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From YouTube: Groton Conservation Commission 2/7/22
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting February 7, 2022: Conservation Commission. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/file/getfile/61134
A
All
right,
this
is
the
february
7
2022
town
of
groton,
connecticut
conservation,
commission
meeting.
My
name
is
bruce
lofgren
from
the
office
of
planning
and
development
services.
The
chair
of
the
meeting
is
larry
dunn.
This
meeting
is
being
held
on
the
zoom
virtual
platform.
If
any
members
of
the
public
would
like
to
speak,
they
can
do
so
during
the
public
communications
portion
of
the
agenda.
A
B
F
B
F
B
B
D
F
D
D
H
About
that
hi
eugenia,
hello,
everyone,
it's
nice
to
see
you
all,
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
take
up
very
much
time
here,
they're,
just
a
couple
of
things
that
I
wanted
to
speak
to.
First
of
all,
I
wanted
to
say
that
our
our
whole
group
has
received
a
copy
of
the
youtube
video
of
larry
dunn's
participation
in
the
economic
development
commission's
meeting.
When
was
that
february.
H
Yeah
and
on
data
centers-
and
it
was
absolutely
fantastic-
we
we
really,
I
I'm
we're
already.
You
know
getting
some
some
chatter
online
about
it
and
we
thought
you
did
an
excellent
job
with
that.
I
wanted
to
ask
you
a
couple
of
questions
about
that
about
more
information
that
we
would
be
interested
in,
like,
for
example,
for
example,
do
you
have
an
approximate
idea
of
how
much
power?
I
know
they
say
the
g
g?
H
B
H
H
Yes
and
the
other
item
had
to
do
with
the
open,
your
open
space
inventory,
I
of
course
have
been
on
that
inventory.
Looking
at
it,
as
you
know,
larry
you
know
trying
to
come
up
with
a
percentage
and-
and
I
was
just
and
and
and
I
was
at
the
the
last
meeting,
speaking
to
the
30
percent
goal
30
by
30
by
2030
gold.
H
H
The
kind
of
the
kind
of
things
that
that
you
know
conservationists
are
more
interested
in
and
seeing
added
up
toward
a
21
total
and
then,
if,
since
we're
already
at
21
it,
it's
only
we're
only
talking
about
nine
percent
more
and
I
didn't
really
have
time
to
figure
out
how
many
acres
that
is.
But
I
I'm
pretty
sure
it's
not
a
lot
of
acreage.
B
You
know
different
slices,
different
views.
I
think
there's
13
views
in
there.
You
know.
Is
it
worthwhile
to
have
something
else
for
it?
You
know
for
a
little
bit
different
purpose.
I
understand
where
we're
going
with
that
question,
but
we
there's
there's
other
ramifications.
We
just
have
to
be
a
bit
careful.
B
We
will
get
to
that.
I
want
to
give
a
little
bit
more
time,
I'm
going
to
then
go
out
with
a
follow-up
memo
to
ask
for
people's
formal
input.
I
would
like
those
in
writing
to
me
and
I'll
consolidate
them
and
then
have
a
discussion
on
what
we
want
to
put
forward
as
recommendations
to
I.t,
to
modify
change,
etc
right
different
than
action.
You
know
taking
action
on
any
of
those
different
slices,
so
I'll
leave
it
there.
B
So
if
there's
any
discrepancies
or
any
recommendations,
you
know,
certainly
you
know
feed
that
back
to
us
we'll
get
to,
as
I
said,
we'll
get
the
data
center
later.
I
I
appreciate
your
your
feedback
and
let
us
see
assuming
right.
Oh
the
objectives
in
section
seven,
so
I
did,
we
did
put
it
out.
I
did
get
feedback
from
half
three
of
the
the
members
and
I
did
consolidate
those
did
that
get
in
the
I'm.
Trying
to
remember
the
one
that's
in
in
here
is
that
is
that
yeah.
B
B
G
B
And
and
the
names
that
folks
volunteered
to
and
then
I
took
whatever
feedback
from
from
all
this
and
put
it
in
that
in
that
document,
as
I
go
through
here,
I
think
some
of
these
are
already
being
done
and
the
only
you
know
the
the
only
one-
that's
I
won't
say
new
kristen,
but
there's
not
specific,
ongoing
actions.
It's
not
a
continuation
would
be
the
pollinator
pathways.
B
B
I
think
in
the
natural
flow
of
what
we're
doing
in
the
action
plans,
we'll
kind
of
touch
on
these.
It's
more
of
a
question
of
emphasis,
rather
than
is
there
anything
here
we
want
to
draw
and
that's
my
take
on
it,
given
our
last
discussion
and
the
feedback.
So
you
know
my
my
view.
Is
it's
all
in
the
the
action
log?
B
B
B
So
you're
probably
gonna
have
to
follow
on
in
the
you
know
in
the
actual
agenda
handout.
I
think
the
couple
things
I
want
to
point
out.
If
you
go
through
this
list
and
I
kind
of
made
it
so
that
it
was
that
great,
so
I
changed
the
color
codings
would
be
easier
to
see
so
updates,
meaning
there's
a
change
in
status
from
our
last
meeting,
is
in
yellow
and
then
complete
as
green.
So
there's
one
green
one
on
here,
you'll
notice,
but
there's
quite
a
bit
of
yellow.
B
I
guess
so
my
point
being
kind
of
to
my
earlier
point.
We
are
kind
of
working
on
on
a
lot
of
these
and
I
think
that
you
know
the
intent
is
that
these
then
wind
up
to
be
line
item
on
the
agendas
as
we
go
forward
and
as
we
work
on
these
action
items,
and
then
this
just
becomes
kind
of
the
tracking
mechanism.
