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Groton, Connecticut municipal meeting: Planning and Zoning Commission June 14, 2022. Click on the link below to view the agenda.
https://www.agendasuite.org/iip/groton/file/getfile/65682
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B
B
A
So,
if
adopted,
this
moratorium
will
be
in
place
for
12
months
from
the
effective
date
that
you
set
and,
as
you
know,
the
horsley
whitney
group
has
already
been
engaged
to
start
developing
data
center
center
regulations
and
start
talking
to
you
about
your
thoughts
about
what
your
data
center
should
be
allowed
at.
All.
A
A
B
A
A
B
A
My
name
is
stated
june
14th
to
the
planning
commission.
I
am
one
of
the
founders
of
open
space
association
in
1967
now
vice
president,
so
now
not
representing
joseph
through
this
hearing.
Thank
you
for
putting
together
a
moratorium
on
these
huge
data
centers.
We
support
it
totally.
The
main
concern
with
a
giant
project
like
this
is
water.
A
The
runoff
will
do
damage
to
our
reservoir,
our
drinking
water
groton's,
most
valuable
resource,
as
well
as
saltwater
estuaries
that
run
into
long
island,
sound
storm,
water,
runoff
of
the
data
center
roof
and
pavement
or
any
other
giant
facility,
indicates
that
these
developments
were
estimated
to
measure.
14
acres
would
generate
500
and
100
thousand
gallons
of
storm
water
runoff
with
one
inch
of
rain.
According
to
the
save
the
sound
attack
sheet,
which
I'll
give
you
when
it
rains
the
motion
pours
is
the
title.
A
A
Nothing
was
done
particularly
for
the
117
project.
None
of
the
others,
nor
the
public
were
informed
and,
what's
more,
I
stood
there
and
looked
down
at
the
reservoir
where
that
stream
from
the
candlewood
hill
wildlife
management
area
would
have
dumped
into
that
road.
That
would
have
been
run
into
totally
covered
in
that
downs,
patterson
attached,
I
have
when
it
rains
pollution
pours
a
sample
of
the
public
information
meeting
announcement,
an
image
of
new
albany
of
new
albany.
A
Data
center,
the
statement
from
james
kramer,
ph.d.a
repoint
impact
reaches
the
tipping
point
and
to
richard
stevens,
general
manager,
water
division
from
karl,
f,
asimovic,
p
e
dated
november
6,
2003
and
my
conversation
with
him
a
few
months
ago.
He
says
it
still
applies.
I
am
giving
this
to
you.
Thank
you
for
developing
this
plan.
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A
A
In
california,
right
at
your
april,
12th
meeting,
you
had
my
correspondence,
then
so
I'll
just
kind
of
paraphrase
to
save
everybody
time
and
just
so
you
guys
kind
of
know
where
I'm
coming
from,
but
also
my
house
is
directly
across
the
street,
so
I
might
be
biased.
But
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
facts
that
support
the
fact
that
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
bias
and
that
it's
going
to
be
across
our
street
from
my
house.
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A
As
to
what
they
really
are
the
enormous
amount
of
energy
that
they
use
and
this
what
really
scares
me
because
the
developers
they
come
and
talk
to
us,
they
seem
like
they're,
trying
to
be
very
helpful.
They've
got
to
set
it
back,
they're,
going
to
lower
this
lower
this
60-foot
building
they're
going
to
leave
a
buffer.
They
seem
like
they
want
to
do
all
the
things
that.
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C
B
E
E
Also.
I
have
heard
that
in
regards
to
the
god
space
situation
that
there
may
have
been
a
termination
of
that
deal
from
the
landowner's
side,
so
you
may
want
to
look
into
that.
So,
if
there's
any
concern
about
what
moratorium
may
have
on
whatever
what
effect
the
moratorium
may
have
on
that
deal,
legal
concerns.
