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From YouTube: Groton Conservation Commission 3/1/21
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Conservation Commission - March 1, 2021. Click on the link to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/file/getfile/49708
C
This
is
the
conservation
commission
meeting
on
march
1st
2021.
The
chair
of
the
meeting
is
larry
dunn
for
all
the
attendees
in
in
attendance.
If
you'd
like
to
speak
during
the
public
communications
portion
of
the
agenda
do
so
by
raising
your
virtual
hand,
you
can
do
this
by
hovering
your
hand
at
the
top
of
the
screen
or
the
bottom
of
the
screen,
depending
on
your
device
and
if
you're
on
a
phone
you
can
press
star
9.
B
H
G
G
There's.
This
would,
of
course,
be
a
statewide
ban
on
these
things,
which
would
be
terrific.
It
doesn't
go
as
far
as
groton,
but
it's
a
great
start,
and
one
of
my
concerns
is
it's
possible
that
one
of
our
own
delegation
may
work
in
opposition
of
this
bill.
So
if
if
the
conservation
commission
speaks
out
for
it,
then
groton
conservation
advocates
will
of
course
send
testimony.
G
B
C
B
B
B
B
I
think
that's
the
right
one.
So
if
I
look
at
this,
so
if
you
recall
this
was
the
the
spreadsheet
that
was
sent
to
mark
berry
and
it
was
from
work
that
that
a
lot
of
work
that
tom
did
and
bruce
helped
phil
and
phil
help
tom
fill
in
some
of
the
blanks
at
the
end.
So
we
now
have
this
full
list.
This
is
a
subset
for
parcels
over
three
acres
that
have
do
not
have
an
assigned
stewardship
responsibility
by
by
the.
B
B
H
E
E
E
E
B
Well,
mark
barry
indicates
that
parks
and
rec
has
had
said
on
that
property.
For
example,
they
do
not
have
a
plan
or
doing
anything.
Now
it
may
be
that
a
he's
incorrect
or
b
it
could
be.
Someone
else
is
doing
that
activity
right.
So
I
guess
the
thing
is:
is
that
we've
kind
of
narrowed
it
to
these
and
we've,
you
know,
got
to
do
some
research
and
if
it
turns
out
that
yeah
somebody's
doing
it,
maybe
it's
the
neighbors
or
maybe
parks
and
rec
is
doing
it
and
he
didn't
know
about
it.
B
F
B
E
E
We
don't
have
access
to
that
particular
property
at
this
time,
as
as
long
as
the
town,
I
guess,
is
using
it
in
its
current
usage
sometime
in
the
future.
They've
always
put
that
particular
piece
of
property
aside,
as
will
be
open
space
simply
because
it's
it
is
a
site
of
a
closed
dump
site,
and
you
can't
do
anything
with
it.
But
right
now
I
believe
up
on
top
or
somewhere
around
it
they're
actively
composting.
E
D
I
said
michelle,
I,
I
agree
that
it's
worth
starting
with
the
bigger
properties-
and
I
also
think
you
know
obviously
ray's
got
a
lot
of
information
on
these.
We
should
at
least
document
everything,
so
even
so
it
could
be
that
that
the
wells
road
property,
the
the
so-called
plan-
is
just
the
documentation
of
that
process,
but
but
we
should
at
least
document
everything
on
these
larger
parcels
and
decide
what
else
to
do.
B
All
right,
I
think,
I
think
what
I
heard
is
we
have
these
eight
parcels,
some
of
which
are
adjacent
as
a
starting
point,
to
probably
not
to
probably
but
to
do
some
level
of
documentation
or
analysis
and
suggestion
about.
Does
it
need
stewardship?
I
guess
that's
the
first
question
right
and
then,
if
so,
what
and
do
we
recommend
that
parks
and
rec's
do
something
or
is
it
another
another
approach
to
to
handling
it?
B
B
B
B
I
guess
I
crashed
the
website,
I
don't
know,
but
it
it
it's.
The
documented
resources
page
went
south
and
then
the
entire
town
site
went
down
and
I
guess,
as
we
speak
right
now,
I
think
they're
trying
to
do
a
reboot
of
the
thing.
So
I
guess
I'll,
let
you
know
because
a
lot
of
things
we've
been
working
on.
We
intend
to
post
there
right
and
it's
kind
of
hanging
in
limbo.
We
can't
get
to
it.
B
B
I
expect
within
another,
probably
two
months:
they'll
have
the
trail
systems
in,
and
this
is
again
with
volunteers
plus
park
and
rec
they'll.
Have
it
the
signage
up
they'll?
Have
it
posted
et
cetera,
so
I
think
it
makes
a
good
story
of
how
the
community
works
together
with
the
town
staff
and
so
we're
trying
to
document
that.
So
that's
the
status
of
that
the
next
two
items
on
I
should
I
should
shut
up
and
ask.
Are
there
any
questions
on
that
activity
that
I
mentioned.
B
So
the
thought
was-
and
I
guess
I'll-
throw
this
out
for
discussion
to
take
those
elements
out
of
the
ordinance
which
talked
about
what
you
can
and
can't
do
on
a
property
build
those
into
the
workbook
such
that
as
we
come
up
with
a
stewardship
plan
on
a
per
parcel
basis,
we
can
say
yep.
These
are
the
standard
things,
but
on
that
one
yeah
you
can
do
hang
gliding.
I
mean
I
not
saying
that
is
a
as
a
suggestion,
but
just
as
an
example.
B
B
B
Thumbs
up
for
michelle
thumbs
up
thumbs
up
thumbs
up
okay,
so
that
the
the
path
forward
then
would
be
to
table
the
ordinance
at
this
point,
focus
on
the
stewardship
like
I
said,
which
goes
in
concert
with
the
example
of
those
eight
parcels,
and
that
would
help
kind
of
flesh
out.
You
know
the
stewardship
workbook
and
then
circle
back
with
parks
and
rec
and
kind
of
join
up
on
that
accreditation
and
then
once
we
get
through
that
process,
we
can
come
back
and
visit
whether
or
not
an
ordinance
is
required
or
necessary.
B
B
B
H
B
Here's
the
memo,
okay.
