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From YouTube: Groton Golf Advisory Board 4/5/21
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Golf Advisory Board - Shennecossett Golf Course. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/meeting/details/1310
A
So
today
is
march
8th
march
april
5th.
I'm
gonna
call
the
meeting
to
order.
A
B
A
A
C
A
Second,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
minutes,
as
amended
hi
I
posed.
This-
is
really
odd.
It's
just
two
of
us.
I
know
nobody
opposed
men
is
accepted
as
amended.
B
A
B
A
All
right
hearing,
none
we'll
move
to
the
golf
course
report
for
february.
A
F
F
Last
fiscal
year
was
a
record
year
by
eric,
I
think,
mark
eric.
I
think
it
was
140k,
I
think,
beyond
what
we
had
done
before.
Yes,
so
we're
just
killing
it,
and
as
of
today,
from
from
the
beginning
of
the
year
to
today,
we
have
49
new
members.
F
Cindy
it's
all
across
okay,
we
have
quite
a
few
juniors
but
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
the
associate
and
associate
plus
we're
seeing
regular
adults.
It's
a
seniors
we're
seeing
it
right
across
the
board.
B
F
F
F
You
know
some
some
clubs
when
they
reach,
like
the
350
mark,
they
start
saying.
Well,
I
think
we're
kind
of
reaching
saturation
as
far
as
members
go.
We've
never
had
to
have
that
conversation
because
I
think
it
was.
It
was
in
98
that
our
previous
high
water
mark
was,
I
think
it
was
298.
F
A
So
I
think
I
think
your
first
indicator
is
going
to
be
people
complaining
that
they
can't
get
tee
times.
F
No
that's
right
and
when,
when,
when
members
sign
up,
we
stress
to
them,
we
stress
to
them
that
that
they
have
a
benefit
of
a
jump
on
the
the
public
one
week
ahead.
They
can
call
the
shop
at
four
o'clock
and
they
can
get
one
hour
jump.
F
So
if
they
make
so,
we
stress
anytime,
a
new
member
signs
up.
We
stress
to
them
that
if
they
have
an
idea
that
they're
going
to
be
wanting
to
play
a
week
from
whatever
day
it
is
that
they're
to
get
on
the
phone
and
call
they
can
always
cancel
a
time
if
they
want
if
they
need
to
cancel.
But
that
is
a
huge
benefit
that
they
need
to
be
using
right.
A
B
F
Our
members,
our
members,
are
able
to
get
in
and
and
and
booked
their
times
and
we're
not
there.
Yet.
I
agree
with
you
margaret.
B
B
A
F
I
mean
historically,
I
mean
saturn
sunday
morning
times
before.
11
o'clock
are
more
than
90
percent
members,
so
I
mean
that's
just
the
way
it
is
we
very
few
outsiders
because
the
members
know
to
jump
on
the
times
and
even
before
we
instituted
last
year,
the
the
ability
of
the
member
to
to
call
an
hour
ahead.
F
A
Yeah,
no,
I
think
that's
good
and
the
only
thing-
and
I
think
eric
you
saw
this
too
on
twitter
about
maybe
a
month
ago,
when
we
had
our
first
really
nice
week
went
on,
especially
on
tuesday
it
was
gonna
hit
60ish
somebody
posted
on
twitter
that
they
had
tried
to
to
get
a
tee
time
at
chennai,
and
it
was
completely
sold
out
for
the
day.
A
I'm
pretty
sure
you
saw
it
too
eric,
because
I
think
I
saw
it
from
your.
Your
twitter
account.
G
Yeah
I
saw
that
that
was
actually
brad
klein
he's
a
golf
writer.
G
A
C
F
G
F
The
yogi
yogi
berra
thing
nobody
goes
to
that
restaurant
because
you
know
you
can't
get
a
you
know.
You
can't
get
a
seat.
You
can't
get
a
reservation,
so
I
mean
well.
B
C
A
Tee
time
at
cheney,
anybody
want
it.
No,
so
it's
it's
good,
stuff
and
and
you're
right.
We
just
kind
of
need
to
pay
attention
to
those
balances
and
those
things
that
we're
hearing
we
start
hearing
one
way
or
the
other
people
either
can't
get
it
to
time
when
they'd
like
to
play
in
their
season
pass
holders,
or
vice
versa,
that
the
public
is
struggling
to
to
get
a
tee
time.
Because
I
imagine
you
need
that.
We
we
need
that
public
greens
fee
in
order
to
support
the
income
and
the
revenue
here.
D
What's
the
and
eric
and
todd,
what's
the
the
best
method
to
keep
a
pulse
on,
what
people
are
saying
is
it
facebook
is.
Is
that
what
we
should
be
looking
at
or
what
you
know
where
do
frustrated
golfers
go
when
they
can't
get
tee
times
besides
part,
four.
E
G
F
A
F
No,
we
really
don't.
We
don't
really
don't
don't
book
tournaments
on
saturday
and
sunday
before
11
o'clock,
we
don't.
F
Unless,
unless,
unless
a
ladies
club
we're
new,
then
is
there,
you
know,
has
an
event
or
a
men's
club
has
an
event.
Then
they
do.
They
do
get
a
block
of
time,
but
but
those
guys
would
have
played
anyway
or
those
gals
would
have
played.
A
So
and
that's
fine,
I
mean
I
mean
no,
you
know
I
just
found
something
else
to
do,
but
because
I
couldn't
do
that
late
for
whatever
reason
so
well.
F
And
and
and
just
just
to
say,
if
somebody
calls
me,
then
a
member
calls
me
and
they
are
aced
out,
I
always
say,
come
out.
