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From YouTube: Groton Historic District Commission 3/2/21
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Historic District Commission March 2, 2021. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/meeting/details/1127
A
This
meeting
the
historic
district
commission
will
take
place
in
a
webinar
format
through
zoom.
The
chair
of
the
commission
is
sarah
moriarty.
The
host
of
the
webinar
is
building
officials
staff
attending
this
meeting
include
peters
of
england
and
linda
galetta.
Anyone
speaking
should
state
their
names
prior
to
speaking.
A
Each
time
panelists
in
this
webinar
meeting
will
be
the
commission
members
of
the
building
staff
panelists,
who
would
like
to
comment
on
this
item
should
indicate
such
by
using
the
icon
to
raise
hand
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen
after
a
panelist
raises
their
hand,
they'll
be
able
to
comment
one
at
a
time
when
called
upon
by
the
chairperson
panelists
should
mute.
Their
microphones
until
called
upon
panelists
calling
into
the
meeting
by
telephone
may
raise
or
lower
their
hand
by
pressing
star
9
to
mute
or
unmute.
You
could
call
trusted
star
6.
A
to
make
a
motion
or
second
emotion.
Commission
members
can
raise
a
hand
and
be
acknowledged
by
the
host
of
chair
to
vote
on
a
motion.
Commission
members
will
be
called
upon
individually
by
the
chair
to
vote.
The
public
can
participate
in
the
meeting
during
the
public
communications
agenda
item.
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public
will
be
asked
to
raise
their
hand
during
public
communications
if
they
want
to
speak
at
this
time
by
using
the
icon
to
raise
hand
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
The
public
will
be
called
upon
by
the
host.
A
B
C
B
D
I'm
muted
hold
on
oh.
B
All
right
so
todd
if
you
would
read
the
call
please.
B
B
A
If
I
remember
correctly,
he
was
not
going
to
be
able
to
attend,
but
he
was
just
coming
back
to
give
us
the
pictures.
I
believe
for
this
one.
B
Oh,
is
that
what
it
is,
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
recollect
that
all
right,
so
we
have
an
application
to
replace
four
large
double
hook:
windows
on
the
first
floor
old
windows
have
four
seals:
do
not
have
tempered
glass
and
lower
sash
all.
D
B
Windows,
large
double
hunger
is
the
first
floor,
okay,
all
right
and
then,
if
I'm
sorry
peter,
if
you
can
just
slowly
scroll
through
so
it
feels
like
light
years
away
to
me.
Did
he
just
not
have
photos.
D
C
D
D
B
B
B
C
B
F
Before
I
begin,
thank
you
for
reaching
out
to
tom
last
week
after
the
pre-application
call
to
get
the
information
in
on
the
the
roofing
so
appreciate
that
very
much,
and
just
for
the
record,
I
think
you
said
17,
so
it's
15
library
for
the
record.
The
application
is
for
replacement
of
replacement
windows
and
roofing.
Based
on
the
conversation
that
we
had
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
really
nothing
has
changed
I'll,
be
glad
to
go
through
the
presentation.
F
The
only
two
things
that
have
changed
are
the
windows
that
I
think
eric.
You
suggested
that
we
go
a
little
shorter
on
the
windows
over
the
west
side
over
what
we're
hoping
will
be
the
new
steel
roof
to
make
room
for
the
for
the
pitch.
So
we're
looking
to
replace
28
windows
that
are
probably
about
30
years
old,
sash
pack
windows.
F
Add
two
windows:
all
the
windows
that
we're
going
to
add
are
going
to
be
two
over
twos
marvin,
elevate,
kind
of
their
mid
mid-level
series,
but
two
over
two,
which
we
think
brings
the
house
back
to
the
way
it
was
when
it
was
originally
built.
And
then
the
six
windows
in
the
bay
window.
Those
are
probably
original
to
the
house
and
they
will
be
custom
built
marvin
windows
to
look
identical
to
what
is
there
now
and
I'll
be
glad
to
go
through
whatever
you'd
like
me
to
go
through.
