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From YouTube: Groton Historic District Commission - 12/6/2022
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Historic District Commission December 6, 2022. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/file/getfile/70679
A
All
right
we'll
call
this
meeting
of
the
historic
district
commission
to
order
at
707
pm
and
I'll
see
Ferguson
and
Goodrich
as
full
members.
A
A
zoom
meeting
link
will
be
posted
to
the
town's
website
meetings
calendar
or
can
be
attended
by
visiting
www.zoom.uswebinar
ID
847-405-96368
password
645-771
or
by
calling
one
three
one.
Two
six,
two,
six
six,
seven
nine
nine
applications
are
on
file
and
available
for
public
inspection
during
normal
business
hours
at
the
planning
department,
134
grand
Long
Point
Road
Groton
Connecticut,
dated
this
28th
day
of
November
2022
at
Groton,
Connecticut
Todd
Brady
secretary
I'm,
gonna
wave
reading
of
the
hearing
procedures
are
over
there.
A
If
anyone
would
like
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
we'll
move
on
to
HTC
22-61
to
Roach
come
on
up.
C
Leo
roach
I'm
here
for
signage
for
one
part
of
the
streets.
C
I
was
here
at
permission
to
put
in
the
sign.
C
I
think
you
got
everything
in
Frontier
there.
What
what
you'll
see
it's
for
the
parking
down
on
the
street?
We
really
need
to
get
that
signed
on
Pearl,
Street
and
as
well.
Photoshop
picture
of
a
sign
would
look
like
in
the
building.
C
C
It's
actually
Mystic
sign
company
is
doing
it
and
I
believe
it's
it's
gonna
be
wood
and
It's
gotta
be
a
metal
supporting
it.
C
Think
I
don't
have
to
do
this,
but
I
believe
that's
that's
what
he's
in
that's
he's
going
to
use
he
he
does
a
lot
of
Mentone
I
guess
you
know
he's
together.
C
A
C
C
It's
like
outside
of
metal
around
this
and
then
sorry
PVC,
like
a
kind
of
a
PB
previous
look,
yeah
I
know
he.
He
incorporates
that
into
it
as
well.
C
C
C
B
C
A
All
right
does
anyone
in
the
audience
have
anything
to
say
for
this
application,
anyone
to
say
anything
against
this
application.
All
right,
HTC
22-61,
is
closed.
Htc
22-62.
This
is
three
Pearl
Street
modification.
A
Railings
for
cable,
rail,
I
guess
the
permit
was
already
approved
for
the
spindles
three
Pearl
Street
Mystic,
okay,
for
both
of
those
decks.
Yes,
I
think
there's
two
decks
yeah,
yes,
for,
for
both
those
decks.
A
A
B
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
C
A
C
A
More
cases
I'd
be
like
having
a
good
night
just
check
with
us
tomorrow,
any
pre-application,
no
you're
a
consideration:
oh
yeah,
okay,
so
HTC
22-61.
This
is
the
parking
sign.
Any
comments,
I
think
it
was
well
done.
I
mean
it
Leo
matched
the
massing
of
the
other
signs,
almost
exactly
it's,
not
bigger.
It's
not
smaller
same
materials.
I
was
actually
very
pleased
with
the
make
a
motion
I
make
motion
approved
I'll.
Second,
it
just
that,
though
he
submits
the
the
actual
details.
A
Yeah,
just
as
you
submits
the
actual
detail
from
the
carb
Sign
Guy,
okay,
all
in
favor
aye
coach
approve
it
pending
the
list
of
from
The
Sign
Company.
You
know,
I
free,
hi,
Evanson
hi
is
approved,
22
Dash,
sorry
62..
This
is
the
change
for
the
cable
rail
saw
questions
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
I
will,
second,
that
all
in
favor
aye,
Goodman.
B
A
D
B
D
A
Architects
here
representing
our
client
tonight
at
29,
gravel
Street
I
got
two
handouts:
I'm,
sorry
100
here
right,
we
I
I,
was
here
before
the
commission
back
in
June
June
21
of
22.
A
to
present
changes
to
the
house,
including
additions
and
Renditions
to
the
south
end
of
the
house.
We
are
granted.
A
A
Yes,
new
construction,
those
throughout
we
were
approved
for
a
metal,
clad
painted
metal
plaid
window,
which
at
the
time
we
were
calling
alone-
and
we
are
here
tonight
to
ask
if
we
could
that
to
a
more
plaid
all
additionally,.
A
We
started
and
the
scope
of
the
Interior
has
grown
so
so
that
now
is
a
good
opportunity
to
replace
those
which
is
here
again.
