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From YouTube: Town of Groton Conservation Commission 10/5/20
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Conservation Commission - October 5, 2020. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/file/getfile/45197
A
A
B
The
reason
it
looks
like
I
don't
know
why
it
must
be
the
way
this
is
set
up,
but
we're
already
starting
so
just
to
let
you
know
we're
recording.
We
don't
have
to
start
the
meeting,
but
we're
recording.
C
B
All
right
resumed,
okay,
good
all
right,
so
my
name
is
bruce
lofgren,
I'm
here
with
the
town
of
groton
office
of
planning
and
development
services.
This
is
the
conservation
commission
meeting
on
october
5th
2020.
B
chairman
is
larry
dunn
and
he
will
be
running
the
meeting
during
the
public
communications
portion
of
the
meeting.
Anyone
who
would
wish
to
speak
from
the
attendees
can
do
so
if
they
raise
their
hand,
virtually
that's
usually
located
on
the
bottom
of
the
screen,
and
the
chairman
will
call
on
you
to
to
comment
it's
also
applicable
to
other
agenda
items
as
well
with
that
where
you
can
take
the
role
and
start
the
meeting.
A
All
right,
you
could
let
eugenia
in
she's
out
there
in
the
waiting
area,
so
larry
dunn,
chairman
tom.
E
A
All
right
and
that's
it-
we
just
made
a
quorum
first
topic
is
the
draft
minutes
of
9
14.
A
All
right,
seeing
as
there's
no
comments,
I'm
sitting
here,
looking
at
it,
I
didn't
see
anything
either
all
right.
All
in
favor
of
accepting
the
minutes
raise
their
hand
all
right.
I
see
four
four,
four,
four,
none
against
none
abstaining
all
right.
The
next
topic
is
public
communications.
F
Nice
to
see
you
so
I'll
get
right
to
the
point.
I
wanted
to
talk
with
you
about
a
project
that
gca
is
engaged
with,
because
we
want
to
know
if
any
of
you
might
be
interested
in
joining
with
us
on
this
as
a
result
of
the
the
work
that
I
was
doing
with
the
knowing
gardens
and
listening
to
all
the
town
councillors
talk
about
especially
leanne
obre
talking
about
inequities
between
the
east
side
and
the
west
side,
and
porsche
on
that
subject.
F
That
was
one
of
the
reasons
when
the
merit
properties
swap
took
place
a
couple
of
years
ago,
the
that
king
property
was
selected
over
by
the
kolnasky
school,
and
but
nothing
has
really
been
done
to
make
that
property
more
accessible
to
the
folks
over
there
or
we
don't
even
know
if
they
even
know
that
it
exists
as
open
space,
and
so
I
gave
I
gave
a
call
to
john
burt
and
john
burt
thought.
F
It
would
be
a
wonderful
idea
if,
if
we
would
try
to
do
something
like
that
that
he
would
like
to
be
involved,
he
he
said
that
the
town
could
certainly
put
up
signs
and
wanted
to
know
if
we
could
be
try
to
put
together.
A
group
of
people
to
to.
You
know,
try
to
make
this
happen,
and
so
I've
been
in
touch
with
patrice
who's.
F
Interested
I've,
especially
been
in
touch
more
recently
with
conrad
heed,
because
conrad
lives
over
in
the
neighborhood
right
next
door
on
the
west
side
of
birch,
plain
creek,
which
is
the
the
portion
of
the
property
that
has
not
and
doesn't
have
any
trails
developed
there
at
all.
And
that's
where
we'd
like
we'd,
really
like
to
see
some
a
trail
built
conrad
has
come
up
with
a
great
list
of
names
of
people
on
the
west
side,
because
we
really
want
this
we're
just
trying
to
enable
this
project.
F
We'd
really
like
to
see
the
people
on
the
west
side
of
town
actually
do
this,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
calling
a
meeting
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
We
have
a
number
of
names
on
a
list
here:
people
who
are
really
excited
and
people
who
are
movers
and
shakers
on
the
west
side
of
town.
We
might
we
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
going
to
be
diversity
on
this
committee
that
we're
setting
up-
and
we
seem
to
be-
you-
know,
moving
along
in
that
direction.
F
Sue
sutherland
has
agreed
to
to
design
a
trail
for
that
side
of
the
property
that
doesn't
have
a
trail,
so
things
are
falling
into
place
and
because,
having
read
several
times
your
open
space
plan,
and
especially
the
most
the
the
most
recent
draft.
You
had
some
great
information
there
about
a
social
justice
and
the
environment
who
was
responsible
for
doing
most
of
that
research.
On
on
the
the
social
justice
aspect,
tom,
you
were
yeah,
we
thought
it.
F
Whoever
was
responsible
for
that,
might
want
to
sit
in
on
these
meetings,
but
that's
just
just
just
an
idea.
We
know
that
you're
very
busy.
We
appreciate
all
of
the
hard
work
that
you've
been
doing
and
that
you
can
continue
to
do
so.
So
that's
that's
all
I
I
wanted
to
say.
Please
contact
us
if
you're
at
all
interested
in
participating
in
this
effort.
Thank
you
and
I
see
liz.
A
Yep
she's
there
you're
on
mute.
A
There's
something
wrong
with
her
computer,
then,
because
it
shows
all
right.
I
said
we
can
open
it
for
discussion.
I
think
you
did
point
out
that
it
is
part
of
the
conservation
plan.
A
One
of
the
thoughts
that
come
to
mind
is
we
are
doing
a
series
of
segments
on
the
conservation
plan
in
open
space,
and
it
occurred
to
me
that
maybe
one
segment
could
be
on
community
action
in
in
this
particular
property
to
show
you
know
the
start
of
it,
whether
it's
the
creation
of
the
trails
and
that
would
provide
some
publicity.
We've
already
got
agreement
with
the
parks
and
rec
to
get
onto
their
facebook
page
with
these
segments,
etc.
So
I
mean
that's
one
thought
that
we
could
do.
A
Let
me
throw
it
open
for
discussion.
Anyone
would
like
to
comment.
D
This
is
tom
olson,
two
two
items
one
is
you
asked
about
my
personal
involvement?
I
don't
know
how
much
I'll
personally
get
involved
right
now.
I've
kind
of
gotten
sucked
into
the
pipeline
trail
up
in
preston,
but
I'll
see
what
I
can
do,
but
one
of
the
things
from
my
discussions
when
I
met
with
the
groton
city
conservation
commission,
is
that
they
have
not
been
involved
in
anything,
and
they
freely
admit
that.
D
F
We
already
have
somebody
okay,
one
rtm
person
from
that
side
and
also
one
person
who's
actually
involved
in
the
city
of
groton
government.
D
Okay,
well,
it's
just
that
they
have
a
full
up
conservation
commission,
just
like
we
are
here
just
to
let
you
know
that
they,
you
know
they've
got
regular
formal
meetings
and
that
whole
thing,
just
okay,
as
far
as
to
you,
might
want
to
be
making
a
plea
over
to
them
directly
because
they
they
admit
because
they
are
a
joint
inland
wetlands
conservation
commission
and
they
freely
admit
that
99
of
their
stuff
is
inland
wetlands.
So
this
would
give
them
an
opportunity
to
branch
out
a
little
bit.
So
I
just
encourage
that.
D
E
I
just
want
to
say
that
as
kristin,
I
just
think
it's
a
great
idea
and
I
think
it's,
I
think,
you'll
find
a
lot
of
enthusiasm,
maybe
on
that
side
of
town
and
support
your
efforts,
it's
a
good
thing
to
do.
Thank
you.
C
No,
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
and
the
more
that
the
community
is
involved
in
helping
within
improve
the
town,
the
trail
systems,
all
the
better,
because
it
it
makes
more
people
aware
of
not
only
the
project
that
they're
working
on,
but
they
may
look
at
other
trails
in
the
town
take
advantage
of
them.
F
Yeah
we're
hoping
that
this
could
be
the
sort
of
the
the
first
experience
only
that
this
would
be
the
the
first
one
and
then
move
from
from
the
king
property
once
we
get
that
up
and
running
to
another
one
potentially
boulder
heights.
I
don't
know,
that's
that's
there's
so
many
boulders
there
for
sure
how
feasible
it
is
to
to
really
put
in
any
trails
there.
But
there
are
some
trails
there.
It's
just
getting
access
to
them.
A
Getting
access
there?
Well,
let
me
I
mean
you've
seen
the
support
from
from
all
of
us.
What
I
think
is
I
like
the
idea
of
maybe
a
property
gets
adopted.
You
know
which
is
kind
of
what
you're
saying
about
the
local.
A
You
know,
folks
that
are
more
local
to
it
and
let
me
reach
out
to
a
little
bit
a
bit
to
see
if
we
can
do
a
video
on
this,
so
kristen
I'll
reach
out
to
becky
to
see
if
if
this
might
be
a
second
thing
to
do
that,
talks
about
maybe
two
two
segments,
one
is
the
people
that
you
know.
Why
do
they
want
to
do
it.
F
A
Then
another
one
after
they're
finished
with
it,
you
know-
maybe
you
know
here-
was
the
result
that
would
get
out
there
in
the
community
and
then
part
of
the
getting
more
you
know.
What's
the
next
property
get
people
more
involved,
so
I
think
that
getting
the
advertisement
is
probably
the
wrong
word,
but
getting
community
awareness
involvement
awareness
is
kind
of
what
I
like
to
pursue.
A
Also,
I
would
ask
virginia
if
there's
I
mean
I
don't
know
tom,
you
know.
Maybe
we
could
add
some
text
to
our
section
if
there's
something
that
you
know
could
be
added
for
as
a
specific
example
genia
I
would
have.
I
would
certainly
support
getting
into
the
conservation
plan,
as
you
know,
part
of
a
living
document,
but
I'll
kind
of
leave
that
one
with
you
to
see.
If
that
makes
sense,
you
know
a
paragraph
or
two
that
could
be
added
to
that
section.
F
Right
I
mean
this
is
this
is
the
first
thing
we
have
to
do
is
just
get
this
group
of
people
together
which
we're
hoping
to
do
in
a
week
or
two,
because
conrad
has
contacted
a
number
of
people
on
the
west
side
of
town.
F
We
we,
maybe
potentially
the
navy
gosa-
is
really
good
with
with
contacting
you
know,
navy
volunteers,
I
don't
know
about
coast
guard,
but
but
I
think
that
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
interest
right
now
in
engaging,
and
especially
this
kind
of
project
that
that
is
trying
to
promote
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
So.
A
Right
tom.
D
Yeah,
the
only
from
your
laundry
list
of
organizations
you
just
rattled
off
there.
I
didn't
hear
pfizer
and
agosa
regularly
uses
pfizer,
there's
a
whole
program.
That's
involved.
D
And
they
and
they
actually,
if
you
get
more
than
five
people
involved,
you
actually
can
get
some
cash
to
also
help
out
on
defraying
costs
that
may
come
along.
We
have
about
almost
between
twenty
five
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars
available.
If
you
can
get
like
a
group
of
five
pfizer
folks,
that
would
would
be
supportive
and
it's
in
their
community,
so
it
should
be
very
easy
to
find
and
the
point
of
contact
with
with
is
wendy
spader
with
gossip.
F
A
Okay,
so
we
do
have.
We
still
can't
hear
you
liz,
I'm
sorry,
you
did
go
out
and
come
back
in
again.
Didn't
you.
D
A
Yeah
twice
all
right:
you
need
some
tech
support,
so
unfortunately,
all
right,
let's
see
so
that
then
we'll
move
on
to
our
items
of
business
and
the
first
one
is
a
conservation
plan
update.
