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From YouTube: Town of Groton Historic District Commission 8/18/20
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Town of Groton Historic District Commission - August 18, 2020. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/meeting/details/794
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The
host
of
the
webinar
is
the
building
officials
staff
attending
the
meeting
include
peters
of
english,
seamus
quinn
and
linda
galetta.
Anyone
speaking
should
state
their
names
prior
to
speaking
each
time.
The
panelists
in
this
webinar
meeting
will
be
the
commission
members
and
the
building
staff
panelists,
who
would
like
to
comment
on
an
item
should
indicate
such
by
using
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icon
to
raise
hand
at
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bottom
of
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screen.
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a
panelist
raises
their
hand,
they
will
be
able
to
comment
one
at
a
time
when
called
upon
by
the
chairperson
panelists
should
mute.
The
microphones
until
called
upon
panelists
calling
into
the
meeting
by
telephone
may
raise
or
lower
their
hand,
by
pressing
star
9
to
mute
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unmute
call
press
star
6.
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The
public
will
be
asked
to
raise
their
hand
during
public
communications
if
they
want
to
speak
at
this
time
by
using
the
icon
to
raise
hand
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
The
public
will
be
called
upon
by
the
host
one
at
a
time
and
will
be
able
to
speak
during
this
time.
Attendees
must
identify
themselves
before
speaking.
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F
On
august
18th,
if
I'm
appointing
everyone.
E
Here
I
I
don't
remember
if
I
appoint
myself
or
is
that
not
unnecessary
as
chairperson.
G
Okay,
all
right,
let's,
let's
we'll
do
roll
call.
C
F
E
That's
it
for
tonight,
so
we
don't
need
to
see
any
subs
then,
and
then
we
don't
have
todd.
So
do
we
need
someone
else
to
read
the.
G
H
So
previously
sarah
has
read
the
call,
I
think
sometimes
don
covers
for
back
in
the
old
days
prior
to
covid.
I
think
don
used
to
cover
for
for
don.
You
want
to
cover.
I
All
right,
I'm
ready.
Please
publish
the
following
public
notice
for
one
insertion
on
monday
august
10th,
2020,
town
of
groton
notice
of
public
hearing
historic
district
commission.
The
historic
district
commission
will
hold
the
public
hearing
on
tuesday
august
18th
2020
at
7
00
p.m,
virtually
via
the
zoom
platform
to
hear
the
following
applications
requesting
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
htc,
20-53,
115
library,
street
timothy
foley,
owner
jay,
milius,
applicant
condensers,
and
line
line
set,
pin
number.
I
1-312-626-6799
applications
are
on
file
and
available
for
public
inspection
during
normal
business
hours
at
the
planning
department.
134
grant
long
point
road,
groton
connecticut,
dated
this
10th
day
of
august
2020
at
groton,
connecticut
todd
brady
secretary.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
do
not
hesitate
to
contact
linda
galetta
at
860-446-5982
sincerely
peter
zvinglis.
J
E
All
right
so
go
ahead,
state
your
name
and.
J
This
is
chris
duboard
with
the
one
look
sign
company
representing
movement
mortgage
where
we
went
or
we
applied
to
put
a
panel,
a
sign
panel
and
an
existing
post
and
panel
sign,
and
I
guess
at
the
time
we
were
going
through
this.
There
was
an
issue
with
that
sign
in
general,
so
we've
just
been
waiting
to
see
if
there's
any
resolution
with
that
sign.
E
Unfortunately,
lori
did
come
in
and
jump
in
anybody
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
lori
came
in
and
didn't
have
all
of
the
materials
needed
to
complete.
She
didn't
have
a
complete
application,
so
she's
supposed
to
come
back
in
and
so
before.
We
can
approve
this
right,
approve
that.
A
Okay
until
she
gets
that
either
until
she
reapplies
for
that
sign
or
puts
the
sign
she
was
approved,
he
can't
add
to
it
correct
and
even
if
she
doesn't
come
back,
we
still
can't
do
anything
indefinitely
until
she
does
something
unless
he
decides
to
put
another
sign
up.
But
I
don't
know
if
that's
even
allowed.
E
She's
trying
she
came
in
that
one
time,
so
that
was
good.
