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From YouTube: Groton Inland Wetlands Agency 1/26/22
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Inland Wetlands Agency January 26, 2022. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/file/getfile/60768
A
There
we
go
good
all
right.
Let
me
just
get
the
live
stream
going
right.
We
are
good
okay.
So
this
is
the
january
26
meeting
of
the
inland
wetland
agency,
dave
scott's,
the
chair
staff
tonight
bruce
lofgren
and
deb
jones.
If
anyone
if
members
of
the
public
want
to
address
the
permission,
they
can
do
that
under
public
communications
and
you'll
have
to
raise
your
hand
to
be
recognized,
and
then
we
will
promote
you
so
that
you
can
speak
to
them
if
you're
an
applicant,
we'll
we'll
let
you
speak
when
your
agenda
item
is
up.
D
B
E
Okay,
it
looks
like
the
applicant
is
here,
so
I'm
going
to
promote
both
of
them
as
panelists.
E
And
just
while
they
come
on
just
so,
everyone
knows-
and
this
is
bruce
often
for
the
record-
that
this
is
a
new
application,
so
we
can't
improve
it
tonight.
We
just
received
it
last
week.
It
is
a
single
family
dwelling
at
the
end
of
prospect
street.
It
was
a
subdivision
that
was
approved
in
the
early
90s
and
I
believe
this
is
the
last
vacant
lot
in
the
subdivision
and
they're
now
proposing
to
develop,
but
I
think
the
builder
is
here
as
well
as
the
owners.
E
F
Okay,
here
we
go,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes?
Yes,
I
don't
think
you
can
see
me,
but
you
can
hear
me.
Okay,
my
name
is
paul.
Lucia
I've
been
a
local
builder
since
1982
in
the
southeastern
connecticut
area,
I'm
representing
my
clients,
kyle
and
stephanie
brown
in
regard
to
this
wetlands
permit
application
for
49
prospect
street
lot,
6
and
grant.
F
F
F
Three
restrictions
in
particular
were
a
factor
which
I'll
now
explain
restriction.
Number
one
was
the
minimum
house
size
requirement.
It
reads:
temperature
controlled
living
areas
to
be
no
less
than
2
200
square
feet
with
a
minimum
of
1200
square
feet
on
the
first
floor
house
that
we've
designed
is
2655
square
feet
with
1635
square
feet.
On
the
first
floor,
this
does
not
include
the
three
bay
attached
garage,
which
is
864
square
feet,
which
will
not
be
heated
at
this
time.
F
F
F
Item
number
restriction.
Number
three
was
the
driveway
location
from
the
property
line.
It
reads
that
no
portion
of
any
driveway
shall
be
closer
than
six
feet
from
the
side
property
lines,
as
you
can
see,
that
front
is
pretty
narrow
and
so
there's
another
restriction
that
states
for
garages
located
within
60
feet
from
the
front
of
the
closest
road.
Curb
such
overhead
doors
shall
not
face
directly
toward
the
street
and
she'll
make
an
angle
with
the
street
of
at
least
45
degrees.
F
G
Sorry,
can
I
just
interrupt
just
just
quickly.
Sorry,
can
you
just
locate
this
property
with
you
know,
prospect
street
and
where
that
is
in
relation
to
you
know
the
the
adjoining
streets,
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
exactly
where
this
is.
E
F
You're
welcome
so
then
we
added
a
placeholder
on
the
lot
for
future
pool
and
which
is
something
that
we
hope
to
achieve
with
this
permanent
application.
F
F
So
we
are
asking
for
your
consideration
to
reduce
the
wetland
buffer
to
25
feet,
to
allow
us
to
achieve
better
and
more
gradual
grading
of
the
property.
If
the
commission
requires
plantings
to
help
with
any
absorption
of
water
or
runoff
from
the
property
we're
more
than
willing
to
do
that.
In
addition,
silt
fence
will
be
installed
and
maintained,
as
shown
on
the
plan
and
hay
bales
will
be
used
as
needed
to
keep
any
water
or
runoff
from
entering
the
wetland
while
we're
working
on
the
property.
