to
present
other
than
that.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
larry.
To
start
with
me,.
C
All
right:
well,
let's
do
the
roll
call
first,
so
larry
done
chair.
C
Well,
welcome
michelle,
thank
you
so
this
this
is,
we
have
hawaii,
we
have.
We
have
mexico
and
there's
all
kinds
of
places
in
between
and
also
karen
scopino
gary.
Would
you.
F
G
A
Okay,
so
so
karen
just
procedurally
so
you
you
can
engage
in
discussions
and
everything,
but
your
role
will
count
tonight
until
you're
actually
supported.
C
All
right,
so
that's
the
way
we'll
work
it
we
did
have.
I
I
thought
I
saw
oh
you
put
eugene
in
the
in
the.
A
C
Mix,
okay,
all
right,
so
that
is
the
role
and
we'll
we've
got
a
lot
to
do.
The
first
one
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
There
was
two
from
september
24th
on
october
5th,
so
I'll
open
up.
Are
there
any
comments
or
corrections
on
those
two
minutes
of
meeting.
D
I
C
Well,
the
vote
was
4-0,
but
your
name
is
there.
So.
C
All
right
so,
could
you
amend
that
tom
to
to
wizard
with
him.
C
All
right
so
we're
going
to
have
to
specifically
ask
for
for
any
votes,
etc.
So,
yes,
that's
a
a
five
to
zero
one.
Two:
three:
four:
five:
six
to
zero!
Sorry
vote
on
that
all
right,
moving
right
along
public
communications.
C
Well,
we
only
I
shouldn't
say
only
so
eugenia
did
you
have
any
comments
you'd
like
to
make.
F
Yes,
I
do,
can
you
all
hear
me?
Yes,.
B
F
Oh
great,
so
wonderful
when
everything
works
so
hi
everybody.
F
I
just
wanted
to
bring
you
up
to
date
on
a
few
things
that
we've
been
working
on
over
at
gca,
that
that
we
believe
that
you're,
probably
interested
in
and
I'll
start
with
the
the
great
news,
which
is
that
the
kolnasky,
the
king
kolnasky
trails
committee,
project
that
we're
doing
is
going
really
really
well.
We've
had
two
meetings
now
the
first
meeting
larry
I
recorded.
So
I
can
provide
you
with
that
recording,
although
I'm
not
sure
that
there's
anything
particularly
juicy
there.
F
Our
second
meeting
was
essentially
a
hike
of
the
property
with
the
people
who
have
committed
to
being
actually
on
the
trail
design
if
they
wanted
to
be
part
of
the
trail
design,
group
and-
and
so
we
were
out
there
yesterday
and
for
a
couple
of
hours,
exploring
different
portions
of
the
property
and
there's
just
so
much
excitement.
There's
great
collaboration
going
on
with
the
city
of
groton
they're,
really
jill
rusk
is
involved
in
this
and
she's,
seeing
all
kinds
of
ways
that
that
we
can
collaborate.
F
The
town
and
the
city
can
collaborate
on
this
project.
So
that
is,
that
is
going
really
well,
and
we
got
a
number
of
pictures
again
thinking
about
your
your
project
to
create
videos,
and
you
know,
outreach
to
the
to
the
community,
so
we're
working
on
that.
F
D
F
Yes,
on
a
zoo-
yes,
that's
that's
exactly
right
and
I
was
at
their
meeting
on
the
29th,
and
I
was
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
they're
they're
they've
narrowed
down
what
they
think
the
town
needs
are
and
that's
going
to
include
long
story
short,
two
rectangular
fields
on
the
high
school
grounds
that
would
be
in
an
area
that
is
forested
right
now.
F
Okay,
so
that's
going
to
mean
a
lot
of
trees
are
going
to
be
cut
down
and
we're
hoping
that
the
conservation
commission
in
your
in
your
role
as
you
know,
tree
warden
or
not
tree
warden.
What
are
you?
What
are
you
called
again
tree
advisory
committee.
C
J
F
Tree
advisory
board
tree
advisory
board
that,
at
the
very
least
this
group
will,
the
town
council
will
be
will
be
reminded.
You
will
be
reminding
the
town
council
of
their
commitment
to
replace
all
of
those
trees
should
they,
the
town
council,
decide
that
they're
going
to
go
forward
with
with
this
plan
that
they
have.
So
that's
just
a
heads
up
on
that
and
then
another
heads
up
we've
been
in
touch
with
the
the
environment
and
human
health
inc
people
patricia
taylor
over
there
because
they're
you.
F
If
you
had
been
at
that
meeting
on
the
29th,
they
are
singing
the
praises
of
these
synthetic
turf
fields
and
that
the
coaches
in
particular
would
love
to
have
all
of
the
the
fields
convert
over
to
this
to
the
synthetic
stuff
and
there's
some
there.
Definitely
some
environment
and
health
issues
involved
with
that,
and
I
thought
I
would
if
you're
interested,
I
would
send
some
of
those
the
documents
that
I've
gotten
from
from
patricia
taylor
over
there.
C
You
all
right,
thank
you.
I'd
ask
a
couple
of
things.
One
is
that
your
your
pictures
and
video,
if
you
could
send
to
becky
carlson,
because
that
she'll
she'll
be
collecting
those
for
for
that
little
project.
We
talked
about
to
record
community
involvement
for
st
trails
stewardship,
so
that
would
be
great.
The
second
thing
is
yeah.
C
If
you
would
forward-
and
I
whole
thing
is
artificial
versus
natural
turf-
I
mean-
I
guess,
there's
environmental
issues,
but
there's
also,
I
guess
health
and
or
safety
from
the
coaches
point
of
view
in
terms
of
their
kids.
But
but
I
think
you
know
that
that
we
should
look
at
the
information
available
on
that.
So,
yes,
if
you
would
forward
that
that'd
be
great
as
well.
F
Yeah
what
we
it
was
interesting
that
we
found
out
that
actually,
the
town
staff
made
sure
that
they
are
not
using
this
rubber
crumb
rubber,
that
they
call
it,
which
is
the
spor
the
source
of
a
lot
of
the
problems
with
the
these
kinds
of
turf,
artificial
turf
fields,
and
so
they
they've
done
an
excellent
job.
With
that.
There
still
are
some
remaining
concerns,
and
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
town
is
aware
of
those
I
just.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that.
C
C
Okay,
yeah,
if
you
would
do
that
all
right
thanks
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much,
always
always
good
information.
Genia
you're
welcome
all
right
into
our
schedule.
First
order
of
business
and
I'm
going
to
be
clicking
along
guys
because
we
have
lots
to
cover
today
the
2021
meeting
scheduled.
So
let
me
turn
it
back
to
bruce
was
that
in
the
agenda?
C
Yes,
it
is
so
you
want
to
bring
it
up
or
I'll
bring
it
up.
A
A
So
yeah
every
year,
usually
in
december,
sometimes
november,
we
approve
the
following
year's
meeting
schedule.
This
is
no
different
other
than
most
of
these
meetings
are
most
likely
going
to
be
held
on
zoo.
It's
it's
the
same
schedule,
5
p.m.
First,
monday
of
every
month,
with
the
exception
of
a
few
being
moved
due
to
labor
day
and
fourth
of
july
or
independence
day
observed,
so
anyone
has
any
issues
with
any
of
the
dates
we
change
them
times
or
anything.
A
If
not
I'd,
like
the
chairman,
to
call
for
a
vote
to
accept.
J
C
Any
other
I
want
to
keep
it
on.
You
know
the
mondays
all
right,
so
the
only
option
would
be
to
move
it
one
week,
but
you
know
now
that
we
have
an
additional
member,
I'm
assuming
that
betsy
will
be
available
prior
to
the
next
meeting.
Karen
that
I'd
like
to
just
stick
to
the
schedule,
as
is
christian,
is
that.
C
Yep
all
right
call
for
a
motion
to
accept
the
2021
regular
meeting
schedule.
C
Michelle
second
in
favor,
hi,
hi.
Okay,
that's
unanimous
all
right
next
item
of
business:
okay:
this
is
the
biggie,
so
open
the
open
place
that
open
space
plan
and
what
I
first
want
to
do
is
kind
of
give
a
quick
summary
of
where
we're
at
so
we've
gone
through
and
various
people
have
participated
with
a
variety
of
reviews
with
those
folks
that
have
provided
input.
C
So
I
remember
exactly
when
it
happened.
We
had
the
housing
authority,
we
had
the
zoning
commission
and
we
had
the
you
know
the
development
and
planning
staff
of
which
bruce
is
a
is
a
member
with
which
was
most
of
the
comments.
We've
had
comments
earlier
from
gca
and
other
conservation
groups,
but
on
this
last
round
we
had
about
150
comments
and
we
addressed
those
in
the.
C
I
think
all
the
ones
are
updated
by
tom
and
the
agenda
has
all
the
comments
prior
to
the
final
meeting
with
the
planning
staff.
So
I
was
gonna
focus
on
that
because
that's
the
new
or
incremental
things
we
talked
about
so
the
the
staff
provided
127
comments.
I
thought
I
would
mention
that,
and
I
think
that
I
thank
bruce
and
the
staff
for
their
diligence
in
looking
through
the
details,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
corrections
and
basically
the
text
team
did,
as
they
usually
have
done.
C
Yeoman's
work
and
resolved
about
115
of
those
which
were
incorporated
in
the
document
that
left
about
14.
two
were
data
which
I
kind
of
fixed
afterwards,
which
left
us
with
about
10..
So
so
at
that
point
and
then
let
me
re-change
my
share.
C
Here
we
go
so
ann
and
I
met
with
the
town
staff
and
went
through
all
the
remaining
questions
and
this
version
that
I've
got
up
on
the
screen.
Has
you
know
how
we
address
those
10
or
so
and
and
if
you
could
you
know
I
can
I
can
steer
if
you
want
to
quickly
sure.
D
C
D
Just
interrupt
one
question:
I
just
want
to
understand
that
the
version
that's
on
the
screen
right
now
is
different
than
what's
in
the
in
the
packet
that
was
posted,
correct.
I
C
I
C
I
So
we
met
with
the
with
john
rainer
and
deb
jones
and
bruce
on
last
wednesday,
and
I
believe
the
packet
had
already
gone
out.
