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From YouTube: Data Center Host Fee Agreement Presentation - 2/24/22
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Data Center Host Fee Agreement Presentation - Thursday, February 24 At 5:30 P.M. At The Thrive 55+ (Senior Center).
The Town of Groton is considering entering into a Host Municipality Fee Agreement with NE Edge LLC to allow qualified data centers to potentially locate between Flanders Road and Hazelnut Hill Roads south of I-95.
The Groton Conservation Commission and the Groton Economic Development Commission will be hosting a presentation by Tom Quinn from NE Edge on the proposal on Thursday, February 24 at 5:30 p.m. at Thrive 55+ (Senior Center) at 102 Newtown Road.
For More Information: https://www.groton-ct.gov/alert_detail.php
A
My
name
is
bill
groves,
I'm
the
chairman
of
the
economic
development
commission
and
with
me
is
larry
dunn.
He
can
introduce
himself
chairman
of
the
conservation
commission.
We
have
been
asked
and
we
do
try
to
to
partner
together
when
it
comes
to
issues
that
come
before
the
town
that
have
interest
on
both
the
conservation
side
and
the
economic
development
side.
So
we're
asked
to
host
this
forum
to
bring
forward
the
data
center.
That's
been
proposed
at
this
point,
an
agreement
that
the
town
council
is
looking
into.
A
The
purpose
really
is
to
get
information
out,
so
we
have
tom
quinn
from
new
england
edge
that
will
be
giving
the
presentation
just
to
show
you
what
the
the
proposal
is
and
then
we
will
entertain
questions
and
with
that
being
said,
really
this
forum
is
for
questions.
So
I
know
people
probably
have
strong
opinions
one
way
or
another,
and
I
respect
all
of
those,
but
we
really
try
to
keep
this
where
everyone
has
the
opportunity
to
ask
the
questions
that
they
have.
A
So
when
we
do
go
to
the
questions,
we're
gonna
alternate
between
zoom
as
they
come
up
and
the
people
in
the
audience
here
and
to
limit
it.
You
know
you
can
you
can
do
your
preface
of
what
your
concerns
are
but
try
to
keep
it
to
two
to
three
minutes
and
have
a
question
so
we'd
like
that
to
be
answered
because
that'll
get
out
to
the
community.
So
with
that
larry
you
have
to
add
anything
or.
B
B
It
is
for
businesses
to
come
here,
and
I
will
say
that
you
know
in
regards
to
this
particular
topic
that
a
data
center
facility
can
be
one
of
the
most
conservation
friendly
types
of
development
you
can
have
if
it's
done,
you
know
with
the
latest
and
greatest
of
the
technology
and
the
consideration
of
all
the
all
the
environmental
aspects
of
it.
So
with
that,
I
think
we
have
your
introduction
about
15
minutes
or
so
for.
C
C
I
think
it's
probably
there's
been
a
lot
around
in
the
press
and
this
this
data
deal
has
attracted
an
awful
lot
of
of
of
information
and
it's
attracted
an
awful
lot
of
controversy
and
it's
attracted
at
all
awful
lot
of
players
that
want
to
get
involved
and,
and
everyone
thinks
it's
their
deal
and
they
have
to
all
pull
together.
So
there's
been
some
things
in
the
press.
I
want
to
just
give
you
some
background
on
me.
C
The
town
of
gratton's
done
a
full
corey
check
on
me,
credit
check
and
all
that,
and
that's
all
squared
away.
At
this
point
I
grew
up
in
in
my
school
years
in
east
lime,
connecticut
right
down
the
street,
and
I
know
the
area
very
well.
I
biked
all
through
the
area
and
so
forth
and
spent
a
lot
of
time
at
mystic
and
chris,
and
I
found
each
other
in
later
life.
This
wasn't
something
that
came
up
early.
C
The
the
overall
concept
for
this
was,
I
came
to
connecticut,
was
heading
back
to
my
roots
from
cape
cod,
where
I
did
a
lot
of
development,
and
I
was
looking
at
doing
some
condo
projects.
I
built
a
lot
of
condos
on
the
cape
and
other
developments
and
worked
on
hotels
and
commercial
buildings
and
so
forth.
As
things
developed,
I
was
enticed
to
come
down
to
look
at
a
project
during
the
course
of
that
enticement.
C
C
I
was
only
in
charge
of
one
single
thing
that
was
going
to
the
town
and
get
boxes
on
paper
approved.
That
was
my
job.
That's
what
I
was
paid
to
do
as
a
consultant.
I
never
had
any
shares.
I
didn't
have
an
nda.
I
didn't
have
a
contract.
It
was
something
that
they
asked
me
to
do
so
I
went
and
did
that
you'll
read
an
article
in
montville
about
some
things
that
were
approved.
I
was
never
in
charge
of
anything
to
do
with
a
gas
plant,
and
this
was
premised
unbeknownst
to
me.
At
the
beginning.
C
I
found
out
later
that
a
gas
plant
was
the
premise
of
this
whole
thing.
Now.
You'll
see
that
with
the
killingly
gas
plant,
for
example,
it's
very
hard
to
get
these
gas
plants
approved
and
when
citing
council
could
be
many
many
years
to
get
this
done,
I
knew
that
didn't
fit
the
confines
of
what
the
data
center
operators
were.
Looking
for
and
I'll
get
into
that
a
minute,
so
they
the
partners,
ended
up
suing
each
other.
I
wasn't
a
partner,
I
had
nothing
to
do
with
any
of
it
they
sued
each
other.
C
I
did
my
job,
I
got
my
permits.
I
was
successful.
I
realized
at
that
point
that
this
is
going
to
have
to
go
through
the
state.
32
states
had
data
center
legislation.
Just
a
few
years
ago,
indiana
came
up
with
a
750
30-year
100
750
million
30-year
deal,
and
the
next
state
that
was
coming
into
line
was
illinois
and
illinois
has
a
little
bit
of
a
different
deal.
C
C
Here
in
new
england,
there
are
no
hyperscale
data,
centers
whatsoever,
which
is
going
to
hurt
us.
If
you
read
in
deep
there
there's
an
article-
and
I
don't
want
to
digress,
but
it's
very
important
that
just
came
out
today
just
about
an
hour
ago
from
dr
lynn,
zhong,
who's,
yale
computer
science.
You
can
look
him
up
and
you
can
also
go
to
the
connecticut
examiner
article
that
just
came
out.
C
C
So
as
of
january
of
last
year,
we
were
in
a
raise
in
a
capital
raise,
and
we
found
someone
that
was
going
to
come
in
and
work
with
us,
someone
that
I
had
known
previously
and
there
was
a
promise
to
come
in
and
do
the
job
under
a
company
called
got
space
that
did
not
fund
the
guy
was
defaulted
in
the
course
of
that
process.
I
was
papered
out
of
my
own
project.
C
C
I
would
like
you
to
know
that
this
particular
site
that
we're
looking
at
was
not
covered
under
that
agreement
and
that
I'm
an
open
book
for
any
of
those
other
questions,
so
that
company
is
going
to
go,
do
what
they're
going
to
do
and
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
what
we
have
here.
The
the
the
next
step
in
the
process
was
to
get
some
legislation
passed,
not
an
easy
thing.
It
did
take
a
couple
of
years.
C
There
was
a
lot
of
self-funding
during
this
process
as
well,
and
when
we
got
up
to
the
capital,
we
weren't
sure
how
this
was
all
going
to
go.
So
what
we
did
with
decd
and
had
meetings
with
the
governor's
office
david
lehman
tony
roberto
with
advanced
ct
that
was
circ.
We
had
to
go
through
a
very
detailed
process.
I
met
with
connecticut
council
on
technologies.
We
met
with
connecticut
business
and
industries.
C
We
met
with
the
unions,
we
had
a
take
on
everybody
and
we
tried
to
put
this
together
in
a
format
that
would
be
competitive
nationally,
in
other
words
and
david
lehmann
said
it
best.
Why
would
you
want
to
do
this?
If
no
one's
going
to
come
when
you
get
done,
in
other
words,
we
have
to
be
marketplace
competitive.
C
I
set
off
on
over
over
about
three
years.
I
you
know
I've
traveled,
all
over
the
united
states
in
many
parts
of
europe
going
to
look
at
3.2
megawatt
generators
in
austria,
for
example,
going
to
see
the
caterpillar
plant
in
the
u.s
traveling
to
west
coast
venues
talking
to
private
equity
lenders,
so
we
could
create
a
structure
and
and
understand
the
capital
stack
as
best
we
can
to
be
able
to
get
this
formula
put
together,
so
it
would
actually
work
for
the
state
of
connecticut.
C
So
I
had
a
concept
of
a
data
corridor
which
was
working
with
certain
towns
where
the
municipal
electric
could
be
bought
in
the
day
ahead
market.
That
was
important,
that
the
regulation
was
possible,
in
other
words,
we're
not
going
to
convert
residential
to
industrial
zone.
We
had
to
find
residential.
I
mean
we
had
to
find
industrial
land.
We
also
had
to
be
near
main
trunk
fiber,
which
this
piece
fully
supports.
It's
right
on
the
right
on
the
fiber
line
on
95
and
we
have
to
be
able
to
hook
all
this
up
in
a
timely
fashion.
C
Now
there
are
some
examples:
you
can
look
at
albuquerque
new
mexico,
where
facebook
drags
power
out
into
the
desert
and
it's
just
a
megalopolis
of
a
site.
It
just
goes
on
for
miles
and
it's
just
a
center
in
the
depth.
We
don't
have
that
in
new
england
we
can't
clear
four
four
square
miles
of
trees
for
solar
to
support
a
data
center
by
the
way,
that's
what
it
would
take
four
square
miles.
So
that's
off
the
table.
C
We're
not
going
to
be
able
to
use
fuel
cells
in
southeastern
connecticut,
because
at
this
point
there's
approximately-
and
these
are
norwich
public
utility
numbers
from
a
year
ago
or
more
there's
approximately
12
decatherms
left
it's
not
very
much
of
all
the
gas
and
if
you
look
up
you
know,
the
end
of
the
line
for
the
northeast
is
cape
cod.
They
actually
had
a
moratorium
on
gas
permits
on
the
cape
because
down
in
provincetown
they
couldn't
turn
an
oven
on,
but
no
gas
was
coming
out.
C
C
Solar
is
really
not
going
to
work.
The
reason
we're
here
is
because
there
is
an
opportunity
for
the
ratepayers
against
what
was
recently
written
in
the
paper
to
do
very
well
with
this
job
and
I'll.
Tell
you
how
it
works
we
buy.
In
the
day
ahead
market
we
buy
the
utility
in
the
day-ahead
market.
We
can
also
buy
futures
but
we'll
buy
in
the
day-ahead
market
that
is
x,
amount
of
cents
per
kilowatt.
On
top
of
that,
there's
there's
distribution,
which
is
the
eversource
factor
and
then
there's
what's
called
final
mile
pricing.
C
That's
the
utility
company's
profit.
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
individual
homeowners,
except
this.
It's
a
huge
windfall
for
the
homeowners,
because
the
profit
that
they
make
will
be
on
a
32
megawatt
data
center
somewhere,
depending
on
the
final
deal.
So
I
don't
want
to
give
an
exact
number,
but
somewhere
between
a
million
eight
and
2.2
million
dollars
per
year
for
30
years,
that's
going
to
be
on
a
32
meg
based
on
today's
prices,
based
on
our
assumptions
in
the
marketplace.
