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From YouTube: Groton Conservation Commission 5/3/21
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting May 3, 2021: Conservation Commission. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/file/getfile/52137
A
Okay,
so
this
is
the
may
third
town
of
groton
conservation
commission
meeting
here
is
larry
dunn.
My
name
is
bruce
lofkin
from
the
office
of
planning
and
development
services.
A
Any
members
of
the
public
would
like
to
speak.
They
could
do
so
during
the
public
communications
portion
of
the
agenda.
You
can
do
stuff.
By
raising
your
virtual
hand,
the
chairman
will
call
on
you
one
by
one
with
that,
if
you'd
like
to
take
the
roll
call
and
start
the
meeting.
B
All
right,
let's
okay,
we
got
larry
done
chair,
I'm
gonna
go
by
my
screen,
tom.
C
D
B
B
D
B
Well,
we
are
all
accounted
for,
so
that's
that's
good
and
first
order
of
business
is
the
april
fifth
minutes
to
already
yes
go
ahead.
E
G
B
A
B
C
Yes,
on
item
4.3
open
space
workbook,
I
agree
that
we
had
a
discussion
about
the
birch
plain
creek.
There
was
a
motion
by
michelle.
That
was
then
didn't
receive
a
second,
but
I
thought
we
had
a
second
motion
to
accept
the
the
as
to
accept
the
goals
and
as
presented
for
the
birch
plain
creek.
So
I'm
a
little
con
confused
now
from
my
notes.
C
C
Well
then
I
you
know,
I
that's
what
I'm
saying
that's
kind
of.
I
was
looking
for
these
to
make
sure
that
we
had
a
clear
understanding,
because
I
I
walked
away,
assuming
that
we
did
have
a
second
vote
and
stuff
if
we
didn't,
I
I'm
an
error,
and
so
I
will
go
back
and
and
make
sure
and
make
a
representation
of
that.
But
that's
come
it's
not
included
in
today's
package.
B
D
Yeah
michelle,
if
it's
patrick,
I
you
know
tom,
I
thought
I
I
realized
it
later
in
the
discussion
that
that
do
we
even
have
that
we
didn't
have
a
second
vote.
I
thought
about
it,
but
then
I
didn't
bring
it
back
up
again,
so
I
don't
think
we
ever
actually
voted
on
the
birch
plane.
D
C
D
B
All
right,
I
I
know
we
discussed
it.
I
know
we
agreed
upon
the
changes
so.
D
B
All
right,
so
let
we
can
go
fix
that
now
it
is
out
there
on
the
website
with
the
changes
so
tom.
I
believe
that
the
changes
made
were.
C
I
made
changes
to
it
based
on
the
discussion
that
we
had,
just
as
I
did
with
the
other
ones,
and
then
I
I
was
under
the
impression
that
we
had
voted
on
it.
It
was
my
error
I
apologize
for
that
and
I
submitted
it
to
you
to
for
social
composting,
because
I
was
under
the
impression
that
we
had
passed
it,
but
not
reading
the
minutes.
B
So
that
was
bert's
plane.
Let
me
let
me
oh,
I
do
have
it
up
here,
but
it's
playing
so
most
of
it
was
on
the
recommendations,
correct
the
changes.
That's.
C
C
B
So
these
are
the
recommendations
and
they
did
have
the
changes.
So
I
guess
I'll
entertain
a
motion
for
the
record
to
approve
the
birch
plane
creek,
as
amended
in
the
april
5th
edition.
A
Larry
sorry
to
interrupt
you
do
you
want
to
do
this
under
we?
We
can't.
We
can't
make
a
motion
today
and
add
it
to
the
minute
from
last
meeting.
Do
you
want
me.
B
No,
no,
I
I
wasn't
going
to
this
was
just
a
motion
for
this
meeting.
I'm
just
trying
to
get
it
off
the
plate,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
fix
it.
So
it's
yeah,
so
I
I
kind
of
took
a
sidebar
that
says
we
identified
an
issue
and
I'm
just
trying
to
solve
the
issue
by
having
a
motion
which
you
can
then
reflect
in
in
today's
minutes
of
meeting.
G
As
I
was
reading,
the
stewardship
plans
there's
an
echo,
is
this:
anyone
else
have
that
or
is
it
just
me,
okay?
Well,
so,
as
I
was
reading
the
stewardship
plans,
I
realized
that
there's
a
typo
that
is
in
all
of
them,
I
believe
so
tom
I
didn't
realize
I
was
reading
when
under
h
it
says
historical
and
recreational
summary
and
I
kept
reading
underneath
it
as
so
no
known
historical
sites,
ruined
cemeteries
or
reactional
points,
and
I
didn't
it
didn't
click
that
it
probably
is
supposed
to
be.
Recreational
police.
G
It's
a
real
word
yeah,
so
h,
larry.
D
C
C
B
For
that
that
spelling
change,
but
for
this
for
the
wreck
for
the
record,
for
today,
you
get
a
motion
to
accept
the
planes.
C
A
B
C
This
is
tom
wilson.
I
will
update
the
the
thing
to
reflect
the
change
date
to
today
vice
the
april
date
and
resubmit
that,
with
the
corrections
to
back
to
bruce
later
this
week,.
B
B
A
B
All
right,
I
think,
I
saw
tom's
hand
first,
michelle,
I
think,
second,
for
seconding,
okay,
all
in
favor.
Would
you
please
raise
your
hand
one
two,
three
four,
five,
all
right,
it's
unanimous
so
bruce
there
are
some
edits
and
changes
that
I'm
assuming
that
you
recorded
yeah.
I
got
it
down.
Okay,
michelle.
D
D
I
can
sell
whatever's
ready
and
then
just
you
know
every
once
in
a
while,
go
there
and
sign
what's
needed
right,
or
are
you
not
ready
for
me
to
do
that.
A
No,
we
definitely
have
some.
I
mean
we
got
a
new
administrative
assistant,
that's
working
through
it,
okay,
taking
all
the
edits
so
yeah
I
mean
we
definitely
have
a
pile
of
that
already,
so
you
can
send
some
but
they're,
not
all
ready.
So
I
don't
know
how
many
times
you
want
to
come,
but
it's
up
to
you.
B
Okay
all
right
next
is
then
public
communications,
and
we
have
three
members
of
the
public
and
elizabeth
has
raised
her
hand.
I
I
I
Okay,
hello,
members
of
the
commission,
my
name
is:
I
live
at
81
main
street,
I'm
speaking
this
evening
on
behalf
of
groton
conservation
advocates
on
april
17th,
the
town
council
had
one
of
their
many
budget
meetings
and
one
of
the
items
they
addressed
was
a
25
000
item
to
put
into
the
open
space
fund.
I
I
I
The
council
then
had
several
amendments
to
the
proposed
twenty
five
thousand
one
first,
one
for
thousand
it
bounced
back
and
forth.
They
ended
up
approving
ten
thousand
dollars,
so
there
will
only
be
ten
thousand
dollars
in
the
fund
besides
having
something
on
hand
for
open
space,
recognizing
that
even
25
is
a
very
small
amount,
but
a
good
step
toward
building
it
back
up.
I
The
whole
issue
of
climate
change
in
dealing
with
resiliency
may
need,
may
cause
needs
for
the
town
to
spend
money
on
open
space
to
protect
against
climate
change.
So
we're
up
that
we're
raising
this
with
you,
because
the
budget
still
has
to
go
before
the
rtm.
B
Thank
you
in
terms
of
the
history.
I
know
you,
you
did
a
little
research
and
I
think
you
had
indicated
that
there's
been
some
additions
to
the
fund
because
of
developers
but
from
the
town
allocating
it.
I
thought
you
said
from
26.
There
hasn't
been
a
submission
since
2016.
Is
that
correct.
I
Right
right,
I
think
that
is
true,
and
so
this
is
like
an
important
step
in
the
right
direction.
It
seems
to
me,
after
years
of
neglect,
neglected
an
area
that
the
town
should
have
been
putting
some
money
into
every
year,
so
there
was
a
pretty
good
proposal,
which
was
swatted
back
to
just
ten
thousand
dollars,
which
seems
to
us
to
be
a
very
weak
contribution,
considering
the
fact
that
they
have
just
committed
to
hiring
staff
or
to
work
on
climate
change,
and
that
this
is
an
important
source
of
funds
over
time
to
address
climate
change.
B
Right
so
I
think
there's
two
questions
on
the
table
here.
One
is
bruce,
do
you
can
you
find
out
when
this
section
of
the
budget
will
be
discussed
at
the
rtm.
B
If,
if
he
could
find
out
through
you
know
the
town
staff,
when
that's
coming
up,
if
it's
coming
up
tonight,
then
we
got
a
problem,
but
I'm
assuming
that
that
this
will
come
up
later
in
the
cycle.
Given
it
came
up
later
in
the
cycle
at
the
at
the
town
council
meeting,
then
the
second
question
would
be
the
gca
indicated
they
were
going
to
provide
input
to
the
rtm.
E
Oh
yeah,
I
was
actually
shocked
when
I
heard
this
information
because
my
impression
of
the
town
councils-
they
were
behind
this,
you
know
having
working
with
carbon
sequestration,
making
moves
towards
global
warming,
and
especially
after
a
year
of
the
pandemic,
when
families
in
groton
have
been
out
enjoying
and
using
more
than
ever
open
space
appreciating
it
and
using
it
of
all
the
years
to
cut
the
budget
to
practically
nothing.
I
I
was
just
frankly
shocked.
I
don't
know
who
on
the
council
was
behind
this,
but
you
know.
B
E
G
B
C
C
Once
the
town
council
has
made
their
decision
and
and
from
watching
the
video
myself,
there
was
a
lot
of
confusion
going
on
and
it
was
a
very
close
vote
and
one
guy
one
counselor
went
to
the
bathroom
and
ended
up
when
the
vote
came
up.
He
wasn't
there
to,
and
he
said
I
would
have
voted
in
favor
and
would
have
passed
to
the
25
000..
He
made
a
motion
to
make
it
27
000
to
make
it
to
be
able
to
reset
it
and
stuff.
So
there
it
was.
C
It
was
on
the
you
know.
A
lot
of
things
went
on
during
that
process
that
it
was
very
confusing
and
it
was
a
split
vote.
So
that's
one
thing
we
have
to
recognize.
Is
that
there's
a
lot
of
pressure
on
the
town
right
now,
but
at
least
they
they
honor.
The
commitment
and
I
have
to
give
mayor
grantowski
a
significant
credit
for
being
into
explaining
the
situation
before
the
vote.
C
As
far
as
what's
happening
with
this
person,
this
account
she,
I
think
she
did
a
very
admirable
job
and,
and
she
understood
it
and
that's,
but
that's
the
end
of
the
results.
So
our
town
council
made
a
recommendation
to
the
rtm.
I
don't
see
from
looking
at
the
schedule
for
the
rtm,
where
they're
taking
any
public
comment
at
this
point,
so
they
take
the
budget
and
they're
gonna
review
it
at
each
with
each
subcommittee.
Typically,
what
happened
last
year
was.
C
This
was
one
was
literally
the
last
item
in
the
cips
when
it
was
even
at
a
zero
level,
but
the
cips
are
the
last
things
that
will
be
looked
at
so
that
I
anticipate
they
would
be
whatever
the
last
meeting
scheduled
meeting
is
in
may
in
the
20s,
let's
say
21st
to
22nd.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
have
an
opportunity
to
put
anything
in,
but
we
can
and
that's
what
we
really
need
to
know
is.
C
Is
the
rtm
taking
any
public
comment
other
than
individual
emails
to
individual
rtm
members,
as
a
as
a
constituent
to
to
your
representative
is
about
the
only
thing
that
I
know?
That's
that's
effective,
so
I
think
what
liz
is
asking
is
is
the
way
I
interpret
what
what
this
race
back
is
saying
here
is
this
is
she's
encouraging
each
one
of
us
as
as.
C
Commission
members
to
be
going
to
our
rtm
person,
in
my
case
it's
like
bruce
jones
and
from
from
district
8
and
and
and
as
such,
to
make
our
voices
known
and
to
be
able
to
influence
the
rtm
vote
because
you
do
have
you
know:
40
rtm
members
that
are
going
to
be
looking
at
this
and
making
a
final
vote.
So
I
think
that's
about
all.
C
We
can
do
at
this
point
as
a
as
the
commission,
and
so
when
I
I
applaud
the
action
that
at
least
we
got
a
marker
in
there
we
got
some
money
so-
and
this
is-
and
this
was
all
part
of
the
pcod
to
put
in
place
a
an.
J
C
Input
into
the
into
this,
the
the
town
manager
supported
at
the
25
000
level.
It's
because
of
the
you
know
a
lot
of
issues.
It
got
reduced
and
that's
going
to
happen,
and
so
what
we
need
to
do
is
just
remember
for
next
year
to
get
this
thing
up
rather
than
25.
It
should
be.
C
You
know,
probably
40
000
next
year
is
about
the
best
we
can
hope
for
if
the
if
the
ten
thousand
dollars
holds,
but
it's
got
very
unlikely
that
the
rtm
is
going
to
now,
the
rtm
can
put
it
back
up
into
the
25
000.
C
So
the
only
thing
we
can
do
is
at
this
point,
as
an
individual
members
is
to
is
to
send
emails
off
to
the
individual
counselors
that
are
on
both
on
the
indiv
on
the
cip
portion
to
the
fine
and
to
the
into
the
various
members
that
that
would
be
listening
to
us.
Thank
you.
A
That
sounds
accurate
to
me,
but
I
can't
say
for
sure
whether
or
not
they're
taking
public
comment
during
the
budget
budget
process.
I
don't
know
I
never
been
to
one
of
those
so
from
what
I've
gathered
from
talks.
That
sounds
correct,
but
I
can
check
on
that
too
and
get
back
to
you
at
the
same
time,
I'll,
let
you
know
which
meeting
that
will
be
considered.
B
All
right
so
we'll,
let's
do
the
following.
What
I
heard
was
a
consensus
to
do
the
following:
if,
in
fact,
they
will
accept
inputs
that
the
commission
should
put
forward
to
restore
it
to
the
original
submission
of
25k,
if
that,
if
the
public
comment
isn't
allowed,
then
I
think
we
default
to
tom's
view
that
says,
write
towards
our
individual
rtm
representatives
and
provide
that
input
directly.
