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Description
A virtual meetup hosted by Hyperledger Seattle on June 16, 2021. The event is focused on a robust conversation around how blockchain technology can transform the public records management process. Riverside County, California (10th-largest county in the U.S.) and Infosys Public Services, in collaboration with Amazon Web Services, created a platform on Amazon Managed Blockchain where various forms of digital records (e.g., land records, births, marriages, and deaths) can be seamlessly verified and authenticated. This results in cost savings, faster turnaround time, and enhanced customer service.
More about the meetup is at: https://www.meetup.com/Hyperledger-Seattle-Chapter/events/278417727/
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A
A
It's
yes,
it's
now
reached
the
two
minutes,
past
nine
and
let's
get
started.
Thank
you
everyone
this
morning
to
join
this
meetup,
so
you
may
be
from
seattle
or
from
san
francisco
and
good
morning
and
from
the
world.
So
today
we
are
honored
to
have
speakers
ken
happy,
shaq
and
maggie
to
talk
about
real
life,
implementation
of
hyperledger
hope
everyone
enjoy
the
content
and
today
so
now,
heading
over
to
abstract
for
starting
the
flow.
B
C
C
C
A
D
D
However,
my
background
is
always
in
technology
information
technology,
so
definitely
honored
to
have
this
opportunity
to
really
explore
some
of
the
use
cases
that
we
have
kind
of
put
together
approval
concept
with
our
partners.
So
definitely
look
forward
to
sharing.
All
of
that
there
you
go
thanks.
Maggie.
C
Awesome
and
I'm
maggie
shu.
I
lead
worldwide
business
development
for
amazon's
blockchain
product
amazon
managed
blockchain.
I
was
previously
at
an
ethereum
startup
called
airswap
that
was
acquired
by
consensus
and
prior
to
that
I
was
chief
of
staff
to
tony
shea,
the
former
ceo
of
zappos
I'll,
pass
it
to
abhishek
for
an
intro.
B
C
C
B
C
A
C
C
So
what
is
amazon
manage
blockchain?
We
are
a
fully
managed
service
that
makes
it
easy
to
create
and
join
scalable
blockchain
networks
using
popular
open
source
frameworks.
So
a
few
of
the
key
benefits
of
amazon
manage
blockchain.
It's
a
fully
managed
service,
and
I
think
this
is
really
the
most
important
so
you're
able
to
create
networks
in
a
matter
of
minutes
rather
than
hours
or
days.
The
next
one
is
open
source
variety,
so
we
currently
support
hyperledger
fabric
and
public
ethereum.
C
The
third
is
decentralization,
so
we've
added
governance
features
that
make
it
easy
to
do
things
like
add
and
remove
members.
The
fourth
is
that
it's
reliable
and
scalable,
so
we've
enhanced
the
open
source
service
to
allow
for
some
additional
features,
such
as
the
the
ordering
service
and
different
components
there.
C
This
is
just
a
quick
flow
of
how
you
would
create
a
hyperledger
fabric
network
on
amazon
manage
blockchain.
As
you
can
see,
it's
a
very
few
set
of
steps,
so
you
can
very
quickly
get
from
your
network
creation
to
inviting
other
members
and
really
working
on
your
business
use
case.
We
like
to
say
that
we
take
care
of
the
heavy
lifting
around
the
infrastructure,
so
you
can
quickly
solve
your
business
problems
and
amazon
managed.
Blockchain
is
just
one
part
of
blockchain
at
aws.
C
We
also
have
amazon
qldb,
which
is
more
of
a
centralized
database
that
allows
for
verifiability
and
auditability.
We
have
over
90
marketplace
offerings
on
our
marketplace.
We
work
with
a
number
of
public
and
private
protocols
and
we
also
have
a
number
of
consulting
and
technology
partners.