A
A
So
I'm
I
suppose
I
should
ask:
if
have
you
all
had
a
chance
to
you
know
kind
of
go
through
those
comments
I
know
tom
has.
I
have
christian's
not
in
ray.
Have
you
had
a
chance?
Okay
and
there's
a
couple
of
ways
to
approach
this?
When
I
looked
through
it,
there
was
maybe
three
categories
of
topics
generally
one
was
what
I
would
call
factual,
which
says:
oh
gee,
this
particular
property
was
should
have
been
labeled
this
versus
that
or
whatever.
So
that's
one
set
another
set.
A
I
would
label
political
g,
you
don't
have
the
authority
to
do
this,
or
to
do
that,
I
mean
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
second
and
then
the
third
one
were
well
the
other
category
which
led
to
more
general
comments
about.
A
You
know
the
documents
too
big
or
you
shouldn't
talk
about
taxes
in
a
in
a
conservation
plan
document
or
things
of
that
nature.
A
A
I
did
a
fourth
category,
which
was
the
things
addressing
the
economic
model
itself
right
and
I've
already
kind
of
made
my
comments
in
response
to
that
and
send
it
to
the
to
the
text
team
through
tom
to
be
addressed
as
part
of
the
text
committee.
A
So
if,
if
that
approach
is
looks
or
sounds
good,
what
I
would
suggest
is
we
chat
a
little
bit
on
the
let's
call
it
the
authority
side
or
the
or
the
the
political
side
and
then
see
if
we
can
maybe
talk
about
the
the
top
items
on
the
all
category
that
tom
has
identified.
So
let
me
throw
that
out
there
is
that
an
appropriate
way
to
proceed
agreement
or
comments.
D
Okay
olson,
as
far
as
for
all
your
factual
items,
I
you
know,
I
tried
to
already
jump
on
those
and
I
found
those
were
only
in
two
in
two
of
the
sets
of
the
four
comments
or
five
comments
that
we
packages
that
we
received
just
from
the
one
from
sue
sutherland
and
also
from
the
planning
staff.
So
I've
I've
already
working
with
kristin,
have
pulled
out.
D
What
I
feel
are
the
are
all
the
factual
items
for
the
text
team
to
to
work
go
work
on,
and
I
basically
already
got
a
draft
of
those
corrections
already
made
that
I'd
be
available.
I
can
post
it
here
if
I
want
to
go
through
it
all,
but
I
think,
but
there's
still
a
large
number
of
items
for
all
of
us
to
discuss
that.
I
think
we
just
need
to
kind
of
plow
through
the
alls
as
a
group
here
and
if
you've
got
your
all
sorted
some
way,
I
don't.
D
I
just
have
them
sorted,
whether
it's
all
text
or
data
and
as
far
as
for
all
the
comments.
But
if
you
want
to
go
through,
as
I
would
be
recommending
that
today,
the
most
effective
thing
is
is
if
you,
if
we
can
sort
through
some
of
the
all
things,
that
there
are
changes
that
we
need
to
do
to
the
plan
that
I
can
then
start
working
with
the
tech
team
can
start
working
on
those,
because
I
do
have
time
over
the
next
two
weeks
here
to
sort
through
all
those.
A
All
right,
I
guess
that's
where
I
was
going
to
get
to
a
bray
with
with
michelle
being
sort
of
out
of
pocket.
If
you,
if
you
would
be
willing
to
take
a
look
at
the
data
topics
in
the
in
the
document
tom
did
you
did
that
get
sent
out
or
not
the
only
one
right.
D
The
only
thing
in
place
that
I
sentence
is
just
our
two,
the
discussion
between
the
two
of
us
and
then
I
did
keep
the
two
sets
of
comments
and
the
updated
text.
I
sent
that
to
the
team
the
text
team,
as
far
as
for
where
we
are
for
as
of
tonight,
as
far
as
so,
they
can
take
a
look
at
that
in
advance.
D
A
Right,
if
you
could
send
a
copy
that
has
the
identified
data
line
items
to
bray,
then
he
could
begin
to
look
at
that,
and
maybe
you
know,
as
a
sub
group
fray,
you
and
I
machine.
A
The
data
too
yeah
there
wasn't
that's
right,
there
wasn't
a
lot,
that's
why
I
was
just
suggesting
it
probably
easiest
to
go
through
it
to
do
that,
all
right.
So
that's
one
item.
I
think
the
way
to
do
this.
Then
tom
you've
got
the
document
with
the
tags
on
it.
Do
you
want
to
share
the
screen
and
bring
that
up
this.
D
A
D
Would
be
the
comments
like
from
the
planning
office
and
let
me
bring
that
close
this
and
bring
this
up.
D
I
am
not
sure
okay,
this
is
the
memorandum
from
principally,
I
think,
bruce
and
and
deb.
I
don't
know
who
else
was
involved
in
it,
but
I
could
tell
some
of
the
comments
were
deb's
just
from
the
tone,
but
what
I
did
is
I
basically
there
was.
They
gave
us
a
set
of
general
comments
and
then
I
said,
assign
them
to
the
text
or
to
the
alls
so
from
just
going
down
here
is
that
we
have
basically,
on
the
general
comments
I
just
said,
agree
or
disagree.
D
I
didn't
make
any
changes.
You
know
that
we
we
agree
that
there's
going
to
be
some
reference
terminologies.
If
there's
issues
with
mappings,
I
agree
with
all
that
there
are
sections
to
be
improved
for
additional
referencing.
I
found
those
errors.
I
agree
with
all
those
and
then
we
have
a
comment
in
here
for
everybody.
In
regard
to
some
areas,
the
plan
can
be
approved
and
enhanced
at
the
subdivision
regulations.
Inline
web
ranks
pod
pocd.
D
D
I
haven't
gotten
to
specifics
on
here,
but
the
my
from
my
viewpoint,
I
I
would
agree
with
these
and
from
what
I,
after
we're
spending
a
lot
of
time
with
the
looking
through
the
text
items.
In
the
specific
comments,
I
think,
we've
I've
corrected
some
of
like
the
issues
with
the
zoning
commission
and
the
inland
wetlands
commissions,
and
I
think
that's
really
what
she
was
referencing
so
to
some
degree
I'd
say
I
we.
We
should
agree
with
this-
that
we'll
correct
any
of
these
identifications.
D
A
Responsibilities
right,
so
I
I
agree
as
well.
I
took
a
whack
at
the
action
items
in
section
seven,
I
think
I
forwarded
that
to
you
tom,
where
I
kind
of
updated
it
to
that
point
of
of
planning
and
zoning
where,
if
we
kind
of
flip
it
they're
responsible
with
whatever
we
have
so
you
know,
I
did
provide
my
input
to
that.
I
would
suggest
that
perhaps
we
leave
it
well.
A
A
little
a
little
hoots
way
here
is
I'll,
take
take
my
recommendations
and
put
it
in
there
and
then
get
it
back
out
to
the
team
to
see
if
there's
agreement
on
it-
and
we
can
review
that-
I'm
trying
to
think
of
the
sequence
here
at
our
next
meeting,
because
I'd
like
to
close
this
out
and
have
a
draft
three
or
a
final
draft
approval
notice
that
our
next
meeting,
if
possible
right
so
that
be
my
suggestion
there
in
essence,
guys
really
it.
A
It
takes
the
conservation
commission
in
probably
60
70
percent,
of
the
time
where
it
was
us
with
the
planning
department.
We
said
it's
the
planning
department
supported
by
us.
I
mean
I
kind
of
flipped
a
lot
of
those
responsibilities
where
it
seemed
that
you
know
they
were
to
click
to
clear
it
up,
I
mean
and
to
clarify
who
really
had
the
point
on
it
and
where
we
push
rather
than
are
responsible.
A
So
if
that's
okay,
I'll
leave
for
a
quick,
you
know
head
nod
or
agreement
that
that
particular
one
we
can
leave
it
that
way
or
tom
comments.
D
E
D
The
next
one
was
the
economic
model
for
everybody
just
to
let
them
know
that
we
you
know,
is
that,
should
we
I
take
away
is
the
second
sentence
here:
does
the
model
does
not
compare
open
space
acquisition
to
commercial,
multi-family
and
other
types
of
development,
and
I
think
that's
a
and
I've
heard
that
that's
kind
of
also
in
mr
pritchard's
comments
and
some
other
one,
and
also
the
there's
some
likewise
from
the
housing
authority.
There's
just
a
tone
of
you
know
that
it's
everything
is
focused
on
single-family
and
making
it
look
good.
D
Should
we
be
putting
a
second
example
like
we
have
an
example
in
there
for
america,
family
forest
in
appendix
I
think,
it's
c
or
d
that
should
we
be
adding
another
example
that
has
you
know
a
commercial
type
of
example
that
may
not
come
out
as
more
as
positive
just
for
transparency.
A
A
A
We
took
a
lot
of
that
stuff
out
and
created
a
separate
document
called
the
economic
model
user
manual
that
has
all
that
stuff
in
there
you
know
so
my
view
is
we
have
the
two
documents
I
would
I
would
say,
and
I
was
coming
up
later
on
this
thing
you
know
I'm
I
was
going
to
suggest
that
we
offer
to
zoning
and
the
planning
department
an
opportunity
to
sit
down
there
and
review
our
points.
You
know
where
we're
at.
A
I
will
point
out
that
this
is
our
document.
We
don't
need
anyone's
approval
other
than
us,
the
folks
here.
To
put
it
out,
we
want
to
be
factual
and
correct,
but
on
this
one
is,
I
think,
that's
a
clarification
yeah
we
can.
I
think
I
do
have
some
examples.
You
know
the
no
wank
property
one.
We
ran
some
or
I
ran
something
that
was
multi-family,
the
just
the
fyi.
A
If
you
forgot,
when
you
look
at
commercial,
almost
any
commercial
development,
if
you
will
would
more
than
likely
have
a
very
positive
economic
value
over
the
open
space
values
because
it
runs
like,
I
think
it's
like
60
cents
on
a
date,
in
other
words,
it
costs
the
town,
60
cents
for
every
dollar.
In
taxes,
where
you
know
single
residents,
it
costs
the
town
like
a
dollar
20
for
every
dollar
in
taxes.
So
I
mean
those
are
generic
kinds
of
discussion,
so
I
don't
think
I
can't
remember.
A
I
think
that
point
is
clearly
made
in
the
user
manual.
I
don't
recall
now
that
I
think
about
it
if,
if
that
made
it
into
the
overall
document,
but
that's
that's
my
view,
is
we
have
a
separate
document?
A
You
know,
maybe
you
know
push
them
more
in
that
direction.
To
kind
of
look
at
that
document,
but
that's
you
know,
that's
my
view,
so
let
me
throw
that
open
for
comments.
C
C
So
if
we
could
have
just
something
in
expand
this
one
a
little
bit
more
to
give
out
some
information
and
then
a
reference
to
the
standalone
document
that
you
were
talking
about.
D
I
agree
with
bray.
I
think
we
should
put
something
in
here
and
I'll
work
with
the
tech
team
to
to
put
that
together
and
pretend
and
also
take
a
look
at
one
one,
additional
alternative
sample
just
to
show
that
there's
some
versatility
to
the
model,
but
with
a
strong
recommendation
back
to
the
user
manual
for
for
further
detail.
D
A
Yeah
the
text
that
the
text
would
be
in
the
user
manual
yeah-
it
does
have
right.
