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From YouTube: Groton Inland Wetlands Agency 3/24/21
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Inland Wetlands Agency, March 24, 2021. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/meeting/details/1108
A
All
right,
so
this
is
the
march
24th
meeting
of
the
groton
inland
wetland
agency.
Dave
scott
is
the
chair.
Staff
tonight
includes
me
beb
jones
and
linda
galetta,
for
members
of
the
public
who
want
to
address
the
commission.
You
can
do
that
under
public
communications.
You'll
have
to
raise
your
virtual
hand
to
be
recognized
on
an
apple
device.
You
can
find
that
at
the
top
of
your
screen
on
a
pc,
it's
at
the
bottom,
if
you're
on
the
telephone.
A
C
A
D
D
Comments:
okay:
I
live
on
campbell
road,
which
is
next
to
a
new
house,
that's
going
in
on
the
end
of
mcdonald
court
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
addresses
mcdonald
court
or
rotten
long
point
road,
but
in
any
case
much
of
the
land
is
wetlands
and
I'm
kind
of
perplexed
and
profoundly
discouraged,
because
I
know
that
the
owner
was
given
the
permission
to
cut
down
five.
You
know
70
year
old,
healthy
pine
trees
right
next
to
this,
the
wetland
stream-
and
you
know
I
don't
know
why.
D
But
in
any
case,
what
also
happened
is
that
the
owner
has
use
his
brush
cutting
massive
machine
several
times
and
in
spite
of
the
fact
that
he
knows
he's
not
supposed
to
so
I
guess
my
concern
is:
how
does
the
commission
really
enforce
what
seems
to
be
kind
of
unenforceable
to
me,
but
I
just
wanted
to
go
on
record
as
saying
you
know.
I
hope
that
that
going
forward
the
the
habitat
will
be
allowed
to
come
back,
and
you
know
there
were
sweet
bay,
magnolias
and
willows
and
elderberries
and
ground
nesting
birds.
D
And
it's
now
it's
just
blank.
You
know.
So
I
I
don't
know
if
you
know
again,
as
I
said,
I
don't
know
what
your
mechanism
for
is
for
deciding.
I
was
so
naive
that
when
I
saw
on
the
map
that
it
said
limit
of
clearing,
I
thought
oh
limit
of
clearing.
That's
not
so
bad,
but
in
fact
there
was
no
limit
of
clearing.
So
anyway,
that's
my
comment
and
thank
you
for
listening.
E
B
C
C
Went
over
to
look
at
that
again,
maybe
you
you
did
too
eunice.
Did
you
go
over
and
we
had
a
tight
one.
We
had
a
sidewalk,
oh
that's
right
and
I
missed
it.
Well,
just
for
the
record
I
went
over
on
my
own
and
walked
it.
It's
a
very
steep
float.
Well,
that's
what
we
told
you
know.
I
great
concern
about
that.
B
E
A
B
A
We
there's
one
more
piece
of
information
that
we
it's
ready
for
a
decision,
because
this
property
was
purchased
with
gep
funds,
grant
funds,
there's
a
conservation
easement
on
it,
and
when
you
have
a
conservation
easement
on
your
property,
you
either
have
to
notify
the
holder
of
the
conservation,
easement
90
days
of
your
application
or
present
a
letter
from
the
holder
of
the
easement
saying
that
the
work
you
want
to
do
is
in
compliance
with
the
conservationism,
so
they're
working
on
getting
that
letter.
Yup.
A
So
I
I'm
going
to
just
share
my
screen.
Just
show
you
a
plan
that
was
approved
about
20
years
ago
20
years
ago,
so
this
was
a
landscape
plan
that
did
receive
a
wetland
permit
and
I'm
just
showing
it
to
you,
because
there
is
a
wetland
boundary
on
it
and
I'm
just
kind
of
running
my
cursor.
If
you
can
see
it
around
it,
essentially
pretty
much.
The
entire
parcel
is
wet
and,
as
you
may
recall,
this
is
on
the
corner
of
route
1
and
road
near
the.
A
C
G
Oh
hi,
well,
my
name
is
cindy
fortner.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
groton
beautification
committee.