B
B
Line
items
as
topics
some
of
which
we're
actually
going
to
do
today
because
on
the
greenway,
the
yukon
project,
I'm
unprotected
parcels,
I
mean
there's
a
number
of
things
that
we
are
going
to
talk
about
today
and
we
may
not
talk
about
everyone
every
week.
So
is
that?
Is
that
agreeable
to
to
kind
of
proceed
on
that
basis?
B
G
F
F
B
Well,
with
the
new
members
of
the
council,
I
guess
I'm
not
sure
of
that
answer
anymore,
so
I
think
that
that's
an
inquiry.
You
know
that
we
will
have
to
go
with.
So
let
me-
and
unless
bruce,
do
you
know
of
anyone
on
the
council?
That's
kind
of
the
lead
or
the
sponsor
for
open
space
and
social,
social
justice.
B
B
A
B
B
We
did
define
and
took
initial
whack
at
it.
So
it's
really,
I
guess,
refining
that
or
using
the
inventory
data
against
those
definitions.
You
know
it's
certainly
the
the
place
to
start
and
now
that
the
viewer
does
have
a
city
versus
a
you
know
the
rest
of
the
town
split.
You
know
view
that
database.
Then
you
know
we
could
certainly
do
that
right.
F
Anything
else,
just
just
one
additional
thing.
I
did
also
look
at
the
city's
plan
of
conservation
and
development
and
I
didn't
compare
it
yet,
but
they,
it
seems
like
in
the
different.
This
goes
to
what
eugenia
was
saying
about,
how
you
define
open
space
and
they
said
that
they
had
16
percent
open
space
and
they
have
roughly
2
000
acres,
but
on
different
maps
they
had
different
things,
labeled
as
open
space
or
so
anyway.
B
B
Manage
recreational
et
cetera
so,
depending
on
how
you
want
to
do
that?
Second
slice,
you
come
up
with
different
numbers
which,
which
makes
this
whole
percentage
thing
based
upon
the
definition
you
want
to
use
right
back
to
your
genius
original
point
and
everyone's
going
to
have.
This
is
the
way
I'd
like
to
view
it
well.
B
B
B
B
I
I
made
it
pretty
yeah,
so
so
I
kind
of
put
this
together
based
on
michelle's
original
input,
and
you
know.
Obviously
this
needs
to
be
approved
by
the
commission
before
this
gets
published.
So
the
intent
was-
and
you
know,
as
it
starts
to
supporters
of
conservation
right.
That
really
says:
can
we
have
a
workshop
that
starts
from
the
stewardship
plans
we've
created
and
where
do
we
go
from
there
and
the
front
end,
as
it
just
says
here?
Is
we've
developed
the
management
plans?
B
And
basically
it
was
this
is
to
schedule
a
workshop
to
discuss
the
prioritization
of
parcels
requiring
action.
Now.
Last
time
we
did
say
that
the
birch
creek
set
is,
you
know,
is
the
one
we
were
going
to
prioritize
at
least
first,
we
did
have
a
required
actions
and
that
I'll
show
you
I'll
share
that
michelle
updated
that.
So
we
have
this
consolidated
action
log
by
parcel
and
which
I
think
would
be.
B
Well,
yeah
they
hand
out,
because
it's
right
yep,
it's
not
new
data,
it's
just
all
the
17
ones,
and
it's
just
not
in
that
one
list.
So
so
it
made
this
made
a
little
easier
to
look
at
here
are
the
things
that
we've
identified
right.
So
I
thought
that
would
be
a
good
add
to
this.
So
it'd
be
kind
of
a
an
ad
to
number
two
and
the
real
key
to
the
workshop
or
the
objective
of
the
workshop
says
now.
How
do
we
go
about
implementation
of
those
actions.
B
B
C
So
maybe
we
we
do
this
in
two
steps.
Do
do
come
a
first
one
like
that
to
sort
of
get
a
sense
of
of
you
know,
sort
of
refining
it
and
then
maybe
have
a
bigger
one
that
we
do
a
bigger
invitation
to
to
do
more
specifics
right
so
start
with,
like
the
the
known
people
and
and
just
three
of
us
kind
of
hash
out
some
of
this
and
then
have
a
more
fine
list
for
getting
because
we
we
want
to
get
a
lot,
we
want
to
get
as
much
support
as
we
can.
G
C
D
D
D
B
G
B
There
but
we're
gonna
send
invites
to
the
folks
that
are
in
our
you
know
on
our
website.
We
have
like
five
or
six
or
seven
different
groups
that
that
you
know
are
active
in
the
community.
It's
kind
of
a
workshop
at
that
level
with
just
a
subset
of
three
from
the
commission,
then
we
can
go
one
of
two
ways.
Then
the
next
step
would
be
a
full
commission
one.
B
You
know
so
that
we
can
review
the
results
of
that
and
get
agreement
on.
You
know
a
public
hearing
which
would
be
something
next
now.
No,
if
we
want
to
do
a
public
hearing
bruce,
is
that
something
that
we
as
a
commission
could
do
ourselves?
Do
we
need
some
formal
approval
mechanism
to
hold
a
public
hearing.
B
A
Well,
I
mean,
I
don't
know
if
you
need
an
approval,
I
mean
we
could.
We
certainly
have
to
put
on
the
website.
It
really
depends
how
you
want
it.
You
know
publicly
advertised,
I
mean
if
you
want
to
use,
you
know
the
town's
social
media
platforms
or
things
like
that.
You
need
approval
if
you
just
want
to
put
it
on
the
website
and
I
don't
advertise
yourselves
or
distribute
amongst
you
know,
you
know
some
stakeholders
and
people.
You
know,
then
not
necessarily,
but
either
either
way.
A
D
B
B
Yeah,
but
that's
true,
but
that's
different
than
where
get
gets
published
because
right
now
is
you're
like
new.