B
So
I
think
that
that's
the
two
aspects
of
it
and
we
need
to
hear
back
bruce
from
you
on
what
our
you
know,
which
option
is
the
I
guess
allowable
option
would
be
the
way
to
put
it
all
right.
Thank
you
liz.
We
appreciate
your.
C
B
C
I
did
find
online
here
the
agenda
for
the
cips
and
the
open
space
is
on
here.
Let's
see
if
I
got
the
time
right
here
for
the
first
yeah
open
space
acquisition
will
be
on
thursday
may
6th
is
when.
C
But
I
don't
see
anything
where
that
on
the
agenda.
That's
on
the
agenda
for
the
and
that's
you
know
the
two-page
agenda
that
put
out
the
schedule
for
the
discussions,
I'm
just
looking
on
the
tom
website
here
so
but
I
don't
see
anything,
that's
that's
going
to
have
any
public
input
before
that.
B
All
right
so,
given
that
the
fact
is
two
days
away,
I
guess
that
that
is
kind
of
the
option
we've
got.
So
I
would
ask
each
one
of
us
to
reach
out
to
their
individual
rtm
representatives
and
provide
the
input,
and
I
think
you
know
the
the
point
to
be
made
that
was
brought
up
is
that
in
2016
that's
right,
2016
was.
B
15
000
or
we'll
start
at
this
2017
with
zero
2018
was
zero.
2019
was
zero,
2020
was
zero,
2021
went
in
at
25
and
got
reduced
to
10.,
so
that
says
over
the
last
one,
two
three
four
five
fiscal
years
we're
contributing
ten
thousand
dollars
to
open
space
reserve
fund.
I
mean
it's
not
even
spending,
it's
just
allocating
it.
So
I
think
it.
You
know
it's
it's
worthwhile
to
kind
of
position
it
that
way.
That
says
guys.
This
isn't
something!
That's
you
know
that
you
know
we're
we're
going
overboard
on
clearly
all
right.
A
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
hands
if
anyone
else
would
like
to
speak.
Just
raise
your
virtual
hand,
if
you
can.
F
B
Let's
move
on
so
item
of
business
would
be
the
2021
objectives,
section,
seven
short
term
or
the
action
item.
So
let
me
share
the
screen
and.
B
Okay,
just
gave
me
a
thumbs
up,
I
did
get
input
from
tom
and
for
man
and
myself
so
so
there
are
a
number
of
open
items
on
here.
What
I
would
let
me
do
this
and
just
go.
B
Short
term
and
as
you
can
see,
there's
not
that
many
of
them
so
there's
really
a
focus
on.
I
think
there's
one
two
three.
B
That's
it
three
that
are
not
doesn't
have
a
sponsor.
If
you
are
a
focal
point,
so
I'm
just
gonna
go
quick
and
see
if
there
is
anybody
that
wants
to
volunteer
on
the
spot,
the
2.16.
B
This
deals
with
looking
at
the
prioritization
dealing
primarily
with
the
coastal
program
and
which
would
be
working
with
the
resiliency
sustainability
task
force
and,
at
some
point
with
the
new
person
that's
been
in
the
budget
that
was
just
mentioned
actually
earlier
that
we
would
be
working
with.
Is
there
anyone
interested
in
kind
of
a
focus
on
the
coastal
aspect
of
the.
B
Working
on
a
crosstown
trail
and
working
with
the
parks
and
rec
about
improving
that
so
is
there
somebody
interested
in
the
improving
the
crosstown
trail
aspect
of
the
green
green
belts.
B
Going
once
going
twice,
I
see
it
tom
raising
his
hand.
C
Yeah,
no,
I
didn't
know
if
this
was
really
should
have
the
reason
I
didn't
take
ownership
of
this
one
pre
previously
was
that
I
didn't
know
if
this
is
part
of
this
trails
task
force
actions
and
that
we
should
just
be
coordinating
with
them,
or
that
this
should
be
part
of
our
efforts,
our
overall
efforts
to
get
the
green
belts
and
greenway
configuration
done.
C
I
didn't
know
what
your
task
is,
but
I
you
know
I'll
gladly
help
support
this
one.
If
you
want
to
put
my
name
on
it,
that's
fine,
but
I
didn't
know
I
didn't
know
which
way
we
wanted
to
focus
it.
If
and
I
was
giving
an
opportunity
if
the
trails
task
force,
if
ray
wanted
to
be
taking
that
as
through
the
trails
task
force
actions.
B
C
C
B
All
right
all
right,
let
me
put
that
in
there
and
that's
for
the
short
term
ones.
Now,
let
me
go
back
and
see.
Are
there
any
updates
to
any
of
these
short-term
actions
that
any
of
the
focal
points
would
like
to
provide
input
on?
B
Some
of
those
then
leads
to
a
plan
for
this
one,
so
I
get
that
green
means
it's
completed.
So
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
that
right
right
in
the
last
30
seconds.
Did
you
do
something
on
this
one?
B
See:
okay,
the
nerve
process.
I
know
there
has
been
some
discussions
on
that.
This
one
says:
let's
wait.
The
fourth
quarter
as
they're
chewing
through
that.
B
Let's
see
acquisition
strategy,
yeah
offline
is,
I
have
been
working
on
this
one,
but
there's
no
new
news
to
report
other
than
it's
progressing
and
watch
this
space.
So
it's
think
of
that
as
a
positive
response,
guys
not
a
negative.
B
That
I,
I
am
not
able
to
communicate
to
you
the
zero
flanders
road
one
I
was
going
to
talk
about
a
little
later
on
that
one
is
the
tomorrow's
town
council
meeting
is
going
to
provide
on
the
agenda,
is
to
recommend
that
they
submit
a
bid
for
the
data
center
development
of
that
property.
We
can
talk
about
that
a
little
later.
It
is
on
the
agenda.
B
The
budgets
we
just
talked
about
that
enough
and,
I
think,
establish
an
open
space
education
program.
Now.
That's
interesting.
We've
started
a
little
of
that
with
the
with
the
web
availability
and
some
of
the
videos
we'll
talk
about
another
video
that
that
ann
and
has
has
provided
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
second
again,
as
I'd
like
to
get
through
my
own
view,
I'd
like
to
get
through
the
planning
piece
and
then
come
back
and
update
the
outreach
programs.
That's
just
my
view.
G
G
B
F
No,
the
more
I've
been
going
into
it.
The
more
I
don't
know
about
it,
presented
more
questions
and
answers,
and
I
one
of
the
questions
that
have
come
up
is
item
number
four
on
our
agenda.
B
All
right,
so
that's
a
quick,
a
quick
update
on
that.
So
let
me
get
rid
of
that.
D
Yeah,
I
just
I
mute
it,
so
it's
michelle,
I
I
don't
know
where
it
was
on
the
list,
but
but
I
guess
we'll
talk
about
eventually,
but
one
of
the
the
areas
that
that
I
would
like
to
volunteer
for
was
to
to
work
with
the
volunteers
for
stewardship.
So
once
we
get
to
the
point,
we
figure
out
what
we
want
to
do
with
with
maintaining
the
properties
and
help
and
getting
other
people
to
help
us
do
clean
up
or
whatever
I
volunteer,
to
help
be
part
of
the
team
that
oversees
that.
B
All
right,
very
good,
we're
going
to
talk
about
that
about.
What's
next
after
the
plans
are
approved,
you're
right,
it's
doing
something
about
the
stewardship
of
the
parcels.
So
we'll
talk
about
that
coming
up
matthew.
I
think
it's
the
very
next
another
two
right,
okay,
so
hold
that
thought.
Okay,
and
so
I
I
appreciate
it,
you
know
again,
I
know
we're
all
volunteers
doing
this
stuff,
so
if
at
least
we're
thinking
about
it,
maybe
something
will
happen.
B
The
next
item
is
4.2,
which
is
the
conservation
commission
website
and
videos,
and
I
will
I
will
say
that
thinking
from
the
last
meeting,
though
the
town
got
there,
it
wasn't.
The
town's
issue
was
their
vendors
issue
got
the
issue
resolved.
B
The
the
website
is
back
up
and
running.
The
last
update
I
put
in
is
there
and
if
I
go
to.
B
B
So
you'll
notice
that
in
terms
of
news
is
whoops,
they
flipped
over
here
publishes
new
stewardship
plans,
and
so
that
is
now
under
open
space
stewardship
plans
and
there
was
an
intro
that
tom
and
I
bounced
back
and
forth
for
this
space
and
then
what
we're
doing
is
listing
these
plans
and
these
plans
are
now
the
pdfs.
So
if
you
click
on
birch
street,
the
plan
comes
up
right,
so
so
the
plans
will
be
kind
of
stacked
up
in
here.
B
I
think
the
other
thing
that
was
good.
He
added
so
I
think,
kristen.
I
think
this
was
right.
The
wild
ones
that
got
added.
E
B
All
right
so
that's
there
and
but.
B
Yep,
okay,
so
that's
that's
there!
Let
me
get
rid
of
that
all
right.
The
other
thing,
the
other
one.
Let
me
stop
sharing
there.
B
B
There,
it
is
all
right,
so
let
me
share,
did
it
share
right.
D
G
J
J
J
J
J
B
G
B
What
we're
going
to
do
is
when
you
go
to
the
website,
there's
a
link
for
videos,
let's
see
what
the
heck
today,
what
do
we
call
it?
We
call
that
value.
G
E
B
Video
series
so
we're
going
to
place
that
in
there
and
I
think
we
need
you
know,
maybe
a
one
short
paragraph
and
that
you'd
like
to
introduce
it.
I
and
I
can
add
that
sure.
B
So
I
think
yeah,
so
I
can
think
yeah.
It
has
to
be
short
like
I
only
have
a
certain
amount.
That's
there
on
that
one.
So
that's
great!
So
I
want
to
for
the
for
the
record.
Thank
you
and
your
your
husband
for
that
that
effort.
I
think
that
was
terrific,
all
right,
so
that
was
one
now
we
have
two.
We
don't
you've
doubled
our
videos.
B
Okay,
all
right
now
for
a
the
major
part,
is
the
open
space
stewardship
workbook,
one
of
the
open
items
from
last
meeting
was:
should
we
have
a
criteria
for
usage
of
open
space
parcels
and
karen
did
a
whack
at
that.
B
I
think
that's
it,
so
I
think
it's
right
there,
all
right.
So
karen
would
you
want
to
lead
us
on
this
one.
H
H
Most
of
what
I
have
found
is
that
there's
no
real,
nothing
really
written
what
they
do
is
that,
whether
it's
the
state
or
other
towns,
they
tell
you
in
a
circum
circulatory
way
that
they
need.
You
need
to
be
careful
of
endangered
species,
endangered
flora
or
fauna,
but
there's
nothing
concrete
out
there.
That
says
that,
so
I
took
my
readings
and
did
a
little
bit
more
reading
came
up
with
this
list
and
tom.
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
I
went
to
the
two
sites.
H
H
H
I
think
it's
one
of
the
things
I
saw
in
the
green
plan
in
section
4.3,
I
think
it
was
was
that
we
do
have
some
and
we
do
have
some
birds
and
we
have
the
cottontail
rabbit
in
our
area
and
their
habitats
are
to
be
protected,
but
whether
they
are
in
our
open
space
or
not.
I
have
no
idea
of
knowing,
and
there
are
flora
that
in
the
wetlands
area
they
they're
talking
a
lot
in
the
green
plan
and
in
some
of
the
other
state
coastal
resiliency
things.
B
All
right,
I
I
think
by
looking
at
these
when
you
get
to
the
action
recommended
actions
in
each
of
the
ones
they're
they're
pretty
much
addressed.
I
think
so.
I
I
think
I
would
kind
of
agree
with
you
that
you
know
additional
criteria
is
probably
the
wrong
word
additional
factors
other
than
the
ones
that
they
already
have.
You
know
that
your
research
didn't
add
any
additional
factors.
B
So
no
so
we
can
check
the
box
on
that
and
appreciate
that
you
did
that,
but
given
that
then
I'd
like
to
get
into
plans
so
tom,
why?
Why
can't
I
see
tom
here
on
my
little
box
here.
B
There's
tom
hi
so
bob
this
is.
This
is
an
accounting
I
guess
of
where
we're
at.
C
C
C
But
you
know
I
don't
as
far
as
for
what's
next
up.
As
far
as
I'd
like
to
talk
about
things
in
general,
first,
one
of
the
proposals
that
we're
seeing
as
I've
been
working,
these
individual
plans
up
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
repetitiveness
to
them
relative
to
the
type
of
property
you
see,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
see
is
that
we
may
be
considering
lumping
some.
C
You
know
having
a
standardized
small,
what
we
consider
like
a
small
parcel
stewardship
plan
and
then
just
list
the
uniqueness
of
this.
If
each
individual
parcel
like
if
it's
on
the
green
belt
or
if
it's
got
some
unique
aspect
of
a
historical
site
or
a
cemetery
or
something
you
know
just
and
come
up
with
some
kind
of
matrix,
that
of
of
uniqueness,
but
having
a
standards
plan
rather
than
spending
the
time
to
develop,
going
into
the
details
of
some
of
the
soils
and
all
this
type
of
stuff.
C
Because
it
does
get
somewhat
repetitive,
so
I
didn't
know
if
that
would
be.
If
anybody
would
have
objections
to
that
because
from
the
commission,
because
the
subcommittee
we
kind
of
thought
that
was
a
good
idea,
but
just
one
to
me
from
the
large
committee
on
a
go-forward
basis
and
that
we
we
may
want
to
consider
it
as
as
you
and
yeah
I've
got.
C
Some
good
examples
here
is
that
some
of
these
that
we
that
are
in
the
today's
package
that
was
sent
in
the
agenda
packages
that
were
sent
out
would
meet
that
kind
of
criteria
that
are
relatively
small,
there's
minimum
trails
or
anything
on
it.
It's
just
vacant
land
that
the
town's
holding
as
open
space,
principally
due
to
either
for
watershed
protection
or
for
carbon
sequestration
purposes,
and
so
I
would
like
to
know
from.