F
B
Which
could
be
achieved
by
moving
the
house
back
into
the
as
a
lot
expands
also
looks
fairly
flatter
back
there,
as
opposed
to
going
forward
where
there
is
some
elevation
difference
a
little
bit.
It.
C
B
H
C
Well,
I
I
drove
by
there
the
other
day,
and
I
I
think
I
know
we
sight
walked
this
in
2000
when
we
approved
this
subdivision.
I
remember
it
was
somewhat
complex
and
deb.
Of
course
you
will
remember
and
remind
me
because
you're
still
younger
than
I
am
there
was
intermittent
water
course
coming
down
from
somewhere.
I
want
to
say
that
the
house
that
was
existing
on
this
prospect
street
intermittent
water
course
and
then
there
was
something
about
that
that
I'm
not
remembering
clearly.
A
A
C
That's
awesome
and
the
other
thing
that
I
noticed
when
I
was
driving
out
just
to
check
this
from
my
car
I
didn't
get
out
of
my
car.
I
did
notice
that
the
house
on
lot
I'll
just
say
seven.
I
guess
there's
a
lot
of
clearing
behind
that
house,
and
so
if
there
was
any
upland
review
area
restriction,
I
would
be
interested
to
know
if
that
was
honored.
So.
A
So,
actually
that
one,
those
homeowners,
maybe
10
or
15
years
ago,
came
to
you
with
a
removal
plan
with
some
dead
trees
and
things.
So
so
you
you
looked
at
that
pretty
carefully.
C
Okay
thanks,
I
I
appreciate
you
being
my
memory.
It
really
makes
a
difference
to
me.
So
that's
that's
great
to
know
so
I
I
feel
like
I
would
like
to
have
a
peek
at
this
property
just
quickly.
Please.
C
That,
too,
you
mean
on
the
original
on
the
original
site
plan
dave
right.
H
What's
what's
on
this,
what's
on
the
slopes
now
and
between
the
house
between
the
proposed
house
and
the
and
the
wetlands.
H
D
F
C
But
that
what
that
upland
review?
Well,
I
mean
you
only
have
25
feet
marked
off.
Can
you
just
pick
up.
C
On
that
original
site
plan,
did
we
suggest
a
25
foot
upland
review
area
from
that
wetland
back
to
the
back
to
the
first
one?
Please
bruce.
E
Sure,
I'm
not
sure
if
dab
remembers,
but
just
just
let
everyone
know
you
know
we
did
just
received
this
last
week,
so
staff
hasn't
done
their
full
review
on
it.
Yet
so
I
I
haven't,
looked
at
all
the
conditions
of
this.
This
subdivision's
wetland
approval
yet,
but
it
does
show
here
a
50-foot
buffer
and
it
says
a
c-note
20.,
but
I
I'm
assuming
that
that
that
probably
was
a
restriction
that
there's
no
building
within
50
and
possibly
no
clearing
within
50
feet
of
the
wetlands
back
then.
H
H
E
Like
it
looks
like
yeah,
it
looks
like
it
was
50..
I
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
applicant,
but
I
think
what
they
were
thinking
was
that
there's
the
upland
review
area
is
100
feet
and
they
were
requesting
that
to
clear
within
25
feet.
So
it's
just
kind
of
a
terminology
thing
yeah.
A
Those
were
those
were
typical
houses
placed
on
the
plan
to
just
show
that
you
could
put
a
house
within
the
setbacks.
It
appears
that
the
the
developer
of
the
subdivision
created
a
homeowner's
association
and
created
some
restrictions
so
that
he
could
control
the
look
of
the
houses
that
were
placed
on
there.
Those
the
restrictions
that
were
listed
out
to
you
are
not
town
restrictions.
A
It's
it's
something
within
the
needs
of
all
the
lots
in
this
subdivision
and
again,
we
haven't
really
reviewed
this
plan
carefully,
but
it
does
appear
that,
even
though,
on
the
the
applicant's
plan,
if
you
show
a
25-foot
upland
review
area,
there's
at
this
point,
they're
showing
work
well
outside
of
that.
