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From YouTube: Groton Historic District Commission 5/18/21
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Historic District Commission May 18, 2021. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/file/getfile/52949
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B
A
Chair
of
the
commission
is
todd
brady
tonight
host
of
the
webinars,
the
building
officials
staff
attending.
This
meeting
include
peters
of
english
and
linda
galetta.
Anyone
speaking
should
state
their
names
prior
to
speaking
each
time.
The
panelists
in
this
webinar
meeting
will
be
the
commission
members
and
the
building
staff
panelists,
who
would
like
to
comment
on
an
item
should
indicate
such
by
using
the
icon
to
raise
hand
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
A
After
a
panelist
raises
their
hand,
they
will
be
able
to
comment
one
at
a
time
when
called
upon
by
the
chairperson
panelists
should
mute
their
microphones
until
called
upon
families
calling
into
this
meeting
by
telephone
may
raise
or
lower
their
hand,
by
pressing
star
9
and
to
mute
or
unmute.
Your
call
press
star
6.
A
A
The
public
will
be
asked
to
raise
their
hand
during
public
communications.
They
want
to
speak
at
the
time
by
using
the
ipad
to
raise
hand
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
The
public
will
be
called
upon
by
the
host
one
at
a
time
and
will
be
able
to
speak
during
this
time.
Attendees
must
identify
themselves
before
speaking.
C
704
on
may
18
2021
and
I'm
going
to
point
bill
ferguson
to
sit
for
sarah
moriarty
who's.
Not
here
today,
I'm
going
to
read
now
read
the
notice
of
the
public
notice
of
the
hearing.
Dear
matt
peace,
please
publish
the
following
public
notice
of
one
insertion
on
monday
may,
10
2021
county
grant
notice
the
public
hearing
historic
district
commission.
C
The
historic
district
commission
will
hold
a
public
hearing
on
tuesday
may
18th
2021
at
7
pm,
virtually
via
the
zoom
platform,
to
hear
the
following
applications
requesting
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
htc,
21-21
nine
park
place.
Jamie
masterson
owner
applicant,
restore
front
porch,
pin
number
two:
six
one:
nine
one:
four:
four:
two:
five:
six:
five:
seven
htc
21-2250
west
mystic
avenue
kirsten
suit
for
sut
owner
applicant,
replace
windows
and
doors,
pin
number
two:
six
one:
eight
zero,
five,
two
seven
one:
six,
nine
four
htc
21-23
49
west.
D
C
Three,
one,
two,
six,
two:
six,
six,
seven
nine
nine
applications
are
on
file
and
available
for
public
inspection
during
normal
business
hours
at
the
planning
department,
134
groton
long
point,
road,
groton,
connecticut,
dated
the
seventh
day
of
may
2021
at
granton,
connecticut,
todd
brady
secretary,
okay,
so
the
our
first
hearing
will
be
on
hdc
21-24
latham
street
eva
marie
hildebrand
is
miss
hildebrand
here
or
william
biden.
The
applicant.
C
Okay,
well
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item
and
we'll
revisit
this
on
the
assumption
that
one
or
the
other
of
them
will
show
up
later.
Htc
21-21
nine
park
place
jamie
masterson
owner
applicant,
restore
front.
Porch
is
jamie
here.
Yes,
I'm
here,
oh
great,
okay,
jamie,
so
that
you're
going
right
to
a
public
hearing.
I
don't
think
we've
heard
from
you
before
on
this,
so
you
introduce
yourself
and
then
just
go
right
through
and
tell
us
what
you're
you're
asking
to
do.
F
C
F
F
G
C
Okay,
if
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong
anyone
else
on
the
commission,
but
if,
in
fact
you
are
replacing
what
is
there
with
the
same
thing
that
is
already
there
and
the
materials
are
the
same,
then
you
I
don't
suppose
we
really
need
any
drawings.
However,
if
you
intend
to
replace
the
front
concrete
steps,
you
need
to
tell
us
that
that's
what
you
intend
to
do
and
is
there
are
there
some
wooden
steps
that
we
can
look
at
on
these.
F
C
F
F
F
C
C
C
H
F
H
C
I
I
The
project
that
is
going
to
be
starting
in
june
is
a
kitchen
renovation
and
the
kitchen
renovations
will
impact
some
of
the
exterior
of
the
home.