It
does
have
all
that
stuff
in
there
there's
one
chart
specifically
that
shows
the
economic
impacts
of
commercial
multi-family
single
family,
et
cetera
that
that
has
some
of
these
numbers
I
talked
about.
You
know
the
90
cents
versus
a
dollar
20..
Maybe
that's
the
right
one,
but
that
that
certainly
is
available.
So
you
don't
have
to
do
research,
it's
all!
It's!
It's
in
the
user
manual
yeah.
D
D
All
right,
okay,
the
next
one
was
six
we
agreed
with.
It
was
just
you
know
things
this.
The
last
this
next
one
is,
I
I'm
still
kind
of
going
through
my
mind
here
is
the
use
of
the
green
belt
should
be
changed
to
greenways
throughout,
and
the
plan
uses
these
terms
interchangeably.
I
would
strongly
argue
against
that.
We,
but
I
think,
what's
happened
here.
Is
that
time
since
the
pocd
came
out
where
the
pocp
went
from
green
brakes
to
green
belts,
they
put
a
map
together.
That
says
green.
D
They
talk
green
belts,
but
their
map
title
says
green
of
waves
proposed
greenways
and
that's
what
what's
caused
some
of
the
confusion
here
is
that
we've
been
using
that
our
baseline
as
those
are
the
green
belts,
and
that
we
would
want
to
entertainer
is
chase,
get
some
type
certain
things
of
those
green
belts
marked
as
green
ways
and
get
interconnection
also
with
ledger
new
new
londons
and
potentially
stoningtons.
D
So
I
thought
I
had
done
a
good
job
of
trying
to
describe
green
bells
is
the
system
that
we
have
and
the
green
waves
is
what
is
what's
approved
by
the
state.
D
Okay,
and
and
because
this,
what
what
partisan
rex
did
in
2019
was
take
the
whole
green
belt
system
and
throw
it
to
the
state
and
the
in
the
state
has
never
responded
all
right.
E
It's
christian,
can,
I
add,
they're
not
randomly
used
interchangeably.
I
mean,
I
think
we
consciously
paid
attention
to
which
ones
were,
as
you
said,
state
defined
versus
locally
defined,
there's
a
difference,
they're,
not
one
in
the
same,
and
we
didn't
use
them
interchangeably.
We
used
them
carefully
and
appropriately.
A
Yeah,
I
I
thought
that
was
in
there.
I
believe
it
is
yeah
now
whether
it's
jumps
out
at
you
or
not,
but
I
did
go
through
there
and
I
thought
I
saw
that
in
there
yeah
yeah.
D
D
A
You
know
once
we
get
through
this
as
we
make
an
offer
to
sit
down,
and
you
know
after
we've
made
our
decisions
to
sit
down
with
the
you
know,
the
planning
department
and
say
we'll
offer
to
go
through
the
decision
we've
made
cetera,
but
my
view
is,
is
our
vote
is
to
vote
right
on
what
we
want
to
do.
D
D
Yeah
a
couple
items
I
we
agree,
but
on
number
nine
this
is
this
is
written
with
us
one
voice.
I
won't
argue
that,
but
I
don't
know
how
at
what
point
we
want
to
have
somebody
be
an
editorial,
but
obviously,
as
you
can
see
here
today,
I'm
taking
inputs
from
everybody
and
trying
to
put
your
sections
in
there
and
we
intentionally
made
it
with
multi-voices.
A
D
I
know
I
can
tell
you
that
kristen
and
and
and
have
done
it
very
they've,
tried
it
their
best
to
get
it's
correcting
my
terminologies
and
making
sure
that
it
tries
to
flow.
But
I
just
I
I
don't
know
you
know.
Obviously
it
could
always
be
improved,
but
but
I
don't
think
it's
worth
at
this
point
doing
much
more
on
that
one.
So.
E
I'm
I
might,
I
would
point
out,
it's
kristin,
that,
yes,
it
does
have
a
number
of
authors,
that's
a
recommendation.
Maybe
they
want
to
rewrite
it.
So
it's
written
in
one
voice
and
we've
written
it.
As
is,
I
think
it's
it's
makes
sense.
There
are
different
authors
like
yeah.
I
don't
think
we
have
to
do
anything
about
that.
B
D
The
next
item
is
was
for
the
is
one
that's
assigned
to
the
debt.
This
is
one
of
the
two
items
for
the
data
teams
that
the
number
of
maps
are
up.
Documents
show
areas
certain
habitat.
This
document
would
be
viewed.
So
if
these
maps
are
overlaid
on
a
map
of
the
town's
open
place,
I
don't
know
how
to
do
that
with
the
technology,
and
I
think
this
is
really
michelle
more
than
brave.
No,
nothing
against
brave.
D
So,
but
I'm
just
that's
the
one
one
of
the
two
items
for
the
data
team,
so
we'll
pass
on
that
now,
when
we
start
getting
into
specific
page
number
stuff
here,
the
first
one
here
for
everybody
was
whether
we
want
to
approve
or
adopt
the
pocd
is
adopted.
D
D
A
Well,
let
me
let
me
buck
that
one
to
bruce
and
and
bray
our
historian
here
in
terms
of
the
proper
use
of
approved
versus
adopted,
because
it's
by
us
all
right,
so
we
could
choose
whichever
word
we
want.
I
think
unless
there's
some
historic
precedent
so
bray
any
any
of
you
from
your
side.
C
We
asked
for
comments
on
the
outside
and
this
is
coming
back
from
the
planning
department
and
it's
the
type
of
terminology
appears
to
me
that
they're
used
to
using-
and
I
because
we're
referring
to
the
plan
of
conservation
development
as
well
as
other
parts
of
the
town
regulations,
to
be
on
the
same
page
for
the
same
type
of
vocabulary.
C
B
This
came
from
deb,
but
I
know
the
terminology
adopted
implies
that
you
know
going
to
be
used
as
a
future
model
and
something
that
would
be
referred
to
during
you
know,
recommendations
not
just
a
plan
that
was
approved
to
adopt
it's
kind
of
more
implied
that
it's
a
a
you
like
a
guide
and
a
reference
stop,
I
think
also
where
they
turned
up
came
from
was
whether
or
not
the
commission
wants
to
have
the
council
look
at
this
and
whether
they
want
to
adopt
the
plan
as
well,
and
that's
really
up
to
to
you
how
you
want
to
go
about
council's
involvement
in
this.
B
A
Well,
I
I'm
okay
with
adopted,
I
went
back
and
just
quickly
looked
gray
at
the
original
one
from
90..
It
just
says,
prepared,
didn't
use
either
word.
It
was
so
safe
route
to
safe
right
so
adopted
is
to
me
sounds
like
the
weakers.
I
don't
mean
it
to
be
weak
in
in
the
negative
sense,
but
it
then
allows
us
to
go
forward
and
ask
the
town
council
to
approve
it
or
you
know,
sort
of
something
beyond
you
know
a
doctor's,
I'm
okay
with
adopted.
I
don't
think
it
has
a
legal
definition
at
all.
B
D
Terminology-
okay,
moving
along
here
to
the
next
one,
is
on
page
six
here
in
the
second
paragraph
I
use
the
word,
the
terminology
of
concentration
commission
doesn't
have
a
charter,
it's
unclear
where
the
list
came
from.
The
original
list
of
responsibilities
comes
out
of
this
abc
document.
That's
listed
on
the
town
website,
that
was,
it
was
approved
by
the
town
council
and
the
rtm,
and
it
lists
for
it's
a
package.
Now
I
don't
know
what
those
individual
pages
are
called.
E
A
D
That's
a
common
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
really
apply
to
that
individual
pay
of
the
responsibilities
of
that
individual
page.
So
I
didn't
know
I
can
try
to
weasel
word
around
it.
I
think
that
if
we'll
take
it
as
a
text
team-
but
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
let
everybody
know
that
that's
you
know
I
didn't
have
any
better
words
to
use
at
the
time.
So
I
used
the
word
charter.
Obviously
we're
getting
called
on
that,
and
I
have
no
problem
with
that.
C
A
Maybe
you
know
change
it
to
that.
You
know
because
that's
exact,
because
I
went
and
double
checked
it
and
what
it
says
is
exactly
what
we
put
in
there
yeah.
So
that's
fine
and
I
guess
the
word
charter
versus.
B
A
A
A
D
Okay
and
the
next
one
was
the
black
is
a
buffer
for
grounds
that
just
changes
to
will
to
may
and
that
I
don't
have
any
agreed
things
there
and
the
recommending
reinforcing
enforcement,
because
it's
owning
regulation
law
enforcement
by
state
statute.
I
just
want
to
put
this
out
to
everybody
that
and
I'll
correct
these
removing
the
reference
of
enforcement.
D
D
Okay,
now
moving
on
to
page
seven,
which
is
the
consider
replacing
the
phrase
enduring
social
justice,
was
enduring
equitable
distribution
of
parks
and
open
space.
I
don't
know
where
this
comes
from
the
standardized
terminology,
that's
being
used
by
the
state
of
social
justice.
D
I
had
never
heard
of
ensuring
equitable
distribution
of
parks
and
open
states,
and
I
didn't
know
they
agree
with
us.
The
concept
needs
to
be
there,
but
the
standardization
of
terminology,
I'm
kind
of
questioning.
A
A
I'm
just
looking
at
it
right
now:
availability
of
open
space
throughout
the
community.
I
mean
we,
we
change
it.
You
know
section
2.8,
so
so
I
think
we
agreed
as
a
body
that
that
social
justice
today
is
now
means
racist,
racial
equality
and
some
other
things.
Now.
This
is
the
formal
term
used
by
used
by
right,
historically
been
used,
so
we
got
a
little
bit
of
a
of
a
problem
of.
What's
what
officially
the
state
says
versus
you
know,
gee,
we,
you
know
well,
so
I'm
trying
to
struggle
with
doing
this.
E
Chris,
christina
I'm
just
going
to
say
that
you
know
part
of
the
the
problem
with
ensuring
equitable
distribution
is
that
the
west
side
of
town
is
very
densely
developed
with
the
city,
so
there
really
is
no
opportunity
for
open
space
over
there.
So
as
much
as
you
would
like
to
plunk
some
open
space
over
there,
there's
just
there's
no
land
available.
So
you
know
the
idea
is
good,
but
in
reality
I'm
not
sure
that
it's
actually
possible.
You
know
in
terms
of.
C
It's
being
thrown
around
for
lots
of
reasons
right
now,
you
know
politically
and
out
in
and
out
in
the
open
and
where
maybe
rephrasing,
ensuring
equitable
distribution
of
parks
and
open
space
that,
I
think,
defines
it
much
better
than
just
ensuring
social
justice,
because
when
you
say
social
justice
as
everybody's
been
saying
that
raises
certain
flags
depending
upon
what
you
read
or
hear
and
so
forth,
but
it
doesn't
apply
to
necessarily
directly
to
open
space
where
equitable
distribution
of
parks
and
open
space.
C
I
also
agree
that
the
city
has
a
difficult
time,
because
they
don't
have
much
land
to
offer
up
because
they
are
so
densely
built
out.
C
C
That's
the
nature
of
what
we're
dealing
with.
So
I
wouldn't
necessarily
hold
that
against
the
city,
and
I
wouldn't
necessarily
looking
at
equitable
distribution
of
parks
and
open
space.
I
don't
want
to
get
into.
We.
We've
promoted
no
inc,
just
like
school
site
as
a
park
and
then
now,
all
of
a
sudden,
we
have
to
come
back
and
offer
something
up
in
the
city.