So
you
know
if
there's
blockchain,
we
probably
have
some
sort
of
coverage
at
aws,
whether
with
our
native
services
or
our
partner
team,
and
so
just
sharing
how
this
project
came
about.
C
We
were
approached
by
riverside
one
of
our
customers
and
they
had
an
idea
for
a
blockchain
based
digital
records
management
effort.
We
connected
them
with
infosys
one
of
our
partners,
who
has
a
lot
of
expertise
in
this
area,
so
I
will
now
pass
it
to
cannes
from
riverside
to
share
more
about
their
challenge.
D
Great,
thank
you
maggie.
So
what
I
want
to
start
with
is
definitely
kind
of
a
share
a
little
bit
of
our
business,
because
you
know
try
to
leverage
technology
to
to
improve
what
we
do.
We
first
have
to
really
understand
the
problem.
So
what
I
have
in
front
of
me,
the
slides
in
front
of
you,
is
actually
one
of
the
the
first
use
case
that
we
presented
to
our
partners.
D
As
you
can
see,
I
literally
just
put
down
the
the
health
and
safety
code
that
we're
pretty
much
in
in
california
as
a
county
government
county
club
recorder,
we're
kind
of
governed
and
mandated
to
fulfill
and
execute
the
code.
So
I
kind
of
took
the
abstract
of
the
code
in
relation
to
our
one
of
our
division
that
handles
high
volume
of
public
services
and
that
service
is
actually
specific
to
our
citizens,
making
requests
for
their
vital
records.
So
what
constitutes
a
vital
record
is
pretty
much
marriage
certificate,
your
death
or
birth.
D
As
you
can
imagine,
those
are
very
important
documents
in
our
citizens
life.
So
sometimes
they
will
need
to
make
those
requests
and
get
an
official
copy
certified
copy
to
prove
to
whatever
third
party
or
business
that
they
need
to
demonstrate
again
using
those
those
critical
records.
So
I
presented
the
verbiage
and
kind
of
the
abstract.
Here
is
probably
the
important
part.
As
you
can
read
through
the
code,
it
is
required
us
to
use
a
very
specific
type
of
paper.
D
D
All
of
these
are
written
decades
of
decades
ago
before
you
know
the
availability
of
all
this
capabilities
to
technology
over
the
last
decade,
but
yet
we
are
still
literally
governed
by
this
requirement,
so
we
do
have
a
safe
that
we
keep.
You
know
piles
and
piles
of
bingo
paper
that
we
inventory
very
regularly,
because
we
cannot
afford
to
lose
every
any
single
sheet
of
that
paper
because
of
its
importance
to
be
authentic
and
proof
of
originality
of
all
the
certificates
that
we
issue
out.
D
D
The
cost
and
all
the
labor
involved
throughout
the
process
of
handling
a
physical
paper
centric
process
is
about
28
per
document.
Now
you
can
also
imagine
because
the
value-
and
you
know
the
transaction
varies
between
here
to
here
and
there's
really
not
a
good
way
to
forecast
this
type
of
stuff.
We
have
to
do
fee
studies
periodically
to
make
sure
we
are
only
charging
what
the
cost
is
to
us.
D
So
that's
another
undertaking
that
we
have
to
do
regularly,
which
is
a
pretty
big
endeavor,
to
try
to
factor
in
all
the
labor
associated
to
fulfilling
those
type
of
work.
So
that's
one
of
the
first
huge
use
case
now
so
when
we
brought
it
to
my
partners,
aws
and
infosys,
the
goal
is
definitely
to
say
all
right.
We
really
need
to
take
another
look
at
how
we
can
approach
this.
D
D
So
that's
currently
in
the
works
and
in
the
timeline.
I
just
learned
that
two
weeks
ago
the
timeline
maybe
kind
of
push
out.
We
were
hoping
this
will
go
through
the
process
by
end
of
this
calendar
year.
