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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Historic District Commission November 1, 2022. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/file/getfile/69691
A
There's
recordings
all
right
call
this
mean
meeting
of
the
historic
district
commission
to
order
at
704
and
I'll,
appoint
Goodrich
to
a
full.
B
A
How
do
you
read
the
call
Dear
Matt?
Please
publish
the
following
public
notice
or
one
insertion
on
Monday
October,
24
2022,
Connor,
Groton
notice
of
public
hearing
historic
district
commission.
A
historic
district
commission
will
hold
a
public
hearing
on
Tuesday
November
1
2022
at
7
pm
at
the
Groton
Town
Hall
Annex
134
Groton,
Long,
Point
Road,
and
virtually
via
the
zoom
platform
to
hear
the
following
applications
requesting
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
hdc22-60,
123,
High,
Street,
Kevin,
Leibowitz
owner
applicant,
rebuild
garage,
pin
number
2619-1830-1980.
A
The
zoom
meeting
link
will
be
posted
to
the
town's
website
meetings
calendar
or
can
be
attended
by
visiting
www.zoom.us
webinarid
826-6328-7462,
password
153061
or
by
phone
1312-626-6799.
Applications
are
on
file
and
available
for
public
inspection
during
normal
business
hours
at
the
planning
department,
134
Groton,
Long
Point
Road
Groton
Connecticut
dated
this
24th
day
of
October
2822
at
Groton,
Connecticut,
Todd,
Brady
secretary.
B
A
B
A
I
was
here
several
months
ago
to
put
a
and
put
an
apartment
in
my
backyard,
my
mother,
my
mother's
sister.
She
doesn't
want
to
live
with
me.
She
wants
her
own
house
to
use
that
so
I'm
going
back
to
rebuilding
the
garage
or
buying
back
burned
down,
April
of
not
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
or
so
so
it's
gonna
be
like
for
like
same
spot.
It's
actually
the
same
Foundation
I
have
I.
A
Have
an
engineer
check
it
out
said
it
was
still
Vine
and
not
sure
how
you
want
me
to
go
about
this,
but
here's
the
thing
billboard
together
for
me,
which
walk
us
through
sure.
A
The
same
exact,
it's
the
same
exact
ly,
building
that
was
that
was
there
except
the
wall
on
the
right
Windows.
The
windows
were
eliminated
because
of
the
process.
My
property
line
I
had
to
build
this
with
my
garage
burnt
down
his
house
caught
the
smolder
and
got
pretty
bad.
So
it's
going
to
have
a
fire
board
again.
A
But
a
fire
resistant
there
are
they
all
the
same
they're
all
the
same,
just
picture
the
one
on
the
top
right.
Looking
at
it
from
Heist
straight
on,
you
would
see
the
one
on
the
bottom
left
is
looking
at
from
my
backyard
earlier,
the
courtyard
in
their
backyard.
A
Looking
at
from
there
and
the
same
with
the
other
there's
just
a
profiles,
the
garage
doors,
the
same
the
roof,
something
down
to
the
Triangular
window.
It's
going
to
be
Anderson.
A
A
Spotting
I'll
keep
my
hands
off
there.
The
only
thing
that
might
might
be
different
than
these
plans
are
Bill
put
down.
Cedar,
shingles
and
I
had
to
see
their
shingles
on
my
home.
My
insurance
company
made
me
change
it
about
10
years
ago,
when
I
bought
the
house,
because
they
said
it
was
too
big
of
a
lot.
They
would
insure
me
unless
I
changed
them
out,
because
it
was
too
big
of
a
liability
would
be
the
house.
A
Those
were
changed
out,
so
Billy
kept
the
the
cedar
shingles
on
this
one,
but
I
would
probably
if
the
optional
available
go
with
CertainTeed
architectural
shingles.
Is
that
what
you
have
on
your
house.
B
A
A
You
would
lose
our
removable,
so
you
want
to
do
the
architectural
shingles,
or
do
you
want
to
do
the
cedar?
I
would
rather
probably
just
do
the
cedar,
because
if
I
did
the
architectural
shingles
and
like
insurance
company
came
to
me,
yeah
yeah
everything's
back
and
forth
yeah.