I
I
don't
see
this.
I
don't
want
to
get
into
that
direction
whatsoever
and
I
don't
think
we
anywhere
in
our
document
we're
doing
that,
but
ensuring
social
justice.
D
A
All
right,
I
have
another
suggestion
here
in
our
criteria.
I
was
looking
for
that
concept
and
the
closest
thing
was:
proximity
is
partially
easy
accessible
to
residential
neighborhoods.
If,
if
that
text
is
modified,
perhaps
to
get
this
flavor
in
there,
so
it's
in
the
criteria.
D
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
that
would
also
be
a
move
in
the
right
direction,
but
I
mean
so
I
I
agree.
None
of
us
like
the
word
social
justice,
but
again
we
we
change
it
to
the
term.
You
know
we.
We
agreed
to
use
the
term
availability
of
open
space
throughout
the
community,
so
just
consider
that
we
need
to
be
consistent
between
what
we
put
in
the
index
and,
what's
in
the
text,.
A
D
Moving
along
the
rest
of
these
are
text
team
items.
The
next
thing
that
comes
up
here
is
again
the
charter
issue
versus
the
guidebook.
We
already
discussed
that
the
second
time
on
that,
and
then
we
have
the
the
zoning
and
the
next
all
items.
Zoning
commission
proposal
did
not
zone
privately
owned
parcel
as
green
district.
This
one
should
not
be
used
as
a
mechanism
to
expand
open
space.
D
I
agree
with
that.
The
zoning
commission
has
zoned
the
entire
town
and
they've
identified
the
areas
that
they
that
are
currently
open
space,
large
chunks
of
it-
and
I-
and
I
outlined
that
in
there-
and
I
put
some
notes
in
there
in
regards
to
the
spot
zoning-
that's
down
in
another
comments
further
on,
but
from
I
do
the
question
I
don't
know
if
she
wants
the
zoning
map
out
of
the
out
of
the
thing,
just
leave
the
discussion
in
the
and
then
take
the
zoning
map
out
of
the
document.
D
That's
why
I
was
asking
for
everybody,
because
it
really
you
don't.
I
have
a
discussion
in
there
regarding
the
gc
and
you
know
the
definitions
of
the
two
zoning
districts,
the
green
districts,
but
we
have
the
map,
but
I
don't
know
if
the
map
really
identifies
anything.
So
should
we
take
the
map
out
that
I
was
looking
for
kind
of
concurrence
on
zapping
that
save
a
page.
A
A
So
you
know
that
paragraph
and
you
know
the
zoning
map
per
se.
I
mean
if
you
took
that
paragraph
I
mean
I'll
leave
it
with
the
texting,
but
I
think
if
you
address
that
paragraph,
then
the
zoningman
per
se
isn't
a
negative.
It's
just
a
reality,
but
I
wouldn't
have
a
problem
either
way.
But
I
do
think
that
there's
a
point
that
that's
a
valid
point:
that
zoning
doesn't
establish
open
space
per
se.
A
D
Well,
I'm
sure
the
text
indicates
that
and
we'll,
but
as
far
as
I
was
just
looking
for
the
map,
because
I
you
know,
there
are
a
lot
of
maps
in
here
and
figures
and
stuff
and
and
it
does
change
also
so
yeah.
B
Could
I
say
something
about
that?
I
don't
think
so.
The
first
part
of
that
comment
was
mine.
The
second
part
deb
added
after
she
looked
at
it.
I
I'm
not.
I
can't
imagine
she's
trying
to
say
take
the
zoning
map
out
of
the
plan.
I
don't
think
that's
the
suggestion.
I
think
what
she's
trying
to
say
here
is
you
know.
Zoning
is
the
mechanism
for
firing
open
space.
B
D
Okay,
gotcha,
okay,
we'll
update
the
words
and
to
make
sure
that
you
include
all
those
comments
moving
along
here
text
next
now.
The
next
thing
was
in
regard
to
the
fourth
paragraph
here
relative
to
public
acts
490
because
taxes
significantly
agree,
the
paragraph
should
be
expanded
to
know
that
god
allows
reduced
assessments
for
only
forest
and
farm
purposes.
The
criteria
from
these
criteria
for
each
should
be
explained.
We
should
also
explain
that
consequences
from
developed
and
partially
designated
forms
over
the
last
10
years.
D
D
Yeah
we
did
check
over
there.
I
just
want
to
point
out
this
that
she's
looking
for
more
definitions.
As
far
as
the
execution
of
the
program,
I
kind
of
stayed
away
from
all
that
intentionally
because
the
program
is
really
part
of
the
assessors
thing.
I
don't
know
how
much
more
I'm
going
to
put
into
here,
but
it
sounds
like
she
really
wanted.
Are
you
guys?
I
guess
this
is
the
bruce.
Do
you
guys
really
want
all
this
additional
information?
That's
really
part
of
the
assessors
and
the
execution
of
the
program
in
there.
No.
D
C
It
is
one
of
the
very
few
tax
abatements
that
you
can
put
on
your
property.
If
you
have
a
lot
of
they've
got
a
big
piece
of
property
with
one
house
on
it
and
it's
all,
let's
say
forested,
and
you
want
to
take
a
tax
advantage
by
not
developing
it.
Let's
say
putting
additional
structures
on
it
that
we
encourage
it.
C
The
problem
is
that
it
doesn't
really
have
the
teeth
in
it.
That.
C
It
goes
for
10
years,
the
penalty
phase,
but
you
can
continue
it
beyond
the
10-year
time
indefinitely
and
continue
that
tax
advantage.
C
C
C
The
problem
was
we,
the
land
trust,
ran
into
a
problem
that,
at
the
end
of
that
50-year
period,
the
landowner
wanted
to
donate
the
land
to
the
land,
trust,
and
there
was
a
great
deal
of
penalties
and
tax
considerations
and
so
forth
that
nobody
was
prepared
to
to
know
how
onerous
it
was
so
we're
looking
for
some
sort
of
other
middle
ground
and
we've
never
taken
the
stand
on
the
consummation
side
in
the
past
that
we're
going
to
tell
people
about
490.
C
C
So
at
some
point
in
the
future,
a
future
conversation
on
the
you
know
some
other
time
is:
what
else
could
we
do
to
put
a
little
bit
more
teeth
in
this
thing,
so
that
if
they
want
to
get
rid
of
it
within
a
short
period
of
time,
it's
going
to
cost
them.
A
Yeah,
so
so,
but
larry
I
agree
with
bray,
is
that
it's
almost
that
from
from
a
conservation
commission
point
of
view.
This
is
not
something
we
recommend
or
push.
It's
not
the
path
to
get
open
space
because
it's
so
weak,
and
so
maybe
it
doesn't.
It
implies
because
of
the
text
in
there
that
we
support
it
as
a
viable
way
of
protecting
open
space,
and
you
know
based
upon
what
bray
said,
and
I
agree
with
him
is.
Is
it
doesn't
really
I
mean
it's?
A
D
Okay,
I'll
take
action
to
include
that.
The
reason
we
even
put
490
in
here
was
as
a
mechanism
because
it
shows
up
in
our
recommendations
for
expansion
of
the
green
belts
as
far
as
mechanisms
to
getting
continuity
on
the
green
belts.
So
yeah.
C
Also
in
the
data
team,
we
were
looking
at
the
towns
maps
of
those
properties
within
the
town
that
are
under
490
currently,
and
some
of
those
490
parcels
are
of
potential
connectors
in
the
green
belt
system.
If
you
will-
and
I
I've
forgotten
whether
or
not
that's
one
of
the
maps-
that's
included
in
one
of
the
maps
that
we
have
in
our
document,
it.
D
C
Oh,
I
guess
someplace
in
here
somebody
said
that
just
a
quick
short
explanation,
that
the
forest
is
25
acres
and
you
have
to
have
a
minimum
of
25.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
contiguous
and
for
farm.
I
I've
forgotten
exactly
it's
not
the
size,
but
it's
that
you're
actively
can
show
that
you're
farming
tax
receipts
or
something
like
that.
C
D
D
Does
a
assessor
concur,
this
is
for
everybody's
information.
I
know
that
larry
has
talked
to
the
assessor.
I
have
personally
talked
to
the
assessor.
She
has
she
understands
she.
She
has
understood
this,
but
has
not
personally
conducted
a
self-assessment
to
validate
larry
stuff
because
she
it
was
fairly
arduous
and
when
she
explained
it
to
me
that
she
hasn't
taken
on.
She
does
agree
that
the
general
trend
on
a
national
basis
is
this
and
she
feels
that
groton
is
typically,
it
reflects
the
national
trends
and
so
she's.
D
She
she
would
not
dismiss
it
out
of
hand,
and
no,
this
is
totally
garbage,
so
she
she
would
lean
to
say
what
we
said
is
correct
with
just
the
general
terminologies.
A
A
So,
even
though
we
didn't
do
the
study
in
groton
per
se,
it
does
you
know
I
so
I
stand
by
it
because
it
certainly
it
certainly
is-
is
done
in
you
know,
I
think
three
or
four
that
are
in
the
reference
documents
by
the
way
you
could
point
to
it.
So
I
I
would
say
yes,
I
have
had
discussion
with
the
assessor
I've
made
changes
to
the
document
based
upon
my
discussions
with
her.
A
So
I
I
don't
know
what
I
would
change.
Oh,
and
I
think
I
I
think
I
made
one
change
tom.
I
think
in
the
edit
I
sent
you
I
said
long
term,
which
is
that
which
is
the
point
generally.
Oh
in
the
long
term.
That's
why
I
added
the
long
term
to
it,
because
an
agreement
with
mary
was,
you
can't
put
a
tax
on
it.
But
what
happens
when
the
properties
turn
over
people
pay
more
for
because
it
is
there
and
over
time,
which
is
what
she
agreed
with
yeah.
D
Okay,
moving
along
here,
page
17,
third
full
ended
page.
This
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
voted
on
was
the
word
natural
waters,
and
so
I
did
what.
As
far
as
from
the
text
team,
I
didn't
know,
we
really
hadn't
defined
natural
waters,
but
it
was
yeah.
I
don't
know
what
to.
C
Say
I
don't
remember
that
in
the
text,
do
you
remember
what
the
reference.
C
There
may
be
another
planning
vocabulary,
word
other
than
natural.
B
D
D
I
will
do
some
research
and
take
that
one
on
okay
text
text.
The
next
one
was
the.
D
D
That
was
in
the
in
the
version
of
the
of
the
open
space
plan,
and
so
I
just
rolled
that
over
and
then
did
my
best
to
add
to
it
from
a
historical
basis,
and
so
the
question
here
is-
and
it's
in
part
of
the
text
in
section
two
from
my
as
the
history
and
so
now
I'm
getting
caught
as
far
as
on
you
know
how
accurate
does
this
thing
have
to
be?
C
You
do
not
need
to
have
it
in
the
list
as
a
text
it
was
put
in
the
list
in
1890
at
that
point,
to
illustrate
that
we
had
open
spaces
or
we
were
acquiring
open
spaces
being
added
to
the
town,
and
we
were
given
examples
to
that.
So
at
that
time
frame
it
we,
we
felt
that
it
was
an
important
aspect
to
include
in
the
document,
but
in
this
time
frame,
because
a
lot
of
things
have
changed.
We've
added
a
great
deal
of
other
properties,
dosa
avalonia
of
all
added
properties.
D
Okay,
I
will
adjust
the
text,
then
I
appreciate
that
his
history
moving
along
here,
fixed
fixed.
