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From YouTube: Groton Planning and Zoning Commission - 7/14/22
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Planning and Zoning Commission July 14, 2022. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
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D
Subject
matters,
whether
it's
short-term,
rentals
cannabis
or
the
data
centers
we've
started
off
with
kind
of
a
broad
front
view
on
each
one
of
the
topic
areas
and
we
have
been
compiling
some,
like
general
survey,
questions
just
to
get
people
engaged
involved
and
try
to
get
some
additional
feedback
on
each
one
of
these
areas
and
then,
as
we
get,
some
information
we've
been
doing
a
little
bit
of
a
deeper
dive.
So
initially,
we've
had
some
questions
out
there.
On
short-term
rentals,
we
received
a
significant
amount
of
responses.
B
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A
D
C
Right
so
as
a
recap,
from
last
month,
we
went
person
by
person
in
the
pcc
and
got
your
confirmation
that
you
would
at
least
like
to
discuss
allowing
short-term
rentals
in
certain
districts
under
certain
conditions.
So
that's
where
we
are
hoping
to
start
this
evening
with
that
first
question:
if,
if
we're
all
still
in
agreement
with
that,
then
what
in
which
zoning
districts
would
you
feel
comfortable
allowing
short-term
rentals
like
to
go
around.
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D
We
want
to
not
have
them
in
certain
zones
and
think
of
it
that
way
and
that's
very
possible,
but
that
would
just
be
there'll,
certainly
be
some
zones
that
maybe
they're
just
equally
inappropriate.
That's
probably
an
easy
one,
but
in
terms
of
any
kind
of
blanket
that
shouldn't
be
taken
to
be
the
opposite
saying.
Well,
if
it's
it's
okay
in
a
particular
residential,
if
it's
not
forbidden
in
a
residential
zone,
then
you
can't
have
it
our
residential
zones,
all
kind
of
butt
up
against
each
other
and
butt
up
against
different
roads
in
some
places.
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D
That's
the
part
where
it
gets
a
little
tricky,
because
our
maps
only
show
density
and
each
density
touches
another
density.
And,
frankly,
if
it's,
if
it's
something
that's
right
on
one,
it's
not
part
of
the
neighborhood,
it's
in
a
couple
different
zones-
I
don't
think
I'd,
say
this
zone,
it's
okay!
That
zone
is
not
okay
as
soon
as
you
get
within
the
neighborhoods.
That's
a
different
problem.
We
just
heard
yesterday
for
tuesday
of
all
places.
That
would
be
me.
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We
can't
get
any
input
from
all
places
which
blew
me
away,
because
that's
a
little
neighborhood.
That
was
originally
wrapped
around
cutler
element-
color
middle
school-
it's
incredibly,
it's
crazy
to
have
it
now.
If
that
particular
house
was
one
of
the
houses
facing
route
one,
we
wouldn't
have
even
noticed
a
couple
extra
cars
we
wanted.
We
want
to
regulate
it,
but
without
a
problem
for
the
neighborhood
they
wouldn't
have
known
if
the
backyards
faced
each
other,
that
would
have
been
a
problem
one
of
itself
by
itself
along
a
major
road.
D
It
was
providing
my
house
in
my
neighborhood
and
it's
in
her
neighborhood
and
it
wouldn't
be
in
either
of
our
neighborhoods
and
therefore
we
wouldn't
care.
So
I
don't
think
it's
is
the
particular
zone.
That
is
the
thing
that
does
it
it's
much
more
fine-tuned
than
that.
You
think
that
we're
saying
we
want
a
special
permanent,
we'll
allow
them.
I
think,
that's
harmless,
to
have
a
special
permit,
but
then
we'd
also
need
to
come
up
with
what
are.
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D
The
criteria
and
the
criteria
would
be
along
those
lines.
I
suppose
we
could
do
it
that
way
and
or
draw
a
map
of
where
it
might
be
considered
still
always
have
to
do
with
special
improvement,
because
even
if
you
identify
the
trunk
lines
in
the
streets,
that
would
be
okay
on
the
corners
that
wouldn't
matter
because
they're
not
part
of
the
neighborhood,
then
maybe
they're,
okay,
but
then
still
a
special
permit,
because
if
their
backyard's
butt
up
against
the
neighborhood,
then
it
affects
the
neighborhood.