You
know
new
conservation,
news
kind
of
gets
only
on
the
conservation
website.
It
doesn't
get
on
the
front
page.
I
mean
the
compromises
that
we
did
to
get
the
website.
So
I
think
it's
one
that
says
number
one.
I
didn't
hear
anything
that
we
needed
pound
council
approval
per
se,
but
we
would
need,
let's
say
john
burt
or
john
reiner's
approval
to.
B
We
want
to
do
a
a
public
forum
to
discuss
stewardship
of
groton
town
of
groton's,
open
space
lands
and
or
the
city.
I
guess
we
could
include
that
and
do
it
in
conjunction
with
parks
and
rec,
and
just
have
that
as
a
non-binding
kind
of
a
thing,
information
gathering
and
I've
seen
parks
and
rec
do
that
on
a
number
of
things
then,
after
that
then
there'd
be
something
that's
a
little
bit
more
formal
depending
on
what
we
then
want
to
execute,
and
if
we
need
resources
beyond
which
we
can
tap
right.
B
Assuming
we
get
the
25
grand
in
there
to
use
that,
for
you
know,
for
the
stewardship
stuff
that
some
monies
you
know
is
that
the
cover
you
know
that's
kind
of
like
step,
three
or
four
to
go
back
to
the
town
council
per
se.
So
I
would
suggest
we'll
do
this
a
step
at
a
time
and
we
can
realign
as
we
go
so
the
first
step
would
be
a
smaller
group
with
the
three
members
with
with
minimum
bureaucracy.
B
B
D
B
F
C
B
B
E
C
Yeah
I
had
a
actually
had
a
list
of
my
suggested
people,
and
I
don't
know
I
can't
get
to
that
list.
So
it
was
all
it
was
ghosa
avalonia
the
conservation
advocates,
people
parks
and
rec.
I
had
the
whoever
that's
people
well,
I
originally
had
the
birch
plain
as
an
idea
side,
the
bridge
plain
people
and
then
whoever
from
the
districts
that
we've
already
talked
to
about
champions,
the
the
town,
council,
people
or
whatever,
and
then.
B
B
G
G
A
And
I
just
want
to
add
that
if
you
start
inviting
other
groups,
you
know
official
town
groups
that
you
know
also
go
by
the
same.
You
know
you
can't
have
a
quorum
rule,
then
you,
you
kind
of
need
to
emphasize
that
so
I
mean
okay.
So
let's
say
you
asked
you
know
the
parks
and
recreation
commission
I
mean
they
also
could
not
have
you
know
a
quorum
presence
because
then.
B
A
E
A
A
But
I
guess
then
it's
a
joint
workshop
at
the
council,
but
I
mean
it
seems
like
if
you
want
to
include
that
many
people
and
have
it
out
there
to
that.
Far
of
a
you
know
a
stretch
I
I
would
think
there's
no
harm
in
doing
a
special
meeting.
That's
advertised,
but
you
know
that's
just
then
you
don't
have
to
be
so
careful.
But
that's
just
you
know
my
advice.
B
All
right
so
so
noted,
although
I
do
like
it,
you
know
kind
of
walking
before
we
run
because
just
trying
to
get
folks
involved
in
this
because
each
one
of
these
other
groups,
most
of
them,
are
doing
some
stewardship
programs
on
their
own.
You
know
what
we
don't
want
to
do.
Is
you
know
kind
of
step
on
everybody's
different
toes?
It
tends
to
be
the
same
set
of
folks
that
are
volunteers,
all
right,
all
right.
So,
mr
christian.
D
It
might
be
good
to
just
have
like
sort
of
an
information
gathering
meeting
with
members
of
leads
a
lot
of
groups
just
because,
if
they're
already
doing
a
lot
of
stewardship
management
more
so
than
we
have
as
a
group
that
you
know-
maybe
that's
another
avenue
just
to
invite
them
to
a
small
group
meeting
with
two
or
three
members
of
the
commission.
Maybe
you
that
are
on
the
team
and
gather
information
from
them
before
you
give
a
workshop.
C
And
actually,
in
christian,
this
is
michelle
talking.
This
is
what
I
was
thinking
this
this
original
one
was
it's
mostly
to
pick
the
brains
of
the
people
that
already
do
this
and
and
say
hey
what
you
know,
what
what?
What's?
What
do
you
think
for
a
group
like
we?
Don't
we're
not
going
to
do
it
ourselves?
B
Yeah,
and
especially
the
point
you
said,
it's
not
try
and
pull
from
all
the
same
cool
people
right
because
it
does
it
does
we
don't
want
to
create
tensions,
we
want
to
create
synergy.
So
all
right,
I
I
think
I
I
know
enough
to
to
move
forward
on
so
michelle.
I
will
close
yourself
monday,
so
sometime
this
week,
michelle
will.
B
G
B
C
B
B
B
B
A
Well,
yeah,
the
way
the
way
it
works
is
our
department.
So
it's
our
budget
to
the
town
manager,
the
town
manager,
reviews
it
and
submits
the
town
manager
budget
to
the
council.
I
don't
think
the
town
manager's
budget
is
official
and
out
yet,
but
it
was
in
our
budget
proposal
to
the
town
manager.
He
will
consider
it,
but
I
I
don't
anticipate
that
being
something
that's
cut
from
the
budget.
B
I'm
thinking
of
just
dropping
a
note
to
john
about
gee.
We
just
went
over
our
22s
we're
talking
about
getting
stewardship
plans
together.
You
know
one
of
the
purposes
of
that
25k
would
be
to
support
the
stewardship
of
the
open
spaces
that
that
we
have
something
like
that
just
to
reinforce.
Perhaps,
although
the
other
flip
side
of
that
is
keep
our
mouth
shut
and
maybe
don't
take
any
attention
to
it,
because
that
is
a
small
item
in
the
in
the
town
budget.