I
believe
there's
some
delay
happening,
so
I
need
to
really
get
get
my
head
around
exactly
what
the
timeline
looks
like
from
this
point
forward,
but
the
good
thing
is
yeah.
D
I
think
we
all
feel
pretty
confident
it's
gonna
happen
and
it's
something
that
sacramento
our
state
capital
is
looking
at
and
they
have
work
groups
and
whatnot
and
supporters
as
well
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please
maybe
thank
you.
The
second
use
case
is
something
more
specific
internally
to
our
country
government.
So
as
part
of
our
responsibility
as
assessor
county
clerk
recorder,
we
are
also
responsible
to
service
our
internal
customers,
which
is
40
plus
other
departments
within
kelvin
over
riverside.
D
So
our
responsibility
is
also
handling
regular
retention
so
as
as
part
of
government
entity,
depending
on
what
kind
of
business
and
what
kind
of
a
state
code
or
regulations
that
you
are
bid
by
to
to
do
your
operations,
such
as
social
services,
sheriffs,
human
resources
and
so
on
so
forth.
There
is
requirement
to
retain
records
or
official
records
for
a
period
of
time,
so
hr
may
have
a
30
plus
years
of
retention.
Schedule
based
on
employee
information
or
70
years
or
a
county
may
have
seven
years
of
records
for
accounting
related.
D
So
we
as
a
assessor
county
clerk
reporter.
We
are
the
kind
of
the
service
provider
to
facilitate,
to
make
sure
that
most
of
those
records
are
in
compliance
with
their
retention
schedule.
Based
on
whatever
that
requirement.
Is
you
know
for
that
line
of
business?
So
again
I
did
the
same
thing.
So
that's
our
business
and
the
picture
you
see
in
front
of
you
on
the
slide
is
actually
our
warehouse.
D
People
want
to
retain
the
original
or
the
law
require
us
to
retain
the
original
unaltered
version
of
the
truth
and
the
best
way
to
do
it
is
actually
to
take
those
papers
and
shove
them
onto
a
shell
somewhere,
and
then
we
make
sure
that
this
governance
around
those
boxes
that
that
people
cannot
temper
or
destroy
them.
So
again,
the
stats
as
you
can
see,
we
have
200
000,
plus
boxes,
and
those
are
just
the
boxes
that
we
know
of
that
are
submitted
to
us.
D
All
this
here
internally,
I
did
lead
the
effort
to
actually
outsource
the
handling
of
the
physical
paper,
even
though
we're
still
the
governing
entity
around
it.
But
yet
the
physical
and
logistical
work
were
outsourced
to
a
third
party
that
provides.
You
know,
economy
of
skill,
for
the
the
the
component
of
housing
them
and
on
the
right
you
can
kind
of
see
an
abstract
of
the
costing
involved.
Now
that
is
handled
by
a
third
party,
I
just
pulled
out
a
few
to
kind
of.
D
Let
you
understand
if
I
am
housing
them,
I
have
a
team
of
six
or
seven
people.
I
have
x
amount
of
square
footage
whether
or
not
the
shelves
are
filled
up
or
not.
There
is
a
fixed
cost
that
I
have
to
plan
for
for
the
maximum
capacity
that
may
or
may
not
come
to
nowhere.
Outsourcing
we
do
take
have
advantage
of
variable
costing
based
on
the
volume
that
we
actually
need,
but
then
the
complication
is
depending
on
what
you
need
when
you
need
it.
D
D
D
So
those
two
use
cases
are
the
ones
that
we
brought
forward
to
try
to
tackle
with
our
partners,
as
you
can
see.
So
why
blockchain
right
the
left
vertical,
showing
you
what
I
just
described
paper,
centric
processes
that
we
have
to
touch
in
this
physical
logistics
are
happening
to
make
things
work
for
what
we
do
now.
The
green
vertical
is
digitizing
right.
