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From YouTube: Harmony Community Call - Michael Otis, Ethereum vs Harmony Developer Experience - July 2, 2020
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A
Alright
guys
welcome
again
to
another
harmony
community
call.
Thank
you
guys,
all
for
being
on
time.
Today's
guest
is
someone
that
many
of
you
probably
already
familiar
with
his
name
is
Michael
Dorris
and
he's
been
very
present
and
very
active,
especially
within
the
developer
community.
On
harmony,
it's
been
one
of
the
early
adopters
of
building
decentralized
applications
on
the
harmony
blockchain.
So,
specifically
his
project
right
now
is
a
website
called
ripio.
That's
gonna
feature
when
it's
complete
a
sort
of
assortment
of
different
kinds
of
D
apps.
A
One
of
them
is
an
HRC
20
token
creator,
among
others,
and
I
just
really
have
enjoyed
getting
to
know.
Michael
he's
got
a
lot
of
experience
previously.
Building
on
etherium
on
the
etherium,
blockchain
he's
actually
a
developer
by
trade,
and
he
he
works
two
separate
jobs
on
top
of
the
work
that
he's
doing
at
harmony.
A
So
you
know,
needless
to
say,
he's
a
powerhouse
when
it
comes
to
the
work
that
he
does
and
the
real
topic
of
today's
call
is
going
to
be
about
basically
what
the
developer
experience
on
harmony
is
like
as
compared
to
aetherium
and
what
what
our
strengths
are.
As
a
platform,
but
also
maybe
you
know
hinting
or
going
towards
what
is
it
that
harmony
needs
to
add
to
round
out
and
make
ourselves
even
more
competitive
and
I
think
that
Michael
is
really
someone
with
deep
experience
on
both
chains?
Who
can
give
us
that
perspective?
A
So
why
don't
we
start
Michael?
Why
don't
you
start
by
introducing
yourself
how
you
you
know
your
background
as
a
developer
and
then
how
you
got
into
blockchain
and
aetherium
and
then
perhaps
talk
a
bit
about
then
how
you
found
harmony
and
then
we
can
start
digging
deeper.
But
let's
get
a
big
background
picture
first
sure.
B
So
I
say
I
graduated
college
and
for
14
management
information
systems
went
the
a
contracting
firm
and
worked
small
business.
So
I
have
a
lot
of
infrastructure,
server,
building
background
as
well
deployments.
Vps
so
and
then
I
got
a
place
on
this
contract
at
a
company
fortune,
500
company
I
won't
Doc's
my
company
right
now
doing
a
global
development
operations.
B
So
what
that
a
incorporates
is
software
and
infrastructure
a
lot
automation,
so
the
company
has
approximately
50,000
users
so
building
and
developing
systems
around
automating
certain
HR
processes,
I
mean
there's
just
a
lot
of
different
aspects
to
that,
and
then
Identity
Management
is
another
big
thing
that
I
do
for
them,
so
that
that's
kind
of
my
background.
My
development
background
comes
a
lot
from
back.
B
B
So
after
the
I
went
from
doing
that,
I
had
to
tell
my
mining
rigs
because
I
was
getting
married
to
mean
money,
so
mining
went
out
the
door
and
then
I
started
developing,
which
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
a
seat
behind
it.
But
I
was
a
developer
with
Bighorn
private
for
about
a
year,
I
developed
their
ore
mining
pool.
B
So
when
they,
when
they
went
from
zoo
class
before
in
private,
they
had
a
people,
wouldn't
mine
and
donate
the
classic,
so
they
had
money
so
I
developed
that
donation,
mining
pool
and
then
also
their
development,
mining
pool
and
I
did
a
lot
of
I
supplemented
some
of
their
blockchain
development,
but
other
than
that
it
was
mostly
around
developing.
This
was
called
Z.
Naam
is
what
the
technology
behind
the
mining
pool
is
called
so
customizing
the
web
interface.
On
top
of
that
and
doing
some
cool
things
like
block
reward.
B
So
if
you
view
the
block,
if
you
found
the
block,
you
would
get
an
extra
reward
so
having
to
rewrite
the
code
for
Z
Nam
to
do
that
and
that's
kind
of
how
I
got
into
a
lot
of
the
JavaScript
based
development
as
well.
It
was
so
then
I
started
learning
more
about
react
and
bjs
and
all
the
different
frameworks
and
getting
into
that
which
actually
goes
hand
in
hand
with
D
app
development
so,
and
that
kind
of
brings
me
to
my
first
D
app-
was
a
fork
of
something
that
I
found
on
github.
