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From YouTube: Town of Groton Planning & Zoning Commission - 4/14/20
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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting - Click on the link below to view the agenda.
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A
B
Right
good
evening,
everyone,
this
is
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
meeting
of
April
14
2020
the
meetings
taking
place
via
zoom
format
or
the
meeting
is
Jeff
Prichard.
The
co-host
of
the
meeting
are
Diane,
Glen
Bosque
and
me
Doug,
Jones,
Kara
Hovland
is
also
attending
to
take
minutes,
she's
also
on
staff
planning
and
development
office.
So,
just
as
a
reminder,
anyone
speaking
should
state
their
names
prior
to
speaking,
the
panelists
in
this
webinar
are
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
members
and
planning
staff.
B
Remember
to
raise
your
hand
when
you
want
to
speak
and
you'll
be
called
upon
by
the
Chairman
and
I'm
going
to
mute
everyone
once
we
get
going,
and
so
you
will
have
to
raise
your
hand
for
voting
to
make
a
motion
or
second
raise
your
hand.
Jeff
will
acknowledge
you
as
well
at
the
same
process
for
a
second
and
then
he'll
call
it
will
call
vote.
So
we
can
record
everybody's
foes.
B
Applicants
are
going
to
be
unmuted
by
the
host
when
their
application
is
up
on
the
agenda,
so
they'll
be
able
to
present
their
application.
Present
plans
answer
questions,
they'll,
be
able
to
share
their
documents
on
the
screen
and,
as
a
reminder,
the
applicants
should
also
state
their
names
prior
to
speaking
each
time.
B
B
A
So
the
first
step
so
I'm
opening
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
meeting
first
item
is
a
roll
call,
I
guess
everybody's
mooted.
They
can't
say
it,
but
we
got
Michael
Caine
this
here
by
al
saud,
pirate,
our
box,
so
Sutherland
Stephane
steve-o,
to
check
heaven
football
they're
all
here.
So
everyone's
present
that
were
regular
members
will
be
voting
tonight.
A
A
A
Paragraph
on
the
seventh
paragraph,
starting
with
Davis
reviewed,
you
have
an
abbreviated
makes
from
the
hif.
Could
you
spell
it
out
unless
you
find
it
somewhere
else?
In
that
section,
I
didn't
see
it.
You
shouldn't
have
a
first
time.
You
have
something
in
there
ought
to
be
spelled
out,
then
parentheses
that
hif
and
then
you
can
use
it
afterwards.
A
A
A
D
B
B
A
A
B
F
Right
good
evening,
commission
members
and
staff,
my
name
is:
Greg
fetis,
fetish
engineering
in
office
at
70,
Essex,
Street,
Mystic
Connecticut,
here
presenting
the
application
for
central
hall
and
the
central
hall
carport
and
the
tiff
building
storage
building.
All
in
one
application.
We
can
start
with.
F
E
E
D
F
Mostly
weather
events
or
elderly
folks
or
people
that
just
need
to
get
closer
to
the
facility
or
closer
to
the
central
hall
building,
the
parking
is
remote.
So
the
24
parking
spaces
for
the
12
condo
units,
nine
are
located
at
the
pump
station
parking
lot
and
15
are
located
at
the
TIF
building
parking
lot
behind
the
TIF
building.
F
F
F
B
G
B
F
D
B
B
E
G
Essentially,
there's
six
columns
the
fairly
slander
but
they're,
more
there's
somewhat
traditional.
Looking
columns
to
keep
in
the
context
of
the
building
and
the
awning
fabric
will
be
similar
to
the
awning.
That's
on
the
building
on
the
very
end
of
it,
you
can
see
there's
a
car
under
there.
You
can
get
the
sense
of
the
relative
height
with
that
car
there
and
it
basically
takes
up
the
whole
area
of
the
service
driveway
there,
except
if
you
look
at
the
plan
view.
G
So
if
you
look
at
the
blow-up
at
the
bottom,
there
in
the
lower
right
hand,
corner
of
the
footprint
there's
sort
of
a
cut
out
there,
that's
not
covered
and
that
what
came
about
as
a
result,
when
we
went
for
the
variance
and
working
with
the
neighbor
of
that
adjacent
property,
they
were
concerned
that
it
was
too
close
to
their
property.
So
we
worked
with
them
in
order
to
get
that
accrue
at
zba.
So
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
cut
there
and
that
end
of
the
car
Court
is
not
for
vehicles.
G
There's
also
a
fence
that
runs
along
that
southern
property
line,
and
it's
built
out
of
sections
that
are
removable
so
that
the
neighbors
can
service
their
equipment
from
our
driveway
backside.
So
we
recognize
that
they'll
be
using
that
occasionally
to
service
their
equipment,
and
that's
essentially
it
unless
you
have
questions
about
it.
B
E
A
F
F
F
F
2016-17,
maybe
at
the
request
of
the
town,
we
had
always
planned
on
replacing
it
with
a
storage
building.
So
this
is
the
proposed
building.
It's
a
little
bit
smaller
than
the
original
building.