E
So
I
mean
30
days
seems
like
a
a
place
to
make
a
cut
off.
To
me
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
distinction,
I
think,
there's
a
legal
distinction
at
that
number.
I
know
that
I
checked
the
connecticut
department
or
motor
vehicle.
They
require
you
to
change
your
driver's
license
after
30
days
to
be
a
resident,
and
so
that
separates
you
know.
So,
there's
like
legal
precedent
for
that.
So
I
would
say:
that's
probably
a
good
benchmark
to
shoot
for
as
far
as
where
they
would
go.
E
I
think
one
of
my
biggest
concerns
is
always
on
this.
Commission
is
trying
to
anticipate
the
worst
thing
that
can
happen
when
we
make
decisions
like
this,
and
if
we
pick
a
neighborhood
or
a
place
and
say
it's
okay,
there
then
pretty
much
consider
that
place
that
we
pick
to
be
a
short-term
rental
district,
because
it's
everybody's
gonna,
that's
where
they're
gonna
flock
to,
and
then
every
single
house
in
that
place
will
be
a
short
term
almost.
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C
B
C
The
town
council
is
now
looking
like
it's
going
to
pass
this
ordinance.
So
sorry,
we've
got
two
levels
of
conversation
going
on
the
things
that
you
can
do
through
zoning
and
the
recommendations
you'd
like
to
make
to
town
council
to
update
or
amend
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
that
they're
considering.
E
Sorry,
but
I
think
that
we're
sort
of
talking
to
ourselves
here,
there's
not
a
conversation
going
on,
because
they,
the
town
council,
has
decided
that
they
aren't
communicating
with
us
or
they
won't
have
a
conversation
with
us
or
even
economic
development
which
to
me
is
sort
of
craziness
and-
and
I
think
that,
from
my
point
of
view,
then
that
makes
me
feel
like
we
need
to
do
every
single
thing
on
our
own
or
as
much
as
we
possibly
can.
It
makes
our
job
doubly
ugly.
E
I'm
not
okay,
so
anyway,
no
I'm
glad
go
right
ahead.
I
interrupt
people
all
the
time
and
I'm
bad
for
that,
but
I'll
try
so
a
special
permit.
I
think
it's
probably
you
know
absolutely
required,
but
you
know
I
don't
know
how
once
we
open
this
bag,
how
we
control
what
falls
out
of
it.
I
think
it's.
I
think
it
could
potentially
become
a
big
mess
and
the
other
thing
that
I
have
a
concern
with
this
might
not
be.
One
of
these
questions
is
the
idea
of
the
legal
non-conforming.
E
I
mean
I,
I
wrote
a
little
statement
here.
I
don't
know
if
I
should
read
it
now
or
later,
but
I
would
do
that
another.
Let
me
I'm
getting
mixed
up
here
so
like
even
even
the
definition,
because
you'd
asked
about
that
jeff,
so
the
definition
to
me
is
is
a
tough
one.
We
call
them
short-term
rentals,
but
we
don't.
I
mean
my
idea,
your
everyone
in
this
room's
idea.
What
a
short-term
rental
is
is
different.
E
There's
an
article
that
I
have
from
the
northern
day
from
june
30th
from
a
fella
who's
got
a
15
000
square
foot
home.
That
has
he's
doing
movie
productions
out
of
it
and
tour
bus
stops,
and
I
mean
he
calls
his
place,
a
short-term
rental.
So,
like
I
don't
know,
how
do
you
define?
How
do
you
have
a
definition
for
what
this
thing
is
and
then
tell
this
person
that
that
they
were
legal
non-conforming?
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A
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E
D
E
A
A
E
I
just
read
this:
okay,
our
rpocd
pocd
in
the
land
use
section,
distinguishes
between
residents
and
the
visitors
in
section
3-3,
and
it
defines
commercial
uses
for
lodging
in
sections
1-19
to
include
hotel
motel
in
bed
and
breakfast
and
other
lodging
uses.