I
will
get
you,
I
will
get
them
going,
which
is
what
I
do
yeah
on
a
saturday
and
sunday
morning.
That's
those
are
my
times.
Yeah.
A
It's
I
mean
it's,
it's
it's
a
it's
one
of
these
signals
of
the
problem
that
we've
got
you've
got
if
you've
got
49
new
members,
then
that's
you
know:
that's
12
new
groups,
potentially
that
want
to
play
on
a
saturday
or
sunday
or
on
a
monday
or
a
tuesday,
or
something
like
that.
So
I
mean
it's
just
it's
just
reminding
us
that
we
need
to
pay
attention
to
things
like
that
happening.
A
And
it
would
be
interesting
to
keep
track
of
you
know
what
percentage
of
the
tea
times
get
filled
up
on
between
four
and
five
on
average,
be
interesting,
even
just
for
a
couple
days
to
figure
that
out,
but
it's
a
good.
I
mean
it's
a
good
problem,
todd!
It's
not
it's
not,
but
there's
a
it's
just
a
good
problem.
A
F
You
know
you
have
to
offer
your
members
of
value
correct
so
so
yeah
so
that
that
was
that
was
eric's
and
my
conversation
this
morning
about
at
what
point?
Does
you
know
too
many
at
what
point
does
the
number
become
too
many.
A
F
Boy,
oh
boy,
we're
killing
it
right
now,
but
I
mean
you're
right.
We
have.
We
always
have
to
be
sensitive
to
the
revenue
that's
coming
in
and
there
has
to
be
a
balance.
I
mean
if
you
have
500
members
and
you're
going
to
have
that
much
that
number
less
of
greens
fees
that
can
be
accommodated
and
and
so
yeah
there
has
to
be
a
balance
between
the
two
and
that's
why
that
kind
of
discussion
has
to
happen.
B
B
A
C
No,
I
I
I
stuck
around
with
places
that
you
know
you
can't
get
reservations
or
you
can.
You
know
what
you
know
when
to
go
or
when
not
to
go,
and
you
work
around
it.
No
problem.
Some
friends
asked
me
they
said.
Should
we
go
to
the
should
we
go
to
the
brunch
at
easter
at
the
ocean
house,
and
then
I
asked
him
and
they
said
it's
a
mad
house
that
weekend
don't
bother.
You
know
come
another
weekend
yeah,
so
you
know
you.
C
C
A
C
E
Yep
margaret
I'm
not
really
sure
about
this
question,
but
do
associate
and
associate
plus
members
have
also
shared
that
four
o'clock
time.
F
A
And
maybe
that's
something
that
we
consider
and
if
that's
a
good
point,
if
the
numbers
get
too
big,
that
could
be
a
potential
where
the
benefit
to
the
full
member
full
player
is
four
o'clock
and
the
benefit
to
the
associate
and
associate
plus
is
that
they
can
pay.
They
can
play
anytime,
but
they
start
making
tea
times
at
five
or
four
thirty,
something
it's
just
for
something
to
consider
for
the
future.
B
B
D
So
we
have
been
busy
letting
people
know
about
our
the
flexibility
in
memberships,
flexibility,
meaning
they
don't
have
to
sign
up
by
the
end
of
march
for
the
season
to
kick
off
at
april
1st
they
there's
flexibility,
we've
been
letting
people
know
about
that.
We've
sent
out
an
email
with
the
new
rates
to
11
000
unique
subscribers.
D
D
We
did
a
series
of
six
different
posts,
one-
and
this
was
back
in
march,
one
focused
on
women's
histories
month
and
talked
about
glenna
collette
var,
and
you
know
that
she's
on
the
or
in
the
u.s
golf
hall
of
fame-
and
there
was
also
some
facebook
posts
about
memberships
and
jessica,
said
to
me
that
we've
it
since
january
to
march,
we
had
the
the
most
significant
increase
in
facebook
likes.
We
picked
up
108
likes
and
we
are
currently
at
1486
followers.
D
Yes
yep,
so
we
are,
and
we
will
continue
to
remind
people
on
a
monthly
basis
that
their
memberships
are
their
citizens
pass
is
coming
due,
so
we'll
be
doing
that
now,
I
think
every
single
month,
because
I
think
we're
getting
new
members
every
single
month
all
year
long.
So
we
will
continue
to
do
that.
Just
to
remind
folks
about
that.
D
Perfect
so
yeah,
so
you
know
todd
said
this:
there's
a
churn:
every
year
it's
usually
around
10,
so
it
will
be
interesting
to
see
to
you
know,
keep
track
of
that
to
see
if
that
remains
about
the
same.
A
D
Yeah
one
thing
we
are
seeing
is
some
of
those
seasoned
pass
holders
whose
membership
is
not
does
not
come
up
until
may
or
june.
I
think
we're
they're
already
signing
up
ahead
of
time.
So,
depending
on
how
many
sign
up
in
advance,
we
may
see
a
drop
off
in
the
number
of
memberships,
because
people
are
kind
of
signing.
There
may
be
a
bubble
where
it's
higher
in
the
front
and
then
it
tapers
off,
because
everybody
was
anxious
to
sign
up
again,
even
though
they
didn't
really
have
to.
A
And
actually
the
emails,
how
are
they
going
out?
Somebody
manually
looking
at
the
list
and
sending.
D
Todd
sends
over
to
the
recreation
division,
the
an
updated
list
of
new
emails
every
few
weeks
and
those
get
added
to
the
list
and
they're
coded
whether
it's
golf
or
recreation,
and
we
also
have
a
list
of
those
that
have
asked
not
to-
I
guess,
they've
kind
of
unsubscribed.