So
this
evening
I
am
requesting
I'm
going
to
show
you
this
evening.
The
proposed
windows
that
are
going
to
be
changed.
We
are
closing
in
a
door
and
putting
in
a
door
in
the
back
of
the
house.
So
that
is
what
we're
going
to
be
discussing
this
evening.
I
I
I
I
C
L
K
J
I
C
J
I
C
C
G
I
J
I
C
Yeah,
which
means
which
means
that
we
really
are
going
to
need
to
see
some
some
specifications
or
drawings
or
whatever,
that
show
the
windows,
especially
in
the
sense
that,
because
you're,
replacing
double
hung
windows
with
casement
windows,
it's
not
that
it's
not
that
you
wouldn't
necessarily
get
approval
for
that,
but
we
we're
really
kind
of
given
that
we
think
you
probably
can
see
this
from
some
public
way.
And
quite
honestly,
if
there
are
trees
or
whatever
that
block
of
view
that
doesn't
matter,
the
assumption
has
to
be
that
there
are
no.
C
C
C
H
C
I
C
C
As
far
as
we
were
concerned,
you
were
gone
okay,
so
if
you,
if
you
guys
wouldn't
mind,
just
put
that
stuff
that
information
together
and
then
get
it
to
linda
as
quickly
as
possible,
I
would
say
really
in
the
next
two
days
or
so
I
would
get
it
in
and
submit
it
absolutely
and
what
would
the
next
steps
be
after
we
did
that
you
would
come
back
and
well.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
the
first
tuesday
of
june.
I
I
C
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N
C
A
G
C
O
O
G
O
Okay,
I
like
to
say
hi
all,
as
you
know,
I'm
here
tonight
to
get
permission
to
install
a
shed
at
four
lashing
street.
I
have
identified
two
existing
sheds
in
town
that
have
been
already
approved
by
this
board.
I
plan
to
install
a
similar
shed
to
these
two,
knowing
that
this
design
already
meets
the
requirements
of
the
historical.
O
C
O
G
O
E
P
K
O
C
O
C
O
Right
well,
another
thing
too
todd.
I
guess
so.
The
sheds
70
feet
from
high
street
and
actually
there's
a
tree
there
and
you're
only
going
to
see
the
front
of
the
shed
really
and
70
feet
basically
from
latham
street,
and
you
know
I'm
70
feet
away
all
painted
white.
You
might
not
even
see
that
seam
that's
going
down
on
that
door,
whatever
it
is
that
t11
plywood.
O
So
I
mean
I've
read
your.
I
can
understand
what
you
guys
are
trying
to
do
and
I
agree
with
you
you're
trying
to
keep
things.
You
know
historical
around
here.
That's
fine
and
I
I
look
at
the
historical
outbuildings
thing
here
and
they
talk
about
vertical
board
batten,
wood,
shingles,
siding
it's
all
right
here
I
mean
you
have
a
lot
of
other
materials
that
I've
heard,
azac
and
other
stuff
you
guys
have
since
then
have
recognized.
So
I
don't
you
know,
I
don't
see
any
of
that
listed
here.
J
P
You're
proving
any
of
these
prefab
sheds,
I
think
people
should
have
to
come
with
something
that's
a
little
more
in
keeping
with
the
different
outbuildings
of
the
the
area
and
the
time
periods.
That's
my
opinion,
but
the
reality
is
you're
not
going
to
do
that.
So
I
think,
if
anything,
though,
we
should
at
least
try
to
limit
the
materials.
That's
my
opinion.
O
O
J
O
C
O
O
C
C
That's
rustic,
it
might
be
rustic
after
takes
a
beating
in
the
storm,
but
not
particularly
so
initially
so
so
anyway.
So
you
just
just
let
us
know
how
you
want
it,
how
you
want
to
characterize
the
application
and
then
we'll
we'll
close
the
hearing
on
this
and
then
when
we
get
to
it,
we'll
vote.
So
just
tell
me
when
you.
C
H
O
G
O
G
C
C
I
don't
know
I'm
comfortable
if,
if
even
at
this
point,
if
you
agree
to
put
a
batten
on
which
is
wider
than
the
existing
groove
in
the
texture
111,
so
that
it
covers
it,
so
that
then,
what
we
look
at
is
we
look
at
what
looks
like?