I
mean
from
a
percentage
point
of
view.
Yes,
kristen.
B
It
doesn't
quite
say
acquisitions,
specifically
it's
it's
it's
somewhat
general
and
the
thing
is
25k
doesn't,
unless
you
spend
the
next
20
years
at
25k,
you're
not
going
to
be
buying
anything
right
and
the
the
willful
property
is
an
example
of
that,
where
it
was
what
800k
but
the
price.
I
know
with
a
little
bit
of
variation,
but
there's
a
considerable
chunk
and
it's
kind
of
an
effort
in
and
of
itself.
B
So
given
where
we're
at,
I
see
that
any
acquisitions
are
going
to
be
an
independent
effort
and
that
these
you
know
the
small
line
item
budget
we
want
to
do
for
conservation
works.
That's
that's!
That's
kind
of
my
fact
that
was
my
next.
My
next
discussion
point
here
is:
what
is
the
you
know?
How
do
we
want
to
spend
that
money,
and
I
thought
there
was
two
two
things
to
spend
it
on.
B
D
Again,
I
I
would,
I
would
like
to
bank
it
for
a
rainy
day
whenever
that
might
be,
and-
and
ideally,
if
that's
set
aside
for
acquisition,
then
at
some
point
you
know.
If
some
other
needs
you
know,
maybe
the
town
finds
something
else
in
the
budget
like
we
have
land
that
we
already
own
as
a
town.
It
needs
some
kind
of
maintenance
and
stewardship.
D
That's
got
to
be
in
the
budget
like
I
don't.
I
don't
think
you
should
be
using
the
open
space
fund
to
just
maintain,
because
how
how
would
you
ever
grow?
You
know-
and
I
get
a
lot
of
it's
really
expensive
and
it
will
take
more.
But
let's
say,
let's
say
a
big
grant
comes
down
the
line
from
the
state
and
there's
a
you
know.
If
we
can
raise
a
hundred
thousand
they're
gonna
give
us
another
hundred
thousand.
D
E
B
B
B
So
I
would
much
rather
we
control
that,
rather
than
than
taking
it
to
do
a
paving
of
a
of
a
parking
lot
someplace,
you
know
so
there's
always
the
danger
that
if
money
is
there
that
we
don't
get
any
control
over
it
right
versus
us
taking
control
from
the
get-go.
But
that's
just
me
all
right,
so
I
I'm
trying
to
decide.
Do
I
need
a
motion,
but
there's
seem
to
be
a.
B
E
A
A
A
You
know
stating
that
you
want
them
to
be
looked
at
and
it
kind
of
initiated
the
whole
process
of
you
know.
What
does
the
town
do
and
when
you
know
a
property
goes
bankrupt
to
the
town
acquires
it?
What?
What
is
the
process
for
determining
the
use
of
that
property?
Is
it
designed
for
schools?
Is
it
set
aside
for
public
works?
Is
it?
A
Is
it
determined
to
be
open
space,
so
that
exercise
was
was
helpful
because
the
town
looked
at
that
process?
But
what
I
did
here
was
I
looked
at
the
parcels
and
I
put
them
into
one
five:
different
categories
really
they're
acquired
through
foreclosure
or
purchase
so
they're
kind
of
unassigned.
Right
now
the
yellows
are
open.
Space
is
noted
in
the
deed,
so
it
is
open
space
and
it
should
be
updated
on
on
gis.
A
A
B
All
right,
no,
I
mean
that
that
that's
super.
I
mean
it's
exactly
what
we
wanted
to
understand.
Where
things
were
so,
I
think,
go
back
up
to
the
color
code,
the
legend,
so
I
think
my
thought
would
be
that
that,
yes,
you
published
this
to
the
commission
that
we
look
at
it
and
obviously
the
two
that
come
to
mind
is
the
the
yellow
and
the
green.
B
That
indicates
that,
by
the
way
we
need
to
update
the
records,
not
just
in
gis
and
or
the
inventory,
but
also
does
there
need
to
be
a
legal.
Does
the
town
council
need
to
take
formal
action
to,
I
guess,
put
it
in
legal
form
or
you
found
the
legal
form
we
just
didn't,
have
it
before
w,
which,
which
is
that
and
those
two.
B
So
so
the
I
think
yeah.
So
I
think
we
want
to
get
to
the
point
that
says.
The
thing
that
is
needs
to
be
actionable
by
the
town
council
would
be
the
green,
which
says,
provides
direction
for
the
town
attorney
to
provide
modifications
to
the
land
records
to
make
sure
this
stuff
is
there.
I
mean
I
mean
I
think,
that's
where
we're
going
with
this
right.
A
B
B
Okay,
good
all
right,
so
I
think
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
yeah.
Get
this
out
to
us
and
in
terms
of
follow-on
actions,
you're
right
is
is
clean
up.
You
know,
the
the
two
easy
ones
obviously
is
clean
up
the
records
that
need
to
be
cleaned
up
and
update
the
inventory
that
needs
to
be
updated,
and
I
guess
our
agreement
was
that
we
would
we
would
funnel
the
information
into
noaa.
B
We
didn't
get,
we
haven't
got
the
steady
state.
Yet
bruce
I
mean
is
that
I
you
know
that
where,
where
the
process
actually
works
so
that
the
land
records
get
changed
because
somebody
bought
or
sold
something
that
would
go
right
through
and
to
know
it
wouldn't
have
to
go
through
us.
I
think
we
initiated
this
and
I
noticed
it's
still
on
there.
It's
now.
He
changed
it
to
say
it's.
The
conservation,
commission,
viewer
versus
the
town
of
staff,
and
I
understand
the
politics
and
why
that
would
happen.