So
as
a
result
of
our
last
meeting's
discussion,
we
did
come
out
with
the
nip
survey
and
the
recommendation
to
the
town
council,
and
this
is
the
letter
that
was
put
together
so
kristin
that
yeah.
That
was
good
right.
You
you
did
the
initial
draft
of
that.
I
think,
is
that
yep
okay.
B
B
in
terms
of
a
litter
problem
and
a
65
35
on
you
know
highly
supportive
or
somewhat
supportive
and
based
upon
that,
you
know,
we
suggested
that
they
support
the
bill
and
there
were
three
bills
by
the
way
that
the
there
were.
Some
of
the
bills
were
for
illinois.
One
of
the
bills
was
for
elimination
and
other
bills
was
for
putting
a
tax.
If
you
will
on
the
nips,
so
we
suggested
just
getting
rid
of
it
figuring.
B
You
start
off
at
that
end
and
we'll
see
what
happens,
but
that
that
was
submitted
and
put
in,
and
I
don't
think,
there's
there's
no
additional
work
because
we
weren't
suggesting
the
plastic
ordinance
in
the
town
be
updated,
but
just
since
the
state
was
pursuing
it,
then
let's
see
what
happens
at
the
state
level.
First,
any
questions
or
comments
on
that.
B
Let
me
cycle
back
to
what
liz
brought
up,
which
is
this
bill
6502
I
went
through
and
I
highlighted
a
few
things
so
real
briefly
and
and
given
that
the
was
it
the
third
or
the
fourth
is
when
that's
being
discussed.
The
third
and
today
is
the
first,
so
we've
got
to
make
an
instant
decision
so
I've
here's
the
process
here,
guys,
here's
the
bill.
I've
highlighted
the
pertinent
areas
and
I've
got
a
suggested
memo
drafted
to
see
if
you
guys
agree
or
disagree.
B
B
B
B
Can
there
be
a
single-use
produce
bag
that
is
biodegradable,
but
that
seemed
not
an
unreasonable
thing
to
do
because,
as
you
know,
even
though
we
prohibited
plastic
bags,
there's
still
plastic
bags
in
the
produce
department,
right
and
or
the
I
guess,
the
meat
department
right
so
there's
still
that
set
there.
So
that
seemed
like
a
useful
thing,
then
it
that
just
was
more
on
the
the
compostable
single-use
bag,
and
that
was
it
it
wasn't.
There
wasn't
a
lot
of
stuff
in
here,
so
what
I
then
hold
on.
H
B
B
This
bill
is
in
line
with
and
expands
the
groton
town
ordinance
293,
which
is
single-use
plastic
and
polystyrene
regulations
to
include
limiting
schools
for
use
of
polystyrene
trays,
and
I
I
didn't
say
anything
about
surface
I'm
sorry.
The
next
statement
was
a
ton
of
ground
already
has
an
ordinance
limiting
single-use
plastic
bags
and
straws
supported
by
over
70
percent
of
the
citizens
of
the
town.
B
H
B
H
A
A
I
think
you
need
to
replace
that
semicolon
with
either
an
and
or
a
witch
which
which
which,
in
the
this
in
the
summit
the
semicolon
in
the
second
paragraph
after
plastic
straws,
you
have
to
say
either
instead
of
semicolon,
you
just
say
and
or
the
town
of
god
already
has
an
ordinance
limiting
single-use
plastic
from
plastic
straws
and
or
which
there
you
go.
That's
better.
A
I
H
H
D
D
F
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
anything.
That's
been
said
here,
I'm
just
a
little
concerned
that,
as
do,
we
have
a
sufficient
authority
within
our
direction
as
the
conservation
commission
to
be
essentially
making
a
statement
for
the
town
to
the
state.
I
you
know
as
an
individual.
We
can
go
in
and
talk
to
the
to
the
state
on
this
public
hearing.
But
I
don't
know
this
kind
of
gives
the
impression
that
that
the
town
of
groton
is
supporting
this.
E
B
G
Yeah,
oh
good,
thank
you
so
larry!
I
thank
you.
Unless
I'm
reading
it
wrong,
you
missed
one
on
page
two
line:
27
number
three
where
it
defines
single
use,
can
paper
blah,
blah
blah
container
made
of
expanded,
polystyrene,
etcetera
and
then
online
35
beat
one.
It
says.
No
owner
or
operator
of
a
restaurant
or
catering
business
shall
provide
or
distribute
a
single
use
container
to
a
consumer.
G
B
H
B
A
J
J
H
B
B
A
B
Yeah
yeah:
that's
why
I'm
not
I'm
not
too
worried
about
it,
but
thanks
thank.
We
will
thank
liz
for
bringing
this
to
our
attention
and
I
apologize
for
the
short
turnaround
time,
but
it
did
need
to
get
done
tonight
all
right,
so
I
will
take
care
of
that
stuff
and
man
we're
just
we're
just
booking
along
tonight.
B
We
had
said
that
we
were
going
to
do
a
follow-up
on
the
effectiveness
and
the
I
guess
the
acceptance
of
the
ordinance
with
another
survey,
but
I'm
I'm
kind
of
thinking
that
this
should
be
something
that
we
do
in
the
fall
rather
than
trying
to
do
it
in
any
recent
time,
and
I
guess
there's
two
questions
a
given.
We
had
said
we
were
going
to
do
it.
B
A
I
it
sounds
like
make
work
to
me.
I
haven't
heard
anything
about
any
issues,
any
complaints,
any
problems,
so
you
know
do
we
pester
people
with
surveys?
You
know
if
there
was
some
kind
of
controversy
or
challenges
to
it
or
anything.
Maybe
it
would
be
important
to
check
in
with
everybody,
but
I
don't
know
it's
necessary.
F
The
only
question
I
mean
is
you
know
we
had.
There
was
the
lady
that
ran
the
dunkin
donuts
and
I
remember
her
was
very
passionate
yeah.
I
don't
know.
If
should
we
just
like,
covertly
or
whatever
or,
however
you
want
to
say
it
go
in
and
talk
to
her
and
see
if
she
has
any
issues
that
we
need
to
be
bringing
up,
because
I'm
just
not
aware
of
any,
I
haven't
heard
any,
and
hopefully
things
have
been
worked
out.