E
E
It
may
be
an
opportunity
also
to
reconsider
how
policies
and
procedures
work
here,
and
I
would
encourage
you
know,
making
that
an
agenda
item
sometime
in
the
future
to
find
a
way
to
rewrite
regulations
and
policies
so
that
zoning
official
comes
here
and
is
in
regular
communication
with
this
body
since
he's
acting
as
your
agent
in
the
community.
So
that's
pretty
much
all
I
have
so
I
encourage
you
to
take
all
the
time
you
know
and
do
the
moratorium
and
your
research.
Thank
you.
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A
Hi,
my
name
is
genevieve
surf.
I
live
at
6
pearl
street
in
mystic
and
where
to
start
tonight
really
hard,
I
guess
I
could
start
with
the
last
part,
which
is
the
cannabis
part,
I'm
a
child
of
the
60s.
So
of
course
I've
tried
it,
but
I
really,
I
don't
understand
how
the
state
allowed
for
this
to
become
a
commercial
venture
in
our
state.
A
I've
been
thinking,
it's
not
really
good
for
kids,
it's
not
going
to
be
good
for
the
town,
it's
good
for
keeping
people
out
of
jail
if
they've
only
caught
with
a
tiny
amount
of
it,
but
it's
certainly
not.
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
good
for
the
town
to
have
a
commercial
establishment,
but
that's
going
to
be
your
issue.
A
My
second
issue,
of
course,
is
the
data
centers
and
I've
thought
about
this
long
and
hard,
and
I
know
that
we
have
a
lot
of
data
centers
in
town
already
small
ones.
I
have
one
in
my
own
house.
I
must
have
at
least
six
computers,
but
I
don't
have
any
diesel
generators
to
run
them
when
when,
when
we're
at
peak
electricity,
this
is
what
I
found.
A
Diesel
fumes
have
been
shown
to
be
some
of
the
most
toxic
in
all
of
our
fossil
fuels
and
especially
for
children,
which
is
why
I
always
wondered
why
we're
still
running
our
school
buses
on
diesel
diesel
is
really
unhealthy,
and
so
I
thought
to
myself
at
the
very
least.
If
we're
going
to
have
data
centers,
we
should
have
small
ones,
obviously,
and
we
should
have
some
that
don't
require
and
don't
use
diesel
generators
unless
there's
a
complete
electricity
outage
in
the
area.
A
At
no
point
should
diesel
generators
be
used
just
to
save
electricity
for
these
giant
companies,
and
you
are
aware,
of
course,
if
you
haven't
read
the
article
yet
that
these
people
who
come
and
sell
us
these
plans,
like
mr
quinn
and
a
company,
are
basically
front
for
these
huge
data,
utilizing
companies
like
amazon
and
google
and
microsoft,
and
not
only
and
wall
street.
That
only
knows
how
many
there
are
now
and
they
come
into
town.
A
A
One
of
the
things
that
I
would
have
very
much
like
to
have
seen
is,
as
in
the
case
of
the
data
centers,
where
we
actually
had
a
public
input
session
before
you
before
it
all
came
to
you
with
the
consultants
and
everything
else.
There
was
a
public
input
session.
There
has
not
been
a
public
input
session
for
short-term
rentals
and
we
started
the
discussion.
A
A
A
Schwartz
420
long
hill,
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
the
environmental
issues
just
about
money,
connecticut's,
the
oldest
constitutional
democracy
in
the
world,
since
1639
they've
been
self-governing,
and
because
of
that
we
elected
our
when
we
were
a
colony,
we
elected
our
governor.
We
were
the
only
one
of
the
13
colonies
and
we
immediately
sided
with
the
americans
at
the
start
of
the
revolution
and
in
our
constitution
right
at
the
beginning.
A
At
the
beginning,
article
first
section,
one,
no
man
or
a
set
of
men-
are
entitled
to
exclusive
public
emoluments
and
privileges
from
the
community,
which
is
precisely
what
we
have
here.
That
was
with
with
the
tax
break.
The
statewide
tax
rate
that
clause
was
put
in
our
constitution.