So
we
just
reviewed
several
of
the
remaining
comments,
even
some
that
were
addressed
by
tom
and
unfortunately,
I
wasn't
part
of
helping
to
do
those
to
contribute
to
the
comments.
I
So
it
was
kind
of
a
funny
situation,
not
knowing
what
the
discussion
might
have
been
if
tom,
if
you
and
kristen
did
those
changes
or
if
you
just
did
that,
but
just
on
the
general
comments,
the
use
of
green
belt
and
greenways
throughout
I'll
address
that
in
a
minute
and
then
the
other
one
was
give
it
they
because
of
the
different
people
that
contributed.
I
There
were
comments
about
the
different
writing
styles,
and
so
I
did
ask
if
if
they
could
supply
an
example
of
what
they
found
kind
of
really
outstanding
like
that
it
was
so
different
than
the
rest
of
it,
because
that
would
just
help
to
understand
what
they
saw
in
that
it
has
been
a
comment
from
other
folks
as
well.
I
So
addressing
some
of
the
specific
comments.
The
first
one
was
on
page
seven,
and
that
was
this
one,
so
the
original
one
read
and
tom
you
have
this.
Let's
see
I
have
the
original
on.
B
B
H
B
I
Can
see
up,
I
don't
I
can't
see
my
cursor,
but
the
plan
contains
this
inventory
is
done
by
listing
individual
part
parcels
ownership
in
a
map
and
then
the
following
sentence.
Our
paragraph
started
with
the
plan
does
not
identify
individual
parcels
and
that
was
confusing
to
folks.
I
So
I
just
tried
to
reword
it
that
the
the
plan
identifies
general
areas
for
future
protection
in
a
matter
similar
to
what
was
done
for
the
2016
pocd,
just
kind
of
moving
words
around
that
tom
had,
but
just
to
take
out
that
what
appeared
or
felt
to
be
contradictory.
So
hopefully
that's
okay,.
D
This
is
tom
olsen.
I
I
agree
with
what
you
did
there.
That's
probably
much
better
wording.
Thank
you.
I
I
Oh
well,
this
so
later
on.
There
was
a
comment
that,
in
the
middle
of
a
section
in
section
two
it
there
was
a
statement
that
sounded
like
a
recommendation
and
they
felt
that
that
seemed
out
of
place
or
didn't
know
why
there
weren't
more
recommendations.
I
And
so
the
request
was
just
to
put
a
sentence
in
in
the
introduction
or
in
the
you
know,
early
on
in
the
document
kind
of
the
what
to
expect
to
find
in
each
of
the
sections.
And
so
that's
what
I
try
to
do
here.
I
B
C
I
So
so
all
of
them
do
not
have
public
access,
except
for
uconn,
which
does
have
public
access,
so
that
was.
I
tried
to
clarify
that
by
just
putting
in
except
for
uconn,
which
has
public
access
so
deb,
I
think
jones
was
the
one
that
pointed
that
out
and
then
shena
cosset
has
another
n
in
there
I
caught
that
one.
I
There
was
some
feedback
as
well
about
calling
the
beaver
dam
creek
as
a
beaver
dam
brook,
and
I
kind
of
ignored
that
until
I
got
to
the
end
of
the
document,
what
I
was
reading
through
it
and
later
on,
there's
a
reference
to
beaver
dam
brook.
So
I
just
for
consistency
made
him
the
same
thing.
I
I
I
kind
of
reworded
this
one,
so
this
is
where
I
I
tota.
I
started
the
conversation
with
the
planning,
folks
that
I
felt
there
was
a
comment
that
said
that
it
seemed
like
we
were
using
green
belt
and
green
way
interchangeably,
and
I
didn't
feel
that
we
did
it
all.
I
thought
it
was
very
clearly
outlined.
I
It
was
labeled
that
way
at
the
request
of
the
folks
who
are
submitting
applications
to
the
state
to
gain
the
title
of
greenway
for
these
areas.
I
They
thought
that
that
would
help
their
case,
so
the
request
was
for
the
map
that
came
directly
out
of
the
co
pocd
to
keep
it
labeled,
as
it
was,
and
you'll
see
that
so
this
one
was
slightly
rewarded,
and
then
I
took
the
exact
map
out
of
the
pocd
and
copied
it
in
which
I
think
should
be
down
one
page,
larry
yep
that
one,
and
so
I
just
kept
it.
The
request
was
to
have
the
exact
map,
and
so
that's
what
I
did.
I
H
I
B
J
It's
we
got,
we
got
potential
and
we
got
proposed
it's
kind
of
it's
a
it's
a
little.
I
don't
know
just
it's.
J
I
J
I
G
B
E
This
is
the
show
on
that
app.
I
have
a
question
for
you
guys
sure,
so
I
I
still
haven't
logged
in
to
the,
and
I
don't
even
know
if
the
computers
are
available
right
now
are.
Are
we
okay
with
using
that
map?
Even
though
we
know
there
are
some
minor
things
we
want
to
change
about
it,
or
do
you
think
it's
really
important
for
me
to
to
try
to
get
in
there
and
and
update
the
map.
K
C
D
This
is
tom
olsen.
As
far
if
we're
unable
to
update
this
thing,
I
I
can
live
with
it,
it's
it
is
technically
a
living
document,
and
maybe
we
want
to
make
an
additional
statement
that
this
is
subject
to
change,
because
we
don't
make
a
positive
statement
that
we're
going
to
maintain
this
as
the
as
the
commission-
and
maybe
we
should
add
somewhere
in
this
section
right
in
here-
that
that,
on
the
reference
to
the
map
and
that
whatever
that
sentence
is
that.
D
Yeah
based
on
detail,
reviews
has
updated
us
and
we'll
in
the
following
recommendations
and
we'll
update
and
provide
future
updates
and
may
be
made
available
through
contact
through
the
commission
or
the
planning
department.
E
I
I
like
that
a
lot,
because
I
feel
kind
of
bad
that
I
haven't
fixed
it,
but
but
the
process
of
getting
into
that
computer
is
so
cumbersome
that
I
want
only
one
to
I
mean
I
will
try
it
if
it's
critical,
but
it
sounds
to
me
like
we
can
just
say
this
is
conceptual
and
we're
continuing
to
work
on.
It
is
that
okay.
D
No
and
we've
had
it
just
like
the
the
economic
model
that
we
can
update
it,
because
it's
like
a
workbook
that
we
have
on
the
side.
This
map
will
be
on
this
another
document
on
the
side
and
and
to
con,
and
if
they
want,
if
somebody
from
the
public
or
has
a
question
about
it,
they're
going
to
contact
the
commission
through
the
planning
department.
D
Just
and
we've
got
that
those
words
are
in
the
section
that
talks
about
the
economic
development
model.
C
C
I
E
C
I
And
thank
you.
Oh
I
was
using
my
husband's
computer,
so
roger
did
not
make
these
changes.
I
did.
I
don't
have
word
on
my
computer.
So
anyway,
the
next
one
page
47.
I
Okay,
so
there
was
a
discussion
about
up
up
up
up
up
back,
I
mean
okay.
So
what
used
to
be
here
was
the
inland
wetlands
discussion
and
the
inland
wetlands
agency,
so
deb
and
john
indicated
that
they
do
not
have
oversight
over
watersheds,
none
whatsoever,
so
we
took
it
out
now.
I
D
Sheds
this
is
tom
olson.
As
far
as
for
the
deletion,
if
it's
been
recommended
through
the
planning
staff
in
coordination
with
inline
wetlands,
I
have
no
problem
removing
it.
D
It
was
in
here
just
for
I
inserted
this
the
origin
in
the
original
document
a
long
time
ago,
just
as
a
way
of
beefing
up
the
for
for
two
aspects,
one
is
to
for
the
general
reader
to
have
a
wider
understanding
of
of
of
this
area
and
also
to
and
to
also
to
outline
that
there
isn't
a
give
and
take
between
our
two
commissions
that
the
inland
wetlands
has
their
responsibilities
and
we
have
our
responsibilities
because
nowhere
else
do
we
talk
about
inland
wetlands
to
a
lot
in
within
the
document
other
than
in
this
section
right
in
here,
and
so
I
was
trying
to
just
outline
what
their
responsibilities
as
a
general
han,
as
this
is
supposed
to
provide
a
general
handbook
for
the
membership
of
the
commission
and
also
for
transparency
to
folks
outside.
D
I
I
D
And
I
I
went
in
and
they
have
it
posted
okay,
the
five
year
updates
and
stuff,
and
when
I
went
there,
the
data
that
I
have
included
in
here
is
no.
It
is
because
the
document
has
gotten
so
big
because
they
are
their
scope
of
the
of
the
of
the.
The
program
has
expanded
since
over
the
last
10
years
that
they've
shrunk
down
and
they're
no
longer
incorporating
any
additional
type
of
stuff.
D
So
the
only
reference
that
in
the
groton
area,
as
far
as
where
they
want
to
expand
right
now,
is
in
the
is
in
the
2008
version,
and
so
I,
when
I
go
back
and
get
the
the
2019
version,
there
was
nothing
in
there
that
had
any
reference
to
wanting
to
expand
anything
in
groton
and
and
so
that's
why
I
left
the
reference
the
way
it
was,
and
I
tried
to
explain
that
in
the
in
the
in
the
notes.
D
But
you
know
I'll
agree
that
the
they
update
it,
but
what's
happened
here,
is
that
they
that
this
they're
streamlining
because
of
the
size
of
the
document
has
gotten
so
big,
because
they've
incorporated
so
many
additional
areas
that
they've
really
set
aside
any
kind
of
future
areas,
and
so,
from
my
viewpoint,
as
far
as
in
the
big
picture,
thinking
was
to
stay
referenced
on
the
on
the
2008
version,
because
it
was
so
specific
relative
to
grot
utilities
and
to
the
northeast
corner
quadrant
area
of
groton
for
the
expansion,
because
that's
one
of
the
areas
that
we
wanted
to
look
at
within
our
plan
and
to
not
and
to
throw
that
area
that
information
out,
I
think,
is,
is
doing
ourselves
a
disservice.