D
I'd
just
like
to
see
that
that
new
roof
line
sure
in
the
windows.
That's
all
I
want
to
see.
B
F
Sure,
absolutely
so
maybe
you
know
these
are
the
pictures
that
shown
right.
There
are
the
windows
that
are
in
there
right
now
and
the
door.
They
are
six
over
sixes,
they're,
anderson's,
sash
pack,
probably
25
or
so
years
old
leaky,
you
know
and
so
forth.
You
know
the
drill
on
that.
F
There
is
one
window,
the
upper
right
hand,
side
which
may
be
original
to
the
house,
not
exactly
sure
there
are
some
elements
to
that
window
that
make
us
think
it
isn't
original,
but
it
is
very
old
nonetheless,
so
we
think
we
think
that's
the
original
configuration
right
there,
the
that
will
look
identical,
we'll
have
two
over
twos
on
the
second
floor,
six
new
windows
in
the
bay
window,
the
attic
window
will
remain
the
same
and
the
front
door
will
remain
the
same.
F
Then
this
is
the
side
that
faces
downtown
the
high
street
side.
There
are
four
windows
on
that
side
and
one
door,
and
if
you
scroll
down
further,
so
you
can
see
on
the
left,
that
is
the
current
configuration
then
I
did
my
best
with
photoshop.
On
the
right
hand,
side
we
would
like
to
add
a
window
upper
left
corner
that
will
be
identical
size
to
the
other
two
on
the
second
floor
and
then
add
a
window
on
the
right
side,
which
will
be
at
the
bottom
of
the
staircase.
F
F
We
want
to
eliminate
the
window,
that's
kind
of
closest
to
you
on
that
side.
It's
a
mud
room
to
provide
some
additional
wall
space
to
put
in
some
cabinetry
and
then
take
what
is
the
kitchen
window
now,
which
is
a
double
window
and
turn
it
into
a
triple
and
then
looking
at
it
from
the
library
street
side.
The
three
windows
kind
of
closest
to
us
will
look,
you
know,
look
the
same
as
they
are
the
two
over
the
roof.
F
F
That's
all
the
unit
drawings.
F
So
an
aerial
shot,
everything
that
is
just.
What
do
you
call
it?
You
know
timberline
shingle
roof
everything
that
is
currently
shingled,
so
the
main
house
and
the
porch
and
the
mud
room
will
all
be
timberline
shingles
we're
trying
to
decide
now
between
the
hd
and
the
ultra
hd,
the
ultra
hd
being
a
little
thicker
and
has
a
130
mile
an
hour
wind
capacity.
F
And
then,
where
we
would
like
to
put
the
steel
roof
is,
on
the
right
hand,
side
there.
We
need
to
pitch
that
a
little
bit,
lift
it
up
somewhere
between
eight
and
ten
inches.
We're
still
in
the
process
of
designing
that,
but
there'll
be
a
slight
pitch
and
I
think
again
you
know
not
very
good
at
photoshop,
but
I
think
the
next
picture
I
tried
to
put
a
oh
yeah.
That's
the
I'm!
Sorry,
the
next
one.
So
that's
the
condition
of
the
roof.
Currently
we're
gonna
and
then
the
right
hand
side.
F
F
It'll
look
pretty
much
the
same
yeah,
not
a
huge
view
from
the
street,
although
when
you
do
come
down
library
towards
downtown,
you
will
be
able
to
see
the
roof
and
the
color.
We
are
suggesting
we're
still
kind
of
determining
that.
But
we'll
leave
either
be.
You
know
one
of
the
two
charcoal
grays
or
black,
although
we
are
leaning
towards
one
of
the
charcoal
grays.
D
F
F
Yeah
yeah,
so
those
are
the
timberlines
we're
going
with
the
trexel
steel
roof.
I
don't
I'm
familiar
with
timberline.