That's
in
our
pocd
pocd
does
not
allow
commercial
uses
for
lodging
in
residential
areas.
E
So
for
me
there
are
three
simple
questions:
that's
what
we're
calling
whatever
you're
imagining
in
your
head,
a
short-term
rental
commercial.
I
think
yes,
are
they
providing
lodging
for
transient
use?
I
think
yes,
and
is
this
allowed
in
a
residential
district?
I
think
no
and
and
our
planning
staff
has
never
told
anyone
that
commercial
lodging
in
a
residential
neighborhood
was
allowable,
never
said
that.
E
C
So
yes,
one
thing
I
and
I
hear
your
frustration
and
I
knew
that
this
was
that
as
soon
as
we
took
this
job
that
this
was
going
to
be
a
huge
sticking
point
and
again
that's
something
that
our
firm
cannot.
You
know
we're
not
lawyers,
we
can't.
We
can't
make
that
determination
for
you
and
we
could.
We
could
spend
the
whole
evening
debating
this
point
and
it
has
to
be
resolved.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
what
I
am
hoping
for
from
tonight
is
that
we
try
to
do
a
mind.
C
Exercise
set
that
aside
for
now
and
say
all
right
that
aside,
what
is
your
ideal
outcome?
You
know
the
the
town
council's
actions
aside,
anything
else.
What
would
you
like
to
see?
Where
does
this
make
sense
to
you
and
whether
that
be
by
zone,
whether
it
be
by
an
overlay
that
you
might
want
to
create
whether
it
be
based
on
performance
standards?
C
E
D
E
D
E
There
is
a
dwelling
and
dwelling
unit,
but
it
doesn't
say
what
residential
is
and
I
have
an
idea.
I
said
it,
you
know,
that's
where
you
reside,
that's
where
residents
reside
driver's
license
something
you
know
and
in
and
so
then
this
was
the
next
best
place
that
I
could
find
something
that
that
described.
E
D
A
E
It
makes
me
think
that
maybe
we
don't
want
to
make
that's
why
I
wish
the
town
council
had
worked
with
us,
because
it
makes
me
then
feel
like
I
have
to
be
they're
not
really
addressing
this.
No,
but
it
could
make
our
job
easier.
Make
me
feel
more
comfortable
doing
what
we
have
to
do,
which
doesn't
at
this
point.
A
D
D
I
think
we
understand
things
that
we've
heard
and
I
think
that
fits
in
with
what
mike
was
saying
that
okay,
the
plcd,
is
not
the
regulations,
but
that
should
be
the
blueprint
for
the
regulations,
there's
a
very
clear
message
there
that
there's
residential
and
others
commercial
and
I
think,
I'm
not
sure
how
it
would
work.
But
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
start
and
in
order
to
keep
it
as
simple
as
possible
and
wasn't
very
complex
for
me,
especially
given
what
the
zoning
regulations
say.
D
They
do
make
the
distinction
between
residential
and
commercial.
They
do
say,
things
are
not
specified
here,
they're
noble
and
I
think
we
go
with
legal
interpretation,
and
that
would
clarify
and
start
off
with
this.
I'm
not
saying
that's
the
end
point
we
start
off
by
saying
the
status
of
str's,
whatever
str's,
to
find
that,
but
it's
prohibited.
This
idea
of
commercial
use
and
residential
zone
is
not
allowed
and
that's
why
I
think
it's
a
good
place
to
start
to
clarify
and
then
what
hal
was
talking
about
other
places.
D
D
D
It's
not
divided
in
this,
so
they
can
have
the
house
angels
parking
on
this
side
and
having
a
barbie
who's
going
with
all
kinds
of
you
know
foul
language
that
their
12
year
olds
get
to
hear
on
this
and
that's
a
horrendous
situation.
We
will
agree.
So
I
think
we
start
off
by
saying:
we
really
need
to
go
over
the
same
make
that
distinction,
and
then
we
start
to
say:
where
is
this
going
to
make
sense?
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D
D
D
D
D
C
I'll
interject
a
little
bit
if
zoning
is
not
the
way
to
organize
where
these
should
be
allowed.
