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From YouTube: Groton Conservation Commission 11/1/21
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting November 1, 2021: Conservation Commission. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/file/getfile/58266
A
Okay,
this
is
the
november
1st
2021
town
of
groton
conservation
commission.
My
name
is
bruce
osborne
from
planning
and
development
services
on
the
staff.
The
chairman
tonight
is
larry
dunn.
This
meeting
is
being
recorded
via
zoom.
If
any
attendees
would
like
to
speak
during
the
public
communication
portion
of
the
agenda
do
so
by
raising
your
virtual
hand
looks
like
we
have
any
attendees
right
now,
but
with
with
that,
where
you
can
take
the
role
and
start
the
meeting.
B
B
G
H
B
B
A
B
A
B
Okay,
all
right
public
communication-
I
I
under
this
one
I
just
I
was
just
going
to
throw
in
a
couple
of
quickies
before
we
get
to
noah
the
on
1026,
the
town
council
unanimously
approved
a
sustainability
position.
Job
description-
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
had
a
chance
to
read
that
it
was
fairly
it
is
that
was
it.
B
And
hopefully
they
can
find
someone
to
fill
that
slot.
So
that's
a
positive
sign.
So
now
that's
been
funded,
it's
been
approved
and
I
assume
the
job
search
is
underway,
and
albeit
some
discussion
on
where
we
report
it,
it
wound
up
in
working
for
for
john.
I
I
didn't
hear.
Is
that
directly
for
john
or
is
there
is
that
somewhere
else.
A
B
That
was
my
assumption,
but
I
was
just
checking
all
right
and
so
guys
as
we
go
forward.
I
would
expect
that
that's
an
individual
that
we're
gonna
need
to
sync
with
on
a
variety
of
issues.
The
other
one
was,
let's
see.
Pleasant
valley,
sale
was
also
reviewed
at
the
1026
and
after
much
discussion
there
was
the
agreement
that
the
rfp
would
include
the
language
for
a
neighborhood
open
space
which
could
be
in
that
exact
parcel
or
in
a
very
in
close
proximity
to
that.
B
So
remember
we
had
that
discussion
in
our
last
meeting
about
what
our
recommendations
were
on
that
on
that
parcel.
So
I
you
know,
so
I
don't.
I
didn't
see
any
issue
with
that.
So
I
think
that
was
a
reasonable
compromise,
but
a
reasonable
position.
So
those
are
the
only
two.
You
know
what
I
would
call
external
communications
that
I
wanted
to
share
unless
molly
wants
to
provide
some
input.
This
is
now
your
opportunity.
B
I
B
B
Working
title,
so
we
talked
about
this
last
meeting
and
what
I
want
to
do,
and
noah
actually
wanted
to
do
it
as
well,
is
to
kind
of
demo
it
to
you
guys.
My
objectives
here
would
be
that
with
agreement,
we
would
do
a
beta
release
to
you,
meaning
us
the
the
commission
members
to
play
around
with,
and
we
would
then
consolidate
any
feedback
or
comments
back
to
noah
as
his
beta
test
team.
In
effect,
so
I
mean
I've
been
playing
with
it
and
I
think
tom's
been
playing
with
it.
B
I
B
Or
I
could
bring
it
up
and
you
could
talk
me
through
one
of
the
probably
better
if
you
did
it,
but
okay,
all
right,
not
a
problem.
So,
while
we're
waiting
on
that,
so
we
have
a
chunk
of.
I
got
one
two,
three,
four:
five:
six:
seven
and
a
late
entry,
maybe
an
eighth
stewardship
workbook,
that's
on
the
docket!
So
there's
a
lot
of
information
there.
He
popped
back
in
again,
so
he's
on
a
different
computer.
B
I
So
you
can
check
it
out
yourself,
but
when
you
open
it
up,
you
will
get
this
main
screen,
which
is
the
just
sort
of
outline
of
gratin,
with
all
of
the
parcels
that
are
listed
in
your
open
space
inventory,
and
we
have
those
sort
of
broadly
classified
out
into,
I
believe
13
different
categories
which
are
sort
of
a
division
of
who
owns
them
and
and
what
they
are
in
terms
of
open
space.
Are
they
dedicated?
Are
they
managed?
I
You
can
click
on
any
of
these
and
get
information
on
the
left-hand
side
about
the
different
different
attributes.
Name.
Anything!
That's
really
in
your
in
your
inventory
is
here,
and
it
will
also
give
you
acreages
all
everything
about
the
classifications
and
that's
sort
of
the
the
main
view.
The
main
way
you
would
interact
with
this
down
at
the
bottom.
The
next
sort
of
section
of
this
is
a
table,
and
this
looks
very
much
like
the
excel
table
of
the
the
inventory
that
you're
used
to
this
just
has
any
any
of
those.
I
I
These
are
based
on
again
that
data
that
will
show
you
how
much
the
total
acreage
of
the
open
space
that
is
on
the
map
screen.
It
shows
it
divided
out
by
fire
districts,
because
I
hear
that's
a
a
common
question
that
you
guys
are
getting
and
it
divides
them
up.
Based
on
you
know,
you
can
see
a
little
chart
based
on
whether
it's
state
dedicated
versus
state,
managed,
private,
etc,
etc,
and,
finally,
over
on
the
other
side,
we
just
have
a
little
about
section,
not
much
there
at
the
moment,
but
this
is.
I
This
is
a
place
to
keep
reminders
we'll
put
a
little
legend
in
there
answer
any
questions
about
the
app.
So
the
way
this
works
is
you
have
all
these
different
sections
and
down
here
on
the
map
page.
We
can
actually
filter
this
out
to
see
what
we
want
to
look
at
so
say
we're
only
interested
in
state.
I
And
state
facilities
all
right
so
now
all
those
other
categories
disappear
from
the
map,
and
we
just
see
the
state
stuff
and
what's
kind
of
handy
about
this-
is
that
will
cascade
down
through
the
whole
app.
So
before
we
had
those
three
400
parcels
over
in
the
open
space
table,
you
can
see
now
there's
only
like
20
or
30
of
them,
just
the
just
the
state
parcels.
I
If
we
go
over
to
statistics,
you
can
see
we're
now,
just
looking
at
the
statistics
of
the
state
parcels,
it'll
tell
us
that
we
have.
You
know:
1800
acres
of
open
space
versus
3000
as
it
was
when
we
had
everything
intact
and
you
can
kind
of
mix
and
match
any
of
the
any
of
these
categories.
That
way,
if
you
just
wanted
to
look
at
specifically
dedicated,
you
could
grab
the
town
dedicated
the
city
dedicated
the
the
privately
held
dedicated
and
just
get
statistics
on
that.
I
B
There's
a
lot
of
good
stuff
here
I
mean
the
one
thing
that
popped
out
to
me
and
I
know
I've
been
looking
at
this
for
a
while.
In
a
way
I
didn't
say
it
before
is
when
you
get
to
the
stats
level,
you
have
acres,
but
each
of
the
bars
doesn't
have
a
percentage
associated
with
the
bar.
It
just
has
a
total
at
the
bottom.
B
B
C
I
I
will
add
some
of
that,
and
one
thing
I
should
mention
here
is
that
the
this
version
is
going
to
be.
This
is
sort
of
targeted
to
you
guys
only
if
this
is
a
tool
for
you
a
future
iteration
of
this
will
be
looking
at
the
targeted
towards
the
public,
so
there
may
be
a
little
bit
less
description
in
this
because
you,
you
know
you
guys
kind
of
know
what
the
definition
of
like
dedicated
versus
managed.
You
know.
I
B
E
As
I
was
mentioned,
I've
been
working
with
noah
on
this
in
the
in
over
the
last
couple
months
here
and
I
think
no,
I
got
to
acknowledge
to
noah
that
he's
really
done
a
fantastic
job
very
quickly,
turning
this
around
from
just
an
excel
spreadsheet,
into
a
whole
graphic
display
and
then
with
all
the
metrics
and
and
statistics
with
it.
I've
been
working
with
noah
directly
as
far
as
trying
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
everything
properly
categorized,
but
I've
only
focused
right
now
on
the
the
town-owned
dedicated
space.
E
So
but
then
the
state
and
the
you
know
I
really
and
and
the
private
stuff
I
haven't,
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
it.
That's
just
is
if
I
roll
across
stuff
I've
updated
that
type
of
stuff,
but
there's
still
probably
a
lot
of
other
grooming.
That
needs
to
be
done
and
double
checking
and,
as
you
guys
go
through
this.
E
E
You
know
in
the
earlier
versions,
but
I've
kind
of
taken
it
and
it's
applied
as
I've
gone
through.
Every
parcel
in
the
town,
that's
town
owned
and
making
sure
that
it's
covered
here
is
is
how
it's
got
on
here.
That's
the
data
that
I've
provided
to
noah,
I'm
the
guy
behind,
putting
all
the
data
to
know
and
he's
just
been
executing
what
I've
given
him.
So
I
just
wanted
for
full
disclosure
for
all
the
rest
of
the
board
members
here.
Thank
you.
H
I
G
Oh
hi,
the
one
thought
I
have
is:
can
we
at
some
point
link
these
parcels
to
whatever
hiking
trails?
Are
there,
because,
in
terms
of
public
use,
the
public
really
cares
about
this
to
be
able
to
access
the
land?
So
if
we
could
have
that,
you
could
click
on
the
parcel
and
then
it
would
link
you
to
hiking
maps.
I
think
that
would
be
a
really.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
place
for
that,
but
I
think
it
would
be
good.