I
mean
she
just
didn't,
but
I
was
you
know
the
fact
that
she
showed
up.
I
thought
we
were
going
to
be
moving
along.
She
just
didn't
have
what
she
needed
and
I
think
didn't
really
remember
where
we
had
left
off
or
just
seemed
confused.
So
if
she
can
either
like
eric
said,
put
up
the
sign
that
she
has
been
approved
for
or
get
her
application
together,
so
that
when
you
talk
to
her,
those
are
the
two
things
that
are.
H
So
I'm
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up,
because
the
last
time
that
you
met,
which
was
no
I
take
that
back
the
when
you
were
last
scheduled
to
meet
august
5th
with
the
90-day
expiration
occurred
two
days
later
on
august
7th,
okay,
however,
chris
had
already
agreed
to
a
65-day
extension,
so
you've
used
up
the
90
days
and
now
we're
within
that
agreed
to
65
day
extension.
E
So
maybe
use
that
if
you
do
speak
with
her
and
just
say,
you're
completely
under
a
time
constraint,
yeah,
maybe
we'll
see
her
in
at
the
next
meeting.
F
H
E
Move
to
continue
hdc
20-15,
second
in
favor,
levinson,
aye,
eric
goodman,
all
right,
heather,
gennakopoulos,
aye,
okay,.
I
K
E
Okay,
so
htc
20-51,
24
main.
C
E
L
Yeah
sean
golan
here
from
via
emilia
restaurant,
we're
applying
to
add
a
little
bit
of
additional
signage
on
the
front
edge
of
the
building
three
separate
words
going
above
the
door
and
the
windows,
pasta,
salumi
and
vino.
Those
would
be
in
raised
vinyl
lettering
and
that's
about
it.
You
can
see
the
sizes
listed
below
the
color
would
be
in
the
same
color
as
our
sign.
There's
a
low-tech
mock-up
done
by
jacob,
but
you'll
see
you'll
get
the
idea.
L
Do
we
have
the
materials?
It's
it's
going
to
be
vinyl,
it's
going
to
be
like
a
gold,
colored
vinyl
or
a
yellow
vinyl
same
as
the
the
hanging
vertical
side.
I
L
C
M
F
F
Okay,
anyone
in
the
audience
like
to
speak
for
this
application.
E
Closed
sean,
you
know
the
deal,
you
can
either
stay
on
and
and
listen
after
deliberations
or
we
can
contact
you
via.
I
E
D
Jay
millis
melo,
seating
and
cooling.
This
application
is
for
setting
two
condensers
on
the
left
side
of
the
home,
115
library
street
two
mitsubishi
units.
I've
got
them
drawn
in
here
there
you
go,
I'm
getting
as
good
as
I
can
with
the
sharpie
there,
but
that's
that's
where
we're
looking
to
put
them
that'll
be
one
drop
and
then
the
other
unit
will
pop
out
from
the
basement
street
view.
Is
there
just
isn't
much?
G
A
D
D
You
can
put
them
behind
the
unit
inside,
but
it's
really
tricky
to
get
at,
but
you
also
have
the
drainage
connection
that's
made
outside.
So
when
you
have
issues
with
drainage,
you
can
have.
You
know,
problems
in
the
walls,
but
the
biggest
issue
is
line
sets
leaking
and
that's
why
I
don't
put
them
in
the
wall.
It's
a
common
question
by
contractors
that
want
to
like
force
you
to
stick
them
in
the
walls.
D
I
don't
think
there's
gonna
ever
be
a
perfect
world,
so
the
the
idea
of
burying
them
just
makes
me
nauseous.
So
we
we
don't
do
it.
So
I
guess
from
a
maintenance
standpoint.
That's
the
biggest
reason.
You
know
conventional
systems
and
new
construction.
It's
super
common
to
bury
them
in
the
walls
they're
a
little
more
reliable
than
the
mini
split
line
sets.
D
But
people
do
it,
I
mean
people,
do
it
a
lot?
I
I
honestly
I
just.
I
won't
there's
too
many
issues,
yeah.
D
D
E
F
B
D
D
I
A
A
A
D
Yeah
so
like
there's
a
there's,
a
building
that
bc
mechanical
did
out
in
stonington
in
the
borough
and
they
did
the
whole
building
like
that
and
they're
replacing
every
line
set
in
it
right
now.