D
D
A
D
Yes,
so
this
is
something
that
we
discussed
back
in
september
of
2019
eric
met
with
jenny
field
schofield,
who,
I
think
works
for
the
state
she's
the
national
register.
In
architectural
survey
coordinator.
He
gave
her
a
tour
of
the
facility,
they
had
a
lengthy
discussion
and
I
think
in
summation
she
thought
that
the
property
would
be
worthy
of
being
designated
on
the
state
register,
I'm
not
sure
about
the
national
register
and
I'm
just
reading
for
minutes.
D
She
did
say
that
the
application
process
is
lengthy
and
in
most
cases,
an
organization
will
hire
a
consultant
to
complete
the
task.
Typically,
that
costs
around
twenty
thousand
dollars
the
state
at
that
time
in
2019,
had
municipal
grant
matching
funds
where
the
town
would
have
to
contribute
around
ten
thousand
dollars
and
the
rest
of
the
money
would
come
from
the
state.
D
D
I
I
did
talk
to
greg
hanover,
who
is
the
new
director
of
public
works
because
greg
handles
most
of
the
cip
projects,
and
there
is
a
list
of
projects
to
be
completed
or
on
the
schedule
either
at
the
cart
building
or
in
some
other
place.
I
think
out
front
landscaping
out
in
front
of
the
build.
Well,
I
call
it
the
front
of
the
building.
D
Everybody
calls
it
the
back
of
the
building
on
the
on
the
the
side
of
the
building
that
faces
the
golf
course
there
you
go
yes,
so
so
he
said
that
that
was,
he
felt
like
that.
Would
money
to
pay
a
consultant
to
do
this
would
fit
under
would
fit
into
a
cip
project?
D
D
Okay,
so
I
guess
you
know
that's
my
one
concern
because
every
time
I
mention
this
to
somebody
they're
like
oh
well
now,
you're
gonna
have
to
jump
through
a
lot
more
hoops
to
do
any.
Do
any
work.
So
I
you
know,
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
not
sure
that
we
really
need
to
be
jumping
through
more
hoops
and
I'm
not
sure
what
value
being
on
the
national
historic
register
or
on
a
historic
register.
G
B
G
D
C
As
I
understand,
the
restriction
is
unwarranted
destruction,
so
we
can't
tear
the
building
down
or
you
know,
cut
half
of
it
off
or
something,
but
they
would
if
it's
on
the
once,
if
it's
on
the
state
register
is
there
are
restrictions.
If,
if
we
take
money,
if
we
get
a
grant
to
do
some
work
and
then
there's
a
there's,
a
an
easement
that
goes
with
it
over
a
period
of
time,
so
we
can't
fool
around
with
it
without
checking
with
them,
first
after
they
after
they've
paid
for
it.
C
C
And
nobody
would,
I
think,
stunnington
got
into
trouble
because
they
were
knocking
down
one
of
the
knockdown
buildings
and
do
all
kind
of
rearranging
for
the
for
their
park
on
the
on
the
river,
and
I
had
to
go
back
and
forth
and
and
rearrange
that,
but
I
don't
think
we're
gonna
have
the
money
to
like
knock
down
buildings
or
even
anything
in
the
in
the
cards
and
as
far
as
the
course
you
know,
we've
got
an
architect
and
everybody's
all
on
board
with
maintaining
the
status.
C
So
I
don't
think
there's
a
great
as
far
as
who
goes
to
the
course.
I
don't
know
people
the
survey
said
people
went
to
the
course
for
they
played
there
because
it's.
Why
do
I
keep
forgetting
the
guy's
name,
they'll
design
the
course
yeah
donald
ross
and
according
to
the
survey,
some
people
said
they
played
it
because
it
was
a
donald
rush,
so
there's
quite
a
number
of
them,
whether
it's
true
or
not?
I
don't
know,
but
you
know
national
register
people
talk
about
those
things.
C
C
I'm
kind
of
one
of
the
things
is,
apparently
they
do
have.
C
They
do
have
someone
that
will
help
you
out
with
the
with
construction
things
that
are
in
compliance
with
the
ada,
I'm
afraid
the
town
manager
took
that
to
me.
We
could
get
out
of
making
ada
compliant
bathrooms.
It's
all
part
of
the
ada,
this
historic
things
that
are
even
eligible
doesn't
necessarily
have
to.
If
I
like
it
right,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
on
the
on
the
register,
but
it'd
be
worth
dropping
a
time
to
this
guy
to
see.
C
D
C
D
C
C
So
I'm
not
sure
you
know,
and
I
don't
know
I
mean
I'd-
have
to
call
a
guy
up
and
ask
him,
but
it's
not.
It
is
part
of
the
ada,
the
historic
allowances
and
they're
part
of
it's
part
of
the
ada.
So
it's
not
it's
not
an
exception
to
the
ada.
It's
part
of
it.
C
C
Otherwise,
I
think
you
know
I
keep
thinking
this
historic
register
might
make
the
the
clubhouse
more
marketable
when
it's
when
the
when
they,
when
the
lease
the
current
lease
is
up
for
the
clubhouse,
it
might
spark
some
additional
interest.
G
G
C
C
Anyway,
counselor
board
alone
said
you're
going
to
try
to
move
this
forward,
and
I
said
I'm
tired
of
this
stuff
and
then
later
I
was
talking
yes
to
counselor
bone
gartner
and
he
says
good
idea.
He
said
get
it
started
and
then
you
know
I
I
sent
the
thing
out
and
then
he
picked
it
up
and
started
asking
questions.