I
That's
sort
of
I
don't
know
if
it's
phase
two
three
four
whatever,
but
it's
a
it's
a
future
phase
of
this.
Definitely
you
know
right
now
we're
sort
of
that,
this
being
an
internal
thing
for
you
guys
to
help
manage
your
data
and
then
down
the
road.
It's
sort
of.
How
do
we
get
this
out
to
everybody
else?
And
that's
that
is
one
thing
yeah
you
mentioned
the
trails.
That's
one
thing,
I'm
already
looking
at.
I
I
B
All
right
all
right
thanks.
I
guess
a
couple
of
comments
I
want
to
close
with.
One
is,
as
tom
mentioned.
This
is
what
two
years
ago
I
think
michelle
when
we
started
with
a
prior,
a
prior
makeup
of
the
council
actually
or
the
commission
this
so
is
far
down.
The
line
is
that
I
wouldn't
have
thought
about
this
when
we
started
that
so
this
is.
B
To
do
so,
that's
where
our
focus
is
going
to
shift
from
doing
both
and
rely
on
noaa
and
town
staff
to
maintain
the
structure,
which
means
that,
as
we
come
up
with
information,
we
need
to
funnel
it
carefully
into
right
now
with
into
noaa
right.
So,
if
something
more
formal
changes
we'll
do
that,
but
for
structure
purposes
we're
going
to
funnel
it
into
him,
and
I
would
ask
that
any
comments
you
have
or
recommendations
you
send
to
me,
so
I
can
consolidate
them
and
send
them
send
them
on
so
he
doesn't
get.
B
You
know
eight
different
memos,
if
you
will
that
are
redundant.
The
second
thing
is
that
we're
you
know
as
we
go
forward
and
we
may
look
at
it
sometime
between
you
know.
Maybe
every
six
months
or
every
12
months
there'd
be
a
data
refresh.
I
think
our
charter
calls
for
us
to
provide
an
annual
inventory
to
the
town
and
that
should
sync
up
with
an
update
to
this
app
in
terms
of
the
raw
data,
that's
behind
it,
changes
that
have
been
made,
etc.
B
Obviously,
if
a
parcel
comes
in
or
goes
out
during
the
year,
which
does
happen
that
those
could
be
could
be
handled
on
a
I
don't
know,
with
a
can
do
basis
or
something
like
that.
So
if
ghosa
buys
another
property,
you
know
that'd
be
something
you
know,
because
those
are
reasonably
sized
properties.
You
know
we
kind
of
look
to
put
those
in
right
as
soon
as
possible
if
it's
a
minor
partition
of
a
property,
because
the
pound
sold
a
piece
and
kept
the
piece.
B
B
B
E
B
C
B
E
As
far
as
I'm
a
few
green
items,
one
is
boulder
heights.
I
have
that
plan
ready,
but
I
just
didn't
get
it
done
in
time
to
get
it
posted
as
part
of
the
agenda.
If
somebody
would
like
to
take
a
look
at
it,
we
can.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
try
to
do
it
tonight
online
after
we
go
through
some
of
these
other
ones,
or
we
can
just
defer
it
to
another
month
and
as
far
as
on
the
woods
walk
item,
that's
a
small
parcel,
relatively
speaking.
E
Basically,
because
we
had
made
a
decision
back
in
january
to
kind
of
focus
on
five
acres
or
more.
I
did
get
down
to
some
one
of
these
smaller
ones
and
the
reason
that
this
one's
on
here
I
have
that
developed,
but
we
are
holding
it
right
now
because
it
was
a
small
parcel,
but
now
I'm
also
holding
it
again
because
of
the
of
the
consideration
from
the
300
briar
hill
road
that
was
supposed
to
be
inspected
by
gosa
and
and
members
from
the
conservation
commission.
E
Here
last
week
it
got
rained
out-
and
it's
been
rescheduled
for
tomorrow
at
8
30..
So
I'll
just
continue
to
hold
that
one,
it's
a
it's
a
smaller
a
parcel,
but
those
that's
the
status
of
the
two
green
ones
and
the
yellow
ones
are
included
with
the
package
for
review
and
approval.
Today's
meeting
and
the
other
one
that's
still
a
hold
here,
that's
on
is
in
the
yellow.
E
B
Okay,
I've
been
I've,
been
sober
by
well
wait.
All
right
wait
a
minute
here
then
then
I
will.
I
will
do
on
the
on
the
fly
changes
there.
We
go.
Okay,
I
don't
know
what
you're
talking
about
tom.
So
what
we'll
do
is
let
us
kind
of
go
through
and
you
guys
have
see
I've
got
the
agenda.
I've
got
the
the
pdf
open.
Let
me
share
that.
B
E
E
Plane
is
the
next
one
up
now
birch
plain
had
a
this
as
far
I'll
just
kind
of
walk
through
real
quick
it
had.
I
had
named
it
had
the
colonoscopy
conservation
area
in
the
title
I
took
that
out
just
to
simplify
it.
I
just
call
it
the
first
plane
creek
and
also
with
the
name
change
in
process
rather
than
having
to
go
change
the
whole
title
here
it
made
it
simpler.
This
also
focuses
on
the
on
on
the
baker
cove
inputs
that
that
we
that
this
overall
area
is
supporting.
B
E
C
E
I
know
that
the
I
attended
the
auction
no
one
bit
on
them,
so
then
the
the
attorney
that
was
there
for
the
auction
told
me
that
he
would
be
reporting
back
to
the
court,
the
the
foreclosure
court,
and
that
he
would
anticipate
that
the
court
would
provide
would
direct
that
they,
those
parcels,
be
given
to
this.
The.
E
I
I
have
not
heard
or
seen
anything,
but
it's
a
fairly
lengthy
process.
You
know
from
with
due
to
covet
slowdowns
in
the
courts
and
everything-
and
I
have
not
seen
anything
where,
because
they
would
go
through
the
go
through
the
assessor's
office
and
then
finally
show
up
sometime
here
in
the
near
future,
but
they're
still
listed
privately
right
now,
as
far
as
in
the
gis
system,.
E
Know
the
things
that
I
I
the
biggest
update
was
to
include
on
on
page
nine
of
this.
This
documentary
of
32
overall
was
the
is
you
know,
we've
gone
in
and
cl
which
we
had
not
done,
but
this
these
fixtures
right
in
here
in
the
discussion
all
about
the
sea
level
change
and
the
potential
into
this
area.
That
was
all
added
to
this
document.
B
E
Yeah,
if
you
go
down,
if
you,
if
you
slide
down
to
the
page,
15
or
38,
you
know
the
plan
on
page
38
overall,
that's
you
know
standard
thing
we
take.
We
take
a
look
at
the.
I
did
add
to
this
the
consideration
you
know
there's
additional
these
surveys
here
for
the
the
bases
and
then
the
yeah
right
in
here.
That
was
that's
a
new
added
item
to
this
plan.
E
E
Yes,
that
will
be
fixed
on
I've,
got
it
in
my
master
here
to
update
that's
already
been
fixed
in
okay
and
when
we,
when
I,
when
I
convert
this,
take
the
draft
off
and
that
that's
already
been
incorporated
when
I
want
to
provide
that's
already
been
incorporated,
that's
a
good
catch.
Thank
you
for
reminding
me
yep.
B
B
H
E
You
know
this
is
a.
This
is
a
work
in
progress.
This
was
this
is
provided
tonight
for
review,
as
we
as
I
mentioned,
when
we
look
down
from
the
from
the
spreadsheet
that
this
one
I
wanted
to.
Let
people
know
that
it's
available
for
them
to
take
a
look
at,
and
also
to
kind
of
force,
ghosted
and
take
a
look
at
it
to
see
if
they
had
any
comments,
we're
not
trying
to
approve
this
one
tonight.
E
Okay,
I
don't
anticipate
this
being
improved
until
we're
really
much
further
along
in
the
in
the
procurement
of
the
of
the
wolf
brook
development
parcel,
because
it's
the
primary
parcel
for
this
whole
stewardship
plan.
But
I
wanted
to
provide
this
as
an
update.
That's
that's
why
we
did
kind
of
because
it
it
I
have
merged
in
with
also
the
the.
E
Road
and
the
pendleton
parcel,
as
well
as
the
mystic
book
I've
kind
of
put
all
those
packages.
This
is
the
first
time
I'm
presenting
this
as
pretty
much
an
update
to
the
to
the
rest
of
the
commission
so
that
they
can
at
least
see
this
and
see
where
we're
heading
with
this
having
four
big
four
larger
parcels
all
together
and
that's
why
we
and
why
we
recognized
this
is-
and
I
said
earlier
that
we
would
not
be
approving
this.
This
would
be
not
full,
but
I
just
wanted
to
present
this.
B
Yeah,
it
just
occurred
to
me
while
I
was
looking
at
this.
Wouldn't
it
be
neat
if
I
went
to
that
that
app
and
when
I
clicked
on
the
parcel,
it
would
link
me
to
the
stewardship
plan
which
is
available
in
another
area
of
the
website.
I
don't
know
so
again.
I
think,
to
tend
to
tie
these
things
together
across.
E
B
B
C
Any
discussion
brent,
two
points,
one,
the
looking
at
the
map
that
you
have
up
on
the
screen
are
the
three
areas
of
the
three
blue
dots
that
are
almost
in
line
right
next
to
wolf.
Brook,
I
think
at
some
point
in
the
future.