I
don't
know
anything
about
steel,
roofs,
but
john
henderson
is
the
suggested
contractor
to
do
the
roofing
and
he
likes
the
material,
and
I
like
him.
So
it
seems
like
seems
like
a
good.
F
F
And
I
think
the
last
page
is
actually
his.
Those
are
colors
and
I
think
the
last
page
is
his.
You
know
his
proposal.
F
C
C
Well,
now,
technically,
sarah,
if
he
wants
approval
for
this,
he
has
to
pick
the
colors
right.
B
I
I
know,
can
you
hear
me
I've
done
something
to
my
computer.
I
don't
know
okay,
I'm
not
sure
what
I'm
doing
here.
So
yes,
that's!
I
was
going
to
mention
that
so
you
have
these
two
various
shingle
roofs
that
you're
deciding
between
and
then
you
have
the
charcoal
gray
and
black
shingle
roof
that
you're
deciding
between
so
we're
trying
to
work
on
a
process
that
makes
this
a
little
more
streamlined.
B
But
you
have
to
choose
your
materials
for
us
to
be
able
to
approve
them
and
the
reason
I
I
reference
this
streamlined
process
that
we're
working
on
is,
if
you
choose
to
go
with
a
black
roof
after
you
have
it
then
there's
this
process
that
tom
santorini
is
working
on.
If
you
don't,
if
so,
you
don't
have
to
come
back
before
us,
but
you
do
have
to
actually
select
the
materials
that
you're
using
for
us
to
approve.
Okay,
so.
F
Left
one
which
is.
G
B
Okay,
so
we'll
just
you
know
that
will
be
part
of
your
approval
and
then,
if
you
decide
to
not
go
with
those,
then
there's
a
process
to
change
that.
Doesn't
that
doesn't
make
you
come
back.
B
C
B
No,
I
don't
okay.
Would
anyone
in
the
audience
like
to
speak
for
this
application?
B
Hdc
21-07
is
closed.
So
now
I
will
call
hdc
21-08-261
high
street
david
kala
owner
david
atkinson
applicant,
which
I
do
believe
I
saw
in
the
audience.
G
G
C
H
The
application
is
for
the
construction
of
a
24
by
24
foot
garage,
slash
carriage
house
at
the
corner
at
the
property
on
high
street
at
the
corner
of
high
and
godfrey.
The
carriage
house
will
essentially,
if
you
scroll
down.
So
your
right
here
is
the
the
24x24
house
will
be
accessed
from
an
existing
driveway,
actually
both
off
of
high
street
and
godfrey
street,
and
if
you
would
scroll
down
a
little
farther
there's
and
maybe
minimize
that
a
little
bit,
it's
essentially
a
square
with
a
small
studio
office.
H
On
the
second
floor,
the
owner
wishes
to
have
a
basically
vertical
siding
board
and
batten.
Look
gener
real
wood
painted
white
with
an
asphalt
shingle
one
garage,
one
16-foot
garage
door,
a
couple
of
windows
facing
the
street,
the
arched
window
facing
godfrey
street
if
you'd
scroll
down
a
little
bit
more.
It's
looking
at
the
anderson
400
series,
black
exterior
double
hung
window
similar
to
that
picture.
There.
H
The
certaintied
asphalt
shingles,
landmark
series,
georgetown,
gray,
scroll
down
a
bit
more,
that
type
of
garage
door
with
some
windows
up
high,
that
type
of
gooseneck
light
over
the
over
the
over
the
over
the
garage
doors
and
then
one
over
the
side
entrance
door
facing
the
house,
which
would
be
visible
in
profile
from
the
street.
H
H
There
well
the
if
you
scroll
farther
up
to
the
drawing
that's
the
actual
picture
of
what
what
it
will
look
like
that
right
there.
So
what
you'll
see
the
lower
right
is
the
what
you'd
see
from
high
street
the
one
above
that
is
what
you'd
see
from
guy
free
street
right.