C
If
larry,
you
could
coordinate
kind
of
a
a
consensus
that
we
could
put
together
lump
sum
of
these
together
and
we
as
a
subcommittee
we'll
take
those
and
put
those
together
into
a
what
we
consider
a
small
parcel
or
vacant
parcel
or
you
know,
will
come
up
with
some
proper
terminology,
but
they
would
all
have
the
same
stewardship
actions
and
stuff
related
to
them.
B
B
So
I
guess
the
the
question
on
the
table
is
for
parcels
less
than
10.
Is
it
appropriate
to
subset
that
into
one
two
or
whatever,
of
common
stewardship
plans
that
cover
those
specific
types
of
areas?
So
I
think
I'm
not
sure
I
think
michelle's
hand
was
first
apologize.
Kristen.
D
Yeah,
it's
michelle,
it's
patrick,
I
tom.
That
sounds
really
great.
I
agree
that
that
there's
no
sen
I
mean
for
those
small
small
parcels.
Just
just
do
the
general
thing.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
G
J
G
General
comments:
I
was
wondering
if
just
throwing
this
out,
I
don't
really
know,
but
for
a
watershed,
should
there
always
be
some
restrictions
like
protection
of
or
no
film.
You
know
it
seems
like
I
don't
know
something
that
should
always
be
included
in
the
stewardship
plan.
If
it's
part
of
a
watershed.
B
C
Yeah
tummles
again,
I
I
appreciate
that
comment
because
that's
one
thing
I
really
had
not
been
looking
at
when
I
was
thinking
about
this,
but
I
I
like
that
suggestion
is
to
break,
but
anything
that
has
a
watershed
or
any
type
of
watershed
protection.
We
could
make
that
a
separate
category
and
it
was
just
if
it's.
C
With
more
and
come
up
with
specialized
watershed
protection
group
and
then
have
a
separate
carbon
sequestration
group
or
cover
sequestration,
only
group
and
that
could
be
put
together,
I
think
bray
and
ann,
and
I
can
do
that
on
a
go
forward
basis
for
the
next
grouping
that
we
would
be
presenting
to
you.
If
that
would
be.
I
I
like
that
idea.
F
Right
this
is
bright.
One
comment
that
I
would
make
is
when
the
town
was
setting
aside
many
of
these
less
than
10
acre
wet
areas,
they
were
doing
it
to
protect
the
water
courses
through
the
town
and
over
the
years
the
feeling,
through
the
planning
department,
was
to
have
them
in
town
oversight
rather
than
in
private
hands.
F
F
So
I
I
like
what
tom
is
suggesting
to
do
by
putting
things
into
groups,
because
oftentimes
will
look
on
a
two-dimensional
piece
of
map
about
a
physical
piece
of
property.
F
B
All
right,
so
I
think
tom
what
I've
heard
is
a
consensus
that
yay
yay
barely
go
forward
with
the
groupings,
but
I
think
the
groupings
of,
as
you
said,
carbon
sequestration
or
you
know
watershed
protection,
a
lot
groupings
of
that
nature,
rather
than
some
other
physical
parameters.
C
Yes,
I
agree
with
you
and
then-
and
so
I
I
will
take
some
of
these
on
I
just
come
out-
was
very
interested
in
trying
to
get
some
plans
out
here
for
people
to
take
a
look
at,
and
I
appreciate
them
being
attached
to
the
agenda
tonight
because
I
think
you'll
see
some
of
these
ex
good
examples
of
these,
such
as
the
kerrigan,
where
it
it's
right,
alongside
a
brook
you've
got
some
things
up
in
that
are
that
are
actually
storm
drainage
areas
and
we
are,
we
already
had
one
with
dry
stack
drive,
which
is
all
100
wetlands.
C
So
I
think
we'll
need
to
re-go
back
and
take
a
look
at
these
and
reconsider
one
for
that,
one
in
particular.
Do
we
want
to
put
it
over
shift
it
over
into
this
grouping
for
the
less
than
10
acres,
but
we'll
take
that
on
and
come
back
with?
I
don't
know
if
we'll
get
it
for
the
june
meeting
or
not.
C
B
All
right
very
good,
so
what
we
want
to
do,
then,
is
get
right
into
the
first
one
here,
which
is
this
gary
court,
as
one
he's
kind
of
go
through
now,
go
ahead.
C
Yeah
dear
court
is
a
good
example
of
a
standalone
property
and
we
put
three
parcels
into
this
management
plan.
There's
the
one
with
the
that
physically
they're,
you
know
three
of
them
together
make
a
big
triangle
that
abuts
onto
the
this
is
to
the
to
the
on
the
right
hand,
side
or
to
the
east
of
the
plan.
That's
all
hayley
brooke
I
mean
the
haley
farm
to
the
south,
is
mumford
cove
and
to
the
east
is,
is
all
either
residential
or
the
amtrak
yard.
C
So
the
three
parcels
that
were
that
were
shown
there
is
the
water
pollution
control.
That's
always
the
the
buildings
and
stuff.
That's
what
it's
eight
acres
of
the
about
40
acres
here
that
are
that
are
in
total
of
this
entire
three
parcels
through
the
middle
of
it
is
the
is
the
is
just
for
everyone's
orientation
is
the
g,
the
gns
trolley
line,
the
bronze
or
the
old
broad
stonington
trolley
line.
C
It's
a
paved
bike
and
and
recreation
access
that
joins
haley,
the
hayley
state
forest
with
the
midway
oval
community
area.
So
that's
bisex,
you
know
diagonally
from
the
northwest
to
the
south
east
corner
or
southeast
corner
portion
of
the
parcel.
C
But
this
one
has
you
know
wetlands
in
it
obviously
going
into
mumford
cove
and
the
fort
hill
brook
transit.
It
goes
vertical.
You
almost
do
north
and
south
through
the
through
the
through
the
three
parcels.
So
this
one
has
everything
in
it.
It's,
and
so,
if
you
wanna,
I
you
know,
I'm
not
gonna
go
through
all
the
issues
that
you
know
the
standard
stuff.
As
far
as
the
soils
and
it's
all,
it's
all
documented
there's
critical
habitat
on
this
parcel.
But
these
are
the
management
recommendations.
C
That's
what
we
were
focusing
in
on
that
we
agreed
to
focus
in
on
the
management,
recommendations,
sections
four
and
number
five
the
recommendations,
so
this
does
show
up
as
part
of
on
the
on
the
green
belts,
the
boundary
markers
signage
public.
C
The
reason
I
have
left
public
use
encouragement
on
established
trails
is
that
there's
a
because
of
the
proximity
of
hailey
farm
state
park
abutting
it
a
number
of
trails
have
been
put
just
developed
naturally
by
the
local
visitors
from
the
park
just
going
over,
because
there's
no
clear
demarcation
line,
there's
a
stone
wall
that
runs
essentially
the
length
there,
but
it's
broken
in
a
few
spots
and
people
either
walk
right
over
it
or
there's.
C
There's
natural
breaks
in
it
that
they
allows
them
both
for
walkers,
as
well
as
bicycle,
mountain
bicycles,
to
get
onto
the
onto
the
town,
property
and
they've
been
using.
It
there's
some
fairly
well
established
trails
that
are
actually
marked
with
spray
paint
and
that
type
of
stuff.
On
this
on
this
on
the
between
the
three
parcels.
So
that's
the
kind
of
I
said
I
I'm
not
in
the
position.
C
I
don't
think
it's
our
job
here
to
to
take
take
ownership
of
these
and
turn
them
into
a
parts
and
rex
things,
but
is
just
to
maybe
come
up
with
some
way
in
the
future.
To
just
have
the
public
stay
on
those
marked
established
trails
that
are
there
and
not
expand
them
at
all,
but
I
think
we
have
to
recognize
that
there,
the
public
is
using
these
already
that
there's
a
net
there's
a
natural
demand
for
them
is
that
we
should
continue
to
encourage
that
and
the
rest
of
the.
C
G
C
Yeah
the
plan
there
right
there's
your
10-year
management
plan,
so
the
full
part
is,
you
know,
identify
the
existing
hiking
and
biking
trails.
We
might
want
to
work
with
the
nimba
people,
then,
and
mark
our
boundaries,
as
typical
survey
areas
uses
their
interest.
C
The
friends
of
the
consenticus
state
parks
as
an
angosa
both
have
potential
survey
partners.
As
far
as
on
these,
because
gosa
is
a
as
administrative
support
for
hailey's
farm
state
park,
so
they
they've
got
a
vested
interest
in
it,
and
they've
been
working
with
the
with
the
state
park
rangers
there
and
stuff
and
then
obviously
the
friends
of
the
connecticut
state
parks.
I
don't
know
how
much
they're
really
into
it,
but
there's
been
another
area
of
potential
for
us
to
go.
C
Look
as
partnering
for
for
future
aspects
of
this,
and
so
and
then
the
only
other
thing
is
that,
because
we
need
to,
as
far
as
some
special
contacts
here
was
to
be
making
sure
that
we're
working
with
public
works
because
they
do
have
the
fenced
in
area
on
this,
on
the
property
for
the
sewage
or
for
the
water
pollution
control
activities
that
they
had
on
their
facility.
C
So
so
that's
the
the
recommendations
that
I
wanted
to
discuss.
So
I
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
accept
this.
The
gary
court,
water
pollution
control
facility
management
plans,
as
presented.
C
Motion
I
have
no
further
discussion
on
this.
One.
F
Oh
yeah,
alright,
I
have
a
quick
question
for
tom
of
all
the
properties.
You've
done
such
a
wonderful
job
of
mapping,
these
things
out
and
visiting
in
your
pictures
and
so
forth,
and
I
really
appreciate
it.
I,
the
one
thing
is
on
this.
F
Particular
property
is
the
only
one
future
sustainability
with
sea
level
rise
because
of
the
art
hill
brook
area
at
the
top
of
monthly
cove
is
titled
and
it's
titled
underneath
the
bridge
and
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
far
up
it
goes,
but
when
you
think
about
sea
level
rising
further
flooding
in
that
particular
area,
I
think
somewhere
in
your
discussion
that
should
be
mentioned.
C
Good
point:
I
didn't
really
have
very
much
information
of
how
we
wanted
to
address
that,
because
it's-
and
this
is
you
know-
you
bring
up
a
very
interesting
point,
because
the
format
for
these
I
had
taken
for
the
the
lta,
the
land,
trust
alliance
and
their
format
didn't
really
have
a
section
in
there.
C
But
I
have
no
issue
with
before
this
goes
to
final
version
of
adding
some
discussion
in
the
resiliency
in
this
in
this
area
between
the
hydrology,
the
you
know
in
the
in
the
section
two
here
I
can
expand
on
on
some
of
the
title
stuff
in
that
I
would
gladly
do
that
prior
to
for
prior
to
a
final
adopting
approval
action.
C
I
will
put
some
words
in
there
to
address
the
the
expectations
of
where
we
are
and
take
a
look
at
potentially,
because
this
is
again
you
bring
up
a
good
point.
C
This
is
the
first
one
that
is
in
a
title
area,
and
so
we
haven't
looked
at
this
in
in
our
in
the
other
ones
that
we
looked
at
last
month,
and
I
can
I
can
easily
incorporate
that
into
section
two
and
and
put
a
where
what
I
can
do
here,
I
think,
is
to
take
a
look
at
the
title
maps
that
we
have
from
from
the
from
clear
from
the
state
of
canada,
uconn,
clear
and
they'll
they
in
a
blow
up
one
and
and
incorporate
that
into
the
hydrology
area.
B
All
right
now,
that's
good,
hey
tom.
The
one
comment
I
looked
is
that
I
noticed
at
least
on
this
property
there's
some
trash,
but
it's
old
trash.
In
other
words,
it
doesn't
look
like
it's
a
recent
dump
area,
but
there
are
a
series
of
old,
rusted
barrels
and
other
things.
So
yeah.
Is
there
a
criteria
for
when,
when
trash
removal
or
cleanup
is
warranted
versus
not.
C
I
have
not
tried
to
get
down
on
that
level.
I
I
felt
that
any
of
those
type
of
actions
relative
to
clean
ups
and
stuff
would
be
addressed
as
part
of
the
volunteer
effort
as
we
move
forward
in
the
action
plan,
and
let
them
make
a
determination
some
of
this
stuff
this
this,
where
a
lot
of
this
crash
is
on
this
particular
parcel,
is
on
a
road
that
comes
out
of
the
area
from
the
water
pollution
control
facility.
It's
going
towards
the
train
tracks
and.
C
It
looks
like
it
was
very
accessible
to
be
able
to
drive
stuff
in
there,
and
so
we
may
want
to
con
and
there's
also
a
number
I
didn't
get
pictures
of
them,
but
there's
a
number
of
concrete
blocks
and
stuff
that
have
been
put
out
there
too.
So
I
don't
know
if
public
works
has
more
of
it.
What
I
did
do
with
this
is,
I
have
sent
this
particular
plan
over
to
public
works.
I
dealt
with
michelle
maitland
and
she
passed
it
on
to
mr
hanover.
The
public
works
director.
C
He
requested
some
additional
time
to
review
it,
and
so,
but
I
wanted
to
get
it
on
the
agenda
for
us,
so
I
will
take.
I
will
they
typically
have
not
had
much
input
from
their
review.
They
acknowledged
and
said
yeah.
C
This
all
looks
fine,
but
I
I
will
ask
public
works
to
take
this
under
consideration,
as
far
as
on
contrast,
removal
that
they
may
be
willing
to
do
this
as
part
of
because
it's
they
have
some
vested
interest
in
this
area
relative
to
water
pollution
control,
stuff
that
would
be
going
into
the
into
the
fall
hero,
brick
after
their
facility.
E
B
Right
so
so
I'm
in
I've
been
walking
down
there
for
20
years
now.
So
it's
now
a
little
harder
to
see
cause
it's
kind
of
got
overgrown,
but
they're.
C
B
That
road
used
to
be
accessible
by
a
truck
or
something
and
it's
no
longer
accessible.
I
think
so,
like
I
said,
like
I
said,
it's
old
trash,
it's
not
neutral,
but
all
right
other
other
comments
or
inputs.
B
So
we
have
a
motion.
Would
you
want
to
amend
that
motion
with
comments,
as
mentioned
by
bray.
C
Yes,
I
I
will
lend
the
motion
to
include
the
count.
The
incorr
incorporated
comments
from
this
discussion
into
it
prior
to
final
publication.