It
would
be
great
if
that
were
all
under
one
name
and
not
as
separate
name
parcels,
but
that's
something
to
think
about
in
the
future.
C
C
C
It's
an
sort
of
an
advertisement
for
it,
and
we
don't
have
anything
like
that
on
any
of
our
other.
Well,
we
don't
have
a
granted.
We
don't
have
a
disc
golf
course,
but
it
it's
mentioned
in
a
couple
of
spots
in
the
descriptions
section
4
and
a
section
at
the
end
and
at
this
point
a
nice
description
that
you've
made
of
the
property
itself.
C
But
at
this
point
I
would
leave
off
that
it
has
that
disc
golf
course,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
the
town
has
actually
approved
it.
In
other
words,
it's
a
sort
of
a
public
recreation
spot,
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
what
its
bearing
is,
but
it's
certainly
a
diver,
a
diversion
to
open
space
use
than
we
have
on
most
of
our
other
properties.
When
that
gets
mentioned,.
B
B
So
the
mechanism
is
kind
of
now
underway
and
I'll
record
on
a
little
later
in
terms
of
what
the
town
staff
is
doing
about
it.
But
I
think
that's
that
path
is
the
way
to
address
the
answer
to
that
question.
In
terms
of
the
this,
of
course,
is
I
think,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
it's
there.
I
would
agree,
it's
not
approved
by
parks
and
rec,
and
it's
unclear
to
me
what
the
disposition
is
going
to
be.
B
So
you
know,
so
I
don't
think
we
can
ignore
its
reality,
but
I
do
think
you
make
a
valid
point
that
says:
should
we
say
that
you
know
in
effect
legally
it's
kind
of
an
encroachment
on
the
property
and
hasn't
been
formally
approved
or
supported.
So
you
know
I
mean
tom
you're
you're,
the
head
of
that
parcel.
E
E
You
know,
I've
included
that
into
the
into
the
you
know
they
have
that
the
whole
map
of
the
town
data
centers
the
disc
golf
is
that
these
are
stewardship
issues
that
we
should
be
taking
a
look
at
in
a
stewardship
plan.
That's
why
I've
kind
of
used
it
and
kind
of
included
this
one
into
this
one
for
discussion
and
it's
kind
of
left.
E
It
is
we're
not
ready
to
approve
it
yet,
but
these
are
the
kind
of
issues
that
were
that
we
should
be
looking
at
as
as
a
conservation,
commission
and
worrying
about
the
stewardship
items.
You
know
disc
golf
being
in
coaching
like
larry,
said,
and
that's
why
I
put
this
in
in
here
kind
of
kind
of
get
everything
together
and
put
it
all
in
one
place.
You
know.
E
Enough
to
separate
this
zero
flanders
road
off
and
put
it
by
itself,
yeah,
I
kind
of
scratched
my
head.
I
would
you
get
use
what
bray
said
earlier
in
regard
to
the
towns
interested
is
exactly
what
deb
jones
and
larry
was
with
me
today.
She
said
made
the
exact
same
statement
that
I
was
interested,
but
that's
held
by
a
private
individual.
E
I
I
didn't
know
that
tom
was
actually
interested
in
that
ghost
has
shown
some
interest
in,
as
well
as
the
the
department
of
interior
through
the
the
eastern
cottontail
program,
has
shown
interested
in
that
air
in
that
same
parcel.
So
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
adjacent
parcel
to
the
west
and
where
that's
gonna
end
up,
I
don't
know,
but
for
right
now
no
one's
worrying
about
it-
and
I
think
is-
is
by
putting
it
on
the
list
is
dedicated
open
space
as
opposed
to
just
town
owned.
E
B
B
B
B
B
He
loves
to
greet
them,
okay,
so
whoops,
sorry,
I
thought
you
were
raising
your
hand.
So
I
think
where
we're
at
on
this
one
is
that
it'll
continue
in
draft
mode,
any
comments
or
queries
or
questions
or
recommendations
get
them
into
the
parcel
team,
and
we
will
I
mean
what
do
you?
What
do
you
think
from
a
timeline
tom
when
we'd
be
ready
to
bring
this
for
a
discussion
for
approval.
A
B
B
E
Another
new
one
that
was
a
first
time
present
that
came
out
of
the
parcel
review.
This
is
another
personal,
just
like
zero
flanders,
whereas
zero
south
road,
which
is
right
across
the
street
from
the
burroughs
field,
baseball
diamond
and
the
preserve
petruzzi
launch,
which
is
right
under
south
road.
Just
before
the
the
you
go
under
the
viaduct
there
to
head
towards
the
airport,
there's
a
parcel
there.
That
was
the
town
obtained
through
a
foreclosure
action.
E
E
This
looks
like
it
was
an
old
gravel
pit,
similar
to
what
you
have
across
the
way
on
the
other
side
of
the
amtrak
trestles.
There's
you've
got
pilcon
doing.
You
know
stone
quarrying
right
now,
and
this
looks
like
it
was
a
very
similar
type
of
area
that
was
quarried
and
that's
what
caused
these
ponds
and
stuff
to
be.
There,
there's
an
outlet
stream
that
comes
out
of
the
parcel
and
goes
out
right
into
the
clonic
cove
or
the
chronic
river
through.
B
E
Underground
drainage
lines
right,
so
you
have
these
different.
Very
it's
very
picturesque
back.
There
there's
a
lot
of
hiking
trails
that
are
established
already
through
the
parcel,
but
you
have
to
come
from
the
from
the
area
where
all
the
apartment
complexes
you
have
to
go
through
some.
You
know
walk-throughs
right
onto
there
and
then
you
go
out
and
there's
a
lot
of
fishing
lines
and
everything
else
in
the
area.
I
E
B
E
It's
a
nice
parcel,
it's
around
16,
acres
or
so
very
underutilized,
but
again
it's
very
similar
to
a
lot
of
the
other
open
space,
dedicated
open
space
areas
within
the
town.
That's
the
time.
I
shifted
it
because
the
town
hasn't
done
anything
with
it.
I
don't
see
any
real
future
for
it
at
this
point,
with
the
amount
of
wetlands
that
are
included,
and
I
moved
it
to
the
dedicated
open
space
and
then
generated
the
the
plan
here
and
we
want
to
continue
down.
There's.
H
E
Yeah
there
we
go
creation
is
all
the
the
fishing
that's
going
on
in
there
and
so
that's
to
come.
I
just
the
standard
recommendations
for
the
enhancements
and
then
I
did
add
in
because
there
is
no
impact
from
the
climate
change
stuff,
this
one's
much
shorter,
but
taking
a
look
at
the
ponds
and
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
contamination
issues.
E
B
C
C
The
last
comment
is,
if
you
look
to
the
right
of
that
property-
and
you
can
see
a
baseball
diamond,
it's
green,
and
if
you
come
right
to
where
your
arrow
is
at
the
moment
right
along
the
railroad
tracks,
there
is
a
pipe
that
comes
across
the
river.
That
goes
underneath
that
and
continues
on
up
to
about
the
first
pond
or
the
second
pond
and
then
goes
south
underneath
amtrak.
C
C
Once
I
put
that
pipe
in
big
controversy
when
it
went
in,
but
once
the
pipe
went
in,
maybe
10
years
had
gone
by
and
there
was
suddenly
quite
a
bit
of
bacteria
that
was
showing
up
in
the
river
and
it
turns
out
that
that
pipe
had
broken
in
on
that
property
and
was
spewing
out
raw
sewage
for
weeks.
I
guess
before
it
was
discovered,
so
the
the
town
is
not
going
to
get
rid
of
it
because
they
have
probably
some
sort
of
easement
on
it.
C
C
B
B
So
I
think
I
think,
let's
leave
it
at
that
and
if
you
could
put
is
that
you
know
if
you
get
a
response
back
by
our
december,
meaning
that'd
be
great,
I
mean
the
answer
could
be.
We
haven't
looked
at
anything,
nor
do
we
care
to,
or
we
haven't
looked
at
it
and
we
will
or
we
have
and
here's
the
situation
you
know
so
there's
you
know,
there's
obviously
a
range
of
responses,
but
I
think
getting
some
response
is
appropriate
and
then,
based
upon
that
response,
we
as
a
commission,
can
then
decide.
B
B
B
All
right
well,
given
I
I've
that
that
bray's
input
so,
but
I
will
open
up
and
say:
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
it,
understanding
that
bray's
gonna
go
walk
it
and
it
comes
up
with
something
we
can
always?
These
are
living
documents.
We
can
change
things
on
a
later
date,
but
I
would
like
to
either
say
we're
going
to
prove
it
or
not,
approve
it.
So
is
there
a
motion
out
there
to
approve
this
stewardship
plan?
B
H
C
H
C
B
B
B
E
B
E
E
E
B
Kind
of
enter
the
play
as
their
lawn.
Well
that
that's
the
point.
They
may
not
know
that
that
they
can
get
in
there
right,
yeah,
yeah,
that's
a
concern,
so
that
was
you
know.
The
one
thing
I
saw
there
is
we
did
want
it
to
be:
have
access
by
the
community
resident.
So
I
think
these
two,
you
know
are
our
useful
actions
in
order
to
address
that.
First,
hey
guys,
are
you
unaware
and
then
work?
You
know,
work
boundaries
and
we're
both
at
the
same
time,
all
right.
E
C
In
here
that,
on
the
very
east
northeast
side,
there's
a
little
bit
of
encroachment
from
the
homeowners
there,
some
stuff
is
blown
into
the
woods
off
their
property,
but
otherwise
avalonia
property.