I.
B
That's
what
I
forked
off
of
0x
drop
was
the
one
that
I
created
and
made
some
modifications
to,
but
essentially
does
the
same
thing.
It
sits
there
as
passive
income
and
people
use
it
to
airdrop
tokens
to
people.
I
mean
you
do
a
you,
do
a
sale
or
you
need
to
get
tokens
to
a
lot
of
people
all
at
once.
All
you
do
is
drop
in
a
bunch
addresses
and
how
much
you
want
to
send
to
them
and
that's
what
it
does.
B
That
kind
of
led
me
down
path
of
creating
more
D
EPS
on
ethereum
and
that's
kind
of
when
harmony
hit.
The
space
I
was
very
intrigued
in
harmony
right
off
the
bat,
because
I
was
developing
my
first,
my
own
D
apps.
At
the
time
one
was
called
D
fight,
didn't
really
take
off.
I
didn't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
mark
hit
my
haps.
So
essentially
it
was
just.
B
It
was
a
place
where
you
could
so
we
had
an
API
had
an
API
and
you
create
an
event,
and
you
put
in
like
a
sports
ID
and
you
go
to
this
website
and
put
it
in
a
sports
idea
populate
all
the
images
and
everything
for
you,
no
Vikings
Burgas
versus
Packers
and
gave
you
the
time
and
we
parse
out
all
that
information
and
create
an
event
on
the
blockchain
for
people
to
bed
into
and
then
in
the
contract.
There
were
a
lot
of
safeguards
making
people
not
act
maliciously.
B
We
need
people
to
so
I
guess
to
go
back.
My
philosophy
on
my
apps
is
to
use
as
little
back-end
infrastructure
as
possible.
No
databases,
no
nothing.
The
best
way
to
do
that
is
to
incorporate
a
smart
contract
to
handle
all
the
little
nuances,
store
the
data
and
make
people
act
responsibly
and
give
them
incentive
to
do
so
kind
of
like
a
blockchain
to
the
miners.
So
when
you
go
to
the
site,
you
create
an
event.
It's
your
responsibility
to
close
the
event.
If
you
don't
close
the
event,
then
you'll
you'll
get
dinged.
B
If
you-
and
you
know,
as
that
goes,
there
are
incentives
and
disincentives
to
do
certain
things
throughout
the
whole
process
and
then
at
the
end
you
know
it
pays
everybody
out
depending
on
which
side
you
chose
to
win
so
not
to
get
too
convoluted
and
into
that.
But
that's
that
was
kind
of
my
very
very
first
one,
another
DF
that
I
started
developing.
It's
called
D
patreon,
so
it's
obviously
a
decentralized
patreon
to
allow
people
to
tip
whoever
they
want.
B
You
know
and
a
lot
of
these
contracts
I
actually
developed
all
the
way
up
until
fruition
and
then
realized
when
I
started,
implementing
them
that
they
were
too
large,
too
too
complex
to
handle
on
aetherium.
So
when
I
put
them
on
the
testament,
you
don't
really
see
the
gas
prices
and
the
limits
and
things
like
that
one,
especially
when
aetherium
gets
bogged
down
like
crazy.
We
just
saw
like
massive
gas
fees
through
the
roof.
My
contracts
would
have
cost
you
like.
If
you
want
to
enter
one
of
those
sporting
events
or
pay.
B
Somebody
on
through
that
smart
go
smart
contracts
that
are
completely
decentralized.
You
were
probably
going
to
pay
like
fifteen
twenty
dollars,
because
smart
contracts
are
large
and
they
have
a
lot
of
modifications
going
on
in
the
background
to
the
contract
and
stuffs,
because
they're
completely
decentralized.
B
Well,
that's
why
you
see
I
Dax
use
hybrid
models,
things
like
that
too.
You
know
obviously
for
speed,
but
also
for
cost,
and
so
you
know
when
harm
easement
went,
live
and-
and
you
know
everything
started
to
roll
really
quickly.
I
found
it,
you
know,
I
was
I
was
but
I've
been
developing
the
apps
you
know,
and
so
that
was
just
the
catalyst
that
get
me
to
just
switch
over
and
start
putting
things
in
harmony,
because
it's
so
cheap.
B
It's
quick
and
it
kind
of
handles
all
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
do
from
a
complete
decentralized
standpoint.
Instead
of
having
to
stand
up
server
bruise
on
the
back
end,
save
people's
information
I
don't
want
to
do
anything
I,
don't
you
know,
that's
kind
of
a
whole
point
of
watching
is
to
an
anemone.