The
next
thing
is
open
space.
Let's
say
it's
not
conferences.
This
is
the
same
question.
I
got
hit
up
again,
so
I'll
that'll
be
coming
out,
we'll
take
that
out
text
text
text
and
then
the
maps.
These
are
the
two
maps
from
1990
my
scanner.
D
You
know
you
had
the
193
and
then
you
know
and
then
post
six.
I
think
it's
from
69
and
then
from
19.
The
current
plan
from
1990
is:
do
we
want?
Does
somebody
have
a
bigger
scanner
that
I
can
put
this
stuff
on
and
put
they
put
those
in
there
or
do
I
not
need
to
have
those
those
two
historical
documents
in
there
is
the
question
I've
gotten
for
the
group.
C
Are
those
the
maps
of
the
original
open
space
proposals?
D
I
know
they're
in
the
in
the
gray
plan
in
the
middle
of
the
book
they
say
the
figure,
1969
conservation
map
and
1990
conservation
map,
but
they're
they're,
so
there's
kind
of
big
squares
they're,
like
oh.
D
Okay,
so
I
will
see
what,
if
bruce,
if
you
can't,
you
still
have
the
they're
in
the
in
the
book.
So
you
should
have.
I
don't
know
if
you
got
the
book
here,
but
if
you
can
find
somebody
that
that's
the
reason
they're
is
truncated
is
because
my
standard
isn't
big
enough.
I
did
my
best
to
kind
of
center
them
and
get
95
of
the
information,
but.
B
Yeah
I'm
looking
at
them
now
yeah
I
I
can
I'll
try
to
make
it
look
better.
Okay,.
D
On
the
page,
26,
the
reason
I'm
asking
I
hear
help
is
that
the
I
will
source
all
the
maps
and
dates
and
stuff.
That's
not
a
problem,
but
the
mystic
education
center
and
oral
school
there's
some
eyes
on
that,
but
I
don't
have
is-
and
this
kind
of
to
some
degree
works
with
the
data
team.
As
far
as
the
mystic
education
center
is
it's
dep
property
and
they're
supposed
to
be
and
they're
offering
a
portion.
You
know
like
half
of
them.
D
It's
like
70
acres,
35
to
the
to
the
to
be
leased
out
and
the
other
for
commercial
purposes
and
there's
a
proposal
right
now,
that's
going
through
our
development
and
then
the
other
35
acres.
But
I
don't
know
what
35
acres
there
are
and
what
and
how
that
split
is
and
who's
who's
working
with
dep
and
that's
come
we
and
that's
when
we
when
we
show
stuff
it
shows
that
whole
35
acres
is
the
whole
70
acres,
because
it's
all
dep
because
we
don't
know
which
part
is.
D
B
Yeah
sure
so
the
parcel
on
the
maps
is,
you
know,
like
you
just
said,
it's
all
shown
as
open
space,
the
portion
that's
going
to
be
held
by
dep
and
will
be
open
space.
That
line
has
already
been
determined
and
I
believe
at
some
point
during
this
I
sent
out
the
map
that
showed
exactly
where
that
line
was
on
that
property.
I
sent
it
to
everyone.
I
think
yeah
now,
you're.
D
B
C
Time,
I
bruce
did
send
us
out
maps
of
the
oral
school
property
or
mystic
education
center
property,
as
they
want
to
call
it
now
showing
where
the
dep
has
control
for
open
space
and
where
the
other
is
going
to
be
commercial.
C
So
because
we
we
looked
at
those
maps
michelle-
and
I
worked
on
a
little
bit
of
that
when
she
was
putting
together
the
property
list.
So
it
is
yes
and
they're
right
that
that's
what
we
ought
to
refer
to
is
only
that
portion
of
it.
D
Okay,
so
I'll
just
turn
that
this
one
over
to
the
data
team
and
we'll,
let
you
guys
sort
this
item
out
as
we
move
forward.
The
next
item,
page
27
of
the
comments
properties
are
not
I'll
open
space.
The
last
sentence,
first
detailed
information
database,
maintaining
the
question
where's
the
database
they're
asking
the
question.
I
think
the
database
is
what
we're
maintaining
just
like.
D
We
have
information
that
we're
maintaining
in
our
on
our
workbook
shelves
in
regard
to,
and
so
I
guess
this
is
really
for
the
data
team
working
with
bruce.
As
far
as
on
we
say
contact,
you
know
in
other
places
like
to
get
information
about
the
economic
model.
We
say
we
put
a
statement
in
there
about
contacting
the
commission
or
the
or
bruce
in
the
planning
department.
I
think
maybe
do
we
need
to
have
the
same
thing
here
in
regard
to
the
index,
the
referencing
and
who
to
get
updates
about
it
and
stuff.
D
B
If
that,
if
that
was
to
me
that
that's,
I
think,
that's
the
intention
on
that,
if
you're
going
to
have
a
database
at
least
have
it
accessible
first
have
to
distribute
when
asked.
A
A
So
yeah
I've
got
no
questions
back
by
the
way
on
the
model.
This
is
a.
I
keep
waiting.
Okay
anyway,.
D
Just
to
keep
moving
along
here,
fourth
paragraph,
the
next
one
was
is:
we've
already
talked
about.
That's
the
greenway
green
belt
interchangeability.
This
is
the
map.
C6
appears
to
be
a
potential
greenways,
that's
again
the
greenway
and
cigis,
and
I
you
know
we're
going
use
our
our
items
and
we'll
fix
all
that
with
with
the
maps
moving
along
again,
this
is
going
back
to
single
family
development.
D
E
D
A
single
family
stuff
again
I'll
more
single
family
tax
implementations.
I
out
larry's,
already
addressed
those
issues
and
so
we'll
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
any
further
discussion
here.
Moving
along,
it's
all
text
team.
D
And
then
this
is
the
overlay
question
again
that
that
they're
asking
for
this
is
your
other
one
from
the
data
team.
To
can
you
overlay
these
way?
Somehow-
and
I
don't
know
how
to
do
that.
So
this
is
for
the
data
team
moving
along
here
on
the
text
text
and
then
greenway
green
belt
system
again
comment.
So
we've
already
talked
about
that,
and
so
again
this
is
a
dual
thing
with
mystic
education
center
and
the
green
valve
expansion.
So
we'll
worry
about.
D
We've
already
talked
about
that
in
a
490
program.
We've
already
talked
about
that.
This
is
where
this
shows
again,
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
spending
more
time
with
that
and
then
moving
along
text
text
text,
text
text,
zoning
regulations,
application
neuroscience.
This
is
more
of
a
comment.
Why
does
the
recommendation
address
only
subdivision
regulations?
D
The
reason
we
had
made
a
recommendation
regarding
subdivision
regulations
was
all
is
because
we
that's
an
actionable
area
that
we
could
see.
So
I
don't
know
where
else
we
could
go
go
and
then
this
is
all
this
is
the
recommendation
relative
to
the
tree.
You
know
putting
put
putting
some
teeth
to
the
regulation
relative
to
offsets
in
regard
to,
if
you,
if
you,
if
your
subdivision
gets
cut,
do
you
you
have
to
take
down
trees.
D
D
I
guess
this
is
a
question
to
bruce
what
regulations
are
in
place
in
regard
to
that,
we
could
enforce
or
change
within
the
town
to
set
up
a
mechanism
for
replanting
of
of
trees
to
maintain
the
overall
tree
canopy
within
the
town
at
60
percent
or
61
percent,
that
we're
at
right
now
and
I
targeted
subdivisions,
because
I
knew
that
that
existed.
D
I
don't
know
about
other
I'm
not
aware
of
any
other
zoning
type
or
any
planning
regulations
that
we
that
come
into
play,
that
we
that
could
be
changed
to
have
a
require,
a
new
requirement
added
to
that
for
for
offsetting
the
trees
that
would
be
destroyed.
B
Sure
zoning
regulations
and
that
that
would
so
the
zoning
rate,
the
the
subdivision
regulations,
would
only
regulate
subdivision
developments,
and
you
know
we
haven't
seen
many
of
those
at
all.
I
mean
I
haven't
done
one
subdivision
since
I've
got
here
and
it's
been
two
years,
so
we
don't
get
many
of
those.
That's
why
I
was
thinking.
Zoning
regulations
would
be
a
much
better
place
to
regulate
this.
We
see
a
ton
of
zoning
applications,
whether
it
be
new
commercial
uses,
multi-family
uses
industrial
uses.
E
B
Able
to
capture
a
lot
more
under
the
zoning
regulations
and
the
redevelopment
sites,
it
can
be
newly
developed
sites,
but
we
were
just
thinking
you
could
put
something
in
there
to
recommend
the
zoning
regulation.
Amendment
too,
I'm
actually
working
on
it
right
now
and
to
try
to
find
a
way
to
you
know
if
trees
are
cut
down
on
the
property,
how
to
how
to
try
to
regain
that
and
require
an
equal
canopy.
I'm
looking
for
that,
I
think
it
could
be
beneficial
to
have
both.
D
Okay
and
I'll,
I
appreciate
that
recommendation
and
I
will
try
to
incorporate
it
may
end
up.
I
would
it
would
be
two
different
recommendations,
but
one
for
the
subdivisions
and
then
one
for
the
zoning
rigs
right.
If
we're
gonna
have
recommendations,
keep
them
split
and
not
put
a
lot,
love
them
together.
I
think
because
it'd
be.
B
D
C
Question
for
tom,
yes,
after
reading
the
the
comments
from
the
planning
department
which
bruce
you
can
pass
on,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
due
diligence.
You
guys
did,
even
though
there
are
some
tough,
tough
responses
here,
but
we
really
appreciate
it
all
the
fine
work
you
guys
did
anyway.
C
If
I
was
just
thinking
on
flanders,
road,
its
commercial
property,
it
it
has
not
been
developed
at
all.
C
It's
been
out
there
to
the
world
to
come,
develop
me
and,
as
you
drive
by
and
you
go
over
to
the
transfer
station,
you
know
you
go
it's
all
woods
and
you're
talking
about
subdivisions
of
that
when
they
put
the
houses
in,
you
want
to
replace
the
canopy
cover
or
the
forest
cover
somehow
to
stay
at
this
magic
number
of
60
coverage
on
these
commercial
properties
that,
when
you
look
at
the
zoning
map
that,
if
this,
if
economic
development
happens,
those
lands
that
right
now
that
are
forced,
are
going
to
be
totally
cleared
for,
what's
potentially
for
some
project,
a
commercial
project,
some
large
building-
and
I
I
believe
in
the
regulations
there
are
for
around
parking
areas-
maybe
the
entrance
way
to
come
in
in
landscape,
which
includes
trees,
but
it
will
never
be
the
same
sort
of
tree
cover
that
you
had
prior
to
that.
C
A
commercial
comes
in
and,
let's
say,
takes
a
hundred
acres
and
clear-cuts.
It
eb
comes
in
and
builds
all
kinds
of
buildings
in
there
to
support
their
submarine
work.
For
instance,.
D
Well,
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
looked
at
in
the
in
the
draft
that
I've
been
working
on
for
the
subdivision
regulations
was
some
type
of
offset
that,
if
you
don't
do
it,
you
don't
have
to
do
the
trees
on
your
property.
You
can
do
it
someplace
else
in
the
town.
Okay,
as
one.
C
Alternative
remember
seeing
that
comment
here
is
to
say
nobody
is
keeping
any
inventory
about
where
you
potentially
could
put
trees
in
if
you're
going
to
put
a
subdivision
in,
you
know
some
other
piece
of
property.