The
only
other
thing
that,
on
the
avalonia
property
that
people
are
a
little
upset
about
is
the
atv
trails,
so
big
property
to
the
left
has
depended
upon
the
age
of
the
kids.
C
C
C
B
B
E
I've
walked
the
properties
here,
there's
a
number
of
smaller
properties
that
the
town
came
in
through
the
foreclosure
process,
rather
than
the
open
space
process
and
they're
all
they
have,
but
because
there
was
originally
supposed
to
be.
If
you
get
to
the
the
couple
more
pages
down,
it's
probably
a
little
bit
easier
to
see
on
the
map
here
yeah.
E
You
can
see
that
all
the
little
dots
there
are
all
the
different
11
pieces
of
parcel
that
make
up
this
management
plan,
but
they
all
the
the
wood,
the
water
to
the
north.
There
is
all
privately
held.
You
can
see
the
yellow
lines.
There
are
a
couple
of
different
owners
to
that
and
there's
also
the
landfire
road.
It
ends
and
then
starts
again,
so
it's
never
completed.
E
So
this
is
kind
of
like
a
development
that
didn't
go
anywhere,
that
the
town
ended
up
getting
through
a
foreclosure
process
and
it's
kind
of
just
sat
on
on
the
table
here
and
so,
as
of
because
of
the
lack
of
anybody
doing
anything
with
this
I've.
You
know
we
shifted
it
over
to
the
in
the
master
index
to
dedicate
it
and
then
develop
the
stewardship
plan.
This
is
another
one,
we're
kind
of
being
proactive
here
a
little
bit
in
regard
to
how
to
handle
this.
E
But
it's
all
continuous
areas-
and
this
is
just
to
the
east
of
where
we,
the
the
woodcrest
one-
that
we
just
just
approved
you-
can
see
it's
on
the
very
left
edge
of
that
picture
is
what
the
plan
that
we
just
previously
approved.
So
this
is
just
a
couple
of
block
and
a
half
over,
and
we
end
up
with
all
these
and
there's
a
large
this
stream
that
comes
out
of
the
is
fairly
flowing
most
of
the
time
it
does
dry
up
in
the
summer
time.
E
But
it
does
you
know
if
any
kind
of
water
flow
from
rain
and
that
type
of
stuff
does
wash
all
the
way
through
this
area.
So
this
will
all
go
in.
It
is
a
watershed
area,
and
so
I
just
so
it's
right
up
on
this
one
is
very
similar
to
what
we
just
did
moving
on
to.
If
you
want
to
kind
of
zoom
ahead
to
the
area.
E
I
mean
kids
on
bicycles
and
people
walking
along
looking
at
the
two
parts
of
landfire
road
together,
and
so
that's
very
well
traveled
and
then
there's
some
trails
and
you
can
see,
there's
been
some
partying
and
that
kind
of
stuff
that
you
know
that's
been
going
on
in
some
of
the
areas
off
of
that
street
in
particular,
and
it's
come,
I
had
to
put
the
area
clean
up
the
same
marking,
areas,
surveys
and
then
it's
almost
identical
to
the
one
we
just
is
that
we
just
passed.
I
haven't
seen
any.
C
C
E
B
C
C
Pequot
woods,
I'm
sorry,
pequot
woods
trails
actually
goes
through
those
abutting
properties
and
I've
been
working
with
the
attorney
the
town
attorney
to
try
to
put
them
under
a
single
name
of
pequot
woods,
not
necessarily
changing
their
names
or
or
the
deeds,
but
just
to
make
it
sort
of
all
encompassing
another
layer
of
just
saying
that
pequot
woods
property
includes
these
smaller
ones,
because
the
initial
prequat
woods
is
actually
two
large
properties
put
together
to
make
one.
And
since
that
time
the
town
has
acquired
these
other
adjacent
properties.
C
But
there
wasn't
any
mechanism
in
the
town
to
actually
fold
it
under
the
auspice
of
pequot
woods
board
of
trustees.
So
that's
what
we're
working
on
so
I'm
hoping
for
the
outcome
of
that
is
one
where
you
could
take
that
this
area
and
actually
put
it
under
where
he
was
or
mentioning
one
name.
Let's
say,
but.
A
A
A
A
E
E
B
Right,
I,
I
think
the
whole
point
of
the
50,
odd
or
so
parcels
we
just
discussed
earlier
to
go
to
push
it.
Is
it
or
isn't
it
is
a
valid
comment
which
would
then
answer
your
question
bruce
to
address
that
question
because
you
go
through
this
center
here
I
mean
that's
wetlands
I
mean
there's,
not
there's
not.
You
know
development
isn't
going
to
happen
there
right.
B
B
That
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
force
conscious
decisions
and
not
just
leave
it
hanging
out
there
that
says,
oh,
maybe
there
could
be
something
if
someone
got
really
creative
and
how
to
develop
this
or
not
so
that
I
so,
I
think
that's
tom's
point,
let's,
let's
push
it
make
an
issue
of
it.
Obviously
that
would
be
step
one
before
you'd
even
entertain
a
combination
of
these
parcels.
B
E
I
guess
my
question
is:
what
is
that,
when
the
town
floor
closes
on
something
you're,
not
you,
you
can
go
off
and
sell
properties
and
stuff,
but
you
haven't
tried
to
market
this
stuff
in
years.
So
I
mean
what
is
the
process
internal
that
you
guys
are
in
the
real
estate
development
room,
trying
to
sell
out
individual
parcels
or
subdivisions.
E
So
that's
what
I'm
saying:
nothing's
happened
and
so,
as
a
result,
it
defaults
into
this
is
vacant
land,
the
town
owns
and
then,
as
far
as
the
conservation
commission,
we're
making
a
recommendation
here
to
the
town
that
this
be
considered,
dedicated,
open
space
and
here's
and
here's
the
the
process
that
that's.
Where.
E
A
A
But
but
the
open
space
lot
here,
I
believe,
is
already
yeah.
It's
it's
already
been
deeded
to
the
town
whenever
it
was
approved,
10
15
20
years
ago,
I'm
not
sure
now,
but
the
open
space
parcel
is
here
to
stay,
that's
already
under
deed.
We
have
that
but
yeah
the
other
ones.
Aren't
I
mean
I
can.
I
can
share
that
file
with
you.
If
you
like
tom,
I
can
try
to
I'm
going
to
get
that
tomorrow,
where
I
can
ask
deb,
where
else
it
would
be.
E
G
A
You
had
to
what
you
had
to
wait
for
the
full
subdivision
to
be
approved
and
that
those
approvals
last
10
years
and
then
you
can
have
an
additional
five-year
extension
at
the
request,
and
I
believe
well,
seven
years
ago
now
the
planning
commission
did
approve
that
five-year
request
to
extend
the
subdivision.
It
expired
two
years
ago
and
that's
why
not
much
has
gone
done.
I
mean,
maybe
I
guess
it
takes
two
years
to
market
or
more
obviously,
to
market
these
after
we
get
them.
A
C
C
Elevation
the
topography
lines
across
that
property.
There
are
three
parcels
on
the
north
side
of
it
of
the
property
as
we
look
at
it
right,
yeah
right
where
your
arrow
is
that
are
flat
and
everything
else
is
pretty
steep
or
wet.
I
guess-
and
I
looked
at
that
and
said
those
are
left
over-
I'm
surprised
that
somebody
hasn't
jumped
on
them,
because
the
whole
area
has
already
developed
it
has
the
infrastructure
of
water
and
and
electricity
and
so
forth.
C
I
wonder
if
the
town
would
really
hang
on
to
those
particular
lots
and
those
are
the
ones
that
they
they
could
monitor.
I'm
sorry
market,
but
one
of
the
problems
that
we
are
opening
up
the
book
to
is
that
there's
other
folks
other
groups
looking
at
the
same
properties
that
we
are
that
may
have
other
interests
in
their
future.
What
other
directions
in
their
future
of
that
property?
B
Well
so
I
mean
there's,
there's
parts
of
these:
it's
almost
like
there's
different
categories
within
this
set.
You
know
the
category
a
would
be
it's
already
legally
protected.
Category
b
is
there's
no
way
in
hell
anybody's
going
to
ever
build
on
it
and
should
be
protected,
and
category
c
is
you
know
it's
develop
a
bull
and
even
though
it
hasn't
been
to
date,
so
it
does
seem
that
there
needs
to
be
some
resolution
now.
This
is
in
the
50
so
list
that
was
submitted
right.
E
B
Yeah,
so
I
I
I'm
kind
of
leaning
towards
one
of
two
paths:
either
a
reduces
to
those
that
you
know
we
would
fight
tooth
and
nail
to
retain
his
open
space
or
number
two
delay
this
until
such
time
as
we've
gone
through
that
list
of
50,
odd
parcels
of
which
these
are
apart
and
get
a
disposition
from
the
town
or
something
at
least
some
discourse
on
it.
But
I
you
know
other
people's
comments
or
inputs.
B
F
E
I
guess
so
you
know
clarification
of
the
15
list.
We've
identified
these
parcels,
you
know
that
are
on
on
on
these
11
parcels.
You
know
to
be
able
to
have
them.
Take
a
look
at
it
if
they're,
because,
if
they're
the
ones
that
are
they
the
person
that
from
the
town
that's
going
to
push
marketing
this
thing.
A
A
B
A
B
G
B
A
B
Oh
okay!