That's
approximately
what
it
is
so,
in
other
words
it's
a
big
number.
C
So
that's
part
of
the
economic
benefit
to
any
municipal
utility.
That's
pulling
this
forward.
On
top
of
that,
there's
a
municipal
host
fee
agreement.
When
I
put
together
these
host
fee
agreements
for
this
in
other
towns,
I
wanted
parity
throughout.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
every
town
was
treated
fairly,
that
the
mayors
could
call
each
other
and
say
they
have
the
same.
You
know
situation
now,
some
of
the
towns
back
then
that
was
under
the
got
space
brand,
had
a
little
different
things.
C
What
I
did
on
this
particular
contract-
and
it
was
published
in
the
paper
by
david
collins
yesterday,
which
is
great-
and
if
you
read
down
the
contract,
you'll,
see
that
the
data
center
size
that
we
want
to
build
would
be
approximately
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
per
year.
They
think
that
sites
between
15
and
20
000
a
year
now
in
taxes.
This
would
be
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
per
year.
C
Now,
what
does
that
mean?
You're
hearing
in
the
marketplace,
data
centers
are
tax-free.
You're
right.
The
state
had
to
exempt
the
taxes
to
be
market
competitive
nationally.
So
people
in
the
marketplace,
those
decision
makers,
they
call
those
data
center
siting
councils,
so
those
people
would
at
least
look
at
connecticut.
C
I
always
make
the
I
I
always
use
an
analogy.
I
said
this
isn't
a
deli
where
people
are
taking
tickets
in
the
lines
out
the
door.
There
is
nobody
in
new
england
I
have
been
flying
around
the
country
to
los
angeles
and
seattle
and
and
even
salt
lake,
and
so
forth,
austin
dallas
trying
to
entice
people
to
come
to
the
state.
Now,
why
didn't
they
ever
come
here
before?
If
you
look
at
the
map,
the
data
center
map
for
the
country,
new
england,
has
nothing
in
it
at
all.
C
There
are
four
keys
to
data
center
development
in
a
particular
region,
and
we
are
bone
dry
in
new
england
for
data
development.
We
are
going
to
need
it
for
the
internet
of
all
things,
driverless
cars,
all
of
these
things,
and
please
read
the
connecticut
examiner
article
when
you
get
a
chance
with
dr
lin
zhong
at
yale,
who
I've
consulted
with
on
various
occasions
and
emailed
a
very
big
supporter
of
the
connectivity
project,
he's
co-authored
many
papers
with
microsoft
on
5g
ran.
C
These
are
things
we
don't
have
to
discuss
tonight,
but
I
just
want
to
tell
you
very,
very
prominent
guy
princeton
graduate,
so
dr
zhong
was
important
to
the
process.
So
come
back
to
this
site,
this
particular
site,
assuming
we
get
through
the
permitting
piece
with
an
envelope
plan
and
I'll
tell
you
we
have.
We
have
a
plan
up
here.
I
know
it's
small,
but
you're
welcome
to
come
up
and
look
at
it.
I
can
answer
questions.
This
is
a
piece
owned
by
hazelnut
trust.
I
trust
right
and
it's
about
168
right,
168
acres.
C
We
also
have
another
five
acre
piece
adjacent
to
it,
that
we
just
received
a
contract
on,
and
so
it's
going
to
be
around
173
acres
or
so
a
data
center
of
this
size
has
a
footprint
between
two
and
six
acres.
Roughly
now
it
depends
on
the
user.
A
certain
user
will
come
in
and
say
we
have
to
have
everything
on
one
floor.
C
Some
will
go
two
stories
and
that's
the
norm,
but
very
few
data
centers,
except
for
in
the
far
east,
are
vertical.
They
like
to
keep
them
low
and
and
straight
now,
a
couple
things
about
water,
sewer
and
electricity
data
center
developers,
and
it's
reflected
in
the
agreement
are
responsible
for
all
of
the
utility
upgrades.
This
does
not
go
to
the
ratepayers.
They
take
care
of
all
the
utility
upgrades.
C
C
Facebook
you'll
see
at
the
tennessee
valley
authority,
uses
a
ridiculous
amount
of
water
for
new
englanders,
but
it's
not
ridiculous
for
where
they
live,
millions
of
gallons
go
through
a
day
and
they
have
a
huge
infrastructure.
They
have
nuclear
power
plants,
they
have
all
kinds
of
backup
generation,
so
that
area
is
ripe.
C
But
why
are
we
talking
about
new
england,
because
one
tenth
of
the
entire
united
states
population
lives
within
200
miles
of
this
exact
location?
We're
going
to
need
to
have
that
broad
connectivity
almost
like
a
public
utility
coming
up
in
the
future,
we're
going
to
need
that
connectivity
and
you'll
you'll
learn
more
from
the
horse's
mouth,
dr
lynn
song.
So
he
probably
wouldn't
like
I
said
that,
but
but
that's
where
we're
at
so
so
the
water
sewer.
C
Now
as
far
as
the
water
recharge
district
we're
not
in
that
district,
we
are
hoping
to
stay
fully
away
at
maximum
lengths
per
regulation
from
water
sources,
because
it's
obviously
an
easier
approval
process.
We
have
173
acres.
We
just
need
a
small
footprint.
Compared
to
that,
there's
been
some
questions
out.
Are
we
going
to
take
all
the
trees
down
and
and
clear
the
foliage?
The
answer
is
no
we're
not
going
to
do
that,
we're
going
to
clear
for
the
data
center
and
the
land
around
it.
C
Now,
let's
talk
about
traffic,
because
this
has
also
come
up
the
town
of
wallingford,
where
I
was
previously
working.
We
may
be
down
there
again,
but
the
town
of
wallingford
was
not
going
to
require
a
traffic
report,
there's
about
80
jobs
or
so
permanent
jobs
that
run
with
the
data
center.
The
bigger
the
data
center,
the
the
more
the
number
of
jobs
will
increase,
but
it
won't
probably
double
so.
C
I
would
say,
based
on
the
folks,
we're
talking
to
we'd,
have
between
80
and
130
or
40
full-time
jobs
at
that
site,
including
security
and
maintenance,
and
so
forth.
The
building
would
cover
approximately
six
acres,
that's
subject
to
change.
We
intend
to
go
to
planning
and
zoning
with
an
envelope
plan
which
is
basically
an
outline
of
where
we
could
put
the
building
on
the
site.
It
won't
be
large,
but
it
will
be
there.
The
parking
coverage
very
minimal
for
an
acre.
C
C
There
are
ongoing
jobs
and
supply
chain
things
that
happen
with
a
large
data
center
like
this
now
in
a
cloud
providing
data
center
you'll
find
that
about
every
three
years
to
four
years
technology
requires
they
switch
out
the
servers.
It's
a
big
process,
there's
thousands
of
servers
during
that
process.
As
the
servers
come
out,
there
are
techs
that
come
in
all
over
the
country
six
months.
Maybe
to
do
this,
you'll
have
all
kinds
of
you
know.
The
restaurants
will
be
full.
C
The
hotels
will
be
jammed
and
so
forth
and
for
that
for
certain
periods
of
time,
they'll
try
to
do
it
when
you're
in
your
off
season.
I'm
sure
here
but
but
there'll
be
there'll,
be
some
traffic
boost
in
waves
every
three
to
four
years.
There
may
be
some
building
upgrades,
but
not
much
they're.
Building
these
data
centers
for
very
long
rides
about
approximately
you
know.
These
are
50
or
70-year
buildings.
Now
that
they're
looking
at
and
more
most
likely,
the
building
will
be
a
tilt-up
tilt-up,
concrete
construction
building.
C
They
call
it
a
raised
floor
data
center.
It
will
be
two
stories
there
has
been
questions
asked.
Are
we
going
to
have
smoke
stacks?
Are
we?
What
are
we
going
to
see
from
the
road
and
so
forth?
I
suggest
you,
google,
facebook,
in
new
albany,
ohio
and
look
at
the
videos,
because
that
is.
I
can't
facebook
would
like
to
say
if
I
was
typical,
but
it
shows
you
a
few
things,
I'd
like
to
explain
them
for
you
as
part
of
our
arrangement
to
be
approved,
we
had
to
agree
to
a
few
things.
C
There
will
be
smoke
stacks,
but
they'll
be
internal
to
the
building.
You
won't
see
them,
and
these
are
smoke
stacks
to
generators
that
are
used
less
than
one
percent
of
the
time
a
year,
most
likely
half
a
percent
a
year
and
I'd
like
to
explain
that,
so
the
building
sits
next
to
a
for
for
reference,
a
gunite
pool
trough.
Okay,
the
trough
runs
the
entire
length
of
the
building
and
within
that
trough
are
the
generators
and
the
fuel
sources.
That's
it
right
within
that
one
area
all
fully
contained.
This,
isn't
something
we're
making
up.
C
This
is
an
industry
standard.
They
do
it
all
over
the
country.
The
the
the
building
itself
will
be
approximately
50
feet
tall
depending
on
the
final
design.
If
it's
two
stories,
if
it's
one
story,
it's
going
to
be
approximately
30
feet
tall.
On
top
of
that
there'll
be
a
short
parapit
wall,
any
venting
for
anything
that
goes
on
air
conditioning
or
anything
else
goes
through
that,
and
it's
not
seen
from
any
of
the
roadways
it
sits
on
the
roof.
C
Therefore,
there
are
no
solar
panels
on
the
roof,
because
all
the
mechanicals
end
up
on
the
roof
I
put
in
to
the
groton
agreement
and
two
things
that
weren't
in
in
the
got
space
got
an
agreement,
got
an
agreement.
One
was
the
wallingford
sound
attenuation
parcel
important
stuff
towns
across
the
country.
Most
of
them
had
never
asked
for
it,
but
it's
thing
as
people
learn
more
and
more
and
go
forward
and
forward
wallingford
had
a
study
done.
C
So
I
took
the
exact
language
from
the
study
and
we
put
in
their
host
fee
agreement
from
the
got
space
contract.
It's
public
record.
You
can
do
this
and
we
put
it
into
the
into
the
groton
agreement.
So
basically,
this
is
based
off
sound
attenuation
from
route
95..
We
know
their
sound
on
95
and
it's
not
going
to
stop
so
the
goal
is
to
keep
it
at
sound
attenuation
levels.
There
part
of
this
process
will
require
a
some
type
of
a
structure.
Maybe
a
crane
and
there's
a
you.
C
You
can
read
it
yourself
and
it
shows
that
you
have
a
you
know,
a
certain
sound
decibel
level
and
so
forth,
and
we
try
to
keep
it
at
a
particular
level
based
on
the
based
on
the
sound
of
the
highway
and
the
nearest
ambient
sound
source,
and
there
are
ways
to
adjust
this
by
by
using
particular
sound
attenuation
measures
on
the
roof.
It's
done
in
many
places
in
the
country.
That's
the
sound
piece.
C
Once
we
pass
this
legislation,
I
want
to
tell
you
in
case
you
don't
know
it
passed
with
91
percent
of
the
house,
voting
in
favor
and
85
percent
of
the
voting
members
of
the
senate.
One
was
out
and
one
had
to
abstain,
so
85
percent
of
voting
members
of
the
senate
voted
for
this
bill
at
the
very
last
hour
of
the
very
last
day
of
the
legislature.
A
piece
of
legislation
popped
up
and
it's
going
to
come
up
again
this
year
and
it
was
decd
asking
for
very
specific
changes
for
environmental.