Well
with
her
too
just
some
of
the
follow-up
issue.
A
B
C
I
I
haven't,
I
I
don't
receive
all
of
them,
but
I
do
talk
to
the
code
enforcement
officer.
Quite
often,
he
didn't
specify
dunkin
donuts.
He
specified
some
of
the
fast
food
restaurants
along
like
route
12
there
and
route
one
but
you're.
Not
here,
don't
they
must
have
found.
You
know,
cardboard,
cups
and
alternative
straws.
C
I
did
notice
just
from
me
going
out
to
the
some
of
the
fast
food
restaurants,
the
way
they're
getting
around
the
buy
request
only
on
straws,
but
they
do
they
put
something
up
on
the
takeout
window
and
says
you
know
straws
by
request.
Only
so
people
see
that
and
they
say
oh
can
I
have
a
straw
and
pretty
much
they
get
a
straw
every
time.
That's
what
I've
noticed,
but
it
in
compliance.
If
he
works.
B
J
A
B
H
A
J
A
We'd
have
to
research
those
dates
because
we
gave
we
gave
we
presented
to
the
rtm.
They
are
the
town
council
and
I
feel
like,
and
then
we
have
that
the
economic
board-
oh
yeah,
the
economic
board,
but
that
wasn't
really
such
a
presentation.
That
was
so
it's
really
the
town
council
in
the
rtm
and
they
were
back-to-back.
C
H
B
J
B
B
I
guess,
the
the
field,
and
I
can't
remember
what
they
were
called
the
the
committee
that
looked
at
additional
fields
and
they
were
recommending
going
with.
Well,
it
wasn't
specific
how
many
fields
on
artificial
turf-
and
there
was
objections
and
the
gca
asked
if
the
conservation
commission
would
support
it,
they
got
to
us
got
to
meet
like
the
day
before
the
town
council
meeting.
I
said
it
was
insufficient
time
for
me
to
call
a
meeting
with
you
guys
and
therefore
we
could
not
have
a
conservation
commission
position
on
it.
B
I
said,
but
I
offered
that
if
the
town
council
so
directed
us
that
we
would
provide
support
or
weigh
in
on
the
issue
at
that
time,
council
meeting,
it
was
basically
tabled
that
that
it
was
too
early
to
address
one
way
or
another.
It
was
mentioned
in
there
the
offer
you
know
the
conservation
commission.
I
have
not
been
formally
or
informally
approached
for
us
to
do
anything.
B
I
did
some
preliminary
research,
as
you
might
guess,
on
the
life
cycle,
cost
of
plastic
turf
and
not
to
bore
you,
but
really
quick.
Netted
out
is
depending
on
who
you
look
at
we're
generation,
three
of
plastic,
turf
that
the
two
issues
that
seem
to
be
in
conflict
is
the
people
supporting
plastic
turf,
talk
about.
B
The
second
thing,
that's
not
included
in
the
cost
benefit
analysis
is
the
disposal
of
the
turf
after
10
years,
because
it's
got
like
a
10
year
cycle
and
these
wind
up
to
be
rolls
of
2
000
pounds
of
material
and
it's
about
60
dollars,
a
ton
minimum
to
dispose
of
them
and
you
gotta
have
a
place
to
dispose
of
them.
That
causes
something
there
so
that
at
some
point,
if
we
ever
get
asked
for
this,
you
know
we
have
to
look
at
guys.
B
Let's
look
at
the
total,
you
know
the
total
life
cycle
and
all
the
elements
of
it.
Not
just
you
know
d
during
that
10-year
period.
Forget
this
and
oh
I'm
going
to
assume
that
we're
going
to
get
30
40
more
use
out
of
the
field,
because
I
don't
have
to
let
the
you
know
the
real
grass
recover
a
little
bit
between
usages.
J
I
wanted
to
add,
I
don't
have
it
at
my
fingertips
tonight,
but
I
had
started
to
go.
I
had
started
right
after
our
last
meeting
doing
some
research
and
the
thing
that
came
up,
that
the
item
that
came
up
again
and
again
was
the
cost
and
the
ability
to
get
rid
of
it
after
eight
to
ten
years,
which
seemed
to
be
the
life
span
of
the
artificial
church,
including
the
latest
generation,
and
the
data
that
I
was
coming
up
with
was
saying.
There
are
two
places
in
the
country
that
actually
are
taking
it
right.
J
Now
one
is
in
the
south,
I
believe
it
was
south
carolina
and
the
other
one
was
somewhere
in
the
midwest
and
both
of
those
places
had
to
ship
it
to
malaysia,
because
it
was
only
malaysia
taking
it
and
the
cost
was
prohibitive
and-
and
that
was
just
preliminary
data
that
I
came
across
and
I
I
do
have
the
website
and
the
information-
I
just
don't-
have
it
available
tonight.
So
it
is
an
important
consideration.
B
A
D
H
D
B
B
You
know
for
quote
artificial
turf
and
that
folks,
that
have
done
some
research
can
throw
their
articles
and
research
in
there.
So
I've
got
a
bunch
karen
mentioned.
She
had
some
so
and
we
can
at
least
throw
him
in
there
and
then
we'll
see.
If
and
if
and
when
I'm
sorry
we
get,
we
get
asked
to
weigh
in
or
we
decide
we
want
to
weigh
in
right.
Even
if
they
don't
ask
us
so
excuse
me,
I
thought
I
would
I
give
you
a
a
quick
update
on
that.
B
E
Two
weeks
ago
I
was
in
rotten's
walmart
checking
out,
and
I
noticed
that
lots
of
people
were
not
bringing
recyclable
bags,
but
using
theirs,
and
as
just
as
I
was
about
to
check
out,
a
clerk
came
up
somewhere
else
over
to
the
first,
the
cashier
and
said
so.
We
have
to
charge
10
cents
on
these
bags,
so
apparently
walmart
for
quite
a
period
of
time
hasn't
been
charging
10
cents
per
bag.