Basically,
what
could
otherwise
have
been
a
series
of
vertical
boards
with
battens,
covering
the
intersection
of
the
vertical
boards.
C
O
C
G
O
C
H
C
D
Sure
my
name
is
tabitha
harkin,
I'm
the
community
and
neighborhood
planner
for
the
department
of
the
office
of
planning
and
developmental
services
at
the
town
of
croton,
and
what
we're
doing
is
we
are
continuing
on
our
wayfinding
strategy.
I
don't
know
if
some
of
you
have
already
seen
some
of
the
signs
around
town.
F
D
We
will
have
a
family
of
different
wayfinding
signs
throughout
the
town
of
groton,
and
this
is
one
of
our
of
the
signs
and
locations
that
we
hope
to
refurbish
with
the
new
stylized
standard.
So
it's
an
existing
sign,
that's
in
front
of
bank
square
books
downtown
and
it's
an
interpretive
sign
now
and
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
to
refurbish
it
with
the
new
style
and
put
a
little
kind
of
new
england
style.
Clapper
roof
shingled
roof
on
top
of
it,
and
so
there's
drawings
right.
So
you
have
the
picture
there.
D
That's
circling
the
existing
sign
and
then
I
think
the
next
yeah
that's
also
the
existing
conditions
and
then
that
that's
the
proposed
sign,
which
is
in
development
right
now,
we're
working
with
the
designers
on
that.
But
we
wanted
to
come
before
you
and
talk
about
it
and
we
have
the
owner's
approval.
D
C
D
D
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C
J
C
G
C
P
P
No,
no,
I
just
I
was
getting.
I
remembered
this
because
it
came
up.
We
had
a
lengthy
conversation
about
the
sign
where
the
old
grossmans
used
to
be
next
to
mystic
market
yeah,
and
we
went
back
and
forth
on
and
don.
I
remember
you
had
some
concerns
about
it
and
then
the
sign
that's
up.
There
is
the
same
size,
but
like
all
the
lettering
and
everything
that's
on
it
is
all
different,
and
I
just
was
curious.
P
C
K
P
P
C
C
Q
Q
Sphero
sparrows
owner
of
three
pearl
street
in
downtown
mystic,
which
is
right
across
from
the
harp
and
hound.
There's
two
store
fronts
on
the
street
right
now
they
have
ac
units
that
sit
right
above
the
front.
Doors
of
the
store,
they've
been
there
for
many
many
years
and
we'd
like
to
install
mitsubishi
compressors
for
air
conditioning
and
supplemental
heating,
and
the
only
place
to
put
the
units
is
on
the
side
of
the
building
or
about.
G
C
J
G
G
Q
Q
Q
Q
C
C
It's
going
to
be
pretty
obvious
when
you
look
at
the
side
of
the
building,
I
mean
we
have
obviously
allowed
line,
sets
to
go
up
the
sides
of
houses.
I
don't
know
if
you've
done
any
brick
buildings
yet,
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
done
any
horizontal
ones
and
I'm
also
a
little
dubious
about
it,
going
across
the
face
of
the
brick
and
then
doing
a
90
into
the
window.
Opening
I'm
just
not
quite
sure
what
that's
going
to
look
like
sparrows.
C
Q
C
J
C
C
C
Q
Q
Q
G
M
C
Q
C
We
we
have
a
yellow
mark,
we're
looking
at
a
photo.
You
say
you
can't
see
what
we're
looking
at,
but
we're
looking
at
a
photo,
a
photograph
of
the
side
of
the
building.
It
shows
the
clabbered
rear,
whatever
it
is
the
material
and
it
shows
two
yellow
squares
that
denote
the
location
of
the
condensers
right,
but
there's
no,
I
don't
see
any
drawing
on
here.
That
shows
the.
G
G
Q
Q
C
Q
A
C
Q
A
C
C
Q
Q
C
Well,
I
apologize
for
that
or
for
whatever
happened
or
didn't
happen,
but
if
I
think,
if
you,
if
you
come
back
and
give
us
the
photos,
work
we're
talking
about
and
and
then
what
we
really
need
for
evidence
is
to
take
that
drawing.
That
shows
those
two
compressors
spiros,
which
is
the
drawing
above
this
photo
or
the
photo
and
and
go
up
the
wall
with
a
yellow
line.