C
C
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
put
together
an
agreement
with
the
town,
who's
been
very
responsive
and
we're
trying
to
formulate
the
agreement,
so
it
makes
it
attractive
for
a
data
center
company
and
I'm
talking
a
large
data
center
operator
to
come
into
the
town
of
groton
and
be
a
good
neighbor.
You'll
see
if
you
see
look
at
some
of
these
videos
that
are
online
when
they
did
the
new
albany
ohio
expansion.
Everyone
from
the
governor
to
the
local
economic
director
to
the
mayor
to
the
employees
of
the.
C
Are
in
the
video
and
you'll
get
a
good
feel
for
how
this
thing
works?
It's
a
really
interesting
process.
There's
there's
a
lot
of
outreach
programs
to
schools.
There's
a
lot
of
local
community
involvement
in
many
projects
at
communities
request.
They
really
do
get
involved
in
in
communities
in
new
england.
Here
we
have
a
very
you
know:
small
availability
of
land.
C
A
Tom,
thank
you
very
much.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
open
up
for
questions.
I
believe
we
have
mics
on
either
side
of
the
room
and
they'll
come
over
and
do
it
and
also
we're
going
to
alternate
in
with
zoom
as
questions
appear
to
make
sure
everyone
gets
equal
voice.
So
the
first
one
I
have
on
my
list
is
michael
blood
page
right
over
here
you
don't
have
a
question.
D
I'd
just
like
to
say
I
I
represent
local
777
plumbers
and
pipefitters.
I
live
here
in
groton
and
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
work
on
this
job.
That's
just
my
feelings
about
it.
I've
I've
read
into
it
and
looked
into
it.
I
do
understand
the
conservation
type
things
if
you're
true
to
your
word
and
you're,
going
to
work
with
that,
then
I'm
fine
with
that.
C
A
E
C
E
C
So
happy
to
answer
it:
okay,
it's
a
it's
going
to
be
a
long
answer.
It's
going
to
take
about
10
or
15
minutes,
and
I'm
going
to
have
to
take
each
one
of
those
individually
with
yes
or
no's.
Okay,
so
I'll
have
to
ask,
I
don't
have
the
question
in
front
of
me
so
ask
me
the
question
and
give
me
the
first
part
of
it.
Please
what.
E
C
C
We
are
going
to
run
underground
and
above
ground
power
lines
in
parallel
to
the
highway
at
this
point,
but
we
don't
have
our
final
report
back,
we
are
working
or
the
utility
is
working
with
eversource
for
interconnects
and
so
forth,
and
we
should
have
those
reports
back
I
mean
momentarily.
It
will
run
parallel
up
there.
It
will
be
away
from
most
of
the
population
up
in
that
area.
C
Some
of
it
will
be
underground,
especially
probably
to
start
the
first
part
of
it
will
be
underground,
not
transmission
lines
underground,
because
it's
too
heavy
to
do
that.
It
has
to
be
smaller
loads,
but
we're
working
with
them,
and
we
won't
have
that
particular
part
of
that
answer.
Quite
yet,
electromagnetic,
yes,
and
what
was
the
next
one.
C
There
won't
be
any
radio
frequencies,
except
you,
know
the
the
the
frequencies
to
to
turn
on
the
lighting
systems
on
the
on
the
data
center
inside
and
outside
or
so
forth.
These
are
very,
very
contained,
very
high
security,
biometric
infrared,
protected
buildings,
they're
going
to
be
fully
fenced
off,
they'll,
be
24-hour
security
at
the
at
the
gate
they
will
know
and
there
will
be
multiple
security
overlays
in
different
states
that
will
know
if
anyone
tries
to
get
near
the
data
center
building
itself
very
high
security
right
and.
C
So
this
is
right
next
to
95,
where
there's
an
awful
big
amount
of
light
pollution,
we
we
can
leave
no
lights
on
the
building,
no
one's
requesting
a
sign
of
any
type.
At
this
point
there
will
be
some
emergency
lighting.
Certainly
there
will
be
some
probably
some
lighting
motion
type
lighting,
but
I
mean
in
the
in
the
most
critical
areas
bollards
could
be
used.
I
mean
this
building
doesn't
get
lit
up.
G
H
C
C
In
the
interim,
there
is
a
uninterrupted
power
supply
which
is
a
battery
set
in
between
they
don't
last
long,
because
the
the
data
center
requires
a
lot
of
energy.
So
there
is
a
battery
set
to
hold
the
load
that
comes
on
it
actually
is
always
on,
and
then
the
diesel
generator
would
come
on
for
a
period
of
time,
and
then
it
gets
shut
off
in
the
event
of
a
power.
C
I
C
Well,
with
all
the
supply
chain
issues
and
things
we're
having
now,
I'm
told
by
our
construction
consultants,
which
are
the
largest
data
builders
in
the
world,
we
have
standing
calls
every
friday
with
them,
they're
estimating
in
this
location
that
it
would
take
between
seventeen
hundred
to
two
thousand
people.
They
tell
me
right
now
that
they
have
only
a
thousand
available
qualified
companies,
including
concrete
master
electricians
and
so
forth
in
the
region
and
they're
trying
to
ramp
up.
They
see
this
coming
and
they
see
this
coming
by
the
way.
C
C
I
can't
give
you
the
exact
water
number,
but
these
are
air-conditioned
buildings
now,
there's
something
very
unique
in
the
northeast
and
the
reporter
that
you're
going
to
hear
about
shortly.
That
has
done
some
deep,
diving,
the
one
that
did
the
connecticut
examiner
article
is
also
in
contact
with
a
person
named
gene
goddard,
and
I
find
him
I
bumped
into
a
mentor.
So
during
my
process
about
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
I
was
asked
to
go
to
hartford
metro
alliance.
C
I
don't
know
if
you
know
what
this
is,
but
it's
it's
currently
about
108
companies
that
contribute
a
substantial
amount
of
money,
and
this
is
a
this-
is
a
an
organization.
That's
set
up
to
promote
business
in
the
state
of
connecticut
insurance
companies
are
there,
but
also
a
lot
of
other
types
of
companies
manufacturing
and
they
will
support
and
have
supported
data
center
building.
So
I
was
asked
to
go
speak
to
them.
C
When
I
was
going
around
to
see
all
the
agencies-
and
I
met
someone
named
gene
goddard
gene
goddard
when
I
went
in-
I
said
you
know
some
of
these
data
companies
are
saying
that
it's
a
600
million
dollar
build,
and
it's
more
and
it's
less.
I
said
I
found
it
that
there's
a
problem
because
I
looked
at
a
project
in
minnesota
where
google
went
to
minnesota
of
all
places
right
and
there's
a
coal
plant
servicing
the
data
center
and
so
forth,
and
I
started
to
get
in
he
said:
stop
he
said,
that's
my
project.
C
So
here's
the
real
story:
gene
goddard,
lives
in
minnesota,
works
for
hartford,
metro
alliance
and
he's
an
extremely
bright
man.
He
went
to
dallas
for
two
months
and
convinced
them
to
bring
a
data
center
of
one
million
square
feet.
Google
to
there.
He
still
is
in
touch
with
these
folks.
He's
got
a
great
relationship
with
them
now.
The
reason
it's
important
is
because
that
coal
plant
was
picked
up
by
the
press.
C
It
wasn't
good
information,
there's
300
megawatts,
like
we
may
have
some
here,
wind
of
wind,
that
they're
blending
in
and
there's
also
a
nuclear
plant
across
the
river,
and
there
are
two
coal
plants.
Actually
so
there
was
redundant
power
on
redundant
power
does
minnesota
need
that
data
center.
They
were
taking
advantage
and
reserving
a
lot
of
power
that
they
need
and
had
an
abundance
of
in
that
region.
So
he
put
that
deal
together.
C
So
what
we've
been
told
is
connecticut's
a
very
diff,
I'm
getting
off
the
question
going
right
back,
they're
told
connecticut's
very
difficult
to
get
regular.
So
so
we
have
jv
joint
venture
arrangements,
but
we
have
to
complete
the
task
and
the
task
is
to
pull
all
the
pieces
together,
get
conservation
approval
in
the
wetlands
and
so
forth.
Sorry.
C
Water
consumption
is
minimal,
water
consumption
is
minimal,
it's
air
conditioned
building,
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
a
gross
example:
tennessee
valley
authorities,
millions
of
gallons
a
day
to
service
to
facebook
centers.
When
we
don't
have
it
here.
We
know
we
don't
have
it
here.
We
have
no
intention
of
using
that
water.
For
that
I
mean
the
basic
water.
C
It's
the
air-conditioned
system
in
the
winter
time,
by
the
way
we
can
even
shut
off-
and
they
do
this
in
the
minnesota
google
plan,
they
can
actually
shut
down
the
ac
and
use
a
fan
system,
and
then
the
air
is,
is
you
know,
humidified
and
so
forth,
dehumidified
and
it's
put
through
the
system,
so
we
hope
even
to
cut
back
and
make
it
more
efficient.
There
sorry.
J
Which
we
don't
see,
we've
seen
these
amazons
come
in
into
the
state
of
connecticut
and
with
the
pollution
and
the
environmental
impact
that
they
have
the
16
hour
jobs
without
benefits
right
bring
construction
workers
in
from
out
of
state
for
substandard
wages.
This
development
doesn't
have
any
of
that
and,
on
behalf
of
the
building
trades
we'd
like
to
thank
you
for
coming
in
and
then
making
sure
that
people
in
the
community
are
being
represented
and
paid
fairly
on
your
project.
So
thanks,
thanks
for
coming
in
great
presentation,
appreciate
that
thanks
joseph.
C
Okay,
so
let's
do
the
200
and
400
million
dollar
piece,
so
those
were
numbers
that
that
the
state
of
connecticut
worked
through.
So
we
you
know,
we
set
up
a
grid
of
all
of
the
all
of
the
incentives
nationwide,
and
then
we
tried
to
figure
out
what
we
could
do
and
where
we
could
do
it
and
how
it
would
fit
in.
So
the
connecticut
would
be
at
least
a
possible
choice
to
put
a
data
center
in
and
during
this
process,
I
had
higher
numbers
higher
thresholds
for
investment.
C
C
Dollars
and
this
this
is
a
bonded
deal,
so
once
you
start
you're
guaranteed
to
hit
it
the
once
you
get
to
that
level,
you
have
20
years
of
no
sales
use
real
estate
taxes
20
years.
If
you
spend
400
million
dollars,
you
have
30
years.
So
it's
a
guaranteed
investment
in
this
town
of
either
200
million
or
four,
but
it
really
won't
work
like
that.
C
So
to
answer
the
other
question
about
what
the
taxes
would
be,
they
would
be
substantially
more
just
so
everybody
knows
the
reason
the
tax
incentives
are
in
place
is
because
they
do
not
come
to
the
state
if
they
have
to.
They
can't
make
it
work.
Why
can't
they
make
it
work
three
and
a
half
cent
power
20-year
guarantees
in
the
state
of
texas
other
areas,
five
and
six
cent
power?
Okay
and
they,
so
they
have
much
shorter
incentives.
C
Texas
is
10
with
a
five-year
option
for
15.,
but
if
you
look
at
a
spreadsheet
and
put
it
over
30
years,
they're
saving
150
million
dollars
over
what
it
would
cost
here,
for
example,
depending
on
the
size
of
the
building,
because
they
have
inexpensive
power.