E
To
do
it
and
I
kind
of
understand
that
with
covid
and
how
things
have
changed,
but
the
state
obviously
wants
to
get
their
nic
their
dime
out
of
this,
and
this
person
was
running
around
to
every
cashier
and
making
sure
that
remind
them
that
all
of
a
sudden
going
forward,
because
I
guess
the
state
maybe
came
to
walmart
and
said
okay.
How
many
bags
did
you
end
out?
Where's
our
money.
B
B
B
B
This
is
a
multi-year
pursuit,
it's
supposed
to
complete
in
december
of
this
year,
and
it
basically
allows
connecticut
to
be
included
in
the
national
effort
and
share
in
some
funding
and
it
centers
approximately
some
about
the
connecticut
border
with
rhode
island
through
kind
of
a
little
past
old
saybrook.
That's
the
area
of
the
of
the
reserve.
B
The
value
to
it
is,
I
think,
in
terms
of
data
collection,
on
water,
height,
changes
gets
into
activities
and
other
things
not
a
lot
for
us.
I
thought
it
had
more
to
do
with
the
sustainability
task
force
than
with
us,
and
I
did
make
that
suggestion
to
zell
and
he
kind
of
said
he
didn't
think.
So.
He
thought
that
the
town
staff
should
do
it,
so
so
it
was
kind
of
up
in
the
air
a
little
bit.
B
I
had
then
come
back
and
and
communicated
that
I
didn't
think
it
was
appropriate
for
us
to.
You
know,
try
and
get
involved
in
that
fairly
significant
effort,
and
I
will
be
honest
with
you
having
sat
through
the
meetings,
they
have
their
process
that
you
know
we
can
kind
of
reap
the
benefits
of
it.
Without
you
know
a
lot
of
active
participation,
that
was
my
view
right
in
terms
of
you
know,
what's
going
on
there,
so
I
think
it's
a
worthwhile
objective.
B
I
think
it
will
help
us
get
us
information
and
it
provides
education
and
training
and
support
which
would
be
useful,
but
it
didn't
seem
to
be
something
close
to
us
most
of
these
offshore
stuff
and
we're
ten.
We
tend
to
be
focused
on
on
on
land
stuff
right,
given
the
nature
of
the
work
we
do.
I
know
so
I'll.
Just
throw
that
out.
There
I
mean
any.
Does
anyone
have
any
view
on
that?
Especially
bray?
B
I
think,
is
your
that's
kind
of
in
your
neck
of
the
woods
since,
since
you're
you're,
your
organization,
connecticut
college
on
the
point
is
the
is
a
sponsor
of
it
for
the
reserve.
I
can't
remember
the
right
terminology,
but
they're
they're,
knee
deep
in
it
and
are
sponsoring
the
whole
reserve
effort.
F
There's
been
a
number
of
people
that
have
been
involved,
such
as
simma
evans.
Who's
on
the
rtm
is
also
involved
in
their
through
uconn
with
them,
and
so,
if
you
know
we
just
see
opportunities,
I
think
we
just,
I
think,
we've
done
enough.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
say
any
more
than
what
we've
just
this
last
five
minutes
that
that
you
outlined
here-
and
I
don't
know
if
fray
has
any
more
to
add
to
that.
But
that's
my
opinion
on
it.
Thanks.
E
Great
right,
the
only
thing
I
have
to
add
is
that
at
some
point
this
spring
they're
looking
at
their
timeline
a
little
while
ago.
After
these
workshops,
they
were
going
to
put
together
some
sort
of
a
working
document,
a
draft
that
they
were
going
to
put
out
to
say
this
is
how
we're
going
to
move
forward,
and
so
I
was
waiting
for
that
to
come
out.
Also
the
organization
where
I've
worked.
My
career
is
looking
to
be
their
educational
component
connection
between
outreach
and
school,
the
schools
and
the
students.
E
E
B
B
B
I
speak
for
the
rest
of
us,
we're
not
exactly
experts
in
in
that
in
that
field
and
they're
all
phds,
and
you
know
long-term
folks
that
have
have
worked
it.
So
I
think
that
that's
finally,
that's
that's
great.
I
don't
have
any
problem
with
that.
So
that's
how
we'll
go
forward
on
the
nerve
thing
now
there
was.
B
There
was
a
motion.
I
will
point
out.
There
was
a
motion
and
a
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor,
the
act
on
behalf
of
the
town
council
and
sign
on
to
the
connecticut
coalition
for
sustainability,
materials
management
and
et
cetera.
I
kind
of
switch
gears
here
on
you,
so
that
was
that
was
past
seven
to
nothing.
B
B
B
B
It
just
commits
to
working
to
get
loops.
I
think
it's
right
here
right
here,
you
know,
share
experiences.
Think
creative
me.
You
know
that
I
mean
it's
a
pretty
generic
stuff,
nothing
specific!
Let
me
put
it
that
way,
so
it
doesn't
sign
up
the
town
of
ground
anything
any
specific
other
than
yeah
we're
interested
in
the
reduction
of
of
waste,
which
I
think
given
up,
given
what
we've
discussed
in
the
past.
Everyone
here
agrees
with,
so
I
just
thought
I
would
share
that
with
you.
H
A
H
B
B
B
B
B
16.7
acres,
it
okay,
so
you
can
see
this
is
this
is
the
free
canopy
in
the
back,
and
this
is
the
school
property
here,
and
this
is,
you
know
it's
commercially
zoned,
although
there's
there's
a
housing
here,
but
it's
commercial
here.
So
as
I
look
through
it,
let
me
let
me
share
with
you.
I
did
the
I
did
the
economic
model
on
it
and
it
turns
out
that
pleasant
valley.
B
Yeah
I've
been
keeping
track
of
the
analysis
we've
done
and
if
you
remember,
we
started
with
no
wang
school
which,
which
interestingly
turned
out,
they
have
a
pretty
a
pretty
good
economic.
This
is
per
acre,
you
get
down
to
pleasant
valley
and
because
of
all
that
development
and
the
school
property,
that's
there
is
actually
pretty
low
right
in
terms
of
a
per
acre
average
value,
and,
as
I
looked
at
it
is,
I
kind
of
my
take
was
that.