I
first
want
to
apologize
for
all
the
member
to
all
of
the
members
for
not
checking
with
the
committee
before
we
went
and
walked
around
and
encouraged
some
clearing
to
be
done.
So
I
think
I
apologize
for
that.
The
what
we're
looking
for,
like
our
actual
mission
statement,
is
to
enhance
the
appearance
of
our
community
through
the
addition
of
art
and
landscape
projects
that
foster
economic
growth
and
groton.
G
There
are
lots
of
areas
in
broughton
that
could
use
a
little
sprucing
up
and
we
have
had
the
idea
of
from
the
avery
memorial
property
through
to
sutton
park.
That's
a
very
heavily
traveled
area.
We
I'm
sure
you're
aware
that
we're
getting
that
threatened
sale
along
near
the
public
library
on
117
we're
going
to
have
some
new
signage.
The
way
finding
sign
plan
will
be
established
fairly
it
sometime
this
spring,
we'll
have
a
new
sign
at
route
117
and
route
1
and
we're
going
to
plan
some
plantings
in
there.
G
G
What
we
would
like
to
do
is
since,
since
that
is
kind
of
a
beautiful
corner,
spot
kind
of
coming
into
the
groton
coming
down
the
hill,
and
we
we
were
kind
of.
We
wanted
to
keep
it
clear
of
briers
and
trash
and
kind
of
clear
it
out
a
little.
I
sent
deb
I'm
technologically
challenged,
but
I
sent
deb
three
photos
of
what
it
looked
like
before
it
was
that
the
plants
were
removed
and,
once
again
I
apologize
for
not
getting
the
approval
for
that
first,
it
was
very
overgrown.
G
I
am
not
an
expert,
but
these
do
not
look
to
me
like
native
plants.
This.
Actually
some
of
these
grasses
are
from
the
remnants
of
past
irises,
but
it's
it's.
It
was
just
it's
very
messy
and
that's
that's
kind
of
you
know
that
nice
stone
wall
that
surrounds
what
I'm
calling
the
park.
So
it
was
very,
very
messy,
so
we
just
hoped
the
town
could
go
in
there
clear
out
the
brush,
most
of
which,
through
my
eyes,
was
briars
the
bull
briers
and
such
and
we'd
start
afresh.
G
The
original
picture
that
deb
showed
originally
was
by
brian
kent-
oh
yeah.
Let's
just
I'll
finish
this
first
so
then
I
also
sent
her
three
pictures
and
I'm
glad
that
some
of
you
have
gone
to
view
it.
They
cleared
it
out,
and
so
this
is
now
what
it
looks
like
everything
above
ground
slow
down,
because
I
want
to
show.
G
C
G
I
I
realize
it
wasn't
done
in
accordance
with
how
it
should
have
been
done,
but
that's
how
it
looks
now
we
at
the
beautification
committee
is
sponsoring
a
town-wide
trash
pickup,
and
I
personally
would
like
to
go
in
there
and
finish
what
park
and
rec
had
gone
and
cleared
out
all
the
trash,
but
unfortunately
it
tends
to
blow
in
there
quite
a
bit.
So
I
want
to
get
it
really
clean.
G
G
So
what
we
would
like
permission
to
do
is
to
keep
this
area
clear
of
briar's
trash.
I
don't.
I
would
not
plan
on
cutting
this
is
with
hand
manual
shears,
no
machines,
which
was
a
mistake
so
to
continue
to
trim
back
any
kind
of
the.
What
I
can,
what
I
call
my
husband
calls
bull
briers
and
keep
it
clear
of
trash,
but
not
just
not
change
the
soil
at
all
and
allow
those
lovely
irises,
the
skunk
cabbage
to
come
up.
G
G
One
of
my
members
suggested-
and
I
would
like
to
have
perm
permission
to
do
this
as
to
it's
not
a
native
plant,
but
I
would
like
to
plant
some
hosta
on
the
outer
wall
of
the
park
so
that
we
just
thought
it
would
be
a
really
nice
spot.
It
kind
of
delineates
it
there's
a
you
know:
you're
you're,
right
along
the
corner,
there
route,
1
and
aquanic
road
and
it
slopes
down,
and
then
it
flattens
out
by
the
stone
wall,
and
we
thought
some
hosta
would
be
really
pretty
there.