B
I
guess
yeah
it
could
be
yellow
and
or
green
to
to
fix
any
updates
in
terms
of
documentation
to
support
that
we
we
did
talk
about
a
new
process
and
procedure
earlier
on
foreclosure
or
purchase
and
how
that
would
go
through
and
that's
fine
all
right,
but
the
blue,
I
guess
the
blue
ones-
is
the
ones
that
were
it's
still
questionable
right.
The
open
for
I
needs
research.
I
think
that's
what
you
said
earlier
so.
A
G
B
E
A
Some
go
back
much
further
than
15
years,
so
so
this
list
here
came
from
from
your
research.
I
think
tom
did
most
of
it
and
you
you
guys
provided
us
this
list,
and
it
was
actually,
you
know
really
helpful
for
us,
because
we
found
some
errors
that
need
to
be
revised,
but
that's
the
reason
why
some
of
these
are
in
blue
need
research,
because
some
of
these
some
of
these
deeds
that
I
was
looking
at
you
know
they
haven't
been
changed
since
the
40s
or
50s
got
it.
So
I
mean
we
yeah.
A
B
All
right,
so
I
know
what
we
need
to
do
on
on
this
one
so
appreciate
you
sending
that
out
now
this
is
good
stuff,
and
this
is
exactly
what
you
know.
Our
intent
was
when
we
sent
it
over
to
you
guys
so
tell
the
staff
that
thank
you
from
the
conservation
commission
for
the
follow-up
they've
done,
and
I
should
probably
send
a
note
to
to
bert
to
for
that
recognition
as
well.
G
B
G
B
B
Put
aside
the
pricing
thing
for
a
moment,
that's
a
whole
different
discussion,
they're.
They
were
looking
for
a
little
support
on
the
funding.
So
you
know
what
I
said
is
well
unless
there's
deliverables
is
it's
not
worth
anything
and
we
have
no
upfront
what
the
deliverables
are
going
to
be.
So
I
started
messing
around
with
these,
and
I've
got
a
call
into
john
reiner
to.
B
Have
a
discussion
on
deliverables
and
what
the
town
would
be
interested
in
not
scheduled
yet,
but
I
did
tell
them.
I
want
to
talk
to
him
this
week.
So
this
is,
this
is
kind
of
where
I
was
at
is
first
was
an
emissions
inventory
which
says
between
the
vehicles
that
we
run
the
buildings
that
we
that
we
own,
or
at
least
on
waste,
related
emissions
and
there's
a
the
reference
article
in
here
is
the
whole.
B
What
should
be
our
greenhouse
gas
emission
objectives
over
the
next
five
to
15
years,
and
then
the
third
deliverable
would
be
what
actions
can
groton
do
to
reduce
the
emissions
to
compensate
and
offset
the
ignitions?
You
know
planting
more
trees,
for
example,
or
putting
more
solar
panels
on
rooftops,
and
then
the
third
one
is
neutralization
of
missions
was
doing
something
with
what
we
got
right.
You
know
scrubbers
on
you
know.
If
we
we
got
the,
I
guess.
Schools
have
a
lot
of
generators
and
things
that
they
they
admit.
B
B
B
C
G
B
B
I
have
no
idea
what
we're
putting
out
right.
We
want
to
get
down
on
20
tons
a
year
right.
How
do
you
do
that?
I
mean
so.
This
is
taking
the
next
level,
it's
kind
of
like
what
we
did
on
our
plan
right.
This
stewardship
plan
versus
actions
versus
execution,
so
we're
trying
to
get
down
to
the
next
level
versus
the
call-out.
I
view
what
what
zell
on
their
team
did
was
a
call
to
arms,
which
was
great
because
it
got
everybody
to
go
yay
verily.
We
agree
we
position,
but
there's
no
actions
right.
F
I
I
think
this
is
great
too.
I
I
seem
to
recall
in
some
of
the
task
force
meetings,
maybe
hearing
that
something
about
greenhouse
gas
inventory
that
groton
has
done.
So
it's
definitely
worth
checking
to
see.
If
that
what
has
been
done
and
utilize,
it's
also,
I
think,
part
of
what
the
new
hire
is
supposed
to
be
doing.
F
F
D
Yeah
I
I
seem
to
recall
that
I
heard
that
there
had
been
an
energy
inventory
like
an
energy
usage
study
done
in
the
town,
not
that
recently,
but
I
think
some
people
were
going
to
revisit
it.
Some
people
at
gca
I'll,
try
and
find
out
more
about
that
study.
I
I
think
was
you
know
at
the
time
they
were
trying
to
reduce
energy
use,
whether
it
was
by
light
bulbs
or
whatever,
but
that
might
be
a
jumping
off
point.
A
A
E
F
A
A
E
G
B
All
right,
so
it
looks
like
there's
general
agreement
that
this
is
a
good
direction,
needs
more
work.
I'd
like
to
look
at
the
information
that
the
town
has
already
done
and
then
work
with
town
staff.
That
said
this,
is
you
know
a
worthwhile
endeavor
that
the
town
would
embrace?
I
guess
that's
that's!
It
doesn't
do
a
lot
of
good
for
us
to
work
on
stuff
and
the
town
doesn't
accept
it
or
do
anything
with
it
or
whatever
right.
B
B
B
B
B
E
E
I
I
was
actually
looking
for
the
one
that
that
showed
the
490
open
spaces,
things
that
we've
were
using
as
we're
developing
the
plan
and
didn't
had
trouble.
Locating
them-
and
I
thought
it'd
be
nice-
that
if
we
had
one
of
those
maps
pulled
out
and
stand
alone.
But
if
you
wanted
to
click
on
it
and
just
orient
yourself,
you
could
do
that.