Our
power,
as
we
all
know,
is
the
most
expensive
in
the
united
states,
or
was
this
past
year.
I
haven't
looked
at
this
year.
C
It's
too
depressing,
but
and
rhode
island
is
second
and
the
northeast
is
really
stuck
so
so
we
had
to
make
an
incentive
so
that
the
industry
would
say,
hey
look,
you
know,
they're
really
trying
to
make
this
thing
work
and
we've
brought
power
into
national
market
levels
now,
which
is
about
you
know
around
six
and
a
half
to
seven
percent,
seven
cents,
a
kilowatt
on
on
a
very
large
economy
of
scale
by
good.
I.
L
L
On
february
8th,
mr
quinn,
you
gave
an
ultimatum
to
the
town
said,
accept
my
accept
my
my
program
or
I
walk
two
weeks.
Then
when
that
was
not
accepted
very
happily,
you
said:
okay,
four
weeks,
I
think
this
was
disrespectful
to
the
town,
and
would
we
expect
more
consideration
from
you
in
the
future?
Are
we
going
to
have
to
work
with
you
for
20
or
30
years,
the
idea
of
doing
something
in
two
weeks
on
a
30-year
30-year
plan?
It
seems
to
me
to
be
very
strange.
L
L
C
C
This
is
about
opportunity
for
all
of
us,
including
us.
It's
a
big
opportunity
for
the
town.
There
is
a
very
short
time
and
you
will
see
data
centers
in
connecticut
in
a
very
short
amount
of
time.
We
have
this
from
people
at
the
state
level
that
are
getting
calls.
We've
heard
this
through
construction
company,
a
very
large
construction
company
with
offices
in
this
state.
I've
been
in
their
offices
in
in
new
york,
multiple
times
they're
coming,
so
we're
trying
to
get
this
done
so
that
we
don't
miss
the
boat.
C
There
is
a
the
parcel
we're
talking
about
is
172
acres,
sir
172.
hyperscale
data
centers.
If
you'd
like
to
look
it
up
everything's
on
google
these
days,
you
can
verify
anything.
You
can
fact
check
any
of
this
they're
looking
for
100
to
120
for
privacy
100
to
120,
acre
parcels.
This
is
not
a
typical
desert,
datus
or
or
a
or
a
minnesota
parcel
where
you're
on
a
prairie
or
desert.
C
It's
not
a
mistake
that
we're
sitting
here-
and
it
was
a
long,
steady
process
for
us
to
get
to
this
process
of
elimination
to
get
all
of
those
parts
put
together
so
that
we
could
be
able
to
present
something
like
this.
The
next
thing
in
montville
I
never
had
any
interest
in
montville.
I
didn't
have
any
shares
in
montville.
I
didn't
have
a
non-disclosure
agreement.
I
didn't
have
a
contract.
I
was
paid
as
a
consultant.
I
went
in
and
did
a
job
those
partners
are.
Those
partners
are
in
arguing
over
600
acres
of
land.
C
I
have
nothing
to
do
with
that.
Nor
did
I
ever
have
any
decision
to
buy
land,
sell
land,
build
a
gas
plant
or
anything
else.
So
just
because
two
people
are
in
an
argument
somewhere
else
has
nothing
to
do
with
me,
no
matter
what
anyone
has.
I
haven't
been
named
in
that
in
that
in
that
suit.
So
please
don't
tie
me
to
anything
that
I'm
not
responsible
for.
C
Let
me
finish:
I
wrote
these
down,
so
I
could
respond
to
you.
Everybody
else
in
the
world
may
be
litigious,
I'm
not
litigious.
I
am
not.
You
can
look
me
up
and
the
town
of
groton's
already
done
that.
Please
take
the
time
to
look
up
the
other
entity.
That's
here
and
you'll
get
a
better
idea
of.
What's
going
on.
M
C
I'm
glad
you
have
it
flat
flat
land,
new
albany,
ohio
you're
right.
Do
you
know
why
they
went
to
new
albany
ohio
folks,
because
the
fiber
line
goes
from
chicago
to
richmond,
someone
else
already
paid
for
the
fiber
highway,
so
they
followed
the
line
down
and
they
said
wait
a
minute.
Where
can
we
what
town
will
work
with
us?
And
if
you
go
talk
to
the
mayor
in
new
albany
ohio,
please
write
them.
Email.
Look
at
the
talk
to
their
economic
director,
write
the
governor's
office.
C
Take
a
look
and
see.
What's
going
on.
There,
they've
had
a
wonderful
relationship
out
there.
There
aren't
any
pollution
scares
and
electricity
overhead
line
scares
for
cancer.
There's
none
of
that.
Okay!
It's
very
contained.
It's
very
well
done
and
we're
going
to
do
the
same
job
likely
with
the
same
construction
people
likely
with
one
of
those
same
companies
that
are
already
there
right
here
in
grav.
If
you
let
us
do
it.
E
C
First
of
all,
everything
that
every
person
we
talk
to,
we
probably
have
60
ndas
out
non-disclosure
agreements.
We
can't
get
into
any
of
the
financing
aspects
of
this.
There
are
interested
very
large
private
equity
and
debt
lenders.
We've
been
approached
by
a
number
of
them.
We
have
a
couple
solid
in
mind
when
it
comes
time
to
build
the
data
center,
but
remember
remember
the
process
I
told
you
at
the
beginning:
jv
means
joint
venture
agreement.
C
We
may
come
into
it
and
be
part
of
this
operation
for
30
years
for
20
years.
However,
long
that
we
we
we
work
with
the
tax,
it's
a
tax
legislation.
However,
if
a
hyperscaler
comes
in
they're,
going
to
fund
it
themselves
once
this
project
starts,
I
want
people
to
be
clear.
I
got
a
lot
of
questions
about
what
happens
if
it
goes
bust
and
belly
up
once
this
project
starts,
there's
bonding
for
100
of
the
construction.
Every
road
that's
touched,
sewer
water,
these
guys
that
got
up
tonight,
I
think
you
know,
are
involved
in
jobs.
C
Every
piece
of
the
job
is
bonded
and
the
financing
for
the
job
to
build
it
out
in
full
is
bonded.
It's
an
industry
standard
again,
google,
it
you
can
check
bonding,
is,
is
critical
to
the
entire
process,
so
you
can
be
very
assured
once
it
gets
approved
and
they
start
it's
they're,
going
to
finish
it
and
they're
going
to
be
hooking
up
the
fiber
lines
and
so
forth.
We've
been
working
with
three
different
fiber
providers
at
this
point,
including
the
fiber
provider
that
works
with
95
percent
of
the
state.
C
C
C
One
of
the
operators
has
8
000
current
tenants,
nationwide
8
000.,
so
we're
going
to
get
some
tenants
and
we're
going
to
get
them
fast.
What
they're
looking
for
is
to
get
by
the
regulation,
taxes,
cost
of
utility
and
fiber
problems,
and
that's
what
I'm
here
to
solve
to
put
our
agreement
to
finish
our
agreement.
C
N
In
response,
groton
wisely
passed
a
resolution
of
commitment
to
address
climate
change,
resilience
and
sustainability
as
a
central
management
principle
for
all
actions
of
town
government.
That's
a
quote:
that's
the
resolution
that
was
passed
and
it
was
passed
recently.
The
objective
is
to
lessen
future
impacts
by
lowering
the
town's
contributions
to
climate
change,
not
raise
them.
N
This
data
center
proposal
is
a
big
step
in
the
wrong
direction.
Why?
Because
data
centers
contribute
considerably
to
global
warming,
they
use
a
lot
of
electricity
and
generate
a
lot
of
heat.
We
are
concerned
that
the
data
center
will
create
a
heat
island
effect
or
cause
the
micro
climate
in
the
area
to
change
during
extreme
climatic
or
weather
events.
N
N
They
also
would
be
concerned
about
the
noise,
the
heat,
the
air
quality
issues
that
usually
accompany
a
data
center.
That
is,
unless
you
plan
to
build
a
green
data
center.
Are
you
planning
to
minimize,
rather
than
maximize
the
building
footprint,
to
minimize
clear,
cutting,
that's
extremely
important?
Okay,.
A
N
Are
you
considering
sustainable
landscaping?
Will
you
be
using
catalytic
converters
on
your
diesel-fueled
backup
generators
to
reduce
emissions,
green
data
centers
call
for
the
elimination
of
vibrations
by
avoiding
sites
close
to
railroads
major
highways
and
construction
sites.
You
will
be
building
very
close
to
I-95.
C
C
P
C
C
Is
a
donation
piece
since
I
I
we
pledge
to
give
at
least
50
acres,
there
probably
will
be
more
acreage
than
that.
It
starts
right
here,
and
it
goes
over.
Part
of
the
agreement
is
to
make
sure
that
we
leave
access
off
of
this
road
and
attaches
to
the
conservation
piece
that
you
have
ghost
homes.
I
guess
down
here.
M
M
C
C
The
bulk
of
this
piece
would
be
set
back
from
the
road,
in
other
words,
the
buildings
wouldn't
be
out
here,
we're
going
to
provide
an
envelope
plan,
we're
not
trying
to
put
the
buildings
over
here
we're
trying
to
put
the
building
here
next
to
the
state
area
away
from
the
vernal
pool.
That's
here
and
we're
trying
to
put
it
right
about
here.
These
are
two
small
state
pieces.
We
haven't
asked
the
state
yet,
but
we
we
know.
According
to
our
engineer
the
history
is,
they
were
left
over
from
highway
construction.
C
C
This
is
the
sheep
farm,
so
it'll
be
connected
to
the
sheep
farm
area,
and
this
will
be
this
and
I
can
I've
been
doing
permitting
for
most
of
my
adult
life.
I
can
it's
my
opinion
as
a
developer
perimeter
that
the
data
center
up
here
is
going
to
be
the
least
of
any
almost
any
uses
you
can
think
of
for
this
industrial
parcel
under
the
zoning.
We
know
the
setbacks.
We
know
you
can
clear
a
lot
of
this,
certainly
multiples
of
what
we
intend
to
clear.
So
it's
a
good
choice
for
the
site.
C
We
think
this
17-acre
piece
we
think
we
can
put
right
here
where
that
would
be
the
building
envelope
area
that
way
we're
far
enough
away
from
the
water
source
stuff
we're
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
feet
away,
and
it's
a
nice
clean
attachment
and
you're
absolutely
right
about
data
centers
being
near
highways.
You
are
and
railroads,
but
in
this
case
there's
only
so
many
options
and
the
connectivity
is
required
and
we
had
our
construction
company
checked
the
site
and
they
gave
us
a
couple
page
viability,
study
and
that's
been
sent
on
already.
C
C
I
said
earlier
about
how
I
adopted
stuff
that
was
proposed
by
the
deep
commissioner
by
katie
dykes.
It
was
proposed
that
we
do
tier
2
tier
4
generators.
What
does
that
mean?
Tier
2
is
a
backup
generator.
It's
separately
permitted
as
backup.
Only
and
tier
4
is
for
peak
shaving
peak
shaming
is
done
in
all
municipal
utilities.
Almost
every
major
hotel
in
the
state
peak
shaves
university's
peak
shave
in
the
state
you
have
to
take
a
look
at
this
peak.
Shaving
occurs
everywhere:
major
employers
in
this
town
peak
shave.
They
have
permits
for
it.
C
You
can
go
online
and
look.
You
can
call
deep
and
ask
for
all
the
permits
that
are
available
for
peak
shaving,
so
peak
shaving
is
not
only
allowed.
