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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Town of Groton Historic District Commission - June 2, 2020. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
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Originally
I
don't
even
know
if
you
can
really
see
it
from
the
street,
so
I
was
gonna
at
least
put
a
picture
up
and
see.
If,
if
you
wanted
me
to
come
back
or
not
or
if
the
group
wanted
me
to
come
back
or
not,
okay,
it's
pretty
minor
what
I'm
doing,
but
obviously
I
just
want
to
run
it
by
everybody.
But
it's
it's
not
it's!
It's
just
adding
some
stone
onto
an
existing
wall,
because
I'm
going
up
in
some
places
a
little
I
just
wanted
to
get
everyone's
take
on
it.
Okay,.
A
Or
she
was
talking
about
a
pre-application.
How
are
you
handling
the
pre-application
process
if
they
don't
get
a
chance
to
talk
to
you
or
talk
to
me
prior
to
the
meeting
if
they
can
just
come
on
the
meeting
in
Clark,
I,
suppose
I
suppose
the
good
that
went
in
and
got
the
information
when
you
don't
work
in
the
ten
million
or
you
know
we
were
requesting,
you
know
I
guess
I
would
bring
it
up
in
ask
okay.
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Has
asked
you
to
start
your
video?
Well,
maybe
I
want
tonight
so
so
yeah.
If
people
do
contact
me,
I'll
email
them
how
to
join
the
meeting.
That's
that's
all!
That's
the
only
thing
I'm
different
and
sometimes
they
can
find
themselves
on
the
website.
I
guess
wow,
that
is
I
gotta
I
gotta
get
some
light
shielding
or
something
here
well
I'm
at
my
desk,
so
I'm
a
little
different,
just
a
little
different
location.
Here
anyway,.
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This
meeting
at
the
historic
district
Commission
will
take
place
in
a
webinar
format
through
zoom.
The
chair
of
the
Commission
is:
there
are
more
already
the
host
of
the
webinars,
the
building
official
staff
at
tenants,
meeting
fluent
beauties
of
English
Queen
and
Linda
Caleta.
Anyone
speaking
should
state
their
names
prior
to
speaking
each
time.
The
panelists
in
this
webinar
meeting
will
be
the
Commission
members
and
the
building
staff
panelists,
who
would
like
to
comment
on
an
item
should
indicate
by
using
the
icon
to
raise
hand
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
A
After
a
panelist
raises
their
hand,
they
will
be
able
to
comment
one
at
a
time
when
called
upon
by
the
Chairman
panelists
should
mute
their
microphones
and
so
called
upon
to
make
a
motion
a
second
emotion,
commission
members
can
raise
a
hand
and
be
acknowledged
by
the
host
or
chair
vote
on
emotion.
Commission
members
will
be
called
upon
individually
by
the
chair
to
vote.
Public
can
participate
in
the
meeting
during
the
public
communications
agenda
item.
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The
public
will
be
asked
to
raise
their
hand
during
the
public
communications
if
they
want
to
speak
at
this
time
by
using
the
icon
to
raise
hand
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
The
public
will
be
called
upon
by
the
host
one
at
the
time
and
will
be
identified,
they'll
be
able
to
speak
during
this
time.
Attendees
must
identify
themselves
prior
to
speaking.
Attendees
can
also
submit
any
comments
and
writings
the
building
department
after
the
meeting
for
consideration
and
any
items
discussed
tonight,
that
is
that.
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I
Thank
you
yes
right
there,
and
what
I
want
to
do
is
just
wide
it
right
now.
It's
11
feet
wide
and
I
want
to
make
it
22
feet
wide
same
length
on
the
same
apron.
It's
just
you
know.
Decaying
driveway
and
my
neighbor's
has
a
three
family
across
the
street
where
they
park
on
the
road,
so
I
want
to
alleviate
parking
on
the
on
the
roads.