B
B
People
would
tip
you
based
on
you
and
the
ways
to
pay
used
to
authenticate
that
you
are
the
channel
that
people
paid
into,
and
so
you
click
on
a
button
that
says
authenticate,
and
so
we
do
need
a
back-end
service
to
do
that.
Indications.
Things
like
that,
but
we'll
never
store
any
information
about
you.
It
would
really
just
be
like
that.
Just
authentication
to
an
external
service
I
think
would
really
don't
looking
that
kind
of
my
mind
what
we
would
have
running
I
say
we
me
I,
guess
running
so
awesome.
A
More
of
the
background.
I
really
enjoyed
this
tweet
that
you
sent
out
a
couple
days
ago.
You
were
replying
to
Chow,
Wang
who's,
some
I
think
he's
a
sort
of
well
known
investor,
and
he
had
basically
said
that
you
know
maybe
a
couple
weeks
ago
he
had
said
hey,
you
know
what
every
eath
killer
is
just
trying
to
copy
what
has
worked
so
far
in
aetherium.
You
know
what
makes
them
think
they
can
overcome
a
theorems
network
effect.
A
You
know,
which
is
actually
a
very
calm,
a
very
common
challenge
that
people
posed
to
platforms
like
harmony
and
then
he
replied
to
himself
saying
I've
changed
my
mind
after
using
a
dozen
defy
platforms
so
long
as
each
2.0
is
not
fully
rolled
out.
There's
an
obvious
opportunity
for
a
highly
scalable
blockchain
to
dethrone
aetherium,
paying
$10
transaction
fees
and
waiting
15
seconds
for
settlement
is
just
bad
user
experience
and
you
replied.
A
The
exact
reason:
I
stopped
building
dabs
on
e
I've,
already
built
several
daffs
on
harmony
protocol
and
it's
hands
down
a
better
experience,
essentially
instant
finality
fees
under
a
penny
and
all
my
solidity
app
support
over
flawlessly
scalable
sharded
blockchain,
so
I,
just
when
I
saw
that
I
was
an
instant
retweet.
It
was
just
amazing
to
hear
that
because
well,
you
know
when
we
designed
harmony.
A
That
was
what
we
had
in
mind
was
to
overcome
the
user
experience
and
developer
experience,
challenges
that
exists
on
aetherium
and
other
protocols,
and
you
know
specifically
low
fees
and
fast
finality,
as
well
as
scalability,
of
course,
so
that
just
really
made
me
feel
great.
You
know
that
there's
validation
of
what
we've
built
is
valuable
and
is
being
used
and
has
solved
a
real
problem
that
you
faced
so
I.
Guess:
I
want
to
dig
a
little
bit
deeper
into
that
problem.
A
B
So
I
mean
I
mean
I
could
talk
to
that
I
mean
that
the
differences
are
pretty
glaring
when
it
comes
to
underlying
blockchain
technology,
I
mean
you
guys
have
done
something
that
ethereum
davis.
Smart
contracts
is
something
that
no
one's
really
done
on
a
grandiose
scale,
and
I
don't
really
think
there's
really
in
another
blockchain
project
that,
as
as
pushed
and
has
done
as
much
in
the
sharded
technology
that
you
have
to
compare.
I
mean
so
so,
when
I
think
of
like
what.
So
I
guess
what's
what's
the
question?
A
Yeah
I
think
the
question
really
is
about
I
just
want
to
dive
into
more
detail
about
what
you
think
are
the
the
major
differences
between
harmony
and
aetherium.
What
and
why
they
matter
from
your
perspective
as
a
developer
and
but
I
mean
it's
pretty
broad,
you
can
take
it
whatever
direction.
You
feel
sure
sure.
B
So
I
guess
I
touched
a
little
bit
on
exactly
what
the
differences
are,
but
the
main
differences,
obviously
I
believe
our
finality
and
fees.
Those
alone
I
believe,
what's
going
to
push
it
over
time.
Obviously,
the
scaling
is
also
hugely
I.
Think
that
you
know
because
Big
Horn
has
those
scaling
issues
now.
Etherium
has
the
scaling
issues
and
you're,
seeing
people
leave
those
platforms
and
all
bitcoins
use
this
more
of
a
store
value,
not
necessarily
transacting,
but
aetherium
was
kind
of
supposed
to
be
the
chain,
the
smart
contracts
everybody
used.
B
You
know
what
their
apps
and
everything,
and
now
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
are
using
it.