He
said
he's
going
to
put
it
on
the
make
a
I'm
trying
to
get
it
on
the
agenda
of
council.
E
E
I
don't
know.
I
do
have
some
some
concerns.
E
C
E
C
Well,
what
was
it
they
thought
about?
Twenty
thousand
with
the
state
picking
up
half
of
it.
D
E
D
And
you
know
we
there
aren't
things
that
we
need
to
do
now
in
order
to
get
the
clubhouse
on
the
register.
It
would
be
evaluated
based
on
the
condition
it
is
now
in
the
history
of
the
building,
and
you
know
there
aren't,
like
all
you
there's,
not
gold
standards
that
have
to
be
met
in
order
to
be
as
far
as
the
condition
of
the
facilities
to
determine.
You
know
whether
you
qualify
it's
more
the
historical
nature
of
the
clubhouse
or
or
the
course.
E
D
E
Eric
are
you
documenting
the
history
of
the
clubhouse,
also
or
just
the
golf
course.
C
A
Yeah,
so
I
think
for
me
the
the
thing
is
doing
continuing
to
do
these
like
little
one-off
things
and
and
not
to
say
that
this
is
little
and
just
going
off,
but
it
feels
like
to
me
that
it
now
would
be
a
really
good
time
to
go
back,
and
it's
been
what
about
20
years,
since
we
last
did
a
strategic
plan
for
the
golf
course
and
or
the
building,
and
maybe
it's
time
to
do
another.
A
You
know
five
year
10-year
plan
and
part
of
that
could
be
items
like
national
register
of
historic
places,
maintaining
the
audubon,
designation
and
doing
some
of
this
other
stuff.
We
already
have
a
plan
for
improvements
to
the
course,
but
it
feels
like
from
we.
It
feels
like
we're
missing
a
kind
of
that
overall
arching
picture
of
the
where
we
want
this
golf
course
to
be
in
five
years
or
ten
years,
and
I'm
wondering
if
it
would
be
worth
doing
that
exercise
and
and
then
potentially
having
this
national
register
application
process
come
out
of
that
exercise.
A
C
It
occurred
to
me
when
I
saw
the
architects.
You
know
the
donald
ross
certified
architect
planned
that
donald
rust.
In
fact,
I
recall
asking
who
the
hell
is
donald
ross
and
then-
and
I
said,
maybe
you
can
put
it
on
the
national
register.
And
then
I
looked
around
and
found
a
couple
of
courses
that
were
on
for
oh.
C
You
know
one,
and
I
said
it
looks
like
it's
a
possibility
and
and
history
sells,
I
mean
how
many
times
you
see
this
located
in
historic,
whatever
I
upped
in
base
in
barnett's
corners,
I
look
at
their
website.
They
make
stringed
instruments
and
it
says
located
in
historic,
burnett's
corners
like
is
that
the
furnace
corners,
I
know,
yeah,
it's
it's
it's
marketing.
D
You
know
it's
certainly
not
15
16
years
ago
right,
the
you
know,
the
shelf
life
is
probably
five
to
maybe
eight
years
and
then
it's
time
to
time
to
renew
that
I
mean
we're.
A
This
I
I
mean
for
me,
it
feels
like
you
know
if
somebody
were
to
make
a
blanket
statement
that
said
in
five
years.
This
is
what
we
want.
Shana
cossett
to
be.
This
is
how
we
want
to
operate.
This
is
you
know
a
few
things
I
just
don't
feel
like.
We
quite
have
that
right
now,
except
for
the
fact
that
we've
seen
the
architect's
plan,
so
we
know
that
in
five
years
or
less
or
more,
hopefully,
less
the
course
is
going
to
be.
A
Is
going
to
be
updated
or
refreshed
to
look
like
that,
and
I
think
that's
all
something,
that's
something
that
we
all
kind
of
get
behind
and
agree
with
and
are
very
much
so
looking
forward
to
seeing
but
and
then
we'd
have
this.
But
then
it
just
still
doesn't
feel
like.
A
We
have
to
your
point,
given
that
the
lifespan
of
a
strategic
plan,
typically
five
to
eight
nine
years,
it
feels
like
we've
kind
of
lost
track
of
that
and
and
in
that
time
we've
had
several
the
world
has
gone
upside
down
twice
at
least,
and
so
you
know
things
have
changed.
The
golfing
world
has
changed.
A
A
lot
of
things
have
changed,
and
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
positioning
the
course
to
be
in
a
good
place
to
to
do
all
these
things.
The
things
that
you're
talking
about
gary
and
everything
else
for
the
next
15
20
years,
right
that
we're
doing
things
now,
as
the
stewards
of
the
course
to
to
make
sure
that
that
happens
correctly.
D
Yeah
margaret,
I
think
I
think
you
make
a
good
point
that
we
need.
We
need
an
overarching
plan
and
some
of
the
things
that
we're
talking
about
now
would
fall
under
that
plan
right
and
and
rather
than
like.
I
think
you
said
cherry
picking.
You
know
picking
this
and
picking
that,
let's,
let's
have
a
big
plan
and
decide
okay,
what
are
our
priorities?
And
I
would
agree.
B
A
A
Right
and
that
those
those
those
things
are
kind
of
the
golf
course
facilities
side
of
it,
and
I
hear
you
absolutely
agree
with
you
eric
on
that.
I
mean
that
we've
all
seen
the
the
punting
down
the
road,
but
to
have
that
kind
of
plan
to
be
able
to
go
and
say
hey.
This
is
how
this
is
where
we
see
the
golf
course
in
five
years,
we're
not
able
to
do.