D
So
there's
a
lot,
that's
going
to
happen
with
these
mini
splits
and
the
years
to
come
here,
unfortunately,
that
we're
all
going
to
be
chasing.
D
D
G
K
K
Hi,
I'm
dan
kolenda
from
renewal
by
anderson
and
we're
applying
for
alexandra
and
richard
garman,
we're
putting
in
two
patio
doors
we're
replacing
exactly
what
they
have
now
and
four
replacement
double
glider
windows,
which
are
exactly
what
they
have
now.
No
structural
changes
everything
looks
identical
to
what
they
have,
including
the
color
and
the
trim,
and
it's
in
the
sunroom
in
the
back
of
their
home.
C
J
E
Did
you
have
any?
Did
you
have
your
map
as
well
as
the
pictures
yep
there
we
go.
K
K
And
we
put
some
pictures
in
there
too,
of
the
house
from
the
street,
so
you
can't
even
really
see
you.
K
The
sliders
and
four
windows,
four
gliding
windows
on
the
back
too
those
are
in
the
back.
That's
our
little
sunroom,
that's
been
back
there.
Yes,.
E
K
E
B
B
E
Spicer,
okay,
all
right
well,
you're
here
and
it
looks
like
you
have
all
your
materials.
So
it's
sometimes
especially
if
someone
says
that
they
can
see
it
from
the
street,
it's
better
to
have
a
vote
so
that
you
have
that
and
you
can
either
move
on
or
depending
on
the
vote
go
from
there.
So
that
being
said,
as
far
as
the
materials
and,
what's
being
done,
does
anyone
do
any
of
the
panelists?
Have
any
questions.
I
E
E
Okay,
htc
20-56
is
now
closed.
So
dan,
you
can
wait
until
deliberate
deliberations
to
hear
our
vote
or
we
can
contact
you
after
the
meeting.
Okay.
N
Okay,
denny's,
not
not
my
building
remodeling,
I'm
representing
donna
ziri
at
154,
cliff
street
she's,
hoping
to
build
a
one-story
addition
behind
the
existing
porch,
we're
going
to
have
the
trim
the
windows,
the
siding
all
match
existing.
N
We
are
gonna,
put
a
deck
on
the
top,
that's
going
to
be
at
the
same
level
as
the
existing
porch
and
we're
going
to
change
the
railing
on
the
existing
porch
to
match
the
trex
railing
that
we're
going
to
be
putting
on
the
porch
it's
going
to
consist
of
an
office
with
the
current
state
of
affairs.
She
finds
herself
working
from
home
and
she
needs
additional
office.
N
N
She
has
an
old,
you
know
stone
basement
that
doesn't
want
to
be
able
to
put
the
office
in
the
basement,
so
we've
decided
to
go
out.
N
We're
going
to
we're
going
to
dig
down
because
we
do
want
it
to
be
at
the
same
level,
but
then
we
want
to
maximize
the
height.
So
we
are
going
to
dig
down
with
a
concrete.
You
know
pad,
and
you
know
that
kind
of
thing.
But.
N
O
A
Okay,
another
question
this
so
the
sighting
that
cedar
shape.
That's
on
the
house,
so
you're
just
going
to
extend
that
down
to
like
a
freeze
board.
N
G
I
Just
go
back
to
that
yeah
that
one
keep
going
yeah
just
so
I
can
understand.
I
F
F
E
E
Right
so
so
we
that
was
our
last
application,
correct.
C
E
Yeah,
that
was
our
final
application,
so
we
now
move
to
deliberations
and
then
you
will.
You
can
just
stay
on
and
and
hear
how
that
goes.
Okay,
so
we
continue
continue.
So
we
will
now
move
to
hdc
20-51
24
west
main
street.
Would
anyone
like
to
make
a
comment
or.
I
A
I
froze
but
I'm
back,
I
moved
to
approve,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
jumped
ahead
of
me.