It's
a
little
bit
further
away
from
the
property
line.
We
did
also
get
variances
for
this
and
we
also
I
want
to
let
Peter
go
into
the
details
of
it,
but
we
originally
had
20
parking
spaces
behind
the
tooth
building.
F
So
with
with
the
addition
of
with
this
small
addition,
and
then
you
can
see
right
in
this
area,
there's
a
proposed
12-foot
emergency
fire
axis
that
extends
from
Pearl
Street
and
basically
winds
right
through
there's
a
reposed
swing,
kind
of
removable
gate
that
it
will
allow
fire
access
through
fire
access
to
the
adjacent
properties
and
ultimately
ends
up
on
gravel
street.
So
previous,
the
previous
approval
had
a
little
smaller
fire.
F
I,
don't
know
if
I'd
call
it
a
lane
or
not,
but
it
was
a
little
bit
of
a
spot
right
here
where
that
one
is
and
where
the
chapter
ones
dumpsters
are.
There
was
a
little
bit
of
a
like
a
like
a
fire
lane.
I,
wouldn't
call
it
a
full
lane
because
it
didn't
go
all
the
way
through,
but
we
were
successful
in
getting
fire
access
all
the
way
through
with
that
gate,
so
small,
smaller
vehicles
can
get
all
the
way
through
their
larger
ladder.
F
F
F
Those
spaces
were
proposing
to
give
them
mystic
art
Association
passes,
so
the
five
would
be
over
there
and
15
spaces
would
be
for
the
condos
over
at
from
central
hall,
so
15
spaces,
plus
nine
at
the
pump
station.
That's
that's
not
changing
on
the
plan.
The
only
change
would
be
previously.
We
had
the
five
residential
units
parked
here
now.
We're
gonna
have
them
parked
over
at
the
mystic
art
center.
I.
Think
the
staffs
preference
is
that
we
park
with
the
remaining
four
spaces.
We
parked
them
on
the
tipped
lock.
F
There
have
parking
spaces
at
the
mystic
Art
Association,
and
it's
been
successful
for
the
last
ten
years,
even
though
we're
not
required
by
the
current
zoning
regulations
to
provide
spaces
for
the
retail
we
are
in
our
leases
providing
one
space
per
tenant
which,
since
there's
four
tenants,
are
for
retail
tenants
like
to
keep
them
on
this
lot
versus
splitting
up
the
residential
I
know.
I
know,
staff
preference
is
probably
the
other
way
around.
That's
how
is
historically
has
been,
but
I
think
it
works
best
for
our
retail
clients
and
I.
F
F
Sure
we
are
well
that
the
current
cam
application
kind
of
covers
both
areas.
We
there's
really
minor
changes
regarding
especially
36
West
Main.
It's
relatively
far
from
from
the
Mystic
River,
the
best
management
practices
for
erosion
control.
We
really
aren't
disturbing
a
lot
of
area.
If
you
look
at
the
proposed
storage
building
is
23
by
16
that
we're
gonna
put
flood
venting
in
as
a
request,
I
think
from
I
think
it
was
a
staff
request,
maybe
from
the
CPA
application,
but
we're
not
necessarily
required,
because
it's
just
storage,
it
is
below
the
flood
elevation.
F
F
A
F
A
H
B
G
G
Of
the
addition,
it
is
similar
to
the
architecture.
That's
there
now,
there's
a
one-story
bump
out
on
the
back
of
the
building
right
now
and
we're
just
sort
of
mimicking
that
to
keep
it
in
context
and
then
there's
also
in
that
plan
you
can
see
there's
a
rear
exit
door
from
one
of
the
retail
spaces
on
the
left.
There's
another
one
on
the
right
and
we're
relocating
those
from
their
existing
position
in
order
to
accommodate
the
storage
building,
but
those
rear
exits
will
still
remain
and
there's
little
canvas
canopies
over
those
exits.
G
E
So,
basically,
I
think
we
sent
out
the
draft
motion
today
for
the
project,
one
of
the
things
the
first
thing.
The
item
on
the
agenda
is
your
decision
should,
should
the
four
extra
spaces
or
the
spaces
at
the
TIF
parking
lot?
Should
they
be
for
the
residents,
the
residential
units
at
the
TIF
building,
or
should
they
be
for
the
commercial
spaces
at
the
tip
building?
E
So,
as
as
great
talked
about
it,
he's
proposing
that
the
five
residential
units
they're
better
at
the
TIF
building,
they'd
be
parked
over
at
the
mystic
Museum
of
Art
with
the
least
space.
So
that's
one
thing
you
should
decide
on.
We
would
be
recommending
that
the
spaces
be
used
for
the
resident
units,
at
least
the
four
spaces
that
are
there.
So
that's
an
item
number
one
just
item
number
two
is
any
parking
validation
needs
to
meet
the
zoning
Reds.
E
It's
it's
laid
out
with
a
lot
of
detail
and
the
zoning
recs
and
their
zoning
regs
on
what
they
have
to
do,
if
they're
doing
validation
as
far
as
signage
in
the
window,
signage
at
the
register,
and
also
submitting
that
submitting
a
narrative
each
each
January
on
how
they
are
actually
participating
in
that
program.