B
B
Know
in
in
the
open
in
the
conservation
and
the
viewer
in
that
online
viewer
right,
so
those
are
in
there
and
one
of
the
things
noah
was
adding.
Was
the
greenways
map
as
a
overlay
to
the
viewer,
so
the
intent
is
that
the
viewer
would
be
the
online
resource.
I
had
a
lot
of
discussions
about
when
that
goes
public
and
we're
we're
working
our
way
to
making
that
public
access.
B
However,
having
said
that,
if
you
want
to
extract
from
that
a
specific
picture,
I
don't
have
a
problem
taking
that
one
picture
putting
that
in
as
a
as
a
document
you
know
on
the
website,
we've
agreed
with
the
town
we
weren't
going
to
go
public
public
with
the
viewer
yet,
but
we
could
put
in
you
know
you
know
one
of
those.
You
know
an
extra
act
of
of
a
map.
So
if,
if
you
think
that's
that's
valuable,
then
I
my
suggestion
would
be
is
go
into.
B
B
Last
month
we
kind
of
did
some
tooling
and
throwing
with
the
town
and
what
we
what
we
couldn't
couldn't
do
so
like.
I
said
what
the
I
guess,
the
compromise
was
to
rename
it.
The
conservation
commission
viewer,
not
the
town,
official
town
of
groton
viewer
for
now,
and
given
that,
then
we
released
a
beta
to
the
conservation
groups
right
and
you
heard
eugenia
earlier
today
talk
about
that.
They
got
it
and
I
I
will
do
a
follow-up.
B
B
I
think.
Last
month
we
agreed
we
presented
and
agreed
on
the
definitions
to
add
in
those
have
been
added
in
so
if
you've
been
tracking
it,
it's
in
the
the
tab
way
to
the
right
about
about,
and
then
there's
two
tabs
there,
so
the
legends
are
now
described
with
definition.
So
we
get
this
whole
thing
about.
What's
the
definition
of
abc
that's
in
the
tables,
those
are
now
in
there
right,
so
that
that
was
done.
B
C
B
B
F
B
Oh
god,
who
the
hell
knows,
I
mean
I
I'm
guessing
this
is.
I
am
thinking
that
by
the
time
we
get
to
june
that
it
won't
be
virtual.
You
know
we
got
all
screwed
up
last
year
right
because
the
cold
war-
I
I
think
my
my
guess
is
the
assumption
is
from
what
I'm
saying
is
this.
This
is
going
to
be
going
back
to
the
to
the
good
old
days
where
you
actually
could
go
out
in
a
group
and
walk
a
trail.
F
B
D
B
B
G
B
G
E
G
B
B
B
So,
let's
send
link
to
bruce
and
there's
two
documents.
This
is
300
and
something
pages.
The
other
one,
which
I
thought
if
this
is
the
mou,
so
this
is
specifically
getting
into
the
nitty-gritties.
I
kind
of
highlighted
a
couple
of
things
that
you
know
in
terms
of
what's
going
on,
so
you
can
kind
of
read
it
here
ensure
adequate
long-term
protection
management
lands
in
waters,
including
with
the
boundary
in
accordance
with
the
book
of
laws
and
regulations
which
is
interesting.
Now
I
think
it's
54
000
acres
is
the
connecticut
nerve
reserve.
B
B
So
it
it's,
I
kind
of
thought,
because
we
kind
of
jutted
down,
we
might
have
a
little
more,
but
there's
just
they
really
went
deep.
The
closer
you
get
into
the
more
west
you
get.
I
guess
it
got
shallower
et
cetera,
so
it
seemed
to
have
more
area
that,
as
he
started
going,
you
know
past
east
line
and
over
to
the
connecticut
river.
B
B
B
G
B
You
know
with
with
I
guess,
john
about
what
role
if
any
the
town
of
groton
wants
to
have
with
the
you
know,
the
the
the
new
reserve.
That's
basically
the
whole
southern
end
of
canada
of
grant,
and
there
are
things
I
think
we
could
gain
from
it.
I
think
the
town
could
leverage
some
education,
research,
information
etc,
but
I
didn't
think
I
thought
about
it
and
you
guys
could
disagree
with
me.
I
didn't
think
it
should
be
a
conservation
commission
role.
B
E
E
E
E
E
E
B
Well,
I
think
that's
that's
the
point
is
how
does
one?
How
do
we
track
this,
and
I
guess
bruce
my
my
question
was
that
I
didn't
think
the
conservation
commission
should
track
it,
because
it's
either
money
flows
or
participation
in
grants
or
participation
in
programs
that
would
feed
data
into
the
sustainability
department
or
whatever
that's
going
to
be
called
rather
than
us.
So
I
I
guess
that
my
netizen
thing
was
to
you
know
to
give
you
an
action
to
at
least
raise
the
issue.
I
mean
I,
I
think
bray's
right.
B
This
is
a
slow,
moving
train
or
or
or
a
horse
and
drawn
buggy
whatever
that.
It's
not
we're
not
talking
about
this.
It's
it's
more
that
says
looking
out.
Is
it
something
that
would
serve
our
best
interest
in
the
long
term,
just
to
throw
ore
in
the
water
say:
hey
guys
when
you're
ready
to
talk,
you
know
we're
ready
to
participate,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
long,
we're
talking
a
year
years
of
activity,
effort
and
return
on
investment,
but
it
may
be
a
good
leverage
point
right,
given
you
know
where
we
are
and
etc.
B
So
I'm
just
throwing
it
out
there
is
that
sometimes,
if
you
get
in
there
early
with
very
small
participation
and
small
activity,
you
know
that
that
you
know
you
can
kind
of
leverage
things
that
you
couldn't.
If
you
kind
of,
then
what
happened?
You
know
people
have
already.
You
know
it's
already
passed
you
by.
