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A
Hello,
everybody-
this
is
Ray
dogum
here.
This
is
the
hyperledger
healthcare
special
interest
group
meeting
for
February
1st
and
I
am
just
displaying
here.
The
Anti-Trust
policy
notice
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping
before
we
get
started.
The
Linux
Foundation
meeting
involved
participation
by
industry
competitors
and
it
is
the
intention
of
the
Linux
Foundation
to
conduct
all
that
activities
in
accordance
with
applicable
Anti-Trust
and
competition
laws.
A
Basically,
it's
important
for
everyone
to
make
sure
they
don't
say
anything
that
is
prohibited
by
law
under
the
Anti-Trust
policies
and
yeah.
So
this
more
details
can
be
found
in
this
link.
Linuxfoundation.Org,
slash,
antitrust
policy
yeah
so
again
welcome
everyone.
This
is
a
hyperledger
community,
so
everyone
here
is
welcome.
It
is
an
open
community
and
you
can
view
the
full
hyperledger
code
of
conduct
by
searching
it
as
well
and
just
for
everyone's
awareness,
hyperledger
sponsors
members
are
all
here
listed.
A
You
have
Premier
members
and
general
members
listed,
so
your
company
might
be
listed
and
you
might
not
even
know
it
so
hopefully
we'll
continue
to
gain
more
members
into
our
community
here
and
if
you
haven't
been
involved
in
an
open
source
project
before
it
could
be
intimidating
to
start
some
tips
to
get
comfortable
feel
free
to
lurk.
You
know
check
out
what
others
are
doing
on
the
wiki
pages
and
communication
channels
as
well.
A
A
That
being
said,
I
would
like
to
jump
over
to
our
agenda
for
the
day,
and
we
have
here
see
four
participants,
Asha,
Erica
and
also
I
believe
Doug's
on
as
well.
So
thank
you
guys
for
joining
very
much
and
before
we
get
started.
Would
anyone
like
to
introduce
yourselves?
Maybe
if
you
haven't
already
otherwise
we
can
get
started.
A
So
I
just
noticed,
I
didn't
turn
on
my
video
as
well.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
do
that
so
in
terms
of
upcoming
events
related
to
healthcare
and
blockchain.
There's
a
European
blockchain
convention
happening
February
15th
to
the
17th
in
Spain
in
Barcelona,
in
March
20
to
24th
Paris
blockchain
week
is
happening.
March
26
to
the
29th.
B
B
C
A
A
C
A
A
lot
of
these
schools
are
dropping
out
of
participating
in
this
U.S
news
listing
is
because
it's
leading
to
misalign
incentives
internally
with
their
what
their
internal
University.
So
this
is
creating
sort
of
an
issue,
and
they
think
that
by
removing
themselves
from
here,
those
incentives
will
be
removed
and
philosophically
it
would
be
better
for
the
universities
not
to
be
part
of
this
any
thoughts.
Anybody
on
this
one.
A
A
C
A
Rankings
provide
a
flawed
and
misleading
assessment
of
medical
schools,
lack
inaccuracy
validity
and
relevance.
So
that's
sort
of
like
the
theme
here,
yeah
I'm,
gonna,
move
on
to
the
next
one
and
the
reason
I
bring
it
up
just
to
kind
of
close
a
circle
here,
I
think
potentially,
if
we
have
more
transparent
data
from
universities
in
a
way,
maybe
even
on
a
blockchain
perhaps
or
some
distributed
Ledger.
A
A
What's
holding
that
was
back,
I
thought
this
was
interesting
because
there
are
a
lot
of
proponents
for
Dows
and
you
know
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
potential
for
downs,
but
some
things
that
were
said
here
were
interesting
here.
You
know
they're
talking
about
how
in
Wyoming
there's
new
Dow
laws,
liming,
Vermont
and
Tennessee.
A
However,
it
became
evident
as
soon
as
Dao's
collided
with
the
real
world
that
these
powerful
new
vehicles
for
crowdfunding
and
organization
are
constrained
by
immense
coordination
and
Regulatory
quests
that
can
negate
the
benefits
of
using
it
down
in
the
first
place.