D
So,
whether
or
not
you
have
a
scanned
process
to
take
out
your
paper
and
to
scan
them
and
from
that
point
forward
we
can
use
digital
process
which
is
much
more
efficient,
accurate
and
timely,
or
you
literally
bypass
the
skin
and
just
create
your
process
using
digitally
born
documents
and
never
really
make
it
a
physical
version
of
it
either
way,
there's
plenty
of
solutions
out
there
and
providers
that
can
help
us
digitize.
So
that
is
not
the
challenge.
D
We
know
a
lot
of
vendors
out
there
that
can
have
a
system
to
to
facilitate
workflow
all
kinds
of
digital
information,
but
that
vertical
and
that
solution
doesn't
solve
the
underlying
challenge
that
we
have
as
a
county
government,
which
is
the
trust,
the
trust
of
that
document
that
they're
seeing
in
front
of
them.
For
whatever
reason
there
has
to
be
a
level
of
confidence
and
trust
and
immutability,
using
the
the
jargon
that
people
have
to
know.
That
was
the
source
of
truth.
D
That
was
the
original
version
and
from
that
point
of
creation
or
whenever
in
the
process
that
document
or
information
is
dubbed,
as
now
the
official
record,
it
has
to
be
verifiable
and
obviously
paper
delivers
that,
whether
or
not
again
using
physical
paper
type
that
only
government
can
retrieve
or
purchase
or
housing.
You
know
forms
or
papers
that
we
require
people
to
sign
using
the
blue
ink
onto
the
sheet.
D
Those
are
all
mechanisms
written
in
our
regulations
or
code
to
protect
trust
of
the
originality
of
that
document.
So
having
the
ability
to
digitize,
the
vertical
is
only
the
one
end
of
the
situation
or
our
solution.
The
trust
mechanism
was
never
really
there's
no
good
solution
out
there
for
a
long
time
until
blockchain
comes
along.
So,
as
you
can
imagine,
blockchain
delivers
that
trust
component
immutability
and
we
allow
us
to
be
verifiable
documents
of
his
authenticity.
D
D
That
was
the
missing
piece,
and
now
it
is
mature
enough
for
us
to
really
really
take
a
look
at
how
we
can
pretty
much
change
and
involve
and
transition
into
a
digital
world.
Next
slide,
please
maybe
so.
At
the
end,
I
will
conclude
that
the
business
this
is
my
boss,
the
elected
honorable,
cesar
county
clerk
recorder.
He
is
at
riverside
county,
peter
aldana.
This
is
his
quote
and
we're
striving
to
live
up
to
it.
D
We
are
not
in
the
business
to
be
the
next.com
and
with
all
this
latest
technology
and
advancement,
we
do
not
want
to
be
in
the
position
and
we
probably
will
never
be
able
to
achieve
to
be
in
a
position
that
we
are
the
most
advanced
I.t
shop
that
can
deliver
all
this
for
our
core
business
and
and
understanding
that
early
on.
We
need
partners
such
as
awsa
invoices.
D
So
that's
why
we're
very
grateful
to
have
this
opportunity
to
really
explore
all
these
challenges
and
and
and
potential
opportunities
with
great
partners
such
as
awsa
forces,
and
we
have
definitely,
you
know-
achieved
some
great
stuff
together.
So
that's
kind
of
the
business
side
of
things
scenario,
so
I
will
pass
it
back
to
maggie.
B
So
what
we
are
doing
is
we
all
know
that
the
record
that
we
are
handling
is
personally
identifiable
information,
so
it
is
very
sensitive.
What
we
are
doing
is
in
the
first
part
of
the
solution.
We
are
computing,
the
hash
of
the
digital
record.
Okay,
so
it
could
be
a
pdf
which
is
in
the
form,
which
is
the
pdf
of
a
marriage
certificate
or
a
birth
certificate.