Everything
from
this
point,
we're
on
the
South
will
be
new
construction
Windows,
as
well
as
the
the
amount
of
work
being
done
inside
I'd
like
to
asking
the
existing,
because
the
fact
that
we're
used
in
Windows
spec
that
we're
using
on
the
south
we've
been
approved
for
new
painted
wood
shutters
throughout
including
the
main
body
of
the
house.
A
So
we're
really
just
talking
about
what
else
same
size
units
going
in.
A
You
know
match
detail
what
goes
back
yeah.
Some
of
the
advantages
include
to
replace
the
22
units,
and
let
me
just
go
through
here.
A
There's
a
big
shot
from
the
side,
but
it's
the
the
windows
on
the
side
here,
one
two,
three
four
five
and
then
the
windows
on
the
back
here,
one
two:
three:
four:
five:
six
units
on
the
back,
so
all
those
units
that
we'd
additionally
like
to
replace
five
of
them
exist
as
vinyl
windows.
Now.
A
Appropriate
and
all
the
windows
now
have
storm
panels,
so
it's
part
of
the
process
of
new
winds,
we're
going
to
remove
the
storms
and
actually
see
the
windows
that
have
a
cohesiveness
all
the
new
construction.
So
there
would
be
a
cohesive
disappropriateness
throughout
main
body
of
the
house.
There's
a
there's
a
mix
and
match
of
Summer
sashes
to
how
to
Telecom,
which.
C
A
A
Exactly
what
we
get
to
and
then
increasing
the
energy.
A
A
A
On
the
back
of
the
house
here
next
to
chimney
right
that
that
was
approved
under
the
previous.
A
A
A
So
right
two
parts
one
is:
can
we
go
ahead
and
replace
the
windows
on
the
on
the
main
portion
of
the
house
and
then
two?
We
want
to
change
the
windows
spec
from
a
low
end
window,
which
is
the
old
windows,
have
lead
time
issues
you
know
because
of
covid
and
one
is
a
Canadian
Matrix
high
quality
window,
but
a
Canadian
manufacturer
lead
times
are
sort
of
that.
We
need
to
get
windows
ordered
okay,
domestic
manufacturer,
so
application.
A
A
A
No
one
was
come
back
under
an
old,
but
they
just
clumsy
right.
So
just
did
all
the
applications.
What
you're
saying
yeah?
Okay?
Well?
How
do
we?
What
if
we
looked
at
another
way
of
leaving
the
the
existing
application
place,
the
approval
of
that
and
amending
it
or
you
know?
Would
this
be
a
second
application?
Okay,
because
it's
a
whole
new
part
of
the
house?
Okay,
so
it's
a
second
application.
The
existing
one
stands
separate,
I,
don't
think
anyone's
going
to
Care
between
blue
on
and
Margaret
old
to
them.
A
Okay,
that's
a
it's
not
like
you're
putting
in
more
elevator
or
something
elevate's.
Fine
too,
but
I
mean
whatever
their
other.
One
was
I,
don't
think
they
make
anymore
competes
in
the
vinyl
Market
yeah
right
glass
like
the
cheap
one
yeah.
This
is
their
their.
You
know,
top
tier
window
I
have
literature
if
anybody's
interested,
but
you
know
it's
sort
of
the
traditional
architect's
choice.
You
know
invading
better.
You
can
get
the
store
Windows
off
the
house
and
right
it's
just
going
to
provide
a
uniformity
throughout
so.
A
A
A
Sure
and
we
could
get
hurt
on
the
20th
and
voted
on
he's
likely
to
get
it
in
now.
A
B
A
D
In
1911.
there's
the
garbage
that
it
is
now.
A
I've
got
a
just
weed
cover
over
it
because
it
came
out
if
I
look
at
like
Google
pictures
like
the
sky.
It
came
down
sometime
between
2005
and
2011.
A
Coming
up
the
hill,
you
guys
can't
well
I
can
figure
out
how
to
do
this
better.
There
we
go
I!
Guess
if
I,
just
like
pretend
I'm
showing
it
to
you
right.
D
So
it
would
be
sort
of
between
these
trees
and
on
the
right
side
of
the
there's,
an
identical
one
across
the
street
same
footprint.
That's
on
for
lathe
that
if
you
were
coming
down
Latham
Street,
you
see.
A
A
Kind
of
horizontal
siding
with
the
trim
like
that
so
might
be
cheaper
than
a
Hardy
Board
right
now.
Oh
really,
yeah
would.
D
So
that
was
one
of
the
one
of
the
reasons
to
come
in
is
you
know
I
can
give
you
a
payment
plan?
How
much
detail
do
you
guys
need
on.
A
40
feet
tall
I
think
that's
kind
of
Windows
you're
going
to
put
in
there
sure
it's
going
to
be
double
doors
on
the
side
on
the
southern
facing
side,
with
two
minutes
just
write
it
all
out.
First,
okay,
you
got
it
like
that.