B
That
the
conver
it
seemed
like
a
commercial
development
of
the
front
half
and
if
one
could
retain
a
conservation
easement
to
keep
the
tree
canopy
in
the
back.
Half
you
know
was
a
reasonable
compromise
given
where
it
was,
but
I
wanted
to
throw
it
out
to
you
guys
to
see
if
what
your
thoughts
were
and
should
we
weigh
in
at
the
april
6th
public
hearing
open
for.
E
E
F
Yeah
my
I
concur
with
bray.
I
I
just
see
some
value
to
the
to
the
tree.
Camping.
That's
all,
and
just
I
don't
know
the
problem
I
see
is.
I
don't
see
a
consistent
way
with
how
the
planning
commission
works
with
the
with
these
builders
and
stuff
to
say
that
we
want
to
have
as
much
canopy
as
we
can.
I
don't
know
bruce.
C
I
can't
really
speak
to
the
rp
process
in
terms
of
you
know
whether
they
ask
questions
about
the
tree
canopy
or
other
things
like
that,
because
I'm
not
really
involved
in
that.
But
you
know
when
this
proposal,
or
you
know,
if
there's
a
pros
or
any
proposal
that
goes
in
front
of
the
planning,
it's
owning
commission,
I
mean
we
follow
the
domain
regulations
and
where
the
subdivision
regulations,
I
mean
this
probably
won't
be
a
subdivision,
but
you
know,
there's
always
you
know
requirements
for
buffering.
C
You
know
vegetative
buffer,
particularly
if
you
know
if
this
ends
up
being
a
commercial
use
and
there's
residential
areas
nearby.
You
know,
and
if
once
you
get
into
you
know
a
multi-family
development
or
something
like
that.
I
mean
we
do
look
for
you
know
making
sure
we
have
space
for
recreation.
We
have
open
space
and
some
you
know
items
that
would
be.
You
know
an
amenity
to
the
development,
but
in
terms
of
specific
pre-canning
protection.
No,
we
don't
have
that
in
place
right
now.
C
B
All
right,
I
think
I
think
what
I
heard
was
to
let's
say
as
well.
One
of
two
approaches:
one
is
just
to
provide
our
input
to
staff
or
two
is
to
provide.
You
know
a
little
more
formally
at
the
public
hearing.
That
says
you
know,
here's
our
point
of
view
so
which
which,
which
approach
do
you
guys
prefer.
D
Right
so
this
yeah,
this
is
michelle.
I
based
on
what
I
and
I
I
trust,
both
tom
and
bray's
opinion
on
this,
because
if
they
thought
this
needed
to
be
cared
for
more
than
this,
I
think
they
would
have
said
something.
I
agree.
I
think
that,
based
on
that,
we
should
just
work
with
the
staff.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
input
to
the
public.
B
A
Yeah,
I'm
just
questioning
whether
you
know
we
have
gone
to
a
lot
of
effort
to
sort
of
put
ourselves
in
the
loop
and
make
criteria
and
and
to
want
to
be
part
of
the
process.
So,
if
somebody's
going
to
be
at
that
meeting
anyway,
would
there
be
harm
in
just
a
very
short
statement.
You
know
not
a
big
investment
of
a
big
presentation
or
anything,
but
just
to
keep.
You
know,
make
sure
that
we
are
relevant.
We
are
consulted,
we
you
know
rather
than
just
being
silent.
They
know,
like
you
know.
B
F
I
I
would
tend
to
agree
with
with
kristen
that
I,
whether
it
be
a
physical
thing
or
we
could
actually
send
in
a
little
email
memo
that
would
be
read
as
part
of
the
into
the
record
for
the
public
hearing.
That
way,
you
could
prepare
it
in
advance.
If
you
make
the
media,
you
can
read
it.
If
you
don't
it's
there,
it's
my
recommendation.
D
Well,
yeah,
I
I'm
not
I'm
not
opposed
to
that.
I
was
just
trying
to
save
us
some
work,
but
I
get
you're
right.
It's
worth
at
least
weighing
in.
If
the
weighing
in
is
you
know
we
we
don't,
you
know,
we
basically
don't
see
any
reason
to
to
push
on
this
property
that
the
town
should
be
able
to
develop.
You
know,
sell
it
for
development.
I
think
that's
what
we're
saying
right.
H
B
B
Okay,
well,
I
think
that
right
away,
that's
that's
four,
four,
four,
some
form
of
formality.
Let
me
put
it
that
way
and
I
think
it's
it's
positive
for
us
to
keep
ourselves
there
that
we're
not
just
there
going
everything
we
look
at
is
is
open
space
right,
we're
trying
to
be
balanced.
That
says,
what's
the
right
decision
for
the
town,
but
I
do
want
to
stress
the
fact
you
know
I
I
left
whoops.
B
Is
retaining
the
tree.
Canopy
is
something
that
even
though
it's
not
in
the
in
the
ordinance
or
in
the
zone
or
anything
like
that,
is
to
make
that
a
point
so
that
it's
front
and
center
and
I
think,
there's
a
sensitivity
and
a
support
of
that
within
the
town
council,
at
least
from
what
I've
heard
in
the
past.
Okay
c,
I
can
write
up
something
on
it.
B
B
B
B
B
All
right
share
again
go
back
to
this
okay,
so
they
presented
the
resiliency
and
sustainability
task
force
presented
it.
They
asked
for
some
specific
recommendations
on
a
let's
see.
Let
me
get
to
it
here.
I
guess
this
is
the
key
of
it:
adopt
a
resolution
addressing
climate
change,
resiliency
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
on
it.
I
think
my
net
was
people,
although
being
supportive,
but
they
weren't
quite
sure
what
a
resolution
would
mean
other
than
just
a
wave.
Your
arm
yeah.
F
Listened
to
the
entire
thing
and
at
the
very
end,
the
last
moment
they
they
did
approve.
If
you
go
down
to
the
bottom
of
the
next
page,
they
did
keep
going
okay
right,
there
you're
going
too
far
page
two
bottom
of
page
two.