To
prevent
is
nothing
in
this
thing,
but
harford,
that's
what
I
notice
is
a
swamp
and
from
what
I
can
gather.
A
Based
on
our
constitution,
which
hartford
ignores
a
repeatedly
the
count.
The
comments
from
southeastern
connecticut
council
of
governments
that
it
would
not
have
any
negative
repercussions,
which
is
correct,
a
moratorium
would
not
have
any
negative
referee.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we
have
a
very
positive
percussion,
because
these
things
are
huge
and
energy
gobblers
and
to
allow
them
to
come
in
when
there's
a
when
the
grid
is
a
zero
sum
of
fare.
Basically,
and
we
know
that
we
already
have
the
highest
electric
rates
in
the
country.
A
We
know
that
they're
going
to
be
going
up
substantially
because
of
the
cost
of
fuel
which
we
are
experiencing
and
when
offshore
wind
kicks
in
that's
a
very
expensive
generating
method.
So
because
it's
a
zero-sum
affair
and
the
grids
are
already
stretched
to
their
limits.
If
they
come
in
and
eat
up
a
big
part
of
the
energy,
that's
out
there,
it's
a
huge
tax
on
everybody
else.
A
A
He
recommends
that
you
define
the
square
footage
whenever
you
come
out
to
the
square
footage
collectively,
because
otherwise
you're
going
to
get
segmentation
where
they
build
a
unit
right
under
the
limit
and
then
they'll
build
another
unit
and
another
unit,
and
all
that
so
somehow
you're
going
to
have
to
define
what
we
urge
you
to
define
what
collectively
means,
but
the
negative
commonly
he
talks
about.
The
moratorium
would
prohibit
rehabilitation
and
refurbishing
of
apparently
existing
data
centers.
A
I
don't
know
if
this
will
apply
in
the
city
or
not,
but
certainly
eb
and
pfizer
must
have
massive
data
centers
already
already,
and
these
things
are
constantly
under
repair,
they're,
constantly
swapping
out
new
servers
with
better
technology,
they're,
replacing
components
in
existing
service
and,
as
jen
pointed
out
you
it's
going
to
be
tricky
to
define
this,
but
she
has.
She
said
six
computers,
I
counted.
I
think
I've
got
eight,
some
of
which
work,
but
any
computer
really
could
be
defined.
A
Well,
the
people
we
elect
and
pay
up
in
hartford,
don't
care
about
our
constitution.
So
it's
it's
up
to
the
public.
The
public
is
always
the
one
who
enforces
the
public's
will
and
when
they're
not
doing
it
in
hartford,
it's
up
to
us
at
this
level
to
short,
stop
it
and
just
deny
it
on
one
basis
alone:
it's
unconstitutional!
It's
a
clear
violation
of
our
constitution.
C
C
No
recommendations
specifically
just
want
to
stay
for
the
public
record,
really
appreciate
you
guys
taking
the
time
to
develop
a
considered
position
regarding
this
very
complex
industrial
use,
with
impacts
on
neighbors,
community
health,
well-being,
air
water,
wildlife,
energy
and
economics
plan.
The
commission's
judgment
and
taking
the
time
to
die
an
informed
regulatory.
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D
So,
finally,
I
want
to
suggest
that
if
you
find
finalize
the
moratorium,
I
hope
you
do
that
you
invite
a
public
conversation
about
what
to
do.
Rather,
our
our
traditional
system
of
having
the
public
come
before
our
government
bodies
and
speak
without
any
back
and
forth.
It's
not
really
terribly
helpful.
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G
G
Just
re
reiterate
that
my
support
for
just
a
quick
note
that
I
agree
with
paul
mcdougall's
message
and
the
conservation
organization's
messages
and
I've
submitted
my
own
comments
regarding
data
centers
previously,
but
I
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
and
taking
the
steps
to
put
a
moratorium
and
effectually
protecting
the
town,
the
town
of
groton,
that's
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
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B
A
A
I'd
like
to
see
our
generation
as
being
a
separate
thing,
since
the
case
of
the
one
that
failed,
it
was
going
to
have
our
generator
exceeding
the
sub
base's
power
generation.