If
you
like
and
show
us
where
the
two
line
sets
are
going
to
go
through
the
brick
okay.
G
C
B
C
C
J
P
P
E
J
P
There
are
so
the
plan
is
to
if
you
can
zoom
back
out
or
go
up
peter
a
little
bit
up.
If
you
look
at
that
panel
in
the
bottom
right
of
that
top
left
elevation,
there's
a
larger
panel
to
the
right
of
the
stairs
on
the
bottom
peter.
If
you
want
to
just
scroll
over
that
below
the
double
windows,
nope
nope
other
way
go
back.
Look
at
the
stairs,
nope
nope
up!
Sorry
put
your
cursor
on
the
stairs
peter
and
then
go
to
the
panel
to
the
right.
P
J
P
P
P
P
J
P
K
J
C
M
This
structure
was
built
in
the
late
19th
century
and
has
been
subject
to
several
renovations.
Over
the
years.
Many
of
the
renovations
have
been
inconsistent
with
its
extort
with
its
historic
nature.
More
specifically,
the
windows,
some
of
the
interior,
framing
the
exterior,
though
in
terms
of
its
siding
and
obviously
its
roofing.
M
Its
siding
in
details
is,
is
more
or
less
intact,
but
in
poor
condition
and
the
roof
is
now
an
asphalt,
shingle
roof
which
it
probably
wasn't
back.
Then
we
are
proposing
to
replace
the
existing
siding
with
new
vertical
board
and
batten,
siding,
which
would
be
typical
of
a
late
19th
century
utility
structure.
M
M
M
M
Here
on
the
this
is
the
actually
the
southern
gable
end,
but
the
the
detail
work
will
remain
at
the
eve
lines,
as
I
mentioned
the
same
at
the
uppermost
portion
of
the
gable
we're
leaving
the
exposed,
rafter
tails
and
the
sort
of
crinoline
detail
that
goes
across
the
gable
you'll
see
in
my
drawings
also
is
retained.
This
is
the
side
that
re
receives
the
deck
and
the
deck
is
toward
the
eastern
part
of
that
this
is
the
western
elevation
that
staircase
goes
away.
M
The
fence
line
represents
the
property
line
approximately
so
now
the
adjacent
neighbor
people
will
not
be
going
up
and
down
the
stair
or
entering
that
unit.
On
the
second
floor
from
the
western
side,
but
from
the
southern
side,
this
is
the
northern
side,
the
same
thing
in
terms
of
the
southern
side
in
terms
of
restoring
the
details
at
the
gable,
as
well
as
the
fretwork
along
the
the
where
the
gable
meets
the
second
floor.
M
M
This
is
a
photograph
or
a
product,
literature
photograph
from
indicating
the
decking.
Actually
it
it's.
If
you're
not
familiar
with
timbertech,
it
used
to
be
azac
decking,
it's
now
timbertech
and
it's
remarkably
nice.
It
has
a
beautiful
sort
of
pre-made
patina
to
it.
To
begin
with
that,
I
don't
want
to
say
it's
pre-aged,
but
for
a
composite
material,
it's
quite
striking
and
requires
a
minimal
amount
of
maintenance.
M
This
is
an
example
of
the
board
and
batten,
siding
that
we'll
be
using
again.
I
know
you're
not
concerned
with
colors,
but
we
are
proposing
to
paint
the
building
a
burgundy
color,
with
a
contrasting
azac
trim
with
a
historic,
but
each
window
will
have
an
historic
azac
sill.
The
contrasting
trim
will
be
a
color
known.
As
of
all
things
I
mentioned
before,
mystic
page.
M
M
M
C
C
M
M
C
C
Okay,
htc
21-26
to
prospect
street
is
closed
and
there
being
no
other
hearings.
The
public
portion
of
this
meeting
is
closed
at
8
19
on
may
18.,
and
now
we'll
just
go
back
to
the
beginning
and
consider
the
seven
applications
less
one
when
it
was
continued.
So
first
one
is
hdc
21-20.
This
is
for
latham
street,
eva
marie
hildebrand
owner
william
biden
applicant.
J
C
Goodman
no
brady
hi,
okay,
the
motion
is,
is
past.
Four
to
one
hdc
21-21
nine
park
place
jamie
masterson
owner
applicant.