But
you
have
a
photograph.
H
You
know,
I'm
not
sure
you
have
to
scroll
all
the
way
down
to
see
the
house.
I
apologize
it's!
No!
It's
not
that
one.
H
H
Oh,
it's
a
white
clapboard
house.
D
F
If
I
may
go
ahead,
I
I
have
a
picture
of
that
house
because
we
were
under.
D
That's
very
nice.
It
has
a
little
sauna
shed
behind
it.
A
E
Not
with
the
project,
I
actually
think
the
design
is
awesome.
I
think
it's
great,
I
think
it's
going
to
fit
in
sarah.
Do
you
have
any
comments,
or
do
you
want
any
more
details
on
this
height
stuff
in
the
drawings,
maybe
even
as
a
con
as
it's
a
thing
to
add
later,
just
considering
the
issue
we
had
with
the
garage.
B
Right,
I
I
so
I
was
hoping
to
go
through
the
application,
a
little
bit
slower
to
kind
of
see
the
height
issue
just
because
of
other
issues
that
we
have.
We
definitely
need
photos
of
the
existing
house,
and
you
know
I
I
was
going
to
ask
peter
to
go
back
to
the
beginning
of
the
application
because
we
went
through
it
just
kind
of
fast
and
I
don't.
C
Yeah
and
I
think
to
eric's
comment,
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
would
like
to
see
the
house
I
mean.
Ideally,
I
think
we'd
like
to
see
the
house
with
the
the
proposed
edition
photoshopped
into
the
drawing
because-
and
you
know
scaled
properly,
so
we
could
sort
of
see
how
big
the
addition
or
the
carriage
house
is
in
comparison
to
the
existing
home.
C
E
It
so
david
we
had
a
problem
on
another
project
where
they
they
were
rather
vague
in
the
drawings
and
didn't
show
any
scale.
What
they
built,
a
didn't,
even
conform
with
the
drawings
would
be
didn't,
wasn't
really
reflected
properly
and
the
way
it
was
presented.
So
you
know
I
think
it
I
mean
I'm
going
to
tell
you.
I
think
it
looks
awesome.
I
just
think
it.
We
need
a
little
more
to
be
able
to
say
yay.
H
I
can
certainly
do
an
elevation.
It
is.
It
is
a
sloped
site,
so
the
building
the
the
the
house
from
high
street
has
a
garage
underneath
it,
and
then
this
is
sort
of
set
up
to
the
left.
H
I'm
actually
going
online
right
now,
just
to
put
in
the
address
to
see
if
we
can
call
it
up
on
gis,
if
that's
possible,
and
then
I
can
show
you
the
picture
of
the
house.
If
that's
something,
but
I
can,
the
the
carriage
house
does
have
a
scale
to
it.
It's
about
20
feet
to
the
middle
of
the
of
the
gable
height
there,
which
is
what
what
is
allowed
by
zoning.
H
And
we
are
keeping
it
down
a
little
bit,
there's
not
full
headroom
on
the
second
floor,
just
because
the
owner
did
not
want
to
have
a
too
tall.
You
know
a
full
two-story
building.
B
So
so,
just
to
speak
on
what
eric's
talking
about
david
is,
I
think
that
what
we're
suggesting
is
it
might
be
in
the
best
interest
to
come
back.
We
continue
this
and
then
you
come
back
for
another
hearing
with
some
more
detail
just
so
that
we
can
try
to
try
and
figure
out
the
lot,
the
the
scale
of
the
edition,
in
conjunction
with
the
existing
buildings
on
the
lot
just
so
that
we
can
get
a
better
picture,
and
I
agree
with
eric.
I
think
it's
a
beautiful
addition.
I
don't
have
concerns
about
that.
H
Okay,
is
it,
is
it
possible
to
share
the
screen,
because
I
did
call
up
the
gis?
B
E
H
That's
to
the
mid
that's
to
the
mid
of
the
of
the
highest
roof,
so
the
lower
roof.