So
on
the
coordination
side
does
add.
Friction
by
add
friction
to
using
Resources
by
requiring
members
to
pass
proposals
by
default.
A
Most
Dows
today
are
at
risk
of
being
what
ethereum
co-founder
calls
veto
bureaucracy,
bureaucracy,
so,
basically,
where
the
default
outcome
is
no,
unless
a
proposal
sponsor
rounds
up
sufficient
support
for
the
project,
so
it
sort
of
becomes
like
a
popularity
contest
in
a
way
in
many
ways,
just
making
coordination
and
actual
decision
making
more
difficult,
I
think
there's
work
being
done
on
the
coordination
side
of
those
there's.
Some
companies
looking
at
how
to
make
Dows
more
effective,
so
should
be
interesting
here.
A
B
Foreign,
my
experience
with
it
has
been:
it's
been
hard
to
incentivize
people
to
really
participate
when
it's
all
a
lot
of
the
ones
I've
been
have
been
really
a
volunteer
basis
there.
There
isn't
it's
hard
when
everything's
coming
from
a
volunteer
standpoint
to
really
engage
people
to
participate
in
some
of
them,
depending
on
you
know
which
ones
you're
in
or
it's
just
been
things
kind
of
fall
apart
and
that's
what
I've
seen.
A
D
B
Yeah
I
was
part
of
medigam
adultha,
which
is
a
Dell
that
funds
women-led
projects,
I
mean
I
still
am
but-
and
we've
done
you
know,
that's
been
part
of
the
problem-
is
that
the
incentive
to
get
people
to
put
proposals
together
or
like
really
be
ahead
of
these
committees
that
evaluate
these
projects,
I
mean
there's
still
people
doing
it
and
people
that
are
really
involved,
but
it's
hard
to
get
people
to
engage.
We
also
had
some
problems
with
the
polygon
Network
like
voting.
It
got
really
slow
and
there
was
technical
issues.
B
A
Thanks
Erica
I
appreciate
that
yeah
and
they
could
just
one
sentence
here
on
the
regulatory
side.
Starting
a
dow
is
easy.
You
can
create
a
multi-sig.
Wallet
requires
multiple
people
to
sign
transactions
together.
The
cost
of
starting
a
compliant
Dow,
however,
is
immense.
So
that's
sort
of
like
the
takeaway.
A
Yeah
and
you
know
being
compliant-
is
a
moving
Target
as
well
in
the
space
definitely
Amazon
entering
web
3
via
nfts.
So
this
is
interesting
because
the
Amazon
company
has
been
or
AWS
Amazon
has
been
in
the
web.
3
realm
to
some
degree.
I
know
they've
been
hiring
people
in
web
3
for
at
least
a
year
now,
but
the
what
they're
trying
to
do
exactly
wasn't
clear.
But
here
I
guess
this
is
a
rumor.
Amazon
is
rumored
to
be
unveiling
a
nft
initiative,
part
of
the
retail
Giants
larger
push-up
to
web
3..
A
Was
that
it
for
this
crisis
you're?
Not
here,
it
is
so
yeah
it
talks
about.
We
know
whether
or
not
nfts
are
securities
and
how
Amazon's
going
to
deal
with
that.
But
let's
try
to
see
exactly
what
they're
trying
to
build
here
so
I
guess
the
report
was
by
block
works
and
the
shift
coming
soon.
This
is
an
exclusive
published
January
26th
advertisement.
A
A
Hopefully
more
news
coming
out
of
this
from
Amazon
I.
Just
think
it'll
be
a
really
big
moment
for
the
industry,
because
then
you'll
have
you
know
more
mass
adoption.
You
can
say
get
over
here.
Just
to
make
a
point.
The
CEO
of
Amazon
has
privileged
stated
he's
open
to
the
company
selling
nfts
and
that
the
company's
not
closing
the
door
to
cryptocurrencies
generally
I
think
it's
an
important
statement.