I
you
know,
I
don't
know
that
anyone
wants
to
even
make
the
time
to
make
a
list
of
that.
But
so
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
workable,
I
understand
what
you're
trying
to
say,
but
in
reality
I
don't
know
who's
going
to
keep
track
of
that
and
what
property
you're
going
to
pick
and
whoever
owns
that
property?
D
Well,
I
think,
that's
why
we're
only
taking
a
look
at
this
as
a
as
a
recommendation
action
item
to
take
a
look
at
what
can
we
do
to
maintain
the
canopy
as
best
we
can,
and
I
don't
we
don't-
need
to
sort
out
everything
here
today
or
but
you
know
it's
going
to
be
a
further
action
item
for
fy.
You
know
calendar
21,
22
or
whatever,
as
a
as
a
as
a
midterm
project.
D
D
And
if
you
break
up
a
good
point
in
regard
to
the
potential
development
of
a
of
an
inventory,
okay
and
then
the
second
item
was
essentially
the
same
thing
and
then
the
duties,
the
tree
advisory
board
should
be
detailed
in
narrative
and
I'll,
see
what
I
can
do
with
that.
But
just
I
just
want
to
point
out
this
one
to
everybody
relative
to
that
they're.
Looking
that
we
they
thought
we
should
be
putting
more
information
in
there.
So
in
the
trees
section.
A
A
I
couldn't
quite
find
it,
but
it's
in
that
same
section,
code
15-5.5-38,
so
it's
in
there,
it's
in
the
connecticut,
bylaws
someplace.
D
D
And
this
is,
I
thought
this
was
kind
of
interesting
recommendations
appear
to
conflict
each
other.
Will
the
commission
support
an
application
on
the
rth?
Is
that
target
areas
identified
by
the
majors
network?
That
was
never
the
intent.
The
intent
here
was
to
supporting
either
going
any
information,
and
so
that
was
the
intent
is
not
to
to
only
use
one
methodology
here
and
I'll
make
sure
that
the
text
gets
cleaned
up
to
reflect
that.
So
it's
very
so
it's
clearer.
D
And
then
moving
along
was
the
next.
The
this
may
conflict
with
the
pocd
that
direct
development
disturbance.
Conservative
advising
public
recognition
should
be
considered
as
part
of
any
former
school
redevelopment.
D
I
know
that
the
that
we
don't
that
the
the
schools
are
essentially
there's
public
recreation
facilities
on
all
the
school
properties
right
now
and
so
they're
being
monitored
in
the
parks
and
rec
master
plan,
and
so
this
is
where
I
was
kind
of
scratching
my
head,
maybe
bruce.
Do
you
have
any
insight
on
what
you
guys
were
concerned
about
here
on
this
one
recommendation
number
three
on
page
58.
B
D
D
But
we'll
sort
those
out
moving
along
the
next
item
here
was
conservation
has
not
been
assigned
responsibility,
shirt,
development,
long-term
stewardship
plans,
and
this
kind
of
goes
back
to
we've
kind
of
done
things
on
the
stewardship
plan
that
have
superseded
to
some
degree,
the
the
definitions
and
where
we're
going
here.
D
And
what
I'm
thinking
here
is
that
the
way
that
the
plan
was
written
initially
was
that
we
were
taking
responsibility
in
the
wording
that
we
used
for,
if
it's
not
on
the
master
list,
with
parks
and
rec,
it's
not
a
a
board
of
ed
property
or
it's
not.
A
public
works
thing
that
we
felt
that
we
had
some
ownership.
D
But
what
I
and
for
this
would
include
everything
that's
left
over
and-
and
I
think
that's
taking
on
too
much
responsibility
for
for
us
and
that
we
need
to
kind
of
back
off
and
and
what
I'm.
What
I'm
thinking
right
now
is
that
we
should
make
sure
that
that
the
concert
that
the
the
stewardship
plan
that
we've
developed
is
over
the
last
month
here
is
in
concert
with
the
current
version
of
the
plan,
and
then
it
de-scopes
ourselves
down
to.
D
Basically,
just
these
the
the
smaller
areas
that
we're
looking
at
in
the
future,
these
four
or
five
smaller
areas
that
aren't
are
properties
that
are
are
greater
than
10
acres
and
not
on
the
parks
and
rec
master
plan
which
basically
gets
you
something
like
the
joel
property
and
some
of
these
other
properties
that
there's
no
plans
for,
and
then
so.
D
If
everybody
agrees
that
the
stewardship
plans
that,
as
we've
been
working,
that
just
needs
to
be
reflected
back
into
the
into
the
into
section
4.2
as
far
as
on
those
terminologies
are
are
in
sync.
Is
anybody
any
objection
to
that.
A
It's
larry,
I
I'm
trying
to
think
it
through
I
mean
there's.
It
says
that
conservation
commission
may
be
the
steward
of
such
areas
with
the
town
council's
approval.
So
I
think,
if
you're
talking
about
specific
areas,
then
the
recommendation
would
be
is
we'd,
identify
those
areas
and
then,
as
part
of
our
recommendations,
volunteer
to
support
that.
With
the
commission's
approval,
I
mean
it
was
that
where
you're
going
tom.
D
A
F
C
C
But
it's
one
where
we
are
advisory
and
if
there
isn't
anything
any
plan
that
exists,
parks
and
rec
or
some
other
entity
within
the
town
on
that
particular
property,
we
could
come.
We
would
come
in
and
make
a
suggestion
and
then
once
we
suggested
it,
whoever
is
responsible
for
overseeing
that
particular
piece
of
property.
So
we're
advisory
concept
and
not
we're
not
looking.
I
don't
think
to
take
on
any
sort
of.
C
D
D
D
This
is
this
whole
pre-post
tax
assessment,
so
I
won't
go
into
that
that
land
protection,
this
kind
of,
is
what
we
were
talking
about
just
pre
previously
pro
and
recreational
easements.
So
I
will
make
sure
that
these
are
comments
also
with
page
4064.
D
And
then,
and
then
they
asked
about
whether
the
open
space
organism's
been
reviewed
by
parks
and
rec,
and
then
we
are
coordinating
that.
So
there
was
just
a
comment
there
and,
and
then
this
section
7.1
this
list
differs
from
the
implementation
list
of
the
plcd,
both
timing,
responsibility
sections
have
been
changed,
yeah
we
added
them,
and
the
plan
should
not
state
that
it's
the
same
as
a
pcod's
list.
D
Well
I
I
took
the
action
items
out
of
the
pocd
brought
them
over
to
this
list
and
it
wasn't
the
intent
to
say
that
they're
the
same
that
they're
identical
they,
their
actions
are
from
the
pocv
that
we're
tracking
the
ones
that
are
our
responsibilities
for
duplication.
D
B
When
we
went
over
this,
I
remember
jeb
saying
that
it's
it's
not
the
same
list
as
the
pocd,
and
maybe
you
know
to
go
off
what
you
said.
Maybe
it's
just
a
little
clarification
or
clarification,
take
it
from
the
poc
and
it's
not
exactly
the
same
or
just
clarification
where
it
came
from.
I
think
it
just
implies
that
it's
straight
from
the
plct
copy
paste.
D
D
And
then
this
is
parts
and
record
conservation
openings.
Well
this.
I
think
this
is
just
an
addition.
Just
so
everybody
understands
that
their
responsibility
should
be
parks
and
recs,
or
calls
lead
agencies
for
this
action,
so
we'll
we'll
correct
those
and
likewise
and
and
likewise
for
planning
and
zoning
commissions,
we'll
correct
all
these.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
these
two
on
the
action
items,
so
I'm
not
going
to
get
too
much
into
this,
and
then
we
talked
about
this
one
already
and
we
talked
to
you
calling
and
zoning.
C
D
Left
these
as
all
just
to
let
people
know
that
that
they
are,
they
took
exception
with
some
of
the
of
the
comments
here,
because
these
were
action
items
I
didn't.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
was
before
we
were.
We
were
all
aware
of
those.
D
Clerks
office
and
then
now
this
is
the
the
the
other
data
or
the
area
for
data
here,
there's
75
acres
with
ten
three
quarters
of
the
way
down
colonoscopy
school,
not
oak,
run
open
space
and
then
white
carry
farming
care.
Open
space
parcels
are
noted
to
be
commercial.
These
are
both
residential
subdivisions,
so
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
there
but
I'll?
Let
the
data
team
worry
about
those
too.
D
D
The
reason
we
had
put
coast
in
the
recommendations
here
in
regard
to
coastline
is
we
didn't
want
to
be
buying
something
that's
going
to
flood
with
it
immediately.
We
wanted
to
be
more
proactive
in
buying
things.
That
would
be
ready.
That
would
be
a
a
new
coast
where
the
new
coastline
would
be
rather
than
buying.
You
know,
seabed
was
the
intent
and
so
I'll
go
back
as
if
everybody
agrees
that
that's
what
our
intent
still
is
not
to
be
buying
future
seabed
to
make
sure
that
the
wording
is
here
to
make
sure
that.
A
Yeah,
that
was
that
was
the
intent
right
is
to
protect
that
which
will
become
a
future
flood
flood
plain
area
yeah.
C
Well,
we
were
proposing
that
right,
new
coastline
and
looking
inland
that
once
it
starts
flooding
yeah
right.
What
the
next
shoreline
is
and
you're
absolutely
right
that
we're
not
looking
to
purchase
flood
prone
areas,
which,
let's
say
I'll,
say
groton
longpoint
we're
not
supposing
that
we
buy
their
homes
up.
D
Okay-
and
I
I
appreciate
these
words,
because
these
I'll
try
to
get
these
more
because
I
can
see
where
she's
coming
from,
because
I
had
I
struggled
with
these
words
originally,
and
I
will
try
to
get
these
fixed
up
better
as
the
text
team,
and
I
appreciate
the
insight,
I've
got
the
notes
there
moving
on
to
appendix
ae,
they
wanted
addresses
I've
taken
I've
already
working
on
all
those.
The
reason
I
left
there's
a
number
of
conservation
is
not
listed
here.
D
This
was
just
an
action
item
that
was
the
appendix
v
was
our
best
guess.
At
this
time
I've
got.
I
do
have
all
the
addresses
for
the
stuff
that
I've
verified,
but
I'll
just
leave
it
that
this
is
a
future.
That
I'll
put
a
note
in
here
that
there's
this
is
a
limited
knowledge
and
that
we
that
we
have.
We
do
have
an
action
item
to
expand
this
with
additional
record
searches
in
the
future.
D
Yeah,
a
partial
list
right
I'll
I'll,
explain
that
in
in
the
text.
C
When
michelle
was
putting
her
list
together,
we
were
scratching
her
head.
So
this
goes
to
bruce
that
the
town,
the
planning
department
statement
that
there
are
a
number
of
conservation
easements
not
listed
here.
C
We
didn't
know
where
that
list
was,
and
the
list
that
michelle,
I
understand,
got
from
the
town
of
open
space
properties
did
not
include
a
list
of
easements.
C
So
bruce
you
know
we'd
be
more
than
happy
to
know
where
they
are
and
if
they
exist,
because
they
weren't
michelle
got
our
list
from
what
jenna
is
that
yeah.
B
Okay,
I'll,
I
will
try
to
find
it
if
it
exists
to
know
to
know
where
it
is.
Hopefully
it's
not
just
to
historical
knowledge
of
you
know
where
they
are
and
that
there's
more
of
them
and
it's
it's
documented
I'll.
I
I'll
look
into
it.