And
then.
D
E
Four
is
just
the
general
condition
that
basically
says
all
the
other
requirements
of
the
previous
site
plans.
There's
been
a
number
of
them
and
a
number
of
modifications,
they're
all
still
in
effect,
unless
specifically
modified
by
this
site
plan.
So,
basically,
all
the
conditions
that
they
previously
have
for
everything
else
on
the
sites
are
still
still
valid.
E
Five
is
the
the
parking
design
at
TIFF
was
basically
reviewed
by
the
fire
marshal
and
he's
actually
approved
the
design,
but
he
also
wants
some
appropriate
signage
and
pavement
pavement
markers
put
in
place
prior
to
construction
of
the
parking
spaces
back
there.
So
that's
number
five
and
then
staff
technical
items
be
addressed.
E
D
E
Were
it
was
never
proposed
for
them
to
go
through
that
area,
but
they
will
be
pro
in
through
the
pump
station
property
to
get
up
to
the
ramp
that
gets
up
to
the
deck.
So
we
want
to
make
sure,
there's
appropriate
signage
in
there,
so
that
the
public
realizes
that
they
can
get
to
the
deck
from
gravel
street.
So
that's
just
the
motion
for
the
cam
application.
A
D
A
A
I
I
If
you
go
from
the
right
to
the
left,
one
two
three:
that
third
space,
which
is
existing
the
line
for
the
parking
space
isn't
drawn
on
the
on
the
on
the
plan
that
I
have
here
and
I'm
wondering
what
happens
when
you
actually
put
a
car
in
that
space
for
us
or
a
small
little
large
vehicle.
It's
gonna
impede
the
ability
of
cars
to
park
in
those
two
new
proposed
spots.
It's
actually
going
to
go
out
further
than
what
you're
seeing
there's
no
line
there
at
this
point.
Are
you
following
me.
F
I
F
F
I
I
F
I
F
Was
approved
previously,
it
was
was
borderline
and
I.
Think
we-
and
you
know
with
with
getting
that
fire
access
lane
in
there,
and
it
was
just
we
kind
of
did
the
best
we
could
I
I
agree:
they're,
tight,
they're,
not
ideal,
but
again
it's
the
same
people
parking.
You
know
we
have
a
little
bit
of
control
over
those
spaces,
so
I
think
we
can
accommodate
a
smaller
car
and
that
info.
F
D
I
F
Actually,
from
both
sides,
so
I
think
the
larger
vehicles
and
Tony,
Tony
and
Fritz
are
very
aware
of
this
plan
and
very
aware
of
their
access
from
gravel,
which
is
not
not
the
greatest
either
it's
a
little
it's
better
than
Pearl
Street,
because
Pearl
Street
is
very
tight.
Coming
in
it'll
be
from
both
sides,
it
kind
of
depends
on
what
the
call
is
and
okay.
D
I
I
I
I
F
F
B
B
G
G
G
G
I
C
Okay,
I'm
gonna
move
backwards
through
the
items
is
that,
frankly,
I
can
see
benefit
either
way,
whether
it's
the
residential
use
or
the
commercial
use,
there's
going
to
be
supplies
coming
in
they'll,
be
I'm
trying
to
think
of
which
will
have
less
of
an
impact
on
these
fairly
miserable
little
parking
lots.
So
maybe
maybe
I
have
to
bow
in
favor
of
the
residential
use
just
because
of
the
kind
of
vehicles
and
how
often
those
vehicles
removed
not
whether
I
care,
whether
the
residents
would
use
it
or
the
commercials,
the
commercial
use
would
use
it.
C
But
what
would
be
there?
And
if
I'm,
a
commercial
use
I'm
not
going
to
have
a
minivan
a
tiny
little
car
I
need
something
of
some
decent
size.
The
tendency
would
have
to
be
for
a
larger
vehicles
because
that's
what
they
have
and
that's
where
they're
spaces
so
I
would
only
for
that
reason.
I
would
just
think
I
think
I'd
rather
have.
C
Or
the
I
am
concerned
with
those
parking
spaces,
I
mean
I
was
looking
at
those
parking
spaces
too,
and
I
think
the
ones
parking
space
that
doesn't
have
the
lines
I'm,
not
quite
sure
how
we're
talk
about
the
two
parking
spaces
that
were
sort
of
recessed
to
give
you
24
feet
behind
it.
Next
to
it.
There's
another
space
for
the
car
in
there.
C
I
can't
see
any
way
that
those
cars
can
maneuver
in
and
out
of
those
spaces,
but
didn't
maybe
it
was
horrible
before
and
maybe
it's
more
horrible
now
I
just
I,
don't
understand
how
you
could
actually
maneuver
a
car
into
that.
That's
anything
bigger
than
a
Mini
Cooper
I.
Just
can't
imagine
it
so!
Maybe
I'd
have
to
yes
that
space
there
you're
pointing
to
yeah
this
one.