B
All
right,
the
second
who
was
the
second
on
that.
C
H
B
H
B
All
right
all
right
of
the
amended
motion
on
gary
court.
Please
raise
your
hands
all
right.
That's
unanimous!
Thank
you,
tom
and
team
that
there's
good
stuff
there.
The
next
one
that
you
had
on
your
pergulas
was
mystic
way.
B
C
I'll
walk
us
through
this
one.
Also
here
again,
this
is
mystic.
Meadows
is
down
internal
to
the
area
around
jetson
avenue
and
the
subdivision
that's
been
developed
over
that
area
on
this
map.
Here
this
is
from
the
town's
open
space
map.
You
see
where
route
1
is
the
mystic
meadows.
Green
area
is
what's
being
currently
maintained
by
parks
and
rec,
there's
actually
a
playground
on
it
that
type
of
stuff.
C
So
they
have
responsibility
for
that
portion
of
the
mystic
meadows
across
the
street
across
from
judson
there's
an
like
an
armed
peninsula
that
goes
in
and
then
a
and
then
two
parcels
that
are
then
are
connected
again
down
to
another
area,
part
of
ramblebrook,
so
that
we're
talking
only
these
two
parcels
that
are
in
purple
on
here
and
they're
they're
marked
along
the
the
eastern
side
by
the
pictures
up
there
from
and
also
at
the
very
far
end
on
judson,
but
the
rest
of
the
boundary
is
unmarked
other
than
through
some
stone
walls,
partial
partial
stone
walls.
C
Right
the
two
tag
parcels
there,
but
the
better
representation,
but
you
can
see
it's
completely
all
forested
as
a
significant
amount
of
wetlands
in
those
areas.
C
Yeah,
if
you've
got
what
you
can
just
skip
ahead
down
here,
because
the
rest
of
it
is
all
fairly
standard,
there's
no
critical
habitats
in
this
area,
and
then,
but
it
is,
this
does
show
up
in
our
areas
for
to
get
being
able
to
transit
in
towards
the
green
belt
areas
where
just
where
we
adjacent
now,
it's
not
directly
on
a
green
belt,
depending
on
how
we
do
develop
the
green
belts,
there's
a
potential
for
it
in
here.
C
That's
why
I
still
left
it
in
here,
because
it's
fairly
close
to
being
on
a
green
belt.
As
far
as
on
which
way
you
want
to
be
cutting
the
green
belt
as
far
as
really
kind
of
focusing
getting
down
to
the
bb
pond
from
pequot
woods,
it's
really
the
interconnector
between
those
two
large
parcels
that
are
already
maintained.
C
So
these
other
ones
here
again
we're
not
advocating
for
any
trails.
This
would
be
a
because
it's
a
larger
parcel.
I
recommend
that
this
one
be
a
standalone.
C
C
So
this
one
is
a
very,
very
simple
10-year
management
plan,
no
special
contacts,
it's
just
get
you
know,
take
a
look
and
do
some
area
cleanups
and
then
doing
some
boundary
marking
were
the
only
two
things
on
this
particular
parcel
because
the
the
recreation
areas
are
already
been
as
well
established,
and
this
is
just
the
interconnecting
areas
for
both
the
watershed
protection
that
goes
in
as
well
as
the
carbon
sequestration.
C
F
F
So
I
would
call
the
I'm
familiar
with
these
properties
that
you're
talking
about
and
they
are
very
wet
and
I
hold
those
red
areas
as
being
critically,
so
we
need
them
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
So
I
would
not
quite
sure
what
your
criteria
is
considering
as
critical
or
not.
C
Just
to
respond
to
larry
tom
olsen,
what
I
was
determining
by
critical
is
part
of
the
natural
diversity
database
on
their
listing
of
critical
species
and,
and
that
are
listed.
You
know
those
hashed
areas
like
we
saw
on
the
last
one
down
by
mumford
cove
that
those
areas
are
hashed
over
and
identified
by
the
state
as
a
critical
habitat
area.
That's
my!
I
apologize
for
not
being
more
specific
in
my
statement
relative
to
the
critical
habitats.
C
F
One
other
comment,
something
that,
with
all
the
good
work,
the
whole
commission
has
been
doing
identifying
all
sorts
of
unknown
property.
There
is
a
particular
small
piece
of
property
on
this
that
is
not
owned
by
the
town.
F
It
is
a
holdover
from
the
development
and
it's
still
owned
by
the
original
developer
in
north
sonington,
but
I
don't
think
he
doesn't
pay
taxes
but
according
to
the
deeds,
it's
never
been
changed
over
to
the
town
to
be
part
of
that
open
space.
C
And
I
I
know
this
piece
of
the
parcel
is
the
one
to
the
south
of
this.
I
I
think-
and
I
have
I
did
look
at-
that
I
didn't
know
about
the
tax
situation
with
it.
This
is
this
also
was
very
kind
of
unique
if
you
want
larry,
if
you
want
to
scroll
back
up
a
little
bit
to
one
of
the
maps
here
that,
what's
that's
what's
unique
about
this
parcel,
is
that
there's
a
a
road
that
goes
north
to
south
that
that's
on
the
property?
C
You
can
kind
of
see
it
here.
That's
a
split
between
the
two.
If
you
see
the
two
blue
dots
there,
the
tags,
those
are
the
centers
of
the
of
the
of
the
property,
but
it's
bisecting
between
those
there's
actually
an
access
road
that
goes
all
the
way
through
the
along
the
basically
splits
of
two
properties
and
that
that's
his
access
to
that
that
property.
C
That
bray
is
talking,
which
is
to
the
to
this,
the
pro
the
parcel
to
the
south
west
of
the
of
the
of
the
left-hand
blue
dot
that
kind
of
yellowed
out
area.
That's
the
parts
I
believe
bray's
talking
about.
That's
that's
still
again:
that's
his
access
that
same
road
also
provides
access
to
that
property
as
well
as
coming
off
of
the
the
court
there.
C
So
it's
kind
of
unique
this
this
pro
this
whole
parcel
the
way
it
was
developed
over
time,
and
so
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
our
job
at
this
time
as
part
of
the
the
stewardship
bray.
Are
you
proposing
that
I
add
another
item
on
the
10-year
plan
to
investigate
expansion
of
this
property
and
up
to
to
include
the
the
one
the
parcel
to
the
south,
because
I
can
do
that
easily.
F
I
think
it's
more
of
cleaning
up
the
ownership
or
what
the
deeds
say
that
somebody,
when
they're
taking
out
a
broad
map
of
open
space
or
town
open
space,
unless
you
really
know
all
the
components
of
that,
that's
something
that
we
can
look
at
down.
The
line.
Yeah.
B
C
I
can
tell
you
that
from
my
I
do,
I
try
to
do
my
due
diligence
as
I
go
through
each
of
these
parcels,
but
I
have
focused
ownership
of
the
parcel.
I
do
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
gross
and
obvious
ones,
and
I
did
pull.
I
did
check
this
deed.
I
pulled
it
up.
I
just
saw
that
it
was
maintained
by
a
mozzarella
or
some
way.
You
know
it
appeared
to
be
pr
still
privately
held
by.
C
F
They're
not
gonna,
charge
taxes
on
it
because
you
can't
use
it
it's
it's.
It's
a
wet
area
takes
up
a
good
portion
of
it.
I
mean
it's
not
something
that
anybody
could
ever
build
on.
So
it's
it's
entirely
most
of
it.
It's
all
wet
part
of
a
small
drainage
course
that
runs
through
there.
F
B
Right
so
I
I
think
I
would
suggest
tom
that,
rather
than
trying
to
adjust
the
mystic
meadows
plan,
is
we
have
a
new
action
item
that
works
with
the
town.
I
think
we
should
get
with
the
town
first
bruce
that
says:
we've
identified
the
course
of
our
analysis.
We
have
identified
this
parcel
at
the
brace
point.
It's
undevelopable
undevelopable,
it's
in
the
wetlands
area,
they're
not
paying
any
taxes,
and
you
know
should
we
approach
the
town
approach,
the
owner
just
transfer
it
over
to
us,
so
we
can
formally
manage
it.
A
B
Yeah
I
mean
there's
an
action
that
we're
requesting
of
the
of
the
staff
so
that
so
yes,
it's
both
to
the
commission
members
and
then
also
to
you,
because
if
you're
saying
that's
not
something
we
would
pursue
it's
kind
of
hard
for
us
to
go
to
give
you
direction
right.
So
it's
kind
of
an
iterative
process.
A
Oh
yeah,
I
definitely
definitely
think
it
could
be.
I
think
we
need
to
you
know,
look
into
exactly
what's
being
taxed
there
and
yeah.
It's
certainly
something
that
the
town
does
from
time
to
time
or
a
lot
of
times.
It's
actually
the
other
way
around
where
our
property
must
have
donated
parcels
to
the
town
but
yeah.
I
think
I
think
we
could,
if
you,
if
you
guys,
sent
me
an
email
on
that,
pass
it
along
and
see.
C
Yeah
I
pulled
up
the
the
the
parcel:
it's
a
pin,
number
2608,
08
89
1
13
69
at
zero
somerset
drive.
It's
over
the
owner
is
albert
romanella
of
westerly
rhode
island.
Like
gray
mentioned
it's,
it's
vacant
plan,
undevelopable,
okay,
it's
how
it's
listed
and
it's
got
an
assessment
of
a
hundred
and
forty
dollars,
so
you
pay
a
bill
rate
of
on
the
140.
So
I
don't
I
haven't
looked
at.
You
know,
looked
it
up
any
further
than
that,
but
when
I
saw
this,
that's
how
come
I
left.
C
I
didn't
investigate
it,
any
farther
if
he's
current
on
taxes
or
any
of
that
type
of
stuff,
but
the
land
value
it's
200
of
the
assessment
140..
So
that's
why
what
bray's
saying
is
essentially
off
the
book,
but
it's
not
listed
as
town
property
right
and
so.
B
Right
now,
so
so
bray,
could
you
draft
a
very
brief
request
to
the
town
that
says:
we've
identified
this
as
a
partial
analysis.
It's
a
it's
rated,
140
bucks.
You
know
in
certain
time
value,
but
we
think
it
would
be
a
great
idea
for
the
town
to
approach
the
owner
to
just
donate
the
thing
to
the
town,
so
we
can
incorporate
it
into
our
open
space
planning
and
carbon
sequestration
efforts.
A
B
Yeah
all.
B
B
Although
assessed
value
was
75
percent
of
its
real
value,
so
the
200
bucks
is
probably
correct,
but
all
right.
So,
let's
see
so
action
of
bray.
B
On
a
note
and
and
bray,
I
would
suggest
you
know
that
you
just
sign
it
as
vice
chair
and
just
get
it
over
to
the
staff
as
a
request,
as
as
supported
by
the
commission.
Fair
enough.
F
B
B
B
C
This
is
tom
olsen
again
as
far
as
I'll
brief
this
one.
This
one
is
actually
five
different
parcels
that
that
are
central
of
that
are
all
about
the
actual
composting
facility
that
that
the
town
is
still
actively
doing
as
far
as
they're
taking
the
land
people
drop
off
rush
and
stuff.
C
At
the
at
the
on
the
flanders
road
facility,
it's
transported
up
to
the
it's
basically
ground
up,
brought
up
to
the
top
of
this,
the
old
bulk
waste
facility
that
the
town
had
there's
a
big
drying
area.
They
got
a
tractor
up
there
that
moves
it
around
and
composted
stuff
and
then
the
completed
soil.
That's
results
after
the
composting
actions
up
that
are
done
on
the
facility
up,
there
are
brought
back,
and
then
it's
made
available
to
the
to
the
general
to
the
town,
people
for.
B
C
As
they.
C
In
with
your
bucket
and
and
shovel
and
go
into
the
pile
and
take
as
much
as
you
want
and
then
off,
it
goes
for
use
by
the
general
public.
C
So
at
the
facility
there
that
there's,
like
I
said,
there's
five
there's
some
you.
J
C
These
parcels
go
up
from
40
acres
down
to
about
two
acres,
or
so
I've
got
the
history
on
each
one
of
them
there
and
but
it's
a
fairly
unique
facility,
but
it
is
gated
and
that's
why
I've
got
some
pictures
of
there.
So
you
really
it's
not
open
to
the
general
public,
as
we've
had
on
some
of
these
other
properties.
C
But
this
kind
of
gives
you
a
layer
idea
and
there's
some
wet
a
lot
of
wetlands
in
here
along
the
entire
most
of
the
western
edge
is
this
is
all
red
brook,
so
it's
actually
a
waterway
and
then
up
in
the
the
upper
one
upper
blue
dot.
There
is
a
is
an
open
space
that
was
done.
C
That
was
donated
to
the
town
for
the
subject
of
the
subdivision,
to
the
other
side
and
just
for
general
notification
that
the
top
the
top
yellow
line
across
there
is
the
town
boundary
with
ledger,
okay
and
so,
and
then
avalonia
actually
has
a
budding
pro
preserve
just
to
the
north
of
of
the
area
here.
So
it's
kind
of
adjacent
from
that's
supporting
their
red
brook
property,
a
preservation
area.
C
So
I
think,
that's
about
all.
I
need
to
talk
about
in
the
jet
sister
generally
located
off
of
wells.
Road
there
off
of
184..
What's
interesting
is
that
this
is
a
a
pro
parson
that
has
interest
from
brought
utilities
and
that's
how
kind
of
included
their
discussion
in
this
area.
C
Okay,
again,
moving
on
to
the
form
the
part,
four,
the
management
recommendations,
again
boundary
markings
things
what's
unique
on
this
one
is,
I
did
say,
to
investigate
implementation,
some
tree
planning
opportunities,
because
when
you
look
through
some
of
the
the
the
aerial
surveys
and
the
and
the
type
of
soils
are
there,
there
is
potential
for
some
tree
planting
in
here.
Also,
there's
a
large
area,
that's
paved,
that's
that's
no
longer
being
used
because
it
was
for
is
when
it.
C
When
this
facility
was
a
a
bulk
waste
area,
you
had
a
bunch
of
turnaround
areas
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
there's
almost
almost
over
two
acres
of
pavement.
That
is
just
sitting
there
that
could
be
taken
up
and
converted
into
trees
and
stuff
for
from
a
carbon
sequestration
and
minimizing
of
of
you
know,
asphalted
areas
within
the
town,
and
so
that's
why
I
kind
of
looked
at
this
one.