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Basic
plan
is
that
we
are
rebuilding
our
chimney,
which
is
falling
down
and
the
plan
is
to
rebuild
it
from
the
roof
line
up
and
unfortunately,
the
chimney
company
says
that
our
current
design
is
not
compatible
with
code
for
the
flu
that
has
to
go
in
there
for
the
furnace,
and
he
said
it
needs
to
be
a
little
bit
wider
at
the
top.
So
we'd
like
to
duplicate
the
design
on
our
next-door
neighbors,
who
we
believe
the
house
was
built
at
the
same
time,
13
hours
by
the
same
builder,
which
is
the
380
high
street.
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I
I
would
I
would
I'd
like
to
do
whatever
you
guys
feel
most
comfortable
with
and
try
to
of
the
ongoing
issue.
I
mean
time
is
kind
of
the
essence
of
you
know
that
we're
gone
backwards
at
this
point
and
it
was
supposed
to
be
done
somewhere
around
Christmastime
and
the
project's
been
tied
up.
So
if
amending
it
is
easier
and.
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The
first
issue
is
more
of
a
documentation
issue,
so
we
have
a
previously
approved
application,
which
has
detailed
plans
in
it
with
measurements,
materials
and
architectural
drawings,
which
was
approved
and,
and
we
have
a
new
application
and
I
say
that,
because
it's
if
it's
a
new
application
in
my
mind,
it's
not
tying
you.
You
want
to
change
an
existing
approved
application,
so
you
either
have
to
amend
your
existing
application
with
architectural
drawings
of
the
changes
or
you
need
to
make
a
new
application
with
architectural
drawings
of
the
entire
building.
I
have.
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Yeah
again,
I
tried
to
I
tried
to
match
what
it
was
in
the
the
neighborhood
and
not
even
realizing
the
historic
district
part
of
it.
I
was
just
trying
to
be
hysterically
correct
with
what's
there
and
can
appreciate
the
historic
issue.
In
fact,
I
have
a
whole
development.
That's
not
miss.
Torrington
district
and
I
won't
accept
anything.
That's
not
period-correct,
just
because
I
appreciate
the
historic,
but
I
did
not
even
take
that
into
consideration
here.
I
just
looked
around
at
all
the
other
houses
and
I
wanted
it
to
fit
in
and
so
that
a.
E
Yeah
mr.
Falco
I
I,
don't
disagree
that
you
didn't
match
the
windows
with
the
other
existing
windows.
I
think
that
the
concern
that
Eric
was
bringing
up
is
that
it
once
you
it
appears
that
once
they
switched
from
the
transom
windows,
the
existing
windows,
the
structure
became
a
larger
and
it
almost
it
looks
like
a
very
large
structure
for
the
property.
It
doesn't
look
like
the
two-car
garage
with
the
storage
space
above
anymore,
and
that's
kind
of
the
effect
that
I
think
that
Eric
was
talking
about
with
regard
to
the
windows.
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I
mean
the
structure
is
still
if
we
were
to
take
those
and
turn
those
into
transom
windows.
It
would
I
I
thought
they
would
have
a
lot
of
walls
just
a
lot
of
like.
If
you
look
at
the
back
of
that
building,
it's
not
aesthetically
pleasing,
because
there's
no
windows
and
it's
just
big
and
bulky,
look
and
I
thought
the
windows
broke
it
up
a
little
bit.
But
that's
that's
just
my
opinion.
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B
No
I
guess
when
you
added
the
double-hung
when
you
added
the
double-hung
windows,
I
think
with
the
additional
height,
even
though
not
significantly
higher
I
think
what
ended
up
happening.
Was
you
created
a
lot
of
extra
wall
space,
that's
visible
in
one
fashion
or
another?
So
if
you
put
the
transom
windows
in
which
I'm
not
sure
anyone
I
mean.
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South
elevation,
which
is
I,
think
the
left
side,
if
you
can
scroll
down
or
scroll
somewhere
yep.
So
that's
the
left
one.
So,
on
the
original
plan
that
you
submitted
to
us,
there
was
two
smaller
transom
or
awning
type
windows,
that's
correct,
lower
part
and
there
were
no
upper
windows.