Let's
start
thinking
about
this
in
terms
of
performance
standards,
whether
it
be
the
type
of
street
I
mean
you
didn't
mention
you
mentioned
that
you
know.
Maybe
this
isn't
applicable
in
the
residential
zones,
but
maybe
we
could
say
in
commercial
zones
or
mixed-use
zones
as
a
general
rule,
it's
it's
okay
with
conditions,
but
what
are
the
conditions
that
you
think
would
make
for
an
appropriate
location?
C
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
Apparently,
that's
working,
I
don't
know,
I
think
too.
Besides
hearing
from
our
customers
of
residents
also,
the
hotel
industry
hopefully
would
also
have
comments
on
something
like
an
old
one
too,
because
that
would
be
concentrating
on
something
that
might
be
seen
as
a
competition
to
someone
at
least
to
give
the
opportunity.
This
is
really
competing
with
hotel.
Hotels
are
two
or
four
rooms
at
a
time
without
a
house-
and
I
remember
actually
looking
for
having
a
family
reunion
in
the
area.
This
was
already
five
or
six
years
back.
It
was
actually
difficult.
D
We
actually
put
people
up
at
the
navy
lodge
there
was
no
place
to
put
20
people,
and
so
that's
a
different
competition.
That's
why
people
went
to
newport
because
you
direct
whole
houses
now
they're
coming
here
to
rent
the
house.
I
don't,
I
think
it's
an
addition
to.
I
don't
think
they're
hurting
because
of
short-term
rentals.
D
D
E
E
E
E
E
B
D
E
D
E
E
D
And
start
putting
something
together
and
as
we
bring
that
draft
to
you,
we
can
make
sure
we're
addressing
those
loopholes
as
best
as
we
possibly
can
within
the
allowance
of
what
somebody
can
do,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
if
people
are
leaning
towards
our.
We
only
want
to
see
this
in
commercial
and
mixed-use
cells
and
possibly
along
you
know,
collector
or
arterial
roads
via
a
special
permit.
Okay,
that's
a
category!
D
Now
we
would
move
on
to
what
are
the
criteria
you
want
to
see
within
that
special
permit
and
in
those
commercial
districts
that
might
be
easier
to
do
to
monitor
to
enforce
into
structure
than
an
overlay
zone,
because
where
would
you
want
the
overlay
zone
to
be
the
whole
town?
Or
is
it
just
going
to
be
commercial.
D
Yeah
I've
got
picturing
little
slivers
of
places.
Actually
I'm
thinking
that
it
would
be.
Maybe
we
can
come
up
with
it.
Based
on
what
we're
thinking,
I
mean
something
I
just
mentioned:
it
sounded
like
an
okay
idea.
It
was
actually
okay,
so
we
can't
put
it
some
anywhere
as
a
basis.
Let's
just
say
it's
going
back
to
rule
1,
how
far
away
from
commercial
away
from
a
commercial
home
is
appropriate.
We
want
it
in
the
middle
of
the
town.
Probably
not
it's
going
to
be
short-term
rental.
D
A
A
D
A
D
D
D
D
One
of
the
examples
given
was
that
maybe
we
could
have
not
too
many
of
them,
so
we're
going
to
allow
one,
but
then
the
next
one
has
to
be
lots
of
way.
That
kind
of
sandwiches
resonance
between
two
different
ones.
We
start
to
checkerboard.
I
think
we
probably
want
to
do
the
opposite
wherever
they
are
something
mystic,
it's
already
kind
of
destroyed
in
some
senses,
and
you
can't
turn
the
clock
back.
D
So
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
fix
everything
in
downtown
mississippi,
but
if
somebody's
a
single
residence
is
sitting
right
there
with
a
short-term
rental
on
either
side
when
you
sell
the
house,
it
probably
should
go
to
a
short-term
rental,
because
that
makes
sense
stop
damn
it.
While
there's
a
half
stop
you
have
to
stop
it.
That's
good,
but
I'm
saying
like
we're
saying:
stop
it
a
certain
distance
wherever.