A
Okay,
moving
on:
oh,
yes,
so
this
is
a
government
related
event
that
happened
actually
Tuesday
I.
Think
yesterday,
yes
February
or
sorry
January
to
31st
I
guess
there
were
multiple
announcements
or
round
tables
here.
But
my
point
is
it's
interesting
to
see
that
the
copyright
office
in
the
United
States,
Patent,
Trademark
Office,
are
working
with
people
to
understand
non-fungible
tokens
and
to
study
it
and
to
determine
how
it
will
impact
what
they
do.
A
So
there
were
three
round
tables
publicly
available
for
everyone,
one
on
trademarks,
one
on
patents,
one
on
copyright,
I
believe
you
can
actually
go
ahead.
If
you
can't
view
them
already,
you
can
yeah
you
can
access
I
know
it
was
recorded.
So
I
think
you
can
access
those
through
their
website
somewhere
so
check
that
out
it
was
a
full
day:
Round
Table,
it
was
like
I
think
eight
hours
or
six
hours
or
something
so
there's
a
lot
of
information.
There
yeah
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
A
If
people
weren't
aware
that
the
government
is
definitely
trying
to
figure
this
all
out
here
and
it's
important
that
they
do
that,
because
we
need
the
right
regulations
to
move
forward
like
so
a
few
weeks
ago,
I
was
in
London,
where
I
got
the
chance
to
speak
to
many
decentralized
scientists,
and
it
was
an
event
called
D
side.
London
I
wrote
a
recap
in
conjunction
with
a
collaboration
with
bio,
and
you
can
read
the
recap
here.
Kind
of
this
discusses
what
was
covered.
A
A
There
are
lots
of
other
people,
Laura
McKinney
from
Athena
Dao
was
there
and
she
spoke,
and
overall
it
was
a
really
good
event,
I
thought
and
Progressive
in
terms
of
what's
happening
in
the
industry.
So
I
thought
there
was
some
new
announcements
that
were
pretty
cool
yeah.
Even
the
vitalik
was
on
the
screen
as
well
interviewed
by
Vincent.
It
was
a
recording,
but
yeah
we
got
to
participate
in
some
workshops.
So
hopefully,
if
you
guys
are
interested,
you
can
check
that
out.
There
are
many
Desai
events
all
over
the
world
now.
A
I
appreciate
that
Erica,
so
this
article
from
Vice
I
edited
human
DNA
at
home,
with
a
do-yourself
crisper
kit,
I
thought
this
was
interesting.
We
are
I,
think
all
sort
of
familiar
with
biohacking
as
a
as
a
trend.
A
lot
of
people
are
trying
to.
You
know,
create
their
own
nasal
vaccines
at
home
for
covet,
for
example,
and
they're.
You
know
miniature
Labs.
So
it's
quite
interesting
because
I
do
think
that
this
sort
of
trend
is
going
to
continue
to
grow.
A
That
being
said,
I
think
it
leads
to
potential
safety
risks
and
potential
ethical
risks
as
well,
especially
when
it
comes
to
crispr,
where
you
can
edit
your
own
living
Chino
or
genetic
DNA
potentially,
and
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
potential
Downstream
effects
that
we're
not
aware
of
yet.
So
we
want
to
be
doing
this
in
a
thoughtful
way.
A
But
the
point
is,
like
you
know
this
person
kind
of
discusses
how
they
went
ahead,
and
you
know
edited
genes
and
we
finally
good
put
in
perspective
compared
to
the
risks
of
driving
cars,
taking
medicine,
medication
using
drugs
and
any
other
risk.
We
accept
I
think
they
are
minimal
both
to
individuals
and
Society.
He
said
so.
This
is
the
person's
perspective.
A
Instead,
the
benefits
are
great:
we've
not
had
any
real
accidents
from
lay
people
using
crispr.
It's
all
hypothetical
risks
so
far,
people
might
harm
themselves
with
crispr
might
create
a
pest
dangerous
to
agriculture
or
the
environment
or
some
other
problem,
but
I
consider
it
unlikely
at
present.