This
is
the
request
to
restore
the
front
porch
identically
to
with
the
materials
and
the
configuration
the
same
as
existing
with
the
addition
additional
thing
of
removing
the
concrete
steps
and
replacing
them
with
like
kind
of
steps
with
fur
treads.
O
C
L
C
G
C
P
J
C
C
P
G
G
I
G
L
C
L
C
Goodman,
oh
you're,
a
cube
eric
good
mr
recused
himself,
levinson
hi,
nalt,
hi
brady.
I
okay,
htc
21-215
is
passed
hdc
21-26
to
prospect
street
steven
casella
owner
wayne
garrick
applicant.
This
is
the
application
to
renovate
the
second
structure
at
to
prospect
street
any
discussion
or
comments
from
the
commission.
C
L
E
G
E
G
E
C
C
C
E
B
J
B
B
C
C
B
Let
me
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
the
project
in
the
plan
and
then
hopefully,
chad
can
jump
on
and
assist
so
again
trying
to
replace
right
now.
If
you
walk
around
the
coastal
area
in
mystic,
there's
those
kind
of
typical,
oh
hey
there.
We
go
excellent,
the
kind
of
typical,
almost
the
deep,
blue
signs,
deep,
not
as
in
like
a
deep
blue
but
the
eep
department
of
environmental
protection
for
connecticut.
They
gave
us
those
traditional
signs
identifying
a
coastal
access
area.
A
lot
of
them
came
down.
They
go
missing.
B
B
Oh,
thank
you
pete
all
right
pete's,
my
hero
tonight,
so,
as
you
can
see
going
through
here,
some
of
these
areas,
we
are
looking
at
along
the
mystic
museum
of
art
property
along
the
right
by
the
drawbridge.
I
think
some
of
these
signs-
and
you
can
see
where
there's
not
really
uniformity
in
identifying
what
some
of
these
areas
are
to
the
general
public.
It's
really
hard
to
figure
out
what
the
connection
is.
B
And
again,
the
more
that
we
can
do
to
enhance
public
access
in
downtown
mystic,
it's
going
to
help
businesses.
It
can
help
tourism
it's
going
to
help
connecting
people
to
what
is
along
the
coastline
next
slide,
and
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
were
looking
at
in
some
of
these
signs
were
not
just
creating
another
boring
sign,
but
something
that's
unique,
something
that
really
speaks
to
the
history
of
mystic
and
with
this
one
in
particular
that
you're
looking
at.
B
So
all
of
you
know,
ship
building
and
the
knee
of
a
ship
and
how
that
is
working
within
the
inside
of
the
ship.
So
if
pete
goes
to
the
next
slide,
we're
actually
looking
at
how
we
can
use
that
concept
of
a
ship's
knee
on
some
of
our
more
really
outstanding
signs,
the
ones
that
are
going
to
really
jump
out
in
some
key
locations,
whether
they're
on
the
ground
or
hanging
on
buildings,
and
these
would
be
sizable
signs
that
you
know
some
identifying
that
coastal
walkway
through
mystic
and
yeah.
B
I
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point,
but
that's
kind
of
the
general
design
we're
looking
at.
If
you
want
to
jump
to
the
next
slide
pete,
so
you
know
one
good
example.
So,
right
now
on
the
side
of
that
building,
there's
just
a
very
boring
metal
sign
that
says
coastal
public
access
having
that
ship's
knee
design
is
something
that
we
really
think
will
stand
out
and
work
within
the
historic
character
of
downtown
mystic.
C
J
B
Sorry
I
hit
mute
the
mystic
river
walk,
so
we're
also
trying
to
look
at
some
color
schemes
that
we
can
have
so
some
areas.
We
would
have
that
sign
in
other
areas,
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
best
design
is,
whether
it
would
be
in
some
areas,
a
stripe
that
would
be
on
the
ground
that
people
could
follow
or
on
some
of
the
the
the
columns
along
the
walkway,
the
actual
the
the
posts
that
we
can
actually
wrap.
L
B
B
Yeah
correct
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
bill
for
pointing
that
out.
So
that's
part
of
it
and
then,
as
you'll
notice
as
pete
goes
to
the
next
slides,
there's
some
of
that
worked
into
some
of
the
other
areas
of
what
we're
looking
to
identify.