A
C
The
responses
taken
as
a
whole,
it
looks
like
about
half
of
the
people
who
respond
to
that
survey
are
short-term
rental
owners
and
half
are
people
who
live
next
to
short-term
rentals
and
were
objecting
to
it.
I
it's
just
my
interpretation.
I
can't
know
that
for
sure,
but
I
I
think
that's
probably
what
you're
seeing
in
that
survey
yeah.
Oh
that's.
F
D
The
best,
in
some
cases,
no
matter
what
somebody
is
going
to
end
up
next
to
one
of
these
things,
because
it's
going
to
stop
some
place,
we
can't
either
let
me
cross
the
street
or
it's
going
to
be
next
to
them.
That's
just
the
nature
of
his
own
you're,
not
suffering.
Unless
you
have
none
at
all,
you're
going
to
have
cases,
but
what's.
D
F
F
Would
it
be
helpful
if
you
know,
maybe
in
the
interest
of
time
tonight,
you
know
horsley
whitton
could
map
the
the
walk
sheds
like
to
these
areas.
So,
for
example,
we
could
map
a
the
area
where
that
contributes
a
10-minute
walk
to
downtown
mystic
as
an
example
and
take
a
look
at
what
that
area
includes
four
different
districts
and
different
types
of
roads
and
get
a
feel
for
you
know
what
the
potential
obstacles
or
concerns
would
be
in
those
areas.
If
that
might
be
an
area
of
focus,
you
want
to
look
at.
C
D
I
think
both
of
those
are
true,
though,
is
that
one
is
instead
they're
kind
of
two
different
issues,
whereas
less
sense
might
be
okay,
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
where
it's
more
dense.
I
think
both
of
those
happen.
At
the
same
time,
what
we
are
saying
was
where
it's
more
dense,
we
very
narrowly
define
where
it
is
appropriate,
not
in
the
general
area,
but
you
say
the
10-minute
walk.
Exactly
I
think,
I'd
like
to
see
was
10
minutes.
D
D
C
F
D
D
E
I
think
for
me,
that
issue
is
like,
but
so
like
in
dense
areas.
It's
probably
not
desirable
to
have
these
things
right
next
to
people
who
are
trying
to
have
some
peace
in
their
lives,
and
then
I
then,
when
you
have
them
in
very
more
rural
areas,
then
you're
increasing
traffic
and
you're
also
going
to
be
increasing
sprawl
because
you're
going
to
see
either
new
development
in
these
places,
because
it'll
definitely
be
worth
it
to
put
up
a
house
specifically
for
this.
E
I
just
look
at
our,
like,
I
think,
of
our
map
in
that
area
and
like
whose
house
am
I
gonna
put
it
next
to
you
know,
and
so,
like
I
try
to
think
of
those
every
I
mean.
Groton
is
very
dense.
All
around
mystic
there's
little
neighborhoods.
They
might
not
be
formal
or
you
know
the
you
know
the
perfect
subdivision,
but
I
don't
know
where
do
you
put
on
my
it's
hard.
D
C
C
Certainly,
you
used
to
be
able
to
find
them
either
walking
distance
to
a
commercial
area
walking
walking
distance
to
a
beach,
and
as
someone
earlier
mentioned,
there
are
a
number
of
people
who
come
because
they're
traveling
with
family
or
children,
and
want
to
have
that
kind
of
space
together
that
you
can't
get
in
a
hotel.
So
sometimes
even
if
it's
not
walkable
to
those
things,
it's
the
the
size
of
the
property
that
that
attracts
families
or
people
who
are
you
know
coming
for.
C
E
E
E
D
Who
the
heck
would
want
to
live
there,
except
for
maybe
it's
a
short-term
rental
and
as
you
go
up
the
street,
you
think
who
wants
to
live
in
these
houses
right
there,
especially
the
one.
That's
right
behind
the
board,
where
there
was
one
that
not
really
there's
so
much
traffic
so
much
going
on,
but
there's
one
that
was
just
redone
just
behind
the
memorial.
That's
a
global
hill
and
which
house
well,
not
the
witch
house,
but
the
one
in
front
of
them.