Well,
I
I
think,
where
rad
is
you
know,
should
we
put
this
one
on
hold
until
we
get
through
those
two
data
points
right,
any
the
documentation
that
says
there
was
an
interest
on
on
record
to
sell
certain
parcels
and
be
the
fee.
You
know
the
feedback
from
the
total
list
that
we
sent.
You
I
mean
so
is
there
is
any
objections
to
delaying
this
another
month
for
approval.
B
B
E
Maple
glen
is
a
new
parcel
that
the
town
just
received
as
an
open
as
an
open
space
gift
to
the
town
it's
been
walked
by
a
number
of
people
recently
through
you
know,
deb
jones
mark
barry
town
manager
has
walked
this
parcel,
it's
kind
of
an
interesting
one.
It's
just
north
of
the
navy
housing
area
off
of
gunji
womp
road
right
now.
E
You
know
for
deer,
feeder
and,
and
you
know,
ladders
and
everything
else
going
up
into
the
trees
and
everything
so
but
and
so
there's
some
interest
in
regard
to
better
establishing
these
trails
for
the
local
area
there
off
of
catalapa
road
and
as
it
goes
in
this,
is
it
kind
of
a
long
area
and
there's
a
there's,
a
stream
through
the
middle
of
this
and
also
water
flow.
That's
that
is
wetland
areas.
E
So
it's
a
good
it's
a
good
area,
so
I
really
didn't
other
than
you
know
a
lot
of
interesting
things
in
there.
So
it's
a
pretty
standard,
open
space
area,
so
the
recommendations
are.
This
is
fairly
straightforward,
but
I
did
add
in
here
to
investigate
the
hunting,
the
applicable
res.
You
know,
resolutions
what's
going
on
there.
E
So
I
put
an
action
item
in
there
to
investigate
if
there,
if
there's
rollover
of
his
potential
historic
sites
onto
this
area
and
then
the
and
then
the
comments
that
from
received
from
the
town,
manager
and
stuff
in
regard
to
proving
open
space
usage
and
any
type
of
signage
there.
So
those
those
make
up
the
the
timeline
and
where
those
actions
came
from
and
as
far
as
from
a
special
contact,
it
would
be
the
denison
pequod
people
in
the
gunjuwan
archaeological
area.
B
All
right
any
discussions
or
further
comments,
if
not
I'll,
call
for
a
vote
to
approve
and
release
this
to
the
website,
one
two,
three,
four:
five,
all
right,
so
that
was
unanimous
so
that
one
is
approved
and
update
the
web.
All
right,
one
two
three
got
approved
and
one
two:
three:
that's
a
50
50.
you're,
batting
500.
B
B
C
D
B
E
Yeah,
this
is
the
area
that
was
part
of
this,
the
swap
for
this
from
the
merit
property
with
the
school.
It's
behind
it's
right
about
I-95
to
the
north,
it's
at
the
clove
over
avenue,
which
is
where
the
from
down
from
applebee's
at
route.
12.
You
go
down
that
street
to
the
very
end
of
it,
you'll
go
by
the
credit
union
and
there's
an
apartment
complex
there,
and
then,
on
the
other
on
the
west
side
on
the
east
side,
there's
another.
E
The
ledges
of
apartment
complexes
is
up
there,
that
kind
of
surrounds
it.
There's
a
lot
of
there's
water
that
goes
right
through
the
middle
of
it,
of
the
the
bisects
of
the
east
and
west
side
of
the
parcel,
and
that
there's
a
a
fairly
well
established
sewer
main
that
goes
with
the
access
road
for
utility
access
that
goes
along
the
edge
of
the
north
edge
of
the
property
then
goes
parallel
to
down
to
the
water
to
the
other
end
of
the
prop
parcel.
E
So
there's
a
very
well
established,
hiking
walking
path,
not
very
much
use
on
it.
There's
a
little
pond
in
the
south
east
corner
there.
At
the
end
of
culvert,
it's
been
very
overgrown
as
a
big
boulder
field.
There
of
boulders,
it
looks
like
they
were
put
in
there
removed,
as
from
some
of
the
excavations
from
some
of
the
of
these
parcels
just
thrown
in
there
just
thrown
in
there
literally
and
they
and
the
trees
have
grown
up
around
it.
E
So
they've
been
it's
been
a
number
of
years
that
they've
been
established
there
and
then
on
the
east
on
around
the
ledges.
They
have
some
hiking
paths
and
a
fitness
path
that
kind
of
utilizes
some
of
the
property.
But
it's
very
steep
in
that
area.
What
going
into
the
into
the
ravine
area
for
the
water
a
flow
that
comes
under
I-95
there?
E
It
comes
out,
there's
an
actual
outflow
at
I-95
there
and
it
it's
there's
water
running
most
of
the
year
there
it's
coming
that's
accumulated
up
from
the
I-95
areas,
it's
all
concentrated
there
and
then
flows
down
and
down
in
and
then
this
ultimately
ends
up
at
baker's
cove.
It's
part
of
the
watershed
there.
That
goes
through
the
drastic
drive
area
that,
on
that
open
space
of
the
town
owns
and
now
goes.
That
has
their
property
and
across
the
street
from
there
also.
B
B
E
This
again
goes
back
to
another
parcel
that
parks
and
rec
has
expressed
some
interest
in
it,
but
hasn't
taken
any
action,
so
I
put
it
on
because
there's
nothing
there
to
make
it
managed.
Yet
I
moved
it
to
the
dedicated
spot
on
the
dedicated
tracking,
because
at
least
to
get
some
because
this
is
again
a
large
parcel,
no
actions
being
taken
on
it
and
again
it
was
a
fairly
recent
acquisition
by
the
town.
B
B
E
E
B
E
C
A
E
B
E
D
Larry
just
for
your
information,
so
the
ones
that
were
draft
at
the
time,
because
I
went
into
the
the
folder
that
tom
gave
me
so
the
but
the
ones
in
the
bottom.
They
have
a
d
like
in
the
first
column,
they
have
a
d
in
front
of
the
property
name.
That's
because
the
plan
wasn't
drafted
not
adopted.
So
now
that
we've
adopted
them.
Those
d's
have
to
go
away.
B
B
D
G
B
D
Won't
question
just
so
so
which
properties
we
we
had
the
whole
baker
code
discussion,
maybe
looking
at
the
properties
that
are
associated
with
baker
cove
first,
so,
which
properties
are
those
remind
me,
so
we
just
saw
boulder
heights,
has
a
connection
to
it.
What's
the
other
major
property
that
that
is
the
with
that
baker's
code
group.
E
D
B
B
F
The
the
adapt
adaptation
workbook
that
they
had
us
work
through
during
the
workshop
listed
several
areas
that,
with
climate
with
climate
change,
the
strategies
that
both
things,
people
like
avalonia
and
conservation
commissions
need
to
be
begin
to
look
at
for
their
region
and
they
have
listed
in
the
adaptation
workbook
a
five-step
approach
to
looking
at
a
specific
area.
In
our
case
it
would
be
groton
and
then
applying
some
of
the
principles
of
this
workbook
to
our
conservation
efforts.
F
And
what
I
did
here
was
I
just
simply
copied
all
the
strategies
and
each
of
these
strategies
they
go
into
detail.
They
give
examples
you
can
type
in
new
england
or
connecticut,
and
it
can
give
you,
for
example,
species
that
would
be
more
able
to
survive
as
climate
warms
on
species
that
are
at
risk
of
disappearing
because
of
climate
change
and
just
loads
and
loads
of
information
in
a
very
organized
format.
I
I
thought
you
want
to
jump
in
ann
or
larry,
because
there
was
just
so
much
information.
F
H
I
think
the
other
thing
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
invasive
species
and
we're
going
to
have
different
populations
of
invasive
species
come
up
as
well
as,
what's
already
here
and
unfortunately
I
was
not
able
to.
I
was
hoping
to
go
to
the
hoffman
preserve
walk,
so
I
could
listen
to
how
they
approached
it
with
the
hoffman
preserve
specifically,
but
it
sounded
like
they.
B
Yeah,
no,
I
think
a
couple
of
things
one
is
this
is
a
national
effort,
so
some
of
the
folks
on
the
call
were
from
what
wisconsin
or
michigan
or
somewhere
up
there
yeah
michigan.
So
you
know
there's
things
going
on.
There's
also
support
from
connecticut
deep,
with
some
names,
et
cetera,
that
offered
support
for
fundings
and
some
grants
and
new
grants
and
other
things.
B
G
B
B
So
I
took
a
whack
at
extracting
from
that
long
list
of
stewardship
items.
Some
of
the
you
know
is
there
something
to
adapt
from
from
all
that
information
that
might
provide
more
data
or
data
more
details
on
the
actions
that
were
there
right
and
so
there's
a
set
of
observations
or
recommendations
from
here.
My
suggestion,
guys
would
be
that
you
know
that
bruce
sends
out
these
two
documents
to
all
of
us
that
you
kind
of
look
at
that
in
the
context
of
you
know.
B
Well,
I
don't
know
what
step
we're
up
to,
but
that's
that
step
is
as
we're
almost
finished
with
that
list.
Then
you
go
into
you
know.
Execution
and
part
of
execution
means
getting
more
specific
in
detail
about
the
action
plans
and
what
does
that
really
mean
the
stuff
they
they
worked
on
here
gets
into
the.
What
do
you
really
mean?
You
know
specific
names
of
trees.
You
know
it
gets
into
a
level
of
detail
that
you
know
would
be
difficult
for
us
to
kind
of
do
independently
and
they
offered
some
help.