If
there's
a
16-foot
regular
with
car
in
there,
how
does
the
space
just
to
the
right
of
it?
How
does
a
car
get
into
there?
C
I,
don't
understand
that
it
would
take
some
doing,
but
once
you
fill
in
a
square
that
looks
like
a
car,
maybe
the
one
that's
closer
to
the
fence,
I
suppose
that
would
be
okay
if
we
backs
out
carefully-
and
it's
done
this
professionally
for
a
while-
but
understanding
I
understand
how
in
an
urban
area
got
some
with
a
wacky
spaces
and
especially
things
that
are
in
the
basement
of
the
building.
You
could
be
wackier
that
one
I
can't
figure
out
a
route
to
get
that
car
in
if
there's
already
car
part
in
there.
C
So
maybe
I
just
need
to
see
that
clarify
to
say
compact,
but
I'm,
not
sure
what
that
means
and
I
would
actually
think
that
you
just
need
to
actually
cheat
that
that
last
space
to
the
south,
a
little
bit
more.
If
you
just
got
a
little
paved
area,
just
give
some
breathing
room,
maybe
that
space
just
has
to
come
in
board
a
bit
because
I
I
just
don't
understand
how
it
works.
Otherwise,.
F
Well,
I
think
if
this
is
Greg
fetes
again,
if
this
this
space
is
occupied
by
a
smaller
car,
a
vehicle
can
come
in
and
swing
closer
to
this
space
up
here
and
swing
into
that
spot.
I
can
I
can
put
a
turning
radius
on
it,
but
I.
You
know,
99.9%
sure
that
we
can
swing
into
there
and
get
into
both
spaces
is
again.
Is
that
ideal?
No,
it
wasn't
ideal
before
I
think
we
didn't
make
it
worse
because
we
lost
the
spot.
F
You
have
the
same
people
parking
in
those
spots
all
the
time,
so
they're
designated
spots
for
designated
either
retail.
Hopefully,
if
you
guys
can
see
see
that
way,
but
if
they're
residential,
it's
gonna,
be
the
it's
gonna
be
assigned
to
apartment,
one
one
a
and
you
know
we'll
we'll
work
our
best
with
our
with
our
or
our
leases
to
have
the
smaller
cars
in
those
three
spots.
F
F
C
C
F
F
This
is
the
chapter
one
boundary
here
which
currently
we're
working
with
them
to
kind
of
rearrange
their
stuff
back
there
in
order
to
make
this
all
work,
but
they
can
get
a
hook
and
ladder
in
from
gravel
street
and
they'd
have
the
ability
to
kind
of
pull
straight.
They
wouldn't
be
able
to
make
turns,
but
they'd
be
able
to
get
in
pretty
close
in
order
to
to
deal
with
a
fire
in
the
back
of
the
chip
building.
All
right.
D
C
Right,
okay,
and
with
respect
to
the
the
carport
I'm
fine
with
it
I
think
Peters
spruced
it
up
a
bit
to
make
it
match
what
you've
got
there.
I
can
see
where
so
long
as
it's
it's
signed
appropriately
being
a
15
minute
or
20
minute,
whatever
it
is,
and
I
don't
think,
I'd
want
to
dissuade
pedestrians
from
accessing
the
building
that
way,
because
without
a
car
in
there,
it's
absolutely
going
to
be
the
way
that
everyone
wants
to
walk
in.
C
F
I
think
it
it's
really
just
a
very
short
difference.
They're
gonna
be
walking
if
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong
Deb,
but
they're
Diane
they'll
be
walking
between
the
pump
station
kind
of
n
the
Transformers
here,
there's
a
wide
sidewalk
810
feet
wide.
That
would
lead
you
right
to
the
ramp
associated
with
the
public
access,
so
I
think
we
are.
Our
residents
would
go
through
under
the
carport
for
the
most
part,
we're
not
going
to
invite
the
public
to
go
that
way,
but
in
obviously
yes
some
someone
might
someone
might
do
that
if.
C
There's
a
drop
of
rain
in
the
air
they'll
go
through
that
way,
I'm
already
sorry
to
see
the
loss
of
our
continuum
of
canopies
in
the
front
of
the
building,
so
that
this
is
a
welcome
addition,
for
that
is
there
any
concern
about.
We've
got
a
little
sloped
roof
which
will
be
dumping
that
much
more
stuff
on
the
adjacent
transformers.
I
don't
care,
but
the
things
that
are
against
the
building
is
that
condenser
units,
or
something
like
that?
What
is
those
so.
G
C
G
C
K
F
J
F
F
F
They'll
specifically
be
for
central
hall
I
believe
we
are
gonna,
assign
them
specific
spaces.
So
15
of
those
spaces
that
behind
the
TIF
building
will
be
designated
for
central
hall
are
condos.
Are
they
gonna
I?
Don't
I,
don't
know
that
they're
gonna
be
specific,
but
most
likely
they
will
be
because
otherwise
they'll
be
very
difficult
to
control.
I
mean
the
entrance
to
Pearl
Street.