You
can
see
the
glaring
issues
with
their
scalability
problems
and
that
because
they've
gotten
so
big,
they
have
a
lot
of
bureaucratic
red
tape
on
getting
and
moving
to
East
2.0
right
now,
Harmony's
kind
of
skipped.
All
of
that,
and
they
have
the
instant
finality.
They
have
low
fees
and
scalability
and
I
think
that
really
brings
harmony
to
the
masses.
B
When
I
think
about
developing
decentralized
applications,
just
I
mean
you
can
take
transferring
wealth
essentially
transferring
to
people
and
putting
that
on
any
chain.
You
need
a
Bitcoin,
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
a
new
one,
Bitcoin
okay,
where
harmony
really
comes
out
over
everybody
else,
is
the
low
fees
I
in
my
personal
opinion,
scalability
right
behind
there
that
allows
people.
Did
you
create
of
things
with
their
decentralized
applications
that
no
other
blockchain
can
do
so
when
I
think
about
development,
developing
my
purely
decentralized
applications
and
having
contracts
that
are
thousands
of
lines
of
code?
B
That's
kind
of
what
I
think
about
is
like
how
much
is
this
going
to
cost,
because
on
aetherium,
when
I
run
my
extremely
complex
functions
inside
my
contracting
costs
of
my
end-users,
a
lot
of
money,
and
that
makes
people
not
want
to
use
my
dad's,
and
that
makes
me
not
really
want
to
develop
at
all,
because
you
know,
if
they're
not
going
to
if
they're
not
going
to
it's
not
going
to
matter.
If
people
don't
use
it
and
that's
why
you
develop
the
to
begin
with,
and
so
when
you
come
over
to
harmony
and
everything.
B
Just
kind
of
works
instant
instantly
finality
I
when
I'm
just
creating
these
these
basic
depths
that
I
did
I
just
launched
on
the
brink.
It's
just
a
random
number
generator
and
the
finality
on
that
is
it's
almost
instantaneous,
I
mean
I
click
go,
and
you
know
one
one.
Second,
two
seconds
and
it's
already
there
that's
going
to
work
wonders
with
my
other
decentralized
applications,
because
it
does
open
kind
of
open
up
the
door
for
faster,
more
fun,
I
guess
applications.
You
can
really
have
a
real
decentralized
exchange.
A
A
As
more
people
come
to
the
platform,
the
transaction
fees
are
gonna,
get
higher
and
higher
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
great
things
about
harmony
is
that,
because
we're
sharded,
if
we
need,
if
our
block
space
becomes
too
scarce
and
the
fees
do
increase,
which
is
possible
because
you
know
there
is
a
fee
market
right,
we
can
actually
add
more
shards
and
therefore
increase
our
block
space
so
that,
hopefully,
in
the
future,
we
can
keep
our
fees
relatively
constant
and
relatively
low
and
I.
A
Think
to
me
that's
one
of
the
big
advantages
of
a
sharded
architecture,
but
that
said,
actually
this
is
kind
of
another
interesting
topic
we
can
talk
about.
Sharda,
art
and
architecture
brings
other
challenges
for
developers
right.
You
know
when
you
deploy.
A
smart
contract
has
to
be
on
a
specific
shard
I'm
wondering
if
you
know
it's
something
that
you've
thought
about
or
you've
encountered
yet
so
far,
building
on
harmony
and
what
your
thoughts
are
about.
Charting
from
the
developers
perspective,
yeah.
B
I
mean
so
it's
something
that
I've
definitely
thought
about
and
I
know
in
the
future.
It's
going
to
possibly
become
a
problem
with
because
of
just
herd
mentality.
All
the
developers
everybody's
going
to
put
everything
on
shard,
zero
I
mean
that's
just
or
the
majority
of
people
and
I
know
that
that
can
cause
problems
with
latency
on
the
blockchain
itself.
For
now
you
know
my
dad's,
they
run
on
chart
zero
they're
deployed
the
contracts
deploy
our
is
there
and
the
dabs
only
look
at
shard
zero
balances
and
we
use
that
Poland
in
the
future.
B
Yeah
you,
just
you
just
say:
hey
this
contracts
on
a
different
charge.
Change
move
some
money
around
or
move
your
move.
Your
tokens
around
to
this
chart-
or
you
know
it's
really
good-
comes
down
to
UX
experience.
I
know
that
it's
not
going
to
be
extremely
easy,
but
the
cost
of
benefit
ratio
of
having
charting
and
expanding
the
ability
to
the
scale.