A
I
mean
I'll
be
done
in
a
couple
hours:
yeah,
okay,
the
other,
the
other.
C
A
B
A
D
A
A
They,
like
the
squirrels,
is
what
they
told
me
so,
but
you're
you
know
it's
gonna,
look
like
the
ones
that
might
neighbors
across
the
street
I,
don't
like
them
now,
just
that.
A
I
used
to
mirror
well
I
can't
believe.
I
can't
do
this
right
now,
all
right
so
and
then
the
second
one
which
is
like
I
said,
is
probably
a
little
more
complicated
I'm
trying.
We
did
our
best
to
figure
out
where
the
hell
we
were
to
put
a
half
bath
in
the
house,
and
the
only
thing
we
could
really
think
of
is.
A
Replacing
the
side
door,
we
have
two
front
doors,
replacing
the
side
door
over
the
window
so
that
I'll
have
a
hat
back
there
picture
of
the
first
floor
there
in
the
outside
on
the
outside
yeah.
That's
it's
like
tucked
around
the
side
of
the
house,
so
you'd
have
to
yeah.
So
I
have
a
little.
You
know
street
view
right.
A
It's
a
it's
an
overhang,
that's
it
covers
the
side
door.
It
goes
right
into
the
kitchen
we've
sort
of
seeing
the
most
efficient
way
to
use
the
space
and
I
am
having
a
timing.
Okay,
dude.
A
B
A
Out
front,
that's
got
a
set
of
four
of
those
and
I'm
gonna
match
them
size
and
elevation
so
that
at
least
there's
some
language
going
across,
but
actually
I'd
like
to
replace
it's,
not
a
historical
I,
guess,
I.
Think
I'm
trying
to
drive
at
I
mean
my
personal
feeling
is:
is
that
if
you're
just
replacing
that
one
door
with
a
window,
it's
kind
of
silly,
it
would
say
six
over
six
I
know
right
because
at
the
point
at
which
you
decide
to
replace
the
windows.
A
A
B
A
A
Public
Communications
I
had
one
earlier
today
that
I
emailed
Peter
and
Tom
and
John
Burr,
so
with
a
citizen,
complained
about
the
labs
parking
signs
across
from
Factory
Square.
A
The
blade
signs
Tom
feels
that
they're
appropriate
is
there
at
the
entrance.
The
concern
that
was
brought
up
is
they
are
actually
blocking
the
sidewalk
and
the
ramp
and
the
non-skid
for
people
with
disabilities.
So
I
asked
that
that
look.
That
is
possibly
Ada
issue
and
waiting
to
hear
back.
A
A
B
A
A
You
can't
take
it,
you
know
you
can't
even
tow
a
car
if
you're
on
property
I'll
take
the
sides
of
the
public
plane,
so
you
guys
can
take
it
actually.
I
believe
it
is
what
Tom
said
at
one
point
that
they
could
be
removed
in
a
public
way
yeah,
but
exactly
by
Public
Works,
not
by
yeah.
We're
not
gonna,
go
with
your.
D
A
Okay,
I
also
had
a
community
or
someone
reached
out
to
me
too,
about
behind
Central
Hall,
apparently
behind
via
Amelia
and
behind
the
building
with
a
door
in
it.
They
had
done
some
improvements
to
the
the
area
like
there's
a
driveway
there.
Evidently
well,
there
is,
and
there's
also
that
pump
station,
so
they're
placed
all
the
siding
and
all
the
roofing
on
it.
A
D
A
D
C
D
A
A
More
than
five
years
more
than
five
years
ago,
so
I
told
him
they
got
to
come
back.
Hey
we're
supposed
to
be
coming
in.
You
should
have
been
here
by
now
the
pump
station,
even
though
I
think
it
looks
fantastic.
Personally,
it
was
raised
that
they
didn't
they
did
not
put
an
application
in,
for
it.
Also
there's
all
this
vinyl
fencing
that
was
put
up
on
the
right
side
of
the
driveway
that
I
don't
remember,
seeing
that
was
part
of
the
original
program.
A
For
that,
so
I
was
talking
to
Bob
down
there
and
that's
like
I,
said
you're
supposed
to
be
this
gentleman
that
always
come
see
me
yeah.
A
So
that's
that
they're
aware
that's
coming
up
because
that's
I
saw
the
vinyl.
That's
the
only
final
anymore
right,
so
yeah.
If
it
was
approved,
it's
fine
yeah.
Even
when
I
was
12.,
that's
fine
and
then
I
think
we
talked
about
just
getting
a
list
of
or
not
we'll
go
there
in
a
second
anyways
approval.
The
minutes
I
didn't
read
them.
A
Happy
person
hi
I'm,
just
going
to
stay
inside
all
right.