E
G
F
A
A
D
A
Guys,
though,
unfortunately,
lately
remember
with
rodolfo
from
the
art
association,
we
made
him
submit
the
spec
sheet
on
the
condenser
and
the
even
though
we've
gotten
it
over
and
over
again,
we
still
made
him
do
it
and
we
made
cody,
do
it
on
nine
elm
and
we
made
those
other
people.
Do
it
too,
the
condenser
size
and
the
cover
for
the
pipe
whatever
just
have
to
submit
the
spec
sheets.
D
D
A
D
I
mean
that's
what
the
drawing
indicates
if
you
had
a
tower
system
with
two
fans,
my
drawing
would
have
two
fans
in
it.
A
E
Can
you
go
down
to
the
description
one
more
time?
Sorry.
A
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
totally
agree
with
you
100,
I
think.
Can
we
do
this
moving
forward?
I
mean
I
I
just
it's
it's
for
me.
It's
a
curveball
when
I've
already
been
approved,
I
mean
literally,
I
was
at
the
taylor.
One
was
like
last
meeting
not
two
meetings
ago
and
nobody
said
boo
about
it.
It
was
the
same
exact
everything
I've
given
you
today.
A
I
D
D
E
Well,
unfortunately,
we
can't
add
to
it
the
day
of
it
is
an
overall
unfortunate
situation
because
you
have
been
providing
what
has
been
approved
previously.
So
to
your
point,
clearly,
you
thought
you
were
submitting
a
complete
application.
A
I
don't
think
anyone
particularly
cares.
I
just
think
it's
a
requirement.
As
per
the
the
rules,
I
mean
I
personally,
I
it's
a
condenser
condenser.
I
don't
care
what
company,
what
color,
what
size,
what
anything
it
just
is
what
it
is,
I'm
just
saying
it's
a
requirement
and
we've
made
other
people
do
it
and
if
we're
going
to
stick
to
it,
we
should
stick
to
it.
D
E
E
So
obviously
jay
you
all
you
need
to
do-
is
now
put
specs
in
and
going
forward.
That
will
be
how
any
ac
condensers
are
are
going
to
be
described
in
application.
They'll
be
included
in
that
so
two
weeks
out
or
whatever
the
next
one
is
just
everything
the
same
and
then
add
that
information.
E
B
A
H
I
didn't
want
to
say
anything
during
the
discussion,
but
I
did
mention
to
jay
that
he
was
lacking
the
specs
and
he
felt
that
he
had
a
complete
application
and
he
was
okay
going
forward,
as
is
so
okay,
it
was.
It
was
mentioned.
Okay,.
A
H
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
peter
and
I
try
to
do
in
the
office
is
just
to
make
sure
that
people
are
consistently
providing
application
plot
plan.
You
know
all
of
the
things
that
we
know
for
sure
you
need
just
so
that
they
don't
run
into
a
situation
like
this.
E
A
E
Thought
I
thought
the
same.
I
think
it
looks
nice.
It's
the
best
way
to
add
on
it's
already
that
type
of
house
that
can
take
and
handle
a
little
bit
more
space,
and
I
thought
it
looked.
The
sketch
looked
like
it
was
going
to
be
a
good
blend.
E
H
Should
be
a
couple
I
did
receive,
I
think
peter
springsteel
called
me
and
greg
fettis
as
well.
P
Okay,
I
am
here
tonight
for
some
carports,
it's
3644
west
main
street,
to
service
central
hall,
and
I
can
take
over
the
screen
right
share
screen.
P
That
back
lot
right.
We
we
did
storage
building
in
the
back
lot
and
we,
we
may
have
done
a
carport
earlier,
but
we're
we've
got
something
different
now.
P
A
F
C
P
N
P
P
Story
piece
right
here,
then
chapter
one
is
right
here,
and
this
is
the
driveway
that
comes
out
onto
pearl
street
right
here.
So
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
cover
some
of
the
parking
spaces
back
here.
So
you
can
see
this
structure
right
here
and
this
structure
right
here
are
what
we're.
P
Proposing
so
this
view
here
is
from
the
other
side,
as
you
would,
as
you
were,
walking
from
central
hall
you'd
be
walking
this
way
here,
so
we
create
a
little
gable
with
the
central
hall
logo
on
it,
so
that
you
see
you
see
that
sort
of
waymaking
identity
there
to
draw
you
to
this
area.