I
think
the
cost
of
benefit
ratio
of
implementing
some
additional
code
to
to
make
the
UX
a
little
better.
For
your
end
users,
since
pretty
minimal
to
me
so
totally.
A
I
take
my
you
know,
atheria,
my
depositing
compound,
I
get
c
eats
back
and
then
I
want
to
put
it
into
a
different
thing
as
collateral
for
liquidity
or
whatever,
and
so
that
composability,
I
feel
like
there's
more
composability
of
value,
and
so
in
that
sense
there
could
be
a
way
if
we're
able
to
move
value
and
tokens
across
different
shards.
We
can
overcome
that
challenge,
so
kind
of
an
open
question.
A
B
This
is
I,
think
I
brought
this
up
in
the
very
first
new
meeting
that
I
opened.
My
mouth
was
adding
possibly
adding
like
another
layer
between
end
users
in
the
blockchain
and
having
a
standardized
shard.
So
you
would
go,
you
would
I,
don't
know,
necessarily
know
how
it
worked,
but
essentially
you
would.
It
would
act
like
one
shard,
but
it
would,
but
it
would
be
multi
sharted
underneath
so
users
would
just
send
one
to
the
other
and
the
shard
would
be
already
parsed
for
them.
Where.
C
B
Contract
resides
you
can
make
it
into
a
contract.
I,
don't
know.
I
know
there
probably
need
to
be
some
modifications
to
maybe
the
EVM
to
have
a
con
I.
Don't
I
haven't
looked
into
it,
but
contracts
that
can
go
across
shards
or
not.
I
know
that
you
know
from
a
development
standpoint.
You
can
use
JavaScript
on
a
front-end
layer
to
dope
shard
shard,
but
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
can
right
now
from
a
contract
from
solidia
solidity
layer,
but
yeah
yeah.
A
A
It's
it's
not
trivial,
but
I
do
think
it
is
possible
and
and
I
I'm
really
excited
for
the
day
that
that
happens,
I'll
be
really
proud
and,
and
then
what
you
mentioned
about
having
the
user
experience
be
shard,
agnostic,
I,
think,
is
also
possible
in
that
you
perhaps
we
can
come
up
with
some
kind
of
address
scheme
that
automatically
encodes,
which
destination
shard.
That
is
so
when
I
say:
hey.
Send
me
tokens
to
this
address.
A
It's
not
just
a
generic
address
that
exists
on
every
shard
in
part
of
that
address.
Well,
it'll
be
encoded
like
a
shard
one
and
and
so
I
feel
like
there's
ways
in
which
we'll
be
able
to
do
these
things
and
I.
Think
it's
just
a
very
interesting
challenge
that
we
have
to
solve
and
I
think
you
know
no
one.
No
one
else
has
really
tackled
these
before
we're.
B
Getting
problem
the
house
yeah
but
I
mean
you're,
just
you're
in
your
infancy,
I
mean
the
blockchain
harmony
is
in
its
infancy.
There
are
a
lot
of
you.
You
see
the
issues
and
Fermi
and
it's
impressive.
How
quickly
the
community
and
the
team
get
behind
you
and
you
push
and-
and
you
don't
dilly-dally
around
when
there
are
obvious
things
that
need
to
be
identified
and
handled
and
and
remedied.
B
It
was
very
impressive
to
see
how
how
quickly
the
open
staking
took
off
and
then
also
on
top
of
that,
when
I
started
developing
how
easy
it
was
and
very
similar.
It
was
to
developing
on
ethereum
as
well,
so
that
just
opens
up
the
environment
and
the
culture
to
other
aetherium
developers
that
come
toward
their
applications
over
mm-hmm.
B
A
Just
the
last
question,
I
think
we
will
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
questions
I
see
rich
has
his
hand
raised
is
so
we've
we've
talked
a
lot
about
the
benefits
of
billion,
but
I
also
know
that
we're
not
mature.
Yet
we
just
we
just
launched.
You
know
a
couple
months
ago
and
there's
probably
a
lot
of
things
that
still
need
to
be
ironed
out.
So
I
guess
I'm
wondering
if
you
know
from
your
perspective,
what
are
the
main
things
that
Harmon
needs
to
focus
on?
A
B
Well,
I
think,
first
and
foremost,
I
mean
what
I'm
gonna
implement
too
I
mean
in
the
short
term,
is
going
to
be
a
basic
set
of
token
tools
where
you
can
drop
in
your
ABI
I
and
and
put
it
in
the
contract
address
in
it
and
I'll
give
you
some
buttons
kind
of
like
remix.