All
right
minutes
are
proof
and
then
the
second
best
YouTube
I
make
a
motion
approved
in
November
15
minutes:
okay
I'll.
Second,
it
I
also
extend
I
I.
They
are
approved
as
well
old
business,
so
I
have
some
things.
The
gentleman
that
came
in
about
his
driveway
that
was
here
a
few
times
about
adding
that
planter.
That
was
never
done
or
hasn't
been
done.
Yet
questions
does
it
have
to
be
done
and
when
does
it
have
to
be
done?.
A
So
just
to
follow
up
with
with
what
you're
saying
Aaron,
we
asked
him
to
do
it.
He
didn't
he
well
he's
he
came
in
asking
for
forgiveness.
We
said
no,
you
need.
We
talked
about
the
compromise
and
and
having
just
like
the
beginning,
part
refurbished
right
of
a
better
term,
and
now
he
has
five
years
to
fix
it's
an
unpermitted
problem.
B
A
No
I
just
I'm
a
little
annoyed,
because
that
means
that
anyone
can
do
whatever
they
want
come
in,
get
a
certificate
approval
for
it
and
then
not
and
that's
what
I'm
saying,
maybe,
as
the
commission,
you
might
want
to
put
a
timeline
on
certain
items
because
it
was
a
button.
You
know,
instead
of
just
issuing
a
certificate
of
approval.
You're
doing
this
contingent
upon
you
take
care
of
this
within
so
many
days.
A
D
A
Look
into
that
love
of
that
kind
of
work.
Okay,
I
think
we
have
the
right
yeah.
Let's
say
we
have
to
go
this
far,
but
we
can
find
the
guy
yeah,
particularly
you
get
an
approval
for
the
other
one,
but
definitely
still
violation
right
so
yeah,
it's
just
how
that
would
yeah,
which
may
encourage
him
just
to
do
what
he
was
supposed
to
do
right.
A
That's
our
way
of
focusing
the
process
along
on
that
note,
though,
I
do
feel
that
I
personally,
don't
think
that
Tom
zanderini
has
the
best
interests
of
this
commission,
even
though
he's
supposed
to
be
serving
this
one
I
think
that
the
town
should
find
someone
else
to
do
it.
That
is
going
to
actually
in
a
reasonable
time
frame
advocate
for
what
we
ask
for
I
think
he
follows.
He
knows
the
legalities
how
to
comply
with
the
law.
A
The
way
it's
set
up,
yeah
and
I
respectfully
disagree
with
you,
oh
and
then
I'm
saying
that's
because
it's
also
discreet
type
of
Target
too
so
I
mean
I'm
not
getting
into
that.
But
Peter
says:
there's
other
resources
and
I'll
be
very
upfront.
Tom's
told
me
something
about
the
resources:
that's
not
a
town,
it's
a
government
state
agency
and
they
say
he's
incorrect,
so
I'm
trying
to
be
very
you
know
down
the
road
in
the
middle
of
the
road
yeah.
He
feels
that
way.
A
I
feel
that
way
and
I've
got
another
agency,
saying
it's
not
correct.
I
mean
take
the
30
000
foot
view.
How
does
that
look?
I,
just
I
asked
some
of
the
fence,
the
vinyl
fence
on
Pearl
Street
two
years
ago
two
years
ago,
and
he
finally
did
something
about
it.
Just
get
someone
who
wants
to
do
the
job
or
or
just
get
rid
of
them
off
of
this
and
have
someone
else
do
it.
Oh
I
was
just
either
do
the
job
or
don't
do
the
job
yeah.
A
A
All
the
jobs
have
been
done,
I'm,
not
questioning
I'm,
saying
the
job
is
being
done
terribly
I,
don't
think
he
should
do
the
job
anymore.
I
think
that
someone
else
should
take
over
that
job.
He
clearly
doesn't
have
any
interest
in
it.
He
argues
with
us
all
the
time
about
what's
right
and
what's
wrong
and
then,
when
we
push
him
on
it,
he
comes
back
and
says:
actually
you
guys
are
right
and
then
this
thing
comes
back
about
defense.
Well,
there's
also
the
huge
pendulum
shift
forward.
A
It's
gone
the
other
way.
Now
it's
becoming
very
strict
and
so
comedy
you
know
become
strict
again
will
become
a
strict
again.
But
it's
like
that's
where
you
know,
because
it
was.
There
was
a
window
of
time
because
they're
very
flexible
final
ones
allowed
different
things
were
allowed.
People
were
allowed
yeah.
A
I'm,
taking
in
what
the
commission's
doing
becoming
a
more
stringent
commission
wants
to
go
in
the
direction
we'll
go
that
way.
Yeah
I,
just
don't
think
it
was
probably
the
town's
job,
though
dude
before
you
were
around,
to
tell
the
board
that
they
had
a
set
of
rules
that
they
should
have
been
following.