So,
looking
at
this
versus
that,
it's
just
a
dramatically
different
structure:
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
anyone's
complaining
about
the
trim
or
the
quality
of
construction
or
the
materials
really
at
least
I'm,
not
I,
think
I.
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Stop
there
for
a
second,
like
that,
just
without
even
knowing
measurement
looks
like
a
garage
and
when
we
voted
on
it,
I
remember
thinking,
that's
a
big
garage,
that's
I'm,
not
even
like
in
love
with
the
height
of
that
garage,
but
it
went
through.
But
that
looks
like
a
garage
all
of
the
pictures
that
we
look
like
that
now
looks
like
two
houses
side-by-side,
it's
true
Dale
in
every
change,
I
mean
the
trim
is
great
I,
don't
think
we
have
issues
with
anything
you
know
as
far
as
workmanship
and
materials.
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J
Right,
there's
no
there's
no
denying
that
I
understand
that,
but
they
the
actual
picture
that
you
guys
are
talking
about
to
make
it
look
like
a
massive
garage,
was
kind
of
cut
and
paste
and
put
on
that
lock.
But
if
you
look
at
the
bottom,
where
the
soffit
is
the
roof
line
it,
it
appears
that
to
me
that
that
cut
and
pasting-
yes
exactly
is
not.
A
B
Think
you're
original
in
that
submitted
is
probably
pretty
close,
because
if
you
look
at
the
side-by-side
mm-hm
the
soffit
lines
up,
you
know
a
half
a
dozen
cloud
boards
are
all
are
so
higher
than
where
it
was
shown
in
the
photo.
I
mean
I'm
guessing
it's
I,
don't
think
it's
like
significantly
off.
That's.
A
J
Guess
what
kind
of
shocks
me
a
little
bit
is
like
all
the
neighbors
came
over
and
really
complimented
how
nice
it
looked
and
then
it
seemed
like
the
only
complaints
were
outside
of
the
neighborhood
as
well
and
I
know
that
doesn't
matter
story
you
know,
but
you
know
the
people
that
have
to
live
around.
What
your
Wainman
looks,
big
and
bulky
is
was
very
like
you.
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K
The
market
picture
just
shows
basically
the
problems
that
are
with
the
chimney.
He
it's
been
leaking
pretty
bad,
so
the
best
representation
I
had
was
the
picture
to
the
right
with
a
stone
cap
on
it.
You
know
the
one
the
picture
to
the
right
is
not
the
same
sized
chimney
cuz
mr.
Daley's
is
an
8
by
12
flue
size,
so
it
would
be
a
rectangle
again
exactly
like
it
is.
We
can
copy
the
same
pattern
on
top
well
I,
say
we're
just
looking
to
add
the
brick
piers
and
a
stone
on
top.
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M
My
name
is
Jamie
Lewis,
Mills,
heating
and
cooling
on
behalf
of
Larry
Taylor
at
287,
no
Inc,
Road
and
mystic,
we're
looking
to
install
two
condensers
outside
of
his
home,
and
some
line
sets
going
up
the
side.
If
you
look
on
the
GIS
I'm,
not
sure
what
that
kick-out
is
on
the
left
side,
it
doesn't
actually
exist
and
you
can
see
it
in
the
photos
that
I'll
show
you
but
there'll
be
a
condenser
on
the
left
side
and
then
one
in
the
rear,
neither
of
which
are
visible
from
the
street.
M
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M
This
would
be
right
side
when
facing
the
front.
The
two
black
lines
indicate
that
line
set
drops.
They
will
be
in
a
ivory
slim
duct,
which
actually
matches
the
trim,
it's
kind
of
like
an
eggshell,
almost
so
color
wise.
It
would
really
blend
in
nice
as
far
as
matching
a
trim
fit
at
home.
They're
gonna
be
pretty
symmetrical,
giving
you
know
inches,
but
those
drops
should
be
at
the
same
height
that
the
tubes
to
same
units
going
on
in
either
room
there
and.