Similarly,
if
they're
skin
I
mean
where
you
can
interact
with
your
contracts,
you
can
see
balances
things
like
that.
Some
basic
things,
but
that
kind
of
brings
me
to
my
you
know.
B
The
larger
issue
would
be
and
I
think
we've
talked
about
this
before
it's
just
it's
two
things
and
some
two
things
that
if
they're
iam
has
had
because
they've
been
around
for
so
long
ether
scan
will
be
one
of
the
bigger,
probably
the
biggest
front,
facing
most
utilized
tool
inside
of
ethereum
I
mean
it's
not
just
developers
that
use
it
all.
Everybody
that
owns
any
a
theorem
has
been
either
scan
has
used.
It
has
bloated
their
balance.
Their
tokens
I
mean
that's,
probably
the
number
one
from
a
developer
number
one.
B
What
do
you
want
to
say
like
debugging,
that
I
did
when
I
ran
into
issues
was
was
done
in
the
etherium
remix
tool
because
they
are
I
mean
the
washings
are
the
same.
So
I
I
literally
used
their
JavaScript
framework
executed
a
bunch
of
functions.
They
all
worked
right,
I
dropped
it
on
the
Testament
and
it
worked
flawlessly
right
after
that.
I
mean
it
now.
What
I
do
with
my
front-end
development
and
I
screwed?
B
I'm,
a
big
fan
of
open
up
my
browser,
hop
in
remix
and
keep
working
on
some
contracts
that
I
have
built
and
I
love,
just
playing
with
different
functions
and
returns,
and
what
I
can
build
just
quickly
in
a
browser
deploy
it
and-
and
you
know
you
got
your
contract
and
now
you
just
got
to
build
the
front
end.
So
for
me
that
that's
huge
yeah.
A
And
also
I
mean
when
we
were
thinking
about
you
know
at
the
very
beginning
what
we
should
do
in
terms
of
our
what
sort
of
virtual
machine
should
we
have.
We
decided
that
we
would,
basically,
just
you
know,
use
the
evm
as
it
is
it's
especially
because
of
this
reason
that
the
EVM
itself
has
an
ecosystem
built
around
it
now
auditors
and
developers,
and
these
developer
tools
and
by
aligning
ourselves
with
that.
We
can
really
easily
leverage
the
tools
that
have
already
been
built
for
aetherium
and
the
EVM.
A
So
it's
cool
that
you're
already
using
remix
I'm
sure
that
we
can
make
those
tools
slightly
better
specifically
for
harmony
and
I,
and
my
hope
is
that
and
I'm
pretty
sure.
I
do
but
I
don't
know
all
the
technical
details
that
it's
much
simpler
to
do
so
because
of
the
fact
that
we
EVM
compatible
so
now,
I
want
to
open
it
up
for
the
last
15
minutes
to
questions
from
the
audience
rich
has
been,
has
had
his
hand
raised
for
quite
a
while
now
so
rich.
Why
don't
you
go
ahead?
A
A
D
And
hanging
with
us
and
just
really
giving
us
some
valuable,
valuable
information
and
I
definitely
want
to
you
know,
link
up
with
you
later
and
I
feel
like
I'm,
not
trying
to
step
on
toes.
If
you
know
podrick,
say
you're
building
currently,
but
we
could
be
beneficial.
I
think
you
know,
I
can
introduce
you
to
my
team
and
we
could
really
discuss
some
things,
but
I
just
wanted
to
piggyback
on
the
fee.
D
So
I
was
looking
at
a
competitor
and
I
was
minting
from
earth-2
some
USD
and
it
cost
me
$8
to
mint
a
dollar
50,
because
gas
fees
were
so
discussed.
Well,
I
took
a
screenshot
of
it
and
it's
like
I
was
so
disappointed.
It's
so
bad
and
gas
prices
just
hit
like
record
high
recently.
So
that's
like
a
huge
con
and
it's
a
pro
for
us,
because
we
need
to
be
building
gaps
like
that.
You
know
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
D
Phi.
D
C
A
C
A
A
I
assume
it's
possible
to
do
a
one-click
deploy
and
it
should
be
a
priority
for
us
in
terms
of
encouraging
existing
aetherium
developers
or
even
applications
to
try
harmony
out
but
I.
Don't
I
would
have
to
ask
RJ
how
difficult
it
is
and
where
it
is
on
the
technical
roadmap,
but
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
killer
app
Michael.