B
B
You
know
several,
I
think,
two
or
three
from
the
deep
side
volunteered
to
either
review
what
we
came
up
with
or
provided
suggestions
or
even
run
a
workshop
for,
let's
say
a
volunteer
team.
You
know
that
that
would
you
know,
put
some
meat
on
the
bones
on.
You
know
an
execution
plan,
so
my
suggestion
would
be
to
send
these
documents
out
because
it
has
a
lot
of
links
in
the
in
the
the
first
document.
B
Give
you
a
chance
to
kind
of
familiarize
yourself
with
it,
because
we
spent
three
sessions
an
hour
and
a
half
each,
so
we're
not
gonna.
Today,
you
know.
Take
those
you
know
five,
almost
five
hours
of
work
and
kind
of
try
and
jam
it
down
your
throats
just
want
to
introduce
you
to
it
and
the
concept
of
it,
and
then
I
would
ask
that
next
month
that
we
kind
of
kick
it
around
a
little
bit
again
with
a
focus
from
the
the
and
I'll
put
it
in
quotes,
the
birch
plain
or
the.
B
Maybe
the
you
know
the
baker's
cove
aspect
of
it,
as
we
said
as
a
priority,
and
that
also
allows
us
to
kind
of
work
with
you
know
the
baker's,
cove
team
right
and
maybe
do
something
collaboratively.
I
mean
those
are
kind
of
things.
I'd
like
to
talk
about
next
week
as
a
topic,
any
any
comments
on
on
that.
The
plan.
B
All
right,
so
what
I'm
gonna
do
is
bruce
I'll.
Send
you
these
two
documents
and
ask
you
to
publish
those
again
kind
of
internal
documents
to
the
team,
so
they
can
have.
You
know
the
maximum
amount
of
time
to
kind
of
think
about
this,
because
that's
you
know
that
that's
we're
progressing
right.
So
it's
all
good
stuff
and
all
right.
So
the
other
item
or
the
nice
item
I
had
was-
and
maybe
this
should
have
been
under
community
input,
but
we
got
a
request
from
gosa.
B
Should
we
not
have
a
name
that
is
meaningful,
we're
not
going
to
call
it
the
wild
trolls
property,
we're
not
going
to
go
because
we
bought
it.
So
there's
no
need
to
you
know
if
you
donated
it,
that'd
be
a
different
thing.
You
know,
can
will
the
conservation
commission,
being
you
guys,
have
any
recommendations
for
a
name
that
could
be
used
for
that
property?
B
E
And
so
I
I
don't
know
who
wants
to
who
should
be
the
person
going
forward
with
it,
whether
it
should
be
the
town
like
through
the
planning
department
or
gosa
as
an
independent
or
the.
But
or
do
you
feel
it?
Are
you
implying
here
that
you
feel
that
it's
our
role
as
the
conservation
commission
to
be
coordinating
that
effort?
Because
that's
my
question.
B
Well,
I
didn't,
I
didn't
say,
coordinate
gosa
as
a
proportionate
owner
right.
They
contributed
money
right.
The
state
contributed
money
in
the
town
contributed
money.
So
that
says
that
put
put
the
state
aside
right
for
a
second
in
terms
of
naming,
so
that
to
me
says
that
gosa,
in
my
view,
would
be
ghosta
and
the
town
need
to
agree
on
a
name.
B
So
it's
not
like
the
town
council
is
going
to
declare
a
name
given
the
fact
that
hey
guys,
you
know
if
there's
250
grand
put
in
by
cosa,
they
get
a
say
in
this
gosa
then
asked
us.
Did
we
have
any
recommendations,
so
I
kind
of
view
that
we
would
input
togosa
for
their
request
and
they're
the
ones
that
have
a
greater
standing
on
this
kind
of
issue
than
we
do
on
this
one.
B
My
only
view
is
is
that
I
don't
want
to
think
is
that
the
the
knee-jerk
reaction
is
every
piece
of
land
we're
going
to
rename
we're
going
to
relay
in
an
indian
name.
I
mean
we
have
a
lot
right.
Is
there?
Is
there
something
that
that
you
guys
have
a
view
of
you
know
that?
Would
be
a
suggestion
you
know
saying
yeah,
let's
follow
this.
Ask
the
quest
kind
of
model
is
certainly
a
feedback,
so
I'm
throwing
out
there
for
discussion.
C
Coming
up
with
names
on
some
of
the
past
properties
is
not
a
forte,
usually
the
the
council
and
when
the
council
was
involved
along
with
the
planning
department,
sometimes
they
would
name
it
after
a
particular
person,
mortimer
wright
and
can't
come
to
mind
at
the
moment.
Some
other
properties,
joel
property
things
like
that,
but
name
for
this
one
night
for
our
blank.
C
B
D
F
B
E
There
is
historical
significance
and
mr
mcbride
has
already
been
out
there
and
surveyed
there's
a
lot
of
surveys.
That
was
what
was
in
that
present
in
the
I
did
talk
about
that
in
the
stewardship
plan,
so
particularly
on
the
northern
half
of
the
property.
If
you
go
along
the
edge
there,
there's
there's
hundreds
of
locations
that
hit
from
the
historical
perspective,
because
this
is
one
of
the
retreat
areas
for
the
pequot
war
battle.
D
C
B
B
You
know
that
you
know
we're
trying
to
reintroduce
there
and
that
was
there
that
kind
of
demolished
a
little
bit
you
know
but
needs
to
get.
You
know,
recovered
anywho,
all
right.
So
that's
out
there
as
a
request
to
you
guys
any
feedback.
You
could
certainly
send
to
me
and
I
would
be
happy
to
communicate
that
to
gosa,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
heard
is
is
is
maybe
be
more
conservation
nature
oriented
rather
than
historic
battle
oriented.
If
you
will
yeah
tom.
E
If
you're
interested
in
the
historic
nature
type
of
thing
is,
that
is
that
I
point
you
to
page
58
of
your
agenda
package
today
is
the
appendix
a
which
is
the
the
biological
and
beauty
write-up
that
was
done
by
ghosa.
It's
botanist
back
a
number
of
years
ago
when
they
were
defending
this
property
in
the
in
the
in
the
process
for
their
advocacy.
E
And
so,
if
you
want
to
look
back
from
2000,
it's
the
sixth
time
frame,
but
I
included
that
as
an
appendix
to
the
stewardship
plan,
because
it
has
all
the
history
of
what
you're
talking
about
these
white
cedars
and
all
that
type
of
stuff
and
all
the
other
vernal
pools.
And
if
you're
looking
for
it's
interesting
reading
as
far
as
what's
actually
on
the
property.
This
is
the
the
go-to
document.
For
you.
B
B
One
of
the
things
that
was
distributed,
we're
not
going
to
go
over.
It
was
the
housing
market
study
that
the
town
you
know
did.
I
thought
it
was
interesting
because
it
talked
about
certain
areas.
I
thought
were
relevant
from
our
perspective
in
terms
of
what
kinds
of
housing
people
were
looking
for,
and
you
know
again,
people
read
in
there
what
they
want
to
read
but
to
some
degree
the
value
of
open
space,
I
think,
is
it's
kind
of
buried
in
there
in
terms
of
what
people
are
looking
for.
B
You
know
more
dense
housing
and
everything
else,
but
then
you
need
a
place
to
go.
So
I
thought
that
was
interesting,
reading
and
I'll
kind
of
leave
that,
for
you
guys
to
look
at
as
a
resource
for
any
future
activities,
actions
etc
that
you
may
have
so
that
would
be
my
only
comments
on
that.
Unless
somebody
else
has
a
comment,
since
you
didn't
have
that
document.
B
Okay,
4-8
conservation,
commission
website
status
all
right,
so
one
of
the
things
one
of
my
questions
was
which
stewardship
plans
are
being
released.
So
we
answered
that,
but
the
next
one
was
there
was
a
recommendation
for,
I
think
from
bray.
To
add
to
that
to
our
website.
The
pequot
would
student
report.
B
C
B
All
right
I
mean
that
that
gets
to,
you
know,
volunteer
groups,
if
you
will
that
you
know
that
to
support
us,
so
I
kind
of
like
to
encourage
various
groups
of
going
after
students
or
making
class
studies
out
of
a
particular
parcel
stewardship
program
is
probably
something-
and
I
think,
michelle
we
kind
of
talked
about
that.
How
to
get
folks
involved
next
item
on
the
list
is
the
ner
input
so
ray?
Did
we
get
that
memo
out
to
nerve
for
that
recommendation?.
C
C
B
B
Yeah,
I
I
kind
of
didn't
see
any
hardly
any
resistance.
I
I
really
look
kind
of
like
there's
heart.
I
I
don't
know
of
any
downside
right
other
than
a
couple.
People
may
not
be
able
to
to
park
their
boats
in
certain
areas
anymore.
You
know,
but
that
that's
about
it.
Could
you
send
me
and
bruce
that
I
mean
I
like
to
get
into
the
record
that
documentation.
B
G
B
B
Two
times
the
amount
of
carbon
sequestration
per
acre
of
seagrass
versus
trees
or
forests,
so
I
asked
for
some
backup
on
that
it.
I
got
some
backup,
I'm
not
entirely
happy
with
it
but
enough.
So
that
says
you
know.
Should
we.
You
know
this
kind
of
gets
aware
of
almost
our
very
first
conversation
about
a
sustainability
manager.
B
F
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
that.