D
I
know
bray
and
everybody
over
the
years
has
been
always
focused
on
that
northeast
quadrant
we've
looked
at
it
as
a
commission
in
total
last
last
summer,
and
so
I
and
and
because
they're
they're
great
their
their
information
was
was
so
specific.
I
think
it's
still
valuable
and
and
their
they're
referencing
and
stuff
is,
is
still
important.
D
I
I
Okay,
this
is
ann.
No,
that
was
helpful.
I
was
wondering
if
the
map
that
you
have
down
below
did
that
come
out
of
this.
The
southeastern
plant,
this
one.
D
Yes,
it
did
that
came
out
of
the
ground
utilities
portion
of
the
southeastern
plan,
so
this
is
this
is
from
grout
utilities,
input
working
with
the
with
the
contractor
that
to
the
2008
plan
and
that's
the
last
time,
they've
referenced
anything
within
the
grant
area
because
it
has
the
origin.
The
current
groton
reservoir
areas-
but
this
is
the
the
the
expansion
to
the
northeast
corner
of
groton-
is
no
longer
is
no
longer
outlined
because
they
don't
have
this
type
of
information
in
the
current
this
year.
I
Okay,
would
it
be
worth
trying
to
reach
out
to
someone?
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
do
that,
just
at
groton
utilities
did
you
do
that
or
you
went
to
the
website.
H
I
Well,
okay!
Well
I
I
wouldn't
I
don't
mind
just
trying
to
get
hold
of
someone
there
and
just
see.
D
Yes,
that's
that's
the
way
it's
all
referenced
is.
Is
that
reference
46
there
yeah
is
is
the
is
the
2008
version.
I
did
not
go
reference,
the
2019
version,
but
it's
still
available
and
still
posted
at
the
see
the
other
one
you
have
to
go.
The
2019
version
is
not
posted
at
the
ground
utilities
website.
I
had
to
go
to
the
the
whatever
the
c
cog
or
whatever
they.
You
know
their
their
group
name
to
get
that
to
go
to
investigate
this
baby.
K
C
All
right
yeah,
I
just
I
just
clicked
on
it-
it
did
come
up
december
2008..
So
if
that's
the
case,
this
isn't
quite
the
reference.
46
isn't
quite
this.
D
Well,
there's
basically,
there's
sections
that
there's
appendices
that,
for
each
of
the
different
water
departments
puts
into
the
thing-
and
this
is
this
is
the
section
for
for
the
the
the
reference
part-
is
that
it
was
what's
called
that
has
this
map
section
in
it.
C
Okay,
so
where
it
says
that
for
the
protection
of
local
water
supply
should
be
the
local
groton
water
supply.
Well,.
C
C
C
Lines
yeah
all
right.
Well
then,
I
I
I
mean
technically,
it's
technically
accurate.
I
guess
is
where
I
was
that's.
Where
I
was
going
and
the
details
are
there,
the
chart
is
from
2008,
so
I
think
I'm,
I
think,
I'm
okay
with
with
the
change
and
if
there's
any
other
object
or
is
there
any
other
objection.
I
B
I
I
Okay,
so
this
took
me
a
while
to
understand
what
what
they
were
talking
about,
but
there
from
their
perspective,
the
subdivision
regulation
is
very
clear
on
the
process
of
protecting
the
land,
permanent
protection
of
land
from
subdivisions,
but
all
other
land
acquisitions.
C
Yeah
and
I
I
have
seen
the
subdivision
development
process,
which
is
fairly
specific,
but
that's
limited
to
these
half
acre
acre
kind
of
pieces,
so
you're
right
it
when
you
get
in
a
whole
new
new
parcel,
then
it's,
I
guess
I
won't
say
catches
catch
can
but
there's
not
a
specific
process
for
that.
So
I
would
agree
with
that.
D
Larry,
this
is
tom
olsen.
I
guess
the
reason
I
had
gone
down
this
path
and
the
way
it
was.
I
wrote
this
portion
of
this,
and
this
recommendation
was
that
I
felt
that
there
was
that
when
a
parcel
gets
sent
to
us-
or
you
know,
the
developer
puts
a
site
plan
together.
It
goes
through
the
whole
approval
process,
and
then
the
town
council
finally
agrees
to
accept
the
land,
but
then
what's
put
in
place,
it
just
becomes
town
land.
What
puts
in
place
is
actually
going
to
be
protected.
D
Its
protection
is
when
you
have
a
conservation
easement
on
it,
that
type
of
stuff,
and
that's
why
the
recommendation
is
there
is
to
for
us
to
go
not
to
decide
today,
but
to
take
a
look
in
the
future.
To
take
a
look,
can
we
provide
better
protection
of
that
land
to
so
that
it's
maintained
as
open
space,
rather
than
just
given
to
the
parks
and
rex
people
to
be
made
into
a
and
assume
that
they're
going
to
take
care
of
it
as
as
a
park,
rather
than
as
as
a
protected
open
space?
D
D
That
they
all
are-
and
I
and
I
it
just
kind
of
worries
me-
that
we
have
not
done
enough
due
diligence
and
that's
why
the
recommendation
was
in
here
is
to
review
that
process.
That's
all
we're
saying
is
that
we
don't
this.
It
might
be
okay,
but
we're
just
not
knowledgeable
enough
as
a
commission
to
know
what's
actually
happening.
C
C
Problem,
what's
in
the
deed,
in
other
words,
is
there
a
a
conservation,
easement
applied
or
stated
you
know
when
it's
provided
in
on
the
town
books?
I
think
that's
tom's
question:
is
it
really
there
versus
yeah
the
town
owns
it,
but
is
there
a
conservation
easement
so
that
the
town
can't
make
it
a?
I
don't
know
a
utility
site,
for
example,.
A
I
don't
know
if
that's
listed
in
the
subdivision
regulations
to
require
that,
but
there
has
always
been
the
practice
of
the
town.
We
have
a
college
conservation
easement
in
the
deed
when,
when
we're
acquiring
these
open
space
parcels,
I
I've
been
in
the
town
two
years.
We
actually
have
not
had
one
subdivision
since
I
started
so
I
haven't
personally
done
it,
but
there
is
one
that
I
reviewed
that
happened
before
I
got
here.
I
have
the
deed
right
now
and
there
is
a
conservation
easement
on
it.
So
it's.
A
I
don't
know
if
it's
I
don't
know
if
it's
stated
in
the
in
the
document
in
the
regulations,
though
or
not
I
can.
I
can
look
that
up.
That's.
M
C
It
doesn't
distinguish
between
subdivision
and
or,
let's
call
it
unique
parcel.
So
I
think
our
action
tom's
point
does
cover
going
in
and
reviewing
it
to
make
sure
it's
there.
C
So
I
think
we're
okay
on
the
action
side,
the
question
is:
is
there
something
that
should
be
changed
on
the
tech
side.
C
D
C
You
know
to
ensure
permanent
protection
of
open
space
land,
it
doesn't
say
it
doesn't
say,
except
for
subdivision
or
subdivision
development.
It
just
says
open
space
period,
so
I
think
we're
okay
in
terms
of
the
statement
and
the
actions
to
go
and
review
it,
even
if
we
go
in
and
re
revisit
the
subdivision
development
process
just
to
verify
that
it's
there.
So
I
I
would
say
I'm
I'm
okay
with
it,
because
the
action
verifies
it
or
validates
it.
C
D
D
That
and
the
way
that
way,
the
way
the
text
right
here
says
processes
needs
to
be
developed
by
the
planning
and
zoning
commission.
C
Yeah
the
action
says
that
we're
going
to
provide
input
to
that.
So
I
think
that.
C
B
C
But
that
that
that's
not
a
change
it
just
kind
of
somehow
we
didn't
capture
all
those
those
responsibility
changes,
so
we
double
checked
that
time
to
make
sure
they're
all
from
the
original
doc.
So
that's
it.
Okay
sounds
good
all
right,
so
very
good.
Now
one
other
question
or
recommendation
came
out
of
that
review
was
that-
and
this
is
from
john
reiner-
that
even
though
it's
not
legally
required
that
we
have
a
public
hearing
to
allow
any
one
else
to
provide
input
or
feedback
on
the
document
as
the
very
last
step.
C
So
let
me
throw
that
out
for
discussion.
There's
no,
like
I
said,
there's
no
regulatory
structure.
That's
there
because
we're
an
advisory
commission,
but
he
thought
that
would
would
be
a
positive
from
the
community.
And
if
anyone
came
back
afterwards,
then
we'd
say
wait
a
minute
we
we
did
have
an
open
review
of
it,
even
though
we've
had
it
out
there
for
a
while
so
comments.
Sir.
D
D
D
K
M
A
question
about
at
some
point,
you're
going
to
make
a
presentation
about
the
plan,
and
you
dovetail
that
in
with
an
opportunity
for
the
public,
if
you
will
to
have
input
into
it,
so
if
they
have
particular
problems
with
something
you
know
we
could
discuss
it,
could
you
combine
the
two?
In
other
words,
well,.
C
We
we,
I
did
talk
with
that.
It
was
going
to
come
up
later,
but
I
did
talk
with
john
burt
and
we've
kind
of
targeted
the
first
quarter
of
21
to
present
to
the
town
council
right,
and
I
thought
it
would
be
a
combination
of
the
plan
and
also
you
know
kind
of
an
annual
report
that
we're
supposed
to
give
so
that's
out
there.
I
I
was
thinking.
If
we're
going
to
do
it
is.
I
would
prefer
to
open
it
up
to
the
public
this
year.
C
A
So
yeah,
I
can
explain
what
what
john's
suggestion
was
so
to
answer
tom's
question:
can
the
conservation
commission
hold
a
public
hearing?
Yes,
you
can
and-
and
that's
that's
the
format,
we're
suggesting
that
you
should
follow
a
formalized
public
hearing,
which
would
be
a
legal
advertisement
in
the
newspaper
calling
the
day
to
come
or
you
know,
participate
and
then
put
out
a
news
article
on
it
after
it,
and
it
would
be
the
same
format
as
a
public
hearing
for
any
other
document
that
was
going
to
be
incorporated
and
adopted.
A
It
would
be
like
tom
was
saying
you
know
short
statements
by
everyone
that
would
like
to
participate
from
the
public.
