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Join this design thinking session lead by Hyperledger Premier Member, ConsenSys, to ask your Ethereum questions to experts in the field who spend their time building and using Ethereum everyday. The Ethereum leaders will discuss:
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Learn best practices and technical insights into Hyperledger’s Ethereum projects
“An hour or so, to learn….” is a series, in which Hyperledger members share learnings from their projects and try to answer all the hard questions about the pains of working with DLTs. It is not yet another webinar: participants will be encouraged to take part, come with prepared questions and opinions. Expect live demos and tutorials, stories from the battle field and hopefully some heated discussions. Let’s get out of the zoom fatigue and engage to share experiences and build a stronger community.
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A
So
it's
live.
It's
live
on
youtube,
so
welcome
everyone.
Whoever
is
joining.
I
see
attendees
joining.
This
is
the
correct
place
if
you
are
willing
to
attend
the
session
on
ethereum
and
hyper
ledger.
This
is
what
will
be
happening
in
a
couple
of
minutes
and
yeah.
We
are
just
letting
people
join
taking
some
time.
A
I
will
be
starting
to
share
my
screen
and
once
I
finish
grace,
I
think
you're
controlling
the
slides,
so
you
can
just
take
over
sharing
your
that's
screen.
Okay,
yeah
slowly
getting
people
in
welcome
everyone.
This
will
be
a
session
on
ethereum
and
hyperledger
communities
and
connecting
them
so
we'll
give
people
a
couple
of
minutes
to
join
and
we'll
shortly
be
starting.
A
A
A
A
A
A
And
apologies
for
not
being
an
on
camera,
it's
quite
late,
my
time,
so
I'm
not
wearing
any
makeup.
So
and
that's
my
excuse.
Okay!
Well,
let's
see
here
yeah!
Well,
it's
three
past,
let's
just
start
and
let
people
join
as
as
we
go
so
welcome
everyone.
This
is
your
hyper
ledger
in
depth
an
hour
or
so
with
this
time
the
ethereum
community.
It's
not
really
just
with
consensus
or
just
with
accenture.
A
It's
actually
a
joint
effort
that
I'm
really
excited
to
bring
to
you
hyperledger
in
depth
is
a
series
that
we
launched
with
the
beginning
of
this
year
to
fight
the
zoom
fatigue.
We
really
want
you
to
participate,
ask
questions
and
really
be
active.
We
don't
want
to
just
broadcast
information
to
you.
If
you
wanted
to
broadcast,
you
always
can
listen
to
the
recording.
There's
no
need
for
actually
live
conversation.
A
You
can
scan
the
qr
code
under
your
top
right
and
look
at
it
in
general.
It
tells
you
not
to
share
anything
that
could
be
considered
an
intellectual
property
while
being
on
this
call,
if
you're
sharing
something
assume
that
your
competitors
are
listening
in
this
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
actually
also
live
streamed.
A
A
If
you
feel
like
there
is
some
kind
of
a
very
big
discussion
and
you
don't
really
want
to
jump
in
and
break
the
conversation,
raise
your
hand
and
then
we
will
know
that
you
want
to
speak
up.
Also,
if
you
are
shy
or
your
microsoft
or
anything
else,
you
can
always
use
the
q
a.
I
will
be
observing
the
q,
a
box
to
bring
up
the
questions.
B
B
And
we
can
dive
in
so
martha
did
a
great
job
introducing
the
session.
As
she
said,
this
is
supposed
to
be
highly
collaborative
lots
of
polls.
Lots
of
conversations.
We
did
not
prepare
a
ton
of
content.
So
really
this
should
be
all
about.
You
all
answering
questions
and
asking
us
questions
and
providing
feedback
and
answering
the
polls
and
that's
going
to
kind
of
take
the
direction
of
the
session.
We
don't
have
really
prepared
too
many
prepared
slides.
B
As
I
said
so
again
talking
with
us
chatting
with
those
feedback
polls,
it
should
be
a
lot
of
fun
before
we
dive
into
anything
we'll
introduce
ourselves.
So
I'm
grace
hartley.
I
work
at
consensus.
I'm
a
senior
business
operations
manager,
particularly
for
the
consensus
quorum
group.
I
work
a
lot
in
our
internal
apps
and
partnerships
and
particularly
within
the
consensus
quorum
team.