Yeah
I
agree:
nothing
is
the
commission
I
mean
you
guys
are
the
paid
Town
staff.
You
should
probably
be
a
little
more
expert
at
the
job
than
us,
and
so
it
shouldn't
matter
where
this
way
or
that
way
the
laws.
D
A
The
way
commissions
are
commissions
are
they
can
they
dictate
the
way
it's
going
to
go?
It's
a
very
relaxed
commission
that
wants
to
be
that
way.
You
tend
to
go
that
way.
It's
a
very
strict
commission.
It
tends
to
go
that
way.
I
don't
think
we're,
particularly
turning
into
a
strict
commission.
I,
just
think
we're
just
trying
to.
A
Than
it
was
four
years
ago
five
years
ago,
that's
because
it
was
run
by
Sarah
and
she
did
an
absolutely
fabulous
job
of
having
everything
get
pushed
through,
no
matter
what
it
was,
as
I
said
on
the
record,
particularly
the
things
for
her
clients.
Well,
I.
Think
that's
where
you're
going
to
do
that.
You
should
probably
look
at
the
handball
trying
to
go
through
that
and
clean
it
up
a
little
bit
because
it's
very
ambiguous,
yeah.
A
Okay,
before
I
even
started
the
Water
Street
project,
as
you
were
here
at
that
point,
I
was
saying:
I'll:
do
it
I'll?
Do
it
I'll,
do
it?
She
wouldn't
let
me
do
it.
I
would
like
to
rewrite
the
handbook
and
I'd
like
to
have
that
be
a
project
you
get
started
on.
I.
Think
you
even
raised
the
point
that
there
was
funding
available
to
help
us
so
yeah.
Well,.
A
Violation
of
a
sort
the
sign
was
lit,
which
I
followed
up
and
emailed
you
and
no
one
ever
responded.
No,
so
it
did.
No,
you
don't
even
acknowledge
the
email,
probably
no,
he
didn't
Tom
looked
anyway.
He
caught
him
Hold,
the
Wall
Walt
had
a
change
in
staff
and
he
corrected
his
staff
and
now
the
new
staff
so
he's
doing
it
right.
He
had
a
new
name
looking
into
it.
Thanks
received.
A
I
should
probably
brought
it
up
received
thanks
and
I
mean.
There
was
also
a
question
about
the
fencing
and
all
that
I
guess,
I
mean
and
again,
I
did
not
know,
I
didn't
know,
he's
gonna
bring
it
up
either,
and
so
my
my
question
for
the
night
was
like
enforcement,
like
I
I,
feel
like
I've,
been
complaining
personally
about
I,
don't
I
I
can't
even
remember
I,
don't
even
like
I
blocked
the
name
of
it.
A
What's
it
called
bank
and
banking
Bridge
banking
Bridge
like
it's
like
mentally
it
blocked
it
out
of
my
head
because
I
it's
been
such
a
frustration
since
I
started
on
this
board
that
he
just
does
whatever
he
wants,
or
he
he
not
whatever
he
wants.
He
just.
We
approves
one
thing
and
he
did
something
else
and
and
some
in
certain
aspects,
not
all
at
all
and.
A
Stretch
it
as
far
as
they
can
stretch
it
well
like
the
house
on
life,
like
the
house
on
Library
Street,
which
I
think
is
great,
that
they're
making
progress
but
like
it
at
what
it
finally
cleaned
the
sidewalk.
Absolutely
she
could
walk
downtown
without
tripping
over
the
crap,
but
like
at
what
point,
as
I've
said
to
you
like,
the
COA
is
expired,
that's
gonna
be
another
one.
That's
going
to
be
coming
up.
That's
like
I
said.
A
That's
why
I
brought
up
with
Central
Hall
was
a
little
bit
bigger
project
so
because
he
wanted
to
go
and
do
the
cardboard
it's
all
expire,
he
was
trying
to
pull
a
building
department.
Yeah
I
said
you,
she
always
expires.
Are
you
going
to
go
back
to
that
yeah
and
with
all
the
respect,
I
think
the
problem
is
I
mean,
let's
be
honest,
everybody
knows
whatever
the
hell.
You
want
in
historic
district,
because
nothing
is
going
to
happen
right
and
that
goes
back
to
Tom
he's
the
enforcement
officer.
He
needs
to
start
enforcing.
A
A
A
few
along
the
way
that,
like
I,
said
the
one
guy
down
on
for
Rachel
brace,
please
maybe
I
tear
the
roof
off,
but
I
did
the
wrong
job
there.
We
had
to
enforce
that
and
he
went
in
and
changed
out
the
whole
roof.
You
guys
didn't
force
it
brought
back
to
you
guys
right,
but
you
didn't
enforce
that.
Tom's
interview
did
nothing.