Everyone
has
permits
for
it
locally.
So
in
this
particular
case
we're
going
to
have
tier
4
generators,
which
are
the
most
expensive.
You
asked
about
catalytic
converters.
These
are
the
cleanest
possible
generators,
the
the
ones
we're
looking
at,
and
I
can't
tell
you
that
we're
deciding
on
anything
because
it's
not
going
to
be
my
eventual
decision.
C
It'll
be
engineers
and
data
center
operator
decisions,
but
kohler
makes
an
extremely
efficient
generator
at
this
point.
Some
of
the
engine
blocks
and
old
generators
are
20
years
old
and
they
just
keep
putting
fancy
electronics
on
it.
But
it's
the
same
old
engine,
not
kohler.
They
have
a
whole
new
engine,
set
up
to
be
able
to
run
these
things
during
and
don't
forget
less
than
one
half
of
one
percent
of
the
year
and
it's
going
to
model
when
the
town
peak
shaves.
C
That's
when
we're
going
to
peak
shave,
it's
likely
going
to
be
in
the
summer
for
a
few
hours,
then
we're
going
to
test
it.
The
the
our
our
studies
showed
that
last
year
there
would
have
been
12
hours
of
peak
shaving
for
the
year
and
it
would
have
happened
at
late
august
and
early
july.
You
want
to
ask
another
question:
what.
C
C
They're
gonna
come
on,
except
if
we're
peak
shaving,
so
how
the
peak
shaving
works-
and
I've
explained
this
to
other
towns
I'll
do
as
quickly
as
I
can
in
30
seconds,
you're
buying
electricity,
the
electricity
cost
x
every
single
day,
you're
paying
your
formula
for
your
next
year's
bill
is
based
on
what
you're
drawing
this
year.
That's
how
it's
done
so
what
we
have
to
do
is
when
there
are
spikes
in
the
cost
of
electricity.
C
Okay,
so
you're
just
taking
the
peaks
which
are
the
highest
parts
of
the
graph
off
to
save
future
cost
of
electricity.
It
helps
the
grid
actually
to
do
it.
Okay,
tier
four
generators,
green
buildings.
Yes,
it's
in
the
legislation
we
took
the
d
decd
sent
me
something
with
d-e-e-p
last
year
and
I
agreed
to
it
in
writing
with
them.
It
didn't
pass
in
the
legislation,
but
we
put
it
in
to
groton's
thing
and
it's
in
their
number
of
green
buildings.
I
was
on
with
the
town
today
about
they
had
seven
or
eight
of
them.
C
The
town
thought
two
or
three
were
better
than
others,
and
the
town
is
right.
They
are
better
I'll
agree
to
those
three
or
two
or
one
if
they
want
whatever
they
need
to
have,
but
it's
good
to
have
some
options
and
that
wasn't
my
language.
I
came
directly
from
the
state
we
covered.
Swap
we
carved
covered
green
tier
four,
I'm
sure
you
have
more.
E
C
Yeah
they're
not
running
sinks
and
flushing,
with
80
million
gallons
or
whatever
yeah.
That
is
typical,
so
in
the
south
west
in
the
southeast
of
the
country,
they
use
that
quantity
of
water.
Today
in
data
centers,
it's
a
fact
we're
going
to
air
condition
the
buildings
we're
not
going
to
have
water
used,
we're
not
using
a
closed
loop
system.
We're
air
conditioning
the
buildings,
the
the
duct
work
makers
are
going
to
have
an
awful
lot
of
work,
so
yeah
we're
air
conditioning
buildings.
Q
C
Use
use
will
be
for
we'll
we'll
have
to
provide
the
town
and
the
state
these
uses
will
be
all
within
regulation.
We're
not
going
to
you
know
this
isn't
going
to
be
a
drain
on
the
town
water
supply.
This
is
air
conditioning
systems,
so
we're
replacing
the
water
with
electricity,
basically
to
run
the
ac
systems.
C
C
They
want
to
know
how
much
you
need
to
store,
so
they
store
these.
They
store
that
next
to
the
generator
all
protected,
so
nothing
leaves
the
site
it's
fully
contained
from
the
beginning.
Everything
is
in
a
box.
The
town
brought
up
batteries.
You
won't
store
batteries
outside,
of
course,
not
no
one's
storing
batteries
outside
the
insurance
company
wouldn't
allow
it
it
would,
and
these
buildings
are
well
insured.
Obviously,
there
won't
be
any
diesel
storage
outside
of
the
containment
area,
which
is
within
the
building.
C
C
C
The
states
just
recently
backed
off
that
we're
going
to
still
have
a
green
building
and
we're
going
to
do
everything
to
state
and
federal
epa
standards
across
the
board.
As
far
as
green
goes,
yes,
we're
going
to
use
one
of
eight
different
building
designs
under
the
green
plants,
and
it's
in
the
agreement
already
and
we're
going
to
use
the
most
efficient
gen
sets
that
you
can
find
and
we're
going
to
air
condition.
So
we're
trying
to
do
all
those
things
as
green
as
you
can
make
it
in
this
region.
A
R
R
C
No,
what
it'll
be
is
wholly
owned
by
the
data
center
company,
whatever
that
name
is
it's
going
to
be
wholly
owned?
By
that
it
will
not
be
likely
likely
likely
fenced
out
to
the
property
line.
It
will
be
fenced
around
the
building
someone
asked
about
you
know,
and
this
falls
into
your
question:
there's
a
there's
a
enough
clearing
around
the
building
for
security
and
there's
very
tall
fence
and
biometrics.
C
R
C
There
are
certain
things
that
cannot
happen
based
on,
depending
on
the
size
of
the
building
we
had.
So
if
we,
if
we
get
a
large-scale
user,
that's
going
to
be
it
for
at
least
10
or
15
years.
Could
they
want
to?
Should
they
want
to
expand?
They
have
to
come
right
back
to
the
town
and
ask
to
expand
and
the
town
will
decide,
but
I'll
tell
you
with
that
size,
very
unlikely.
C
R
C
No,
I
don't
think
so.
Look
we'll
do
a
traffic
study,
but
it's
80
cars
spread
over
three
shifts
at
the
most
it's
120
cars.
So
it's
40
cars
every
eight
hours.
I
think
it's
other
towns
have
no
one
else
has
asked
for
one,
because
it's
so
few
eventual
jobs
there
will
be
a
lot
of
jobs
when
you're
in
the
building
and
that's
when
the
traffic
is
going
to
be.
You.
C
C
C
R
C
C
R
C
This
we
don't
have
any
enough
connectivity
to
have
any
of
these
things
that
we
all
want
to
have
in
our
life.
All
the
connectivity
issues
driverless
cars.
You
can't
run
one
here.
They
don't
have
enough
connectivity.
You
need
a
base
for
driverless
cars.
I
mean
I
can
get
any
explanations.
I
have
them
all
austin's
doing
500
white
poles
around
the
city
right
now
and
they're
going
to
have
a
driverless
car
network
in
austin.
First
one
in
the
world
they're
going
to
have
it
all
driverless.
C
E
C
So
there
are
44
data
centers
in
the
region.
They
are
very
small.
Some
are
the
size
of
this
room
or
half
the
size
of
this
room.
We're
talking
about
acres
of
data
centers,
we're
talking
about
500,
800,
000
square
feet,
we're
talking
about
cloud
providers.
These
are
not
cloud
providers.
These
are
not
amazon,
google,
microsoft,
facebook,
apple
or
any
of
the
major
colo
companies.
C
These
data
centers
in
massachusetts,
don't
have
the
incentives
that
we
have
here.
Groton
may
get
a
big
benefit
because
some
of
those
those
tenants
that
lease
in
those
centers
would
be
likely
also
to
come
here,
because
it's
a
better
deal
for
them.
So
there
are
many
small
ones.
Now
some
some
are
44.
One
is
for
a
particular
insurance
company
in
hartford.
One
is
for
ubs
and
they're
proprietary
data,
centers
they're,
not
helping
the
community
they're
helping
their
own
business.
That's
the
difference
between
those
two,
so
she's
right.
C
F
B
F
Okay,
I
guess
the
only
one
question
I'll
address
is
the
issue
I
have
is,
with
you
guys
being
gifted
with
no
property
taxes
on
this
facility
for
20
years
or
more,
and
how
that's
going
to
impact
our
tax
base.
The
rest
of
us
have
to
pay
taxes
every
year
and
you
guys
don't
have
to
and
the
same
thing
with
the
electricity
rate
being
discounted
for
you.
F
C
I'll
try
to
do
that
and
be
brief,
so
the
taxes
were
exempted
by
the
state
to
attract
data
centers,
but
we're
providing
a
partial
replacement
for
those
taxes
through
a
municipal
fee,
hosting
agreement
of
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
per
year
for
one
of
these
buildings.
So
there
are
taxes
coming
back
to
the
town.
I
don't
know
what
the
town
does
with
that.
I
don't
know
if
it
goes
on
to
the
grand
list.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
in
a
different
pocket,
but
it
comes
back
to
the
town.
C
C
K
S
T
T
U
So
an
answer
to
your
question:
no,
all
the
utilities
are
not
going
to
be
coming
solely
from
flanders.
Road
there'll
be
utilities
that
come
from
both
sides.
So
there
will.
There
will
be
some
improvements
to
the
flanders
road
utilities,
but-
and
there
will
also
be
some
connections
made-
that
don't
currently
exist.
U
U
Yes,
I'm
aware
of
that,
so
we
will
be
required
by
the
regulatory
process
to
interconnect
the
water
from
where
we're
going
to
uptake
it
to
where
we're
going
to
where
the
loop
would
be
closed
out.
So
we'll
be
required
to
close
the
loop
from
flanders
road
down
to
north
road
route.
117.,
so
we'll
be
we'll
be
creating
a
utility
quarter
through
there,
which
will
service
our
needs,
but
will
also
service
the
needs
of
future
development
in
the
community.
A
T
C
Without
the
17
acres,
but
we
it's
better,
we
think
for
all
involved,
don't
forget
most
of
that
17
acres
will
be
in
the
setback
area,
which
means
it's
not
going
to
be
built
on.
It's
just
going
to
take
a
sliver
of
the
back,
a
slice
of
the
back,
probably
about
a
portion
of
it.
I
don't
know
the
exact
number
of
the
engineers
here.
The.
E
V
All
right,
most
of
my
questions
have
been
answered,
but
I'm
thinking
of
the
future
in
20
years
say
you
want
to
expand,
because
this
has
been
so
successful.
I
think
this
is
for
the
town.
Maybe
how
would
that
work?
Would
they
have
free
reign
or
would
they
have
to
start
the
whole
process
again?
How
would
that
work.
C
A
30-year
situation
so
far
we
haven't
seen
data
centers
abandoned
in
the
united
states.
It's
the
number
one
asset
class
in
the
entire
world:
please,
google,
it
and
and
so
they're
valuable.
Once
you
have
a
cutout
in
a
particular
area
like
this
and
you're,
connected
to
the
fiber
and
you're
relying
on
the
data
center
regionally,
what
is
most
likely
to
happen
is
they'll
remodel
the
entire
thing
to
the
standard.
C
We
can't
even
imagine,
30
years
from
now
and
they'll
be
bringing
new
servers
in
anyway
in
a
cloud
computing
environment
every
three
years
or
so
so
they'll
be
bringing
it
up
to
speed
up
to
speed
the
physical
plan
itself.