B
B
It's
in
the
documents
that
I'll
I'll
send
you
the
links
to,
but
the
way
it's
the
way
it
was
structured.
Is
it
it
really
was
inviting
local
municipalities
to
participate
right
now
I
mean
the
brace
point:
what
the
hell
does
that
mean,
but
but
you
know
it
seems
like
it's.
It's
better,
at
least
to
say
is
you
know,
keep
us
aware,
keep
us
informed,
yeah,
we're
interested,
because
it's
our
shoreline
right
versus
you
know,
hey,
you
know,
do
whatever
the
hell
you
want
and
let
me
know
what
you've
done
after
you've
done
it.
B
B
All
right
so
now
we're
down
to
report
of
chair
okay
data
center
activity-
oh
god,
okay,
so
I
I've
had
meetings
with
now.
Let
me
preface
this
by
saying:
is
I
I
kind
of
went
forward
with
two
hats:
one
is
a
resource
to
the
town
is
a
guy
that
knows
a
lot
about
data
centers
and
the
other
one
is
as
chairman
of
the
conservation
commission
right.
So
you
get
you
got.
I
have
two
different
hats.
B
B
Then,
because
I
had
this
discussion
with
with
bill
gross
beforehand,
they
say:
let
us-
and
I
had
it
with
you
guys.
It's
a
let
us
form
a
joint
working
relationship
between
the
conservation
commission
and
the
edc,
because
what
we
want
to
do
is
make
sure
that
the
decisions
are
correct,
one
for
the
town.
B
B
They
have
two
ends
of
the
spectrum
and,
as
we
go
forward
with
this
process
and
I'll
give
you
my
view
on
the
process
in
a
bit
that
going
together
with
a
common,
hopefully
we
can
agree
with
a
common
position,
would
be
a
lot
more
powerful
in
front
of
the
town
council
than
if
we
went
individually
right
with
potentially
not
quite
aligned
objectives.
So
we
had
agreed
upon
that
in
our
last
meeting.
Edc
agreed
upon
that
their
last
meeting,
then.
So
the
question
is
okay.
Now
what
do
you
do
next?
B
A
B
Yeah,
no,
I
did
see
that
on
the
agenda
for
tomorrow,
so
I
just
I
just
so
I,
as
I
kind
of
said
guys,
let's
not
get
too
excited
about
this-
there's
a
long,
long
process
to
go
through
and
there's
so
many
different
depending
on
what
they
want
to
build
and
how
they
want
to
build
it.
It
has
dramatic
impacts
on
the
environment.
I
mean
eugenia
talked
about
how
much
water
they
consume.
I
don't
know.
Are
they
using
reclaimed?
Reused
water?
Are
they
going
to
take
so
you
flush
it
through
their
system?
B
You
know
it.
It
depends
right,
solar
farm.
I
do
have
one
answer
for
her.
I
think
when
I
calculated
out
it
was
like
260
megawatts
of
power
that
they
were
using,
which
means
that
you
need
about
a
thousand
acres
of
solar
farm
in
order
to
power
that
well,
we
don't
have
a
thousand
acres
to
unless
we
put
it
right
on
top
of
the
nerve,
we
have
5
000
acres,
so
we
got
a
lot
of
anchorage
there,
but
it's
kind
of
like
well
that
ain't
going
to
fly.
B
I
mean
you
know:
you're
not
going
to
get
the
power
from
solar
right,
so
there's
there's
so
many
unknown
questions
I
just
I
can't
get
that
excited
about
it
until
such
time
is
that
there's
a
real
proposal
where
we
can
ask
real
questions,
and
that
was
my
response
to
john
burton
when
he
said
hey.
Could
you
give
me
some
questions?
B
I
said
I
don't
want
to
bother
giving
you
questions
because
there's
no
real
proposal
all
right
give
a
real
puzzle,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
come
in
and
provide
you
know,
support
to
the
town
and
and
whatever
advice
and
counsel
I
could
give,
and
what
the
hell
to
ask
right
these
new
guys
who
were
then
me.
Yes,
ann.
F
F
F
B
Order
to
do
that,
you
have
to
declare,
I
want
to
develop
those
data
centers,
and
so
they
signed
an
agreement
with
the
towns
groton
being
one
of
them.
That
said,
if,
if
we
build
a
data
center,
we're
the
guys
that
are
going
to
build
it
and
we
get
the
tax
credit
and
we
tie
that
up
for
36
months,
I
think
it
was
36
months
all
right
all
right.
So
that's
that's
what
it
is
kind
of
like
it's
talking
about
development
rights,
right
people.
B
B
F
B
The
state
came
and
said:
would
the
town
go
into
agreement
with
these
guys
see
we
want
to
have
data
centers
built
right
and
if
you,
when
you
read
the
contract,
there's
no
real,
there's
no
liability
to
the
town.
There's
no
commitment
to
actually
do
anything.
It
says
saying
hey!
If
we,
if
you
know,
if
you
want
to
do
something,
yeah
we're
willing
to
do
it
with
you,
but
there's
so
many
things
that
have
to
be
done
before
that
it
doesn't
really
it
doesn't.
F
B
B
A
Yeah,
I
wouldn't
expect
any
new
plans
or
proposal
or
anything
like
that
tomorrow,
but
honestly
they
have
not
talked
to
the
town
at
all.
So
whatever
everyone
hears
tomorrow
will
be
new
to
us
too.
So
I
mean,
and
if
they
haven't
been
talking
to
us,
it
probably
means
they
don't
have
many
details
to
ask
us
specific
questions.
A
E
A
B
That's
what
it
sounded
like,
at
least
in
the
paper
was
active,
adult
community
smaller
scale,
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
So
I
you
know
again,
you
know
sometimes
you
gotta
let
this
stuff
play
out
before
everybody
gets
their.