So
could
you
just
write
on
that
yeah
and
we'll
just
make
the
want
to
build.
A
A
And
he's
not
getting
old,
some
of
the
stuff
is
right.
You
can
turn
it
over
again:
the
window
door
casing
material,
Okay
window,
casings
materials,
cement,
fiber,
trim
and
Factory
finished
door.
Casings
same.
Are
you
looking
for
that?
Are
you
looking
for
like
a
brand
name
yeah
exactly?
Where
is
that
that
was
on
three
all
right
here.
A
A
A
So
it's
supposed
to
be
Henderson,
you're,
probably
I,
don't
even
know
why
I
left
all
the
decisions
up
there
are
you
serious,
but
he's
got
the
grills
on
the
glass
with
spacer
bars.
So
that's
what
we
have
in
our
house
as
well.
They
just
pop
in
to
form
the
six
pane.
A
A
Woods,
if
you
guys
back
on
the
camera
again,
I
bought
my
wife
tonight,
great
I'm.
Never
gonna
live
this
town.
Maybe
she
should
come
and
help
you.
Maybe
she
does
yeah,
that's
just
how
to
fasten
it
all
for
our
kind
of
existence.
B
You
know
how
the
process
works
nope.
Well
after
we
hear
all
the
hearings,
but
that's
you
then
we
consider
your
case.
So
if
you
want
to
hang
around
for
10
minutes.
A
A
That's
it
so
close.
The
public
hearings
and
I
guess
we'll
go
to
remote,
so
yeah
make
a
motion
to
approve
it
per
vote.
Do
we
have
to
say
that
I
think
he's
got
it.
A
C
Three
minutes:
Levinson
I
I
think
it
was
very
complete
application
and
that
looks
like
a
good
project
and
they.
A
Right
yeah
I
vote
in
favor
too
and
I
agree
with
what
Don
said:
I
think
it's
full
complete
and
if
the
extended
matches,
what
was
there
so
much
the
better
I
guess.
A
Okay,
any
pre-applications.
A
A
Big
complaints
about
unpermitted
signs,
Mystic,
the
only
three
signs
of
attached
two
blades
and
one
building
mounting
side
are
not
permitted
to
be
removed,
played
a
name
signs
only
permitted
at
the
front
of
the
property.
You
have
one
at
the
entrance
of
the
parking
lot.
That
is
legal.
The
two
at
the
intersection
of
West
Main,
Street,
Pearl
Street,
must
be
removed.
Parking
directional
sign
on
the
building
is
an
off-premise
sign
must
be
removed.
The
blue
P
signed
on
the
street
sign
bowl
for
West
Main
Street
and
the
Earl
Street
was
approved
by
the
DPW.
A
These
may
not
open
any
questions.
Then
he
sent
out
an
email
again
this
morning.
Please
hello,
Leo,
please
let
Pete
and
I
know
if
you're
planning
attending
tonight's
HTC
meeting
to
discuss
the
illegal
portable
signs
on
Pro
Street,
the
commission
may
move
forward
with
an
enforcement
action
action
in
lieu
of
your
absence
and
so
that
we
didn't
get
a
response
from
him.
After
that
yeah
I
agree:
I
sent
Tom
an
email
from
Sunday
nights,
they
were
still
present
and
then
the
other
one
was
for
defense.
A
The
HTC
certification,
two
three,
four,
seven
on
the
fence.
Instructor
17
on
the
road:
that's
three
Orchard
Lane
Beverly,
Lane,
yeah
yeah,
so
hello,
Wayne
Marie.
The
historic
district
commission
is
requesting
the
invitation
to
discuss
certification,
2347,
install
fence,
there's
concern
file.
Installation
does
not
meet
the
stipulation
which
states
owner
will
adjust
big
events
to
Shield
visibility
of
chain
link
faster.
Would
you
be
able
willing
to
discuss
with
commission
at
a
meeting
during
Zoom
and
she
sent
it
out
again
today?
A
Please
let
you
hear
my
note
here:
Peter
I
know
if
you're
attending
tonight's
HTC
meeting
to
discuss
the
finished
fence
construction,
his
relationship
with
stipulations
within
the
approval
commission
may
move
forward
with
an
enforcement
action
among
your
practices.