The
consensus
quorum
team
is
the
one
that
originally
submitted
hyper
ledger
basu
to
hyperledger
back
in
2020
or
20
wow,
2019,
goodness,
that's
crazy.
B
C
Sure
my
name
is
dan
o'farrin.
I
am
a
lead
protocol
engineer
at
consensus
and
I've
been
working
on
hyperledger
best
spacesuit
the
whole
time
I've
been
a
consensus.
Backward
was
called
pantheon,
so
I've
been
working
at
it
for
quite
a
while,
and
I
also
sit
on
the
the
technical
steering
committee
for
for
the
hyperledger
project.
Before
I
worked
at
consensus,
I
spent
some
time
in
google
at
some
time
in
oracle
during
those
times
is
when
I
got
interested
in
blocking
in
bitcoin
and
a
simple
interest
in
graphing.
C
D
B
E
B
Good
so
now
we've
introduced
ourselves
we'll
go
over
our
very
light
or
kind
of
wherever
this
you,
the
audience,
take
us
agenda
a
smart
dimension.
You
know
this
is
a
webinar
on
ethereum
we
have
some
of
the
leading
ethereum
developers
and
experts
here
on
this
panel
to
kind
of
answer.
Your
questions
have,
you
know,
provide
their
experience
and
also
particularly
put
it
in
the
hyperledger
context.
B
At
the
end,
and
as
I
mentioned,
questions
questions
questions
are
encouraged,
but
we
will
start
with
a
poll
to
kind
of
get
a
sense
of
our
audience
and
who
we
have
here
and-
and
you
know
this
will
hopefully
give
us
a
sense
of
you
know
what
you
are
excited
about.
You
know
whether
you
guys
are
more
advanced
or
just
beginning
that
way.
We
can
cater
the
conversation
to
you
all.
So
you
should
see
a
poll
pop
up
on
your
zoom
here
and
please
go
ahead
and
answer
it.
B
F
A
A
B
B
That
is
exciting,
yeah
I'll
have
to
answer
you
guys
can
ask
definitely
the
more
advanced
questions
cool,
so
maybe
team
us
up
with
that
kind
of
frame
in
mind.
We'll
start
with
a
few
kind
of
introductory
questions
getting
the
lay
of
the
land
if
you're
new
to
ethereum,
you
know
some
about
ethereum,
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
kind
of
yeah.
B
D
Yeah
so,
first
and
foremost,
ethereum
is
a
permissionless
public,
smart
contract
platform,
with
a
during
complete
pro
touring,
complete
programming,
language
and
what's
interesting
about
it.
Is
that
if
you
change
a
few
bits
and
pieces,
the
consensus
adds
some
permissioning
and
privacy.
You
can
have
a
really
cool
enterprise,
private
solution
that
uses
the
same
ethereum
virtual
machine
for
execution
of
these
contracts,
and
you
can
read
state
from
the
public
ethereum
mainnet.
D
C
B
E
Practice
is
about
integrating
blockchains
different,
distributed
electric
technologies,
and
we
are
aiming
for
it
to
be
an
enterprise
grade
framework
that
hopefully
simplifies
a
lot
of
the
common
tasks
so
that
you
don't
have
to
reinvent
the
deal
every
time.
You're
building
an
application
that
has
to
deal
with
multiple
different
lectures,
sort.
E
B
C
Baysu
itself
is
what's
called
an
ethereum
client,
it's
the
actual
node
software
that
you
run
to
connect
to
other
nodes
to
form
an
ethereum
network
in
mainnet
right
now,
there's
four
major
nodes:
node
programs
that
run
and
synchronize
on
the
ethereum
main
net
that'd
be
baitsu.
Death,
nethermind
and
open
ethereum
and
open
ethereum
is
what
parity
evolved
into
over
the
past
about
a
year.
C
So
those
are
the
four
clients
that
run
on
mainnet
and
when
it
comes
to
private,
those
are
required
that
you
know
you
just
did
only
one
specific
network
with
one
specific
configuration
or
a
small
set
of
test
nets.
Beitsu
has
some
custom
extensions
in
addition
to
mainnet
compatibility
that
allow
it
to
work
on
private
networks
from
simple
things
like
you
know,
you
can
change
that
to
a
consensus.
Algorithm
called
click
that
does
not
rely
on
group
of
proof
of
work,
but
still
has
issues
with
things
like
probabilistic
finality
to
other
consensus.