P
So
these
are
one-story
little
carports
with
gable
roofs,
do
asphalt,
architectural
shingles
and
we
sort
of
have
an
articulated
column
here
with
a
base
and
a
cap
that
sort
of
match
what
we're
doing
over
on
central
hall
on
the
pilasters
that
we
have
over
there
and
the
carport
that
we
have
over
there.
P
So
we
will
need
a
variance
to
do
these,
and
but
they
usually
come
to
you
before
I
go
for
a
variance.
These
are
the
elevations.
So
you
get
a
sense
of
the
scale.
G
G
P
I
think
we
approved
it
was
a
whole
different
parking
layout.
At
the
time
there
was,
there
was
a.
I
don't
think
we
did
a
carport
over
here.
We
only
did
a
car.
E
P
C
P
C
P
P
P
P
P
P
F
E
H
I
can
see
him
from
my
view,
but
it
look.
He
looks
frozen
not
moving
at
all.
F
P
P
There
you
can
see
all
their
dumpsters
and
all
kinds
of
propane
tanks-
okay,
so
we've
made
an
agreement
with
them
to
spruce
that
area
up.
So
we
should
be
asking
for
this
fence
and
these
fences
here
and
then
the
fence
drops
down
once
we
get
past
that
intersection
of
fencing
there,
because
now
we're
into
the
parking
lot
that
looks.
Okay,.
E
C
C
E
E
P
H
H
M
B
G
M
Okay,
so
it's
54
west
main
street,
which
is
the
old
bank
of
america
building.
My
client,
which
I
guess
was
up
for
a
couple
signs
earlier
in
the
evening
long
term.
My
client
is
looking
to
do
a
restaurant.
There
see
if
I
can
blow
this
up
a
little
bit.
M
M
Yeah,
so
the
south
elevation
really
the
the
changes,
are
you
can
kind
of
see
the
proposed
exhaust
fan
kind
of
peeking
out
over
the
rooftop,
probably
going
to
be
at
the
angle
you're
looking
at
it
probably
going
to
be
a
little
less
than
that,
but
we
just
showed
it
at
the
same
height
as
the
back
and
also
the
letters
brewery
which
is
going
to
be
across.
M
The
front
elevation
above
the
entrance
there
and
then
the
other
thing
is
I'm
going
to
show
you
the
site
plan
shortly,
but
there's
going
to
be
some
outdoor
seating
on
either
side
of
the
lawn
area
or
either
side
of
the
front
entrance
where
the
lawn
areas
are
and
these
my
client's
not
really
and
it'll,
be
a
like
a
like
a
metal
broad
eye,
not
wrote
iron
but
kind
of
a
metal
fence.
M
C
C
M
All
right:
well,
let's
I'll
come
back
to
that.
Let's
move
right
to
the
the
outdoor
seating
there'll
be
five
tables
on
either
side
of
the
front
entrance
there'll
be
a
fence
around
which
shows
up
in
the
site
plan
but
yeah.
Basically,
the
entire
first
floor
level
will
be
a
restaurant
there'll,
be
some
brewing
equip
equipment
on
the
right
side
of
the
screen
there
brewing
is
really
not
meant
to
be
a
full-blown
brewery.
It's
more
to
to
kind
of
complement,
be
an
accessory
to
the
restaurant.
F
F
F
M
M
M
C
A
A
The
respect
of
her
neighbor,
she
should
know
the
lawn
more.
M
A
A
Just
bring
your
page
down,
yeah
or
zoom
back
out
and
zoom
in
on
the
photo
all
right
just
from
memory.
There's
a
do
not
enter
sign.
That's
legacy
bank
of
america
thing
that
thing
should
go
or
be
redone
there's
their
sign.
That
was
never
approved.
That
needs
to
go
before
anyone
does
anything
and
there's
that
tall
old
bank
of
america
sign
that
no
one's
painted
or
cleaned
up
or
anything
if
they're
not
going
to
use
it.
That
should
go
too
just
get
rid
of
it
I'll
spring.
G
M
Okay,
so
you're
talking
eric
about
this,
this
sign
right
here,
which
is
do
not
enter.
I
believe.
A
Right,
but
that
wasn't
approved
what
she
put
up
and
I
don't
think
we
agreed.