Try
to
get
give
you
that.
D
Okay
and
then
moving
along
here,
the
next
one
was
the
does
this.
D
This
kind
of
goes
back
to
the
the
overlays
that
you,
if
you've
got,
how
do
you
put
everything
together
and
I
think
we
haven't
really?
We've
talked
about
our
seven
priorities.
We've
we've
talked
about
individual
things.
D
What
you're
supporting
trees,
reporting,
sea
level
rise,
recording
habitats-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
was
what
there's
no
master
list,
where
I
integrate
everything
together
on
with
all
these
things,
just
to
come
up
with
hey.
This
is
the
highest
priority.
We,
the
way
we
focus
the
plan.
Development
was
working
down
our
priority
list.
D
It
would
you
know,
and
so
that's
I'm
kind
of
a
little
bit
lost
and
maybe
bruce
do
you
can
do
you
have
any
background?
As
far
as
on
what
this
question
was
or
the
comment.
G
F
D
D
D
D
Yeah,
okay
and
this
kind
of
goes
with
the
same
thing.
We
already
talked
about
the
the
education
center,
but
that
completes
this
stuff
and
then
there
was
one
other
one
was
the
comments
from
the.
D
Oh
wait
again,
I'm
bringing
the
wrong
thing
up
here.
Let's
see,
okay,
let
me
get
these
out
to
a
single
page
and
now
she
had
from
she's
there.
We
got
two
sets
of
comments
from
the
planning
and
zoning
susan,
a
member,
and
mr
pritchard
is
the
as
the
chair.
D
She
talked
a
lot
about
her
comments
relative
to
the
executive,
summary
and
stuff.
As
she
got
to
page
six,
then
a
list
of
seven
priorities,
files
on
the
same
page
would
recommend
the
constitution
put
each
of
these
priorities
into
the
same
action
format
as
the
first
declaring
to
find
what
the
conservation
commission
is
proposing.
D
D
But
I
tend
to
agree
with
you,
but
this
was
a
comment,
so
I
at
this
point
I'll
take
a
second
look
at
it,
but
that's
about
it.
I
don't
really
see
changing
anything
there.
The
text
was
going
to
take
care
of
these
other
comments
on
page
15,
17
21,
on
on
the
section.
C
Back
up
for
a
second
on
the
farm
south,
where,
where
was
this,
she
formed
south
come
in.
I.
A
C
But
I
don't
think
this
is
a
sort
of
a
long-term
document,
and
what
you're
talking
about
is
something
that's,
hopefully
very
short
term.
You
know,
maybe
in
the
next
few
months
or
possibly
a
year,
but
our
emphasis
on
the
sheep
prom,
I
think,
is
something
within
the
commission,
but
not
necessarily
needs
to
go
to
the
document,
because
this
is
a
long-range
document
that
covers
a
lot
of
bases
and
those
are
only
two
properties
out
of
a
whole
list
of
open
space
properties
that
michelle
has
been
generating
lists.
For
so
my
feeling
is.
A
A
B
D
Okay,
well,
we'll
fix
the
words
to
to
reflect
the
current
status
and
the
actions
that
the
commission
is
taking
moving
along
on
sections.
She
just
said
the
text
team
is.
We
took
no
action
on
this
one
on
the
open
floor,
this
is
kind
of
she's
brought
talking
about
what
should
show
up
in
your
in
our
workbook
for
stewardship
items.
D
You
know,
should
we
give
a
large
topic
to
the
base
of
management
and
I
don't
think
it
belongs
in
the
open
space
conservation
plan.
It
belongs
in
our
stewardship
section
and
so
that's
come.
I'm
not
recommending
any
changes
here.
Actually,
that's
what.
D
And
then
she
goes
into
this
next
whole
section
in
regard
this
kind
of
spreads
out
the
constitution's
medical,
including
section
on
the
on
the
social
equality
aspects,
and
I
think
we've
already
talked
about
this-
proposed
action
for
each
proposed
action,
recognition
time
frame,
completion
for
those
27
recognition,
because
I
was
looking
upstairs.
D
This
is
where
I
kind
of
lose
it
again.
You
know:
there's
no
she's,
basically
saying
that
there's
been
no
consultation
with
and
changes
zoning
regulations
to
help
facilitate
these
changes.
Well,
we're
drafting
up
things.
I
think
we're
out
of
she's
getting
a
little
ahead
of
ourselves
and
taking
us
to
task
for
saying
that
we're
not
talking
to
the
town,
staff
and
stuff,
but
I
I
don't
know
what
she
wants
us
to
do
here
in
regard
to
changing
anything.
I
think,
there's
again
all
just
comments.
C
Well,
I
think
some
of
the
action
items
he's
looking
for
time
frames
and
we
haven't
gotten
there.
D
I
agree
with
you
guys:
can
we
just
put
everything
into
short
term
midterm
and
long
term
with
and
then
put
a
range
of
up
to
10
years,
and
so
I
I
think
she
was
taking
umbrage
to
some
degree
that
this
is
the
first
time
she's
seen
some
of
this
stuff
and
she's,
seeing
it
from
a
planning
and
zoning
perspective.
Is
that
that
there's
potential
we
really
never
had
recommended
any
zoning
regulation
changes
in
the
draft
so
tristan.
E
A
Addressed,
I
think
it's
covered
in
the
action
items
which
are
future
stuff,
but
we
don't
have
all
the
answers
here,
but
I
thought
we
did
address
the
fact
that
we
would
work
with
the
zoning
commission.
I
can't
remember
the
action,
but
certainly
third
section
seven
to
go.
Do
that
yeah,
so
I
didn't
just
have
to
tell
them
that.
That's
all.
D
A
D
Okay,
so
now
we
get
down
to
to
page
four,
we
fix
page
41,
page
46.
The
conservation
commission
expand
the
effect
of
sea
level
lying
reservoir
assets.
They
will
know
gu's
current
plans
mitigate
sea
level
rise
and
what
impact
it
might
have
on
the
town.
D
The
here's
what's
going
on
with
this
whole
haley
brook
and
stuff.
When
I
went
back
and
looked
at
this,
is
that
the
because
there
was
a
a
comment
in
the
from
the
planning
department?
Also
that
went
to
the
text
team
in
regard
to.
Why
are
you
using
an
old
document
that
the
the
water
we
we
reference
and
have
pictures
in
there?
In
regard
to
the
the
watershed
watershed?
D
Expansion
that
grant
utility
is
using
because
that
they've
actually
put
out
a
plan
that
says
this
is
where
I
want
to
be
getting
open
space,
and
so
I
referenced
that,
and
that
document
is
from
2008
sure
it's
12
years
old
there
and
what's
happened.
There
is
that
the
area
that
that
document
covers
all
the
time
that
originally
was
just
the
towns
of
montville,
london,
waterford,
groton,
north
and
south,
and
north
estonian,
north
stillington
and
preston,
and
then
and
also
norwich,
and
now
it's
expanded
that
to
the
whole
eastern.
D
D
They
haven't
updated
any
kind
of
planning
documents,
so
there's
nothing
there,
and
so
I
don't
have
any
current
information
in
regard
to
what
grant
utilities
is
doing
relative
to
sea
level
rise
and
what's
happening
with
their
things,
and
I
think
I
I'm
still
using
the
stuff
that
grant
utilities,
because
it's
still
posted
on
their
website
as
their
most
active
information
and
so
that's
kind
of
hesitant
to
change
to
change.
Any
of
that
is
that
that's
the
best
information
that
we
have
and
where
grant
utilities
wants
to
expand
and
it's
in
groton.
D
So
you
know
sure
this
is
all
nice
to
know
information,
but
I
don't
have
any
better
information
at
this
time
and
haven't
really
pursued
trying
to
drill
down
in
more
information,
because
this
gets
into
it's
really
more.
Outside
of
that,
our
scope
is
a
conservation
commission.
D
G
C
B
D
Okay,
so
I'm
just
gonna,
I
think
there's
no
answer
for
here.
These
are
just
comments
to
her
for
consideration,
rather
than
specific
things
here
and
then,
as
far
as
I
would
suggest
the
time
council,
the
conservation
conference,
the
town
staff
regarding
the
status
update,
is
true
list
and
we
already
have
an
internal
action
item
with
the
tree
warden.
We
remember
we
hadn't
come
to
our
meeting
back
a
few
months
ago
and
he
was
going
to
work
with
a
summer.
D
And
then
the
all
thing
is
in
this
rogue
mountain
biker
thing.
She
really
goes
into
a
whole
thing
in
here
fragmentation
of
critical
habitats.
I
don't
know
what
to
do
again.
This
is
another.
You
know.
D
D
Okay
and
then-
and
then
this
whole
thing
is
stewardship
here
as
far
as
what's
the
definition
of
stewardship,
and
so
but
I
think
this
is
all
again.
This
would
be
and
then
the
next
one
is
again
another
stewardship
management,
labor,
intensive
and
stuff.
So
I
I
don't
think
would
take
any
action
in
here
and
then
she
she
picked
up
an
appendix
f
in
the
relative
to
updating
prioritization.
So
we've
already
talked
about
that.
D
So
those
are
the
only
things
that
I've
looked
at
as
far
as
a
text
committee
and
so
I'll
stop
sharing
here.
C
Two
documents,
if
you
would
take
your
list
and
just
back
up
for
a
second
there,
was
one
reference
that
she
said
about
when
we
earmarked
certain
properties
for
certain
purposes.
She
gave
another
reference
that
we
could
look
at
someone
else's
maps
for
that.
D
Oh
this
one
here
I
I
don't
know
anything
about
it.
I
I
have
already
referenced
the
econ.
The
yukon
eco
mappers
is
a
reference
already
in
our
document
that
she
didn't
pick
up.
It's
farther
it's
back
in
section
four
and
this
the
advanced
mapper
here
of
connecticut.
D
I
have
already
referenced
this
farther
on
it's
not
in
figure
3-5,
the
the
stuff
that
she
has
here,
the
d,
the
dep
database.
It's
I
did
make
an.
D
I
did
make
a
note
in
there
that
it's
not
it
fully
inclusive,
okay,
but
neither
is
the
critical
habitat
for
the
yukon
thing
either
so
and
that
that's
why
I
I
I
put
these
notes
in
here,
and
it
says
that
you
know
that
we
are
using
the
eco,
the
yukon
eco,
to
see
additional
habitats
and
that
in
the
in
the
nature's
network,
is
it
takes
into
the
yukon
we
use
the
in
the
in
the
text.
D
In
page,
55-56
takes
a
look
at
the
the
nature's
network,
which
is
a
subset,
which
is
also
has
everything
the
yukon
eco
does
have
so,
and
then
we
reference
the
econ
of
the
yukon
eco
mapper.
What's
happening
here
is
you're
getting
multiple
databases
out
there
of
critical
habitat,
whether
you're
going
with
the
state
of
connecticut
the
yukon,
the
harvard
the
or
the
nature
conservancy.
So
we've
got
these
multiple
databases
and
and.
G
This
is
michelle.
I
have
a
question
and
comment
one.
So
obviously
I
missed
the
first
part
of
the
discussion,
but
I
don't
think
it's
critical
for
my
question
and
comment
so
I
would
like
to.
I
would
like
to
to
make
me
and
tom
us
kind
of
a
subcommittee
of
the
of
the
heads
of
the
two
subcommittees
and
and
tom.
I
need
to
work
with
you
and
and
if
I
could
get
the
marked
up
versions
of
those
documents,
so
I
can
see
what
you've
already
commented
on
about
what
the
data
people
need
to
do.