B
We
compute
the
hash
of
that
record
and
that
hash
is
what
is
stored
on
to
the
blockchain
okay,
so
the
document
per
se,
the
personally
identifiable
information,
never
enters
the
blockchain,
so
that
is
one
very
significant
part
of
our
solution
and
obviously
from
the
hash,
it
is
on
impossible
to.
You
know,
create
a
document,
and
you
know
look
at
the
information
that
is
contained
in
the
record
next.
B
What
we
do
is,
since
this
hash
is
now
residing
on
the
blockchain
and
the
digital
record
is
handed
over
to
the
citizen,
either
in
the
form
of
an
email,
or
you
know
some
in
some
way.
The
pdf
document
goes
to
the
citizen.
Now
this
citizen
might
use
his
record,
which
could
be
a
birth
certificate
or
a
marriage
certificate
where
he
submits
these
again
in
digital
format,
to
other
departments
to
other
service
providers.
It
could
be
government
departments,
it
could
be
private
departments.
B
Now,
when
these
departments
receive
these
records,
you
know
some
department.
Let's
say
the
passport
department
receives
the
marriage
certificate
so
that
the
name
of
the
spouse
can
be
entered
onto
the
passport
and
before
they
do
that,
they
want
to
verify
this
marriage
certificate,
whether
this
marriage
certificate
is
authentic
or
not.
So
that
is
where
we
start
the
second
part
of
the
solution.
B
So
the
verifiers
now
want
to
verify
the
authenticity
of
the
record
for
this
in
a
paper
based,
you
know
a
conventional
way
of
doing
it.
They
would
have
put
a
request
to
the
assessor's
office.
The
assessor's
office
would
have
received
those
details.
They
would
have
looked
up
in
their
records
if
it
is
a
recent
one.
Probably
they
look
it
up
in
their
systems
if
it
is
a
very
old
one,
they
go
to
those.
You
know
those
warehouses
where
these
things
are
kept
and
they
verify
it
and
then
they
communicate
it
to
the
verifier.
B
So
that
involves
time
that
involves
cost,
and
that
also
makes
the
experience
for
the
citizen,
not
so
good.
So
that
is
where
the
second
part
of
the
solution
comes
in.
The
county
also
now
has
a
verifying
portal,
so
any
third
party
who
is
receiving
such
a
record
can
simply
drag
and
drop
the
credential
onto
that
particular
portal
that
put
that
portal.
What
it
does
is
it
again
computes
the
hash
of
that
document
which
it
has
received
and
that
hash
is
compared
with
the
hash
of
the
document
when
the
document
was
issued.
B
B
This
is
what
we
mean
that
the
verifier
any
verifier
can
verify
this
official
record
or
a
you
know,
personally
identifiable
record
provided
by
the
citizen.
The
citizen
himself
can
go
to
this
portal
and
verify
his
record
before
he
wants
to
submit
it
externally
to
any
other
department
maggie.
Can
you
go
to
the
next
one?
B
B
Assessor
office
provides
the
digital
record.
They
might
also
provide
the
physical
record
alongside,
but
what
they
do
is
they
put
the
hash
of
that
document
onto
the
blockchain?
You
can
click
it
once
more.
Now
the
citizen
submits
this
to
any
other
department.
In
my
example,
it
was
the
passport
office,
so
he
submits
it
to
the
passport
office.
The
passport
office
now
simply
drags
and
drops
it
onto
the
verifying
portal
that
verifying
portal
is
connected
to
the
blockchain.
B
Again,
he
gets
an
okay
or
a
warning
or
an
error
that
you
know
that
there
has
been
some
tampering
with
this
document
so
depending
on
that
the
other
department
can
take
the
subsequent
action.
Now
all
of
these
actions
of
issuing
of
the
credential,
you
know
the
credential
being
verified
by
some
other
department.
B
All
of
these
actions
are
also
recorded
onto
the
blockchain,
so
these
are
the
transactions
that
the
blockchain
record
and
a
audit
of
this
is
also
enabled
in
our
solution.