I
happened
to
run
into
someone
at
a
wedding
I
was
at
that
is
on
the
board
of
project
o,
and
they
were
telling
me
that
without
genetic
engineering
to
allow
seagrass
to
survive
in
warmer
weathers,
whether
that
the
seagrass
will
not
survive
around
here
that
the
biggest
issue
is
that
it-
and
there
are
people
working
on
the
genetic
on
a
genetic
component
to
see
if
they
can
insert
something
into
the
sea
grass.
B
All
right,
that's
unfortunate,
but
the
good
thing
is
we're
doing
a
lot
of
genes
flashing
these
days,
and
it
would
not
surprise
me
if
I
can
create
a
tomato.
You
know
that's
hybrid.
I
ought
to
be
able
to
create
a
sea
grass
that
can
live
with
warmer
waters,
so
I
would
say
that
it's
probably
better
than
even
chance
that
that
might
happen
someday.
But
what
you're
saying
is
it's
probably
not
worth
until
that
happens
not
worth
investing
a
lot
of
money
or
time
trying
to
plant
existing
sea
grass
exactly
items
all
right,
fair
enough.
B
E
E
D
I
D
E
To
focusing
in
on
two
greenways,
the
north
south,
one
which
would
be
the
equi
putting
and
submitting
the
triton
trail,
and
the
reason
going
for
this
one
is
that
it
affects
multiple
towns.
It's
already
got
seacog
approval,
and
it's
just
a
matter
of
getting
this
designation
pretty
much.
It's
a
simplified
plan
here
on
the
document.
I
I've
already
drafted
it
up
with
what
this
would
look
like.
E
This
will
be
going
to
the
for
the
january
for
the
december
meeting
to
the
trails
task
force
for
them
to
approve
it,
and
so,
if
I
have
any
comments
to
these,
I
gladly
will
take
those
and
update
this.
This
is
still
a
draft,
but
I
just
wanted
to
present
this
to
the
conservation
commission
because
we're
we
kind
of
instigated
this
from
our
action
items.
The
open
space
plan
and
conservation.
D
E
So
I
know
if
anybody
has
com,
it's
pretty
standard.
You
know
just
answer
the
questions,
and
then
I
outlined
what
their
trail
is,
where
they
are
right
now
and
then
there's
a
map
that
included
us
and
then
the
second
one
is
a
crosstown
trail
that
would
go.
That
would
link
the
gold
star
bridge
with
the
mystic
river
bridge
and
in
this
one
I
kind
of
took
a
look
at.
E
How
do
you
take
in
integrate
the
tasks
that
we
already
have
from
both
a
hiking
and
a
biking
perspective,
because
I
I
saw
where
the
last
package
that
was
approved
by
the
state
was
down
in
clinton
and
they
basically
put
two
together
also-
and
this
was
the
2020
approval
or
to
the
2021
approval,
where
they
basically
kind
of
did
a
split
type
of
thing,
and
so
what
I
try
to
do
here
is
that
there
are
is
court
is
getting
getting.
You
know.
E
A
coordination
from
the
new
london
has
their
greenway
is
along.
It
starts
at
the
at
the
bridge
and
goes
south
along
the
waterfront,
so
we
would
get
linkage
with
the
pedestrian
path
across
the
gold
star
bridge
come
directly
off
of
that
as
a
combined,
hiking
and
and
or
hiking
walking
and
biking
path.
That
would
come
off
the
gold
star
bridge
and
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
plan
here,
the
this
is
the
tri-town
I'll
go
back
up
a
page
here
to
you'll
see
a
yeah.
E
There's
we
got
these
waypoints
here,
those
little
stars
with
the
numbers
in
them.
That
would
be
the
gold
star.
You
know
start
back
up
at
number.
One
up
in
the
right
upper
left
hand
corner
there.
This,
where
you're
coming
off
the
gold
star
bridge
you
go
under
the
I-95
there's
already
existing
walkways.
There
you'd
walk
down
all
the
way
along
the
waterfront
and
then
you'd
break
where
the
bicycles
would
continue
south
on
on
thames
street
to
eastern
point,
road
and
the
hiking
would
cross
over
through
the
fort
griswold
state
park.
E
Go
through
washington
park
go
across
open
space
at
the
town
owns
at
miura
drive
then
go
through
the
the
nature,
preserve
the
saskatchewan,
preserve
on
the
existing
new
trailer
that
was
posted
there,
and
then
we
would
establish
a
new
trail
continuing
south
through
the
joel
property
of
the
new
things,
river,
mystic
famed
river
school
and
then
get
a
couple
of
easements
and
link
up
with
the
town
of
the
city
park.
Birch
plain
creek
park
area
with
unexisting
trails
there.
E
Meanwhile,
the
biking
trail
would
catch
up
with
us
coming
off
of
shana
koskin
at
the
pfizer
area
and
link
up
down
down
at
points
number
seven
there
on
on
thomas
road
and
then
there's
a
bike
and
walking
path
along
thomas
row.
That's
brand
new
and
then
you
would
continue
along
around
the
airport
on
the
existing
biking
path.
That's
already
identified.
E
Take
that
all
the
way
up
to
route
one
cross
over
the
paconic
river
there
and
then
get
on
the
boardwalk
come
back
down
towards
bluff
point
again,
then
you'd
have
a
split
where
the
biking
trail
would
go
on
to
the
biking.
Trail,
that's
on
the
existing
trolley
path
and
the
walking
trail
would
then
go
down
into
bluff
point
along
the
tri-town
trail
and
then
link
up
with
the
new
with
the
existing
crosstown
trail.
That
would
come
out
of
the
point
along
the
the
amtrak
line.
E
That
hits
a
lot
of
the
open
space
areas
using
the
existing
trails
that
we
have
and
get
continuity
and
connectivity
between
the
cold
crosstown
from
river
to
river
and
utilizing
as
much
integration
with
the
town
with
the
town
and
the
city
spaces
here.
So
I
just
this
is
what
is
you
know
be
looking
for
any
kind
of
comments
to
this.
This
is
a
draft
I'm
working
with
noah
to
get
this
into
the
proper
format.
That's
what
come!
H
That's
funny,
no
just
to
make
it
really
clear,
yeah
and
yeah
those
numbers
if
they
could
have
like
some
neon
orange
or
green
or
something
to
stand
out.
But
it's
great
thank
you
so
much
for
putting
this
together.
I
did
find
just
a
couple
of
typos
or
double
words,
and
I
can
send
that
to
you.
I
appreciate
it
maybe
wednesday,
because
I'll
be
working
at
the
election
tomorrow.
E
B
H
H
B
Right,
no,
this
is
good
stuff.
I
mean
it's,
it's
I'm
was
surprised
not
at
the
work,
but
I
was
surprised
that
we
actually
had
something
as
comprehensive
as
this.
That
was
possible.
Certainly
going
east
to
west.
I
mean
most
of
our
stuff
goes
north
to
the
south
right,
so
that
I
think,
is
a
good
thing,
so
kudos
on
that
all.
H
E
What
this
will
go
through
is
the
the
trails
task
force
and
they
will
they
have
to
go
to
the
town
council
for
approval
for
submission
and
the
deadline
is
in
is
in
april,
so
I
just
wanted
to
get
this
going
because
they
only
meet
quarterly.
So
my
task
was
in
this
quarter
is
to
get
this
together.
You
know,
do
the
research
finalize
on
the
plan
as
far
as
going
down,
you
know
we
had
the
original
submission.
E
Was
they
took
the
original
pocd
and
threw
a
threw
this
application
on
top
of
it,
and
that
got
that
went
nowhere
and
so
that's
come.
I
did
a
lot
of
research
to
take
a
look
at
how
did
grease
waste
get
approved?
What
was
the
criteria?
There's
a
very
expensive
criteria,
and
this
meets
pretty,
you
know,
meets
all
the
criteria
to
to
hopefully
get
an
approval
for
in,
for.
B
E
E
If
we,
I
think
what
we
would
once
there
once
this
is
approved
by
the
trails
task
force,
because
this
is
really
kind
of
a
trails
thing
more
than
anything
else.
At
this
point,
and
that's
really
run
by
mark
berry
with
the
parks
and
recs
he'll
make
a
recommendation
to
hopefully
get
an
endorsement
both
from
the
parks
and
rex
people,
as
well
as
from
the
conservation
commission.
B
F
B
B
Of
green
ones
today
we
knocked
off
a
bunch
of
these
other
ones.
So,
to
tell
you
the
truth,
there's
not
a
lot
to
discuss
here
so
as
these
are
going
to
turn
green.
So
I'm
going
to
update
that
based
upon
what
happened
today
and
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
all
of
a
sudden,
let's
get
rid
of
these
and
say
mid
midterm
actions.
B
So
so
we
got
a
bunch
more
ads,
so
great
job
knock
that
list
off.
Now
we
get
to
move
to
the
next
set.
So
I
just
thought:
I'd
share
the
good
news
and
and
say
next
week
we're
going
to
kind
of
talk
about
the
midterm
actions
and
see
what
happens
there
so
good
good
stuff
there.
Folks.
So,
thanks
to
all
of
you
to
knock
off
those
knock
off
those
a
lot
of
the
most
of
the
short-term
actions.
B
B
B
D
B
B
A
Floor
is
here
yeah.
I
can
do
that
so
we
received
the
list.
I
didn't
realize
it
wasn't
in
the
packets
but
yeah.
I
guess
it
was
not
of
the
50
or
so
parcels
that
were
identified
as
town
on
parcels
that
or
not
protected
by
open
space
deep
and
the
list
it
was
kind
of
in.