It's
a
little
deceiving
that
drawing
to
the
right
the
lower
right.
It
says,
20
feet
high.
If
you
follow
that
dimension
line
across
that's
to
the
middle
point
of
the
the
main
gable,
which
is
how
the
height
is
measured
in
the
town
of
groton
zoning.
E
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear.
I
don't
think
there's
any
issues
with
anything
that
you're
doing
I'm
just
saying
we
had
a
very
big
problem
relating
to
another
garage
with
some
similar
submittals
to
what
you're
submitting
it's
going
to
be
very
difficult
for
us
to
make
a
decision
based
upon
the
decision
and
what
we
did
in
that
without
more
information
from
you.
E
E
B
H
Not
do
any
good
right,
that's
yeah,
okay,
but
I'll,
we'll
submit
it
we'll
submit
new
drawings
with
some
pictures
of
the
house.
The
streetscape
I'm
not
very
good
at
photoshop
either.
So
it
might
actually
be
a
a
rough
drawing
of
the
volume
of
the
house
with
the
volume
of
the
carriage
house
from
both
high
street
and
guy
free
street.
E
A
B
D
So
just
hit
my
video
since
I've
gotten
back
on
the
board.
It
was
after
they've
changed
the
zoning
rigs
and
I
just
was
at
the
oh,
because
this
very
similar
garage
came
up
when
I
was
on
before
on
grove
street,
and
they
had
said
that
was
going
to
be
an
office
or
something,
and
now
it's
an
airbnb.
It
doesn't
matter
that
doesn't
matter
to
our
commission
correct.
C
C
B
Right
so
david,
unless
you
object,
we're
just
going
to
continue
to
the
next
next
time.
C
B
All
in
favor
I'll
do
real
call
it
moriarty.
I
brady.
C
G
B
The
application
is
continued,
so
I
will
now
close
public
hearings
and
call
htc
21-04
45
pearl
street,
william
getz
owner
applicant,
replace
windows.
These
were
those
four
windows
where
we
were
missing.
The
additional
information
we'd
already
heard
him
two
weeks
ago.
Does
anyone
have
any
comments
or
concerns
or
emotions
over
this
application?.
B
Oh
well,
we
can't
really
hear
anything
in
consideration
of
public
hearings.
Was
that
hand
raised
during
the
public
hearings
peter.
E
D
G
I
Okay,
now
I'm
good
all
right.
My
name
is
george
brisch
and
I'm
david's
immediate
neighbor
on
godfrey
street,
and
I
have
no
objection
to
the
garage.
I
guess
my
my
concern
is
with
the
total
height
of
the
building
and
its
effect
on
our
view
from
godfrey
street
down
towards
high
street.
I
My
question
would
be
what
is
his
envisioned
use
for
the
second
floor
and
is
a
cupola
actually
necessary
on
the
building
and
minimizing
the
height?
Is
I
guess
my
concern?
That's
that's
my
comment.
I'd
like
to
see,
perhaps
if
it's
20
feet
high,
maybe
we
can
float
a
balloon
and
see
what
effect
it
has
on
our
view.
Other
than
that
I
know
he
wants
to
store
his
antique
cars
in
there
and
I
have
no
opposition
to
that,
but
I
think
this
is
going
to
significantly
affect
our
view
down
towards
high
street
in
the
park.
B
C
B
B
E
B
C
B
Goodman
nalt
hi,
the
application
is
approved
and
we've
continued
21-08
261
high
street
to
the
next
meeting.
So
moving
on
to
pre-application
hearings
is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
for
that.
F
I
I
don't
have
anything
official,
but
I
do
have
a
general
question
as
we're
thinking
about
siding
and
what
is
you
know?
What
are
the
rules?
What
are
we
allowed?
What
should
we
be
thinking
about
not
sure
whether
we're
going
to
do
consider
a
wholesale
replacement,
but
certainly
they're,
like
on
the
group?
One
side
we
will.