Okay,
these
help
they
agreed
to
to
work
with
the
sustainability
task
force
to
develop
a
resolution
that
focuses
on
these
three
items
was
the
bottom
line.
There
was
a
final
motion
that
was
agreed
to
and
passed
that
they're
going
to
develop
a
resolution
focusing
on
these
three
items:
okay,.
B
B
All
right,
I
I
think
this
is
one
of
these
watch
this
space.
So
in
terms
of
the
the
sustainability
position,
there
was
no
job
description.
That
was
kind
of
my
comment.
Offline
at
the
end
was
where's
the
job
description
I
mean.
How
can
you
approve
something?
If
you
don't
know
what
they're
going
to
exactly
do,
but
tom.
F
On
the
job
before
you
go
off
and
put
money
to
you
waste
time,
developing
a
job
subscription,
you
need
to
get
the
budget
put
in
place
and
that's
what
the
town
manager
said
was
that
in
the
in
his
town
manager,
budget
submission
to
the
town
council,
he
has
put
in
the
funding
for
that
position.
So
once
that
position
gets
through
the
budgetary
process
this
year,
then
they'll
go
forward
and
start
developing
the
working
with
the
resilience
task
force
to
put
a
job
description
together.
F
I
can
tell
you
right
now
that
informally,
zell
and
the
task
force
have
have
gotten
a
similar
position
from
other
locations
and
have
that
readily
available
for
for
the
town
council,
but
to
provide
to
the
town
manager
and
to
and
to
the
deputy
manager
to
to
put
together
and
then
once
that's
approved
as
in
the
budget,
then
they
can
come
forward
and
to
say
hey,
and
so
it
would
be
after
the
approval
of
the
budget.
Probably
in
the
may
time
frame
is
when
they
would.
You
would
see
that
go
forward.
I
I
just
have
yeah,
it
seemed
like
at
first
they
were
trying
to
prioritize
the
three
items
and
then,
at
the
end,
the
task
force.
Folks,
I
can't
remember,
I
think,
was
victor
and
zell
came
back
and
said:
actually
we're
not
really
asking
you
to
prioritize.
These
are
our
priorities
that
we
want
you
to
work
on,
and
I
also
agree
with
ray
that
drinking
water
seemed
to
be
health
and
drinking
water
seem
to
be
the
council
members.
I
I
guess
I
was
curious
to
know
if,
if
this,
the
the
documents
that
we
have
in
our
packet
and
that
were
in
the
packet
for
the
town
council,
that
that
night
are
those
the
the
final
and
reports
from
the
task
force,
it
seemed
like
the
health
and
the
human
health.
One
was
a
little
more
extensive
and
referenced
versus
the
other
two
sections,
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
if
some
of
that
is
available
to
us
as
well
as
like
the
presentation,
I
guess
we
could
go
back.
B
Yeah
I
talked
to
yeah,
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
discussed
is
how
does
one
post
the
information
and
I
think,
councilman
superior
said
he
would
like
to
post
their
results
on
the
town
website.
I
talked
to
zell
after
the
meeting
and
offered
him.
You
know
the
conservation
commission
web
pages
to
do
that.
B
His
view
was
they
really
didn't?
Have
a
formal
or
sufficient
detailed
report
that
he'd
want
to
publish
yet
okay
he'd
talk
to
the
task
force
and
work
on
it,
so
I
kind
of
made
the
offer
to
provide
a
channel
if
you
will
for
that,
but
I
think
what
you
saw
is
what
you
got
in
terms
of
their
formal
output.
I
I
thought
there
was
more
as
well,
but
I
guess
there's
not.
H
I
I
So
one
of
the
things
that
they
have
in
there
is
that
every
department
incorporate
climate
sustainability,
resilience
etc,
but
and
from
the
discussion
that
they
had
at
the
town
council
meeting
it
sounded
like
they
wanted
to
wait
until
they
had
hired
the
sustainability
or
senior
climate
person.
Whatever
the
title
is
going
to
be
so
that
that
person
could
work
with
each
of
the
departments.
I
B
All
right,
the
other
thing
to
think
about
is,
as
we
kind
of
went
through
this,
that
there
are
two
bills.
I'm
gonna
share
again:
lucky
you
all
right,
there's
two
bills
and
bruce.
I
don't
think
I
sent
this
out
right
I'll
have
to
no,
I
didn't
send
these
out,
but
there's
there's
two
bills:
six,
six,
four
four
one
and
bill
882
dealing
with
climate
change,
adapt
adaptation
now
guys
I'll,
send
this
out,
but
there's
there's
a
lot
of
stuff.
B
These
are
big
bills,
not
like
some
of
the
ones
which
are
like
three
sentences,
there's
stuff
in
it.
I
did
go
through
and
again
highlighted
stuff,
but
number
one
is,
and
this
is
the
one
where
it
came
up.
Oh,
I
know
why,
because
andre
lomgard
mentioned
it
in
the
town
council
meeting
on
this
topic
about
a
buyer's
conveyance
fee.
B
But
all
right,
one
of
the
things
that
this
says
is
to
have
a
in
my
interpretation,
is
that
that
the
town
would
be
allowed
to
create
a
new
commission
with
extraordinary
powers
to
oversee
anything,
that's
going
on
in
the
town
in
regards
to
climate.
You
know
the
effects
of
climate
change,
flood
migration,
climate
resilience
and
frozen.
I
mean
it
was
like
holy
moly.
This
was
a.
This
was
a
fairly
major
activity
which
I'm
sitting
here
going.
How
is
this
supposed
to
be
implemented
right.
B
I
just
I
just
think
this
is
this
would
totally
change
the
game
now.
Obviously
the
town
would
then
have
to
buy
in,
but
the
state
provides
a
framework
to
take
extraordinary
actions
in
this
space
right.
So
my
suggestion
here
is,
let
me
send
this
out
and
it
can
be
on
the
topic.
So
you
guys
can
look
at
this
for
your
net
for
the
next
meeting,
so
I'm
going
to
say,
distribute
bill
whatever
it
was.
B
B
And
had
this
discussion
and
get
we
get
your
take
on
it,
but
I
thought
it
was
was
it
was
an
oh,
my
god
I
you
know,
I
don't
know,
and
there
wasn't
any
funding
for
it
other
than
it
had
a
lot
of
power.