C
Yeah,
that's
that's
what
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
say.
Think
too
I
mean
you
know,
it
shows
the
the
25
foot,
but
then
it's
hard
to
sort
of
guess
where
the
50
foot
would
be
and
that's
not
not
withstanding
the
pool
I
mean.
Obviously
the
pool
seems
to
be.
I
don't
know
again.
I
I
don't.
I
don't
know
where
that
would
be
looks
like
the
pool
would
still
be
outside
the
50-foot.
But
I
I
don't
know
it's
hard
to
tell
yeah.
F
That's
right,
what
we
were
actually
trying
to
do
originally
was
to
keep
everything
50
feet
away
from
the
actual
wetland,
and
then
we
thought
geez.
Maybe
it
would
be
good
if
we
went
to
25
it
would
give
us
a
better
opportunity
to
grade
things
a
little
differently
and
maybe
kind
of
blend
it
into
the
to
the
site
a
little
bit
better
right,
because
you're
correct,
I
mean
you're
right
behind.
G
F
We
did
have
the
we
did,
have
the
wetlands
reflagged
when
when
they
purchased
the
land,
so
that
we,
you
know,
we
knew
what
we
were
getting
ourselves
into,
but
the
I
think
that
would
be
a
big
help.
You
all.
If
we
put
some
stakes
where
the
where
the
foundation
would
potentially
be
at
least
get
something
close
and
then
you'd
have
an
idea
of
where
it
is
in
proximity
to
the
wetland.
H
Yeah,
given
given
my
newness
to
this,
I'm
I'm
sort
of
asked,
I
have
to
ask
a
question.
You
know
I
can
understand
and
appreciate
the
short-term
impacts
of
construction
that
potentially
could
happen
on
that.
But
what
about
the
long-term
like?
What
do
you
anticipate
this
construction
to
have
in
terms
of
a
long-term
impact
to
the
two
wetland
areas?
H
F
F
Yeah,
I
don't
think
it'll
increase
or
decrease.
I
think
it'll
be
basically
the
same.
The
road
runoff
catches
in
that
storm
drain
and
goes
down
through
that
easement.
So
really
it
would
be
just
the
site
runoff,
which
would
be
gutter
drains
and
that
type
of
thing
and
footing
drains-
and
you
know
basically
the
same
water
that
would
be
on
that
property
would
be
dispersed
on
that
property.
F
We
have
a
footing
drain
outlet
right
there,
that's
basically
in
the
middle
of
this
space
and
then
gutter
drains
would
just
be
dispersed
for
at
this
point,
would
we
just
be
putting
them
on
splash
pads,
be.
F
G
B
F
Well,
I
can't
vouch
for
what
they're
going
to
use
for
fertilizer
and
that
type
of
thing
after
we're
done,
but
I
suppose
that
would
know
like
any
lot.
That
would
be
what
would
happen.
Yeah.
D
Do
you
plan
to
place
this
proposed
house
right
on
top
of
the
land
as
it
is
now
or
are
you
going
to
dig
out
any
soil.
F
Yes,
we
will
dig
out
soil
and
the
way
that
the
topography
works.
The
the
back
of
the
house
works
almost
perfectly
for
a
walk-out
basement.
There
will
be
some
grading
and
probably
some
small,
retaining
walls
that
will
need
to
be
built
right
near
the
house,
underneath
the
deck
that
type
of
thing,
which
will
retain
the
the
soils.
But
the
front
is
really
just
kind
of
tying
back
into
the
existing
topography.
D
What's
the
elevation
drop
from
the
front
to
the
back.
D
Oh
after
you've
leveled
a
dug
out
a
little
in
the
front.
F
Yeah
there'll
be
a
space
on
the.
So
if
you're
looking
at
the
back
of
the
house
on
the
right
hand,
side
that'll
be
that'll,
be
the
walk
out
area
underneath
the
deck
we'll
we'll
build
topography
into
it
right
there
put
a
little
retaining
wall
and
then
on
the
opposite
side.