The
parking
area
is
gonna,
be
gated,
so
in
theory
you
won't
be
able
to
get
in.
Unless
you
are,
you
have
a
pass
to
get
in.
K
A
J
F
F
G
J
F
F
J
J
A
L
I'm
sure
so,
first
answer
the
question:
clearly
residential,
not
commercial,
and
then
the
only
other
second
question
has
can
I
see
the
the
carport.
So
when
you
exit
the
carport,
which
I
presume
you're
backing
up
cuz,
it's
a
one-way
right
is
the
sidewalk
on
that
side
or
just
on
the
other
side
of
gravel
street.
A
F
There's
a
sidewalk
on
that
side,
so
you
would
be
backing
across
the
sidewalk
yeah
with
that
that
use
hasn't
changed.
The
only
difference
between
the
approved
plan.
This
plan
is
we're
putting
a
cover
over
it,
so
it
was
always
death.
It
was
always
destined
to
be
a
drop-off
yeah
spot
yeah
again
downtown,
not
ideal,
but
well.
L
F
A
F
So
yeah,
so
the
so
that
you
can
see
the
hatched
ones
up
here
and
over
here
are
actually
stone
with
the
border,
so
they'll
be
very
well
defined
and
will
have
kind
of,
although
we
don't
show
it,
there's
signs
there
now
that
clearly
show
what
what
space
is
for
what
and
then
the
ones
down
here
and
paint
on
actually
on
to
concrete,
so
those
can
actually
be
striped
clearly,
and
these
two
down
here
would
be
again
the
border.
We
call
out
a
soldier
course
so
Belgian
block
or
jumbo
pavers.
G
G
A
F
F
We
just
think
it's
it's
best.
We
we
feel,
like
the
the
retail
folks,
are
moving
about
a
little
bit
more
than
the
residential
they
typically
the
residential
come
home
leave
in
the
morning
come
home
in
the
evening,
and
that's
probably
it
the
retail,
maybe
in
and
out
a
little
bit
more,
so
it
just
might
be
more
convenient
for
them
with
the
four
stores
the
retail
folks
pay
higher
rent.
You
know
that
now
that
that
makes
a
difference
too.
F
Maybe
this
proceeding,
but
you
know
we
just
think
that
it's
it's
it's
the
right
thing
to
do,
for
the
for
the
retail
folks
and
and
we've
got
some
history
with
the
residential
parking
over
at
the
mystic
arts
center
with
the
ice
cream
building
and
it
works.
You
know
my
client
has
four
or
five
different
buildings
downtown
and
they're
very
aware
of
what
the
needs
of
their
residential
tenants
are
as
well
as
their
commercial
tenants,
and
we,
you
know
we
prefer
not
to
be
tied
down
to
to
the
residential
folks
parking.
There
see.
D
A
G
G
I
G
A
Mod
I'll
make
a
motion:
the
groom
of
Si
t20
OH
site
plan
modification
for
central
hall
for
18-22
West
Main
Street.
There
are
site
improvements
at
36,
West,
Main,
Street,
subject
to
the
following
modifications:
1,
a
minimum
of
4
parking
spaces
for
the
residential
units
at
36,
West
Main
Street
shall
remain
on
site
to
the
parking
validation
for
all
commercial
usage
shall
meet
the
insert
zoning
regulation.
Section
8.2
6
point
e
at
all
times,
including
all
signage
requirements
in
annual
proof,
anticipation
submitted
to
OPDs
3
all
East
parking
spaces
show
meet
section.
A
Eight
point:
two
six
point:
F
of
the
zoning
regulations
at
all
times,
including
the
seminal
of
annual
renewals
OPDs.
The
current
lease
documents
for
all
spaces
shall
be
submitted
to
the
office
of
Planning
and
Development
services
within
sixty
days
of
this
approval
for
all
conditions
and
requirements
of
previously
approved
site
plans
for
18-22
West
Main
Street
in
36,
West
Main
Street
are
still
in
effect,
unless
specifically
modified
by
ASI
t20
OH.
Five
of
the
parking
plan,
436
West
Main
Street
requires
Fire
Marshal
approval
of
appropriate
signage
and
pavement
markings
prior
to
start
of
construction.
A
C
D
I
A
L
A
A
A
When
I
make
a
motion
for
the
camp
to
approve
the
coastal
site
plan,
application
for
si
T
2010
so
based
upon
the
following
findings
and
conditions,
Commission
hereby
finds
that
the
application
is
consistent
with
all
applicable
goals
and
policies
of
CGS
22a
92.
It
incorporates
all
reasonable
measures
which
would
mitigate
adverse
impacts
of
the
proposed
activity
in
both
coastal
resources
and
on
existing
and
future
water,
dependent,
reactivities,
I,
so
move
sir
second,
okay.
D
A
A
A
M
B
M
J
N
N
N
N
What
we
did
for
one
thing
was
to
relocate
a
screen
here:
kind
of
a
low
screen.
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
can
see
that
on
my
screen,
but
that
screen
is
roughly
in
this
area.