G
If
you,
if
we
could
put
an
art,
something
like
this
some
type
of
platform
and
then
put
a
piece
of
art
on
top
of
it
at
the
corner.
Oh
I'm
not
sure
exactly
where
that's
one
idea
from
our
committee,
the
other
thing
that
was
suggested
actually
by
by
deb
jones
said
is.
Could
we
put
you
know?
Maybe
we
could
put
something
a
hanging
piece
of
art
because
there's
many
trees
and
we
wouldn't
have
to
do
anything
other
than
I
really
like
the
groton
explore
more
sign.
G
So
my
idea,
which
my
committee
may
not
agree
with,
is
having
a
sign
made
not
out
of
vinyl,
maybe
out
of
canvas
with
the
groton,
explore
more
sign
that
we
could
hang
from
a
tree
the.
If
you
look
closely
at
the
plan
that
frank
did
20
years
ago,
he
actually
suggested
removing
some
trees
to
bring
a
little
air
in
which
I
know
is
something
that
we'd
have
to
look.
That
would
have
to
be
approved
by
you
guys
and
actually
just
having
a
simple
path
you
can
see
along.
G
It
says
us
route,
1,
long
hill,
road,
just
a
simple
pass
through
it,
and
then
it
would
come
across
that
cute
little
bridge
across
the
little
brook.
That
would
be
like
a
stone
dust
path
or
something
like
that
which
would
be
minimally
invasive.
He
suggested
planting.
You
know,
native
grasses
and
things
we
don't
have
the
man
power
nor
the
money.
For
that,
however,
having
a
little
pathway,
I
thought
would
be
lovely
and
we're
aware
that
there's
some
housing
there
for
for
elderly
and
there's
definitely
nice
sidewalks.
G
So
that
was
one
of
our
other
ideas.
It's
just
a
simple
path,
possibly
with
a
as
he
has
a
couple
benches
there.
So
we
were
just
wondering
how
how
the
how
the
inland
wetlands
committee
felt
about
any
work
being
done
in
this
area.
Is
it
all
right?
If
we
just
keep
it
clear,
could
we
consider
trying
to
do
it
a
path
we
just
apply
to
you
with
a
plan?
G
G
E
B
E
F
F
Yeah,
that's
right,
so
any
of
those
bull,
briary
sort
of
things
you
know
at
first
I
was
thinking.
Well,
maybe
you
could
just
you
know,
not
cut
herbaceous
things,
but
then
there
might
be.
I
don't
really
know
what
was
in
there
in
terms
of
species.
I
don't
know
if
there
was
spice
bush,
sweet,
pepper
bush.
I
I
just
I
never
looked
carefully.
F
F
B
E
C
Yeah
it's
about
where
I
come
out
too.
I
don't
know
you
also
mentioned
planting
the
hostas,
which
is
the
furthest
away
from
the
wetlands
there,
and
it's
along
the
outer
edge
of
the
wall.
Is
that
right,
a
long
proponent,
correct
and
yeah?
I
mean
I
don't
have
any
trouble
with
that.
I
think
that
would
look
very
nice
and
I
don't
see
that
having
a
a
big
impact
on
the
wetlands
in
any
way,
I
don't
know
you
you,
okay
with
that
eunice
and
dave.
I
agree.
E
G
A
chunk
of
dug
up
hosta,
so
it
yeah
take
a
couple
years
to
look
really
nice
but
yeah
probably-
and
I
and
I'm
hoping
you
know
well
actually,
when
I
was
there
the
other
day,
they
were
putting
in
a
new
fire
hydrant
and
they
were
digging
between
quantic
and
and
the
stonewall
and
the
soil.
Look
remarkably
good,
because
you
know
sometimes
you
might
say:
oh
I'm
going
to
plant
something
here
and
you
begin
digging
and
you
think
oh.
C
C
C
Really
have
a
water
source
there
either,
but
it
would
do
you
know
if
you
could
really
water
them
in
well
when
you
plant
them.
That
would
help
a
lot,
and
I
would
think
that
this
pathway,
through
you
know,
with
the
br
crossing
over
that
stream.
I
don't
know
deb.
It
feels
to
me
like
that,
would
almost
need
another
application.