All
right.
This
new
commission
would
have.
You
know
it
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
power
in
there.
There's
there's
yet
another
one
which
is
not
as
dramatic.
B
there.
It
is
the
mission
bills
882,
sorry,
it
was
a
whole
different
document,
so
you
saw
how
long
that
one
was,
and
this
one
jet
this
one
says
we're
going
to
get
to
10
percent
below
the
level
emitted.
1990
you
get
the
zero
percent
carbon
emission.
You
know
by
2040.,
there's
another
pretty
big
and
expansive
bill.
B
So
now
I
I
don't
know
the
odds
of
some
of
this
stuff
passing
is
questionable,
given
the
kind
of
the
enormous
you
know
breadth
of
these
things,
so
I
I
thought
I'd
throw
those
out
there.
I
don't
think
I
see
this
having
something
in
the
short
term
having
any
impact
on
us,
but
just
to
let
you
know
what's
going
on
at
the
state
house
in
terms
of
these
two
areas
in
terms
of
zero
carbon
emissions
and
sustainability,.
B
B
So
I
think
you
guys
remember
this.
The
green
stuff
is
stuff
we
completed
so
so
real
quick.
We
actually
completed
some
things
and
you
know
what
I'm
what
I
would
like
this
to
do
is,
and
some
of
the
things
we
did
today
is
to
kind
of
keep
this
current
as
kind
of
our
project
plan,
if
you
will
kind
of
sort
of,
but
as
we
go
through
here,
is
to
maybe
have
sponsors
from
us
on
these
items,
I
only
put
the
short,
short-term
and
near-term
ones
on
here.
B
B
B
E
F
F
F
I
think
it
was
this
morning
that
I
saw
that
that
they,
you
can
still
go
on,
put
they'll
support
having
the
videos
like
like
I
did
last
year
so
and
as
far
as
the
tri-town
trail,
I
can
tell
you
that
they
have
a
meeting
we'll
be
discussing
I'm
on
the
board
for
that.
Just
for
full
disclosure
here
we'll
be
meeting
on
wednesday
night
to
discuss
our
options
as
far
as,
but
their
intention
right
now
is
to
provide
a
trail
day
event
for
the
tri-town
trail.
F
I
suspect,
however,
that
it
will
be
probably
focused
on
the
preston
ledgered
end
of
the
trail
rather
than
the
grotton
end,
and
just
because
the
trail
is
fairly
well
established
up
there
at
that
end
and
they're,
trying
to
get
in
and
they're
also
doing
a
lot
of
things
to
get
a
counter
installed,
working
with
the
connecticut
parks
of
people
and
through
uconn
and
stuff.
So
a
lot
of
activities,
principally
at
the
other
end.
At
this
end,
the
just
for
information
purposes.
B
I
did
get
something
from
the
trbp,
which
is
the
thames
river
group.
They
were
suggesting,
instead
of
trails
day,
to
do
a
floating
workshop
where
there
would
be
kayaks
and
things
going
around.
So
that's
you
know
kind
of
another,
another
thing
too,
because
you're
open
you're
out
there
and
you're
separated.
B
B
F
Just
as
a
down
point
on
the
the
thames
river
basin
projects,
they
they
have
been
running
a
floating
workshop
pretty
much
every
year.
I
think
this
is
like
the
25th
anniversary
of
it
so
and
they
focus
on
different
areas.
I've
been
I've
attended,
a
couple
of
them
they're,
pretty
big
they're
a
full
day,
extravaganza
type
of
thing.
This
last
I
was
up
there
last
night
in
2019
up
in
and
they
had
it
was
they
had
the
fishing
people
there.
F
They
had
a
lot
of
different
things,
but
it
was
it
was
they
had
lectures
and
everything
else.
So
it's
a
big
deal
for
them
that
they
have
and
that's
what
comes.
I
don't
know
if
they're
trying
to
focus
in
a
portion
of
this
with
with
the
trails
they're
not,
but
at
this
point
for
the
trails
day,
I
I
I
wouldn't
worry
about
the
the
floating
workshop
thing,
but
I
you
know
if
we
have,
if
we're
going
to
suggest
things
to
we,
either
roll
over
the
top
property
video.
F
I'm
not
going
to
be
around
that
that
weekend,
I'm
going
to
be
in
utah.
But
you
know,
if
you
want
me
to
try
to
work
with
bray,
to
submit
that
we
can
do
that
or
else
we
just
have
this.
The
statements
recommending
here's
all
the
the
groton
trails
website
to
go
to
to
check
out
things
for
that
day
and
do
it
on
your
own.
I
I
would
prefer
to
do
that
rather
than
trying
to
recycle
last
year's
thing.
F
B
B
J
I
like
the
idea
of
having
something
on
the
website,
but
I
wonder
if
we
could
also,
in
that
statement,
encourage
families
to
set
to
submit
pictures
onto
our
video
and
picture
component,
and
let
them
know
that
that
we're
looking
for
those
pictures,
because
kids
especially,
would
get
more
interested
in
that.
If
the
families,
if
they
know
their
picture,
is
going
to
be
up
there
at
some
trail
or
other
as
they're
walking
along
just
an
idea.
D
I
just
yeah
karen,
I
like
that
idea,
but
we
have
to
you
have
to
be
careful
with
posting
pictures
of
youth.
We
and
brain
knows
this.
We
had
a
big
issue
with
that.
With
with
when
I
was
at
avalonia,
we
had
to
be
really
careful
not
to
have
any
pictures
posted
with
kids
on
them.
Unless
you
have
a
letter
of
consent,
saying
they're
allowed
to
be
seen
just
because
of
the
whole,
you
know
protecting
kids
issue,
so
it's
just
something
you
gotta
be
careful
about.
Okay,
even.
D
A
D
B
I
I
H
H
E
E
H
B
That
that
has
a
you
know,
kind
of
an
advertisement
says
guys
it's
trail
day,
go
out
and
have
fun
with
your
family
and
by
then
by
then
almost
everyone
that
would
want
a
vaccine
has
had
a
vaccine.