C
Algorithms,
such
as
our
version
of
ibfp.
That
provides
finality
for
your
consensus
and
some
other
very
advanced
permissioning.
We
can
restrict
which
nodes
can
connect
as
an
option.
You
can
turn
on
which
nodes
can
do
smart
contracts
with
nodes
can
do
calls
which
nodes
can
validate
so
hyperledger
basically
enables
you
to
run
your
network
as
as
free
and
as
open
or
as
tight
and
locked
down,
as
you
would
need
to
for
your
particular
use
case.
You
can
start
up
your
own
private
networks.
You
can
join
other
people's
networks,
it's
it's
it's!
B
B
What
I
like
to
do
is
call
out
the
hyperledger
ethereum
based
projects
or
projects
that
work
in
ethereum.
We've
talked
about
tactics
down
at
the
bottom:
that's
working
interoperability
with
the
other
hyperledger
projects
and
and
ethereum
we've
talked
about
baysu,
which
is
the
ethereum
client
which
sits
in
the
distributed
ledger
bucket.
We
haven't
talked
about
borrow
yet
dana.
Do
you
want
to
take
a
stab
at
just
giving
a
quick
overview
of
burro.
C
G
C
G
D
B
F
C
C
A
B
I
should
update
this,
so
I
didn't
circle
that
avalon,
because
that
definitely
fits
within
our
bucket.
Here
I
think,
what's
interesting
is
and
then
my
next
question
on
the
side,
which
I
think
I
remember
is
you
know
it's
kind
of
interesting
that
you
know
a
lot
of
the
conversations
are
hypoliger
versus
ethereum
and
you
can
see
kind
of
ethereum's
definitely
already
in
hyperledger
and
has
kind
of
a
very
interesting
perspective
to
bring,
but
I
guess
I'd
love
to
hear
maybe
dano.
B
H
C
From
and
the
enterprise
mentality
that
stuff,
like
cr
rev,
comes
from
enterprises,
a
need
for
these
controlled
databases
and
cyberpunks
have
a
need
to
be
away
from
these
control
and
those
seem
like
contradictory
requirements
on
the
surface.
But
when
you
get
something
like
on
ethereum
together,
both
purposes
can
be
served.
You
know,
ethereum
has
its
decentralized
permission
lists.
At
the
same
time,
it
provides
a
lot
of
the
control
and
the
security
that
you
would
need
from
a
crm
type
solution
now
by
default,
ethereum
doesn't
have
really
good
privacy
solutions.
C
So
there's
other
things
you
put
on
like
you
know
you
can
do
zk
snark
there's
one
thing:
you
can
do
straight
on
main
that
today
or
you
could
create
your
own
private
version
of
a
of
an
ethereum
blockchain
with
some
of
the
the
private
consensus
mechanisms,
so
so
to
step
back
to
the
original
question.
The
role
of
ethereum
in
the
hyperledger
community
is
to
sort
of
merge
what
sometimes
appear
to
be
contradictory
needs
of
different
members
of
the
community
and
show
that
they
can
work
together.
C
So,
at
the
same
time,
we
have
you
know
all
of
these
ledgers.
In
the
letter,
category
can
be
used
all
in
private
network
and
they
work
really
great
in
private
network,
that's
their
their
their
primary.
What
they
were
built
on
a
lot
of
these,
but
vasu
also
shows
that
you
can
work
in
public
networks
and
public
openings.
C
You
can
do
that.
You
can
also
do
it
in
the
permissionless
form.
So
the
role
in
the
ethereum
or
the
project
in
in
hyperledger
is
to
provide
these
bridges
and
to
let
people
go
where
they
need
to
go
with
their
business
and
to
bring
people
in
who
ordinarily
would
not
be
in
a
hyper
ledger
while
the
same
time
helping
everyone
across
the.
B
E
That,
on
top
of
all
that,
you
know,
if,
if
we
end
up
with
silos,
then
mainstream
adoption
will
likely
not
happen
or
will
not
happen
as
well
as
it
should.
So,
I
feel,
like
everyone
in
blockchain,
should
somehow
aim
to
work
together
and
have
some
sort
of
interoperability,
because
you
know
silos,
financial
or
otherwise.
You.