A
Yeah
I
mean
this
plan.
That's
right
before
you
now
was
a
wetland
application,
so
so
yeah.
So
the
the
stone
dust
path
that
was
put
in
here
it
required
a
wetland
permit
because
to
install
the
stone
dust
you
know
you
have
to
create
a
base
which
means
you're,
removing
some
material
before
in
the
stone
dust
so
so
yeah.
I
think
I
would
I'm
not
sure
how
whether
that
could
be
done
by
hand
I
mean.
I
think
it
would
be
a
huge
effort.
A
If
that
were
the
case,
you
know
when
you
install
stone
dust,
you
need
to
have
some
sort
of
vibrator
to
a
compactor
to
make
sure
it's.
It
acts.
So
it'll
stay
in
place.
You
don't
just
yeah
yeah
okay,
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear
because
I'm
taking
notes
on
this,
so
the
initial
clearing
was
done
by
our
parks
and
rec
department,
and
it
was
mechanical
means.
So
no
to
that
in
the
future.
Is
that
what
I'm
hearing
without.
A
Without
a
permit
right,
okay,
okay,
so
so
no
machinery
in
there
without
a
permit.
No
no
tree
removal
without
a
permit
invasives
such
as
briars
move
those
by
hand
with
clippers
and
whatnot
and
take
them
off
site.
That's
fine
planting
native
wetland,
shrubs,
also
fine
and
then
planting
other
other
plant
material
outside
of
the
wall.
It's
also
fine.
I
just
want
to
note
that
that
it
is
wetland
soil
out
beyond
the
out
beyond
the
the
stone
wall.
So
yeah
also
may
or
may
not
like
that.
A
F
A
B
A
What
I'm
seeing?
Okay
right,
I'm
seeing
I
mean
you
know,
I'm
seeing
the
material
here
obviously
would
have
to
remove
the
unsuitable
material
which
would
be
the
wetland
soil
in
order
to
install
this
so
that
it
lasts
okay.
So
I'm
seeing
no
no
or
at
the
very
least,
this
requires
a
wetland
permit
exactly.
Okay,.
G
And
how
about
so
and
it
would
also
require-
and
since
I
went
and
looked
in
here,
I
thought:
wait,
there's
a
lot
of
trees
in
here
and
I
I
have
wetlands
on
my
property
and
one
of
the
reasons
I
know
deb,
because
I
I
needed
to
know
what
we
could
do
in
there
and
I
know
when
we
had
a
dying
tree.
So
I
knew
that
that
there
you
couldn't
just
go
in
and
remove
trees
from
the
wetlands
because
you
felt
like
it.
G
So
I
knew
we
would
have
to
have
a
permit
for
that.
But
you
guys
are
saying:
that's
not
going
to
happen
anyways,
but
one
of
our
members
also
suggested
even
a
smaller
installation
more
on
top
as
kind
of
a
base
on
top.
But
but
I
still
don't
see
any
kind
of
artwork
going
in
there
without
a
significant
number
of
trees
being
cleared.
G
B
E
B
G
G
From
a
tree
I
mean
like
a
it,
wouldn't
be
full,
it
would
be
a
temporary
kind
of
I
kind
of
have
a
vision.
Once
again,
I
don't
have
it
yeah.
I
don't
have
it,
but
I
was
thinking
of
a
a
sign
that
had
the
groton
explore
more
logo
on
it,
which
kind
of
signifying
kind
of
the
beginning
of
the
area
that
the
beautification
committee
is
trying
to
work
on.
G
F
B
B
G
All
right,
okay,
awesome,
all
right!
Well,
you
guys
have
given
me
some
really
good
suggestions,
I'm
hoping
to
get
in
there
the
weekend
of
the
24th
and
really
look
around
and
I'll
just
have
hands
and
and
then
so
anything
that
that
I
say
bulb
right
or
something
like
that.
So
if
I
was
thinking
if
it
was
a
stick
or
a
log
or
something
like
that,
if
I
could
pile
it
like
make
a
little
nature
like
for
for
nature,
I
wouldn't
remove
that,
but
any
kind
of
briars
and
something
like
that.