The
only
reason.
B
A
Did
it
was
because,
basically
he
wasn't,
he
didn't
have
a
choice
he
wanted
to
comply.
He
voluntarily
complied.
There
was
no
enforcement,
I
mean
like
kudos
to
Sarah
for
going,
you
know
and
dealing
with
it,
but
like
it
wasn't
like
she
brought
an
enforcement
action.
You
guys
are
sitting
there.
You
know
with
pitchforks.
A
B
You
know
my
issue
too,
is
that
people
come
in
and
they
they're
told
that
they
have
a
complete
application
and
then
they
come
before
us
and
it's
obvious
that
they
don't
and
making
them
go
through
an
extra
step.
When
the
whole
point
of
him,
supposedly
screening
things
was
to
catch
the
applications
that
weren't
complete
yeah.
It
just
doesn't
I.
A
Mean
you
guys
understand
you
need
to
hire.
Somebody
else
is
that
the
issue
Maybe
I
just
get
someone
that
wants
to
do
it.
You
know,
if
you
just
want
to
do
it,
it's
fine
go,
do
whatever
he
wants
to
do
or
whatever
his
job
is.
I,
don't
know,
look
at
someone
else.
That's
actually
like
going
to
do
the
job.
The
enforcement
part
way
in
the
in
the
screening.
Part
too.
A
You
know
because
you're
right,
it's
frustrating
I
mean
how
did
no
offense.
How
did
Leo
get
in
there
with
something
that
didn't
have
a
list
of
material
right,
the
other
guy,
okay,
cables
I
for
me,
seen
it
whatever
else
well
and
the
other
reason
I
brought
that
up
and
I'll
put
it
out.
There
is,
you
know:
I
have
issues
with
Rosetta.
Still
in
my
in
having
unpermitted
work
and
when
I
send
Tom
an
email,
he
goes
well,
you
guys
saw
the
picture,
so
you
shouldn't
the
bind
everything
from
the
picture
which
I
personally
is
ridiculous.
A
D
A
The
pictures
of
the
finished
work
is
changing
all
the
from
what
he
was
approved
on
right,
right
and
then
I
said
well,
hey,
there's
the
problem
with
that.
It's
like
at
that
point
there
right,
but
there
were
still
10
things.
You
didn't
tell
us
about,
and
I'm
told
oh
well,
because
he
gave
me
the
picture
if
I
take
a
picture
of
my
house
from
half
a
mile
away
and
you
guys
don't
catch.
A
Everything
is
that
okay,
it
doesn't
really
work
on
my
sense
of
what
right
and
wrong
In
fairness
hate,
taking
pictures
of
a
project
of
any
project
that
wasn't
built
as
it
was
supposed
to
be,
or
what
the
plan
showed.
Throwing
them
here
in
front
of
us
in
six
photos
of
an
entire
project
doesn't,
in
my
opinion,
mean
that
that
entire
project
has
been
approved.
So
the
first
step
is
to
take
them
back
and
get
them
for
you
to
get
an
approval.
If
you're.
A
That
I've
got
to
request
a
town
attorney.
Look
at
it,
I
mean
that's
well
normally,
when
the
COA
is
issues,
you
get
a
problem
with
the
appeal
process.
You
have
those
10
days
to
ensure
to
feel.
If
you
want
to
appeal
it
I
sent
you
guys
an
email.
Two
days
later
within
10
days,
said:
hey,
there's
all
this
other
stuff
that
wasn't
brought
up
compared
to
do
an
actual
appeal.
Let's
not
appeal
just
send
you
an
email
like
you're,
actually
doing
an
appeal
process.
A
C
D
A
A
Then
work
was
done
right
that
wasn't
a
permit
came
back
trying
to
improve
all
the
items
that
they
did,
which
I'll
buy
with
again
anything
that
I've
written
in
writing
and
I'll.
Say
it
on
paper.
I
told
you
guys
over
and
over
again
it's
kept
getting
done
that
wasn't
slow
things
were
being
done.
They
weren't
supposed
to
be
done.
It
was
out
of
my
control,
I
bailed.
They
come
back
in
getting
worse
when
you're
working
on
it.
It
wasn't
yours
I,
would
have
liked
the
money.
A
It
would
have
been
nice
for
Christmas
gifts,
sure
but
I
built,
and
it
was
a
really
weak
presentation.
We
got
some
photographs,
we
got
some
drawings
Architects,
like
oh
I,
don't
know,
I
was
out
of
the
country,
I,
don't
even
know
what
the
hell
happened
there.
So
I
I
voted
against.
It
was
on
not
the
side
that
prevailed.
I
got
an
approval.
A
Well,
the
changes.
In
my
opinion,
the
changes
that
he
listed
as
what
was
the
changes
from
the
original
approval
were
approved.