So,
if
later
on,
you
know
the
other
department
is
questioned.
Whether
did
you
actually
verify
the
credentials
of
the
citizen
before
you
issued
them
a
passport,
so
they
can
show
them
the
audit
record.
Also,
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
B
What
we
have
done
is
in
this
45
minutes
or
one
hour
that
we
have
today.
We
have
I
mean
we
have
we
had
can
who
has
explained
very
beautifully
what
the
problem
is.
We
had
maggie
who
explained
us
how
the
infrastructure
and
how
the
you
know
the
technology
stack
builds
up.
I
have
explained
you
the
blockchain
part
of
it,
and
what
exactly
are
the
actions
that
have?
What
exactly
is
the
feature
of
blockchain
that
we
are
using
here?
B
But
in
addition
to
that,
we
all
the
three
of
us
have
co-authored
a
white
paper.
Tech
wire
has
also
featured
it,
so
you
can
go
to
any
of
these
sites
and
have
a
deep
dive
into
the
solution
that
we
have
built.
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide
and
probably
you
will
have
to
stop
sharing
so
that
I
can
play
the
demo.
B
Video,
please
do
somebody
please
do.
Let
me
know
when
you
are
able
to
see
my
screen
so
that
I'll
then
start
playing
the
video.
We
can
see
it
yep
okay,
so
this
is
the
login
screen
of
the
admin
in
the
assessor's
office.
So
we
are
look
going
to
now
see
the
steps
by
which
he
issues
a
digital
credential.
Here
we
are
issuing
a
marriage
certificate
in
a
pdf
form,
so
the
login
to
this
solution.
B
A
B
D
C
B
He
goes
to
the
next
step.
The
next
step
is
to
actually
give
the
digital
record,
so
here
he
picks
up
the
marriage
certificate
and
drops
it
into
the
window
in
that
website.
On
that
portal,
the
hash
is
generated.
He
sees
a
acknowledgement
that
the
hash
has
been
generated
and
it
has
been
posted
onto
the
blockchain
from
the
admins
perspective.
There
are
also
some
reports
that
are
available
relating
to
all
the
records
that
he
has
issued.
B
A
B
So
so
so
what
we
saw
up
till
now
is
the
first
part
of
the
solution
that
the
admin
is
issuing.
The
credential
or
the
marriage
certificate
and
like
we
saw
the
drag
and
drop,
is
not
an
upload
of
the
marriage
certificate
into
the
blockchain.
Only
the
hash
is
computed
and
the
hash
is
stored
onto
the
blockchain.
Now
we
go
to
the
next
step
before
the
next
step.
What
happen?
B
B
B
They
click
on
the
validate
button.
Within
a
few
seconds.
They
get
a
message
that
the
document
has
been
verified
and
it
is
a
exact
electronic
reproduction
of
the
original.
So
this
there
has
been
no
tampering
in
this
document,
and
you
know
this
is
a
valid
document.
This
action
of
verification
also
gets
recorded
onto
the
blockchain,
so,
like
I
was
saying
it
can
be
used
evidence
as
evidence
later
on
that
the
verification
was
done
by
that
external
department
before
they
issued
any
other
credential
there
also.
B
So
if
there
is
any
tampering
in
the
document
and
a
tampered
document
is
put
in
for
verification,
then
what
happens
is
that
again,
the
they're
dropping
a
document?
The
document
is
actually
tampered
they're,
trying
to
verify
it,
but
the
verification
fails.
Even
this
action
gets
recorded
onto
the
blockchain,
so
nothing
much.
We
have
done
for
such
an
event.
We
will
just
tell
the
citizen
that
you
have
given
us
a
wrong
credential.
Please
give
us
the
correct
one
and
the
citizen
will
give
them
a
correct
one.
B
The
audit
that
I
was
talking
about.
We
have
enabled
that
also
in
the
solution-
and
here
there
are
several
ways
of
doing
the
audit
of
transactions.