C
E
B
For
sure,
and
with
I
mean
you
know,
all
these
different
projects
have
been
contributed
and
worked
on
now
by
so
many
different
companies.
You
know
some
of
the
leading
companies
in
the
world
in
the
blockchain
space,
if
not
all
of
them.
Maybe
arguably
you
know,
although
that
mindshare,
I
think,
only
bodes
well.
I
think
someone
was
going
to
come
off,
mute,
sorry
and
ask
a
question.
C
C
So
what
other
blockchains
have
done
to
get
around
this
issue
particularly
fabric?
Is
they
run
kind
of
a
quorum
type
situation
with
their
chain
code?
They'll,
ask
multiple
nodes
to
try
and
run
their
tank
boards,
and
you
get
the
same
result
from
enough
of
the
nodes.
Then
they
accept
that
as
the
answer-
and
I
don't
know
the
particulars
of
how
they
deal
with
runaway
chain
codes
and
other
sorts
of
ways
where
it
fails,
but
you
get
you
know
three
out
of
five
four
out
of
five.
C
You
know
nine
out
of
ten
different
nodes,
saying
this
is
what
the
chain
code
results
in
they
accept.
It
is
basically
a
quorum
vote.
So
that's
you
know.
One
way
to
get
consensus
is
everyone
agrees
on
the
results
and
I
think
that's
the
big
way
a
lot
of
people
go
without
with
when
they
don't
use
gas.
Is
they
go
to
the
enough
people
agree
on.
B
Yeah,
no,
it's
a
good
question,
so
there's
kind
of
different
layers
of,
of
course,
of
ethereum.
That's
worth
talking
about
so
there's
ethereum
public
chain.
That
rye
was
talking
about
where
there
are
main
clients
that
run
there.
One
is
basu,
one
is
geth
for
example,
and
then
there's
also
the
permission
layer
so
there's
permission
clients
so
go
quorum
or
quorum
is
jet
only
runs
as
a
fork
of
geth
and
only
runs
in
permission
settings
rather
than
running
on
mainnet.
So
it's
kind
of
a,
I
think.
C
Probably
the
the
work
that's
going
on
with
some
of
the
stuff
like
q,
ibft
is
going
in
in
the
future.
That's
enterprise,
ethereum
alliance,
is
another
group.
That's
not
hyper
ledger
that
was
trying
to
get
some.
That
is,
that
is
getting
some
standards
to
work
between
these
private
ethereum
clients
and
also
you
know
some
have
their
own
software
and
some
work
entirely
on
public
networks
with
with
additional
microservices
put
on
beside
it.
C
C
But
a
consensus
algorithm
with
finality
that
you
can
have
a
plurality
of
clients
on
a
private
network
and
when
it
comes
to
systemic
risk,
getting
multiple
clients
implementing
a
spec
reduces
one
of
the
risks.
I
mean
that's
the
legendary
story
of
what
they
do
on
the
space
shuttle.
They
have
three
control
systems,
two
are
made
by
one
vendor
and
one
is
made
by
another
vendor
from
spec
and
when
they
disagree,
the
humans
have
to
intervene.
B
So
it's
probably
probably
worth
taking
a
step
back
they're
all.
I
know
that
was
a
good
way
to
end
it.
I
shouldn't
jump
in,
but
no,
I
think,
they're
all
ethereum
right.
So
it's
like
when
we
say
ethereum
but
and
basu
and
gokorum
are
ethereum
clients.
They
just
can
do
different
things
right,
so
ethereum
can
so
base.
You
can
run
on
mainnet
and
permission
chains.
Go
quorum
can
only
run
on
permission
chains
just
to
kind
of
clarify
that,
because
I
don't
think
I
did
a
good
job
at
the
beginning.
Does
that
help.
G
Yeah,
I
think
that
that
helps
it's.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
different
pieces
going
on
here
and
what
I
see
is,
is
you
know
kind
of
like
the
earl
you
know
it's
like
the
early
days
of
of
this
type
of
technology.
So
there's
all
these
different
types
of
ways
to
do
it,
and
probably
eventually
a
lot
of
stuff-
is
going
to
go
away
and
get
absorbed
into
other
big
bigger
projects.
That'll
be
kind
of
the
umbrella
over
the
whole
thing.
B
A
B
A
A
Okay
and
question
number
two:
what
is
an
objective
for
you
using
hyperledger's
ethereum
based
projects?