I
don't
know
how
much
detail
you
want
me
to
go
over
it
now.
I
can.
A
Some
categories
are
you
know
just
the
wrong
deed
is
posted
on
gis,
so
I
mean
a
lot
of
times
when
you
click
on
one
of
those
parcels
on
gis,
you'll
get
to
a
certain
deed,
and
it's
it's
like
a
blank
form
that
just
says
you
know
tax
abatement
form
and
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that.
Well,
it's
just
it's
just
an
incorrect
link
on
gis.
A
So,
in
order
to
actually
see
if
it's
properties
are,
you
know,
if
indeed
it
does
say
that
they're
for
open
space
purposes,
the
only
way
to
do
that,
would
actually
go
into
land
records
and
look
at
the
deeds
and
see
what
they
say
that
that
was
a
good
portion
of
them
that
we
looked
at
yeah.
There
are
a
good
amount
of
those
that
just
had
wrong
deeds
or
incorrect
links
that
need
further
investigation.
A
There
were
three
or
four
of
them
that
I
guess
back
in
the
2000s,
the
town
acquired
through
the
open
space
acquisition
through
subdivision,
and
there
were
a
few
that
were
never
recorded.
I
think
there
are
three
or
four
of
them,
so
we
need
to
look
further
into
that.
We
couldn't
find
any
deeds,
but
that
that's
something
we
need
to
look
into.
A
There
are
another
three
properties
that
were
land
donations
for
open
space
and
those
deeds
were
never
filed,
so
they
need
correcting.
So
you
found
a
good
portion
of
properties.
You
know
at
least
a
handful
there
that
there
were
no
open
space
deeds
ever
filed
within
the
last.
You
know
10
or
20
years
here,
so
those
need
to
be
corrected.
A
The
third
type
of
category
is
accepted,
parcels
that
were
deeded
or
donated
to
the
town
and
there's
no
record
of
what
the
intended
use
is
within
that
spreadsheet.
So
they
need
some
more
research
going
back
to
the
minutes
of
when
the
town
council
required
those
if
they
spoke
to
an
intended
use,
and
then
we
need
to
kind
of
see
you
know,
did
that
reflect
in
the
deed
or
did
it
not
so
that
needs
a
little
more
research.
That's
a
good
portion
of
them.
A
Fourth
type
is
properties
taken
in
foreclosure
such
as
you
know
what
we
talked
about
earlier.
Well,
actually,
lengthier
properties
are
a
little
different,
but
there's
a
lot
of
those
properties
in
the
list
that
were
taken
in
foreclosure,
but
there
was
never
a
determination,
or
at
least
there's
no
apparent
determination
of
what
those
properties
were
going
to
be
used
for,
usually
when
I
think
I
described
this
last
month,
usually
when
the
town
acquires
property
through
the
foreclosure
process,
there
is
an
internal
process
of
you
know:
apartment
heads
reviewing
it
to
see.
A
If
there's
any
need
for
departments
to
use
that
property.
You
know
the
town
looks
you
know,
could
it
be
a
building
lot
that
could
be
sold
or
you
know
a
use
by
another
town
department
or
open
space
could
be
the
outcome.
So
I
mean
I
I
don't.
I
think
a
lot
of
those
haven't
been
determined
they're,
not
all
going
to
be
open
space,
but
you
know
a
good
portion
of
them
could
be.
B
Right,
no,
that's
great,
I
mean
the
the
I
guess
the
cleanup
portion
is
understandable
and
you
know
about
time
we
got
around
to
it.
The
foreclosure
category
is
one
that
you
know.
We
wanted
to
get
clarity
on
the
intent
of
the
town,
as
we
said
earlier,
so
the
exercise
you
know
I
think
is-
is
very
useful
and
I
thank
the
staff
you
and
the
staff
for
doing
it.
I
should
wait
and
we'll
continue
to
do
it
because
it's
not
you're
just
starting,
so
I
think
I
I'm
I'm
hopeful.
B
B
A
Oh,
no,
no!
Well!
No!
You
I
mean,
like
I
said,
there's
at
least
a
handful
there
that
you
know
there
just
never
got
filed.
I
don't
know
through
the
cracks
a
while
ago
and
yeah
I'm
glad
you
can
cut
on
those
I.
I
can
definitely
look
through
more
of
the
subdivision
files
and
work
on
some
of
these,
but
I
mean
the
list
is
going
to
get
shorter.
Once
someone
looks
and
land
records
and
applies
the
correct
deeds
to
the
parcels.
A
B
B
I
would
say,
for
public,
there's
no
need
yet
because
we
don't
know
if
there's
any
issues.
Yet
I
think
when
we
boil
this
down,
it
sounds
like
it's.
We're
going
to
get
left
with
the
foreclosure
properties
is
probably
the
category
that's
going
to
get
the
most
discussion
or
debate
or
political
infighting,
and
as
we
boil
this
down,
you
know
that's
when
I
think
it
becomes
more
public
because
either
there
may
be
public
support
for
certain
parcels
and
other
parcels
that
public
may
not
care.
B
B
A
B
B
Good
luck!
All
right
now
we
appreciate
it.
I
mean
it's
it's
kind
of
wading
through
some
of
these
things
that
go
way
back
in
time.
Right
is
interesting,
so
that
is
that's
that
action,
and
I
appreciate
that
the
only
other
things
I
had
is
well.
If
you,
if
you
saw
in
the
paper,
I
did
get
interviewed
by
the
day.
B
I
think
the
point
was
there
was,
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
first
time
the
trend
towards
the
value
of
open
space
being
more
significant
than
oh,
it's
a
nice
place
to
walk
right,
and
I
think
that
came
out
more
than
what
I've
seen
in
history,
which
is
good.
I
mean
that's.
What
we've
been
promoting
is
that
this
stuff
has
value.
B
You
know
well
beyond.
You
know
the
value
of
you
know
hugging
a
tree,
so
I
thought
it
was.
It
was
a
move
forward.
I
suggested
oh
she.
I
can't
remember
how
it
when
I
suggested
to
her
that
there
might
be
a
set
of
follow-on
articles
on
climate
change
right
and
how
it
affects
groton
locally.
You
know,
you
know
not
the
thing.
B
You
know
the
whole
world
is
changing
and
the
temperature,
but
what
does
it
mean
us
right
here
in
groton,
so
she
thought
that
was
a
good
idea.
I
don't
know
we'll
see
what
happens,
but
I
think
that's
something
that
you
know
we
could
think
about.
As
is
topics,
I
suggest
it
just
be
a
series,
because
it's
too
damn
big
is
you
know.
Is
there
a
a
specific
starting
point
or
a
topic
that
you
know
we
might
want
to
point
them
on
that?
B
B
The
only
the
one
last
one
I
had
was,
I
was
at
the
no
inc
executive
council
and
the
town
council
meeting
where
they
discussed
zero
river
view,
which
is
this
little
0.1
acres
0.2.
I
mean
it's
really
small
that
that's
down
in
no
ink
and
there's
this
legal
kerfuffle
going
on.
But
for
the
most
part,
there's
not
I
mean
it's.
It's
not
didn't
reach
our.
B
E
B
B
There
was
nothing
conservation
about
it
right
unless
you
consider
coastal
access
and
even
that
with
the
rocks
there,
you
can
maybe
walk
out
there
and
throw
a
fishing
line,
but
that's
about
it.
You
can't
launch
anything
from
there.
So
so
does
anyone
else
have
a
different
perspective
from
the
commission
point
of
view,
gray.
C
B
Well,
what
they're
trying
to
do
is
say
that
there's
no
place
to
park,
so
they're,
basically
trading
a
small
part
of
the
beachfront
for
parking
to
allow
people
to
actually
go
there
and
then
walk
down
and
throw
their
fishing
line.
In
I
mean
that
that's
kind
of
a
really
short
made
a
really
long
argument
shortened,
but
that's
kind
of
what
they're
doing
so
nobody's
talking
about
getting
rid
of
it.
They're
just
trying
to
make
it
my
view
more
usable
right.
C
B
So
you
know
so
I
said:
let
them
fight
that
out,
because
then
there's
legal
battles
and
who
owns
what
and
I
you
know
so
all
right.
So
I
you
know,
I
appreciate
that
comment
and
there
was
at
least
one
town
council
member
that
doesn't
want
to
give
up
any
oceanfront,
even
a
foot.
So
so
I
think
there's
a
voice
there
for
that.
That
perspective
other
comments
or
input
or
feedback.
B
E
D
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
I
know
I
got
I
got.
I
got
the
two
con
confabulated
in
my
head,
so
it
was
really
two
memos
one
was
on
the
the
parcels
that
we
talked
about.
The
other
one
was
the
white
paper
which
went,
went
forward,
yeah
you're
right.
Why
did
I
get
those
too
confused?
The
white
paper
went
forward
and
the
initial
reaction
from
the
mayor
of
the
city
was
I'm
not
interested.
B
We
went
back
tom
and
I
went
back
and
talked
to
bert
directly
who
then
he
went
back
again
and
asked
the
mayor.
Why
hasn't
he
talked
to
the
conservation
commission
to
understand
what
we
really
meant.
I
haven't
heard
anything
from
the
mayor.
I
mean
that's
kind
of
where
that
stands,
so
we
did
follow
up
on
the
action
that
the
commission
agree.
You
know
requested
happen
and
you
know
we
went
through
the
first
pushback
and
we're
still
working
on
the
second
bush.