Let
me
widen
it
up
a
little
bit,
so
you
can
see
so
it's
in
that
area.
The
other
thing
that
we
did
is
we
went
back
to
our
engineers
and
asked
them
to
rework
some
of
this
ductwork.
That
was
on
the
on
the
rooftop
that
was
closer
to
the
edge
here
and
could
have
been
seen.
N
Perhaps
so
they
come
and
they
they
gave
a
change
order,
which
is
a
bulletin
that
was
issued
to
the
contractor,
so
that
all
of
that
stuff
winds
up
behind
this
three-foot
high
tall
screen,
the
other
area
that
we
learned
that
the
Commission
was
concerned
about
was
the
screening
on
the
very
high
roof.
What
we
did
is
we
took
that
a
little
further,
this
direction,
you
see
if
my
pencil
still
works,
so
we
took
that
further
this
direction
and
we
made
a
return
on
it.
Pardon
my
digital
drawing
skills.
This
is
not
my
usual
medium
here.
N
N
N
Moving
along
the
sidewalk
and
looking
back
at
the
building,
I
should
mention
also
that
we
do
have
a
version
of
this
with
the
trees
that
we
intend,
as
Diane
pointed
out,
I
think
in
her
email.
Of
course,
the
trees
will
not
be
the
full
height
as
we're
showing
them
when
they're
first
installed,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
for
us
to
do
this
walkthrough
without
having
any
trees
obscuring
the
way.
But,
of
course
there
is
the
landscaping
that
we
showed
you
the
last
few
times.
E
So
we're
okay
with
it.
The
one
thing
that
the
motion
will
have
is,
basically
you
never
know.
What's:
gonna
you're
gonna
stay
until
it's
built,
so
there's
just
a
little
caveat
in
the
motion
that
basically
says:
if
there's
any
major
or
significant
mechanical
equipments
still
visible
on
that,
they
potentially
will
do
something
to
either
paint
the
roof
or
whatever
I
mean
paint
the
equipment
or
whatever.
So
that's
the
only
caveat
we
have
in
the
motion.
D
I
I
A
I
No
no
I
know
it's
just
that:
I
wouldn't
want
anyone
to
think
that
there
was
something
else
that
that
maybe
would
be
better
if
we,
if
we
can
identify
that,
that
would
be
helpful
if
we
are
going
to
limit
ourselves
to
paint-
and
that's
probably
that's
what
those
are
my
oldest
questions,
otherwise
I,
don't
think
we've
done
about
as
good
as
we
can
do
with
this.
At
this
point,.
C
Yeah
they
do
the
second
one
first.
Is
that
the?
If
you
actually
at
the
end
of
the
video,
the
very
last
few
frames
where
it's
looking
at
the
south
west
corner
I,
understand
that
a
lot
of
that
view
eventually
will
be
pretty
well
screened
by
arbor
vitae
or
pine
or
whatever
plants
you've
got
out
there
and
I
say
eventually,
because
the
first
15
years
they
won't
be,
but
that
view
is
you've,
come
up
the
road
from
the
southwest,
we're
still
looking
very
clearly
at
the
mechanical
units
off
of
the
service
entrance.
C
N
So
mr.
Zod's
comment
is
about
this
view:
correct,
correct,
okay,
right
and
there
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
back
and
forth
between
our
landscape,
architects
and
and
staff
in
terms
of
what
this
is
going
to
be.
I
can
show
you
what
the
eventual
intention
is,
but
I
think
your
your
point.
Mr.
Zod
is
that
that
is
going
to
be
partial
screening
until
those
till
that
landscaping
actually
grows
to
its
full
height
grant
back
here.
Yeah,
that's
right!.
N
C
G
C
N
C
Not
that
interested
just
because
as
we're
both
recognizing
that's
ten
years
down
the
road
when
it
really
looks
like
that,
actually
looking
at
the
tree
view,
ssin
tree
view,
if
I'm
judging
the
deciduous
trees
correctly,
either
the
the
walk
through
the
height
of
the
viewer
was
said.
It
one
foot
off
the
ground
or
those
are
some
of
the
biggest
trees
I've
ever
seen
in
my
life,
because
the
canopy
was
up
20
feet
in
the
air.
So
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
accuracy
on
that.
C
N
C
N
So
my
recollection
I
can
go
to
the
planting
plan
here,
but
my
recollection
is
that
we've
got
kind
of
this
wall
of
low
loser
ink
Barry,
another
non
deciduous
Holly
based,
and
that
these
you
know
we're
trying
to
get
the
larger
street
trees
here
as
well.
But
it's
a
combination
of
things
that
will
things
that
will
come
to
their
full
screening
capacity
early
as
well
as
sort
of
fill
in
later.
C
N
C
C
N
C
E
C
C
C
And
that's
all
I've
got
I
did
have
one
question:
I
just
noticed
that
the
I
know
this
we're
not
covering
signage
with
this,
but
on
your
presentation
on
the
drive
on
the
fly
through
it
had
the
one
sign
by
the
main
entrance
said:
90
degrees
vertically.