M
This
is
opposite
side
of
the
house,
where
there's
actually
a
second-story
drop
and
a
first
story
that
will
share
the
same
conduit.
Those
I
tried
to
I
mean
they're,
not
really
visible
from
the
street.
On
that
side,
this
is
a
street
view
of
the
right
side
from
I.
Think
I
took
it
from
the
sidewalk
again
they'll
be
symmetrical
close.
M
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E
Agree
with
Heather,
if
they
brought
this
to
us
initially,
we
would
have
said
I
would
have
said
I.
Think
it's
too
big
for
the
surrounding
area.
I
think
that
we
need
to
continue
it,
make
it
smaller
or
make
it
smaller
and
I'm
empathetic
to
the
fact
that
it's
built
in
the
financial
considerations
that
it
would
take
to
correct
it.
But
it
is
not
something
that
I
would
have
approved
either
and
again
I'm
in
a
pickle,
because
it's
built
right.
B
E
H
Well,
like
I,
said,
I
think
the
question
is:
are
we
going
to
deny
it
based
on
basically
two
feet
of
additional
height,
because
I
mean
it
was
approved
with
the
original
height
I
mean?
Maybe
the
renderings
weren't
right?
Maybe
they
were
perspective?
Wasn't
right,
but
you
know
the
dimensions.
Were
there?
That's
what
we
approved.
E
C
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E
This
is
this
doesn't
help,
but
you
know
I
would
have
probably
liked
us
I've
seen
and
you
know
they
they
came
back
and
they
put
in
an
application
of
what
they
have
built
so
depending
on
the
outcome
of
this
meeting.
Maybe
they
can
find
a
way
to
make
it
a
modification
that
doesn't
cost
as
much
money.
I
have
no
idea.
Okay,.
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Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
I'm,
sorry,
my
camera
won't
work,
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
it
would
be
easier
for
you
to
be
able
to
like
see
the
application.
If
you
go,
you
have
it
perfect.
So
this
is
actually
not
for
Water
Street.
It's
4:46,
West
Main,
the
old
Bartleby's.
Sorry
I
forgot
it's
okay,
so
we
there
are
three
signs
existing
on
the
building.
N
N
N
Yep,
so
the
one
on
the
left
at
the
top,
where
it
says
clean
next
to
it.
That
is
the
one
that
we
would
like
to
hang
from
the
front
of
the
building
and
then
dimensions
are
on
there
as
well.
For
you
to
see,
and
then
the
one
on
the
right
above
will
be
on
the
side
of
the
building
and
the
one
below
it
will
also
be
on
the
side
of
the
building.
N
So
if
you
scroll
down
one
more
you'll
be
able
to
see
like
where
it
will
be
kind
of
just
over
where
the
old
Bartleby's
one
is
currently
and
then,
if
you
scroll
down
one
more
again,
you'll
see
them
on
the
side
of
the
building.
The
other
one
is
for
harp
and
hound.
So
it's
not
ours.
So
those
are
the
three
signs
and
then
we
would
like
you
can
send
the
last
one.
N
So
the
last
one
is
on
the.
If
you're
facing
the
building
the
right
side
there's
a
window,
and
we
would
like
to
turn
it
into
a
takeout
window
for
because
we
don't
to
kind
of
make
it
so
as
many
people
are
in
the
building,
especially
right
now.
So
we
would
like
to
move
make
that
window
a
takeout
window
and
I
know
that
the
sidewalk
had
to
be
a
certain
measurement,
so
I
would
have
to
circle
back
with
Adam
on
that.
N
N
Yep
you'll
see
we
are
putting
in
a
hood
we'd
like
to
put
in
a
hood,
and
it
will
it's
you
can't.
The
only
thing
you'd
be
able
to
see
from
the
street
would
be
the
very
top
of
it.
The
part
to
the
right
is
building,
so
you
wouldn't
see
that
part.