So
this
is
why
that
was
in
there
to
me
sounds
like
a
separate
thing,
but
it
doesn't
matter.
It's
almost
reporting
the
brakes
on
it
within
this.
B
B
A
F
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A
A
B
A
B
A
B
C
E
A
With
that,
I
think,
though,
I'm
going
to
wait
to
hear
from
kevin
whether
5000
feet
is
good,
but
we'll
we'll
see
about
that.
So
what
does
multiple
can
so
because
this
is
multiple
contiguous
locations,
so
does
that
mean
physical
land,
or
does
it
mean
that
these
like?
Could
you
take
these
things
and
link
them
virtually
or
by
wire,
or
something
like
that?
What
does
that
mean
multiple
contiguous
locations
locations?
I
would
not
be
virtual.
A
What's
the
classification
or
body
of
one,
what
are
those
words?
Classification,
a
business
class,
particular
business
classification?
It's
the
type
of
business.
The
use
just
seems
like
a
lot
of
language
that
is
probably
just
makes
it.
You
know
I
would
prefer
always
definitions
to
be
as
concise
as
they
could
be,
but.
A
A
B
A
A
A
A
But
that's
the
problem.
That
was
what
we
passed
in
april
right,
say:
that's
what
the
moratorium
would
state
okay,
but
my
problem
is:
is
a
5
000,
because
that
brings
up
all
kinds
of
different
issues
to
me.
You
know
in
the
fact
the
way.
Well,
if
it's
like
this
and
it
is
or
it
isn't
in
or
out
of
the
5
000,
it's
it's
very
complicated
and
I
would
have
hoped
going
forward
that
the
ceo
would
have
been
in
here
beforehand
before
tonight
to
discuss
what
he
was
thinking
about.
A
In
fact,
we
might
have
some
problems
if
we
went
forward
with
what
we
were
contemplating
and
saying,
I'm
thinking
about
five
thousand
and
being
a
cut
up,
we
say
wow.
I
was
very
interested
now
why
and
we
could
ask
questions.
We
could
get
more
information
all
that
sort
of
thing.
You
know
if
this
ceo
zoning
enforcement
officer,
as
our
agent
is
really.
A
A
A
A
A
D
A
So
if
you
look
at
I'll
just
say
the
largest
hyper-scale
data
center,
I've
been
in
it's
1.1
million
square
feet
and
if
you
take
a
look
at
a
football
field
at,
I
don't
know
the
full
length
of
it,
including
the
110
yards
on
each
side.
It's
57
600
square
feet
of
my
algorithms
right.
So
if
you
really
look
at
that,
it's
20
football
fields,
long,
those
are
hyper
scale
scores.
A
A
They
used
to
call
them
t-packs
right
and
what
a
t-pack
is
is
that
they
bring
in
trailers
right
loaded
with
xeon
processors
and
servers
and
storage
and
everything
else,
and
they
plug
them
in
on
the
side
of
their
1.1
million,
they
plow
what
we
call
tpacks
or
mobile
data
centers,
and
they
take
them
and
they
put
them
into
a
piece
of
electric
and
they
immediately
get.
You
know
an
additional
couple,
terabits
of
processing
power
and
I
believe,
a
trailer
which
I
don't
know
because
I
didn't
look
it
up.
A
It's
probably
less
than
5
000
square
feet.
So
the
question
is:
if
someone
has
a
piece
of
land
and
they
brought
in
20
what
we
call
t-packs
or
mobile
data
centers,
does
this
moratorium
covered
that
that's?
My
only
question?
Is
there
they
look
like
a
tractor
trailer
they're,
less
than
5
000
square
feet
and
they
they
sit
on
the
side.
If
you
look
at
some
of
the
big
hyperscale
you'll
have
20
of
these
things
lined
up.