She
did
contact
us,
but
I
do
not
she's
here.
Oh
there
we
go
so
so
there
we
go.
A
D
A
Neighbor
reaching
out
so
I.
Remember
at
this
thing,
because
that
was
my
first
meeting
like
my
first
date.
I.
Remember
it
right
we're
very
clear
that
that
fence
had
to
be
shielded
from
public
View,
and
that
is
not
the
case
in
my
understanding
that
the
fence
was
to
be
shielded
up
to
God's,
my
neighbor
under
London
Road,
all
the
way
up
to
his
shed
and
not
necessarily
beyond
that,
which
is
why
I
did
it
the
way
that
I
added
picket
fence
so
that
went
further
but
not
but.
C
It
wasn't
my
understanding
and
actually
I,
do
remember
that
there
was
a
comment
from
one
of
the
members
of
the
board
that.
A
A
So
let
me
ask
you
this
in
the
interest
of
making
your
neighbor's
happy
and
you
satisfy
what
I
feel
is
the
can
we
say
the
rule
of
what's
written
on
the
HTC
handbook.
Would
you
be
willing
to
extend
the
picket
fence
further
so
that
the
chain
link
fence
is
not
visible
for
any
public
way?
A
I,
don't
think
it's
visible
now
it
is
so
if
I'm
coming
down
the
street,
where
the
library
is
Elm,
Street
and
I
and
I'm
at
that
intersection.
So
my
parents
live
on
Irving
Street
I
live
on
River
Road,
that's
kind
of
my
route
up
there.
It
is
completely
visible
from
that
intersection.
I'm
going
to
be
very
up
from
you.
It's
you're
saying
between
17
New,
London,
Road
and
19th
Orchard
that
when
I'm
on
Elm
Street
right
here
across
the
street,
so
that's
you,
okay,.
A
D
Like
yeah
I,
walk
that
way
and
I
think
you.
A
Have
to
stare
at
it
and
look
for
it.
I
also
know
that
I
talk
to
my
neighbor
about
it
and
we
were
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
do
flowers
to
cover.
You
know
to
make
her
happy
planting
about
a
neural
purview,
any.
D
A
Understand
that
but
I'm
just
trying
to
explain
to
you
what
the
conversation
was,
you
know
so
I
think
it'd
be
possible
to
come
back
with
some
pictures.
I
think
in
all
fairness
will
be
best
to
come
back
with
pictures
and
to
let
Miss
cats.
He
needs
to
be
here,
I.
Think
since
she's,
the
one
brought
it
to
our
attention.
She
should
have
the
right
to
say
something:
I
think
that's
only
fair!
That's
fine,
because
I
literally
did
not
see
the
email.
C
A
C
B
A
The
photos
right
so
so
if
there
is
a
change
at
least
we
know,
you're,
changing
and
I'm,
not
sure
she'll
be
happy
what
happened,
because
even
the
part
that
her
house
walks
she's
not
happy
about
it.
So,
just
to
be
honest
about
that
I,
you
know
this
completely
is
I.
Had
the
conversation
this
summer.
With
her
never
heard,
anything
else
tried
to
go
back
and
forth
about
planting,
because
it
was
her
suggestion
and.
A
A
So
I'm
going
to
go
just
purely,
and
these
are
all
great
ideas-
and
you
know
part
of
my
conversation,
I'd
say
with
both
of
you
is
way
outside
my
previous.
Just
as
a
resident
saying,
hey
can
neighbors
be
neighborly
and
come
up
with
that,
but
but
that
that's
not
I
have
no
authority
over
that.
What
we
do,
a
30
on
the
HTC
frankly
is
chain
link,
fences
aren't
permitted,
an
exception
was
made
for
you.
A
The
application
says
must
be
blocked
from
public
View
and
we'll
decide
if
it
is,
or
as
an
I
say
it
is
you
say
it's
not.
Let's
we'll
meet
on
that
and
the
CLA
says
that
the
picket
fence
will
cover
it.
So
we're
going
to
get
very
I'd
say
just
Downs.
What's
written,
it
appears
there
may
be
a
violation
of
the
certificate
of
appropriateness,
possibly
we're
not
there
yet
I'm
just
saying
so
so.