It
would
just
be
the
actual
very
top
that
you
would
see
from
the
street,
and
that
is
the
basis
of
the
application
infused.
N
N
B
N
B
N
A
H
N
Unfortunately,
they're
not
to
scale
I
tried
my
best
to
kind
of
place
them
over
the
signs
that
were
existing,
but
my
photoshop
skills
are
not
that
great,
but
the
signs
that
are
there
right
now
are
roughly
that
size.
They
are
pretty
big.
The
the
young
buns
one
is
8
feet
by
3
feet
and
the
fresh
donuts
and
coffee.
One
is
four
by
five.
M
N
A
H
N
Well,
so
this
yellow
is
actually
not
the
yellow
that
it
will
be
it's
just
the
way
it
looks
on
the
computer.
It
will
be
a
softer
yellow
it
just
is
because
we
have
the
same
question
about
it,
but
it
should
be
a
much
softer,
yellow
who's.
Just
the
way
it
appeared
that
it
appears
darker
on
the
screen,
because
we
said
the
exact
same
thing.
E
F
N
E
J
C
J
B
J
B
A
E
E
J
It's
the
problem
with
the
upstairs
was
on
the
original
plans.
The
homeowner
wanted
the
downstairs
sheetrocked
and
finished
I
mean
he
wants
the
floor
finish.
He
wants
the
walls
painted
inside
the
garage
itself.
He
has
a
test
learned.
He
wants
to
heat
it
because
of
the
he
has
trouble,
keeping
their
cards
charged
in
order
to
have
anything
future.
We
put
futures
in
because
you're
not
going
to
get
to
those
after
and
it.
F
J
J
A
Would
suggest
if
you
go
to
the
architectural
guidelines
within
the
historical
district
or
plet?
There
is
just
a
section
on
dormers
and
dealing
with
that.
So
that
might
benefit
to
take
a
look
at
that
before
you
design
anything
with
the
dormer,
but
it
does
get
into
the
shed
dormers
with
the
sides
and
everything
in
there.
So.
A
J
A
J
Basically,
take
off
the
siding,
you
build
like
ladders
and
you
put
them
on
the
side
of
the
building
and
then
you
put
a
shingles
on
top
of
that.
So
it
looks
like
to
rabbit
runs.
As
you
said,
chicken
run,
so
it's
Gables
down
steeper
and
then
it
it
has
the
dormers
on
top,
which
is
the
existing
roof
line.
So.
J
No,
no
I
drove
a
turn.
I
mean
that's
an
option
too
I'm
not
opposed
to
that,
but
I
think
more
aesthetically.
It
would
look
better
to
just
not
do
the
rabbit,
but
not
do
the
rabbit
run
horizontally,
but
take
and
make
the
the
peak
of
the
front
instead
of
being
like
this
we'll
leave
that.
But
then
you
run
rabbit
runs
like
this.
So
it
looks
like
the
walls
on
the
first
floor
are
only
like
eight
feet.
J
A
J
A
J
B
J
F
C
E
D
Have
a
question
about
public
communications:
I
got
a
call
today
from
someone.
Who's
certainly
can't
come
in,
but
we're
not
holding
meetings
here
and
she
doesn't
have
internet
access
and
so
the
only
way
that
she
can
asked
to
or
present
something
to
you
as
a
pre-op
is
to
do
it
by
letter
and
I.
Wasn't
sure
I'd
never
seen
that
done
before.
I
wasn't
sure
what
your
feeling
is
about
that.
Well,
when
you.
D
D
H
D
So
there
is
a
decrepit
or
deteriorating
actually
depends
on
her
property
that
she
would
like
to
take
down,
and
we
were
not
sure
if
that's
something
that
is
considered
like
a
demo.
So
we
look
Pete
looked
it
up
in
the
guidelines
this
morning
and
it
said
that
you
know
fences
you
should
be
maintained
and
retained
rather
than
you
know
just
gotten
rid
of.