Is
it
worrying
about
using
a
public
blockchain,
for
instance,
with
the
privacy
and
security
issues?
Is
it
a
crypt
because
it's
a
cryptocurrency
so
you're
worried
about
loss
of
funds,
regulatory
and
tax
concerns,
or
maybe
lack
of
knowledge
about
them
or
there's
no
real
blocker,
for
you
just
didn't
get
a
chance
or
nothing.
You
use
it
anyway.
F
Well,
I
think
there's
going
to
there
already
has
been
a
lot
of
efforts
where
regulatory
bodies
are
forming
sandboxes
and
they
actually
want
to
talk
to
people
in
the
blockchain
world,
and
I
think
that
more
of
that
has
to
kind
of
go
mainstream.
I'm
a
little
dismayed
by
some
of
janet
yellen's
comments
last
week
about
cryptocurrency
and
very
concerned
that
it's
primarily
used
for
criminal
activity.
A
Yeah
that
makes
total
sense.
I'm
I'm
based
yeah,
I'm
based
out
of
the
uk
and
actually
over
the
change
of
the
years
the
year
so
moving
to
2021
the
regular
regulations
changed
completely.
So
now
you
can't
trade
on
cryptocurrency
derivatives
and
it's
so
complicated,
and
I
just
don't
understand
it.
Why
would
people
do
that
like
there
are
so
many
opportunities.
F
C
So
yeah,
if
there's
integrations
that
work
through
the
standard,
ethereum
json
rpcs,
that
would
integrate,
but
there's
nothing
specifically
built
into
bay
su
and
I'm
not
familiar
enough
with
the
aries
project
to
know
if
they're
running
it
as
a
layer
2
and
committing
their
dids
to
ethereum
or
what
that
would
look
like.
I
know
it's
an
outgrowth
of
the
indie
project
so
and
I
don't
think
there
is
too
much
integration
between
indian
ethereum.
C
A
Yeah,
I
think
it's
a
good
great
point
of
how
the
integration
happens
and
has
to
happen
on
both
sides
right.
It's
both
on
the
bezu
or
borough
side
and
the
aries
side.
So
I
think
we
need
to
build
some
bridges
and
if
any
of
you,
attendees
or
participants
would
like
to
join
those
efforts,
absolutely
please
please
help
us
building
the
bridges.
G
B
The
second
question
is
interesting,
so,
similarly,
what
is
an
objection
for
using
hyperledger's
ethereum
based
projects?
Nobody
really
has
a
blocker
at
38
percent,
which
is
again
very
exciting,
which
means
that
you
all
have
lots
of
free
time
and
we
can
show
you
how
to
contribute
in
your
good
first
issues
in
a
few
minutes.
What
would
you
say
so
we
kind
of
talked
about
cryptocurrency
and
maybe
like
the
regulatory
concerns
around
ethereum.
B
D
D
B
H
The
bad
is
always
helpful
too.
I
I
can
speak
to
one
that
we
actually
have
worked
on
within
ethereum
and
one
thing
about
public
blockchains
is:
is
you
know
what
they
do?
They
do
extremely
well
and
that's
primarily,
the
transparency
and
anything
on
there
can
is
perceived
as
being
discoverable
by
every
other
person.
That's
on
the
network,
and
that
has
generated
a
lot
of
concern
with
cios
and
ctos
and
csos,
because
I
don't
want
really
to
reveal
anything
about
what
I'm
doing.
H
That's
going
to
be
visible
to
anybody
that
could
be
a
competitor
or
a
rival
or
anyone
that
just
you
know,
probably
wants
to
come
in
and
just
really
disrupt
everything,
and
that's
really
been.
They
want
at
least
that
ability
to
kind
of
you
know
sit
back
and
you
know
kind
of
cloak
what
what
they're
actually
doing,
but
still
have
all
the
other
benefits
of
a
public
blockchain.
H
B
Yeah
mark
thanks
for
sharing
that
that's,
like
that's
great
feedback.
I
think
it's
definitely
been
something
I
think.
Maybe
all
of
us
panelists
have
heard
one
or
two
times
before
and
it's
a
theme,
but
I
think
you're
right
that
it'll
be
interesting
kind
of
to
see
as
performance
improvements
are
made.
Maybe
eth2.
You
know.
I
think
that
story
might
change
with
ethereum.