So
that's
we're
getting
we're
getting
a
little,
hopefully
out
of
the
woods
there
so
to
speak,
but
also
then
we
could.
We
could
link
to
you
know
a
that,
a
video
of
a
particular
trail.
B
So
I
I
think
I've
I've
got
ann
and
bray.
Take
a
whack
of
that
and
you
know
I'll
I'll.
Certainly
I'll
remain
the
interface
to
I.t.
On
the
you
know,
get
things
posted
in
a
you
know,
there's
a
what
we
have
is
a
news
alert
that
kind
of
comes
up
on
the
main
website,
as
well
as
ours,
about
new
things
that
get
posted
so
leave
that
there,
and
that
would
be
a
target.
I'll
say
that
would
be
a
may
target.
B
B
H
B
C
B
B
Well,
I
guess
climate
change
is
upon
us
and
is
a
major,
a
major
issue
for
everyone.
So
there'll
be
more
of
these
things
coming
coming
along.
So
that's
there!
So
that's
out
there
in
the
agenda
package.
Okay,
all
right,
so
I
don't
have
to
mention
more
about
that.
Let's
see
I
talked
about
that.
I
talked
about
government
bill
6641
karen
sent
me
a
note
karen
on
the
great
american
outdoors
act
is
that
written
yep
did
and
you
had
indicated
that
land
and
water
conservation
grants.
B
J
B
All
right,
so
maybe
bruce
will
just
pass
it
along
to
you.
It's
called
the
lwcf
land
and
water
conservation
grants
for
local
communities,
so
it
looks
like
groton
would
have
to
apply
for
it
and
that's
something
that
the
that
would
the
staff
would
would
do
rather
than
the
conservation
commission
per
se
right.
I
would
think
not
all.
B
It
did
also
say
that
it
can
help
do
state
local
parks,
preservation
of
wildlife,
beaches,
small
hiking
trails,
bike
paths,
so
it
looks
like
it's
almost
anything
from
the
parks
and
rec's
point
of
view
would
be
supported
as
well.
Not
just
you
know,
pure
conservation,
all
right.
I
do
think
that
I
got
to
the
end
of
the
agenda.
Unbelievable
tom.
F
Yes,
I
just
one
kind
of
one
question
for
you:
there
was
a
resolution
passed
at
last
tuesday
night's
town
council
of
the
whole
meeting
that
basically
approved
our
planet
conservation,
our
open
space
plan
and
conservation
plan.
Do
we
need
to
update
the
version?
That's
going
to
get
posted
up
there
to
reflect
that
action,
because
I
noticed
that
it's
not
going
to
be
taken
to
the
town
council
meeting
as
a
whole.
F
B
H
B
I,
if
they're
not
there
yet
so
I
don't
have
so
I
was
kind
of
waiting
to
see
it
in
the
actual
minutes.
But
that's
a
good
point.
So
I
think
that
can
be.
That
certainly
can
be
reflected
in
the
document
and
on
the
website,
or
at
least
the
maybe,
the
intro
on
the
website
to
the
to
the
open
space
plan.
Yeah.
H
B
A
I
just
wanted
to
say,
as
far
as
our
pollinator
pathway
initiative
I've,
just
I've
worked
with
the
wild
ones
as
a
local
group.
They
had
a
seed
sale
on
saturday.
I
helped
them
prepare
and
we
ran
the
sale.
It
was
extremely
successful
and
there's
just
seems
to
be
a
huge
awareness,
growing
awareness
of
these
native
plants
and
the
value
of
pollinators,
and
so
hopefully
we're
gonna
start
to
move
forward.
With
that
it's
been
a
the
last
year.
J
B
A
A
B
D
A
B
No,
I
I'm
I'm
working
on
a
change
control
process
with
the
town
I.t
we're
not
quite
there
yet.
I
wanna
we're
trying
to
get
a
baseline
of
the
website
and
then
we're
gonna
create
a
change
control
mechanism
that
you
know
maybe
any
well.
I
don't
want
any
of
us
to
put
in
because
we
it
it's
a
it's
a
conservation
commission's
website.
B
So
we
all
need
to
you
know
be
somewhat
aware
and
and
in
sync
on
what
we
put
out
there
so
so
yeah
we'll
do
something,
but
it
will
go
through
town
to
town
I.t,
all
right
and
right
now
I've
been
acting
as
the
counterpoint
on
our
side
from
you
guys,
and
then
I
pass
it
off
to
I.t
and
then
they
post
it
if
they
can
never
get
the
thing
to
work
and
all
right.
Other
topics.
C
I
just
have
one
for
a
report
of
staff,
so
I
just
wanted
to
update
everyone.
It's
it's
been
a
while,
but
the
grant
application
that
the
conservation
commission
supported
last
summer
to
acquire
that
piece
of
property
we're
calling
the
walters
property
of
knowing
bludgeon
road.
We
did
receive
that
grant.
We
were
awarded
a
good
amount
of
money,
but
it's
far
less
than
the
match
we're
expecting
so
the
town
will
be.
You
know
somewhere
between
you
know
four
and
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
short
of
the
goal.
C
A
C
A
C
Yeah
and
if
you
don't
yeah,
if
you
can't,
you
can't
buy
that
particular
property
within
three
months
yeah
I
mean
we
can
apply
again
next
year,
but
yeah
it
was.
It
was
definitely
less
and
shorter
period
than
we
were
expecting
and
they
they
did
that
across
the
board.
I
think
I
don't
know
I
mean
we
were
going
to
make
suggestions.
You
know
it's
better
to
take.
You
know
five
good
projects
that
will
actually
work
and
fully
fund
them.
Then
you
know
20
partially
funded.
Then
none
of
them
work.
C
F
I
held
down
the
thing
this
is
first,
I
heard
that
the
grant
application
got
approved.
So
what
did
that
just
happen
this
past
week
or
something
or
how?
Last
wednesday
last
wednesday?
Okay,
because
I
didn't
know
if
gosa
was
aware
of
that
and
as
far
as
approaching
them
for
potential
partial
funding
or
partial
ownership
type
of
partnership,
they
may
be
interested
in
something
like
that.