Each
member
would
participate
and
the
conservation
commission
wouldn't
deliberate
on
anything
until
the
public
hearing
was
closed
and
then
during
that
same
evening
or
another
evening,
it's
up
to
you.
You
would
then
take
consider
all
the
comments,
deliberate
it
and
then
approve
the
plan
after
it.
A
I
I
would
suggest
that
you'd
want
the
plan
in
final
form
for
at
least
a
week
before
you
had
the
public
hearing.
So
so
anyone
interested
can
look
at
it.
You
know,
because
just
thinking
back,
I
think
the
first
time
the
plan
was
sent
out
to
the
first
phase.
A
One
recipients
was
probably
the
end
of
august
and
this
plan
looks
a
lot
different
than
what
they
saw
back
then,
and
I
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
anyone
would
want
to
comment
on
it
again
or
not,
but
public
hearing
allows
for
that
that
to
happen,
and
it
it's
really.
You
know
what
we
do
in
government
is
we
try
to
get
as
much
input
as
we
can
in
a
formalized
public
hearing
before
really
anything's
adopted
and
that
that
was
the
suggestion.
A
You
know
whether
or
not
you'd
like
to
do
that
before
or
after
the
council
that's
up
to
you,
but
if
you
had
a
public
hearing
and
finalized
it
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
the
council
would
want
to
change
anything
during
the
presentation
or
not
or
how
that's
going
to
be
presented,
but
that
that
was
our
suggestion.
Just
it
kind
of
adds
a
little
validity
to
the
plan.
You
could
put
it
in
there
that
public
hearing
was
held
on
such
and
such
a
date,
and
we
received
his
comments,
and
you
know
this.
A
D
Larry
this
is
tom,
wilson
bruce.
I
appreciate
your
answers.
I
guess
larry
one
thing
that
in
the
big
picture
here
is
have
we
have
you
had
any
discussions
with
john
burt?
Well,
because
we
directly
worked
for
him
on
this
issue
in
regard
to
the
sequencing
of
the
of
the
of
a
hearing
and
a
presentation
to
the
art
on
to
the
town
council
on
rtm,
which
we
which
we
said
we'd
come
back
to
once
the
plan
was
finalized,
but
I
agree
with
the
current
sequence
of
a
hearing
and
then
briefing.
C
All
right
yet
my
discussion,
I
did,
I
didn't
ask
him
that
specific
question
I
did
ask
him:
did
he
want
us
to
give
him
a
briefing
first
and
then
do
the
town
council
and
he
said
well,
let's
just
do
it
all
together
I
mean
so
that
was
the
one
discussion
I
had.
So
I
think
I
think
where
we're
at
is
we've
kind
of
zeroed
in
and,
like
I
said
on
first
quarter,
21
to
the
town
council
and
the
town
manager
and
the
question
on
the
table.
C
Right
now
is:
do
we
want
to
hold
a
public
hearing
and
I'll
I'll
go
with
the
recommendation
from
the
staff
to
call
it
a
hearing
rather
than
a
forum,
and
that's
a
yes
or
no,
and
then
once
we
get
through
that,
then
we
can
talk
about
the
process
and
the
timing
of
it.
So
maybe
it's
a
show
of
hands
if
you
will
of
folks
that
support
a
public
hearing
that
so
michelle.
E
C
G
C
Okay,
so
so
I
think
that
bruce
is,
I'm
not
sure,
requires
a
motion,
but
so
I
think
we've
got
that
then.
My
next
question
is:
when
would
we
do
it
and
my
personal
preference
is
it's
a
2020
plan?
I
want
to
get
it
done
in
2020,
which
to
me
says
the
week
of
november
30th.
C
No
the
week
before
the
following
week,
the
following
week
and
that
because
our
conservation
next
meeting
is
the
seventh
of
december,
so
I
thought
we
would
hold
it
before
our
next
meeting.
So
we
can
have
a
final
vote
and
and
go
for
publication
at
the
meeting
on
the
seventh,
so
you're
right,
there's
thanksgiving
week.
So
it
would
either
be
the
week
of
the
16th
of
the
week
or
the
30th
16th
is
two
weeks
off.
I
thought
that
was
might
be
a
little
tight
because
we've
got
to
get
something
in
the
paper.
Yeah.
C
D
I'm
back
on
the
by
the
17th:
yes,.
C
By
17.,
okay,
so
I
would
like
the
whole
text
team
to
be
there
at
a
minimum,
so
that
makes
it
easier
if
there's
any
questions,
so
I
would
throw
it
out
there
for
a
motion
to
two
things
is
that
is
to
have
a
sequence
of
having
a
public
hearing
scheduled
for
the
week
of
november
30th,
with
a
subsequent
first
quarter,
21
presentation
to
the
town
council-
and
I
guess
that's
all
it
needs
to
be.
I
believe
so
is
someone
willing
to
make
such
a
moment.
I
Larry
this
is
ann.
You
just
mentioned
that
you
were
hoping
that
the
whole
text
team
would
be
there.
I
it's
possible
at
this
point
that
I
might
be
away
that
week
through
the
fifth
of
the
of
december,
but
tom
has
nose
the
document
forwards
and
backwards.
So
I
think
if
he's
there,
I
would
be
fine
with
that.
C
All
right
still
looking
for
emotion,
yep.
E
D
C
D
C
Oh
you're
right,
we
do
have
to
then
pick
the
exact
date.
Don't
we
well
first
of
all,
let's
get
through
here
and
then
we
could.
We
can
work
on
the
the
date.
Second.
So
all
in
favor
of
the
the
motion,
as
stated.
C
All
right,
that's
that's
unanimous!
Now
I
think
I
don't
know
bruce.
We
do
require
town
support
because
you
would
set
up
the
webinar
and
you
would,
you
know,
provide
the
advertising
et
cetera,
so
we
have
to
then
say
bruce
come
back
with
a
specific
day
within
that
week
that
that
fits
the
town.
You
know
your
availability
and
you
know
the
town's
availability.
I
mean.
How
would
how
do
you
want
to
do
that?.
A
C
All
right,
let's,
let's
do
this-
let
us
because
we're
going
to
have
to
construct
the
actual
text
of
the
invite
or
the
or
the
announcement.
C
C
All
right,
my
goodness,
so
everyone
I
I
think,
congratulations
are
in
order.
I
think
we
are
going
to
get
us
a
20
20
plan.
C
M
C
C
A
C
C
B
D
Is
tom
olsen,
the
the
maps
are
are
pretty
much
are:
are
our
jpeg
files
that
can
be
blown
up
to
get
to
allow
in
the
in
the
pdf
version
to
allow
you
to
go
in
and
take
a
look
at
this
at
any
scale
and
and
detail
that
is
desirable?
I
made
sure
that
the
detail
is
in
the
is
embedded
in
the
in
the
in
the
document
in
the
individual
maps
so
that
when
you
have
the
pdf.
B
D
The
pdf
version
and
that's
where
they
are
they're
fully
expandable
and
you
can
and
such
as
the
one
that's
in
the
packet.
If
you
take
a
look
at
the
pack
and
you
go
in
and
spend
any
one
of
those
maps
they
all
blow
up
to
whatever
detail
you
you
desire-
and
that
was
the
intention
with
all
the
maps.
C
M
Okay,
I
have
just
one
other
question
and
this
this
is
more
for
tom.
The
question
is:
do
we
have
something
in
the
document
that
talks
about
water
access.
D
The
only
items
in
the
document
that
talks
to
water
access
there
may
be
a
couple
of
words
in
regards
to
in
in
the
in
the
discussion
of
the
in
section
two
in
section
two,
but
we
really
don't
have
a
individual
chapter
or
a
section
devoted
to
water
access,
because
it's
really
open
space
as
opposed
to
the
to
the
water
to
the
water
access
ability,
as
as
a
as
a
focus
area.
D
Here
we
do
talk
about
it
in
in
the
in
the
in
3.7
relative
to
recreational
opportunities,
be
the
only
other
place
that
has
any
kind
of
reference.
But
it's
really
not
very
specific.
C
All
right
so
moving
from
planning
to
doing
not
that
the
plan
isn't
a
doing
thing,
but
you
know.
The
next
item
is
the
open
space,
outreach,
gmtv
website
and
trail
booklet.
So
I
wanted
so
we
do
have
some
progress
on
all
of
those.
C
H
C
J
C
C
C
C
C
Well,
that's.
C
The
way,
but
we're
fixing
that
why
doesn't
that?
I
know
we
had
this
problem
before.
C
All
right,
do
you
want
to
try
your
I
mean
I.
I
thought
it
was
from
the
same
spot,
but
go
ahead.
J
B
J
J
J
H
Did
here
we
go.
J
You
know
what
the
other
thing
is.
I
could
share
the
I
could
send
the
email
with
the
dropbox.
I
don't
know,
each
person
could
look
at
it.
The
sound
is
good.
Somebody
has
to
download
it.
Maybe
maybe
that's
just
that's.
E
C
C
A
kid
jesus,
that's
downloaded
by
the
way.
K
K
C
The
the
the
point
is
that
a
series
of
videos
on
each
of
our
value
statements-
that's
in
okay,
and
so
this
is
the
health
of
the
health
and
well-being
that
open
space
provides
to
the
community.
That
was,
I
think,
the
first,
the
first
one
on
the
the
options.
B
J
They're
they're
mission:
it's
going
to
talk
a
lot
about
mental
health
and
the
stress
and
how
just
how
good
open
space
is
for
everybody's
mental
health.
This
is
a
great
president
and
she's
talking
about
her
husband
is
a
veteran
with
some
ptsd
issues,
and
I
think
she
has
a
son
with
some
disability
and
how
they've
discovered
that
the
open
space
has
just
been
amazing
and
helping
them
cope
with
all.
J
And
how
kids,
at
times
the
kids
spend
all
their
time
digitally
and
how
expensive
it
is
for
a
family
right
now
to
to
get
out
and
have
an
outing
together,
but
open
space
is
free,
but
it's
it's
nicely
done.
C
Yeah,
we'll
send
you
an
email
with
the.
H
C
With
the
thing
in
there
kristen
come
on,
since
you
have
you
have
that
up
pardon.
J
B
C
Okay,
let's
see,
let's
see
where
my.