That
just
said,
Cutler
has
that
been
approved.
Was
that
something
you
just
kind
of
threw
in
as
an
example
or
something
I
don't
want
to.
D
N
C
Okay,
I
enjoyed
the
cleverness
of
the
graphics
and
whatnot
and
considering
all
of
our
other
schools,
I
can't.
This
is
a
little
off
the
wall.
For
me,
if
I
have
a
business,
I'd
love
to
see
it
done
this
way,
but
for
a
school
it
just
has
to
say
Cutler
Elementary
School
in
plain
block
letters
facing
the
right
way.
You've
got
wonderful
wall
plains
to
put
it
on
and
just
squeeze
it
onto
the
side
of
the
corner.
That
way,
I
can't
see.
C
I
get
that
that's
just
as
coupler
and
we
don't
just
say
fetch
and
we
don't
just
say
northeast.
We
every
one
of
our
schools
has
a
pattern
and
that's
one
language
thing
that
you
should
keep
in
mind.
A
street
sign
should
have
to
be
similar.
The
sign
of
the
building
should
be
kind
of
similar,
not
not
this
cute,
so
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
that.
M
M
K
The
top
of
the
roof,
both
roofs-
you
know
the
harsh
and
my
comments
last
time,
but
this
seems
should
be
much
better
Hal
pointing
out
the
service
area
problems.
I
do
think
that
needs
to
be
screened
as
well,
so
I
guess
I'm,
basically
agreeing
with
with
previous
comments.
I,
don't
have
anything
terribly
original.
That's
it.
D
H
E
J
J
L
The
service
entrance
I
believe
what
we
stated
last
time
is
the
preference
for
all
the
views
other
than
the
service
entrance,
so
that
wasn't
high
on
our
list
and
it
still
isn't
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
I
think
that
part
of
it
no
growing
up
in
a
you
know,
industrial
fab
world.
You
know:
that's,
we
had
everything
on
the
outside
that
doesn't
bother
me
I.
Think,
as
I
said,
that's
that's
what
you
have
in
in
that
part
of
the
school.
It's
not
your
your
educational
side,
so
I
think
it
actually
looks.
L
Good
I
have
no
problems
with
that
at
all,
and
but
I
agree
strongly
with
it.
What
everyone
else
said
in
the
peers
that
Rick
is
gonna,
do
it
is
that
we
need
kind
of
the
same
naming
convention
whether
it's
you
know
the
graphics
or
whatever,
but
that
really
does
need
consistency
across
the
school.
So
as
Rick
goes
to
design
that
as
how
it
indicated,
I'd
love
to
see
Cutler
elementary
school
be
up
there.
That's
it.
A
C
I
just
want
to
mention
that
yeah
I
understand
the
placeholder,
but
even
the
placeholder
since
it's
on
there
and
nothing
says
this
is
a
placeholder.
We
need
to
just
Pat
that,
on
the
record
as
saying
we
are
not
approving
this,
not
even
not
even
to
location
necessarily
of
it,
so
there's
zero
things
about
that
that
are
okay
with
this
we'll
just
now,
you
have
to
make
sure
that's
on
the
record.
M
If
I'm
a
hell
that
we
can
go
ahead,
take
that
off.
If
you'd
like,
for
example,
on
the
middle
school,
we
actually
had
to
come
back
to
the
Planning
Commission.
To
get
approval
for
the
sign,
so
I
would
think
we
would
need
to
follow
the
same
process.
But
that's,
of
course,
we'll
have
to
work
that
out
with
Deb
and
I
am.
C
Was
just
finishing
Barbara
just
reckon
mentioned
rightfully
so
that
we
might
have
would
have
to
come
back
and
and
approve
the
signage,
but
then
it
should
have
been
there
and
just
mean
it.
Should've
been
just
a
blank
thing,
in
which
case
I
probably
would
have
just
said,
and
we
don't
want
the
sign
there
in
the
vertical
way,
so
there's
either
removing
it
or
noting
it
in
some
way
clearly
that
this
sign
is
not
approved.
I
think
that
needs
to
happen.
C
M
If
I
can
respond,
Barbara,
yes,
there
will
be.
The
buildings
are
similar.
The
signs
we
expect
to
be
similar.
We
would
probably
have
to
do
the
same
thing
with
the
town,
a
city
planner.
What's
they
have
a
new
city
planner,
but
we
would
look
at
the
same
the
thing,
because
if
you
looked
at
the
last
project
series,
if
you
will
all
the
signs
were
were
similar
across
the
town
as
far
as
the
schools
that
were
constructed
at
that
period,
so
we
would
expect
it
to
be
somewhat
the
same.
I.
I
So
I
just
wanted
to
come
back
because,
but
I
I
believe
that
Kevin
is
correct
and
that
we
weren't
as
concerned
the
last
time
about
the
loading
dock,
but
I
also
do
appreciate
house
confirmed
as
well
and
then
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
all
this
screening
is
incorporated
into
anything
that
happens
at
Westside
as
well,
because
you
have
any
one,
someone
else
go
through
what
we've
gone
through
already
with
this.