So
you
can
see
like
how
comfortable
this
person
is
with
doing
this.
His
name
is
zainer
and
yeah.
I
just
thought
it
was
really
telling
of
what's
what's
going
on
and
it's
not
a
crime
by
hacking
is
not
a
crime
or
I.
A
Guess
that's
a
sticker
that
they
used
I'm
sure
that
there
are
levels
of
criminality
in
terms
of
what
you
can
do.
You
can't
do
everything
especially
trials
on
humans
without
their
consent
and
also
registered
with
the
FDA.
So
you
know
there
are
interesting
risks
here
there
is
a
Netflix
docu
series
called
unnatural
selection
came
out
2019,
and
it
actually
shows
this
person
attempting
to
edit
their
DNA.
So
just
want
to
point
this
out
has
implications
for
our
future
in
biotech,
so
yeah.
C
C
A
A
Yeah
in
terms
of
like
living
creatures
or
at
least
animals,
humans,
I,
don't
know
it's
a
good
question.
Well
I.
We
can
dig
into
that
for
next
time,
maybe
because
I
do
think
it's
important
and
I
think
more
people
are
doing
it.
So
we
need
to
kind
of
address
some
of
these
issues
before
it
gets
too
late.
B
A
A
All
right
legal
dangers
of
getting
involved
with
those.
So
a
lot
of
Dow
warnings
here
so
buying
Dow
tokens.
That's
no
longer
risk-free
courts
might
consider
you
as
a
partner
in
the
business
and
judge
you
liable
for
millions
in
hacked
funds.
So
what's
what
it's
saying
is?
If
you
do
join
a
Dao,
you
might
be
implicating
yourself
in
the
future,
because
if
let's
say
a
company
like
you
know,
Nike
identifies
that
you
join
there's
a
group
of
people
who
join
a
Dao
for
sports
Dao
or
something
and
they're
using
the
Nike
logo.
A
A
A
A
Moving
on
to
the
next
article
here,
yeah
another
Dao
topic
this
one
more
on
a
positive
note:
Dows
might
be
cure
for
biotech
startups
and
new
drug
development.
This
is
published
about
two
weeks
ago
and
basically,
it's
discussing
how
it
actually
even
for
example,
says
here:
Beat
It,
Down
molecule
are
two
Dows
that
were
created
to
fund
longevity
research
and
Pfizer
recently
committed
500
000
to
Veterans,
suggesting
Dallas
might
be
entering
the
mainstream,
so
you
get
people
with
shared
interests.
A
A
The
key
here
is
that
no
down
member
has
any
financial
interest
in
the
Target
projects
by
reason
of
being
a
down
member
okay.
So
I
guess
this
is
an
important
note
here,
but
you
still
do
get
perks.
Besides
funding
specific
projects,
Dallas
could
create
additional
benefits
through
the
creation
of
tokens
with
unique
rights
or
properties
as
a
condition
to
funding
any
particular
project.
A
down
might
demand
that
its
members
be
granted
certain
rights
or
benefits.
A
C
A
Terms
of
patient
doubts
and
in
the
sense
here,
so
that's
really
cool
I-
think
there's
more
traction
happening
and
it's
good
news
all
right.
So
you
guys
have
heard
of
a
company
from
California
a
long
time
ago
that
promised
that
it
can
measure
thousands
of
molecules
from
a
single
drop.
But
this
one
and
it's
a
different
one
and
researchers
that
stand
for
medicine
have
shown
they
can
measure
thousands
of
molecules
from
a
single
drop
of
blood
and
I'm.
Just
gonna
skim
through
here.
A
I
guess
my
point
is
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
before
this
is
commercialized,
that
the
research
is
done
and
validated
and
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
to
see
these
test
kits
at
home?
Potentially,
so
that's
what
they're
saying
here
the
next
step
for
the
Snyder
lab
will
be
to
expand
the
pilot
studies
and
offer
multi-ohmic
microsampling
to
a
broader
swath
of
patients.