G
But
I
need
to
work
with
you
to
make
sure
that
I
have
that
list
updated
and
also
the
maps
and
just
just
for
information
right
now,
because
the
students
are
back
and
and
the
covet
thing
is
it's
almost
impossible
for
me
to
get
on
on
site
to
do
the
mapping.
G
But
I
I
at
one
point
had
access
to
theoretically
be
able
to
go
remotely
to
get
into
the
gis
lab
I
never
followed
through,
because
I
was
able
to
go
on
site.
So
I
need
to
do
that.
So
I
can
fix
the
map
but
tom.
I
think
if
you
and
I
work
together,
we
can
we
can
make
sure
that
those
two
things
are
have
all
the
details
right
and
not
try
to
cover
the
details
in
a
meeting
like
this
and
and
the
data
set
mean
I
need
your
input,
but
I
can
fix
the
stuff.
D
And
we
agree
with
you:
we
had
talked
about
this
early
on
before
you
got
here.
The
test
was
for
me
to
send
it
to
brain
and
he'd,
get
it
to
you,
but
I
will
send
it
to
you
directly
now
that
I've
got
you.
D
It
got
frozen
when
I
went
to
this
the
screen
share,
and
so
I
will
let
me
work
on
that.
Well,.
A
All
right
so,
from
a
timeline
point
of
view,
the
we
were
going
to
get.
We
did
get
input
in
by
the
end
of
september.
We've
just
reviewed,
you
know
the
you
know.
Almost
all
of
the
comments
we've
got
some
work
to
do.
My
suggestion
would
be
to
get
some.
You
know
time
estimate
about
when
the
you
know
the
all
the
stuff
we
just
went
over
could
be
updated,
but
I
also
think
it
would
be
worthwhile
to
make
an
offer
to
the
planning
and
the
zoning.
A
The
zoning
commission
and
the
planning
staff
to
make
an
offer
to
say
is:
if
you're
willing,
we
could.
You
know,
go
over
any
questions.
You
may
have
to
explain
it,
but
we
do
need
to
shut
it
down
at
some
point.
So,
first
of
all,
I
need
the
two
pieces
of
that.
Do
you
agree
I'll?
Do
the
second
one?
First,
do
you
agree?
We
should
extend
an
offer
to
those
two
organizations
who
spend
a
little
time
if
they
want
to
go
over
some
of
their
comments.
E
A
Well,
we
got
the
comments,
but
some
of
the
comments,
a
lot
of
the
comments
we've
taken
care
of
there
are
some
things
just
to
be
able
to
explain
because
they
kind
of
miss
the
point
of
what
we're
doing
on
some
of
the
items
right-
and
you
know
just
politically,
as
I
thought
it
might
be-
a
good
idea
just
to
just
say
we
got
your
comments.
We've
made
a
lot
of
changes,
you
know,
get
the
changes
to
them
ahead
of
time
and
say
we'll
be
happy
to
review.
You
know
anything.
A
You
know
that
at
your
request
I
mean
we're
saying
this
is
our
final
version.
I'm
not
saying
we
wait.
I'm
just
saying
make
an
offer
to
be
able
to
explain
what
our
position
was.
If
we
didn't
just
wrote,
you
know
make
one
of
their
recommendations
and
just
made
a
change
so
figure
out.
I
didn't
think
it
would
hurt.
C
Get
back
to
them,
you
know
with
some
of
their
comments,
you
know
and
say
this
is
we've
received
your
comment,
we've
reviewed
it,
and
this
is
this-
is
what
we
came
out
with.
I
think
that
would
be
good.
A
Right
other
comments
on
that
yep.
I
agree
one
two
three!
Well
all
right,
that's
the
majority
anyway!
So
all
right
so
subsequent
to
getting
a
final
draft
and
tom,
are
you
keeping
a
change
document.
D
Yes,
I
have
a
new
document,
that's
dated
today
that
has
all
the
text
themed
comments
and
then
I
will
incorporate
all
the
text
comments
from
tonight's
discussion.
I
will
update
that
over
the
next
two
days
here
and
have
that
available
for
distribution
here,
probably
by
thursday.
A
D
Like
I
said,
the
I'll
have
my
cut
on
all
these
comments
from
today's
meeting,
probably
by
thursday,
or
definitely
by
friday,
for
the
by
the
end
of
this
week.
If,
if
I
just
don't
know
if
we
need
to
have
a
special
meeting,
you
know
we
could
send
this
ask
bruce
to
send
this
comments
out,
and
I
can
take
any
comments.
You
know
individually
for
to
develop
this
and
then
for
and
then
work
to
have
a
final
thing.
D
Now
my
only
I'm
gonna
be
leaving
the
country
on
the
on
the
23rd
is
my
last
day
locally
here
and
I'll
be
gone
through
through
the
next
meeting,
and
hopefully-
and
I
don't
know
my
attendance
at
the
next
meeting-
whether
it's
gonna
be
kind
of
like
michelle-
is
here,
I
may
or
may
not
make
it
in
at
the
very
beginning,
because
I'm
changing
hotels
and
stuff
on
that
on
that
monday.
So
I'll
have
to
kind
of
wait
and
see
and
not
promise,
availability
but
haven't.
D
I
definitely
could
have
a
document
ready
and
in
the
package
as
a
with
has
with
which
would
have
gone
out.
The
text
team
would
have
reviewed
it
and
I'd
you
know
be
able
to,
if
bruce
can
send
it
out
to
everybody
to
provide
individual
comments
back
for
my
correction
and
and
getting
those
all
back
by
the
23rd
and
that's
pretty
much
my
lockdown
date,
I'm
going
to
try
to
have
everything
done
by.
G
So
so
this
is
michelle.
If
I
could
have
whatever
you're
doing
by
the
end
of
the
week,
then
I
can
spend
the
weekend
trying
to
work
through
the
pieces
that
are
missing.
That
are
my
responsibility
and
then-
and
so
I
could
work
on
that
next
weekend,
because
I'm
in
quarantine
anyway
so
and
then
so
the
following
weeks
a
week
from
now,
I'm
not
sure
about
the
map
I'll
try
to
do
that.
G
But
I
can
certainly
make
sure
that
the
the
that
our
inventory
is
up
to
date
and
based
on
on
those
the
comments
that
I,
the
ones
that
I
saw
but
but
I
can
make
sure
that
it's
consistent
with.
What's
in
the
document,
once
tom
makes
his.
A
Updates
all
right
so
as
a
game
plan,
the
the
updates
from
tom.
I
think
we
do
this
in
two
waves,
then
the
updates
from
michelle
with
a
target
that
says
that
our
11-2
I
mean
we
get
that
out
there
and
do
our
own
individual
feedback
targeting
11-2
to
have
a
vote.
That
says
this
is
our
final
version
of
it.
Does
that?
Does
that
sound
right
to
you
guys.
G
A
G
A
And
then
subsequent
to
11-2
make
an
offer
to
the
planning
staff
and
the
zoning
staff
that
says:
hey.
Here's,
the
you
know:
here's
we've
finalized
our
document,
we've
taken
all
your
stuff
into
an
account
we'd,
be
happy
to
meet
with
you
to
explain
what
we
did
and
any
questions
you
may
have,
which
would
take
place
after
november,
2nd
right,
which
may
or
may
not
happen
even
is
here
I
mean
so
yes,
kristen.
A
A
D
I
I
would
say
that's
true
for
the
for,
for
the
for
the
planning
department-
I
I
I
we're
basically
buying,
I
would
say
90
of
everything
that
that
that's
made
a
recommendation
on
it,
we're
taking
it's
a
little
different
story
with
the
with
with
the
planning
and
zoning
commission.
D
I
didn't
go
through
all
the
other
comments
from
you
know
that
from
mr
pritchard
and
stuff
we
didn't
have
time
here
tonight
to
go
through
all
those,
and
I
just
don't
know
how
you
want
to
handle
some
of
the
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
it
it's
it's
almost.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
have
a
joint
meeting
with
them
or.
A
D
What
I'm
saying,
maybe
it
would
be
better
for
you
to
meet
with
him
private?
You
know
one-on-one
or
something
rather
than
tying
our
hands.
You
know
with
meetings
and
additional
draft
runs
and
stuff.
It
might
be.
You
know,
as
far
as-
and
I
think
you
meeting
also
with
the
with
the
housing
authority
would
be
the
other
one,
because
you're.
G
So
I
was
just
kind
of
a
compromise
I
kind
of
agree
with
with
letting
tom
do
his
thing,
but
then
offering
to
me
with
planning
and
zoning
just
in
case
they
say
something
that
makes
us
want
to
tweak
something
I
mean,
even
though
we
already
know
the
stuff
that
we're
not
going
to
incorporate
at
least
giving
the
possibility
of
tweaking
before
we
vote
on
the
file.
Let
me
say
before
going
on
the
final
in
case:
there's
minor
minor
things
we
want.
We
want
to
adjust.
A
A
G
A
Must
be,
I
think,
we've
we've
kind
of
did
a
lot
of
good
stuff
tonight.
I
I
know
that
we
didn't
get
through
the
agenda,
so
I
would
kind
of-
and
I
know
we
had
the
stewardship
package
there
teed
up,
but
I
would
suggest
that
we
defer
to
our
next
meeting
and
focus
on
getting
the
final
draft
and
the
reviews
out
and
I'm
going
to
asterisk
that
so,
unless
you
guys
want
to
continue,
I
would
and
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.
C
Make
a
last-minute
course-
and
that
is
with
all
the
stuff
that
got
sent
to
us
in
the
packet
today
today
and
it
arrives
friday
afternoon
two
days
before
the
meeting
and
we
all
have
lives
over
the
weekend.
It's
really
tough
to
read
all
that
material.
B
A
Problem
this
last
time,
this
last
time
we
kind
of
we
had
the
problem
of
getting
the
comments
in
from
the
planning
staff
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
but
and
to
get
it
all
pdf
so
that
it
was
a
little.
It
was
a
little
strange.
I
mean
we
talked
about
getting
it
out
earlier,
like
tuesday
or
wednesday.
You
know
not
necessarily
thursday
or
friday.
A
A
D
No,
I
we
did
we
kind
of
screwed
ourselves
by
by
putting
the
deadline
so
late
and
for
the
for
the
staff,
people
and
our
we
didn't
really
have
a
lot
of
time
here
early
in
the
month
here
also,
but
the
other
thing
you
could
do
like
what
I
did
is
I
sent
my
wife
to
boston
and
then
have
the
whole
weekend
to
myself.
G
B
Can
I
ask
about
the
the
emails?
Is
everyone
getting
the
emails
and
the
zoom
meeting
information
early
enough
is,
that
is
that
working
out
I
tried
to
get
it
out
earlier.
I'm
gonna
try
to
keep
doing
that
so
everyone,
okay
with
that
yep.
E
B
A
All
right,
if
there's
no
discussion
and
then
we
will
adjourn
the
meeting
without
objection
bruce,
I
would
like
to
have
you
forward
our
thanks
for
the
detailed
input
from
the
planning
department.
A
So
that's
yours,
so
so
we'll
do
that
on
and
we'll
get
the
message
out
to
the
other
folks
as
well.
So
thank
thank
you
and
deb
for
the
for
the
efforts.
I
don't
know
who
else
worked
on
it,
but
we
appreciate
it
all
right
with
that.
We've
got
a
game
plan
between
now
and
november,
2nd
the
day
before
election
day,
make
sure
you
guys
go
out
and
vote
on
that
next
day.