I
don't
know
but
there'll
be
other
requirements,
and
we
know
over
time
the
state's
going
to
want
better
and
better
quality
generators,
for
example,
and
different
things.
So
this
will
be
an
evolutionary
process
and
it
will
be.
You
know,
it'll
be
some
time,
but
if
you
look,
there
haven't
been
any
data
center
bankruptcies.
A
C
Oh,
absolutely,
it
would
be
it
would.
It
would
be
coming
through.
You'd
have
to
do
anything
on
the
site,
there's
a
permit
to
build
a
building.
We
can't
do
anything
else
on
that
site
unless
we
go
back
to
the
town
to
ask
and
pnz
would
have
decision
making
authority,
but
the
tax
deal
does
end
at
the
end
of
30
years
and
then,
whatever
the
taxes
are
or
the
taxes
to
be
paid.
At
that
point,
it.
E
So,
just
for
a
little
clarity,
john
reiner,
director
of
planning
and
development
services,
any
approvals
on
the
site
have
to
go
through
our
planning
and
zoning
commission,
inland
wetlands,
commission
and
whatever,
if
anything,
gets
approved
in
the
near
future
on
the
site.
If
they
want
to
make
changes
to
that
in
the
future,
they
would
have
to
go
back
before
those
same
regulatory
agencies
and
get
additional
approvals
to
change
or
expand
anything
on
the
site.
E
C
I
can
tell
you
that
some
states,
it
look,
it's
a
complicated
answer
and
I
don't
want
to
go
down
a
big
rabbit
hole.
Some
states
are
50
million
dollars.
Some
are
750
billion
dollars.
I
was
trying
to
find
a
sweet
spot
that
was
slightly
more
actually
than
that
number
and
the
state
through
the
same
math,
and
they
might
be
quite
a
bit
smarter,
especially
the
dec
director
who's.
Quite
a
bit
smarter
than
I
am
I'm
quite
sure,
has
figured
out
that
that
that
this
would
go.
C
It
was
going
to
be
the
sweet
sun
spot
necessary
to
attract
data
centers
to
the
state
of
connecticut,
that's
his
job
to
bring
the
business
in,
and
he
thought
I
was
a
little
too
aggressive.
I
think
at
that,
but
he's
he's
been
great
to
work
with
so
has
innovations
so
has
the
governor's
office
so
has
the
legislature.
So
yes,
they
they
are
ready
to
go.
Okay,.
E
A
A
I
I
want
to
call
you
all
right.
You
know
what
this
is
not
an
interrogation
question.
Do
you
have
a
question
for
him
to
respond
to,
but
you're
going
to
go
through
a
list?
I
can
see
what
you're
doing
we're
trying
to
get
everyone
here
to
be
able
to
ask
questions
and
not
to
take
over
a
position.
So
ask
the
question
and
then
you
may
sit
down
and
we'll
go
to
our
next
question
after
that.
Please.
Q
C
Q
C
A
A
The
town
council
asked
both
the
conservation
commission
and
the
economic
development
commission
to
have
a
forum
to
be
able
to
have
the
presentation
and
have
questions.
Clearly
it
says
questions
with
comments,
so
we
limit
it
to
two
minutes
to
allow
everyone
to
have
a
premise,
but
it's
not
to
take
the
stage
and
make
a
whole
presentation
simple.
As
that
we
have
other
people
to
speak.
Also.
Q
Q
C
C
A
E
C
Okay,
we've
covered
a
lot
of
this
in
bits
and
pieces.
The
building
is
fully
contained
within
its
own
concrete
bunker,
and
nothing
else
goes
outside
of
that
area.
So
there
will
be
no
leaching.
There
will
be
no
diesel,
there
will
be
no
anti-freezes.
There
will
be
no
batteries.
There
will
be.
It
won't
be
anything
out
of
that
footprint.
C
Data
centers
again
high
asset
class
financed
the
they're
not
allowed
to
do
any
of
that
anyway,
in
the
marketplace,
this
isn't
going
to
be
some
kind
of
a
a
sloppy
situation.
This
is
going
to
be
the
probably
one
of
the
best
buildings
we'll
ever
see
in
the
region
built
as
far
as
as
far
as
size,
fire
safety,
clean
operation
least
amount
of
parking
least
amount
of
total
footprint
that
would
be
allowable
on
a
site.
That's
173,
acres,
total,
okay,.
W
Thank
you.
So
my
question
is
about
the
utilities.
I
live
smack
dab
in
the
middle
right,
where
all
those
trees
are
and
water
goes
on,
flanders,
as
far
as
ensign
and
stops,
and
for
22
years
we've
been
living
in
that
home.
We're
just
curious
because
that
also
butts
groton
utilities,
which
is
you
know,
the
inexpensive
water
and
all
that
good
stuff.
But
we
have
a
well
and
it's
just
curious
if
this
does
happen,
and
it
comes
down
to
flanders,
the
access
road
looks
like
it's
going
to
be.
W
Probably
within
my
house
range
and
the
water
come
up.
Is
the
water
going
to
continue
up
to
where
we
can
hook
on
and
be
part
of
the
sewer
and
pay?
For
I
mean,
unfortunately,
we
have
to
pay
for
the
water,
but
it's
better
than
what
I've
got
right
now
and
is
the
opportunity
for
the
company
to
hook
us
on.
W
As
for
our
inconvenience
of,
what's
going
to
be
happening
with
the
traffic
which,
if
you
sit
on
my
lawn
on
a
saturday
you'll
see
50
cars
go
by
to
the
transfer
station,
dropping
all
their
crap
along
the
road
anyway.
So
but
my
question
is,
is:
is
the
utilities
going
to
go
continue
up
flanders
and
stop
right
there
at
95
and
or
the
the
neighborhood
there
where
we
also
lose
power
almost
every
day?
There's
37
of
us
that
keep
getting
knocked
out.
Are
we
going
to
be
able
to
have
those
utilities
upgraded
as
well.
C
I
don't
know
until
I
talk
to
the
town
and
the
engineer
about
which
specific
houses,
the
utilities
are
going
to
be
in
front
of-
I
just
don't
know,
but
I
can
find
out
pretty
quickly
and
we
can
address
that
during
the
planning
and
zoning
meeting.
If
you
come
to
that
meeting,
we
can
discuss
how
that's
going
to
be
handled
and
I'll
have
plan.
You
know
I
expect
by
that
time
we'll
have
a
plan
done.
X
C
F
P
Y
E
C
Question
adaptive,
reuse
of
other
properties,
it's
been
tried,
data
centers
at
the
hyper
scale
level
aren't
doing
it.
In
fact,
if
you
look
back
at
the
new
britain
data
center
that
has
been
in
the
paper
for
the
last
five
years,
it
keeps
raising
and
raising
his
head
since
the
data
tax
incentive
they
want
to
do
it.
It
turns
out
that
that
was
an
opportunity
zone
deal
and
they
wanted
to
take.
They
wanted
to
keep
the
existing
brick
building
and
no
one
would
come
the
the
companies
won't
come
in
to
us.
C
You
know
to
a
wet
old,
brick
building.
They
want
brand
new
because
it
has
to
be
insured
and
that's
a
big
part
of
this
process.
So
the
insurance
piece
ties
in
so
completely
that
they're
going
to
have
to
take
that
building
down
and
build
a
brand
new
building
anyway.
So
that's
the
reason
you
really
can't
do
adaptive
changes
for
data
centers.
A
Z
Z
Z
Z
So
unfortunately,
why
that,
while
that
was
happening,
thomas
quinn
and
his
associates
just
destroyed
verdi
group,
there
was
a
theft
of
intellectual
property
and
again,
when
you're
dealing
in
a
position
like
that
you're
not
paying
attention
to
your
company
you're,
paying
attention
to
the
person
you're
caring
for
now
tom.
I.
AA
P
B
E
C
E
S
S
Everything
that's
right.
Well,
I
listened
to
you
on
february,
8th
and
I've
listened
to
you
tonight
and
I
don't
seem
to
be
getting
any
answers,
but
vague
percentages
and
ndas.
My
question
is:
why
don't
you
come
back
when
you
have
a
plan?
Even
wrestler
had
a
plan
that
he
could
explain
to
us.
Okay,
I'm
not
going
to
respond
to
that.
C
The
difference
between
his
project
and
this
project
is
the
grant
has
done
a
full
check.
I
am
not
anything.
Look
at
that,
that's
just
the
poke.
I
read.
I
read
your
blogs.
I
read
everything
tom.
I
I
followed
you.
I
followed
you.
What
plan?
Would
you
like
to
see
the
financial
plan?
I
would
like
to
see
a
plan
of
the
project,
the
plan
of
the
project.
C
C
Y
Just
to
follow
that
up,
the
draft
agreement
that
you
have
of
the
town
says
that
you're
using
tier
four
generators,
but
with
tier
2
back
up.
But
you
have
said
to
us
that
you're
using
tier
4,
the
reason
that's
a
concern.
It's
tier
2
are
much
dirtier
than
tier
4,
and
would
you
consider
using
only
tier
four.
C
I
didn't
make
that
decision,
the
it
came
down
from
the
state
and
that's
what
they
wanted
us
to
do
it
is.
We
could
use
all
tier
two
engines
if
we
wanted
to.
It
follows
all
the
regular
state
and
federal
regulations.
So
so
you
understand
how
this
tier
thing
works.
It's
not
mystical!
If
a
car,
if
a
car
has
a
certain
level
of
emissions,
it's
on
the
sticker.
C
The
generators
are
on
the
sticker.
You
take
the
sticker
from
whatever
that
emission
number
is,
and
it
tells
you
how
many
hours
you
can
or
cannot
operate
that
over
the
course
of
a
period
of
time.
So
it's
an
engineering
formula,
so
the
tier
two
are
designed
as
strictly
standby
separately
permitted
and
they
only
come
on
at
the
at
a
power
outage.
Tier
four
are
going
to
be
the
ones
that
would
you
would
use
if
they're
used
for
peak
shaving
and
only
certain
people,
if
it's
a
co-location
environment
will
peak
shave
anyway.
So
that's
my
answer.
C
Y
C
Right
so
yeah,
so
what
happens
is
when
we
get
to
brown
out
times
and
everyone's
worried.
The
utility
calls
and
says
be
prepared
to
take
your
electricity
from
that
data
center
offline,
and
then
we
take
it
offline
and
it's
usually
an
hour
two
hours.
Something
like
that.
It's
a
very
small
spike,
but
you
have
to
shave
it
so
by
the
way
groton
does
that
already
right
folks
are
already
doing
it.
AB
C
Good
question:
it
costs
multiples
of
what
it
costs
to
purchase
electricity
to
turn
a
generator
on
per
kilowatt
minute,
it's
very
expensive,
so
you
only
use
it
sparingly
where
you
need
to,
and
there
are
formulas
and
engineers
that
do
this.
There
are
asset
managers
that
would
be
working
with
the
utility
company,
our
asset
managers,
a
hyperscaler
asset
manager,
and
they
would
decide
collectively
it
does
not
pay
to
leave
a
generator
on,
and
your
own
utility
company
can
tell
you
that
you
do.
You
have
to
shut
it
off
as
quickly
so.
C
Okay,
we
can't
sell
it
back
to
the
grid
by
agreement
with
all
the
utility
companies
that
we've
talked
to
you
can't
we're
not
you
can't
sell
it
back.
We
have
no
intention
of
selling
it
back,
we're
not
doing
that.