What.
H
They're
really
busy.
No,
I
was
there
yeah
yeah.
No,
no,
that's
the
project
went
nowhere.
So
it's
you
know
really
a
lot
of
the
elated
latest
advancements
within
ethereum.
As
far
as
you
know,
with
off
chain
and
with
merkel
trees.
You
were
born
out
of
really
that
need
that
you
have
to
have
some
type
of
masking,
or
at
least
some
type
of
they
don't
want
that.
Much
awareness,
that's
generated
by
the
transparency.
C
Right
and
I
think
you're
right
there's
a
lot
of
the
new
things
coming
out
that
are
you're
gonna,
be
able
to
put
like
a
hash
commitment
and
you'll,
be
able
to
bring
a
proof
out
and
prove
it
against
the
ethereum
chain
and
that's
what
a
lot
of
the
layer
two
stuff
is
doing
like
baseline
and
it's
even
getting
deep
into
the
protocol.
There's
something
in
ethereum
called
witnesses
where
you
don't
have
to
have
the
entire
blockchain
to
prove
a
particular
block.
C
H
Another
thing
that
I
commonly
ran
into
is
all
right:
if
I'm
going
to,
basically,
you
know,
put
forth
a
ethereum
based
solution.
Do
I
have
to
set
up
and
maintain
or
set
up
download
and
maintain
a
node
and
I'm
like
yeah
and
that's
another
when
it's
going
to
outstrip
so
much
of
the
resources
within
a
lot
of
cios
have
within
their
current
I.t
or
architectures.
F
B
No,
I
think
it's,
I
think
I
think,
that's
great
feedback.
I
think
it's
interesting
yeah.
I
think
daniel
made
a
great
point
about
kind
of
the
layer,
two
options
and
and
different
performance
or
privacy
improvements.
If
it's
you
know,
privacy
groups,
private
channels,
side
chains,
I
think
that's
kind
of
it
definitely
resonates
with
a
lot
of
work
that
we
do.
At
least
I
wanna
take
a
step
back
if
that's
okay
and
then
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
for
lots
of
questions.
I've
seen
a
couple.
B
Is
anyone
concerned
about
that
and
then
the
other
question
so
before
we
get
to
the
latency
question,
I'm
going
to
pause
on
that
because
we
do
have
a
good
answer
for
that.
The
other
question
is
going
to
be:
is
around
basu
being
an
ethereum
client,
or
does
it
work
with
other
hyperledger
networks,
or
is
it
distributed
ledger?
B
Maybe
taking
just
like
one
step
back
then
I'll
answer
the
question
about
latency,
I
think
so,
when
you're
thinking
about
hyperledger,
I
think
there's
some
confusion
around
for
when
we
say
hyperledger
are
we
only
talking
about
hyperledger
fabric?
Are
we
talking
about
hyperledger
sawtooth
and
in
fact
hyperledger
is
a
greenhouse
of
many
projects.
So
you
can
see.
Kind
of
this
is
the
greenhouse.
We
showed
a
little
earlier.
We
didn't
really
explain
it
just
said.
You
know
here
are
the
ethereum
projects
so
to
clarify
so
in
the
top
layer.
B
Here
there
are
a
bunch
of
different
distributive
ledger
technology
projects
within
hyperledger.
One
is
hyperledger
basu,
which
is
an
ethereum
client.
So
it's
just
a
a
type
of
distributed
ledger.
Another
type
of
dlt
is
fabric,
another
one
is
sawtooth
and
other
ones
listed
here.
So
when
we're
talking
about
hyperledger
we're
actually
talking
about
kind
of
this
greenhouse
of
all
these
different
blockchain
projects,
which
is
pretty
cool,
it's
not
just
one
or
the
other.
B
So
just
wanted
to
take
a
step
back
because
that
wasn't
clear
from
what
we
were
talking
about
earlier.
The
second
question
is
around
latency
when
using
the
ethereum
public
network
and
is
anyone
concerned
with
that
is
how
the
person
worded
it,
but
also,
how
do
we
address
that
in
different
solutions
who
would
like
to
leave
that
dan
o'ry?
What
do
you.
D
D
D
C
And
that's
part
of
the
question
of
whether
you're
going
to
do
a
public
network
or
a
private
network
in
a
private.
The.