A
A
A
So
if
we
put
if
the
limit
is
one,
if
that's
what
we
said,
the
limit
is
one
and
it's
fine,
I
mean
a
coast
guard
or
something
can
come
in
with
a
regional,
node
and
say:
listen.
I
need
I
have
a
mobile
data
center.
I
need
to
put
that
in
that's
okay
for
the
moment
right,
we
all
agree,
but
my
only
point
is:
does
this
moratorium
cover
someone
who
brings
in
10
separate
tea
packs.
A
C
A
A
A
F
A
C
A
B
A
B
A
B
A
F
B
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Yes,
so
what
what
are
you
proposing
to
remove
the
location
of
the
5000
square
feet
so
in
the
application?
One
of
the
changes
to
the
text
is
to
add
a
new
section,
11
moratorium
and
to
add
11.1,
which
is
the
temporary
moratorium
on
data
centers.
So
under
that
section
11.1
uses,
it
says
this
moratorium
is.
F
B
A
B
A
You
do
not
need
to
add
that
to
motion.
This
won't
have
decided
not
to
do
that
right
now,
okay,
but
how
is
this
going
to
help?
The
data
centers
of
our
under
5,
000
or
older
unconscious
was
saying
we're
not
going
to
have
a
moratorium
on
those
understand,
but
all
of
a
sudden
they're,
not
its
own
communication
facility,
and
if
you
come
in-
and
you
want
to
put
one
in
well
that
says:
there's
still
a
data
center
yeah.
G
B
A
A
E
A
E
A
A
A
A
B
A
A
A
B
A
B
A
E
B
A
So
my
family
attended,
the
blue
heritage,
trail
kickoff.
It
was
a
week
ago
when
the
last
wednesday
and
then
it
it's
a
blue
heritage.
Trail
is
a
plan,
that's
being
implemented
by
the
connecticut
parks,
commission,
dep,
connecticut
sea,
grant
the
thames
river
heritage
park
and
yukon
neighboring
point,
and
it's
going
to
they're
putting
up
signs
right
now
at
bluff.
A
Point
fort
griswold,
sub
base
and
avery
point
which
are
going
to
start
like
making
walking,
driving
and
boat
tours
kind
of
like
not
not
doing
those
things
but
giving
people
it's
going
to
be
online
like
if
you
wanted,
they
had
one
that
they
were
trying
to
do
in
the
pocahontas
cove,
where
you
could
go
online
and
then
it's
all
based
on
maritime
heritage
for
connecticut.
So
it's
a
big
focus
in
groton,
so
it
seemed
like
it
was
pretty
good.
A
There
was
a
thing
in
the
paper
this
morning.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
saw
it,
but
that
anybody's
interested.
If
you
see
a
sign
down
at
what
point-
and
then
I
had
this
too-
which
I
thought
was
interesting.
This
was
back
in
december
sitting
on
my
desk
and
maybe
because
we
had
that
conversation
about
affordable
housing.
A
This
article
is
about
princeton
new
jersey
and
they
have
implemented
accessory
housing
and
they're,
actually
allowing
them
to
be
like
condominiums.
So
you
can
sell
them.
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
you
know,
princeton
new
jersey
is
like
super
expensive.
So
this
is
how
they're
dealing
with
it
in
one
way,
but
it's
just
it
was
interesting.
A
You
can.
You
can
build
an
accessory
building.
I
mean
there's
a
picture
of
one
right
there
yeah,
so
you
can
build
an
accessory,
don't
move,
but
then
it's
sold
as
a
condominium.
Oh
okay,
you
can
create
a
separate
owner,
you
know,
or
you
could
rent
it
suppose.
When
you
go
one
or
more,
it
looks
like
they
have
one
here
and
this
picture.
You
know
I
mean
if
people
want
to
look
at
the
article
you're
welcome
to
have
been
sitting
on
my
desk
since
december.
I
should
have
brought
it
in
when
we
had.