I
mean
it's
not
just
you
know,
redesign
the
green
complex
on
number
four.
It's
also
how
we
operate.
A
What's
the
business
model,
look
like
you
know,
different
things
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
revenue,
diversity,
junior
golf
programs
and
other
things
going
on,
and
we
just
kind
of
I
feel
like
we
need
that
to
tie
together,
and
sometimes
with
that
case
and
people
understanding
what
the
vision
is
for
the
course
five
years
from
now,
eight
years
from
now,
whatever
the
number
is
at
least
we
would
have
that
and
be
able
to
do
it.
A
I
just
feels
like
the
last
time
we
did
and
or
that
work
was
done,
that
wasn't
even
involved
at
that
time
was
15
20
years
ago.
I've
been
living
here,
15
years
and
it
was
done
before
I
got
here.
So
it's
been
a
while,
since
we've
had
kind
of
that
cohesive
communication
of
what
we
want.
The
golf
course
to
be.
F
It's
to
apply
the
the
findings
of
the
ngf,
but
I
mean,
but
we
all
have
to
to
acknowledge
and
remember
that
the
golf
course
is
a
special
enterprise
fund
and
nothing
happens
unless
we
have
the
money,
so
we
we
only
can
pay
for
what
we
can
pay
for
and
the
other
stuff
that
we
can't
pay
for,
which
is
the
the
the
capital.
Improvements
comes
from
the
general
fund
and
that's
where
eric
says
is
kick
down
the
road
kick
down
the
road
kick
down
the
road.
F
We
are
fine
operationally
with
what
we
make
in
green's
fees,
cart
fees
season
passes,
but
but
we're
at
the
whim
of
the
general
fund
as
far
as
capital
improvements,
so
there's
no
planning
that
we
can
make.
We
can
make
any
plan
that
we
want
to
make,
but
it's
not
going
to
happen
unless
there's
the
will
of
the
rtm
and
the
town
council
to
go
ahead
and
pay
for
it.
C
Well,
my
my
career
at
the
rtm
has
been
a
certain
amount
tied
up
in
the
former
fitch
middle
school
and
getting
out
and
getting
everybody
out
of
william
seeley
and
into
fitch
mark
we'll
say
you
know
they.
They
wanted
400
000
and
then,
when
they
got
200
000
and
the
next
year
was
200
000,
I
think
they
hit
a
hundred
thousand.
You
know
it
was
awful.
A
Then,
let's
just
declare
that
and
be
done
and-
and
we
continue
on,
but
it
just
feels
like
we're
asking
for
things
like
that
to
investigate
registers
of
historic
places
and
doing
all
these
other
things
without
kind
of
an
overarching
strategy
for
where
we
want
this
course
to
be.
Not
all
of
it
requires
money.
I
mean
a
lot
of.
It
can
be
what
we
want
the
course
to
stand
for
what
kinds
of
things
were
going
on.
We've
just
come
through
an
incredibly
lucrative
year.
I
can't
imagine
that
last
year
we
even
with
that
operationally.
A
We
netted
out
at
zero
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
if
we
net
it
out
at
zero,
then
we
really
didn't
have
either
we're
not
fully
understanding
the
increasing
costs
of
the
operating
budget
or
something's
happened
that
we're
kind
of
not
seeing,
but
it
feels
like
if
we
have
a
really
lucrative
year,
put
some
safe
money
away,
but
there
should
be
potentially
some
some
funding
to
be
able
to
do
another
ngf
study
or
or
not
even
a
strategic
plan
for
the
golf
course
and
other
things,
and
so
there's
not
even
a
kind
of
a
thought
or
any
visibility
into
to
where
that
is
at
this
point
in
time,
either.
E
Yeah,
I'm
quiet,
that's
right!
No,
I
mean
I
agree
with
margaret.
We
are
doing
things
here
and
there
and
but
we've
got
outside
factors
that
influence
influence
us
and
if,
if
we
don't
have
a
plan,
then
we're
not
going
to
go
anywhere,
I
agree
with
margaret.
I
think
we
should
try
and
set
up
a
five-year
plan.
At
least
I
we've
got
all
those
plans
for
redoing.
The
golf
course
that
came
out
what
two
three
years
ago,
everything
was
nice
and
organized
year
this
year
that
everything's
there
I
mean
that's
a
start-off
point
mm-hmm.
B
C
There
are
nickels
worth
everybody's
on
the
surveys:
they
they
speak
favorably
of
the
bunkers
and
actually
it's
probably
just
one
bunker's
set
of
bunkers
that
got
redone,
but
it
has
an
impression
they
don't
look
at.
They
look
at
the
good
one
that
we
did
and
forget
about
the
one
that
we
were
going
to
do
and
didn't
do
yet.
E
Yes,
is
this
where
I
might
bring
up
something
that
I
talked
about
last
fall,
it's
kind
of
unfinished
business.
I
think,
okay,
I
I
spoke
about
mosquitoes
and
I
would
like
entered
into
the
record
tonight
that
I
talked
to
a
joe
blanchard
from
the
ledge
like
health
district,
and
he
told
me
what
they
do.
E
They
do
go
out
into
the
community,
but
not
they
wouldn't
go
out
for
the
golf
course,
but
they
would
go
out
into
individual
people's
homes
areas
and
they
would
use
a
larvicide
to
take
care
of
the
mosquitoes
in
a
particular
area
in
somebody's
yard
and
at
that
point
eric
said
that
he
would
consider
doing
something
like
that.
Don't
let
me
put
words
in
your
mouth
eric,
but
I
think
that's
what
you
said
now.