It
kind
of
naturally
flows
to
come
down
right
there
and
blends
back
into
that.
Easement.
C
I
was
outside
all
day.
I
was
fine.
C
C
F
Yeah,
we'll
definitely
get
it
done
next
week.
I'll
actually
try
to
get
the
surveyor
to
go
out
and
do
it.
But
if
I
can't
get
that
done,
you
know
I'll
go
out
with
some
long
stakes
and
you
know
pull
a
tape
from
the
street
and
and
get
some
stakes
with
some
flags
on
them.
Maybe
even
get
some
markings
on
them,
so
you
can
see.
What's
there
it'd
be
a
rough
idea
of
where
the
house
will
be
in
general.
H
Could
you
also
put
a
stake
where
the
footing
drain
is
yes
for
reference,
and
so
so
in
terms
of
of
actually
modifying
the
vegetation?
That's
on
there
now,
how
far
from
the?
If
you
were
to
put
a
boundary
here
for
the
for
grass,
where
would
you
put
that.
F
F
F
J
Like
the
the
grade
behind
there,
just
beyond
the
silk
fence
looks
quite
steep.
Do
you
anticipate?
How
do
you
anticipate
handling
that
over
a
permanent
basis
there?
With
that?
You
know
with
those
close,
you
know
the
contour
lines
being
so
close.
There.
F
Well,
we're
not
really
sure
that
that's
actually
even
going
to
happen
that
way,
because
the
right
now
we
just
have
again
the
pool
we
put
it
on
there
as
a
sort
of
a
a
mark
just
to
kind
of
claim
that
space,
if
you
will
and
that
pool,
could
be
fairly.
You
know
much
lower
than
the
houses
and
that
grade
could
all
change,
and
you
know
I
think,
if
they
need
to
come
back
when
the
pool
goes
in,
that
you
know
just
to
give
you
what
the
final
grades
would
be.
E
Paul
this
is
bruce
some
one
of
my
comments
for
the
plan,
for
my
review
is
going
to
be
showing
a
clear
clearing
limit
line.
Okay
and
whether
that
be
your
proposed
line
is
the
25
foot
buffer
or
whether
it's
further
than
the
25
foot
bumper.
Usually
when
I
review
plans,
I
like
it
to
be
clean
and
show
you
know
exactly
where
you're
going
to
be
clearing
and
where
you're
not
going
to
be
clearing.
E
Okay
and
just
one
other
comment,
I
have,
if
you're
going
to
be
clearing
in
an
area
you're
going
to
need
some
silk
vents
or
cinnamon
and
erosion
controls,
move.
B
B
C
D
C
C
All
right,
let's
do
monday
afternoon
and
would
four
o'clock
annie.
Can
you
come
at
four
on
that
monday,
absolutely
yeah
be.
I
F
G
A
H
D
B
C
I
don't
think
54.
It
goes
right
through
the
middle
of
the
house.
I
don't
think
that's
that's
going
to
make
any
sense.
Barbara,
we
and
plus
the
previous
subdivision
was
approved
for
50
feet,
so
I
think
we
really
need
to
okay
yeah.
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that
would
be
an
exercise
that
would
be
helpful.
J
C
J
C
B
B
C
B
B
No
pending
or
old
business,
we
have
a
report
from
you
on
on
parks
and
recreation.
A
Yeah
yeah
exactly
so
the
parks
and
recreation
department
want
they
want
to
widen
the
path
that
aquatic
planes
park.
So
you're
probably
aware,
there's
a
five
foot
wide
stone
dust
path
that
goes
all
the
way
around
the
fields.
Five
feet:
it's
not
very
comfortable
to
have
two
people
walking.
B
A
G
A
Yeah,
so
let
me
just
zoom
in
here
a
little
bit.
This
is
on
the
old
site
plan.
So
here
we
go
so
you
can
see
this
is
this
is
route
1
right
here?
This
is
the
the
fort
hill
citgo
convenience
store
the
wetlands.