K
J
I'm
going
to
say
as
long
as
we're
paused
right
now,
I'm
going
to
send
that
bruce.
I'm
just
going
to
send
you
the
link,
and
maybe
somebody
ann
or
somebody.
You
can
check
it
and
just
see
if
it
works
without
the
whole
email
that
it's
attached
to.
H
D
Larry
you
mentioned
something
about
naming.
Somebody
is.
Are
you
looking
for
a
motion
to
put
this
somebody
on
as
a
support
to
the
conservation
commission?
I
just
I
don't
know
of
any
formality
that
we
have
to
go
through
on
this
all
right.
I
didn't
know
that
we
can
have
a
subcommittee
basically
establishing
another
subcommittee
with
a
person
from
the
general
public
attached
to
it.
C
Yes,
so
the
intent
matter
of
fact,
we've
got
a
subcommittee
formed
with
christian
myself
and
becky,
but
what
I
wanted
to
do
is
get
the
ability
you
know
I
want
to
be
able
to
call
be
able
to
have
becky
involved
in
our
in
our
meetings.
C
I
guess
the
at
the
you
know
during
that
section,
where
we
discuss
and
review
the
videos
and
talk
about
the
next
one
and
she
is
going
to
be
spending
a
significant
amount
of
time
and
I
wanted
to
get
some
what's
called
whether
it's
recognition
to
her
role
on
that.
So
that's
what
I
was
looking
is,
from
the
commission's
point
of
view
to
support.
J
I'm
in
favor,
just
in
that
she
brings
a
level
of
social
media
awareness.
In
terms
of
you
know,
facebook
instagram
youtube
like
she.
She
has
the
gamut
of
experience,
which
is
an
area
that
I
think
is
really
of
benefit
to
us.
So
I'd
be
very
in
favor
of
having
her
able
to
participate
to
help
us
out.
E
All
right,
this
is
michelle,
I
was
just
wanting.
I
mean
I
don't.
I
think
that
sounds
great.
I
just
don't
know
that
we
have
to
make
anything
official
in
order
for
it
to
work
with
her.
I
don't.
I
don't
quite
understand
exactly
why
we
need
to
do
something
if
you
think
we
do
that's
fine,
but
I
was
wondering
why
we
just
couldn't
work
with
her
without
trying
to
do
something
official
like
that.
J
Michelle
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
know
like
we're
in
the
beginning,
we
always
ask
if
the
public
has
a
comment
and
it's
eugenie
or
liz.
If
technically,
if
she's
a
member
of
the
of
the
public,
then
I
don't
know
how
much
we
can
admit
her
in
and
out
of
a
meeting.
If
it's
topical,
you
know,
whereas,
if
she's
just
kind
of
on
the
panel
or
whatever
it
is,
then
she
can,
you
know,
participate
at
will.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
well.
C
Yeah
now
said
we're
not
talking
about
a
commission
member,
but
just
you
know
an
ex-official
yeah
representation
that
we
can
call
on
her,
and
you
know,
because
I
want
to
get
some
as
we
get
to
that
section
when
we
published
it
on
the
groton
tv.
H
D
Well,
it
sounds
like
it
really
is
a
john
burt
letter
to
her
or
something
it'd
be
more
appropriate
because
he's
the
one
that
makes
the
appointments
to
the
commission,
and
I
think
I
think
you
hit
around
the
nail
on
the
head
there
with
an
ex
official
position
that
he
would
just
a
letter
of
delegation
from
from
him
to
her
as
an
ex-official
member
of
the
commission
to
support
videography
and
and
our
outreach
programs
would
be
the
most
appropriate
way
that
gives
her
an
official
designation.
C
Let's
do
this
so
bruce,
you
know,
could
you
investigate?
Do
I
need
that
or
I
can
just
do
it
directly?
I
mean
so
it's
one
or
the
other.
It's
either
it's
a.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
I
I
don't
think
I
mean
there's
nothing
in
there's,
not
there's
no
official.
You
know
ex-officio
position,
that's
tied
to
the
conservation
committee
I
mean.
If
I
I
don't
you
could.
I
would
suggest
talk
to
the
town
manager
about
what
he
can
do
with
that.
I
mean
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
abending
something
or
anything,
but
I
don't
think
there's
anything
in
our.
You
know
this
this,
the
statues.
A
C
I'll
do
I'll
take
I'll.
Do
it
all
right
so
I'll
I'll.
Take
that,
but
the
I
guess
the
consensus
of
the
commission
is
to
continue
to
utilize
her
support
and
provide
the
recognition
based
upon
her
efforts
in
the
videography
effort,
because
I
know
I
couldn't
put
that
video
together.
C
C
C
Patterson
of
the
parts
and
rex
is
also
part
of
this
subcommittee,
so
we
really
have
the
four
of
us
are
kind
of
working
on
this
little
project
and
the
intent
would
be
to
suck
you
guys
in
depending
on
which
of
the
seven
value
statements
we're
going
to
do
so.
You
know
I
volunteered
for
the
economic
value
statement.
C
Obviously,
and
I've
been
looking
for
you,
you
guys
to
kind
of
support,
you
know
her
on
some
of
the
other
ones,
so
she's
gathering
videos
and
pictures
and
we'll
do
that,
so
the
other
thing
I'll
move
on
the
other
thing
that's
going
on
is
getting
a
web
page
and
let.
K
C
Let
me
bring
that
up
and
I've
got
agreement
from
john
burt
to
where's
my
no
there
it
is.
I
didn't
have
that
open.
I
apologize
for
trying
to
open
it.
It's.
C
Yep,
so
let
me
let
me
bring
this
up
and
share
again
and
give
you
an
idea
of
what
this
stuff
looks
like
all
right.
So
there
is
a
let's
see:
okay,
there
it
goes
so
there
is
a
new
town
website,
that's
being
released
next
friday,
a
week
from
friday,
yeah
today's
tuesday,
so
it'd
be
another
another.
Let's
see
if
I
got
that
right,
is
it
this
coming
friday?
C
C
You
know
this,
this
proposal
on
the
trail
book,
the
user
manual
community
videos-
you
know
the
storage,
you
know
a
bunch
of
stuff
in
here
and
as
we
went
down
to,
let's
say
that
one
is:
is
plastic
reductions,
have
some
information
there
and
make
it
an
information
gathering
or
an
information
portal
for
that
in
plastic
reduction.
For
example,
we
have
the
supporter
program
and
you
could
see
the
this
has
now
been
manufactured,
so
their
stickers
are
now
available.
C
They're,
let's
see
so
that's
the
size,
so
you
get
a
view
of
the
size
of
it.
So
it's
kind
of
neat.
Now
the
question
is,
we
did
get
all
screwed
up
with
a
pandemic
about
utilizing
that,
but
that's
that's
what's
there
so
that
so
we've
got
the
approval
to
do
it.
I've
talked
to
the
I.t
department
they're,
all
just
waiting
for
us,
and
I
said
I'd
wait
until
after
they've
come
out
with
their
new
website
to
give
them
the
material
and
they
would
get
it
into
the
into
the
town's
website.
C
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
have
volunteers
for
a
subcommittee
on
the
web
called
a
web
subcommittee
page
or
a
subcommittee
committee.
I'm.
C
Yes,
kristen
kristen
is
is
volunteered
for
that.
We
can't
have
more
than
three.
E
C
The
committee
would
be
to
do
to
if
you
notice,
what's
up
here,
is
to
do
the
design
of
this
and
to
identify
what
we
wanted
and
then,
obviously
all
these
things
are
are
things
that
we
have
done
or
will
do,
but
that's
really
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
get
this
set
up
right
this
I
just
this
is
one
of
my
own
pictures.
I
picked
up
at
haley
farms.
C
J
Yeah,
I
think
the
purpose
michelle
is
is
basically
again
communicating
to
the
public,
raising
awareness
of
the
open
space
and
and
also
what
we
are
doing
as
a
group,
and
this
is
just
becomes
a
going
forward
kind
of
a
living
document
of
as
things
come
up
and
put
them
up
there.
So
it's
just
kind
of
you
know.
E
C
That
we're
linking
up
with
the
parts
and
facebook
page
which
has
about
five
thousand
residents
already
there
so
we're
gonna
build
into
that
existing,
I
guess
family
etc
to
get
access
to
this
stuff.
G
J
E
C
E
Okay,
I
hate
to
do
this
guys,
but
I
I
have
to
go
to
work
so
I
will
be
talking
to
I
guess:
on
the
30th
or
whatever
day
we
have
that
other
meeting.
Hopefully
all.
K
C
That's
from
the
commission,
we
also
have
jessica
and
probably
becky,
who
would
be
community
members
on
that
same
subcommittee,
which
is
which
is
kind
of
it's
kind
of
getting
into
that.
You
know
eugenia
mentioned
earlier.
We're
going
to
do
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
do.
C
A
video
on
is
community
stewardship,
which
is
what
the
king
property
is
turning
out
to
be
so
we're
trying
to
capture
images
as
we
go
through
that
and
then
next
year
have
a
video
that
says
you
can
help
be
a
steward
of
a
a
local
park.
That's
right
close
to
you.
It's
really
the
people
right
around
that
property
and
try
and
get
more
involvement
and
they're
doing
it
with
parks
and
rec.
C
So
that's
kind
of
the
the
approach
there
and
you
know
that
would
be
a
a
video
to
get
people
involved
in
the
stewardship
of
these
properties.
These
are
now
town
properties,
not
avalonia
go
so
they
have
their
own
programs
for
stewardship
the
town.
Doesn't
I
mean
that
so
this
is
kind
of
like
trying
to
supplement
the
town
resources
for
us.
So
I
I
thought
that
was
a
neat
idea
that
they
were
doing
and
it
sounds
like
you
know.
We
could
put
that
into
our
thought
process
tom
when,
when
we
get
to
the
stewardship.
D
I
I
would
say
we
have
thought
about
it,
and
it
is.
It
is
a
section
in
that
whole
volunteer
actions
in
section
six
of
the
plan
and
then
that's
been
incorporated
into
in
into
the
workbook.
Also
there's
there's
a
section
in
there.
It
just
needs
to
be
more
fully
developed
all
right.
I.
C
Stand
corrected,
that's
good,
okay!