I
did
read
over
this
shinikasa
best
management
practices.
G
G
Problem
with
those
is
that
you
actually
jump
so
it
kind
of
brings
them
out
of
where
they
are.
So
you
got
to
locate
the
machine
in
a
good
spot,
but
you
could
technically
make
the
problem
worse
and
then
I'm
gonna,
I
don't
think
he's
using
them.
I'm
gonna
go
over
to
the
club
and
at
least
check
it
out
and
see
how
it
works
and
maybe
he'll.
E
E
You
might
want
to
contact
him,
though
I
mean
he's
familiar
with
it
with
the
mosquito
problems.
That's
his
area
for
the.
E
D
A
C
I
would
agree,
mom
guard
has
said
he's
he
he
initiated
a
referral
on
it.
So
we'll
see
what
happens
where
that
goes.
D
I
think
it
would
go
to
the
council
and
then
it
would
filter
down
to
probably
the
parks
and
rec
commission,
okay
and
then
they
would
kick
it
down
to
the
golf
advisory
board
and
then
it
would
work
its
way
back
up.
C
Oh
tonight
they
were
inquiring
about
the
registrar
of
voters
and
moving
them
into
the
forum
fitch
middle
school,
the
space
there
and
that
that
came
up
and
they
and
apparently
it's
not
not
in
their
budget
but
they're
they're,
going
to
make
plans
and
preparations
to
make
space
for
them
in
the
former
fitch
build
school.
C
B
D
B
D
B
A
A
Todd
I'm
assuming
that
charity
tournaments
are
coming
back
into
onto
schedules
this
year.
F
They're
starting
to,
but
but
not
to
the
level
that
we
have
been
expecting
probably
we're
at
less
than
50
percent,
something
like
35
percent.
I
think.
B
F
According
to
the
their
recommendations,
to
allow
for
greater
gatherings
and
and
not
solo,
writing
and-
and
you
know,
two
people
on
a
cart
kind
of
thing.
F
B
A
Other,
let's
see
other
sources
of
revenue
that
come
into
the
course
really
not
much
right,
so
we've
never
talked
about
other
uses
of
the
golf
course
beyond.
Just
golf
right,
I
think
conversations
about
foot
golf
came
up
way
back
in
the
past
things
along
those
lines,
but
I
haven't
heard
any
discussion
of
that
recently.
A
And
maybe
I
mean
that's
something
to
think
about
the
other,
the
other
that
does
bring
up
one
other
thing,
and
that
is
that
we
do
have,
especially
as
we
get
into
the
summer
hours.
I
mean,
there's
still
nine
holes
worth
of
golf.
They
complete
after
six
pm
at
night,
and
so
are
we
losing
out
on
revenue
by
closing
the
pro
shop
at
six
instead
of
say
it's
seven
well,.
F
We've
experimented
with
that
over
the
past
years.
I
think
it
was
like
maybe
10
12
years
ago,
where
we
we
kept
the
pro
shop
open
until
seven
and
and
we
would
get
maybe
one.
Two
three
people
come
out
for
nine
holes.
F
It
wasn't
significant
enough
for
for,
as
far
as
you
know,
the
the
golf
committee
is
was
concerned
to
go
ahead
and
and
extend
that
extra
hour.
It
just
really
wasn't.
F
Any
advertisement:
well,
yes,
of
course,
we
we
have
our
our
our
rate
schedule
advertising
and
our
twilight
rate
is
five
o'clock
and
we
have
a
really
good
five
o'clock
kind
of,
I
wouldn't
say
a
rush,
but
I
would
say
quite
a
few
people
come
out
at
the
five
o'clock
hour
to
to
play
and
yeah
so
yeah.
We
do
that
and
we
get
some
good
action.
F
A
D
Well,
we
could
look
at
perhaps
changing
the
topic
moving
forward
exactly.
E
Can
I
ask
you
a
question
here
when
the
clubhouse
has
a
wedding
and
they're
using
the
grass
area
is
outside?
Does
the
golf
course
get
a
piece
of
that.
D
B
E
I
know
in
the
past
you
haven't
really
wanted
to
encourage
this
kind
of
thing
because
of
the
parking
issues.
G
B
F
F
They
had
they
had
a
small
tent
just
outside
where
we
staged
the
the
back
strand
of
carts
by
the
cart,
barn.
B
F
So
that's
why
mark
and
and
eric
you
know,
granted
that
kind
of
thing.
B
F
Okay,
so
I
mean
something
some
background
I
mean
I
casey
and
I
every
year
we
run
a
junior
golf
program.
F
We
we
always
have
during
the
summer
time
in
the
last
10
years,
or
so
we
have
partnered
with
the
department
and
and
casey,
and
I
do
a
beginner
camp
and
a
an
advance
camp.
F
We
casey
and
I
do
not
take
any
fees,
so
so
any
revenue
that's
generated,
goes
to
the
department
and
and
so
and
when
we're
when
we're
so
we're
so
good
with
that,
because
casey
and
I,
as
golf
professionals,
were
all
about
growing
the
game
and
encouraging
kids
to
to
you
know
get
into
the
game.
Because
that's
our
future
and
that's
you
know,
that's
our
livelihood,
honest
honestly,
but
the
thing
about
it
is
it's.
It's
all
a
matter
of
participation.
F
I
mean
when
back
in
90,
98
and
2000
when
tiger
just
came
on
when
we
were
running
our
our
junior
camps,
we
had
almost
30
kids
come
out,
which
is
a
lot.