No,
it's
we're
just
using
it
for
the
period
and
it's
only
for
proprietary
use
behind
the
meter.
B
AC
AC
Cost
that
would
occur
to
them
that
they
are
not
necessarily
having
the
income
their
retirement
year.
So
that's
a
financial
hardship
for
them.
That's
potential.
You
mentioned
260
to
160
employees
and
three
different
shifts,
so
that's
50
to
80
cars,
every
shift
added
to
our
two-lane
road,
not
to
mention
this
is
post
construction,
so
the
construction
obviously
is
going
to
be
pose
a
a
huge
traffic
problem
on
our
road.
AC
AC
C
N
C
We
will
make
sure
that
there
is
no
light
pollution
out
there.
It
doesn't
have
to
be.
These
will
not
be
hospital-sized
overhead
lights.
The
people
go
into
the
building
with
biometry,
they
don't
come
out
for
eight
hours.
There
will
be
80
cars
total,
not
per
shift
80
cars
total
for
the
day
in
a
32
megawatt
configuration
160.
If
you
have
a
hyper
scale
building
roughly
these
are
rough
numbers.
It
depends
on
how
many
they
hire
I'm
not
in
control
of
that.
So.
AC
M
AC
C
Okay,
I'd
like
to
answer
the
question:
chandler
road,
arizona,
chandler,
arizona
that
is
probably
the
worst
example
of
a
data
center.
Ever
it's
probably
a
20
year
old
or
18
year,
old
video.
You
can
look
it
up
and
find
out
for
yourself
exactly.
It
could
be
15.
the
the
most
first
of
all,
it's
built
next
to
a
residential
area.
They
permitted
it
in
that
town.
Go
ahead,
we're
residential
yeah,
but
not
I'm
talking
on
the
residential
area.
C
AC
C
Correct
it's
in
the
agreement
and
it's
going
to
be
closer
up
to
the
highway.
They
use
the
highway
sound
as
a
one-week
study,
with
a
with
a
post
high
up
in
the
air
height
of
the
data
center
building,
and
they
do
an
ambient
noise
study.
It's
all
formulaic
and
the
and
the
engineers
do
this
and
it
we've
it's
all.
On
the
agreement.
C
C
C
So
this
will
require,
as
I
said
earlier,
some
type
of
a
crane
at
the
height
of
the
estimated
height
of
the
building
and
it'll,
be
taking
sound
from
the
95
for
like
a
week's
time,
and
then
they
set
a
baseline
level
and
then
they
build
the
the
engineers
then
have
to
build
it
around
it.
If,
if
the
building
doesn't
operate
to
that
spec,
you
have
to
go
back
to
the
town,
they
have
to
get
it
fixed
within
a
period
of
time
and
so
forth.
C
But
I
can
tell
you:
this
is
hyperscale
data
business
they're,
going
to
have
the
best
engineers
out
there
and
they're
going
to
know
they're
not
going
to
build
a
multi-hundred
million
dollar
building
on
a
guess,
they're
going
to
have
this
figured
out
for
the
sound
attenuation
or
they
could
tell
us
we're
not
going
to
build.
There
is.
AC
C
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
you.
There
are
state,
there
are
state,
sound
standards
and
I
don't
know
if
groton
has
their
own
max
decibel
standard,
but
this
will
be
way
less
than
what
the
town
has,
because
the
town
has
set
up
for
you
know
parties
and
outdoor
events
and
so
forth.
So
this
will
be
a.
This
will
be
a
different
setup
and
please
read
the
host
fee
agreement.
Instructions-
and
I
invite
you
to
please
come
to
the
the
planning
and
zoning
meeting
we'll
try
to
have
that
better
addressed.
AC
B
Everyone
I
want
to
appreciate
the
civility
so
far,
but
I
want
to
remind
you
that
this
is
not
a
deliberative
body,
we're
not
making
decisions
here.
Mr
quinn
has
volunteered
to
come
here
and
answer
questions,
so
he's
not
obliged
to
answer
any
questions
he's
not
obliged
to
even
stay
any
further.
So
if
we
want
to
get
through
here,
we've
got
another
10
or
15
people
that
have
signed
up
for
questions.
B
B
AD
AE
AE
AE
C
None
of
that's
up
to
me.
It's
all
up
to
the
utility
company.
We
do
have
a
utility
corridor
guesstimate
at
this
point
and
that's
all
we
could
do
because
the
utility
is
putting
together
the
last
of
it
but
along
the
highway
is
where
it's
going
to
come
up.
The
utility
company
has
a
corridor
there.
There
is
a
piece
of
land
that
we
have
now
under
contract.
It's
not
shown
on
the
plan
just
under
contract.
AE
C
C
The
fiber
is
underground,
it
goes
to
a
building
between
the
building
that
we're
proposing
in
the
edge
of
the
highway
for
a
switching
area,
and
it
goes
underground
and
it
actually
gets
into
the
center
of
I-95
and
that
isn't
exactly
located.
Yet
people
don't
want
to
tell
you
where
that
is
for
real
reasons,
but
it
will
be
in
the
center
of
that
area.
Hook-Up
to
me.
AE
C
AE
AE
C
Okay,
I
appreciate
your
comments
I
sincerely
do.
I
will
tell
you
that
deep
has
to
review
these.
We
have
to
meet
all
the
state
standards
and
you
know
they're
very
strict
they're
going
to
be
looking
at
these
same
issues
after
we
get
this
done
after
we
get
envelope
plan
approval,
then
we
would
submit
all
of
that
to
deep
for
approval
and
you're
welcome
to
come
to
the
both
the
inland
waterways
meetings,
the
zoning
meetings
and
you
can
comment
directly
to
deep-
they
have
a
they're
going
to
be
very
strict
with
us
at
deep.
AE
B
AB
AB
One
thing
I
thought
you
said
was
that
you're
I
get
it
that
you're
measuring
the
sound
level
over
time
from
I-95
and
that
the
building
the
data
center
that
it
would
not
produce
a
higher
level
of
sound
than
that
then.
The
other
thing
I
thought
I
heard
you
say
was
that
you
have
the
sound
level
of
95
and
that
the
data
center
would
not
add
more
to
that.
Those
are
two
very
different.
Let
me
just
be.
C
Clear
about
that,
what
it
says
is
in
the
in
the
groton
agreement
is
that
we
have
to
come
back
to
the
sound
and
work
with
the
town
on
soundless.
So
let's
say
we're
two
decibels
above
the
highway
level
or
we
don't
get
the
the
job
built.
Well,
we
have
to
go
to
the
town
and
we
have
to
go
through
that.
So
there
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
we're
asking
for
a
little
bit.
No
one's
got
studies.
C
The
town
doesn't
have
studies
we're
going
to
pay
for
these
studies,
so
we
need
to
get
some
baseline
information
again.
This
is
zoning,
and
then
we
have
to
get
through
the
process
you're
going
to
be
reading
about
it
daily
in
the
papers,
I'm
sure
and
blogs-
and
you
know,
you'll-
be
able
to
comment
through
the
process,
but
no
one's
trying
to
get
around
anything.
This
is
going
to
be
a
very
scientific
study.
C
Frankly,
I'm
not
sure
of
exactly
how
that
study
is
going
to
come
out
and
we've
consulted
with
some
sustainability
officers
of
the
companies
that
we're
trying
to
attract
here
and
they're,
not
sure
how
it's
going
to
come
out
yet,
but
we're
hopeful
that
we
can
get
the
get
it
to
where
it
needs
to
be,
and
it's
groton's
decision
at
that
point
whether
or
not
they
want
it
or
not.
It's
not
mine.
C
Frequency
range,
that's
a
good
question.
I
have
no
idea
what
frequency
range,
but
let
me
give
you
an
example:
they
have
they'll
have
a
an
air
conditioner
on
a
roof
and
they
have
a
panel
that
actually
sends
the
sound
either
straight
up
or
in
the
direction
of
ambient
sound,
which
should
be
over
95,
for
example.
So
there
are
ways
to
do
this.
That
engineers
spend
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
on
to
get
these
things
to
where
they
need
to
be.
I
don't
have
that
information
here
tonight.
C
X
C
You
build
a
very
small
data
center
up
to
you
have
to
you:
have
to
pay
the
town
at
least
500
000,
no
matter
what
you
build.
If
you
build
over
16
megawatts
or
greater,
which
is
a
data
center,
probably
four
times,
I'm
guessing
four
times
by
how
many
servers
you'd
put
in
four
times
the
size
of
this
room.
You'd
have
to
pay,
or
maybe
six
times
the
size
of
this
room.
You'd
have
to
go
up
to
a
million
dollars
and
then
and
then
you
hit
32
megawatts.
C
C
Well,
let
me
just
give
you
an
example
in
other
towns,
I
didn't
do
it,
the
town
did
they
looked
at
the
industrial
site?
They
figured
out
the
square
footage
of
the
site
for
industrial
use.
They
figured
out
the
square
footage
of
the
building
with
the
parking
all
against
current
zoning,
and
this
is
multiples
of
that,
but
you
have
to
factor
in
the
total
economic
benefit,
which
is
the
utility
profit
as
long
along
with
the
the
municipal
fee
of
a
million
and
a
half.
C
C
X
X
AB
C
Say
there
have
been
this
many
power
outage
for
this
long
over
the
last
20
years.
This
is
the
mean
we're
going
to
store
20
more
diesel
than
the
mean
if
something
like
this
will
happen,
and
then
they
will
actually
create
and
order
tank
sizes
to
do
just
that,
so
they
don't
have
to
be
refilled
in
the
course
of
a
power
outage
now.
In
an
extreme
case,
I
was
around
during
hurricane
bob
in
the
early
90s
right
and
I
was
out
on
cape
cod,
then,
and
we
were
without
power
for
nine
days.
C
That's
a
real,
tough
situation
to
be
in
for
a
data
center
and
in
fact
there
have
been
there's
a
major
data
center.
I
don't
want
to
be
quoted
for
throwing
the
names
around
that
has
major
failures
even
down
in
north
virginia,
where
there's
power
there's
issues,
so
we
want
to
do
the
best
we
can
in
the
region.
You
know
we're
fighting
a
few
things
here:
we're
fighting
the
proximity
to
the
nuclear
power
plant,
because
some
data
centers
don't
want
to
be
there,
but
in
other
areas
their
nuclear
power
plants
very
close
to
data
center.
C
B
AF
I
just
wanted
to
point
out.
You
have
also
heard
this
that
there
are
numerous
streams
and
wetlands
included
in
this
property,
as
you
can
see
by
those
dark
red
blue,
I'm
sorry
sign
and
they
are
under
the
national
wetlands
inventory,
part
of
the
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
service
and
I'd
like
to
know
if
you
have
talked
to
them
about
it
and
then
what
they
say
about
it
and
in
addition,
I
am
very
concerned
with
the
impact
on
the
flanders
road
community.
AF
We
do
all
have
wells
and
you're
talking
about
a
24
7
business
with
increased
traffic
noise
from
the
continuous
cooling
fans
and
everything
else,
and
I
don't
know
obviously
you're
not
real
familiar
with
flanders
road,
because
we're
not
near
95
and
part
of
the
problem
on
flanders.
Road
is
the
traffic
that
we
now
already
receive,
and
I
want
to
know
what
you're
going
to
do
about
that.
How
you're
going
to
help
out
and
making
sure
there
are
no,
no
one
dies
from
all
the
accidents
with
all
that
traffic.