We
are
eliminating
a
window
so
we'll
need
to
replace
you
know
siding
there,
which
could
be
the
clabber.
That's
there.
F
E
Because
I've
done
this
with
a
bunch,
you
can't
get
boral
siding
anymore.
They
stop
producing
it.
Unless
you
buy
it
from
a
third-party
manufacturer
they're
going
to
charge
you
almost
900
a
square
for
it,
it's
not
worth
it.
Yeah
forget
it.
If
you
can
even
get
it
yeah
the
hardy
will
never
match
up
to
the
cedar
or
whatever
is
actually
there.
So
you're
gonna
have
a
tough
time
trying
to
use
the
hardy
unless
you're.
Okay
with
that
look,
but
it's
going
to
look
pretty
butchered
your
really
only.
I
E
I
E
B
B
G
E
B
Certainly
so
there
was
a
project
over
on
fort
rachel
place
and
todd,
and
eric,
please
jump
in
over
me
at
any
moment,
because
my
memory
can
sometimes
be
sketchy,
but
we
had
an
applicant
do
a
garage
and
it
was
a
two.
It
was
a
one
and
a
half
story
garage,
and
it
was
this
kind
of
debacle
between
the
architect,
the
contractor
and
the
homeowner.
And
ultimately,
what
was
built
was
not
what
was
approved,
but
also
what
was
approved
in
the
application
was
somewhat
misleading.
B
Like
we
didn't
have
the
scale
of
the
house,
we
didn't
realize
that
the
garage
was
as
tall
as
the
house
that
it
was
just
kind
of
a
misleading
application,
and
then
we
had
these
these
subsequent
issues
between
the
contractor
building.
What
he
wanted
to
build
so
we're
myself
personally
and
clearly
eric
and
todd
are
a
little
leery.
B
We
want
them
because
of
that
we
would
like
to
be
sure
of
the
size
of
the
garage
or
any
accessory
buildings
in
comparison
to
the
primary
home
or
structure
on
the
property,
just
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
somewhat
scale
with
it,
because
it
looks
like
there's
almost
two
houses
on
the
property.
Now
todd
or
eric.
Did
I
mislead
or
misspeak
in
any
way.
C
E
Yeah,
so
he
built
was
he
what
he
wasn't
allowed
to
build?
He
kept
trying
to
come
back
to
us,
but
never
really
submitted
a
plan.
No
and
eventually
just
gave
up
and
tore
the
whole
roof
off
and
rebuilt
it
as
it
was
originally
approved,
which
honestly
still
doesn't
look
that
good,
because
it
wasn't
really
wasn't
right
in.
C
C
B
You
know,
and
it's
just
one
of
those
things
that
you
learn
from
experience
of
you
know
we
just
didn't
say:
oh
hey:
what's
can
you
give
us
a
little
bit
more
scale
here
and
then
once
we
saw
it
was
bill?
It's
like
we
really
should
have
probably
asked
for
for
something
like
that.
C
D
Yeah,
the
one
that
the
one
that
was
approved,
it
was
probably
was
five
years
or
more
ago
because
it
was
when
I
was
on
historic
district
before
on
growth
that
garage
this
little
similar
thing
is
bigger
than
my
house
and
I'm
like
a
house,
a
couple
houses
away
from
it.
So
the
scale
does
matter.
It
looks
out
of
place.
E
Being
this
like
way
out
of
place,
you
know
unit
or
second
house,
and
sarah
put
it.
B
D
As
us,
when
it
couldn't
turn
into
it,
that's
not
in
our
purview,
nope.
E
B
On
us
yeah
so-
and
you
know
just
to
eric's
point-
I
did
really
like
the
the
structure
that
was
presented
but
not
having
any
sense
of
scale.
We
just
kind
of
to
do
our
due
diligence.
B
B
E
E
B
C
B
Anything
else
all
right,
so
where
are
we?
I
think,
we're
on
old
business,
any
old
business.