I
agree
with
that
what
he
said
what
he
said,
sat
there
and
said
we
made
this
this
and
this
changes
that's
approved,
but
you
throw
a
bunch
of
photos
in
front
and
everything.
That's
unlisted,
no
list
of
materials,
no
anything
but.
A
This
is
not
enough
information
right
and
then
I
said
you
know.
These
are
the
five
issues
that
weren't
brought
up
in
either.
Can
we
have
them
come
back
to
get
these
approved
and
the
answer
I
got
from
Tom?
Is
you
guys
looked
at
a
photograph?
That's
all
you
needed!
That's
why
I
was
a
stickler
about
the
about
the
the
the
the
rail
I'm,
not
trying
to
be
a
jerk.
But
if
we've
been
told
by
our
pay
Town
staff,
you
can
do
a
gotcha
and
get
away
with
it.
A
A
Just
think
it's
a
more
rule
following
commission,
but
I
think
that
the
commission,
that
was
in
here
with
Elaine
and
all
them
15
20
years
ago,
whatever
it
was
that
wouldn't
let
someone
put
a
dormer
on
their
house
because
it
wasn't
a
dormer
there
in
18
whatever
or
the
people
that
couldn't
change
their
windows
out,
because
you
know
Marvin
aluminum
Cloud
wasn't
made
in
18
whatever,
like
I,
don't
know,
that's
ridiculous!
That's.
A
These
stories
about
that
one:
well,
it's
actually
the
Eric.
So
you
know
I
have
a
1745
house
and
I'm
much
so
much,
but
not
I.
Had
all
my
old
windows
restored
rebuilt
the
old
mercury
glass
in
them
completely
insane
right.
That's
me,
I'm!
Never
gonna
hold
that
applicant
for
that
they
want
to
put
energy
efficient.
One
though,
and
I
get
it.
You
know
and
I
think
Todd
and
I
have
a
joke.
We're
kind
of
on
bookends,
but
we,
you
know
I,
think
that's
good.
A
For
the
commission,
you
gotta
everybody
in
between
or
good
cross-section
of
the
residence
we're
actually
supposed
to
represent,
because
that's
what
it's
about
them,
not
us
I,
think
it
depends
on
the
property.
In
the
project
too
I
mean
my
personal
house
is
Marvin
Elevate
windows
in
there,
which
you
can't
tell
the
difference
between
those
in
the
1880
windows
that
were
originally
there
and
then
the
house
on
six
Elm
Street
that
we
ever
did
I
personally
and
reglazed
all
100,
whatever
Windows
yeah
yeah.
A
B
Our
grapes
and
I
think
we
all,
except
for
Todd,
let's
have
our
grapes,
but
what
can
we
do
like?
What,
as
a
commissions,
do
we
need
to
sit?
I
mean
I,
didn't
when.
B
A
Just
tackle
one
problem:
that's
whoever
I
asked
you
for
the
enforcement
list.
If
you
could
produce
a
list
every
time
we
had
a
meeting
of
just
what's
outstanding
yeah.
Well,
the
only
problem
with
this
past
month,
In
fairness
is:
we've
been
short
staffed,
with
Linda
being
out
right,
yeah
and
even
a
year
ago
no
I
know,
but
I
originally
asked
for
it
a
year
ago
which
Sarah
whatever
she
didn't
want
to
find.
So
be
it,
but
just
sometimes
we
can
at
least
at
least
we
know
what
we
have
to
deal
with.
A
Maybe
longer
but
like
I,
never
met
Tom.
Until
that
day
you
went
on
vacation
like
he's,
never
come
to
a
meeting
or
had
a
presence
or
even
kind
of
give
her
a
report
to
I
mean
to
your
point
of
what
he's
doing.
I
had
to
go
to
a
planning,
anxiety
meeting
you
have
Deb
used
to
have
Diane
and
you've
got
I'm
blank
in
his
name,
brown,
hair,
younger
guy
Bruce.
He
sits
there
and
sometimes
Paige
is
on
there
too,
not
Paige
John
writer,
at
least
you
know
who
they
are.
A
We
don't
want
well
the
town
that
we
don't
get
any
revenue
from
any
of
the
there's
no
Revenue
coming
in
from
any
Apartments
there's
no
Revenue
yeah
I
was
just
going
to
say,
I
think
that
the
town,
the
town,
that
none
of
them
live
in,
voted
on
this
and
wanted
it
and
you
gotta,
look
at
it
more
globally.
So
I
would
guess
that
downtown
Mystic
is
a
huge
tax
revenue
center
for
the
town
and,
let's
look
at
you
know
how
many
magazines
number
one
architecture
or
most
quaint
small
town.
A
We
keep
going
the
soldiers
in
the
last
year,
so
all
that
historic
look
we
work
to
protect
is
why
people
drive
and
fly
here
and
spend
money
in
this
town.