What
makes
it
so
crowded
in
the
public
network
is
everyone's
using
it
for
their
own
purposes
and
you
need
to
compete
with
space
and
you
pay
with
that
for
ether.
So
that's
how
they
incentivize
people
to
run
public
nodes
is.
C
There
is
an
actual
creatable
token
that
has
value
in
only
one
chain,
which
is
the
ether
and
people
you
know
created
in
exchanges
and
miners
mine
it
and
that's
how
the
economics
there
in
a
consortium
network
you
know
whoever
is
participating.
It
is
going
to
agree
on
who
runs
the
nodes
and
make
sure
that
they
run
up
themselves.
C
So
the
incentives
there
are
different
in
a
private
versus
a
public
network.
So
on
a
private
network
you
can
get
much
better
latency
times.
You
can
take
your
block
time
down
a
few
seconds.
You
can
put
you
know:
100
million
gas
in
each
block.
If
you
want
you
can
get,
you
know
hundreds
of
tps
per
second
on
an
ethereum
network
with
ethereum
transactions.
H
C
Some
particularly
well
or
architected
solutions
can
get
up
to
ten
thousands
of
ppf
protected
on
layer.
Two,
if
you
do
the
layer,
two
architecture
correctly,
so
the
latency
is
all
about
the
design.
You
can
have
everything
a
horrible
latency
to
awesome
latency,
depending
upon
what
incentives
you
want
to
provide
and
they
all
come
with
trade-offs
at
each
level.
E
Yeah
and
just
to
pile
on
the
latency
topic,
my
personal
opinion
is
that
they
are
technologists
and
they
usually
work
on
improving
stuff.
So
I
fully
expect
that
to
get
better
over
time.
So
if
you
really
want
to
develop
something
that
is
forward-looking,
and
then
you
kind
of
have
to
make
assumptions
about
the
future
and
make
some
bats,
and
one
that
I
would
make
is
that
the
latency
is
going
to
go
down
in
the
future.
B
So
we
only
have
a
few
minutes
left,
so
any
questions
you
have
drop
them
in
the
chat,
we'll
probably
take
a
few
and
then
if
we
need
to
stay
on
we'll
answer
them
at
the
end.
The
first
question
that
we
have
here
is
bro
actively
developed.
There
are
commits
in
its
github
page,
but
it's
wiki
page
says
so
it's
an
incubation
status
with
the
roadmap
from
2019..
C
C
Size,
it
doesn't
mean
whether
or
not
it's
production
ready
and
every
time
they
have
that
discussion.
There
are
people
who
go
and
say
well.
I
have
burrowing
production,
this.
It's
used
in
fabric
nodes
to
run
their
paint
code,
so
yeah,
it's
there's
not
much
fancy
stuff
going
in
it's
pretty
functional
as
it
is.
So
I
think
that's
why
it's
a
little
slower
in
you
know
the
commits
speed
than
some
of
the
other
projects.
B
Yep,
I
know
yes,
we
like
to
clarify
that
because
yeah
just
because
it's
an
incubation
status
does
not
mean
it
can't
be
in
production.
If
there's
one
thing
you
take
away
from
that,
we'll
be
very
excited.
If
that's
it,
there
are
two
more
questions
around
contributing
which
is
really
teaming
up
just
beautifully.
So
it
talks
about
how
what
are
how
do
you
get
started?
One
person
asked
about
basu,
specifically,
so
we'll
jump,
we're
gonna
skip
the
use.
B
C
C
If
you're,
if
you're
a
deeply
experienced
ethereum
developer,
we
want
to
hear
from
you
as
well
there's
a
couple
of
community
places
you
can
go
on.
We
have
a
chat
room
at
chat.hyperledger.org.
We
actually
have
two
one
for
basu
is
for
general
discussion
and
the
one
at
bayesian
contributors.
We
tend
to
limit
to
things
about
things
going
on
with
source
code,
we're
putting
a
release,
we'll
say:
hey,
please
don't
commit
stuff
when
I
need
to
have
a
review
on
a
pr,
sometimes
I'll
put
a
request
out
there.
C
If
there's
questions
about
you
know
what
we're
going
to
do
with
you
know,
are
we
going
to
switch
to
tabs
into
the
spaces?
We're
not,
but
that's
the
sort
of
discussion
we
would
have
there.
So
that's
also
on
chat.