I
think
we
agreed
that
we
weren't
going
to
approve
it
in
its
current
form
anyways,
so
it's
just
good
to
go
and
then
the
sign
on
the
right
either
if
you're
going
to
use
it,
paint
it
and
clean
it
up
and
make
it
decent
or
get
rid
of
it.
A
M
M
M
The
do
not
enter
sign
we're
okay
with
because
somehow
we
gotta
keep
people
from,
I
don't
think,
that's
an
entrance.
So
how
do
are
we
proposing
a
different
kind
of
do
not
enter
sign,
or
I
would
just.
F
A
M
M
Yeah
we
got
a
detail
of
it,
which
I
can
submit
a
cut
sheet
for
it
also
for
the
public
hearing,
but
this
is
the
rear
north
elevation
of
the
building.
So
what
we're
proposing
back
here
is
to
switch
out
one
of
the
windows
to
a
second
form
of
egress
and
handicap
access
and
we're
just
going
to
do
a
fire-rated
door.
M
M
Kind
of
the
least
obtrusive,
I
guess
then
trying
to
make
something.
You
know
it
needs
to
be
fire
rated.
So
that's,
I
think,
that's
probably
our
biggest
issue,
but
anyway
we're
open
to
suggestions
there.
This
is
actually
the
old
elevation
which
doesn't
show
the.
M
Show
the
fan
and
the
the
duck
works.
Let
me
flip
to.
M
A
M
F
M
I
M
I
don't
the
only
thing
was
add
a
ramp
back
there
and
you
know
maybe
cut
the
lawn
and
kind
of
clean
things
up,
but
other
than
that
not
huge
plans.
M
A
M
So
we
are
adding.
This
is
the
site
plan,
so
on
bank
street
we're
adding
some
screening,
because
that
area
is
residential
back
there
on
that
back
corner
the
zone
line
kind
of
just
incorporates
that
one
property
to
the
north
west.
M
M
The
neighbor,
actually's
chain-link
fence
is
kind
of
on
our
property
blocking
off
the
parking.
If
you
can
see
that
in
the
back,
probably
not
a
lot,
we
can
do
with
that,
but
we
do
have
a
little
bit
of
the
one
handicapped
spot
and
we
can
do
some
some
landscaping
back
there.
M
So
the
outdoor
seating
fence
detail
is
on
the
left
there.
You
want
to
actually
see
a
cut
sheet
submitted.
M
I
mean
I
have
the
cut
sheet
for
that,
the
dumpster
enclosure.
You
can
definitely
you
know
it's
going
to
be
the
stockade
fence
kind
of
detail
around
that
again.
Nothing
too
fancy
in
the
handicapped
ramp
detail.
You've,
I'm
I
don't.
I
don't
come
before
you
guys
that
often
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
submit
everything
you
need.
E
I
M
M
What
we'll
probably
do
is
is
propose
to
replace
the
do
not
enter
sign,
remove
one
of
the
other
signs
and
then
make
the
the
freestand
the
nicer
freestanding
sign
the
restaurant
name.
M
M
A
Okay,
okay,
more
landscaping,
more
just
clean
it
up.
You
know
what
that
means.
Yeah,
I'm
not
sure
that
I
am
not
going
to
lie
to
you.
I'm
not
sure
that-
and
I
kind
of
sense,
that
from
you
don
too
that
that
brewery
thing
is
going
to
fly,
it's
just
a
little
out
of
touch
with
what
we've
done
for
other
places
in
such
a
heavy
format.
E
E
A
No,
I
think,
if
greg
comes
and
says,
hey
we're
going
to
put
the
restaurant
sign
on
that
poll.
Then
great,
that's
fine!
We
can
deal
with
the
lettering
and
stuff
later
but
but
yeah
to
don's.
Point
though
I
think
we
need
to
know
like
what
are
you
going
to
make
brewery
out
of?
Is
it
going
to
be
wood
I
mean
painted?
Is
it
going
to
be
stone?
I
you
know.
Oh.
M
M
F
M
So
I'll
make
a
decision
whether
or
not
we're
kind
of
ready
for
the
next
meeting
or
not.
