Hyper Cloud TSC Meetings, 4 Oct 2021

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In this meeting, the hyper core team reviews the roadmap for the next month and shows the hyper cloud dashboard and its feature flag functionality as well as talks through the authentication workflow.

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A

Okay, so today is october 5th, it's hard to believe that it's october 5th there's a lot that's been going on and since our last meeting, um here's kind of a quick um set of goals that we hit in september we've been uh building and designing the application tier for hyper cloud, including graphql.

A

The core business rules are complete and we continue to complete the dashboard functionality. Last two weeks ago we had a product launch um planning session and really reduced the initial release to a developer preview.

A

Maybe tripp can show some of that in a little bit and then the other two bits that we worked on or focused on in september was hyper connect, a client that makes it easy for node.js and dino to connect to the hyper service, whether it's running locally or running in our cloud service and a hyper test and hyper test is really to to validate um uh hyper adapters in an end-to-end test suite.

A

So we've been continuing to refine that and um basically uh have fully tested it on our local service, our nano image and we'll be testing it against the cloud images shortly. So that was september in october, um probably the biggest news is- is we're launching the developer preview of hyper, which is the data service um kind of free tier.

A

So the plan is to launch the data service um and free tier developer tier um october, 18th and 19th that all things open and then um we'll set up a roadmap and launch additional services over time and additional tiers. The next two tiers we have is startup and agency, and then the services that we'll be releasing is uh cash, storage, queues and search.

A

So those will all be coming down the pipe and we we figured. We would incrementally release so that we can help people on board and really create some good quality documentation and some good quality workshops for developers to use the product. um So that's really what I had was kind of to show our current roadmap.

A

You know what we did in september. What we're looking to do in october, also looking to um you know, get some open source contribution with the dynamodb adapter and then at some point, an authen or a scheduler port, and um our goal is to try to on board. I think 50 developers for the developer preview version um and uh that's it for me um trip did you were you able to get something that you could possibly show.

B

Yeah, let me share my screen here.

C

B

A

B

All right, so here's the uh this you know the home splash screen, prompting you to sign in you'll need a github account. It says: welcome to developer preview.

B

Once you've signed in you'll see your applications, we're gonna hide uh some of these features behind feature flags. So, for example, uh you know we're not going to have teams.

B

We're not going to have uh payment we're going to have the data service available to you, but we're going to release the cash search, storage and queue, um as tom said, uh via a road map. So um if I were to refresh this now, um let me go back and shut it down start back up.

D

B

So um you know we should see uh you know we have upgrade true, but let's turn that off the faults right. um So now, if we go back upgrade's, not there anymore, it's hidden behind a feature flag.

B

If I go to look at a an app in hyper, we just see the data tab right, but when tom says release the kraken release the cash service or whatever service we want, we can just turn that on and boom it'll be on right and um able to and able to manage that so right now you know we don't have teams on.

B

So you can't um add a team or see teams um or anything like that, but once we turn that on you know, you get the idea all of a sudden, your ability to add teams and everything else, light up right and um you could switch over to a team and add an application.

B

You can see the application was created and you can pop over the application and and add additional services. If you wanted to later.

B

And um now you have a casey's great cash service, um so you can see it's it's coming along. It's a lot tighter. We moved deleting an application back behind a kind of like a service uh application service settings where we could delete the application if we wanted to. um We haven't implemented that mutation, yet to do that, but we will um so uh we have uh you, know kind of like in-app documentation, links where you can. You know see see.

B

You know, find out more information about what you're, interacting with through the uh through the app. So that's what we have uh right now we well, we also integrated with uh with stripe as well. um So I haven't tested that in a while- and it's not going to be there for uh for the developer preview but I'll turn it on anyway see what happens.

B

Why not um so I could go and um if I wanted to create a new team I'll call it uh super friends.

B

I'll put my subscription level and avatar.

B

Oh lighter instead one more okay, there's, light orange and I'll create a new team, and if the demo gods are with us, it'll pop us over to stripe, so we can uh there's our email we can put in our our information payment information.

B

It's not real casey, so don't steal it and then um subscribe, and then that'll set me up with a paid hyper startup subscription for that team.

B

So now we should be able to see super friends right and we'll be able to add applications accordingly.

B

So that application was, it should have, should have popped up, I'm so sad that application should have two services with the data in cash created for you so pretty easy to use. um So you got to see teams, you can see payments, you got to see apps, creating app instances. It's coming along.

B

They were so nice to put in uh really uh super easy to put in uh greater. We just have them hard coated in here now, but we can move this to whatever storage mechanism we want and then we just expose.

B

We just have like a feature flags, um you know library here and we just have, it is feature enabled curried function and we just build little constants. The boolean values that we export, and so you can just bring those into your app and you say: hey is this enabled then show it. If not, then don't so. For example, if teams are if teams are enabled which they're not.