As
that
potential
is
there
now.
C
I
did
say
that,
and
this
one
I
did
leave
in
the
established
walking
trail
around
the
parcel.
The
reason
that
this
one
is
that
there,
while
this
hasn't
been
this,
is
not
open
to
the
general
public.
C
At
this
particular
time
there
are
some
very
unique
geological
formations
and
stuff
in
it,
along
the
western
between
the
on
the
western
side,
half
of
the
parcel
between
red
brook
and
working
yourself
up
towards
the
top
of
the
of
the
old
trash
mound
and
there
that
when
I
did
a
tour
of
it,
I
there
some
of
the
people
did
comment
that
these
are
very
unique,
unique
geologicals
that
maybe
that
we
should
be
potentially
developing
this
for
for
general.
C
You
know,
maybe
in
some
kind
of
control
thing
you
call
up.
I
want
to
take
a
tour
of
this
area,
so
I
did
leave
that
recommendation
in
there.
I
know
that
we've
kind
of
tried
to
discourage
use
and-
and
this
one's
very
discouraged,
because
there's
literally
a
fence
around
of
the
entrance
areas
to
this
this
this
here,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
potential
and
that's
to
come.
C
I
left
this
one
in
here
as
a
potential
recommendation
just
because
of
the
uniqueness
of
the
geological
activity
in
that
area
and
also
that
this
is
on
a
potential
green
belt
area.
As
far
as
how
we,
how
we're
going
to
handle
green
belts
relative
to
trails
and
and
accessibility.
Here,
that's
about
all.
I
got
on
section
four.
C
If
you
want
to
go
down
scroll
down
larry,
and
so
that's
why
I
I
had
the
the
mark,
the
verification
of
the
boundaries
and
then
working
with
parks
and
recs,
potentially
for
open
space
and
trail
establishment
would
be
the
coordination
area
and
then
likewise
for
the
the
survey
for
the
possibility
of
tree
planting
opportunities
and
coordinate
that
with
the
public
works
and
parks
and
rec.
C
And
then
again,
the
similar
to
the
to
the
gary
court
is
that
we
need
to
be
coordinating
with
the
public
works,
because,
obviously
they
own
this
property,
and
in
this
case
this
particular
management
plan
has
already
been
reviewed
by
mr
hanover.
The
public
works
director
and
michelle
maitland,
and
they
concurred
with
all
these
recommendations
and
and
and
the
statements
that
I
made
in
this
one.
C
C
It
reflects
the
same
type
of
inputs
that
they
had
so
that's
about
all
I
had,
but
this
one
again
looks
like,
and
the
only
other
unique
item
is,
if
you
go,
you
can
slide
up
to
on
the
in
the
evaluation
on
number
five
here
is
that
I
do
talk
about
that
that
this
does
have
a
special
permitting
requirements
with
it
and,
as
such,
you
know,
but
those
are
all
under
the
responsibility
of
the
public
works
department.
C
As
far
as
for
working
with
the
state
dep
with
these
parcels
for
relative
to
the
surveys
that
are
being
done
on
a
semi-annual
basis
for
any
kind
of
runoffs
coming
out
of
the
former
bulky
waste
facility,
so
I
should
just
point
that
out
for
for
transparency's
sake.
C
So
at
this
point
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
accept
the
wells.
Road
compouncing
facility
stewardship
plan
for
approval.
B
Once
going
twice
all
right,
let's
hold
the
votes
on
approving
the
motion
on
the
wells,
road
composting
facilities
and
again
it's
unanimous
boy.
You
guys
there's
no
outliers
here,
you
guys
are
all
unanimous
all
right,
so
the
fourth
one
was
was
woodcrest.
B
C
Yes
now
this
is
a
10
acre
a
little
bit
over
10
acres.
Woodcrest
is
you
know
off
of
allen
street
here
on
the
north
side
of
I-95
parks
and
rec,
already
similar
to
what
we
saw
over
on
judson
here
with
the
mystic
meadows
area
they've
already
identified,
they
actually
have
parks.
You
know
you
know
playground
areas
in
the
two
in
the
in
the
two
green
areas
that
are
in
this
on
this
map
here
and
then
you
have
an
avalonia
area.
C
That
kind
of
links
these
two
together
and
then
the
purple
red
crest
is
what
we're
looking
at
today,
and
that
area
in
particular,
is
just
a
hundred
percent
woodlands
with
one
access
point
to
to
the
street.
That
was
on
the
when
they
did
the
subdivision.
This
was
a
subdivision
that
was
turned
over
for
that
local
area,
up
there
on
whittles
drive
and
with
road.
I
should
point
out
that
we
could
in
theory,
if
can
you
go
back
to
that
map?
C
Larry
it'd
be
a
little
bit
easier
for
me
to
discuss
what
I
want
to
do.
Go
back
yeah.
This
is
this
map
here,
just
for
clarification,
and
this
is
where
I
meet
the
area.
You
see
the
the
blue
little
lake
there
to
the
on
to
the
right
of
the
woodcrest
purple
area
and
to
the
south
of
there.
You
see
a
big
white
area
there
that
those
parcels
that
area
is
going
to
be.
I
I
have
drafted
up
another
plant
called
the
landfire
property
because
that's
a
landfire
road
there.
C
That
area
is
all
town
owned,
but
it
was
not
designated
and
it's
just
been
left
on
the
town
properties,
and
so
we
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
talk
about,
is
should
that
be
an
open
space
area
rather
than
just
left
on
the
on
the
town
properties,
because
it's
fully
enclosed
by
you
know
residentials.
C
So
lake
is
that
lake
erie
is
actually
privately
owned
and
not
by
the
town.
The
town
owns
south
of
landfire
road
not
to
the
north
of
it,
but
if,
if
we
would
want
to
be
converting
those
into-
and
my
recommendation
is
that
that
should
that
we
should
recon
classify
that
as
open
space.
It
was
given
to
the
town
you
know
by
foreclosure,
and
so
they
they
it
wasn't.
Don't
these.
C
The
area
that
was
given
to
the
town
was
the
woodcrest
area,
but
this
area,
the
developer,
wasn't
able
to
sell
it,
and
so
he
he
bankrupt.
You
know
so
the
town
obtained
it
through
foreclosure,
but
because
it's
been
a
foreclosure,
it's
been
listed
as
available
property
for
the
town
to
try
to
sell
or
to
use
for
some
other
purpose,
and
so
this
is
where
I
kind
of
scratched
my
head.
C
I
developed
a
management
plan
for
that
area,
and
so
what
one
alternative
here
was
would
be
to
include:
incorporate
the
landfire
property,
the
the
11
parcels
that
make
that
up
with
woodcrest
or
to
leave
these
as
two
standalone
ones.
You
know
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
for
a
transparency
perspective
as
far
as
how
we
want
to
be
handling
this
or
to
lump
these
together,
because
there
are
only
a
couple
of
block
of
literally
a
block
apart
that
we
can
put
this
all
into
one
management
plan.
C
So
I
at
this
point-
I
don't
know
if
you
want
me
to
table
the
woodcrest
based
on
the
discussion
with
the
landfire
property,
or
that
we
want
to
just
get
wood
crest,
leave
the
wood
crust
and
have
a
separate
management
plan,
because
it's
it's,
the
continuation
of
the
area
of
wood
presses,
is
currently
identified.
C
So
it's
something
to
think
about
I'd
like
to
hear
some
discussion
before
we
go
forward
with
this
management
plan
in
regard
to
how
do
we
want
to
handle?
Do
we
want
to
take
wood
crust
and
add
it
to
the
landfire
property
or
handle
these
as
as
separate
properties.
D
Yep
so
smish,
I
I
don't
know
how
long
it
was
it
would
take
to
get
that
lamp
here,
designated
as
open
space.
I
mean
if
it
were
talking,
you
know
a
year
or
so
then
it
might
be
worth
waiting.
But
if
it's
more
than
that,
I
would
say
we
would
approve
this
now
and
then
modify
it
once
we
have
lamp
here
available.
C
B
Well,
I
I
would
think
and
bruce
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong-
that
we're
effectively
taking
it
off
of
the
books
and
therefore
would
have
to
go
to
the
town
council,
because
you
might
have
the
economic
development
folks
say:
oh,
we
want
to
sell
that
right
for
more
development,
etc.
So
I
I
suspect
it
would
take
a
town
council
vote
and
then
get
the
deed
actually
changed
and
get
a
protection
for
it.
B
E
Yeah,
I
was
gonna
say
that
it
seems
to
me
like
that,
looks
like
just
by
where
it's
located
and
what
it's
close
to,
that
it
would
be
a
really
good,
open
space
property
and
it
would
be
a
buffer
for
all
those
other.
F
B
C
B
All
right,
I
would,
I
would
say
if
there
are
no
objections,
we
will
what's
the
right
term
by
consent
say
that
we
will
table
it.
I'm
not
sure
we
need
a
motion
to
table
something,
but.
B
So
yeah
and
but
the
other
thing
is,
there's
an
action
that
comes
out
of
here,
which
is
to
determine
what
is
required
to
legally
provide
open
space
protection
to
the
lampier
town-owned
property.
Whatever
that
section
parcel
partial
ideas.
B
So
if
bruce,
you
could
log
that
as
an
action
for
the
council
for
the
commission-
and
I
guess
I
I
will
pursue-
because
I
think
this
is
something
we
need
to
get
defined
anyway-
so
I'll
take
the
action
to
pursue
with
your
department.
What
is
the
process
for
that
conversion
right?
I
think.
That's
the
first
step
yeah
tom.
C
As
far
as
on
designation
of
open
space
properties
and
that's
kind
of
one
of
the
things
that
I
had
done
on
the
and
it's
in
it's
in
our
master
list
here
that
we've
got
in
the
agenda
package
here
on
that
spreadsheet.
As
far
as
what
has
clear
deed
identification
as
open
space
is
clearly
identified.
Okay-
and
maybe
we
need
to
get
the
town
attorney
to
give
an
opinion
as
far
as
on
what
should
we
be
doing
here
from
the
conservation
commission?
What
is
the
the
minimum
threshold
for
open
space
as
you
go
forward?
C
C
C
It
helps
to
have
something
to
work
from,
and
I
think
I've
already
provided
that
to
you,
but
I
I
would
recommend
making
a
recommendation
that,
as
you
go
forward
to
this
town
staff,
that
maybe
we
can
get
a
legal
opinion
on
what's
the
minimum
that
we
have
to
do
and
then
we
can
be
using
that
opinion
as
we
try
to
take
other
areas
that
have
been
historically
identified
as
open
space,
but
that
don't
have
the
deed
protection.
C
B
So
all
right,
fair
enough,
oh,
is
that
I
guess
we
got
a
consensus
that
that's
the
action,
so
we'll
defer
this
one
and
we
got
an
action
out
and
we'll
continue
on
to.
Oh,
that
was
woodcrest,
so
those
were
the
top
four
priorities.
B
I'm
checking
the
time
I
was
going
to
you
know
do
some
of
these
every
every
every
month.
Tom
do
you
want
to
slip
one
more
in
tonight
or
you
want
to.
I
would.
C
B
G
Yeah,
can
I
just
make
a
one
comment:
there's
a
couple
typos
that
we
don't
need
to
discuss
here,
I'll
just
send
them
straight
to
you,
tom.
B
All
right
very
good,
the
next
agenda
item
4.4,
is
pequot,
woods
and
trails,
and
I
think
that
was
bray.
That
was
update
from
you.
Did
I
yes.
F
Yes,
could
I
have
a
map
of
sequoia.
B
All
right,
so
let
me
share,
let's
see
where's
my
share
share
screen
all
right,
so
let
me
oops
all
right.
What's
the
closest
address
to
that.
A
Well,
brooke
brady,
you
do
you
want
the
trail
map
that
I
made
for
you
or
that
I
invited
you
yeah
gloria.
But
if
you
let
me
share,
I
could.
F
Okay,
if
you
could
yeah
right
there,
pequot
woods
is
one
of
two
properties
in
the
town
that
has
a
organization
or
a
management
group
of
people
that
have
been
assigned
to
oversee
the
property.
F
People
would
board
of
trustees
meets
once
a
year,
and
we
just
had
a
meeting
a
couple
of
saturdays
ago,
the
outgrowth
from
that
a
discussion
was
made
about
the
boundaries
of
pequot
woods
and
those
boundaries
to
people.
Woods
includes
the
trail
system
that,
where
the
yellow
trail
is,
is
actually
not
pequot,
woods
and
part
of
the
blue
trail
that
is
close
to
the
yellow
trail.
It
was.
F
The
main
trail
is
not
on
equal
woods
at
the
one
entrance
to
pequot
woods
at
the
very
bottom
is
not
pequot
wood
and
there's
five
properties
that
are
about
wood
that
were
set
aside
as
opens
place
after
pequot
woods
was
first
established,
so
big
watt
woods
was
initially,
the
northern
part
was
initially
given
in
1972
and
a
good
part
of
the
southern
part
of
it
was
added
to
combined
together.
F
Part
of
the
developer
was
asked
to
set
aside
open
space.
He
came
back
and
said
where
the
conservation
commission
suggested
that
that
open
space
in
equal
woods.
So
what
is
before
you
is
a
discussion.
What
I'm
about
to
talk
about
is
it's
an
outgrowth
from
our
annual
that
happened
recently,
where
we
are
board
of
trustees?
F
One
of
the
the
members
that's
listed
in
the
original
deed
to
be
on
the
board
is
from
the
conservation
commission.
F
So
I
represented
the
conservation
commission
for
years
on
on
the
board
and
have
to
be
current
chair
and
the
thing
that,
with
the
good
work
that
everybody's
been
doing
on
the
conservation
plan
enlisted
michelle
put
together
and
all
the
the
ins
and
outs
that
tom's
been
put
together
and
on
a
whole
variety
of
these
properties,
he
came
back
to
me
and
said
you
know
how
come
pequot.