So
we
thought
well,
it's
probably
something
that
she
should
run
by
you,
at
least
in
a
pre-op
meeting,
so
that
you
know
what
it
is
that
she's
taking
down.
D
A
Language
of
the
fences,
this
guy
was,
you,
know
good
thing.
Brother
episodes
I
bring
it
up
to
us,
think
it
says
existing
rule.
Also,
defense
a
should
be
preserved
wherever
possible.
Restoration
of
existing
explore
fences
is
always
preferred
to
replacement
of
the
stain,
and
it
says
where
fences
have
been
removed
that
reconstruction
of
historically
appropriate
fences,
but
it
doesn't
say
anything
about
if
you
just
got
rid
of
the
fence
altogether.
Son.
C
F
B
Iron
ones
or
the
one
at
the
heart
house,
that's
on
West
mystic.
That's
got
that
really
neat
detail
which,
unfortunately,
is
also
falling
down.
But
you
know
there
were
some
pretty
skilled
carpenters
that
made
some
pretty
cool
things
that
are
some
around
in
some
situations.
Still
so,
but
you
know
picket
fence
from
Home
Depot
that
was
put
up
ten
years
ago.
That's
falling
over
I.
C
C
D
I
think
I
think
those
are
really
good
ideas.
I
can
contact
her
tell
her
that
she
could
put
something
in
writing
and
then
calling
to
explain
it
and
I.
You
know
she
she
just
didn't
understand.
Why
would
she
would
even
have
to
appear
and
I
just
was
explaining
it's
kind
of
like
freedom
of
information.
It's
a
public
meeting.
It's
that's
how
it's
got
it's.
E
B
D
B
F
C
B
E
E
B
E
E
C
C
B
E
F
E
C
C
E
E
In
this
area,
while
living
him
to
the
fact
that
she
hasn't
been
here
since
March,
whether
that's
true
or
that
I
know
and
maybe
I
misunderstood
her,
but
she
implied
that
it
was
challenging
to
submit
the
application
because
she
wasn't
available
to
take
the
pictures
of
the
signage
and
such
I'll
check
in
with
her
tomorrow
and
see
where
she
stands.
Because
I
did
expect
to
see
one.
By
now.
He.
D
Had
her
assistant
contact
me
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
soon
enough
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
that
they
could
have
been
on
this
agenda.
We
play
Cohn
tag
for
a
couple
of
days
and
it
was
tagging
you
you're
it
and
she
I
never
heard
back
from
her
mm-hmm
and
I.
Don't
think
she
really
understood
what
she
was
trying
to
apply
for
I
think
it
was.
It
was
very
little
direction
from
I
think
her
name's
Laurie.
Yes,.
E
E
I
spoke
with
Laurie
at
length
and
was
very
clear
as
to
what
she
needed
to
do,
yeah,
which,
in
the
conversation
she
had
said
she
lives
in
Fishers
Island.
So
she
tried
to
pass
it
off
to
her
assistant,
who
could
perhaps
do
it
for
her
and
I?
Guess:
that's
where
it's
stalled,
so
I'll
circle
back
and
light
a
fire
under
which
usually
I
mean
she's
receptive
just
getting
to
the
next
step.
So,
okay,
okay,
we
were
on
public
communications.
Is
there
anything
else?
H
H
C
A
Which
is
I
was
just
wondering
to
follow,
maybe
in
the
future,
it's
just
a
suggestion.
If
you
were
going
to
put
the
denials,
if
you
are
going
to
deny
someone,
if
maybe
you
give
one
of
the
design
guideline
criterias
as
to
why
it
was
not
going
to
be
approved,
whether
it's
historic
context,
the
scale
the
rhythm
is,
you
know
we
have
these
different
ones
in
there
for
line
items
of
different
reasons.
So
then
people
would.
E
A
F
E
E
D
I
talked
about
Deb
Jones
and
her
feeling
from
the
planning
perspective.
Is
that
you,
you
do
the
appositive
motion
your
motion
to
approve,
and
then
you
vote.