D
It
used
to
be
at
somebody's
house,
not
not
the
tv
guy
but
justice
in
the
piece
and
they
reached
the
house
beautifully
and
it's
there's
a
street
the
front
of
the
street
in
the
back
and
people
parking
all
over
the
place.
And,
frankly,
it's
not
a
great
place
to
live,
but
it's
certainly
not
in
neighborhoods
across
the
library
across
from
group.
One
okay.
We
don't
want
to
stop
back
from
being
short-term
rental,
it's
probably
better
as
a
short-term
rental
and,
as
you
said,
the
witch
house,
the
house
behind
it
you're
twenty.
D
Enormous
house
that's
looks
like
he's
going
to
complete
it.
It
looks
like
he's
scorpio,
that's
a
perfectly
appropriate
house.
It
doesn't
bother
anybody's
neighborhood
on
one
side.
There's
no
neighbors
on
the
other
side
of
the
street.
Is
the
library
fine
perfectly
good
place
that
won't
bother
anybody?
D
E
Think
I
think
I
have
a
hard
time
because
I
know
what's
happened,
having
lived
in
this
town
for
25
years
and
seen
how
mystic
has
grown
and
developed
and
like
I
won't,
I
can't
even
I
I
know
better
than
to
even
go
through
downtown
mystic
anymore,
and
so
for
me
personally
telling
someone
who
lives
there,
and
this
is
their
home
and
they've
lived
there.
Their
whole
life
that
I'm
gonna
make
your
life
worse
is
is
is
a
hard
place
for
me
to
go.
D
F
C
So
what
I
am
hearing
is
that
there
seems
to
be
a
general
comfort
level
with
allowing
these
in
commercial
and
mixed
use
zones
and
there's
this
additional
conversation
about
potentially
allowing
them
on
major
corridors
outside
those
zones.
If
they
meet
certain
criteria,
the
largest
one
seeming
to
be
that
they
do
not
abut
a
residential
property
within
a
neighborhood
or
subdivision.
D
Sorry,
it'd
be
good
to
look
at
the
mixed
news
zones
that
we
might
be
under
consideration,
because
a
lot
of
them
was
very
much
residential.
I
mean
some
mixed
mx
zones
are
like
more
commercial
than
others,
but
we
all
really
look
at
what
is
it?
Where
is
it
this
way,
or
that
way?
Let's
see,
if
anything
makes
sense,.
C
And
a
related
question
and
again
this
is
something
that
maybe
you
could
get
away
with
regulating
in
zoning.
I'm
not
sure
your
your
solicitor
has
suggested
to
us
that
he
would
not
be
comfortable
with
this,
and
certainly
we
would
prefer
it
be
regulated
in
the
general
ordinance.
But
what
is
your
feeling
about
owner-occupied?
E
D
E
This
is
a
question
for
staff:
can
there
be
design
standards
that
can
be
like?
Oh
so
we're
talking
about?
I
mean
when
so.
This
is
my
how
I
imagine
these
things
right.
They
were
residential
houses,
but
suppose
I
mean
I'm
trying
to
imagine.
If
you
allowed
these
things
in
commercial
area,
say
along
route
184
as
a
softening
mechanism
to
the
heavy
and
commercial
use.
That's
there
kind
of
to
make
it
more
of
a
place
where
it
might
appear
to
be
a
little
more
residential
rather
than
our
commercial
area.
D
So
I
think
some
of
this
we
have
to
remember
that
we
want
to
have
certain
standards
that
people
feel
comfortable
with,
but
there's
also
going
to
be
things
that
are
dictated
by
the
market,
because
if
you
plop
a
short-term
rental
down,
you
didn't
say
you
want
to
allow
the
industrial
zone.
Oh
we'll,
allow
them
industrial
zones-
and
you
put
it
right
next
to
a
working,
gravel
bank
and
people,
probably
that
they'll
get
a
few
negative
reviews.
D
C
C
B
E
D
D
E
D
C
Thinks
would
be
most.
Are
there
other
things
related
to
short-term
rental
that
you
want
to
discuss
tonight,
or
can
we
take
a
few
minutes
to
talk
about
cannabis
and
data
centers,
and
I
will
say
two
two
decisions
we
would
hope
to
come
to
tonight.