One
way
of
that
is
again
uploading
a
file.
So
you
know
this
is
the
auditor
or
some
other
allied
department,
which
is
picking
up
that
credential
again
and
is
trying
to
verify
it
so
trying
to
get
an
audit
trail
of
it.
B
B
So
this
in
a
very
short
video,
I
have
tried
to
explain
the
the
way
we
have
used
a
very
simple
feature
of
blockchain
and
we
have
tried
to
solve
a
complex
problem
that
the
county
was
facing.
We
plan
to
now
take
this
to
other
counties
along
with
aws
can
is
also
helping
us
in
doing
a
lot
of
road
shows.
We
will
be
taking
it
to
more
counties,
probably
to
more
states
as
well
from
a
citizen's
perspective.
It
actually
makes
him
mobile.
B
The
other
county
will
also
be
able
to
verify
it
instantly.
The
other
departments
in
that
county
or
the
new
state
which
he
where
he
is
moving,
will
be
able
to
verify
it
instantly
for
any
legal
relay
related
things
or
any
investigation
related
things.
If
you
know
an
audit
has
to
be
done,
whether
the
documents
were
verified
before
the
credentials
were
issued,
all
that
can
be
enabled.
C
D
If
you're,
if
that's
referring
to
existing
operations,
I
think
we
include
all
costs
to
generate
or
come
up
with
the
fee
that
we're
charging
now,
if
that's
relating
to
the
blockchain
aspect
of
it
kind
of
envisioning
how
the
fees
will
be
calculated
to
charge,
we
don't
have
that
answer
yet,
but
I
think
just
very
preliminary
kind
of
just
getting
our
head
around
the
fact
that
we
will
be
able
to
leverage.
You
know
all
the
the
kind
of
the
variable
costing
as
a
service
using
aws
model
cloud
concept.
D
D
We
buy
enough
servers
just
because,
once
you
know
one
month
in
a
year,
we're
gonna
peek
it
out,
because
it's
the
most
important
part
of
the
month
and
then
we
always
kind
of
provision
based
on
the
highest
level
possible
that
that
concept
is
no
different
for
us
staffing
folks,
even
though
sometimes
the
windows,
nobody
shows
up,
but
we
still
have
five
staff
sitting
there.
Trying
to
you
know
potentially
fulfill
that,
so
we
will
know
that
a
little
bit
more
down
the
road
as
we
continue
to
evolve
this
into
production
version
of
it.
D
In
reality,
the
api
we
have
our
line
of
business
applications
that
I
can
call
the
api
and
automatically
send
the
metadata
in
the
digital
version
of
the
file
into
this
exact,
same
po
proof
of
concept
blockchain,
so
that
process
there.
You
know
we
can
make
it
without
human
intervention
and
truly
deliver
and
have
the
potential
to
deliver
a
full
e-commerce
experience.
D
So
think
about
this
right,
you
go
to
amazon,
you
select
a
product,
but
in
this
time
you're
going
to
select
a
marriage
license
and
you
go
through
proving
who
you
are
through
various
different
id
proofing
capabilities,
and
then
you
put
in
your
credit
card
you
hit
submit
and
five
minutes
later.
You're
gonna
get
an
email
with
your
birth
certificate
that
you
just
purchased
and
because
of
that
integration
and
how
this
is
actually
architected.
D
I
can
connect
all
kinds
of
land
of
business
application
that
we
currently
use
or
we
will
develop
to
facilitate
paper-centric
process
and
then
literally
just
tie
it
into
this
back
end
architecture
and
then
truly
streamline
the
operation
experience.
Hopefully
I
answered
that
maybe
turn
it
back
to
you.
C
Yeah,
I
think
that's
a
great
answer
pretty
exciting.