A
A
Here
says:
when
we
raised
a
35
million
round,
we
were
20
people
now
we're
over
120
people,
the
in
that
that's
whiskey,
said
who
is
I,
believe
the
CEO
yep
CEO
and
co-founder
here
of
the
company.
So
that's
a
significant
chunk
of
change.
I
think
that's
really
incredible
how
much
they've
raised
and
they
were
found
in
2017
and
they're,
trying
to
build
the
web
3
infrastructure
well,
they're,
aiming
to
bring
web
to
infrastructure
to
web3
and.
A
It
looks
like
they're
gaining
a
lot
of
traction.
The
platform
here
handles
over
200
billion
API
requests
monthly
and
is
always
available
with
99
99.99
uptime,
so
interesting,
very
curious
how
how
this
company
will
play
out
they
have
it
says
here
we
have
over
five
fifty
thousand
developers
on
the
platform
constantly
requesting
new
things,
but
for
us
the
roadmap
is
always
the
addition
of
particles
and
working
with
these
foundations.
A
A
A
A
Okay,
this
is
an
article
published
this
last
month
when
is
decentralizing
on
a
blockchain,
valuable
kind
of
discusses.
What
your
operating
model
should
look
like
if
you
are
trying
to
use
a
a
down
for
your
organization,
figuring
out
how
decentralized
it
should
be,
and
if
it
should
be
on
a
blockchain
at
all
in
the
first
place,
is,
is
sort
of
like
what
this
article
kind
of
guides
you
through
and
discusses
even
like
airdrops.
At
what
time
should
you
decentralize?
A
A
So
how
large
exactly
sufficiently
large
is,
has
to
be
determined
on
a
case-by-case
basis
and
depends
on
the
specifics
of
the
network,
such
as
the
strength
of
network
effects,
users
aversion
to
monetization
the
potential
profit
for
monetization
and
user
growth,
and
it
suggests
some
academic
work
on
how
to
measure
that
size
of
blocked.
In
effect,
that
could
be
directionally
useful.
C
A
Next
up
here
is
from
science
and
it's
an
announcement
that
the
FDA
no
longer
needs
to
require
animal
tests
for
human
trials.
This
doesn't
mean
that
no
drugs
need
to
animal
trials.
It
just
means
that
they,
some
drugs,
can
bypass
that
step
and
go
directly
to
human
trials
in
some
cases
after
it's
been
approved.
A
So
it
is
a
big
deal
because
in
many
drug
development
processes
there
has
been
times
when
drugs
would
go
through
animal
testing,
I
guess
sort
of
unnecessarily
in
a
way
and
it
you
know
it
took
longer
for
the
drug
to
become
approved
overall.
So
by
cutting
down
that
time,
patients
might
be
able
to
get
their
drugs
a
little
bit
faster.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
doing
this.
A
In
silica
sort
of
testing
instead
of
in
animals,
so
here
last
month,
Lorna
ewart
Chief
scientific
officer
emulate
ingber
and
colleagues
published
a
study
highlighting
the
potential
of
this
technology.
Talking
about
silicon-based
polymers,
the
company's
liver
chips
correctly
identified,
87
of
the
variety
of
drugs
that
were
moved
into
humans
after
animal
studies,
but
then
either
failed
in
clinical
trials
because
they
were
toxic
to
the
liver
or
were
approved
per
Market,
but
then
withdrawn
or
scaled
back
because
of
liver
damage.
The
chips
didn't
falsely
flag,
any
non-toxic
drugs.
A
C
B
Yeah
I
just
read
in
there
that
they
think
it's
unreasonable
to
test
anti-nausea
drugs
and
dogs,
but,
like
my
understanding,
is
the
real
reason
that
they
use
animals
is
just
for
safety.
They're,
not
testing,
efficacy
and
I.
I
think
it's
great
that
they're
trying
not
to
use
animals,
so
if
they
can
come
up
with
a
better
way,
I
think
it's
great,
but
yeah
I,
and
especially
if
the
drugs
are.