So
if
you
look
at
in
the
background,
you'll
see
or
below
that
next
ship's
knee
sign
there's
some
striping
on
the
ground.
B
B
And
we're
still
working
on
the
size
for
those,
because
we
want
it
to
be
something
that
is
eye-catching
and
is
permanent
and
also
something
that
doesn't
walk
away
overnight,
because
that
is
you
know,
I'm
sure
many
of
you
are
familiar
with
the
issue,
the
issue
of
coastal
access
and
many
times
and
we've
seen
it
in
downtown
mystic.
This
area
was
signed
much
better
in
the
past.
P
P
C
H
H
C
One
thing
I
just
would
point
out:
that
was
my
marina
that
you
just
showed
up
there.
The
next
slide,
if
you
slide
up
and
the
only
thing
I'd
be
a
little
careful
about
in
terms
of
say,
wrapping
any
of
these
things
is,
there
could
be
some
issues
with
lines
from
boats
that
get
attached.
You
know
they're
going
to
destroy
it,
that
they're
going
to
get
torn
up
so
you'd
want.
B
Right
now
we're
trying
to
get
you
know
all
of
our
ducks
in
a
row,
and
you
know
the
historic
district
commission
is
obviously
a
a
big
one
of
those
things
that
before
we
move
too
far
forward,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
all
understand
what
it
is
we're
trying
to
do,
but
I
think
that's
a
great
point.
We
don't
want
to
put
something
in
an
area
where
it's
just
going
to
get
ripped
up
by
ropes.
C
B
L
B
B
Next
slide
and
this
coastal
access
trail
is
certainly
not
complete.
It
is
something
that
every
time
we
get
an
application
for
a
property
in
this
area
along
the
coast
that
is
changing
from
a
non-water
dependent
use
or
if
it's
an
existing
non-water
dependent
use
and
is
expanding
or
changing
their
use.
Somehow
we
can
work
with
them
to
get
further
public
access
along
the
coast.
B
J
C
C
C
K
I
don't
have
anything
downloaded,
but
I
have
a
picture
of
the
garage
door
that
you'd
like
to
use
and
again
the
cedar.
Impressions
is
a
you
know:
vinyl
siding
product
that
looks
like
the
wood
shingles,
that's
on
the
main
house
and
there's
also
a
white
five
quarter
painted
white
trim
on
the
existing
house.
So
we
want
to
make
the
garage
look
like
the
existing
house
to
hopefully
keep
it
within
the
parameters
that
you
guys
would
like
to
have.
C
Okay,
well,
it's
I
mean
it
certainly
sounds
like
a
reasonable
application,
but
it's
it's
difficult
for
us
to
sort
of
comment.
If
we
don't
have
any,
I
mean
what
we
really
need
is.
If
you
talk
to
linda,
you
know
which
I
guess
you
already
have.
You
know
they
should
give
you
sheets
that,
show
you
exactly
what
you
have
to
show
us,
so
a
site
plan,
photographs
of
the
the
house,
the
garage,
the
adjoining
neighbors.
G
K
C
What
you
have
to
do
now,
because
all
these
meetings
are
you
know,
are
held
online
on
zoom.
Is
you
have
to
get
your
full
submission
with
all
the
exhibits
to
what
you
can
send?
I
guess
linda
sent
them
to
you
and
they
go
to
tom
santorini,
who
puts
them
together
so
that
we
can
view
them
during
the
meeting.
C
But
you've,
if
you
say,
wanted
to
come
to
the
next
meeting,
we've
got
to
have
that
in
hand
pretty
quickly
if
you're
coming
back
for
a
preliminary
linda,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
if
he's
coming
back
for
a
preliminary,
if
he
got
it
in
in
it's
just
so
you
had
enough
time
to
be
able
to
show
it
to
us
at
the
meeting
or
he
can
share
it
with
us
himself.
Can
he
not
if
he
gets
on
his
computer.
C
K
I
I
don't
actually
again.
All
I
have
is
on
my
computer.
All
I
had
was
the
cedar
impressions
pulled
up
and
I
have
a
picture
of
the
garage
door
just
in
a
brochure,
so
I
don't
think
I
could
do
that
without
showing
you
that
with
my
camera
on
my
phone,
so
I
would
I
would
be
happy.
When
is
the
next
meeting,
that
I
could
get
this
information
ready
for
two.