A
You
can
see
when
you
drive
by
after
it
rains
sometimes
there's
water
ponding
out
there,
and
then
the
the
walk
is
just
north
of
that
wetland.
So
the
area
that
I've
got
like
with
dots,
that's
the
that's
where
they're
going
to
widen
the
walk,
they're
going
to
do
it
all
the
way
around.
A
This
is
the
area
that's
close
to
the
wetland,
so
my
opinion
is
that
this
area
is
really
really
flat
and
that
they're
they'll
be
able
to
do
it
with
no
wetland
impact,
and
I
don't
think
it
needs
a
wetland
permit.
But
I
need
to
confirm
that
with
you
guys.
B
A
And
just
let
me
just
zoom
in
a
little
bit
closer
here
and
you
can
see
in
this
area
so
this
this
is
the
existing
path,
there's
also
a
bump
out
in
this
area
with
a
flagpole,
so
that
area
has
been
disturbed
and
then,
of
course,
it's
grass.
You
know
it's
field
just
beyond
it.
C
A
Really
high
ground
water
here
and-
and
I
think
you
can
probably
see
on
here
the
rent
where
the
wetlands
actually
were
so
this
whole
area
up
in
here
was
wet
and
was
filled
as
part
of
the
development
of
the
fields
yeah.
You
know,
there's
there's
a
discharge
from
the
from
the
fort
hill
citgo
that
that
outlets
over
here.
So
there's
there's
storm
water
that
comes
to
this
area
as
well,
and
then
the
other
problem
with
this
whole
field
is
that
it's
really
really
flat.
So
there's
it's
open.
C
A
There
is
yes,
there
is,
I
can
see
some
catch
basins
here
and
there
is
a
pipe
under
road
and.
C
So
that
just
not
it's
flat.
C
Okay,
yeah,
I
feel
the
same
way.
I
certainly
I
mean
I'm
not
happy
with
the
way
that
is
like
that
now,
because
I
think
it's
worse
than
it
was
when
we
permitted
this,
but
I
certainly
don't
adding
a
stone.
Death,
pat
stone
dust
path
is
going
to
exacerbate
that
situation.
In
my
feeble
opinion,
I.
G
I
I'm
wondering
if,
because
I
think
that
that
corner
actually
goes
underwater
when
it's
really
wet
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
they
would
want
to
cheat
and
take
a
little
bit
more
toward
the
field
just
to
get
it
out
of
that
wet.
A
Spot
I
mean
I'll
suggest
it
to
them,
but
I
I
suspect
it's
because
you
know
the
area
of
play
is
shown
here.
G
A
C
A
D
G
A
What
I
think
and
it's
a
concurrence,
that's
all.
A
C
I
just
have
one
quick
thing:
I
was
visiting
my
friend
sidney,
vanzant
and
joan
smith
of
gosa
stopped
by
while
I
was
visiting
her
and
she
brought
up
on
the
avery
farm.
Apparently
there
are
existing
bridges
over
wetlands
again,
I'm
not
familiar
with
what
they
are
and
she
said
just
wondering
to
save
money.
If
they're
existing
can
we
replace
them
and
repair
them
and
of
course
I
said
you
need
to
talk
to
blah
blah
blah.
But
again,
I'm
just
acknowledging
that
I
had
that
conversation
about,
and
I
said
I
just
said.
C
C
Again,
just
acknowledging
that
I
had
that
conversation,
because
I
don't
want
anyone
to
think
I'm
talking
behind
their
backs.
D
C
On
the
on
the
avery
farm-
and
I
said
to
her,
I
said:
well,
is
it
in
legend
of
groton
and
apparently
you
know
there
that
boundary
along
that
power
line
is
somewhat.
She
said,
I
think
it's
in
groton,
but
I'm
not
really
sure
anyway,
like
I
said.
C
And
is
that
that
that's
the
bridge
that
you
think
might
they
might
need
to
repair?
I
guess.
B
C
C
All
right
dave
great.
Thank
you,
make
a
motion
to
adjourn
and
we'll
see
everybody
on
the
seventh,
except
for
you,
dave
we'll
see
you
when
we
see
you.