F
It's
called
stanton
farms,
and
some
of
it
is
just
open
space
lands
that
do
not
have
a
name
but
just
sit
adjacent
to
it
and
it's,
unfortunately,
it's
not
marked
up
very
well
on
on
this
map,
so
the
growth
of
that
is
that
these
adjacent
properties,
where
the
yellow
trail
is,
for
instance,
which
is
town
own
open
space
property
under
a
different
name,
is
to
see
if
the
town
in
some
way
can
take
these
adjacent
open
and
space
lands,
even
if
they
have
a
different
name
and
put
it
under
pequot
woods.
Management.
F
Peak
wattswood
management
is
not
a
it's
an
advisory
group
to
the
town
on
the
management
of
this
particular
property,
so
the
town
isn't
giving
up
anything.
The
town
owns
both
pequot
woods
and
the
adjacent
open
space
properties.
Nothing
is
changing
there.
F
So
one
of
the
members
of
the
pequot
board
of
woods
trustees
is
an
attorney
who
works
for
the
town
of
groton,
the
the
group
of
attorneys
that
the
town
has
hired
for
in
the
in
the
year.
This
particular
gentleman
sits
on
our
board.
I
didn't
realize
it
and
he's
has
sat
on
other
towns,
planning
and
zoning
for
years,
he's
very
familiar
with
open
spaces,
very
supportive
of
open
spaces
and
through
parks
and
rec
mark
berry,
the
director
of
parks
and
rec
pequot
boards
of
woods
and
of
the
attorney.
F
We
are
looking
to
see
if
there's
some
mechanism
whereby,
instead
of
having
all
these
bits
and
pieces
of
land
close
to
each
other,
we
can
actually
put
them
under
sort
of
one
umbrella
and
say
whether,
when
you
go
out
to
enjoy
pequot
woods,
the
outline
of
the
green
area
that
you
see
actually
incorporates
those
open
spaces
that
were
initially
set
aside
to
complement
pequot
was
be
included
in
that
so
they're.
F
Looking
at
at
the
structure
of
how
these,
how
the
town
works,
with
transfers
of
property
and
so
forth-
and
this
is
a
a
new
area
for
the
town-
we've
not
challenged
it.
So
when
we
went
back
and
the
last
property
that
we
just
tabled
of
the
landfill
property,
should
it
be
woodcrest
or
should
it
be
a
different
name
when
other
properties
around
there
are
all
part
of
woodcrest?
F
Maybe
we
should
just
lump
them
all
under
one
woodcrest,
but
it
has
different
elements
to
it
so
because
the
the
town
advertises
equal
woods
out
on
the
website
on
some
of
the
maps,
they
include
the
yellow
area,
but
yet
the
and
the
parks
and
rec
maintains
the
true
rail
systems
here.
F
But
what
we
are
proposing,
the
the
board
of
board
board
of
trustees
is
proposing
is
to
put
it
all
into
one
umbrella.
F
So
we
are,
this
process
has
begun
and
parks
and
rec
is
is
on
our
supports.
F
The
inclusion
of
these
open
space
properties
is
actually
being
under
pequot
woods
board
of
trustees,
since
no
one
else
has
really
been
looking
at
them
and
they're
slivers
of
property
in
some
areas.
F
Next
to
it
that
people,
the
town,
doesn't
hasn't
done
anything
with
it,
so
pequot
woods
would
just
like
to
have
it
as
all
as
as
one
and
so
that
the
trail
systems
that
are
there
they're
actually
under
the
pequot
woods
board
of
trustees
oversight
and
not
all
these
different
little
elements
of
different
properties.
That
are
there
that
if
you
really
want
to
truly
say
okay
well,
part
of
the
property
is
on
people's
woods.
Part
of
the
sun
stanton
farms,
part
of
it's
on
something
else.
It
starts
to
get
confusing.
F
That
was
that,
apparently,
is
in
motion
and
we'll
I'll
keep
the
conservation
commission
informed
as
we
move
ahead
on
that.
The
second
item
is
that
one
of
the
other
board
members
equal
woods-
trustees
needs
to
be
a
faculty
member
from
connecticut
college
and
the
current
faculty
member
is
chad.
Professor
chad
jones
he's
a
botanist
and
the
last
two
or
three
years.
F
We've
encouraged
him
to
do
some
botany
out
on
equal
woods
to
have
a
running
list
of
types
of
plants
that
are
out
there,
and
so
he
has,
in
the
past
three
years,
brought
out
different
classes
of
his
botany
classes
to
actually
go
out
and
learn
how
to
do
identification
and
not
only
looking
at
trees,
but
also
looking
at
ferns
looking
at
shrubs.
F
F
And
then
the
pictures
that
the
students
have
used
of
the
particular
trees
are
not
ones
that
they've
taken,
but
something
they've
gotten
offline
online
somewhere,
and
so
they
at
the
bottom
of
a
series
of
pictures,
they've
identified
where
that
particular
photograph
came
from.
It's
very
nicely
done,
and
it's
a
beginning
that
one
of
the
problems
with
the
open
spaces
in
the
town-
we
don't
have
identification
list.
F
We
all
walk
through
and
we
recognize
the
hardwoods
that
are
out
there,
but
we're
actually
trying
to
break
it
down
to
say:
okay,
what
are
the
who
are
the
the
hardwoods
that
are
out
there
or
the
softwoods
or
the
ferns
and
so
forth,
and
so
this
is
beginning,
and
the
thought
was
that
we
might
be
able
to
link
on
the
conservation
website.
F
Our
town
conservation
commission's
website
have
a
link
up
with
his
particular
plants
that
they
looked
at
one
particular
time
of
the
year
and
identified.
I
started.
He
shared
the
website
with
us
at
the
at
the
meeting
and
they've
done
a
very
nice
job,
so
we're
hoping
to
expand
upon
that.
But
it's
the
work
that
ann
has
done
with
the
video.
I
think
this
would
complement
the
video
work
on
some
of
the
other
properties
in
town
as
well
as
this.
F
And
the
last
thing
I
just
wanted
to
say
when
I
was
working
about
thinking
about
a
trail
book,
that
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
want
to
do
is
like
tom,
when
he
speaks
about
on
each
piece
of
property.
He's
actually
visited
the
property
on
this
particular
property.
Thinking
about
re
redoing,
the
the
whole
map
and
booklet,
making
a
booklet
out
of
it
is
the
accuracy
of
the
trails
where
they
are
and
how
well
marked
they
are
so
to
do
something.
F
You'd
like
to
say
here
is
is
a
an
accurate
map
of
where
all
those
trails
are,
and
there
are
problems
with
this
particular
map,
for
instance,
a
very
nice
video
we
saw
tonight
on
one
of
my
rights
property.
The
trail
map
does
not
match
what's
actually
out
there
and
it's
either.
F
The
trail
is
on
the
map,
but
it's
not
marked,
and
so
it's
difficult
to
access.
So
these
are
problems
that
they
can
be
solved,
but
if
they're
one
that
as
more
people
get
out
there
on
on
the
trails
to
like
to
have
something
accurate,
that's
in
front
of
them
to
move
forward.
F
So
that's
what
I
wanted
to
bring
forward
bring
up
to
date.
What's
going
on
with
decor
woods,
thank
you.
B
All
right,
well
that
that's
a
lot,
so,
let's
let
me
see
if
I
can,
if
I
can
break
it
down,
so
I
think
there's
three
major
areas
you
talked
about
the
first
one
is
that
to
have
a
more
comprehensive,
pequot
woods.
B
Management
area,
when
I
clicked
around
all
that
they're
all
legally
open
space
protected
owned
by
the
town.
So
I
think
that
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong
and
there
and
therefore
it's
not
a
question
of
ownership
or
deeds,
it's
just
a
question
of
managing
it
in
a
more
holistic
way,
and
so
you've
got
that
already
ongoing
and
you
don't
require
any
conservation
commission
activity
other
than
yourself
to
pursue.
That
particular
action
item.
Is
that
correct.
F
B
C
Larry,
yes
tom,
just
the
second,
the
follow-on
to
that
is.
I
just
want
to
confirm
this-
is
that
these
type
of
parcels
we
would
be
assigning
in
our
master
list
from
stewardship
perspective,
to
the
pequod
wood
board,
as
opposed
to
this,
the
development
by
this-
the
conservation
commission
itself,
because
these
parcels
would
be
coming
up
in
this,
particularly
when
we
get
down
to
the
less
than
three
acre
type
of
areas.
C
F
Also,
I
should
mention
that
the
one
other
member
of
the
people
board
of
trustees
is
the
mayor
and
she
was
at
the
last
meeting.
So
she
represents
the
council
and
she
was
encouraging
us
to
to
pursue
this
and
eventually
bring
it
to
the
council
for
presentation,
and
I
think
it's-
the
council
who's
the
ultimate
authority.
That's
going
to
make
this
change.
B
A
D
Yeah
I
have
two
things.
One
is
ray.
Thank
you
for
for
explaining
that,
because
I
know
when
I
did
that
list,
there
was
in
fact
I
think
I
have
a
note
adjacent
to
people
wizard
there.
I
found
a
lot
of
those
that
that
I
made
the
note
jason
speak
about
woods
on
the
list.
So
thank
you
for
explaining
what
what
happened
with
that
and
and
and
I
I'm
guessing
there
are
those
same
parcels
that
you're
talking
about.
D
The
second
thing
is
for
point
number
three
that
larry
hasn't
summarized
yet,
but
as
long
as
I'm
talking
several
years
ago,
one
of
the
the
con
college
goodwin
nearing
students,
we
we
had
a
a
land,
trust
type
projects
with
them
every
year
and
and
they
actually
did
some
mapping
of
those
trails
for
mark.
So
so
they
already
did
some
work
like
confirming
you
know
the
trail.
D
B
All
right,
very
good,
the
going
back
to
my
the
second
point,
which
was
getting
back
to
the
database
or
the
identification
of
plants
associated
with
peacock
woods
per
se,
and
I
what
I
got
out
of
it
was
gn.
Wouldn't
it
be
nice
if
you
could
do
a
video
similar
to
what
you
did
for
pequot
woods,
and
we
can
then
link
it
to
the
database
from
the
college
on
the
plant
identification.
B
So
I
kind
of
heard
that
suggestion,
but
a
follow-on
to
that
would
be
who
owns
that
information,
so
you
know
brave,
we
would
have
to
have
either
access
rights
or
you
know
an
agreement
that
there's
not
an
issue
with
us
using
that
data
for
certainly
for
pequot
woods
and
perhaps
in
the
future,
some
other
parcels
that
they
make
that
they
may
be
done
on.
So
is
there
an
issue
on
any
information
or
proprietary
or
not
confidentiality,
but
just
ownership
of
data.
F
I
did
not
pursue
that.
That's
a
very
good
question
and
I
was
going
to
bring
it
before
the
conservation
commission
tonight
and
see
if
there's
interest
in
including
his
student's
work,
whether
it's
linked
to
a
video
or
just
a
standalone.
B
All
right,
fair
enough,
so
I
guess
we
should
start
there.
Well,
we
got
to
go
one
of
a
couple
directions
so
ann.
Is
there
an
interest
on
yours
and
roger
part
to
to
go
to
video
number
two
on
this
particular
property.
B
Right
that'd
be
great
because
then
it
kind
of
slants,
my
next
question
a
little
differently
that
says
you're
right.
If
that's
the
case,
then
would
he
participate
and
then
we
could
provide
a
link
and
some
other
things
to
the
more
detailed
data,
because
you
don't
want
to
repeat
everything
in
the
video,
but
that
would
then
get
back
to
the
point
of
ownership
of
information,
data
accessibility,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
so
bray
that
I
think
what
you've
heard
is.
There's.
B
I
shouldn't
say
that,
because
it
was
just
ann-
and
I
talking
and
you
so
is
there
okay,
so
michelle
put
us
over
the
top
with
number
four.
So
so
there
is
a
a
a.
I
guess,
an
agreement
there
from
the
from
the
commission
that
we
would
like
to
pursue
this,
but
we
need,
but
you
need
to
go
back
and
ask
a
couple
more
questions
about
what
is
possible
and
what
could
we
do
or
what
they're
willing
to
do
to
get
the
appropriate
action
plan?
B
You
know
one,
the
simplest
one
would
be
you
know,
ann
does
a
trail.
Video
like
they
just
did
and
we
have
independently
have
a
link
right.
B
This
is
oh
by
the
way,
go,
look
at
this
link
for
additional
data
on
plants
or
there's
some
level
of
integration
or
some
other
plan
that
I
haven't
thought
of
right,
but
I
think
that'll
take
some
work,
so
I
think
you've
got
the
agreement
to
go
forward
and
have
that
discussion
with
cohn
college
and
and
the
and
whoever
owns
that
data,
whether
it's
like
it
must
be
kind
college.
I
assume
that
owns
the
data.
B
The
pragmatics
first,
you
get
the
objective
and
then
you
worry
about
the
the
plan
right
and
then
the
execution
so
and
then.
The
third
item
was
trail
map
accuracy
which
you
had
brought
up,
which
is
kind
of
a
separate
topic
because
it
gets
back
to
the.
How
do
we
have
a
trail
booklet,
trail
maps?
We've
talked
about
that
and
it's
kind
of
on
the
tiki
list
to
do,
and
it
does
get
into
that.
I
think
there's
an
interesting
point
that
michelle
brought
up
that
says.
B
If,
if
we
could
get,
you
know
the
students
to
kind
of
as
a
project
to
kind
of
do
it.
You
know
one
trail
a
semester
or
something
over.
You
know
that
not
that
long,
a
period
of
time
you
could
probably
get
something
you
know
reworked.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
possibility,
michelle.
D
Yeah,
the
goodwin
nearing
students
are
every
spring,
are
looking
for
projects,
so
we
can
propose
that
project
and
that
you
might
have
some
students
choose
it
or
not,
but
but
they
are
always
looking
for.
Some
kind
of
you
know
boots
on
the
ground
project.
That
would
be
helpful
from
a
conservation
or
environmental
perspective.
B
Oh
great
so
bray,
maybe
the
thing
would
be,
is
for
you
to
make
a
list
of
here's
the
top
three
or
four.
You
know
trails
that
you'd
like
to
have
mapped
out
for
more
accuracy
and
if
michelle
could
facilitate
getting
that
as
that's
I'm
going
to
talk
about
a
project
with
uconn
that
that
just
completing
that
that
I
kind
of
worked
through,
but
I
think
that'd
be
a
great
idea.
There's
they
they
come
at
this
with
a
degree
of
energy.