We
also
have
an
email
list
which
has
about
the
same
level
of
email
engagement
as
other
ethereum
projects.
Actually
we're
doing
a
bit
better.
We
get
about
one
email
a
month,
community
just
doesn't
like
email,
it's
it's
weird,
but
another
thing
is
you
can
run
and
execute
baysu.
C
C
Mainnet
is
very
heavily
used
and
takes
a
while
and
good
decent
hardware
to
synchronize,
but
a
network
like
gourley
synchronizes
in
you
know
less
than
an
hour
and
there's
one
called
ethereum
classic.
We
support
one
of
their
tests.
That's
called
mortar
that
one
will
sync
really
quick,
there's
also
hardly
anything
going
on
because
of
why
it
sinks.
So
quick,
but
you
know,
if
you
just
want
to
play
with
that,
it's
pretty
easy
to
get
definitely
on
some
of
those
smaller
ones.
C
D
D
B
C
One
thing
I
forgot
to
mention
about
hyperledger:
all
the
projects
are
apache2
license,
so
that's
a
big
opening
for
a
lot
of
corporate
development.
There's
a
lot
of
corporations
that
won't
allow
customization
of
code
and
of
the
ethereum
clients
that
we
mentioned
today
go
quorum,
yes
and
nethermine
and
open
ethereum.
Those
are
all
gpl,
so
baitsu
is
unique
in
being
apache
licensed,
along
with
cactus.
E
Yeah,
so
I
won't
bore
everyone
with
repeating
everything
repeating
that
then
we
just
said
about
basically
I'll
just
say:
take
all
that
and
replace
the
verb,
basically
with
cactus,
because
it's
all
true
for
us
as
well
and
then
the
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
highlight
is
that
cactus
is
not
yet
production
really.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
aware
of
that,
but
at
the
same
time,
yes,
really,
we
are
trying
to
be
as
welcoming
as
possible
as
well
so
also
happy
to
have
direct
messages
about
any
questions.
Anyone
has.
B
Amazing,
with
that
I
know
we're
just
out
of
time.
We
have
one
final
poll
that
we're
going
to
ask
you
all
to
respond,
so
this
is
just
a
first
session
on
ethereum
in
the
hyperledger
community.
We'd
love
to
hear
more
about
what
you
want
to
see
next
time.
Maybe
if
you
liked
the
session,
if
you
didn't
you
know
all
feedback
is
welcome,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
you
know
this
is
interesting
for
you
all.
B
B
A
If
you
didn't
like
it,
we
all
know
if
anyone
has
better
ideas
and
we
would
welcome
any
other
ideas.
Please
do
email
me
grace
I'll
pop
my
email
into
the
chat,
please
feel
free
to
communicate
with
us.
We
really
want
to
make
this
as
useful
to
you
as
possible.
If
it's,
you
know,
hardcore
hardcore,
hands-on.
F
A
If
it's
high-level,
biz
dev
it
doesn't
matter,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
bringing
value
to
you
and
again,
thank
you
grace
and
the
whole
team
for
an
amazing
session.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
thought
that
was
really
interesting.
Currently
we
actually
seems
like
we'll
have
to
do
all
four
sessions
because
it's
literally
25
each
so
we
might
need
more
than
one,
which
is
great,
and
we
hope
that
you
can
just
share
the
news
with
your
friends
and
colleagues,
and
hopefully
other
people
will
join
as
well.
A
A
This
is
the
first
of
five
well,
thank
you,
everyone,
just
a
quick,
quick
recap
of
what
we
will
be
offering.
This
is
part
of
a
series
that
we
do
and
we
do
have
more
coming
up.
Two
sessions
that
are
definitely
happening
are
on
february
3rd,
with
intellect
eu
on
deployment,
hyperology
fabric
networks,
and
then
everyone
will
be
talking
about
their
ssi
and
covet
again.
It
was
a
dialogue
session.
A
It
is
not
a
broadcast
session
and
definitely
as
soon
as
we
talk
or
get
back
together
and
talk
about
the
ethereum
sessions,
we
will
plan
some
and
you
can
find
everything
on
hyperledger.org
events
and
please
do
get
involved
here-
are
some
links,
some
qr
codes.
You
can
scan
them,
you
can
publish
them
and
thank
you
for
watching.
Thank
you
for
dialing
in
and
I'll
talk
to
you
soon
stay
safe.