So
to
say
it's
unfunded
is
is
short.
Is
it's
over
the
past
five
years
that
all
the
development
came
into
its
businesses
came
in
what
was
the
other
Commission?
It
doesn't
do.
The
business
has
to
do
with
the
pandemic
and
the
shift
and
well
the
economy,
yeah
absolutely,
and
it's
about
the
trip
the
other
way
yeah.
A
There
were
also
the
fact
that
new
businesses
and
everything
have
appeared
to
new
restaurants
and
stuff
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
fact
that
these
things
keep
winning
Awards
and
like
architectural
digest
right
they're,
not
saying
like.
Oh
my
God,
the
oyster
clubs.
You
know
renovation
is
so
beautiful
that
whatever
they're
saying
Mystic
and
you
know-
and
in
the
last
five
years,
the
only
stuff
that's
really
happened.
Downtown
is
mine.
C
A
It's
not
like
get
a
full
revamping
of
downtown
I,
mean
sure
the
the
restaurants
and
the
traffic
that
comes
for
that
and
the
business
and
everything
fantastic
I
think
that's
absolutely
great.
As
far
as
like
what
we
do.
What
our
thing
is
supposed
to
be
is
is
hopefully,
what's
contributing
to
being
in
all
these
different
magazines
for
the
architecture
and
that
piece.
B
A
B
A
I
mean
I,
just
I
would
like
to
just
we've
talked
about
having
a
special
meeting
for
many
reasons.
I
would
like
to
do
noted.
Do
we
know
that
I'll?
Take
it
up
front,
I'll,
talk
to
them
and
we'll
see
about
changing
some
approaches
with
that
at
the
same
time,
I
think
you
should
look
at
the
handbook
and
if
you
want
to
do
a
revision
on
the
handbook,
you
should
probably
have
that
come
to
fruition.
So
how
do
we
do
that?
Because
I
would
I
would
like
to
do
that?
A
We
do
funding's
available
to
the
system
like
so
you're
gonna
have
to
price
it
down
with
John,
Reiner
and
kind
of
figure
it
out.
A
A
I
mean
yours,
don't
want
the
Tombstones
I've
said
on
the
record.
That
was
a
terrible
choice.
I,
don't
I
agree.
It
was
a
mistake,
huge
and
I
think
that
part
of
that
was
rushing
it
through
the
process
which
Sarah
did
a
fantastic
job
doing,
but
also
in
your
defense,
no
one
thought
to
look
at
your
building
from
New
London
Road,
correct
from
New
London
Road
that
wasn't
a
that
wasn't
like
an
oversight.
It
was
just.
A
Anything
else
in
life
right
just
like
defense
thing,
we've
been
dealing
with
like
we,
we
heard
the
perspective
from
one
road,
but
not
from
New
London
Road,
and
so
we
just
now
we
have
to
we're
more
cognizant.
Of
that
I
mean
no
I,
don't
I
mean
I
want
to
pass
them
up
to
Peter
too,
but
first
project,
I
kind
of
relied
on
I,
didn't
I,
didn't
know.
You
know,
but
I
think
it's
ugly
I've
said
so.
A
I
wish
I
didn't
do
it.
What
am
I
gonna
do
now.
I
can't
move,
it
I
mean
I
could,
but
it
was
good
paperwork
I,
don't
even
own
it
anymore.
I
can't
yeah,
no,
the
HOA
and
actually
each
unit
owner
owns
their
unit.
Okay,.
A
Still
an
old
business
messages,
if
you
have
something
I
mean
I,
don't
know,
I
won't
speak,
but
I
want
to
hear
because
you
bring
a
perspective.
That's
helpful
for
all
of
us
if
you
have
something
one
old
business
where
we
at
on
New
England
Road,
because
Miss
katzinis
called
me
on
the
way
in
which
was
that
oh,
the
foreign
I,
think
it's
got
to
be
an
enforcement
action.
At
this
point,
we've
made
it
clear
what
he's
here
today,
I
know
from
knowing
defense
called
me.
A
A
Thank
you
bridge
that
light
is
still
up
there
yeah.
This
is
not
on,
but
it's
not
hot.
So
that's
what
there's
nothing
we
can
do.
We
can't
have
them
so
it
never
accidentally
gets
turned
on
a
year
from
now
we'll
have
a
new
Step,
It
Might,
and
if
it
does,
you
can
slit
your
wrist
and
you
know
get
over
it.
Okay,
okay,
I,
can
understand
drilling
down,
but
don't
really
it's
gonna
be
ridiculous.
Yeah
I'm
just
walking
downtown
last
weekend
and
it
was
not
on
yeah.
My
wife
said
what
the
hell
are.
You
doing.