That's
all
I.
A
Just
had
a
concern
for
the
drawings
that
were
in
our
package,
we
had
two
copies
of
this.
Drawing
a
one
in
one
of
them
shows
the
label
for
the
barrier
that
goes
in
over
the
entranceway
and
the
other
one
doesn't.
So
if
we
make
a
motion
which
page
are
we
approving,
they
both
have
there's
no
page
number.
A
E
A
A
E
E
A
D
E
N
This
these
are
the
permit
documents
which
Diane
received.
So
the
the
question
I
think
is
what
version
of
this
are
you
approving?
We
were
obligated
to
bubble
the
changes,
because
this
was
a.
This
was
a
change
that
went
to
the
contractor.
It's
so
they've
got
to
understand
we,
if,
if
we
get
just
give
them
a
new
drawing
they
they
want
to
understand.
What's
what's
been,
that's.
N
A
A
E
D
A
E
A
C
Well,
I
think
you
know
where
I'm
standing
on
this
is
that
right
now,
my
feeling
is
that
well,
two
parts
is
that
painting
won't
do
it
so
that
the
the
way
it's
written
right
now
really
won't
do
much
I,
don't
think
we
need
a
four
foot
screen
up
there.
We
need
some
pretty
nominal
thing,
but
I
think
it
needs
something
and
I
understand
the
idea
that
you
look
at
lots
of
other
commercial
buildings
and
from
the
back
service
area.
You
can
see
stuff,
but
this
is
a
school
building.
C
D
D
N
C
C
Right
so
they'll
be
at
least
six
feet
right,
yeah,
maybe
eight
and
they're
drawn
almost
that
big.
So
you
typical
library,
writing
depending
on
the
species.
It's
not
eight
foot
wide,
so
you
know
they're
drawn
at
this
maximum
dense
wall
of
it
and
instead
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
kind
of
slender
little
things
that
said,
he'll
be
looking
at
it
at
an
angle,
so
maybe
I
would
cover
it.
How
about
the
ink
bar
you?
C
C
C
C
H
H
A
A
A
M
To
nine
feet
also,
if,
if
I
may,
this
is
Rick
again,
we
had
a
similar
issue
with
tree
screening
in
the
city
and
obviously
not
trying
to
tell
you
what
to
do,
but
they
made
it
a
technical
item
and
had
us
work
it
out
with
the
planners
a
number
of
additional
screening
trees
that
were
required
in
that
particular
in
a
particular
location.
So
just
the
suggestion
well,.
D
E
D
M
A
All
rooftop
mechanical
equipment
shall
be
screened,
as
provided
for
in
the
narrative
plans
and
videos
made
part
of
the
pzz
410
2020
is
easy.
Its
agenda
and
presentation
any
rooftop
equipment
that
will
sing
still
be
significantly
seen
from
the
main
parking
area
or
Fishtown
Road
after
construction
shall
be
painted
to
match
the
proposed
screening
room
for
building
facade
as
appropriate.
Any
requested
changes
to
the
screening
requirement
shall
be
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
pz
c
prior
to
any
installation.
A
H
B
A
A
A
E
D
A
B
Right
so
this
is
the
former
Pequannock
bridge
volunteer
fire
department.
You
recently
approved
a
site
plan
for
the
new
england
hemp
farm
for
that
property,
and
during
that
application
you
became
aware
that
there
was
a
small
1,300
square
foot
piece
of
property
on
the
southern
end
of
the
of
the
lot
that
historically
had
been
used
by
the
fire
company,
but
no
longer
no
longer
was
part
of
this
lot.
There
was
a
reverter
clause
when
the
town
sold
it
or
gave
it
to
the
fire
company.
B
So
once
the
Burtie
stop
being
used
for
fire
protection,
it
automatically
reverted
to
the
town,
so
the
new
owner
is
appraising
the
property,
as
we
speak
right
now
and
is
asked
the
Town
Council
to
transfer
the
property
to
him
back
to
the
site
plan.
You
may
recall
that
the
town
signed
that
application
with
the
understanding
that
the
applicant
was
going
to
ask
for
the
transfer
of
the
property.
B
A
L
A
L
B
D
B
A
C
K
A
A
Okay,
that's
it
for
no
business
commission
reports
reported
chair.
I
only
had
a
concern
when
I
was
catching
up
with
some
old
homework
and
putting
in
the
the
change
to
the
zoning
regulations.
I
saw
there
was
nothing
on
than
the
indicated,
a
revision
date
or
revision
number
on
any
of
those
pages
which,
in
the
long
run,
is
going
to
be
a
problem.
A
A
If
you
look
at
all
the
other
pages,
they
say
effectively
and
I,
don't
say
they
have
to
be
done
right
away.
We
wait
till
the
next
printing
of
a
change,
because
that
will
it
will
be
obvious.
They
would
be
the
only
ones
that
would
come
through
up
with
nothing
a
lot.
But
after
you
get
a
few
changes,
you're,
not
it's
not
going
to
be
obvious.
What's
well.