E
B
G
E
G
G
Thank
you
all
for
keeping
our
wetlands
as
safe
as
possible,
because
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
people
appreciate
it.
I
I
realized,
I
didn't
appreciate
it
as
much
as
I
should
have
prior
to
getting
this
whole
thing
started.
So,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
time.
Thank
you
for
me
all
right.
So
now
can
do
I
leave,
or
is
that
rude?
No,
it's
perfectly
fine
on
to
the
next
meeting,
all
right,
exactly
all
right,
so
good
to
see
you
all!
Okay,
thank.
A
Where
did
my?
Oh?
It's
probably
here,
let's
see
so
all
right,
so
I
I
think
the
information
you
got
from
from
patty
oate
under
public
communications.
I
I
think
she
was
mixing
two
different
lots
near
her
house,
so
I
just
this
is
what
I
think,
one
of
them
that
she
was
talking
about
with
the
non-clearing
line.
That
is
one
that
has
a
permit
the
ralston
property.
That
is
that
is
here.
A
You
can
see
my
cursor
here
right
and
that's
the
one
where
you,
you
also
gave
them
to
remove
a
number
of
trees
in
the
upland
review
area.
Bruce
has
been
out
there
quite
a
bit
and
is
in
contact
with
the
property
owner
about
what
all
is
allowed.
What's
not
and
it's
it's
something
that
is
being
reinforced,
you
know
probably
every
couple
of
weeks,
the
other
lot.
I
think
she
is
in
red.
F
A
A
Okay,
so
this
one
was
recently
cleared,
I
had
had
some
conversations
with
the
realtor
on
the
market.
I
think
there's
a
for
sale
sign
now
and
and
it
let
her
know,
just
looking
at
the
topography,
it's
likely
that
there's
a
water
course
that
comes
down
through
here,
maybe
an
intermittent
water
course
something,
and
so
she
has
a
list
of
spoiled
scientists,
but
nonetheless,
this
weekend
there
was
basically
brush
hog
hogging
going
on
in
here.
So
I
did.
I
spoke
with
the
owner
of
the
property
on
monday.
A
They've
owned
this
land
for
more
than
30
years,
and
it
is
now
on
market.
She
said
it
has
been
mowed
or
brush
hogged,
probably
four
times
in
the
time
that
they've
owned
it
and
you
can
see
on
this
2015
photograph.
That
clearly
was
you
know
it
was
clear
and
she
was
doing
that
based
on
a
letter
that
she
had
received
from
bob
huss,
the
former
environmental
planner
in
1987.
A
So
I
mean
since
1987
statutes
had
changed
and
intermittent
water
courses
were
added
as
a
regulated
area.
So
I'm
sure
bob
was
right.
You
know
in
1987
that's
right.
There
were
no
wetlands
that
were
regulated
on
her
property,
but
there
are
now
and-
and
she
has
engaged
a
soil
scientist
to
to
flag
up
the
wetlands-
it's
likely
there's
some
sort
of
intermittent
water
course.
Here
there
may
be
wetland
soils
down
here
near
elm
street.
There's,
certainly
you
know
evidence
of
water,
but
that
just
might
be
there
because
of
the
existence
of
elm
street.
A
A
A
Yeah
yeah
it's
definitely
and
and
when
you
look
at
the
topography
when
you
turn
it
on
on
the
gis
as
a
layer
it,
you
know,
it
looks
like
there's,
probably
water
that
runs
down
through
here,
but
whether
or
not
it
meets
the
definition
of
an
inner
watercourse.
I
don't
know
so
at
any
rate,
like
I
said
she
has
hired
a
local
soil
scientist
we'll
be
looking
at
the
site.
A
A
At
any
rate,
you
can
see
what
it
what
it
looked
like,
so
so
at
this
point
I
expect
to
have
some
sort
of
report
from
her
soil
scientist
and
then
I
would
imagine
that
when
the
property
is
sold,
whoever
buys
it
will
be
applying
for
a
wetland
permit
in
order
to
build
a
house,
but
at
any
rate
the
owner
knows.
There's
wetlands
don't
do
anything
more
out
there
until
you
have
it
flagged,
and
we
know
what's
going
on
and
then
bruce
is
also
in
contact
with
the
other
property
that
we
talked
about.