That
is
a
lot,
and
so
it
just
so
happened
that
that
that
a
friend
of
mine
who
was
between
jobs,
ryan
quinn,
pga
professional,
he
said
hey
I'll
help
out
whatever.
So
so
so
we
were
able
to
handle
that
that
surge
in
participation,
because
for
safety
and
for
effectiveness,
I
mean
we.
F
The
the
ideal,
as
far
as
the
pga
is
concerned,
is
like
a
six
to
one
student
to
pro
ratio,
and
so
we
can
only
handle
as
much
as
casey
and
I
can
handle
so
so
when
we
run
programs
for
the
department,
it's
it's
a
maximum
of
12..
Now,
in
the
last
several
years
we
get
four
kids,
five,
kids
or
whatever.
F
So
we
would
love
to
see
an
increase
in
participation
that
that's
the
thing
we
have
equipment,
the
kids.
Frankly,
the
kids
have
equipment
their
their
parents.
If
they're,
if
they're,
going
to
enroll
them
into
a
junior
golf
camp,
the
kids
have
equipment,
but
we
also
have
equipment
on
the
chance
that
the
kid
the
the
the
youngster
does
not
have
equipment.
We
do
have
equipment,
we
have
balls,
we
have
the
areas
and
we
have
the
wherewithal
to
to
handle
them.
F
Like
and
as
as
far
as
marketing
goes
guys,
the
I
mean
the
objective
for
the
for
the
program
is
to
grow
the
game,
as
I
said,
but
I
mean
the
marketing
really.
Is
the
department
handles
the
marketing
jess
in
in
the
in
the
in
the
department
and
in
park
and
rec
does
a
great
job
with
promoting
our
our
stuff?
F
You
know
game
boy
whatever
and
come
out
and
and
and
play
the
game.
I
want
to
have
that
discussion
with
you,
because
I
think
that's
a
key.
We
have.
We
have
the
we
have
the
resources,
we
have
the
professional
participation
with
casey
and
me
as
we
always
have
every
year,
but
we
need
to
get
the
kids
out
onto
you,
know
the
the
golf
course
and
and
into
the
program,
because
we
we
offer
every
chance
every
chance
for
them
to
come
out
and
and
participate.
F
It's
hard
and
I'd
love
to
talk,
sit
down
with
margaret
with
you
and
with
brad
and
whomever
else.
You
think
that
that
we
can
do
to
to
to
kind
of
scheme
a
way
to
to
get
the
kids
more
involved.
F
We've
even
like
four
or
five
years
ago,
we
reached
out
to
glenn,
graham
who
is
the
the
coach
for
for
fitch,
and
we
wanted
to
do
to
do
a
reach
out
to
the
middle
school,
to
kind
of
get
the
kids
to
kind
of
be
thinking
about
golf
and
and
coming
out
and
participating
and
and
and
letting
them
know
about,
the
beginner
camps
or
whatever
it
didn't
move
the
the
needle
at
all.
F
D
F
I
love,
I
love
the
we're
all
about
inclusion,
we're
all
about
about
getting
kids
out
there.
We
we
have
a
total
interest
in
in
growing
the
game
because,
because
their
participation
is,
is
the
future
of
our
game
and
our
livelihood
and
the
golf
course
is
livelihood
and
so
so
yeah.
So
I
I
think
that
that
we
really
need
to
sit
down
and
and
maybe
plot
out,
maybe
some
ways
that
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
that
thing
done.
A
Yeah
no
thank
you
for
that.
I
mean
that
that's
very
helpful.
My
one
suggestion
is
maybe
do
start
in
the
spring
doing
it
when
the
kids
are
still
in
school
and
you
have
a
captive
audience
to
market
to
to
be
able
to
get
them
out.
F
You
know
the
the
after
school
thing
is,
is
like
4
30
to
6
and
that
we.
A
But
on
a
saturday
afternoon
or
honest,
you
know
get
them
out
there
somewhere,
you
know
take
over
the
field
for
a
saturday
afternoon.
A
F
During
during
the
week
during
the
week,
it's
is
shown
to
be
after
two
or
three
years
of
doing
that
during
the
week.
It's
it's
it
just
when
they're
in
school.
It's
you
know,
of
course,
there's
the
the
complication
with
covid.
Obviously,
but
it's
it's
problematic
and
you
and
you
raise
the
idea
of
saturday
or
sunday
well,
we
could
certainly
try.
I
mean
you
know.
F
We've
always
focused
on
when
school
is
out,
because
we
know
that
they're
they're
out
and
we
you
know
during
the
summer
time
we
focus
on
like
9
to
11,
where
it's
not
so
hot
and
and
and
there
have
been
years
that
we've
had
great
great
participation
like
with
the
tiger
bounce,
but
lately
no,
it's
is
following
the
trend
that
that
that
golf
is
experiencing,
which
is
a
kind
of
a
decline,
but
with
the
covid
there
there
has
been.
F
A
Yeah
and
that's
my
whole
point
around
going
back
to
the
strategy
thing
the
world
changes,
and
so,
if
we
don't
adapt-
and
we
don't
start
looking
at
how
we
can
take
advantage
of
things
that
maybe
don't
cost
so
much
money,
it
would
well,
we
don't
charge
anything
yeah,
you
do
you
charge
99
for
residents,
119
for
non-residents,
for
the
beginner
program.
B
A
Yeah,
so
I
think
we
would
be
happy
to
get
some
people
and
and
help
you
think
through
ways
to
get
younger
kids
in
particular.
Maybe
little
seven
and
eight
I
mean
you
just
had
drive
chip
and
putt
on
the
weekend.