Do
you
have
any
idea
since
you're,
more
technical
of
how
difficult
that
would
be
or
what
the
without
entail
to
build,
something
that
is
on
one
click
deploy.
B
A
B
B
Obviously,
these
projects
need
to
keep
total
supply
and
circulating
supply
in
check,
so
I
mean
if
we're
talking
about
tokens,
then
you'd
have
to
burn
on
one
chain
and
mint
on
another
or
or
lock
on
one
and
unlock
on
another,
probably
four
to
get
most
of
these
chains
to
to
come
over,
essentially
because
yeah
and
then
you'd
have
to
create
some
sort
of
API
in
between
them
to
make
sure
that
the
numbers
work
out.
That's.
A
A
E
A
B
Yeah,
maybe
from
from
that
standpoint
it
wouldn't
be
just
one
click
I
mean
unless
you're
wanting
to
go
from
one
team
to
another
and
you
provide
you're
executing
your
contract,
calls
on
aetherium
and
you
want
to
burn
all
your
Delvians
and
then
mint
them
I
mean
there's,
there's,
definitely
probably
a
way
to
get
addresses
and
values
and
the
addresses
from
aetherium.
They
poured
over
one-to-one
to
harmony.
So
essentially,
you
could
find
out
who
owns
what
cerium
and
then
and
do
a
one-click
copy
of
all
of
those.
B
But
if
you,
if
you're
talking
about
wanting
to
have
tokens
on
both
chains
and
burning
and
minting
and
doing
all
they
stuff,
yet
you
would
definitely
have
to
have
intermediary
to
keep
track
of
or
I
mean
you
don't
have
to
you.
I
mean
the
blockchain
or
the
projects
themselves
should
be
responsible
enough
to
do
that,
but
I
mean
usually
you
probably
want
to
incorporate
something
so
there's
an
malicious
intent.
A
Good
point
I,
see
crypto
and
now
is
asking
what
about
partnering
with
an
existing
token
subsystem
like
bank
or
Khyber
I'm?
Assuming
you
meet,
you
mean
that,
in
the
context
of
bridging
tokens
from
one
protocol
to
another
right,
yeah,
so
I
think
the
thing
is
that
those
the
way
that
those
tokens
swap
systems
work
is
they
are
owned.
The
only
function
within
one
single
protocol,
they
don't
bridge
between,
let's
say
aetherium
and
harmony
for
example.
So
the
swapping
is
more
like
trading
like
a
Dex,
not
like
a
bridging
from
one
protocol
to
the
other.
F
B
F
B
When
you
create
a
token
yeah,
when
you
create
a
token
and
gives
you
your
ABI
gives
you
your
contract,
so
that's
really
all
you
need
to
do
to
do
your
contract
calls
from
a
decentralized
standpoint.
So
when
we
create
the
token
tools
it's
kind
of
gonna
be
like
I
mean
it's
just
me
so
I'm
trying
to
you
know
it
might
take
a
little
bit
of
time.
But
essentially
you
do
you
drop
in
your
ABI
and
your
contract
address
and
it
would
populate
all
the
functions,
but
you
can't
go
there
in
a
typical.
B
You
know
you
have
transfers,
you
have
your
minting
and
burning
abilities,
pretty
much
everything
that
comes
with
a
or
C
HR
C
20
token
you'd
be
able
to
do
that
from
riff
DL.
We
obviously
we
don't
want
to
just
create
a
token
and
like
well
I,
don't
know
what
to
do
with
this,
so
the
next
step
would
be
to
create
tools
that
go
along
with
that.
So
you
can
interact
with
your
contract,
so
you
can
see
how
many
tokens
you
have
with
the
initial
spy
total
supply.
You
can
transfer
those
tokens.
B
People
eventually
will
have
the
air
dropper
as
well,
so
projects
I
want
to
come
to
harmony.
They
can
create
a
token
or
they
can
create
their
own
token,
but
then
they
can
use
their
dropper.
They
can
do
their
own
fundraising,
get
addresses
and
drop
it
in
their
dropper
with
a
value
for
each
address,
and
it's
going
to
transfer
that
all
out.
So
that's
those
are
kind
of
the
things
that
are
coming
with
the
token
tools
just
try
to
make
it.
B
You
know
from
from
my
standpoint,
I
know:
harmony
has
bigger
plans
for
interact
with
contracts
and
they're
already
doing
that.
I've
seen
some
of
the
new
Explorer
there's
some
videos
around,
but
then
with
the
new
Explorer
handling,
hrc
20
tokens,
and
it
looks
like
they're
on
the
right
path.