C
AF
C
There
will
be
traffic,
there
will
be
a
couple
thousand
jobs
for
about
a
year
or
so
some
of
these
new
construction
jobs
that
are
running
for
the
hyperscale
data
centers
are
going
as
quick
as
11
to
13
months
very
fast.
These
are
big
buildings
and
some
are
taking
longer,
depending
on
not
just
the
construction
company
but
depend
on
the
complication
of
the
design.
If
it's
co-location,
so
it
could
be
anywhere
for
about,
I
would
say
roughly
conservatively
between
a
year
and
a
year
and
a
half
of
construction,
there
will
be
traffic
and
they
will
have.
C
O
One
thing
you
said:
the
building
materials
and
they're
gonna
everything
are
gonna,
come
off
the
exit
onto
flanders,
road.
I
have
you
been
up
there.
There
is
no
exit
on
flanders.
No,
I
know
okay,
okay,
this
all
sounds
real
good.
I
I
mean
you
saying:
go
on
the
website.
Go,
go!
Look
on
this
go!
Where
is
the
stuff
here?
O
O
O
O
O
AG
AG
AG
Okay,
that's
that's!
That's
what
I'm
that's
what
I'm
getting
at
to
put
it
into
context
south
fork,
wind
set
to
be
shipped
at
a
state
pier
in
new
london
132
megawatts
you're,
talking,
potentially
larger,
significantly
larger
than
that
next
question
the
servers.
How
often
do
they
have
to
be
replaced?
It
depends.
AG
C
AG
AG
C
C
Let
me
give
you
the
answer
and
don't
cut
me
off.
I
met
with
eversource.
I
met
with
dominion,
the
nuclear
people
I
met
with
orsted,
I
met
with
the
owner
of
the
montville
power
plant
that
isn't
built
yet
I
have
met
with
every
energy
provider
in
the
region,
including
every
municipal
utility
in
the
state.
So
what
is
the
challenge
you're
trying
to
get
out
of
me
here?
What
do
you
want
to
know?
Well.
AG
You
answered
my
question.
It
seems
as
though
these
data
centers
are
a
very
sweet
deal
for
the
energy
producers.
We
heard
earlier
from
a
number
of
the
labor
unions
that
it's
a
very
sweet
deal
for
them.
I
would
question
whether
it
is
for
us,
the
public
now
my
final
question,
which
I'm
going
to
turn
and
ask
the
people
in
this
room.
No
we're.
AG
AG
AH
Welcome
to
groton,
so
let
me
just
get
over
here
you're
up
in
this
area
here
yeah.
I
think
that's
that's
right!
Right!
I'm
I
just
generally
in
this
area,
just
off
the
map
here
is
ring
drive
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
airplane
flew
into
a
house
down.
There
was
actually
the
father-in-law
of
joe
delacruz,
our
state
representative.
AH
This
is
on
the
direct
brought
new
london
airport
about
down
here
somewhere,
you
are
on
the
flight
path
of
the
rotten
london
airport.
We've
been
struggling
for
years
to
bring
in
commercial
planes
into
that
airport.
So
my
question
is
I'd
like
to
know
how
this
would
affect
possibly
future
development
at
the
airport.
AH
AH
C
You
thank
you.
The
fire
department
has
previously
given
a
letter
to
the
town
some
long
time
ago,
but
I
think
they
can
speak
for
themselves
that
we're
using
this
particular
type
of
system.
That's
non-pollutant
with
regard
we
don't
we
don't
design
around
planes
crashing
into
buildings,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
all
of
that.
But
I'll
tell
you
that
the
data
center
does
sit
down
a
little
bit
lower
from
the
highway.
C
We
don't
know
how
low
with
final
grading,
so
I'm
not
going
to
be
pinned
down,
but
it
does
sit
down
lower
when
you
drive
by
the
highway.
You
see
a
very
interesting
happen
on
before
exit
or
around
exit
88.
Here
you
see
the
topography
go
up
and
down.
Yes,
there
is
going
to
be
grading
in
the
number
of
acres
necessary
to
set
the
building
it's
going.
If
the
town
approves
it,
it's
going
to
be
graded
in
that
level,
the
building
won't
be
sticking
up
like
a
like.
C
AI
Thank
you
very,
very
much
good
evening.
Everyone
so
yeah,
I
have
got
to
say
I've
heard
a
real
lack
of
specificity
in
the
presentation
tonight.
Lauren
gothier
asked
a
really
good
question.
I
thought,
which
you
chose
not
to
give
any
specifics,
which
was
what
would
the
value
in
taxes
be
of
this
enterprise?
K
C
Let
me
be
crystal
clear:
it
depends
on
the
size
of
the
building
that
the
town
of
groton
finally
approves.
Then
you
multiply
by
the
mill
rate
right
and
you
figure
out
what
it
would
be.
But
let
me
give
you
a
rough
example:
if
a
32
megawatt
building
went
out
there
based
on
the
tax
rate
rough
example,
it
would
be
six
million
dollars
a
year.
C
Don't
get
any
of
that?
No
rotten
gets
a
data
center
because
I
don't
get
any
of
that.
Groton
gets
a
data
center
because
you
need
to
meet
four
national
market
market
metrics
to
bring
a
data
center
regulation,
tax
incentives,
cost
of
utility
and
fiber.
If
you
don't
have
those
they
don't
come
to
your
area,
but.
AI
My
other
ones,
I'm
just
wondering
with
that
I
mean
having
an
industry
like
this
cost
services.
We
get
lots
of
presentations
from
our
office
of
planning
and
they
like
to
talk
about
what
kind
of
contribution
these
projects
have
towards
our
grand
list.
They
tout
that,
but
there's
a
real
lack
of
what
the
costs
or
the
burden
that
the
town
bears
on
the
other
side,
and
so
it
sounds
like
there's
going
to
be
major
road
public
works
infrastructure
needed
on
flanders.
Road.
If
you
have
a
thousand
people
driving
to
work
there
plus
dump
trucks.
AI
So
I
am
curious
and
I
imagine
it
hasn't
been
done
yet,
but
I
am
curious
about
estimates
on
the
cost
of
services
for
this
entity
just
to
see
if
it
you
know
we're
getting.
The
town
sounds
like
it's
getting
a
1.5
million
dollar
post
fee,
but
you
know
is
that
going
to
bear
the
cost
of
you
know
the
infrastructure,
the
fire
all.
C
C
Are
no
plans
for
decommissioning?
I
just
said
earlier:
data
centers
are
the
highest
number
one
asset
class
in
the
world,
in
other
words,
they're
very
valuable.
This
particular
location
because
of
its
proximity
to
one
tenth
of
the
population
in
the
united
states
very
likely
over
30
years.
I
can't
tell
you
what's
going
to
happen
in
30
years,
but
likely
it
would
be
fully
remodeled
on
the
original
footprint
with
permission
from
planning
and
zoning,
and
they
would
continue
on.
C
There
haven't
been
any
data
centers
that
have
been
chucked
off
to
the
side
and
abandoned
in
the
united
states,
they're
all
being
remodeled,
even
the
old
aol
centers
in
manassas
virginia
the
the
this
old
metal
building
that
people
thought
was
not
valuable,
it's
all
being
rebuilt
into
a
new
data
center.
These
sites
are
extremely
valuable
for
a
few
reasons.
The
number
one
reason
is
major:
electricity
has
already
been
brought
to
the
site,
which
is
a
huge
expense,
so
it's
it's.
It
gives
a
good
incentive
to
anyway.
AJ
AJ
C
So
let
me
let
me
just
let
me
just
lay
this
out
for
you:
I've
conceptualized
this
deal
over
the
last
few
years.
I've
put
together
a
program.
We
have
jv
joint
venture
opportunities
currently
in
the
marketplace.
If
we
can
get
this
package
approved.
That
means
that
we,
our
team
and
our
team
is
a
lot
bigger
than
the
people
that
are
here
tonight.
Some
are
in
florida
and
out
west
that
team
of
electrical
consultants
and
engineers
and
so
forth,
stay
along
with
the
deal
for
the
entire
length
of
the
negotiated
deal.
C
So
the
deal
would
work
like
this.
We
get
our
approvals,
we
go
to
our
jv
partners
and
we
say
one
or
two
of
them
and
we
say
here's
what
we
have.
Let's
make
this
deal,
we
get
a
term
sheet.
We
then
take
the
term
sheet
back
to
the
planning
and
zoning
and
say
look:
we've
got
this
list.
They
want
this
list.
Do
you
think
we
can
accommodate
a
building?
That's
51
square
feet
instead
of
53
or
whatever.
C
AJ
AJ
C
This
was
done
specifically
at
the
state
level.
This
was
not
my
decision.
I
went
around
to
all
of
the
various
entities
and
I
got
stopped
at
kaneka
council
on
municipalities.
They
said
wait
a
minute.
We
don't
want
you
wasting,
planning
and
zoning
time
for
a
year
in
permitting,
unless
you
have
your
business
deal
done.
First
with
the
town,
we
took
those
comments.
C
We
brought
it
back
to
former
attorney
general
of
state
and
he
was
working
with
us
at
the
time
and
then
you
know
it
was
redrafted
because
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
business
deal
was
done
now.
If
this
gets
stopped
in
zoning
or
the
zoning
is
so
restrictive
that
it
doesn't
pay
to
build
a
data
center,
then
that's
where
it
stops.
AD
AD
C
Okay,
so
I'll
answer
your
question
and
I'll
give
you
an
example
in
another
town,
closer
to
new
york
for
one
year
a
company
was
in
there
trying
to
get
something
put
together.
If
you
do
your
homework,
you'll
find
out
that
it
was
a
major
one
of
the
top
five
companies
and
they
don't
come
in
often
under
their
own
name.
I
can
tell
you
honestly:
I
do
not
work
for
any
of
those
companies.
C
I
can
tell
you
that
we
have
interest
at
levels
that
will
finance
the
entire
project,
whether
or
not
we
as
jv
partners
do
anything
else,
but
go
through
our
stat
or
statutory
permitting
for
town
state
federal.
By
the
way,
all
this
has
to
go
through
the
federal
government
and
the
epa
as
well.
So
I
appreciate
your
comments,
mr
reels.
We
we
we,
I
can
assure
you
that
this
project
will
be
well
funded.
C
C
The
property
is
bonded
by
willis
towers,
watson
or
lloyd's
of
london,
all
of
it
from
the
from
the
from
the
road
up,
flanders,
road
for
the
water
and
sewer
to
the
roadways
within
the
project,
to
the
building
financing
itself
and
mr
reels,
you
should
know
that
that
is,
you
know
about
bonding
and
financing
buildings.
So
it's
built
the
same
way
and
yes,
it's
a
large
building,
so
in
other
words
no
one's
taking
a
chance
or
any
risk.
C
They
have
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
done
and
when
it's
done
the
project's
funded
and
it's
built
you
can
be
assured.
Please
just
look
it
up.
You'll
see
how
many
beta
projects
have
failed
in
the
united
states.
You
can
go
through
all
of
this
stuff,
it's
all
available
online.
If
you
spend
a
half
hour,
you'll
learn
a
lot
about
it.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
ladies
and
gentlemen.
It's
now
eight
o'clock
we're
going
to
close
the
meeting.
I
want
to
thank
you,
mr
quinn,
for
you
for
your
participation
and
volunteering
to
come
guys.
This
is
not.
This
is
just
the
very
beginning.
There'll
be
the
opportunities
before
the
planning
and
zoning
before
the
town
council.