B

It's pretty funny, it kept it on super teams as the current account, but I go back in and look at it.

B

um You know can't see teams anymore and if I try to create a new team, I forget what that was. I think it was teams new. I think.

B

Oh, I I need to protect that and say since it's off it'll route me back home like if I go and create a new, app or or something like that, it will route me it'll say that feature flag's, not on and route me back home. So.

A

Very cool, that's that's awesome. Work.

B

Yeah, so it was, it was pretty easy, so I would highly recommend uh if, if you're, if um casey, if you're not using them to use feature flex, you could release darkly and, and uh you don't have, and no one can ever use your features. So that's that's what it's all about. At least you can release it and get it out there in a while and then hide it turn it on when you're ready.

E

Yeah I remember reading about it recently and I'm actually wondering I don't think that I uh I was reading about it through something from hyper, but I don't know if one of you maybe shared it in chat. I remember where I found it just randomly um yeah feature flags, look very cool.

B

Yeah, it's um it's pretty straightforward. It was uh surprisingly pretty painless to put them in, so we purposely kept it high level on our flags and not getting too granular, and if we need to separate a ui flag from a back-end flag, we'll just put a is ui flag prop one on this array of flags but um yeah anyway. So that's that's the demo. um It's tightening up from the last time we did it. That's cool.

A

Looks looks good uh tyler thanks for joining. um You have any updates from your and hey.

F

Yeah sorry, I'm late, I was typing up an issue on the on the hyper repo and I lost track of time. uh Whatever happens to me so um as as far as far as demo, um I don't think uh I didn't.

F

I didn't prepare anything to show, um although I have been pretty busy with uh you know, working on hyper cloud, but in particular uh the conversation that you and I had tom on friday uh that auth solution uh that we needed to put in place so that I can sort of describe here to the group just so that everyone's aware of sort of how this is working so.

F

So with hyper, so with hyper cloud, um of course we have our dashboard and for those of you don't know, we're actually dog fooding cloud.hyper to build out the dashboard and everything that runs the dashboard. So how anyone else, who is a user of uh hyper cloud, can have an application inside of cloud.hyper where they store all their data and they have all their hyper services running we're doing the same exact thing for the dashboard.

F

We have our own application uh cloud.hyper and we do some bootstrapping when uh we do some bootstrapping inside of cloud.hyper to spin up the hypercloud application within uh cloud.hyper. So so part of that is a part of cloud.hyper is when a request comes in for a particular app.

F

We do some verification on the bearer token that comes in that request, so the when a user creates an application in hyper cloud, they are issued an initial set of api, an api key pair where they have an id and a secret and they're, given a connection string that they can then use to consume their hyper application and they need to sign tokens or create jwt tokens and attach them to requests with the sub of that token, as the id that's issued to them for their hyper cloud application and then it needs to be signed with the secret, and so what happens is when a request comes into cloud.hyper.

F

Cloud.Hyper looks at that token, and it needs to verify it, and so cloud.hyper itself is when it spins up it also bootstraps a set of services that it's using to store all of the api keys that it provisions for accessing services on cloud.hyper or applications. I should say it will take that token. It'll, look at the sub they'll look at the application, that's in the url, and it will fetch the api key pair from these services that it's spun up.

F

uh If it finds the key, then it will grab the secret it'll verify that the token is signed with that secret and, if all is all as well, then it'll just send it right along to the underlying hyper service, there's a lot of moving parts um I did just.

F

uh I probably could have diagrammed something out, but I did not, but I can I'll probably throw something together just for uh posterity and making sure that we are clear on how everything's working there, but it's all working great now, and so basically, the hyper cloud dashboard does the same thing where anytime, it's serving up data for the hypercloud dashboard. It sends, along its own api, key pair to cloud.hyper cloud that hyperverifies it and then it's just a just a regular old consumer hyper. So.

A

F

Special going on there.

A

That's so awesome good job.

F

uh Yeah sure thanks tom um yeah, it was fun work um and it was really hitting my stride when um I was able to use hyper connect like within cloud.hyper for it to consume its own services, which is pretty nice and everything's working pretty.

C

Nicely, and did you have to uh have a kicker to to kick you out of the inception loop that you found yourself in actually there's a lot.

F

Of your roommate come in and kick.

C

The chair out from out here yeah, there was a lot.

F

Of uh there's a lot of white boarding involved and lots of uh like like charlie, from always sunny where he's standing in front of the board. With all the yarn everywhere and he's just.

C

F

So, but that's all working so as of right now, um uh like all the authentication stuff, is good and ready to go, and so I've just been, as tripp was saying, feature flagging all of the stuff on the dashboard back in um we're using graphql and so feature flagging was pretty straightforward for us. We just uh took those same feature flags that trip created.