So
now
we
got
some
actions
already
going
on
on
that,
then
all
right.
C
So
the
other
item
on
the
outreach
program
was
the
trail
booklet
and
I
kind
of
leaned
on
bray
to
you
know,
support
you
know
the
the
text
part
and
one
of
the
things
that
in
the
town
website
and
everything
else
they
it
only
has
the
town
owned
properties
for
trails
it
doesn't
have,
it
doesn't
have
everything
together
and
the
parks
and
recs
department
has
agreed
to
support,
trying
to
pull
together
all
the
trails
pulled
from
all
the
different
sources
and
at
least
get
it
into
one
spot,
and
I
was
leaning
on
bray
to
provide.
C
M
No,
I
need
to
contact
parks
and
rec
just
to
over
with
mark
about
the
different
trails.
There
are
some
properties
that
future
trails
will
be
going
on
and,
as
it
turns
out,
the
king
property
there's
a
trail,
that's
being
developed
now,
so
probably
by
the
time
we
get
this
booklet
together,
the
king
property
might
be
able
to
be
placed
on
that
booklet
so
need
to
come
up
with
some.
You
know
a
few
sentences
about
the
history
of
that
particular
property,
for
instance.
So
it's
a
work
in
progress.
C
All
right
would
you
like
some,
create
a
subcommittee
and
get
some
help
from
other
commission
members
on
that
parade.
M
Not
right
at
the
moment,
you
know,
maybe
when
we
come
back
at
another
meeting
in
the
future,
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
I
need
to
talk
with
the
parks
wreck.
First
and
then
I
I
have
a
better
concept
of
of
what
I'm
doing
that
I
can
come
back
and
ask
for
help.
C
All
right,
I
think
both
kristen
and
mark
had
examples
of
stuff
that
had
been
done
other
places
or
was
that
it
was
that
you
ann.
I
think
that
was.
I
don't
remember
who
I
talked
to
now.
J
Well,
I
you-
and
I
had
a
meeting
about
it.
I
think
just
the
two
of
us-
and
I
mentioned
that
I
have
a
friend
in
california-
who's
done
a
lot
of
this
and
I
have
neglected
to
find
her
source,
but
she
had
they
have
a
professional
map
maker.
Who
just
does
this
all
day
long?
You
know
putting
together
compilations
and
local
maps
and
trail
maps
and
stuff
so
I'll
I'll
get
on
that.
K
C
Oh
well,
we
can,
if
you
want
all
right,
let's
move
along
the
next
item,
let's
say:
6
35.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
open
space
ordinance.
C
I
guess
I
know
that's
in
the
it's
in
the
agenda.
Let
me
get
rid
of
this.
I
think
it's
in
the
agenda
package
is
that
in
the
gender
package
cruise.
C
It
was
in
the
last
one,
it
was
the
last
one.
So
is
there
any
update
on
that
tom,
or
should
we
well.
D
I
took
I,
I
took
the
the
comments
from
our
special
meeting
that
we
had.
I
updated
those
and
I've
provided
those
back,
I
believe
to
both
bruce
and
and
you
and
I
I
knew
that
we
did
we.
We
didn't
potentially
put
it
on
tonight's
agenda
because
we
wanted
people
to
at
least
go
take
a
look
at
the
stuff,
and
we
knew
that
we
had
a
lot
of
other
stuff
on
the
agenda.
D
So
I'd
recommend
just
tabling
this
and
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
the
december
meeting
and
if
anybody
has
and
if
bruce
can
forward
that
out
I'll
take
any
additional
comments.
The
current
version
that
was
dated,
I
think,
on
the
27th
or
so
of
september,
was
a
real.
It
was
just
after
the
I
know.
I've
had
comments
and
requests
for
that.
D
Those
versions
from
from
gca-
and
we
did-
I
did-
provide
them
a
link
and
I've
confirmed
that
they
did
get
that
so
that
they
have
the
current
version
that
that
I,
that
was
based
on
the
comments
from
our
our
special
meeting
that
we
had.
But
at
this
point
I
I
don't
think
we
have
enough
time
tonight
to
go
through
all
that
stuff
and
we
really
don't
have
a
way.
D
I
don't
have
a
way
of
projecting
it
up
there
to
at
this
time,
but
they
the
the
link,
is
available,
and
I
think
if
we,
if
you
don't
have
it,
I
can
resend
you
the
link
and
then
if
it
could
be
forwarded
out
to
everybody
for
review
and
for
any
comments,
additional
comments.
And
then
we
can
review
it
at
the
and
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
the
december
meeting,
I
think,
would
be
appropriate.
I
C
A
I
will
I'll
check
to
make
sure
I
have
it
thomas.
I
have
a
feeling,
though,
if
you
send
it
to
me,
I
might
have
forwarded
it
out
to
everyone,
I'm
not
sure.
If
anyone
received
the
updates.
C
D
Well,
I
I
had
this,
we
had
the
special
meeting
and
that's
where
it
was
included
in
the
special
meeting
as
a
as
a
package
and
then
immediately
after
the
september
24th
special
meeting,
I
updated
it
and
then
I
thought
I'd
send
it
back
to
the
two
of
you
guys
for
forwarding
out.
But
then
then
I
in
discussions,
I
I
I
gleaned
that
tonight's
review,
because
of
all
the
amount
of
comments
that
we
had
back,
that
we
would
not
be
able
to
get
to
it
tonight
on
tonight's
meeting
has
come
out.
C
D
Yeah
and
I,
if
I
get
any
additional
comments
prior
to
the
to
the
meeting
and
in
issuance
of
the
next
package,
I
will
provide
an
updated,
but
as
of
right
now,
as
as
of
september
27th,.
C
All
right
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
is
a
stewardship
package.
We
chatted
about
a
little
bit.
D
C
Okay,
all
right,
the
next
item
and
I
did
send
out
a
working
document
which
is.
C
Section,
seven,
all
right,
so
you
should
all
have
this.
This
is
I
extracted
from
the
latest
plan
just
so
that
it's
here
and
then
we
could
sort,
and
one
of
the
things
to
do
is.
Okay
is,
for
example,
look
at
all
the
short-term
ones,
which
is
what
we
did
last
time
and,
for
example,
this
one
we
said
we
would
kind
of
do
some
of
this
stuff,
so
I'm
just
checking
at
the
timeline,
so
it
might,
you
know
I
think
it
might
be
appropriate
just
to
quickly.
C
We
got
maybe
10
of
these
to
go
quickly
through
here.
D
D
But
if
we're
taking
a
look
at
action
items
from
a
meeting
perspective
for
us
as
the
commission
here-
and
this
is
a
separate
standalone
document,
I
would
be
recommending
that
you
know
you
can
keep
the
short
term
column
there,
but
I'd
be
inserting
a
new
column
with
the
with
whatever
you
know
date
that
you're
looking
for
for
the
next.
D
The
next
step
is
due
by
and
who
the
response
rather,
the
generic
is
who,
on
the
commission
or
what
commission,
commissioner,
is
looking
for
to
do
something
or
what
commission
is
doing
it
and
we're
waiting
for
whoever
has
the
specific
action
and
with
the
and
with
their
due
date,
would
be
much
more
usable
documented.
I
think
at
this
point
well.
D
Get
this
is
good,
but
it's
also
who
has
the
responsibility
so
that
we
know
who
is
it
tom
olsen
or
is
it
larry
dunn
or
is
it
the?
Is
it
bruce.
C
D
Well,
this
is
this
is
the
original
generic
question
is:
is
is
this
the
currency
because
things
can
change,
but
particularly
when
you
have
multiple
documents,
multiple
commissions
and
stuff
involved
in
there
is
who's
got.
The
ball
is
what's
really
concerning.
C
So
so
we
can
add
in
you
know
individual
names
here
a
status
and
then
the
due
dates
in
terms
of
a
tracking
document.
So
that's
that's
fine,
so
I
got
no
problems
with
that.
What
I
would
suggest
is
I'll.
Just
click
save
that
with
today's
section,
which
is
this
eleven.
K
C
Okay,
so
what
I
would
ask,
then,
is
that,
as
we
go
through
here
is
I'd
be
looking
for
people
to
add
their
names
in
the
in
the
the
document.
Let
me
clear
the
filter
there,
so
we
have
every
one
of
them
all
in
here,
so
I
will
send
this
out
and.
C
Oh,
that
should
have
gone
here,
so
I
apologize
for
that.
So
that
should
be
here,
and
this
should
be
here.
That's
what
I
get
for
doing
sorting.
Okay,
so
that's
already
there
okey-dokey.
C
So
I
will
send
this
back
out
again
and
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
like
move
from
the
plan
side
to
the
execution
side
so
that
that's
kind
of
the
the
shift
we're
doing
we've
spent.
You
guys
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
getting
that
document
together
and
now
we
have
to
be
selective
on
it
all
right,
so
I
will
send
that
out
or
I'll
send
it
to
bruce.
Well,
I
know
I
guess,
as
a
as
a
staff
internal
document,
bruce
I've
been
sending
this
stuff
out.
C
That
is
something
that
even
a
regulatory
commission
can
do.
So
I
want
to
be
using
this
internally,
so
I
will
send
send
out
an
update
on
the
actions
all
right.
C
Having
said
that,
an
update
on
well
plastic
ordnance
update
pandemic
related
litter
stickers.
We
already
shared
the
sticker
so
kristen
any
any
additional
thoughts.
J
Yeah
I
just
wanna,
I
just
wanna
update.
We
have
a
little
posse
it's
liz,
eugenia
from
gca,
myself
and
well
chris
kuhn,
also
from
gca
and
we're
gonna,
be
we're
sort
of
making
a
game
plan
in
terms
of
reaching
out
to
businesses.
We're
gonna
go
to
them
with
talking
points,
see
how
they're
doing
with
the
ordinance.
If
it's
working
for
them
do
they
need
resources,
we're
going
to
try
and
compile
some
sources
for
them.
J
I
I
guess
eugenia's
been
in
touch
with
paige
bronk
and
gotten
a
few
resources
from
him,
but
just
kind
of
a
like
a
feel
good
here.