But
for
for
for
my
site,
that
is
that's
kind
of
I'm
gonna.
Try
to
build
that
as
soon
as
I
can
so
people
can
start
creating
and
interacting
and
transferring
and
receiving
their
tokens.
B
A
Question
Clayton
and
I'm
excited
I
know
you
have
ideas
of
how
you
want
to.
You
know,
make
an
HRC
20
token,
and
and
all
of
that,
so
it's
so
cool
that
what
Michaels
building
you
know
will
be.
You
probably
would
be
one
of
the
first
users
on
harmony.
So
that's
I,
just
love
that
anyone
else
we
have
a
little
more
than
five
minutes
left
to
ask
Michael
any
questions.
A
I
know
it
says,
for
example,
and
several
other
people
here
on
the
call
are
developers
too.
So,
if
you
guys
have
input,
you
know
feel
free
to
add
them
to
the
chat
or
speak
up.
We
have
about
five
more
minutes.
People
in.
If
no
one
has
anything.
We
can
also
do
a
group
rain
storming
session
of
different
staff
ideas,
for
example.
If
anyone
has
projects
they
have
in
mind,
they
can
go
ahead
and
speak
up.
Even
the
pea
ops
team
has
been
part
of
our
internal
hackathon
where
they've
built
a
few
different
demo
apps.
D
A
G
Yeah,
the
payouts
team
plan
to
send
out
a
typed
form
shortly
asking
users
what
they
would
request.
There's
like
the
most
requested
tools
and
tooling
features
or
harmony.
What
in
India,
what
they'd
like
to
see
coming
forward.
So,
hopefully
we'll
get
some
good
responses
to
that,
and-
and
we
can
see
what
everyone
wants
us
all
to
be
working
on.
So.
B
C
B
Well,
when
harmony
was
launched,
ieo
I
noticed
it.
Then
I
read
the
white
paper
and
I
was
very
interested
in,
but
they
were
still
I
mean
even
more
in
their
infancy.
Then
so
I've
been
following
harmony
ever
since
early
2019
following
their
development,
silently,
you
know
just
watching
it
as
a
progresses,
because
you
know
in
the
blockchain
roll
you
just
kind
of
watch
and
see
who
delivers
and
once
Army
started.
Delivering
I
knew
that's
when
I
should
jump
in
and
area
so.
C
B
Making
the
development
ecosystem
sound
I
had
touched
earlier
about
having
remix
as
a
good
way
to
attract
developers
that
does
a
lot
for
new
development,
any
of
the
decentralized
applications
that
are
on
aetherium.
They
don't
really
need
remix
samandar.
They
can
just
or
thumb
over.
Most
of
those
people
know
how
to
use
truffle
and
deploy
and
do
all
the
stuff
that
most
people
don't
know.
How
to
do.
B
Remix
is
a
good
bridge
between
you
know:
people
they're,
very
technical
know
how,
to
you
know,
develop
and
configuration
files
to
deploy
from
truffle
into
a
testament,
and
things
like
that,
where
is
like
remix,
is
more
of
like
a
plug-and-play.
Here
we
go,
I
can
put
up
my
contract
in
and
then
I
can
click
a
bunch
of
buttons
and
it
returns
me.
Values
and
I
can
quickly
play
with
my
contract
and
I.
Think
that's
good
for
new
developers
that
are
necessarily
I
mean
you
have
development.
That's
already
on
etherium
I.
B
Think
there's
a
lot
of
developers
out
there
that
haven't
really
played
the
solidity
that
makes
it
easy
for
them
to
learn,
try
new
things
out
and
then
deploy
and
build
on
the
blockchain.
So
from
from
that
aspect,
I
think
remix
a
touched
on
earlier,
but
remix
from
a
development
standpoint
is
the
number
one
for
me.
Ether
scan
will
be
like
a
number
one
from
just
an
overall
infrastructure
of
the
blockchain
and
users.
Anybody
that
uses
harmony
where
they
can
see
their
transactions.
They
can
see
their
hrc
20s.
B
They
can
see
pretty
much
everything
that's
occurring
on
the
blockchain
in
real
time
and
I
think
they
could.
You
know
anybody
that
spent
on
ethereum
has
used
the
other
skin
I
think
that's
a
big
and
I
know
they're,
private
and
so
and
it's
a
pretty
large
project
because
I
believe
we
had
talked
about
it
before
Nick
I
believe
it's
on
a
graph
QL.
So
they
save
all
the
blockchain
information
into
a
database
and
that's
how
you
can
quickly.