No
so
and
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
statutorily
if
that's
an
accurate
thing,
I
think,
certainly
historically,
that's
what
they've
done
here
and
so
I
I'm
just
telling
you
travel
knowledge,
the
other
part
of
it
is.
We
did
talk
maybe
last
year,
because
you
don't
deny
a
lot
that
on,
for
instance,
CBA
they
give
three
or
four
reasons.
D
E
I
mean
in
this
particular
application.
Well,
it
was
a
brand-new
application
to
be
honest
with
you,
so
it
would
be
denied
based
on
scale,
which
was
clear
in
our
discussion,
which
is
why
we
have
a
discussion,
but
in
the
actual
vote,
because
it
was
an
affirmative
or
positive
rather
motion.
It
was
no
no
no
and
we
didn't
face
our
reason
so
help
me
out
here
when
I
get
the
coa
I
can
put
denied
as
a
result
of
scale
per
discussion
and
deliberations,
but
Peter
to
go
back
to
your
point.
A
Because
that
more
then
it's
gonna
be
confusion,
because
if
the
person
comes
back
to
us
now,
they're
gonna
be
like
well.
How
do
I?
How
do
I
bring
this
forward
at
this
point?
So
then,
I'm
gonna
be
going
through
pretty
much
the
moment
with
the
discussion,
but
if
you
guys
were
to
specify
certain
items
and.
F
A
E
A
E
A
E
E
A
A
D
I
seen
all
my
suggestions
seem
to
be
like.
Not
so
not
such
good
suggestions,
but
the
other
thing
is,
it's
other
commissions
they'll
make
the
motion
and
then
have
a
discussion
so,
for
instance
tonight,
if
you
made
the
motion
and
seconded
to
approve,
and
then
you
had
the
discussion
about
why
you
would
that
you
didn't
like
it
why
it
was
not
favorable
to
you.
It
was
the
scale
and
I
know
that
then
you've
kind
of
got
that
as
all
part
of
your
motion
and
again,
we.
E
D
A
A
Yeah
I
think
it's
just
I'm
just
trying
to
expedite
the
process
where,
when
they
come
back
to
me
afterwards,
I
get
them
ready
for
you
for
next
meeting
for
different
things.
So
I
know
exactly
what
it
is:
we're
trying
to
get
screwy
if
the
discussion
wasn't
good
enough
form,
at
least
if
we
had
the
clarity
of
what
exact
items
work
on
well.
E
H
F
B
E
E
E
Know
I'm
asking
specifically
so
when
so
Linda
every
week
sends
me
the
applications
to
sign
so
on
this
one
when
I
sign
it,
I'm
gonna,
obviously
check
deny
and
then
I'll
write
in
comments.
This
application
was
denied
as
a
result
of
scale
and
massing.
Unless
there's
something
else,
someone
wants
me
to
add
which.
B
E
That's
kind
of
where
we
get
stuck
because
we
have
to,
in
my
mind
correctly
from
around
what
conceptually
we
have
to
put
out
of
our
heads,
the
previous
application,
because
this
was
a
brand-new
application.
I
mean
we
were
comparing
it
to
the
previous
one,
because
that's
what
we
approved
and
we're
saying
we
wouldn't
approve
this
one
had
it
come
before
us
originally,
but
this
was
a
brand-new
application,
so
I
don't
necessarily
want
to
tie
the
two
of
them
together.
He
still
has
an
approved
application
on
the
land
records
or
on
the
town
records.
Yes,
yeah.
B
E
B
L
B
E
B
C
B
B
H
I
just
have
just
a
technical
question
and
all
our
other
hearings
when
I
just
clicked
on
the
link,
I
automatically,
went
to
zoom
and
tonight
when
I
clicked
on
both
Linda's
your
link
in
your
email
and
the
one
from
landing
people.
It
asks,
for
you
know
the
password
and
all
that
other
junk.
Is
that
something
new?
Or
can
we
eliminate
that
in
the
future?
So
we
just
clean
click
on
the
link
and
get
in
you.