F

We imported them into where we stitch our schema and if a certain feature wasn't enabled, then we didn't stitch in the mutation, the type and the resolver for the mutation, and then we had a couple uh types that we omitted from our graph as well, but with that everything's pulled out of the api, um no one can consume it, but because of the way that we've set up uh that that, uh like admin uh graph, that I was showing to you tom and tripp, the the other day, we can omit parts of the schema from the that from the schema that the from the graph the dashboard consumes, while leaving it still open on the admin graph.

F

If we wanted to do that, so could be a way for uh there could be some use cases there.

F

But that's what I've been working on? Sorry, that was a bit uh jumbled, but it's been busy busy busy working yeah. I.

A

I um I hear that we've got off work working and we're not having to add a bazillion infrastructure bits. So I'm super excited.

F

No just uh two more two: more a hyper data service and a hyper cache service still within cloud.hyper.

A

Very nice um and uh benz joined the call benz um started, you know kind of leading our comp community support effort, and uh one of the things is that we've, I think, got almost 50.

A

uh Well, I know we've got 30 people uh to join our slack, but really working on trying to you know open up our our slack and invite people that are interested in the developer, preview and ben is is helping us kind of engage, run some giveaways and um really uh just reach out to the community and help us make make people aware of hyper. So that's pretty awesome ben did I miss anything anything you want to add.

G

uh No, I don't think so. I just we just gotta keep an eye on joe if he keeps winning. Let's go. We're gonna have to have a conversation.

A

That was so funny, um that's kind of that's kind of javascript randomness there, where it's the same person every single time.

A

G

Very different conversation.

F

If there wasn't a duplicate every once in a while, you can guarantee that it's not random.

A

Yeah and so uh that that's going on and um casey and and a couple of guys have um are currently looking at doing the the dynamo db um adapter uh casey uh any updates you'd like to share on that or comments.

E

I'm going to meet with them uh fairly soon to get that finished and squared away. I met with a few students last night and just went over some dynamodb stuff, including included.

A

But yeah so just start on that yeah, yeah and, um what's pretty exciting, is you know, been kind of slow going, but I think we've got a good starter template for uh kind of a contract and a statement of work and um we kind of structured it. As a um you know. Each kind of feature has kind of a a set bounty. It's real, really kind of like a bounty so um but the um the the just as all the features have to be completed in order for everything to clear.

A

So um in that way, we'll let uh multiple folks kind of work on this adapter at the same time and it's just very transparent who who gets what when, um when complete. So um I think that's pretty cool.

A

We'll be doing more of that um in the future. So uh uh well, you know, once casey's team gets rolling, we'll you know work out all the bumps and bruises and then uh look to do more of that in the future. So um so I covered our roadmap.

A

um We're going to be at all things open in october, 18th and 19th we'll have a booth and a virtual booth and um going to be a road trip to raleigh. um So it should be fun and again um tell all your friends to join the community. It's really an easy link. Now it's hyper.io, slash slack that should send them to the invite page. So it's super easy to sign up and uh that's gonna, probably be the best place to you know, find out what's going on with hyper, um so that's all I had.

A

Does anyone have anything else before we close out great work trip great work, tyler uh ben, thank you for helping us with the community, because um I don't think we could focus if we had to do that too. So, thank you very much and um yeah. Thank you. Ben.

G

Yeah glad to do it.

A

I do have one flag coming I'll, have some swag for everybody next couple weeks, so t-shirts and hoodies stickers got stickers.

A

Blurred you can't focus see if still can't focus.

D

A

F

It in front of your, if you put it in front of a face, it'll yeah, I think.

A

A

All right: well, thanks everyone, uh great work and uh we'll see you next month.

E

A

One quick question.

E

Yeah um so you've got free tier and then you jump to startup, which, if I recall, is around 400.. If you guys considered a in between like a developer tier, that's like ten dollars a month. If you're, I imagine like a private developer with a personal site or something.

A

Yeah, it's a great question, so our goal is to make the free tier the developer tier, um that's the initial goal, but if um you know if there is a need for like a single developer to because because essentially what you're getting is, is um business support so five days a week, you know kind of um nine to five support with the uh the paid tier so uh yeah. I think I think uh we're definitely open to that. um But right now we're just trying to keep it kind of simple.

A

You have free our our startup.

A

But we do have the flexibility in the code base to kind of slice it in any way that it makes sense. So um technically it you know, I I should default to tyler before I say something, but I believe technically we would be able to carve out another tier if we needed to.

F

Yeah yeah yeah. We can definitely the flexibility. Is there like to create another tier to have one-offs, for uh particular customers like if a particular customer wanted an additional app or an additional service within an app um that should all be supported by our current business logic, and you know uh making those sorts of exceptions to the sort of sort of the rules, but then adding a whole other tier. That's also possible.

A

Great any other questions.

A

All right well, thank you guys, we'll see you next month.

F

Yeah thanks. Everyone thank y'all.