H
I
I
M
M
I
think
we
have
time
so
I'm
not
gonna
rush
things
and
you
know
he
wants
to
to
do
things
right,
but
you
know
we're
not
doing
a
lot
of
stuff
on
the
outside,
so
you
know,
I
think
we
can
definitely
do
a
little
more
with
tidying
things
up
and
I'll
have
some
better
pictures
next
time
and
so
forth.
So.
M
Well,
the
zoning
allows
100
parking
through
validation.
So
that's
the
plan.
I
think
I
don't
know
if
you've
been
behind
mystic
pizza
recently,
but
it
was
kind
of
a
joint
effort
for
parking
back
there
previously
and
now.
There's
some
chain,
some
posts
and
chains
up,
dividing
the
property.
M
So
there's
not
as
free.
My
client
had
parking
there
before,
but
he
needed
a
little
bit
of
access
from
mystic
pizza.
Now
he
doesn't
have
that.
So
he's
got
the
one
handicap
spot
back
there
and
he's
got
access
in
and
out
from
bank
street
and
will
rely
on
pedestrian
traffic
and
the
the
parking
lot
so.
A
A
A
It's
all
right,
yeah,
but
anything
you
can
do
on
that
patio
too,
to
make
it
fit
better.
I
mean
a
nice
like
cobbled
brick
or
something
I
don't
know
cobblestone
or
something
that.
M
Will
fit
yeah?
I
think
he
was
trying
to
you,
know
tidy
up
the
lawn
areas.
Get
some
seating
get
the
thing
going
and
then
he
would
long
term
do
something,
but.
E
Yeah,
the
takeaway
is
it's
a
already
a
very
obtrusive,
it's
just
a
big
building
in
downtown,
so
you're
already
dealing
with
like
eyes
on
you.
You
really
have
to
go.
You
have
to
elevate,
and
it's
it's
it's
it's.
It
really
asks
for
more
of
you
know
high-end
top,
especially
in
the
front,
not
so
much
in
the
back
necessarily,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
can
go
50
or
less
like
it
has
to
be.
You
have
to
really
talk.
A
I
think
if
you're
gonna
get
the
approval
of
everyone,
especially
with
things
getting
cleaned
up,
I
think
you
know
leaving
things
grass
and
letting
them
be
weird
sitting
areas
like.
I
just
don't
think
that
kind
of
stuff's
not
gonna
fly.
M
A
You
know
the
trash
area
stinks,
but
like
the
front
area
doesn't
get
dirty
and
like
that
works,
I
think
you
got
to
do
something
similar
here.
Otherwise,
it's
just
gonna.
It's
gonna,
look
like
a
dump
in
six
months,
especially
if
you're
doing
a
I
mean
it's
going
to
be
a
beer
garden
at
like
a
festival,
is
what
it's
going
to
turn
into.
M
I
We
need
greg
to
give
up
his
his
control
here
on
the
screen
and
everything.
G
B
A
C
F
F
C
C
A
G
E
They
were
out
of
our
hand
the
fact
that
she
didn't
see
it
was
the
pr
like
there
may
be
a
problem
there,
but
doesn't
lie
in
that
situation.
The
fact
that
sometimes
people
can't
get
physically
when
we
have
in-person
meetings
to
the
annex,
but
she
was
saying
we
told
she
was
told
that
it
was
online
and
she
didn't
look
online.
A
A
I
Well,
I
think
this
goes
the
thing
I
talked
about
before
about
notification
that
maybe,
if
people
are
going
to
do
a
project,
that's
on
a
property
line
that
there
be
some
kind
of
requirement
that
they
give
notice
to
the
adjoining
property
owner.
When,
like
I
say
when
it's
something
that's
right,
on
the
property
line
between
the
two
owners.
A
N
E
E
A
E
Fence-
I
don't
know,
but
I
assume
they
thought
she
was
going
to
come
to
the
meeting
and
by
saying
come
to
the
meeting
like
how
everyone
else
is.
I
don't
know
if
they
had
a
discussion
that
she
said
I
don't
have
internet
I
mean.
Obviously
that's.
I
wouldn't
assume
that
my
neighbor
doesn't
have
internet.