F
B
All
right,
okay,
super!
So
we
ready
to
move
on
to
the
next.
B
The
next
item,
which
is
I'm
looking
up
okay,
long
island,
sound
futures
grant
the
town
council
on
may
may,
4th,
which
is
tomorrow,
is
going
to
vote
on
endorsing
the
submittal
of
the
grant
application
to
lisf
for
the
resiliency
sustainability
assessment
in
downtown
mystic
and
to
authorize
the
town
manager
to
sign
all
required
grant
documents
to
apply
for
submit
and
receive
said
grant.
B
C
A
On
long
island
sounds
future,
I
I
don't
know
if
you
would
go
into
this
or
not,
but
I
did
provide
a
a
draft
recommendation
letter.
It's
it's
very
similar
to
the
one
you
guys
did
last
year
and
it
would
just
be
the
conservation
commission
endorsing
the
town
submittal
for
a
resiliency
and
sustainability
study
in
downtown
mystic.
A
Last
year
we
submitted
the
application
and
it
was,
it
was
a
really
low
funding
year.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
due
to
cover
what,
but
we
were
very
close
to
receiving
the
grant.
That's
what
we
heard
anyways
from
the
organizers
and
yeah
they
were.
They
were
really
supportive
of
this
application
this
year
and
we
really
have
a
good
feeling
about
it,
but
the
more
letters
of
support
we
receive
from
various
boards
and
commission
the
better.
B
All
right,
I
would
think
if
the
town
then
votes
on
it,
then
I
guess
I'll
go
around
here,
as
I
don't
see
any
problem
with
us
providing
a
letter
of
endorsement
for
that
submission.
But
you
got
to
have
that
submission
first
right,
the
chicken
in
the
horse
and
the
cart
or
whatever
that
is
kristen.
You
had
a
your
hand
up
you're
you're,
on
mute,
kristen.
E
B
Do
you
want
to
share
it
yeah
I
can
share
it
hold
on.
Let
me
share
now.
The
thing
is:
where's
cheryl,
there's
cher
actor
all
right,
so
this
is.
B
All
right,
so
this
is
your
proposed.
I
get,
I
guess.
When
I
looked
at
it,
I
thought
we
could
probably
beef
it
up
a
little
bit,
but
this
is
what
you're
suggesting
we
do,
but,
as
it
says
in
here,
there's
a
town
application.
So
until
there's
a
town
application,
I
shouldn't
be
sending
the
letter
of
support,
correct.
A
A
B
Okay,
so
the
so
I
think
to
make
this
official,
I
would
look
for
a
motion
that
would
approve
a
support
letter
for
the
long
island,
sound
futures
fund
to
be
submitted
to
bruce,
in
anticipation
of
being
it
being
included
in
the
town
of
groton's
application.
B
Okay,
bro
figure
out
somebody
motioned
it
and
so
many
seconds.
Okay,.
B
And
ann
okay
discussion
all
right
tom.
C
Yeah
I
the
basic
thing
is
here:
I
have
no
problem,
adding
anything
to
it
that
you,
if
you
feel
you
have
more
information,
I
don't
personally
have
more
information
to
add
to
it,
but
I
have
no
problem
having
more
additional
information
put
in
here
before
you
sign
it,
if
it
would
help
anything
as
far
as
to
move
this
forward
as
because
we
were
so
close
last
year,
I
I
understand
that
the
need
for
adding
additional
information,
so
it
helps
sells
the
project
as
the
town
wants
to
go
forward
with
it.
B
All
right,
that's
the
price
yeah.
I
beefed
up
the
last
letter
we
put
in
that
put
a
lot
more
stuff
in
it
because
I
went
around
and
got
it
so
that
that's
what
I
was
saying
is
that
if
I
can
find
more
supporting
evidence,
then
I
would
throw
it
in
there.
Karen,
you
had
your
hand
up.
B
H
H
H
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
used
to
write
federal
grants
in
one
of
my
careers
and
what's
really
important
in
some
of
these
letters
is,
if
you
take
the
thrust
of
what
they're
looking
for
when
you
look
at
that
rfp,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
it
or
not,
but
if
you
look
at
that
rfp,
if
there
are
specific
things
they're
looking
for
in
that
grant
and
you
can
tie
that
into
downtown
mystic,
they
look
very
favorably
on
it.
H
I'd
be
glad
to
help
you
write
it.
I
don't
know
if
I
can
get
a
copy
of
the
rfp
to
just
take
a
quick
look
at
it,
but.
B
It's
basically
playing
to
the
criteria
of
the
of
the
evaluation
of
the
evaluation.
No,
absolutely
so
yeah!
No
I'd
love
some
help
with
that.
So
that
that's
great,
so
I
I
can
sign
it
for
the
for
the
commission.
I'd
love
to
have
your
your
work
to
update
and
beef
this
up
a
little
bit.
That
was
my
only
comment
as
I
thought
we
could
do
a
you
know
a
little
more
robust
explanation
of
why
all
right,
that's
all,
but
I
think
I
think
bruce
for
getting
us
going.
Don't
don't
take
that
as
a
negative.
G
B
So
we'll
we'll
we'll
help
we'll
help
out
all
right,
so
karen,
if
you
can
do
that,
it
looks
like
when
is
it
had
to
be
submitted?
You
said
by
the
27th
yeah
yeah.
A
B
C
B
Us
a
vote.
Thank
you.
There's
a
motion.
We
had
the
discussion,
we
didn't
do
a
vote.
That's
good
he's!
Keeping
me
honest
all
right,
so
I
call
for
a
vote
on
the
plan
as
established
all
in
favor.
Let's
see
hand
raised
one
two
three,
I
do
not
see.
He
ends
up
all
right,
another
unanimous
boy.
This
is
what
about.
There
is
no
division
in
the
town
of
groton.
I
A
Where
we
had,
we
did
have
the
the
other
submittal.
So
we
had
one
from
the
eastern
connecticut
conservation
district
too,
on
there.
A
Yes,
so
we
got
this
request,
I
went
to
a
lot
of
people,
but
this
is
from
maura,
roby
and
larry,
and
I
actually
met
with
her
on
something
else
today,
but
this
is
a
pollinator
pathways
project
that
she
wants
to
do
in
the
town
of
crowden
and
in
the
city,
and
also
in
legendary
depression
too.
But
she
is,
you
know
she
reached
out
to
a
lot
of
people.
You
did.
You
did
as
a
commission
endorsed
this
grant
application.
Last
year
she
was
kind
of
in
the
same
boat
as
us.
A
I
think
they
came
really
close,
but
they
didn't
get
it
and
from
from
the
sound
of
it,
it
sounds
like
that
she
is
and
the
conservation
district
are
pretty
enthusiastic,
that
they'll
get
one
this
year
too.
A
So
again,
I
I
submitted
a
draft
recommendation
letter,
it's
very
similar
to
the
one
you
the
commission
submitted
last
year,
so
you
may.
You
may
want
to
look
at
this
and
review
this
as
well
to
see
if
it's
something
you
may
want
to
endorse.
B
All
right,
as
I
recall,
kristen,
that
you
you
kind
of
drafted
the
the
one
from
last
year,
correct.
E
I
would
have
to
see
it
to
know
that
I
did
it,
but
I've
been
in
touch
with
maura.
I
wish
I
had
known
you
guys
were
meeting
with
her
today.
I
would
have
joined
you,
but
she
would
also
like
us
to
try
and
identify,
within
somewhere
within
the
town
of
groton
some
place
for
either
a
rain
garden
or
a
re
like
a
repairing
pathway,
but
I
think
a
rain
garden,
but
a
highly
visible
location.
E
It
wouldn't
necessarily
have
to
be
town
land,
it
could
be,
it
could
be
a
business,
it
could
be
private
land
or
it
could
be
town
land.
So
that
was
something
that
I
was
going
to
bring
up
regarding
the
pollinator
pathway
that
we
could
all
maybe
address.
But
anyway
do
we
have
a
letter
from
last.
A
G
E
B
All
right,
I
guess,
there's
two
two
things
that
first,
first
of
all,
is
the
commission
willing
to
support
this
now,
2021
grant
applications
for
the
future
funds
program.
E
B
I
hear
a
bunch
of
yeses,
so
there's
a
I
guess,
with
the
a
consensus
agreement
without
objections,
we
will.
We
will
support
this.
I
would
ask
kristin
this
is
in
the
handout
package.
If
you
just
look
it
over
this.
This
looks
a
little
bit
more
complete
a
little
bit
more
depth
than
looking
on.
If
that
meets
with
your
approval,
then
just
give
me
a
heads
up
on
it
and
then
I
can.
I
can
get
it
out
and
get
it
back
to
bruce.
A
Yeah,
you
could
you,
could
you
can
email
this
to
me?
I
can
get
it
tomorrow
or
you
can
email
more
and
see.
If
you
see
me
that
would
work.
Okay,.
A
A
Yeah
that
that
concludes
allen
sounds
future
phone
knows
now
too.
Okay,.
B
C
Yes,
I
will.
I
have
attended
two
of
their
prior
meetings.
I,
for
some
reason,
didn't
get.
I
missed
the
last
one
that
was
held.
They
meet
quarterly.
I
did
miss
the
january
one
and
their
next
or
excuse
me
their
april
one.
C
I
attended
the
january
one
missed
the
april
one
and
their
next
one
will
be
in
june,
so
and
I'm
gonna
going
to
miss
that
because
I'm
going
to
be
out
of
town
and
not
available
to
participate
on
travel,
but
I
will
gladly
continue
being
the
baker
cove
person,
because
I
wrote
it's
heavily
involved
with
the
development
of
the
first
plane,
creek
stewardship
plan,
and
so
I
I'm
very
knowledgeable
of
what
they're
doing
and
working
with
that.
But
I
would
la
if
someone
could
attend
the
june
meeting.
C
I
think
it's
on
the
first
wednesday
at
nine
o'clock,
or
so
I
can
get
more
information
to
them.
If
there's
anybody
available
to
cover
the
meeting,
because
they
did
ask
for
us
to
attend,
but
other
than
that,
I
will
be
the
court
to
have
that
on
my
liaison,
as
well
as
with
the
folks
from
the
ground.
Long
point.
D
Michelle
I'm
not
volunteering,
but
I'm
noticing
that
in
that
second
column,
the
first
thing
is
about
installing
rain
barrels
and
and
rain
plant
rain
gardens.
So
these
would
be
good
people
to
talk
to
about
that.
It
sounds
like.
D
E
Know
I
have
plane
reservations
and
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
when
they
are
yes,.
H
C
B
All
right-
well,
I
think
that'd
be
great
karen
to
to
to
represent
for
that
one.
Meanwhile
kind
of
get
you
into
the
swing
of
things
a
little
bit
on
on
that
one.
Speaking
of
baker's
cove,
one
of
the
items
that
we
had
from
fact.
We
had
a
meeting
today
at
one
o'clock
so
as
it
turns
out,
maura
was
working
to
clean
up
the
you
know
that
that
creek
was
at
the
plains.
B
Birch
birch
birch
plains
creek
area
that
runs
for
like
a
mile
mile
and
a
half,
but
the
observation
that
we
made
was
that
it
runs
through
not
just
town
property,
but
also
private
property,
which
has
a
whole
bunch
of
other
issues
associated
with
it.
So
the
suggestion
we
made
back
today
was
that
I
would
bring
to
the
council
to
the
commission.
Here
was
because
she
asked
for
the
commission
support
was
look.
B
I
said
if,
if
we're
talking
about
a
pound
property
number
one
number
two:
is
it
kind
of
matches
the
parcel
stewardship
plans
that
we've
got
and
there's
a
third
element
to
this?
The
the
key
wit
corporation,
which
is
coming
to
town,
to
do
construction
on
that
pier?
In
new
london
you
you
remember
reading
about
that,
so
one
of
the
things
they
do
is
they
look
for
projects
in
the
community
and
their
employees
would
donate
time
and
one
of
their
thoughts
was
to
donate
time
to
do
cleanup.
B
So,
as
I
thought
about
it,
and
then
I
looked
at
the
the
birch
plain
parcel
plan
is
to
say
which
runs
right
along
that
river
or
the
creek
is
to
say:
let's
conjoin
these
together
we
could
support
the
baker's
cove
association.
We
can
get
some
volunteer
labor
from
you
know.
These
employees
come
to
town
they're,
gonna
be
living
here
for
probably
six
seven
months
and
have
the
town
you
know,
provide
the
dumpsters
or,
or
you
know
the
transportation
of
whatever,
because
it
is
town
property.
B
So
let
me
throw
that
out
there.
If
there's
a
different
town
property
along
a
creek
and
bray,
you
probably
have
you're
the
resident
expert
on
all
this
stuff
on
location.
Is
there
a
different?
Is
there
a
different
parcel
other
than
the
one
I
just
identified?
That
would
kind
of
fit
the
criteria
here
or
tom.
F
I'm
not
I'm.
I
have
to
go
back
and
relook
at
it
at
the
map
to
help
you
out
all.
B
C
Okay,
I'm
not
sure
I
I'm
hesitant
to
answer
your
question
because
I'm
not
positive
at
this
time.
B
C
Yeah
there's
been
areas
I
just
haven't
researched
this
area
relative
to
what
they
want.
They've,
been
working
very
closely
with
grad
utilities
and
stuff
and
have
been
going
around
trying
to
find
people
that
would
be
potentially
interested.
I
know
they
went
to
grand
open
space
association
to
try
to
see
if
they're
interested
in
looking
at
things,
so
they
it's
been
very
hit
or
miss
in
regard
to
not
a
very
coordinated
effort.
In
regard
to
the
cleanup
efforts.
B
I
don't
disagree.
All
I'm
saying
is
is
I
said,
the
focus
is
on
town
property.
It
should
be
associated
with
the
stewardship
plans
that
we
have,
because
we've
identified
some
cleanup.
I
just
want
to
say:
if
that
all
matches,
then
I
then
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea
for
us
to
support
it
and
then
join
forces
with
a
volunteer.
C
Yeah,
just
as
a
follow-up
one
of
the
things
from
the
and
the
reason
I
I
I
did
not
get
involved
too
much
with
them
from
a
from
the
conservation
commission,
was
that
michelle
maitland
who's.