You
know
if
you're
you're,
a
supporter,
would
you
like
to
have
your
sticker,
so
that's
kind
of
in
hopefully
next
week,
we'll
be
out
distributing
the
stickers,
that's
kind
of
where
we
are.
C
All
right
any
questions
on
that
guys
could.
A
I
have
all
I
have
for
the
sticker
right
now
is
just
kind
of
a
picture
of
like
half
of
it
that
was
in
the
packet.
Is
there
anything
more?
I
can
just
send
it
out
and
just
like
economic
development
now
and
give
them
a
picture
of
the
sticker.
J
J
Everybody
would
have
one
by
now,
you
know
and
for
the
record,
I'm
gonna
spring
for
little
bumper
stickers,
because
I
want
such
a
great
graphic.
I
want
to
have
it
as
a
bumper
sticker,
because
it's
not
showing,
through
my
tinted
window
very
well,
so
we'll
all
get
some
so
I'll.
Send
you
either
an
email
or
a
actual
sticker.
K
C
K
C
H
A
J
I
think
they've
seen
it
as
far
as
I
know,
eugenia
has
been
perhaps
distributing
it,
but
I
will
I
will
get.
I
will
find
it
and
get
it
to
you.
C
A
Okay,
well,
let
me
I'll
send
out
the
sticker
and
and
ask
and
then
we'll
we'll
figure
it
out.
Yep.
C
Nope
that
that's
all
that's
my
only
request
just
is
just
to
ask
all
right
we're
now
moving
into
new
business,
so
seeley
school,
there
was
information
that
was
in
your
package.
I
think
it
up
there
and
moving
stuff
around
so
I
could
get
to
it.
K
C
So
that
so
I
get
so
the
I
guess
the
question
was
or
the
status
is.
This
still
is
a:
is
it
beyond
conceptual
or
is
it
like
conceptual
part
stage?
Two
bruce.
A
Well,
we
have
a.
We
have
a
wetland
application
there
now
that
it
looks
very
similar
to
the
to
the
plane
that
you
have
in
the
packets.
Here
we
had
a
site
walk
today
with
the
inland
wetlands,
commission
and
the
owner
and
a
few
of
their
engineers,
and
all
we
do
I
would
do-
is
walk
the
site,
observe
the
wetlands
and
kind
of
look
where
everything
was
going
to
line
up
and
yeah
that's
the
status.
A
Now
there
hasn't
been
any
decision
by
the
inland
wetland
agency
or
really
any
any
comments
by
the
agency.
Yet
it
was
just
kind
of
observe
it
and
I
think,
in
the
next
couple
of
months
they'll
be.
I
make
a
decision
on
that.
C
All
right:
well,
I
our
input
to
the
town
council
was
that
the
property
have
designated
and
protected
open
space,
that's
accessible
to
the
public
in
that
back
half
now.
Obviously,
the
wetlands
is
part
of
that
protected
space
and
it
was
hard
to
see
from
the
documents
they
sent
where
that
exactly
was
so
it's
not
necessarily
part
of
wetlands,
because
it's
more
planning
in
the
development
department
that
says
how
much
of
that
property
is
open.
C
L
C
Let's
see
how
much
do
I
want?
Is
it
zoom
view
zoom.
A
When
it
was
that
that's
the
wetland
portion
in
the
back
there,
so
you
know
I,
the
existing
school
is
proposed
to
be
demolished.
It's
it's!
It's
looking
in
pretty
bad
shape
if
anyone
hasn't
been
up
there
in
a
while,
it's
deteriorating
pretty
quickly.
So
the
idea
here
is
for
multi-family
development.
So
when
we're
talking
about
open
space
dedication
to
the
town,
that's
required
for
subdivisions,
but
there's
nothing
in
the
regulations
that
can
that
can
force
the
applicant
to
dedicate
any
open
space
for
a
multi-family
development.
A
Like
this,
I
don't
think
that's
in
the
plan.
What
is
in
the
plan
is
a
dog
park
that
is
proposed
in
the
back.
It's
not
on
this
plan,
though,
is
it.
A
Is
oh
there?
It
is
okay,
so
you
can
see
it
on
the
bottom
there.
The
dog
park
is
in
behind
the
building
behind
the
multifamily.
I
think
they
want
to
allow
public
access
to
that.
It's
not
it's
not
set
in
stone,
yet
by
any
means,
because
we
don't
have
a
cyclone
application
in,
but
that
is
kind
of
the
public
improvement
aspect
that
they
are
proposing
and
we're
supportive
of.
But
our
comment
as
planning
staff
is
going
to
be:
why
is
the
dog
park
located
so
far
in
the
back
there?
A
A
So
that's
going
to
be
our
comment
in
terms
of
you
know:
public
access
to
the
site
I
mean
so
I
mean
I
went
back
there
today.
It's
it's
really
thick
around
that
wetland.
It's
a
lot
of
briars!
It's
it's!
It's
wet
down
there
too,
in
the
depression,
and
you
know
just
you
know,
maybe
you
guys
know
better
than
me,
but
just
from
you
know
what
I
saw
in
kind
of
you
know
different
connections
to
open
space.
There's
really
not
too
many
opportunities
for
trail
connections
back
there
seeing
it
at
butts.
A
You
know
the
super
8
motel
route,
12
and
I-95
are
all
right
there.
It's
a
pretty
small
butlin
parcel.
You
know,
maybe
I'm
sure
you
guys
may
have
some
ideas
on.
You
know
where
you
can
connect
anything
or
what
the
use
could
be
back
there,
but
just
from
my
observation
state
it
looked
like
it
was,
it
was
limited
but
we're
pushing
for
public
access
for
the
dog
park.
You
are
certainly
welcome
to
make
any
recommendations
you
would
like.
A
I
can
pass
them
on
to
the
inland
wetland
agency
for
them
to
consider
in
their
in
their
approval
they'd
be
more
than
happy
to
have
one
of
those.
You
know,
I
think
that's
a
good
thing
for
you
all
to
do,
but
just
just
know,
there's
nothing
that
there's
nothing
in
the
regulations
that
requires
them
to
dedicate
anything
to
the
town.
For
this
application.
C
A
It
yes,
actually
it's
in
it
was
in
their
packet
that
went
out
a
couple
weeks
ago.
I
can
did.
J
Oh
yeah,
just
I,
I
walked
out
with
gca
like
months
and
months
ago,
and
it
didn't
seem
to
have
a
lot
of
it's
not
a
very
high
value
property
in
terms
of
open
space
because
it
is
completely
boxed
in
so
there's,
no
really.
There's
no
greenway,
there's
no
connection
there
that
the
best
it
could
be
is,
you
know,
maybe,
for
birds
to
have
a
little
pit
stop
from
wherever
else
they
were
going.
J
C
A
Yeah,
if
you
go
up
where
you
can
see
where
they're
so
that
that's
the
tree
line,
I
mean
they
are,
they
are
eliminating
some
trees,
they're
developing
a
lot
of
the
site,
but
if
you
go
to
the
plant
above
that,
you
kind
of
see
where
that
what
they're
proposing
back
there
and
they
are
proposing
to
not
touch
much
within
the
wetland
area-
oh
man,
yeah.
Actually
that
doesn't
show
anything
yeah.
This
is
this
is
conceptual.
It
doesn't
show.
A
Oh
there
it
is
okay,
so
they
are
proposing
a
drainage
basin
down
there
for
storm
water,
but
that
squiggly
line
you
see
is
is
the
tree
line,
so
everything
from
the
wetland
side
of
that
will
be
preserved
and
under.
A
Yeah
everything
from
there
to
the
wetland
will
be
preserved,
but
a
lot
of
that
area
back
there
is
going
to
be
used
for
that
drainage
basin
as
proposed
right
now.
M
A
M
Okay,
that's
because
you
kept,
you
know
your
open
space
spaces
in
the
questions
that
we've
had
on
about
this
and
I
didn't
know
exactly
how
it
was
being
handled.
Is
it
just
that
we're
having
a
discussion
that,
beyond
the
retention
basin,
that
the
rest
of
the
property
is
just
going
to
be
left
open?
Is
that
where
we're
going
on
this,
this
is
the
part
of
the
property
they
can't
develop,
so
they're
just
going
to
leave
it
as.
A
Yeah
I
mean
if
you're
asking
me
yeah
you
you
can
make
that
you
can
make
any
recommendation.
You
would
like.
M
I
think
I'm
asking
you
know
I'm
asking:
what
is
the
proposal
now
before
before
you,
so
the
town
is
not
acquiring
any
open
space
from
this.
That's.
A
Correct
yeah
and
when
I
was
saying
when
I
was
talking
about
the
dog
park
that
that
would
be
access
to
the
dog
park
that
that
that's
what
we
are
going
to
propose,
that's
what
we're
going
to
ask
for
and
but
that's
not
open
space
that
the
town
would
own.
That's
public
access,
easement
to
use
a
dog
park
portion.
M
Well,
the
easement
would
be
owned
by
the
town
and
the
owner
of
the
property.
The
the
town's
easement
would
be
it
in
which
they
specified
what
they
would
like
out
of.
It
would
be
attached
to
the
owner's
deed.
As
I
understand
it,.
K
A
D
This
is
tom
olsen.
One
thing
I
see
in
this
is
that
they
put
the
drain.
It
looks
like
they
have
to
clear
a
lot
of
this
area
out
to
dig
down
to
build
this
new
drainage
basin.
There's
a
contour
that
the
landscape
is
changing
in
that
last
diagram
that
you
have
up
here
right
now,
and
so
my
question
back
to
them.
D
As
far
as
from
in
our
tree
advisory
board
capacity
would
be
to
say:
hey
you,
you
put
the
drainage,
you're
gonna
go
in
there
construct
the
basin,
but
there
are
areas
in
here
that
can
be
recut
restored,
with
more
trees
and
stuff
to
recover
as
much
as
the
of
the,
because
you
don't
as
long
as
you
have
the
the
depression
in
there
in
the
in
the
around
that
144
142
lines
that
make
up
that
area
from,
but
everything
back
up
towards
the
dog
park.
Why
can't
you
replant
that
it'd
be
mike?
D
Why
leave
that
wide
open
is
where
it
is
restore
as
many
of
the
trees,
as
you
could
be.
My
only
comment
here
at
this
point
thanks.