You
know
everything
all
tied
up
in
the
short,
so
don't
get
excited,
you
know,
don't
get
nervous
we'll
we
got
a
long
ways
to
go
on
this
one.
B
The
other
thing
is
all
right,
so
the
annual
the
the
annual
review
memo
which
you
approved
last
time,
was
released
to
the
town
manager
and
forwarded
to
the
town
council
way
we
left
it
is,
if
you
guys
want
us
to
come
in
and
talk
to
you.
Let
us
know
we
didn't.
We
didn't
request
time
on
the
agenda,
that's
kind
of
what,
where
we
left
it
and
that's
where
that
is
the
wolfbrook
stewardship.
I
did
send
that
letter
out
with
the
stewardship
agreement.
I
did
get
feedback
from
mark
barry.
B
I
did
not
get
feedback
from
gosa
mark
made
the
comment
following
points
he
wanted
to
take
flanders
road
out
as
it
make
that
as
a
separate
parcel
plan
he
wanted
to.
Well.
I
guess
part
of
this
was
bruce
to
the
point
we
talked
earlier.
Let's
make
sure
we
got
the
the
deeds
and
the
rights
et
cetera,
all
sorted
out
right,
which
is
the
yeah.
B
Now
I
will
point
out
that
there
are
discussions
to
kind
of
create.
You
know
we
have
gosa
and
avalonia
there's
a
few
other
conservation
or
ownership
groups
is
to
consolidate
that
as
a
regional
conservation
management
and
take
over
professional
management.
If
you
will
for
stewardship
that
all
these
different
parties
are
part
of
that's
in
the
early
stages,
that
would
be
interesting
as
well,
because
that
would
kind
of
give
a
different
scale
to
this
whole
thing.
B
So,
there's
a
number
of
things
going
on
in
this.
In
this
area
I
mean
it's
all
good
news.
I
think
it's
all
kind
of
moving
in
the
right
direction.
It
would
be
great
if
there
is
a
trail
steward
position.
Now
we
got
somebody
to
work
with
right,
so
that
just
came
in
friday.
I
think
so.
That's
that's
fresh
news.
B
So
that's
that's!
That's
why
I
mentioned,
even
though
the
letter
didn't
say
that
is
that
this
kind
of
prompted
me
to
say
gee,
we
should
be
more
look
at
a
more
formal
participation
with
parks
and
rec
it'd
be
great
to
do
that
jointly
with
the
trail
steward
person
all
right.
So
that's
that
then
I
attended
the
bike.
Pedestrian
meeting
tom
olsen
normally
attended
that
I
kind
of
backstopped
them.
B
There
wasn't
a
lot
going
on
there.
They
did
talk
about
trying
to
get
more
formal
and
getting
a
kind
of
a
city
plan,
for
they
talked
a
lot
about
pedestrians,
cars
and
bikes.
You
know
you
know
how
those
things
go
together
and
co-exist
as
you
go
through.
What
do
you
change
with
roads?
A
lot
of
things,
not
a
lot
of
discussions
on
what
I
would
call
our
kind
of
prime
objectives.
B
So
I
don't
have
any
actions
or
follow-ups
or
to-do's
from
that
session
other
than
you
know
that
they're
they're
kind
of
working
through
that
and
portions
of
the
you
know
crosstown
trail
and
those
other
things
are
going
to
be
in
that
where
I
would
say,
coexisting
with
with
bikes
and
cars.
So
I
think
that
part
of
it
is
obviously
of
interest
to
us.
B
B
B
A
A
That
is
bids
are
due
by
the
end
of
this
month.
So
we
should
interview
and
and
have
the
consultants
on
board
mid-march
to
to
start
the
process,
and
then
you
know
shortly
after
that-
we're
probably
going
to
start
holding
some
some
public
workshops
and
what
will
certainly
include
you
and
invite
invite
the
commission
at
that
time.
A
D
Just
regarding
the
plastic
issue-
remember
chris
kuhn
gave
us
a
presentation
last
week
about
the
fact
that
walmart
and
cvs
in
particular
are
handing
out
these
really
thick
heavy
plastic
bags.
They
want
to
meet
with
me
tomorrow
to
begin
to
rewrite
the
ordinance
that
we
passed,
and
I
thought
I
know
bruce.
You
were
involved
in
drafting
the
ordinance
and
I
think
that
the
objective
is
to
change
the
wording
of
the
thickness
up
to,
I
think
12
mils,
which
is
kind
of
environmentally
recognized
by
groups
around
the
area.
D
E
G
D
Yeah
those
those
things,
those
permanent
ones-
yeah,
I
I
don't
know
the
thickness
of
those,
but
those
are
thicker-
the
ones
they're
giving
away
at
cvs
and
walmart
are
sort
of
under
the
wire
they're
over
four
mils.
I
don't
know
the
specifics
of
the
size,
but
they're
they're
not
as
thick
as
that
they're,
not
you
would
never
pay
for
one
of
those
they're
giving
them
out
free
and
they're,
giving
them
to
everybody,
and
it's
it's
instead
of
the
lightweight
little
bags
that
they
used
to
give
now
they're
giving
out
these
really
heavy
duty
monster
bags.
B
D
B
G
B
So
it's
it's
pretty
thick
and
I've
used.
You
know
reusable
bags.
I've
had
them
for
10
years
now
same
set
of
bags,
so
it's
these
will
not
last.
These
bags
will
not
last
a
month.
I
would
say
I
think
that
they're
they're
really
stretching
it.
That
says
that
the
last,
but
if
you
give
them
away
for
free
people,
aren't
going
to
save
them
and
bring
them
back
to
the
store
and
reuse
them.
So
so
I
think
we
we
supported
that
last
at
our
last
meeting,
kristen.
So,
okay.