A
Wall
plannings
I
mean,
if
that's
something
you
and
her
come
up
with
and
agree
to
outside
of
here,
that
that's
not
our
in
our
purview,
I,
don't
believe
to
to
decide.
If
she's
going
to
pick
the
ball
you're
going
to
play
and
our
provides
or
a
plant
or
flowers
I
mean
that's
that's
outside
of
us.
What
comes
out
enforcement
of
us
is
the
way
the
COA
is
right.
No,
but
if
it's
not
visible
View,
then
she
can
put
a
chain
link
fence
anywhere.
She
wants
so
all
I.
All
I
was.
A
A
And
I
have
a
different
understanding
of
what
the
certificate
required
based
on
what
occurred
at
the
meeting
when
the
certificate
was
approved.
D
When
the
board
came
for
we,
we
went
through
this
for
four
months
back
and
forth
with
the
fence
everybody
was
here,
it
was
approved.
We
actually
added
an
extra
six
feet
of
picket
fence,
because
everybody
was
saying
that
we
could
see
it
from
the
area
that
you're
talking
about
so
the
Nate
Scott,
and
they
were
on
the
directly
on
the
side
of
us.
We
went
all
the
way
to
his
second,
the
Lord's
unit
that
he
had
in
there.
D
So
when
she
called
in
for
a
coffee
that
morning
to
discuss
everything
that
was
going
on
way
back
when
she
said
that
she
didn't
have
a
problem
with
it,
because
she
was
going
to
add
an
extra
level
to
her
rock
bands,
because
she
didn't
want
to
see
the
Ben
when
she
looked
down
her
back
door
is
that's
basically
the
issue.
She
doesn't
want
to
sit
on
her
porch
and
see
a
chain
link
fence.
She
said
it's
not
nice,
it's
ugly,
it's
her
words!
D
D
Agreed
for
four
months
we
were
going
through
this.
They
agreed
to
how
we
you
know,
how
are
we,
you
know
not
going
compliant
when
in
fact
she
closed
her
over
for
coffee
and
muffin
to
discuss.
She
didn't
like
it
when
she
sit
down
reporting
the.
A
But
then
a
view
of
a
public
way,
it
doesn't
say
anything
about
her
backyard.
So
if
she
has
to
sit
on
her
back
porch
and
look
at
your
chain
link
fence,
that's
her
role
and
the
complaint
that
came
to
me
said
she
came
well
I,
don't
know
if
she
came
to
office
but
I'm
going
to
return.
Her
email
was
that
she
could
see
it
from
the
public
view,
you're
right
if
the
complaint
would
have
been
from
the
back
porch.
It's
not
my
my
issue.
It's
not
our
issue.
A
A
C
A
Measurements,
if,
if
it's
a
lot
bigger
section,
then
it's
a
different
you
know.
Maybe
it
changes
the
discussion
of
the
narrative
but
and
Andrew
if
I
can
play
if
it's
allowed
and
all
that
I'm
not
willing
to
meet
you
I'm
actually
off
tomorrow,
we
can
look
at
it
together.
If
that's
okay,
I'll
have
to
do
that
with
the.
A
What
about
yourself
right,
yeah,
all
right,
I
mean
if
you
want
I'll,
yeah
I
you'll,
be
here
I'm
in
Hartford,
okay,
I'll
make
sure
you
have
my
number
before
you
go.
Don't
stress
all
the
stuff
you
can't
see
because
that's
that's!
Okay!
Our
only
focuses.
A
You
can
zoom
in
I
mean
you
could
zoom
in
too
if
she
contacts
you
once
a
week.
So
whenever
these
guys
know
so,
are
we
gonna
schedule
for
the
next
meeting
then
and
I'll
just
tell
her?
She
have
to
be
president
of
the
next
video
with
pictures.
D
B
A
A
Fourth,
exmissions
appears
that's
going
to
be
your
job.
By
the
way.
The
minutes
guy
I,
moved
to
approve
the
minutes
from
October
18th,
all
in
favor
Livingston,
all
right,
Brady,
aye,
Goodman,
aye,
Ferguson,
hi,
good
Rich
hi.
That
commits
our
brute
any
other
old
business.