You
know
similar
to
other
drugs
that
are
out
there,
but
yeah
I.
A
Sense,
exciting
the
animal
testing
requirement
yeah,
so
people
have
tried
to
bypass
the
animal
test
before
so
there's
still
going
to
be
some,
like
you
know,
investigations
into
this
into
these
drugs
before
they
get
going
to
humans,
but
it
won't
require
that
specific
requirement
that
has
existed
for
many
years.
Yeah.
A
Yeah,
that's
for
sure
all
right,
there's
a
medium
blog
here
posted
that
I
thought
was
interesting
by
Aaron,
zagal
delev
and
it's
sort
of
just
Maps
out
the
ecosystem
or
the
landscape
for
Health
Data
exchanges.
It
has
avenir
Medi
Ledger
hashtal
solve
care,
Pharma,
Ledger,
equium,
Health,
Medical
chain
and
I
can't
read
that
one.
But
it's
all
here
and
I
thought.
This
was
interesting,
see
how
this
was
mapped
out.
A
Well,
we
needed
to
get
into
different
examples
here,
but
the
point
is
like
this
could
be
a
really
good
starting
point
for
people
interested
in.
What's
going
on
in
the
Health
Data
exchange
side
of
blockchain
and
yeah,
it
could
lead
to
a
lot
of
interesting
discoveries
so
leave
that
here.
For
you
all
foreign.
A
As
a
you
know,
data
ownership
of
your
health
data
as
well,
as
maybe
other
things
related
to
Healthcare,
so
another
benefit
of
health
nfts
is
that
tokenized
decentralized
data
can
be
accessed
by
the
patient
anywhere
anytime,
without
making
rounds
of
Health
Facilities
are
yeah
which
do
not
readily
share
detailed
data.
So
yeah
it's
good
to
see
that
you
know
entrepreneur
India
is
has
been.
You
know
interested
in
this.
This
is
an
opinion
expressed
by
subtuck
Bardon.
A
A
Because
I
think
AI
has
been
a
Hot
Topic
in
recent
months
and
I
think
medical
related
AI
is
going
to
be
super
interesting
because
it's
going
to
be
able
to
allow
providers
and
patients
to
communicate
in
like
a
new
way,
I
think
so
good
stuff,
I
think
I
mean
I,
haven't
used
it
myself.
But
if
someone
has
very
curious,
let
us
know.
A
All
right,
these
education
nuggets
here
won't
dive
into
too
deeply,
but
first
one
is
just
vitalik.
Buterins
post
he's
the
founder
of
ethereum
about
stealth,
addresses,
making
potentially
making
it
possible
to
send
people
nfts
or
cryptocurrencies
privately,
inherently
through
ethereum.
This
is
a
theoretical
system
to
be
potentially
proposed
and
put
in
place
in
the
ethereum
core
code,
so
you
can
read
more
about
it
here
to
talk
about
shared
secrets
and
how
how
the
exchange
would
actually
work.
A
You
see
here,
Bob
generates
some
kind
of
address
and
then
Bob
sends
this
address
public
address
to
Alice,
either
directly
or
by
registering
it
on
ens
Alice
does
some
computation
which
generates
another
address,
and
then
Alice
sends
a
transaction
with
transfers.
The
asset
to
that
computated
address,
which
is
at
the
stealth
address,
and
then
Bob
is
able
to
control
and
spend
the
asset.
But
it's
not
publicly
viewed
you
know
they
talk
about.
A
A
Next
year
is
a
correspondence
article
on
nature
magazine,
titled
nft,
for
management
of
Health
Data,
and,
let's
see
what's
here,
it's
quite
a
short
article.
Actually
they
just
talk
about
the
potential
benefits
of
nft
tokenization
in
in
healthcare
are
in
a
healthcare
data
management,
including
data
from
patients,
hospitals,
Insurance
government
bodies,
Pharma
companies
and
research.
Institutes
again,
this
is
you
know,
interesting
and
I
think
reinforces
the
idea
of
using
nfts
in
healthcare.
I.