The
ms
score
coordinator
for
with
the
from
the
town
for
the
town,
public
works,
is
also
a
member
of
the
speaker,
cove
watershed
and
she
has
already
worked.
You
know
expressed.
The
public
works,
support
that
they
could.
C
Potentially,
you
know
having
trucks
and
stuff
going
to
the
dump
and
stuff,
and
so
so
it's
a
really
a
coordination
level
with
the
public
works
folks
for
the
town,
property
portion
and
and
what
the
problem
is
that
she
has
doesn't
have
a
a
cadre
of
people
and
from
the
conservation
commission.
C
B
B
D
D
I
mean
honestly,
I
I
suggested
earlier
about
about
having
you
know,
doing
that
coordination
and
and
with
thomas
talking
about
eventually
we
want
to
have
you
know,
here's
a
you
know
a
spreadsheet
or
database
type
thing,
here's
the
people
who
are
contacting
here's,
what
we
want
to
do
and
take
all
of
those
things
from
list,
but
but
we're
not
there
yet.
But
but
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
we
want
to
do
so
yeah.
If
we
have
people
that
want
to
do
it,
they
know
we're
going
to
do
it.
Do
it.
D
B
G
B
G
C
Saturday,
up
at
haley
farm
that
you
had
your
earth
day,
events
crowd
open
space,
sponsored
as
one
of
the
trust.
You
know,
supporters
of
haley
farm,
a
cleanup
there
for
their
organization
and
they
out
made
an
outreach
to
kovanta
who's
of
the
incinerator
people
and
they
actually
brought
a
team
in.
C
I
think
of
eight
to
ten
people
that
supplemented
the
grand
open
space
people
at
haley
farm
and
they
volunteered
to
say,
hey,
I'm
willing
to
work
with
other
organizations
that
do
clean
up
type
of
stuff
from
environmental,
because
that's
one
of
our
key
things
as
a
corporation
for
cleanup.
So
they
may
want
to
go
to
covanta
the
incinerator.
People
there
in
the
local
area
here
up
in
preston
and
and
coordinate
it
with
with
their
outreach
people.
B
Occurring
to
me
that
more
corporations
are
willing
to
sponsor
things
like
this
as
a
their
civic,
good
deeds
and
part
of
the
green
movement
for
their
employees
as
well.
So
it's
another
avenue
that
I
hadn't
thought
about.
Anyway,
let's
get
back
to
the
question
on
the
table,
so
the
the
question
on
the
table
I
have
is
that
is
there,
and
I
know
this
is
ahead
of
the
schedule
we
wanted,
but
is
there
a
parcel
that
we
can
identify
that
we
think
would
be
worthy
of
support
there?
B
C
Well,
if
you,
if
you're
looking
for
a
quick
and
easy
success,
start
it
would
be
the
the
joel
property
immediately
south
of
the
electric
boat
m-lot
parking
lot
off
of
atlantic
road.
It's
very
easy
access,
there's,
actually
easy
parking
and
the
trash
is
right.
Next
to
the
parking
lot
on
the
town,
property.
B
Okay,
could
you
could
you
send
me
a
note
on
that
sure
all
right?
I
appreciate
it.
Yes,
I
am
looking
for
something
quick
and
easy,
and
and
it's
a
success
story
that.
B
H
B
All
right,
so
are
we
in
agreement
that
tom
will
provide
a
recommendation
I'll
feed
it
back
across
see
if
I
get
the
the
volunteer
resources
and
we'll
take
a
look
at
see
how
it
works
and
the
I
think
the
covanta
corp
idea
will
keep
that
kind
of
on
the
list
to
see
them
and
other
corporations
as
we
go
forward
on
our
plans
to
to
get
some
resources
in
addition
to
the
community
resources.
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
great
approach
by
the
way,
corporations
and
community.
B
Okay,
other
comments
on
that
all
right,
we're
getting.
I
really
was
trying
to
wrap
this
up.
We
had
a
lot
of
stuff
today
plastics
update.
B
There
was
a
senate
bill,
1037
that
was
put
into
the
I
guess,
I'm
still
sharing
right.
That
was
put
it
into
the
package,
given
the
fact
that
this
is
a
senate
bill
and
they're
going
to
be
voting
on
it
next
month.
My
I
know
it's
there
for
you
to
look
at
there.
There
wasn't
a
lot
in
here
other
than
the
fact
that
it
eliminated
nips.
I'm
looking,
I
thought
I
did
some,
oh
no,
eventually
long
one.
B
There
we
go,
this
is
the
one
I
okay,
bigger
type
too.
So
a
couple
of
things
that
I
saw
on
the
bill
is
one
accept,
so
the
liquor
industry
got
to
them
and
they
took
out
spiritual
liquors,
50
milliliters
left,
oh
gosh,
that's
a
nip.
B
So
that
was
one
thing:
that's
that's
excluded
from
it.
The
other
thing
is,
it
does
raise
it
does
it.
It
does
include
increase
the
amount
of
beverage
containers
covered
on
a
would
be
refundable
and
they're
going
to
10
cents
rather
than
5
cents.
That's
the
second
thing
in
the
bill,
and
there
wasn't
just
other
things
in
here.
Oh
and
then
there
was.
B
Fee
of
three
and
a
half
cents,
so,
basically
for
some
of
the
not-for-profits
that
do
the
sorting
and
collecting
of
these
things,
there's
something
in
there
for
them
to
make
it
easier
to
recover
and
recycle
it.
So
it's
not
a
it
doesn't
really
just
nips,
but
it
does.
I
think
that
was
it.
The
rest
is
just
a
lot
of
political
noise,
so
that's
in
there
and
going
through.
B
I
suspect
that
the
fact
that
it
doesn't
have
nips
in
there
is
gonna
probably
make
it
go
through
easier
unless
somebody
objects
to
the
fact
that
it
doesn't
so
good
news,
bad
news
guys,
so
that
that's
what
I
got
on
that
any
any
comments
or
anybody
else
have
any
additional
data.
Yeah
karen.
H
I
quickly
read
through
this
today,
and
the
only
comment
I
would
make
is
that
towards
the
end
of
it,
there
is
a
statement
about
in
2023.
You
have
to.
They
have
to
see
if
83
of
spirit
and
wine
bottles
glass
are
recycled
and
there's
there's
some
way
of
assessing
that.
But
I
think
the
way
it
was
worded
is
that
if
it's
not
at
83
percent,
then
in
2024
deposits
on
those
will
be
instated
or
reins
be
considered
or
instated.
B
B
All
right,
kristen.
E
I
I
was
gonna
say
that
we
already,
as
a
commission
expressed
that
requested
that
the
town
express
support
to
the
state
for
whatever
bottle
bills
were
being
looked
at,
but
I
think
what
any
of
us
could
do
individually
if
we
read
through
and
feel
that
it's
a
good
bill
that
we
could
individually
support
it,
not
necessarily
as
a
commission
but
sort
of
spread.
The
word
among
our
networks
that
it
could
be
supported.
B
So
at
this
point
I
don't
I
don't,
have
any
action
to
propose
and
if
there's
no
further
comments,
we'll
move
right
along
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
was
the
pleasant
valley
school
and,
I
would
say
the
status
on
it
is
tomorrow
on
5-4,
the
town
council
is
taking
a
vote
to
authorize
the
sale
of
the
former
pleasant
valley
school
and
hereby
recommends
the
sale
and
referral
of
the
former
pleasant
valley
school
to
the
rtm
for
approval.
Now
we
supported
development
but
wanted
to
see
how
to
protect
that
back.
B
Eight
acres
of
force
right,
I
mean
the
commercialization-
would
be
in
the
front
anyway.
So
you
know
that
that's
what
we
said
last
time.
Let's
see
what
happens,
I
I
think
it'll
well,
we'll
see
what
happens
but
anyway.
What
tomorrow
is
that
vote?
Is
there
colonel
ledger
tool?
B
We've
supported
that
in
the
password
development,
it's
eight
acres,
four
of
which
are
already
developed,
connecticut
trails
day,
so
again
get
the
third
time
to
thank
ann
and
roger
for
the
for
the
trails
day,
video.
B
On
the
screen,
sorry,
but
get
rid
of
that
all
right
now,
I'm
just
reading
off
the
agenda,
all
right
that
does
anyone
have
any
comments
on
the
trails
day
from
2021
the
virtual
trails
day.
B
Well,
I
mean
I,
I
almost
got
run
over
by
30
weapons
carrying
ladies
on
the
trails
day.
They
all
had
their
walking
sticks
with
little
very
sharp
pointy
ends,
and
they
were.
There
was
a
lot
of
them,
so
they
had
organized
their
own.
Their
own
trail
walk.
I
guess
so
it
was
that
was
interesting,
but
that
was
kind
of
fun.
That
was
all
I
had
on
it
all
right
next
was
the
report
of
chair
the
only
other.
The
funny
item
is
an
update
on
the
yukon
program.
B
B
They
made
it
they've
made
it
look
a
little
better
and
improved
the
usability
of
it,
but
they
didn't
substantially
change
any
of
the
calculations
or
input
data.
So
good
news,
bad
news
on
that
one.
So,
but
I'll
share
that
with
you
at
our
next
meeting.
So
that's
that's
it
for
that.
The
last
item
on
the
agenda
is
report
of
staff,
which
is
back
to
bruce.
A
B
All
right
and
any
other
new
business
that
anyone
would
like
to
bring
up
can.
F
I've
been
sitting
on
a
task
force
to
replace
a
bridge
in
town.
It's
called
the
groton
log
point
bridge
yes,
and
the
reason
for
just
bringing
it
up
is
that
the
bridge
needs
to
be
replaced,
two
things
that
are
happening
one.
F
Federal
regulations
about
sustainability
and
they
want
the
bridge
to
be
higher
so
that
in
the
event
of
some
sort
of
massive
storm
that
they
can
get
most
of
the
people
off
of
rotten
long
point
and
bumper
cove,
knowing
that
it
a
really
good
impact
from
a
hurricane,
the
whole
thing's
going
to
be
underwater
anyway.
F
But
prior
to
that.
So
in
the
discussions
sitting
on
the
task
force,
we
sort
of
came
up
to
okay,
we're
gonna
raise
the
bridge.
F
F
The
reason
for
bringing
it
up
tonight
is
that
one
of
the
proposals
which
the
task
force
has
supported
is
establishing
a
sidewalk
that
goes
from
escort
beach
to
the
bridge
across
the
bridge
and
into
off
to
the
first
road
that
comes
out
of
rotten,
long
train.
Each.
F
There
is
no
sidewalk
apparently,
and
to
put
that
sidewalk
in
is
obviously
to
get
people
off
the
road,
so
they
can
safely
go
back
and
forth
through
that
area,
and
the
funding
for
this
particular
bridge
that
the
feds
would
fund
something
like
80
percent
of
it
would
also
also
include
the
sidewalk,
so
the
board
has
approved
moving
ahead
to
see
about
it.
The
biggest
problem
with
that
additional
sidewalk
is
that
the.
F
F
F
F
Greg
hanover
says
that
oh,
we
do,
we've
been
maintaining
the
road
and
so
forth,
and
public
works
from
one
point
comes
back
and
says:
oh
no,
no!
No!
We
we
own
that
we
were
in
charge
of
it,
so
I
just
want
to
just
get
a
general
sense
from
the
conservation
commission.
B
Well,
I
mean,
as
somebody
that
walks
that
path
there
is
a
safety
I
mean
I
kind
of
twinge
every
time
I
kind
of
dash
across
the
bridge
and
then
go
up
on
the
side
of
the
road
and
walk
on
people.
I
guess
I'm
walking
on
people's
property.
I
feel
a
little
twitchy,
but
there's
no
place
else
to
walk
right.
You
know
when
cars
are
coming,
so
I
think
from
a
safety
point
of
view.
That
makes
a
lot
of
sense
the
rest
of
the
matter.
B
F
Well,
we're
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
sitting
on
the
task
force
is
to
look
at
the
environmental
impact
on
the
causeway
underneath
during
construction
that
they
might
do
that.
F
F
People
voted
for
the
sidewalk
and
one
person
did
not,
and
I
just
because
I'm
representing
the
conservation
commission
on
the
task
force-
and
I
haven't
we've-
had
about
five
months
of
meetings
that
I
haven't
brought
anything
for
you
because
it
didn't
anything
to
be
of
a
sort
of
discussion.
B
Okay,
so
you're
you're,
basically
saying
you'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
the
conservation
commission
supports
the
sidewalk
for
safety
that
connects
the
beach
property
up
into
the
launch.
Point
area
is
that
is
that,
basically,
what
you're
asking
for
okay
so
I'll
take
it?
If
that's
your
motion,
is
there
a
second
to
raise
motion
tom
open
the
seconded
discussion,
michelle.
D
F
We
have
in
the
past,
we
have
supported
sidewalks
where
there
weren't.
F
F
Other
neighborhoods
that
are
at
bottom
of
the
hill
toward
juxtan
avenue
or
stanton
farms
in
those
areas
and
the
town
was
able
to
negotiate
a
and
put
in
a
sidewalk.
That's
there
now
and
it
looks
like
it's
been
there
for
a
long
time,
but
so
we
have
they
put
our
put
our
shovel
in
the
sand
sort
of
speak
to
to
speak
on
these
issues.
I
think
it
is.
Safety
takes
people
off
the
street
and
also
it's
a
connector
for
people.
F
B
C
Tom
yeah,
I
agree
with
what
gray
is
saying
here:
relative
to
being
able
to
have
accessibility
from
from
town
property
to
town
property
and
through,
particularly
in
this
area,
where
you
putting
the
sidewalk
in
and
crossing
a
high
traffic
area,
is
helpful
because
you've
got
the
escrow
point
beach
area
over
to
the
conservation
areas
that
are
maintained
by
the.
C
Conservation,
commission,
that
sidewalk
is
a
critical
element,
is
being
able
to
have
accessibility
between
the
two
conservation
areas.
So
I
I
agree
with
that.
We
should
be
supporting
the
sidewalk.
F
G
F
F
H
B
B
Yeah
she's
frozen
her
voice
is
what
the
picture
is
all
right.
Okay,
so
you
got
that
bruce.
Yes,
thanks
bray,
other
new
business
or.
B
B
C
I'll
be
back
in
a
a
couple
on
wednesday.
I
come
back
into
town.