You
know,
maybe
it's
organizing
programs
around
something
like
that
with
the
younger
ones.
I
mean
they
start
at
seven
years
old
for
them.
A
Cindy
any
questions
gary
not
on
that
all
right.
Next,
on
the
agenda,
the
shenanigans
best
management
practices
manual.
G
G
The
national
association
of
golf
course
superintendents
gcsa,
set
out
a
goal
of
having
all
50
states
have
a
published
best
management
practices
guide
by
2020.
So
when
I
was
president
of
the
connecticut
association
of
golf
course
superintendents
our
local
chapter,
we
secured
grant
money
to
start
that
process.
G
G
You
know
several
other
specialists
in
the
new
england
area.
Initially
it
was
going
to
be
a
new
england.
Best
management
guides
practices
with
all
six
states,
working
together
with
people
from
all
the
universities,
but
that
didn't
work
out.
So
we
did
most
of
the
work
in
connecticut
first,
so
we
ended
up
just
going
on
our
own
at
some
point
and
we
did
reach
the
goal
by
2020.
Last
year
we
connecticut
superintendents
published
the
state
guide
for
best
management
practices
for
golf
courses.
G
So
it's
a
comprehensive
document.
There's
12
sections-
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
read
through
it,
but
basically
it's
kind
of
like
a
road
map
to
maintaining
a
golf
course
in
connecticut,
using
the
best
practices
we
can
to
protect
the
environment,
okay
and
do
things
science
based
with
research
that
backs
what
we
do
so
once
the
connecticut
guide
was
published
now,
there's
a
template
online
where
each
course
can
go
in
and
customize
the
document
to
their
own
course.
G
E
Eric
I
did
scan
it.
I
liked
the
table
of
contents,
but
there
were
no
page
numbers
took
a
very
long
time
to
flip
through
to
find
anything
about
mosquitoes
or
ticks.
I
would
suggest,
if
possible,
that
you
get
the
patient's
number.
G
B
A
G
G
Yeah
we
ended
up
the
connecticut
superintendents
hired
a
sustainable.
I
don't
know
what
they
actually
call
themselves.
G
We
hired
a
consultant
to
help
us
put
it
all
together
after
we
had
a
lot
of
the
individual
chapters
written
so
yeah.
It's
it's
a
very
professional
document,
there's
actually
a
forward
by
joel
acaba
in
there
tigers,
caddy,
there's
some
other
stuff
in
there,
but
yeah
it's
fairly
comprehensive.
But
it's!
You
know
something
that
if
anybody
wonders
what
we
do
at
shenacast,
you
know
a
lot
of
this
stuff.
We
were
doing
already.
We
were
certified
with
the
audubon
society
since
2005.
B
G
A
It
and
do
you
have
check,
have
you
created,
checklists
and
guides
that
your
your
team
uses
that's
based
off
of
this,
or
is
it.
G
B
G
So
those
are
taken
out,
so
I
went
through
each
chapter
and
removed
stuff
added
some
stuff
put
in
some
of
our
pictures
versus
other
people's
pictures,
and
it's
a
living
document
too.
So
you
know,
like
cindy,
wants
to
see
more
mosquitoes
in
there.
I
can
go
back
in
there
and
you
know
add
a
line
about
what
we
do
for
mosquito
control.
G
A
Now
I
think
this
is
a
great
document.
I
would
also
potentially
suggest
putting
a
copy
of
it
up
on
the
shenani
website
somewhere
yeah.
D
A
Because
it
really,
I
mean
just
kind
of
my
first
glance
through
it,
I
went
real
fast,
but
there's
just
a
lot
of
good
information
in
there,
in
particular
when
it
comes
to
talking
about
the
vegetation
and
the
plants
and
the
the
storm
water.
I
know
we've
had
discussions
about
storm
water
in
the
past.
A
E
E
Margaret
cindy
can
I
have
a
request
for
the
next
meeting
sure
I
would
like
to
see
listed
in
writing
the
cip
monies.
I
I
mean
we're
way
out
of
whack,
because
it's
been
a
couple
of
years
now,
but
I'd
like
to
see
what
is
there
and
where
we
stand
with
it
all
yep.
In
writing.
I'd
like
to
see
that.
D
Cindy
I
can
do
that
easily.
I
can
tell
you
that
we
were
told
department.
Heads
were
told
this
year,
not
to
put
any
cip
projects
in
the
fye
22
budget
unless
it
was
classified
as
essential,
so
everything
that
we
had
planned
well,
actually,
what
had
been
planned
for
fye
21
was
kicked
back
to
fye
22
and
now
has
been
kicked
back
to
fye
23.
D
E
D
Morgan,
I
have
one
quick
one:
getting
a
few
more
board
members
has
the
men's
club
and
women's
club
done
any
promoting
reaching
out.
A
Not
actively,
but
we
will
it
has.
It
came
up
this
week
again
just
so
you
know
in
discussions
with
with
the
men's
club,
so
we
do
know
that
we
need
to
grab
three
three
new
members,
one
of
whom,
I
think,
has
to
be
a
non-resident
right.
B
D
A
And
we're
hoping
to
find
a
little
diversity
here
and
thought
some
people
out,
maybe
outside
the
men's
and
women's
club
and
maybe
like
brian,
was
somebody
from
the
industry.
That's
outside
the
scope
of
shanna
cossett,
just
to
get
some
kind
of
different
perspectives
onto
the
golf
advisory
board.
F
Right
I
can
reach
out
to
someone
like
chris
hedden
who's,
the
teaching
professional
at
at
elm
ridge.
He
might
be
interested
in
in
helping
us
out.