B
A
A
That's
nervous
yeah
I,
I'm,
Ted,
Houston
I
live
at
25,
Western,
Avenue
I
said:
I
walked
downtown
to
have
dinner
and
I
noticed
that
banking
Bridge
has
lighted
their
glucose
sign
and
I
recall
being
at
a
meeting
where
we.
A
A
B
I
wanted
to
clear
that,
so
why
can't
it's
lit
up
now?
I
bet
yeah.
B
A
Saw
their
application
and
I
saw
you
guys,
say
you,
you
said
you
think
of
like
the
the
post
sign
which
they
have
well.
We
also
told
him
he
could
like
that
sign
if
he
had
directional
light
pointing
at
the
sign,
but
not
a
backless,
and
what
did
Tom
say
at
the
last
thing,
didn't
he
say
that
he
was
not
lighting
the
sign
or
he
said
he
would
not
like
the
sign
anymore
and
Tom
I.
C
A
Not
doing
it
that
he's
doing
tonight
leaves
at
4
30.,
so
it's
a
really
dark.
No
a
couple
of
weeks
so
can
Tom
just
send
him
another
letter
saying
you
cannot
light
it.
I
mean
it's
because
we
had
a
complaint
from
somebody
given
what
David
was
that
saw
it
lit
up
and
Saturday
night.
Our
game
was
on
October
one
29th.
D
A
A
Is
it
possible
going
forward
and
I
had
asked
for
this
before,
but
Sarah
turned
it
down?
Is
there
a
way
we
could
do
like
a
by
whatever
it
is
a
meeting
report
that
just
like
I,
don't
like
a
as
whatever
report.
C
A
A
A
A
This
oversight
body
work,
I've,
noticed
in
town,
I,
walk
my
dog
everywhere.
All
the
historic
sidewalks
are
now
being
like:
trees
are
being
planted
there.
People
are
extending
their
yard
out
the
road
and
taking
over
the
historic
sidewalk.
Do
they
fall
into
the
proof
under
the
air
over
all
those
things
that
can,
and
it
can't
be
done,
because
when
they
do
do
this,
you
must
walk
into
the
street
around
their
property
and
they
are
part
of
our
historical
nature
of
the
Town
yeah.
A
You
just
so
are
they
making
their
lawns
grow
out
of
their
overlay?
Here's
the
sidewalk
normally
and
then
there's
the
lawn
growing
over
there.
So
sorry
we're
properly
line
enzymatistic,
typically
you're,
going
to
find
random
walks
that
were
originally
there,
that
everything
was
branded
blocks
from
the
road
we're
going
to
store
recyclable.
We
walked
in
the
entire
world,
whatever
competing
they're.
Actually,
mostly
town
right
away
is
also
yeah.
So
now
what's
happening,
is
people
playing
shrubs
taking
you
know
taking
their
front
walls
out
to
that
area
and
flowers?
C
A
You
mean
like
this
street,
you
name
it
all.
The
mystics
from
People's
Front
walls
out
those
those
words
yeah
type
of
sidewalks
they
built.
Are
they.
A
C
D
You
put
code
lines
close
rides
at
the
edge
of
that,
so
we
go
to
Lane
very
narrow,
so
you
can't
nobody
can
talk,
because
it's
basically
that
threat
that
they
put
and
then
put
me
around,
but
that's
an
average
they're
planting
all
trees
there
and
they
put
this
particular
person
for
clothesline
and
actually
curtain
rods
and
it's
all
metal.
You
can't
see
it
at
night.
Somebody
almost
killed
himself
getting
out
of
the
car
walking
downtown.
They
Park
up
there
when
there's
an
event
downtown
yep.
D
A
Restricting
the
access
to
the
public,
so
I'll
say
Something's
Gonna,
probably
be
very
unpopular,
but
it
boils
down
to
the
town
doing
something
about
it.
We
just
went
through
with
the
park
place
so
park
place
that
probably
water
access
and
every
neighbor
took
over
the
town
right
away,
planted
shrubs
and
anybody
tries
to
park
to
launch
a
kayak.
They
say:
you're
parking,
my
property
went
down
right
away,
went
to
the
Town
Council.
They
did
nothing
about
it.
So.