The
the
next
set
of
questions
was
around
pricing,
so
I've
included
a
link
to
our
pricing
page
as
well
as
the
network
architecture
and
we're
actually
working
on
a
blog
post
around
this,
and
I
think
that'll
be
in
there
so
happy
to
send
that
along
when
it's
live,
and
then
the
final
set
of
questions
more
on
the
technical
side
I'll
give
to
abhishek.
So
the
first
one
is.
B
B
I
can
see
one
question
which
talks
about:
are
you
storing
the
docs
on
centralized
server
so
for
the
solution?
Part
of
it
like?
I
said
the
document
actually
never
enters
the
blockchain.
We
just
take
the
hash
and
we
that
is
what
we
are
handling
in.
The
blockchain
probably
can
can
answer
you
know.
Is
there
some
kind
of
a
digital
document
management
solution
that
they're
using
for
all
the
documents
that
they
are
handling.
D
Yeah,
that's
correct,
I
think
most
of
the
the
our
department
definitely
have.
You
know
a
document
management
system
where
a
lot
of
our
existing
documents
or
digital
versions
of
the
are
inside.
So
that's
where
we
plan
to
house
those
original
source
documents.
We
don't
intend
on
putting
those
source
documents
onto
blockchain
for
both
security
destruction
requirements
right.
So,
even
though
the
hash
of
a
document
that's
supposed
to
be
destroyed
after
seven
years,
we
can
delete
the
pdf
in
our
own
document.
D
B
There
is
one
last
question:
how
many
organizations
and
peers
are
involved
in
the
solution
in
this
poc?
It
is,
I
think,
only
one
node
for
the
for
the
assessor's
office.
The
beauty
of
this
solution
is
that
the
verifier
need
not
have
a
node,
so
you
know
he
just
goes
to
the
verifying
portal.
He
has
not
subscribed
to
any
service
either
from
infosys
or
from
blockchain
or
from
aws
he's.
He
has
received
a
digital
credential.
D
D
We
are
envisioning
that
we
want
to
build
a
sort
of
a
work
group
or
consortium
of
counties
who
are
willing
to
stand
up
a
note
and
because
you
know
every
county
has
this
business.
We
all
do
the
same
thing
and
then
obviously,
the
stronger
the
fabric
or
the
the
participants
are
the
the
more
secure
the
better
for
the
infrastructure
of
blockchain,
and
we
also
will
be
able
to
to
leverage
each
other.
Because,
again,
our
citizens
cross
counties
right.
D
They
move
from
one
place
to
another,
so
having
that
one
central
architecture
and
the
same
model
of
governance,
and
we
can
all
take
advantage
of
it,
it's
kind
of
where
we're
leaning
towards
how
to
build
up
that
consortium.
I
do
also
see
a
question
that
came
up
about
the
certified
copy
of
real
estate
tax.
D
We
are
definitely
open,
I
think,
for
the
proof
of
concept.
I've
shown
the
two
use
cases,
but
I
can
assure
you
that
is
not
where
it's
going
to
end
because,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
if
we
stood
this
up
correctly,
where
this
is
a
a
very
county-specific
back-end
blockchain
capability
that
we
can
easily
integrate
to
any
line
of
business
and
any
line
of
business
application
that
facilitate,
for
example,
certificate.
You
know,
estate,
tax
or
social
services
or
that
need
to
issue
whatever
letters.
D
That's
what
of
importance
anybody
can
tie
into
a
to
this
blockchain
fabric
and
send
in
the
hash
and
the
metadata
to
leverage
this
ability
of
literally
stamping
that
point
in
time
to
prove
the
authenticity
of
a
document
at
that
process
for
that
business.
So
you
know
if
we
do
this
right.
The
this
is
the
foundation
to
allow
multiple
county
government
entities,
departments
revolutionize,
how
they
handle
their
work
and
they
can
literally
just
hook
into
it
whenever
they're,
ready
or
or
wanted
to
to
transform.
So,
hopefully
I
answered
that
question.