So
I
I
mean
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
A
No,
I
just,
I
just
think
it's
one
thing
to
share
with
your
neighbor
and
say:
hey,
I'm
gonna
put
up
a
fence,
but
you
know:
come
to
the
meeting,
you'll
see
what
it's
gonna
look
like
or
hey,
I'm
gonna
put
a
fence
up.
This
is
what
it's
going
to
look
like.
You
know,
personally,
don't
really
care
what
you
think,
because
it's
my
property,
but
this
is
what
it's
going
to
look
like:
that's
what
they
could.
I
Well,
it
seemed
like
she
did
from
her
letter
here.
It
seems
like
she
didn't
realize
that
it
was
going
to
be
put
to
like
a
final
vote
in
front
of
us.
That
night.
You
know,
I
don't
know
why
she
didn't
understand
the
process.
I
mean
that's,
not
our
problem,
but.
E
E
I'm
going
to
the
historic
district
commission
to
apply
to
put
up
a
fence,
here's
the
information
so
that
you
can
show
up
to
me
that
sounded
like
because
she
didn't
have
the
internet
was
the
issue,
but
not
I
mean
I
feel
bad
for
her,
that
she
doesn't.
She
couldn't
see
it
and
it
was
a
very
frustrating
situation,
but
I
also
feel
like
everything
was
done,
the
way
it
could
be
done
because
it's
not
a
perfect
system
right
now.
It's
not!
E
I
thought
about
this
afterwards,
because
when
you're
doing
zoom
meetings
clearly
there
are
limitations,
and
in
that
case
someone
not
having
internet
is
not
something
that
we've
really
broached,
because
this
is
the
first
time
it's
happened
that
we
know
of,
but
it
made
me
think.
On
the
flip
side,
some
people
physically
can't
get
to
meetings
either.
So
I
don't
know
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
how
that
could
have
been
handled
differently
in
that
she
was
told
about
it.
I
A
E
It's
not
easy
because
if
it's,
you
know
really
visible
versus
tucked
away,
you
know,
like
there's,
there's
no
clear
way
for
us
to
respond
and
even
amongst
the
panel,
obviously
we
have
different
opinions
on
it.
So
I
do
think
we
need
some
clarity
with
with
the
vinyl
fencing,
because
it's
not
going
to
stop
it's
going
to
keep
coming.
I
E
A
A
E
Yeah,
I
I
I
it's
a
problem
because
the
the
elm
family
has
a
pool
in
the
back,
so
I
don't
think
there's
anything
wrong
with
having
a
vinyl
fence
back
there.
People
can
see
it
from
the
street,
but
it's
not
in
your
face
and
she
was
saying
that
it
can
get
mildewy.
You
know
if
you
put
the
wood
up
I
night.
I
agree.
If
you
have
a
pool,
it's
not
the
best
to
have
wood
right
there,
but
you
know.
A
A
I
just
think
the
use
of
a
shiny
vinyl
in
any
in
any
capacity
with
the
exception
of
like
surrounding
pool
equipment
buried
in
someone's
backyard
that
you're
never
going
to
see
or
around
some
like
trash
thing
or
something
that's
never
going
to
be
seen
other
than
that.
I
just
you're,
probably
never
going
to
get
my
vote
for
it.
B
A
F
E
I
A
H
I'm
not,
I
would
work
with
staff
on
really
what
the
process
is.
I'm
not
I'm
not
100
sure
it
has
to
go
to
town
council.
It
definitely
has
to
have
a
public
hearing,
but
I
you
know,
staff
can
walk
you
through
the
process
of
what
what
really
needs
to
be
done
and
that
might
help
you
determine
whether
you're
going
to
do
something
small
or
go
bigger.
B
So
why
don't
we
we'll
look
at
it
for
next
meeting,
we'll
try
and
give
you
your
options
as
to
moving
forward
if
it
was
to
take
minor
changes,
minor
alterations
versus
a
whole
revision
of
the
book
and
see
what
you
see
what
you're
looking
at
for
on
a
timeline.
A
B
C
B
A
C
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
I
A
C
B
B
C
A
A
A
A
A
A
K
J
A
E
Yeah
and
then
also
new
business,
I
think
that
was
sort
of
in
public
communications,
probably
all
right
anything
else
before
I.