C
All
right,
so
I
think
I
think
our
action
here
is
to
get
the
proposal
in
for
the
wetlands
and
to
construct
a
recommendation
letter
back
to
both
the
wetlands
commission
and
the
planning
department
on
our
input
right,
and
so
I
think
we've
got
some
with
the
was
between
the
trees
and
having
some
protection
of
the
wetland
areas
from
an
easement.
C
A
conservation,
easement
point
of
view
would
would
be
appropriate
all
right.
Let
us
then
move
to.
C
Oh,
there
was
a
late
breaking
one
that
came
in,
which
was,
I
guess,
back
to
plastics,
but
it
was
a
new
one.
M
M
Is
there
some
point
like
if,
if
we
thought
about
it
and
came
back
the
next
conservation
meeting
beginning
in
december,
to
have
comments,
for
you
know
inland
wetlands,
for
instance,
or
whoever
planning
or
the
comments
we're
making
right
now
to
you
is
sufficient
to
go.
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
was
going
to
suggest
that
so,
if
you
wanted
to
so
the
comments
you're
talking
about
now
are
sufficient.
If
you
make
a
motion
to
incorporate
those
into
a
letter
to
the
inland
wetlands
agency,
I
the
deb
jones,
is
working
on
this
problem
this
this
application,
so
I
can't
guarantee
they
won't
make.
I
don't
think
they'll
make
a
decision
on
this
in
november,
but
actually
they
won't.
A
So
your
next
meeting
you'll
have
time
to
make
a
recommendation
to
the
wetlands
agency
if
you'd
like
to-
or
you
can
do
so
tonight,
but
the
way
I
would
I
would
suggest
you
would
do
that
would
be
just
you
know
through
a
memo
and
just
some
comments
to
them.
Just
you
know
say:
please
take
this
into
consideration.
M
If
that
you
want
to,
let's
put
together
a
motion
about
thinking
about
in
the
between
the
drainage
station
and
the
dog
park,
that
they
might
consider
more
trees,.
M
To
tom
sorry,
I'm
having
difficulty
tonight
on
my
internet.
D
I
so
you
would
like
me
to
make
a
motion
to
for
the
recommendation
for
the
memorandum
that
the
the
our
chairman's
going
to
send
to
the
planning
department,
that
is,
a
co.
As
an
initial
comment
to
the
site
plan,
that's
proposed
that
they
would
incorporate
as
part
of
the
additional
tree
plantings
and
the
restoration
plans
that
are
that
need
notes
that
they
would
have
more
trees
planted
during
the
restoration
process
for
in
around
the
dog
park
and
in
the
and
the
retention
pond.
D
So
I
would
make
a
motion
for
the
that
that
be
included
in
the
memorandum
that
to
be
forwarded
by
the
chairman
to
the
planning
folks.
D
But
inlet
wetlands
is
reviewing
the
the
inland
wetlands
application,
but
this
would
be
in
the
site
plan
review.
There's
actually
two
things
happening
in
parallel.
If
I
understand
here
from
bruce,
you
have
inland
wetlands
doing
their
review,
which
really
is
the
is
the
area
nor
just
outside
just
in
the
upper
portion
of
what's
on
displayed
here,
they're
reviewing
the
the
the
the
whole
process,
because
all
this
the
dotted
lines,
those
thick
dotted
lines.
D
That's
all
the
water
runoff,
that's
coming
from
the
parking
lot
going
into
the
retention
area
and
then
the
pi
then
yeah
going
up
and
the
top
there's
another
dotted
line
going
out
the
top.
That's
where
the
stuff's
going
out
into
the
wetlands,
it's
going
from
the
126
numbers
down
to
the
118.
and
that's
what
inland
wetlands
is
taking
a
look
at
how's,
the
water
flowing
from
the
parking
lots
to
this
retention
facility
into
the
into
the
low
wetland
areas.
That's
what
inland
wetlands
responsibility
trees
don't
affect
that.
D
So
the
site
plan
review
that's
going
to
be
done
by
the
by
the
the
by
bruce
and
and
and
deb
jones
in
in
the
planning
department.
D
That's
where
this
would
be
applicable
for
our
st
our
statements
from
the
tr
as
far
as
from
the
tree
advisory
board
would
be
to
the
planning
department
and
how
they're
looking
at
like
he,
as
bruce
already
mentioned,
that
they're
already
looking
at
the
public
access
to
the
dog
park.
So
I
this
would
be
an
additional
item
to
that.
As
as
I
made
my
motion
for
it,.
A
Yeah-
and
I
don't
disagree
with
that
either
I
didn't
I
didn't
mean
to
just
say
that
I
was
kind
of
thinking
you
would
you.
The
conservation
commission
will
review
this
in
each
step,
so
I
I
wouldn't
suggest
that
you
just
make
one
memorandum
to
the
wetlands
agency.
I
would,
I
would
suggest
you
would
do
it
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
too,
when
site
plan
application
does
come
in.
So
it's
up
to
you.
If
you
want
to
review
it
once
out
the
door.
That's
it.
A
You
know,
one
memorandum
to
the
planning
department
would
spice
and
we
can
include
it
into
each
town,
each
board
that
reviews
it
or
you
can
do
it
individually
to
the
wetlands
agency
and
then
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission.
I
I
wouldn't
necessarily
say
that
trees
wouldn't
benefit
the
wetland
in
this.
A
In
this
situation
or
that's
outside
the
the
inland
wetlands
agency's
purview,
you
know
they
they
consider
all
that
they
are
responsible
for
everything
within
the
wetlands
up
in
the
river
area
and
discharged
into
the
wetland
and
trees
could
come
into
play
over
there.
But
tom
and
tom
is
right.
It's
more
that
tree
comment
and
the
dog
park
comment
are
probably
more
applicable
to
the
sci-fi
review.
A
Yeah,
so
so
tom
I
mean
I,
I
I
kind
of
shorthanded
it
here,
but
tom
made
a
motion
to
provide
a
memorandum
to
the
he
said:
planning
department.
I
wrote
down
iwa,
you
can
decide
which
way
you'd
all
like
to
go
with
that
to
provide
a
and
I've
raised
it.
This
way
to
provide
a
replanting
plan
of
the
trees
around
the
drainage
basin
and
to
provide
public
access
to
the
dog
park
and
make
the
dog
park
more.
I
I
said
accessible
to
the
public,
but
I
can
change
that.
K
C
All
right
all
right,
those
in
favor
one,
two,
three,
four,
all
right:
five
to
oh
vote
on
that
volunteers
to
take
a
crack
at
the
draft.
M
I
can
help
shoot
me.
An
email
bruce
can
shoot
me
an
email
if
he
wants.
K
K
K
D
Larry,
this
is
tom
olson
to
me,
it's
much
more
effective
that
this
was
coming
from
the
town
council
rather
than
the
conservation
commission,
and
I
know
the
town
council
is
very
supportive
of
this.
You
know
as
far
as
particularly
mayor
grantowski
she's,
I've
talked
to
her
about
this
issue
way
back
when,
and
so
you
know
as
because
this
is
a
legislative
move.
D
I
think
it's
better
coming
from
the
town
council
and
it
would
go
farther
and
so
what
my
recommendation
would
be
going
is
it,
as
is
talking
to
conrad,
hidy
or
mayor
krantowski.
As
far
as
to
see,
if
you
know
passing
this
to
them
and
says,
are
you
taking
action
on
this
or
d
or,
if
not,
then
we
would
take
something
out,
because
I,
I
would
prefer
not
really
waste
our
time
with
this.
If?
D
Because
this
thing
is
on
on
their
radar
already
and
that
they're
going
to
make
a
you
know
because
they
take,
they
normally
would
bring
this
up
at
a
committee
of
the
whole,
discuss
it
and
then,
and
then
put
an
endorsement
out
there
to
these
folks,
because
they've
taken
that
aspect
on
the
plastic
bags
and
stuff.
J
All
right
can
I
just
say
that
maybe
we
should
just
send
a
little
memo
to
the
town
council,
just
saying
we're
aware
of
this
and
and
supportive
of
their
efforts
in
this
direction.
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
idea,
christian
yeah,
just
nothing
that
we're
not
going
to
dig
too
deep
into
it,
because
you
know,
but
we're
behind
them
on
it.
K
C
So
that's
that
next
item
on
the
agenda
was
report
chair.
I
think
almost
everything
came
out
except
I
did
do
a
candle
with
walk
with
gosa,
but
that's
a
really
nice
nice
piece
of
property,
but
I
think
that's
being
led
by
them
and
so
it's
a
question
of
us
supporting
that
over
time.
So
that's
more
of
a
an
informational
input
to
you
guys
on
that
property
that
that
will
need
some
trail
work
because
you.
C
On
that
next
item
is
reporter
staff
that'd
be.
A
You
bruce
okay,
the
only
other
thing
I
have
that
wasn't
mentioned
is
the
so
the
plastic
ordinance
has
been
well.
I
guess,
after
the
hardship,
appearance
was
enacted,
it's
been
in
effect
since
the
beginning
of
october.
We
received
our
first
complaints
last
week,
but
other
than
that,
it's
been
very
quiet.
We
haven't
had
any
complaints.
A
I
don't
know
if
that's
because
there's
outstanding
compliance
out
there
or
if
there
we
just
haven't,
had
any
anyone
call
us
there
were
some
complaints
about
straws
being
passed
out
from
some
of
the
fast
food
restaurants
on
route,
one
not
all,
but
some
of
them
and
they
were
being
passed
out
without
someone
actually
requesting
one.
A
So
they
were
issued
a
a
warning
and
they're
going
to
be
followed
up
on
to
to
see
if
they're
still
doing
it,
they
provided
a
copy
of
the
ordinance
and
a
few,
a
few
didn't
weren't
aware
of
it,
and
they
they
were
thankful
that
we
kind
of
intervened
and
let
them
know
so.
That's
all.
I
have
to
update
on
that
and
yeah
other
than
that.
I
don't
have
anything
else.
K
K
B
K
K
C
We'll
we'll
understand,
what's
going
on
and
I'd
just
like
to
I'll
call,
you
do
you
have
some
time
tomorrow.
I
just
want
to
call
you
on
nailing
down
the
final
version
of
the
plan.