We
wanted
to
see
how
you
feel
about
flat
out
prohibiting
versus
again
allowing
with
conditions,
cannabis
and
adult
campus
use
and
data
centers.
So
I
know
we
would.
D
And
yes,
sometimes
they
drink
too
much
all
of
this
and
someone
drink
one
of
those,
but
with
this
drug
which
is
so
addictive
and
damaging,
and
our
iq
has
changed
these
other
things
like
that.
I
think
we're
really
talking
about
that's
why
I
understand
it:
yeah
yeah.
We
were
going
one
after
this,
but
guess
what
your
parents
can
get
sixty
percent.
You
know-
and
I
don't
know
how
the
kids
are
doing
this-
I'm
not
finding
great.
D
D
B
E
C
Yeah,
so
in
brief,
there
had
been
a
rule
that
said
any
community
of
25,
000
or
more
could
only
have
one
such
establishment,
basically
one
one
establishment
for
25
000
people,
and
that
was
set
to
sunset
in
2024,
but
the
legislature
apparently
felt
they're
getting
so
much
demand
that
they
lifted
that
two
years
early
so
right.
Currently,
the
state
does
not
set
a
density
limit
on
the
number
of
establishments.
C
D
Buying
a
couple
in
massachusetts
and
they're
on
a
road
no
different
than
what
you
would
see
along
our
one
or
sometimes
in
walkable
centers,
you
see
them
and
there's
not
a
line
out
the
door.
It's
almost
it's
similar
to
a
liquor
store
or
a
head
shop.
You
know,
like
we've
had
in
town
it's
that
type
of
a
presence,
at
least
for
the
retail
operation.
D
D
E
I
think
from
like
a
lot
of
times,
you
see
the
hoteling's
principle
right.
Businesses
want
to
congregate
together
so
that
you
create
a
restaurant
district
right,
so
is:
do
we
want
that?
Because
that's
what
you
know
typically
they
want
to
do
is
that's
why
you
see
mcdonald's
next
to
burger
king
next
to
kentucky
fried
chicken?
Shall
we
just?
Can
we.
D
C
C
Jeff,
thank
you.
I
was
just
I
say,
sort
of
three
things:
how
many
people
feel
that
cannabis
should
be
prohibited
in
the
town?
How
many
feel
that,
and
not
that
you
have
much
control
over
this,
but
that
this
should
be
a
referendum,
that
you
know
that
that's
an
option
for
communities
that
10
percent
of
the
population
could
request
a
referendum
or
three:
are
you
comfortable
allowing
them
with
conditions
in
in
certain
locations?
How
are
people
feeling
at
this
moment
this.
C
Said
yeah
we'd
be
comfortable
with
all
these
different
uses
in
these
districts.
You've
had
that
conversation,
but
staff
wanted
us
to
take
a
step
back
and
given
the
additional
information
that
you've
received
and
conversation
that
we've
heard
from
you,
we
just
want
to
take
your
pulse
again
and
say:
you
know:
are
people
still
comfortable
allowing.
F
C
D
Talk
yeah
dispense.
You
know
I
would
go
around
the
table
so
yeah.
I
don't
think
it
can
be
prohibited.
So
I'll
say
no,
I'm
okay
with
it
not
to
be
prohibited
and
certainly
permitted
with
conditions
really
severe
ones,
which
might
also
be
have
to
be
comparable
with
liquor
sales,
which
I
think
we
should
probably
look
at
the
conditions
for
that
at
the
exact
same
time,
because
it
just
occurred
to
me
that
it
was
like
restored
directly
in
front
of
blood
chester.
B
E
A
lot
of
things
lately
can't
focus
on
everything,
so
that's
it!
No!
No!
I
don't
do
that
stuff,
but
I'm
okay,
so
that's
it.
I
think
some
distances
and
then
and
then
comparable
to
alcohol,
and
if
we
can
control
the
hour
hours
of
operation,
that
would
probably
be
beneficial
as
well,
and
then
this
is
going
to
go
to
public
hearing
too
right
like
I
would
also
be
sensitive
about
maybe
places
like
the
military
facility,
the
sub
base
they
might
want
to
be.